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Do you pay attention when buying your fresh produce? For example i was recently out shopping and asked to get some black grapes. I noticed these came from Brazil (distance approximately 5500 miles) whereas the red grapes came from Spain (distance approximately 1500 miles).
It's not that i have anything against Brazilians but i bought the red grapes instead purely for this reason. What about you? |
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No. Maybe I should more. If I like the product I’ll buy it.
I guess unless there’s a collective action and it becomes the norm a small number of “ethical” buyers won’t change much. |
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"Do you pay attention when buying your fresh produce? For example i was recently out shopping and asked to get some black grapes. I noticed these came from Brazil (distance approximately 5500 miles) whereas the red grapes came from Spain (distance approximately 1500 miles).
It's not that i have anything against Brazilians but i bought the red grapes instead purely for this reason. What about you?"
Yeah, but now the black grapes have come over for nothing and it’s a wasted journey. |
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"Do you pay attention when buying your fresh produce? For example i was recently out shopping and asked to get some black grapes. I noticed these came from Brazil (distance approximately 5500 miles) whereas the red grapes came from Spain (distance approximately 1500 miles).
It's not that i have anything against Brazilians but i bought the red grapes instead purely for this reason. What about you?
Yeah, but now the black grapes have come over for nothing and it’s a wasted journey. "
Well it isn’t really, as I bought them.  |
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"Do you pay attention when buying your fresh produce? For example i was recently out shopping and asked to get some black grapes. I noticed these came from Brazil (distance approximately 5500 miles) whereas the red grapes came from Spain (distance approximately 1500 miles).
It's not that i have anything against Brazilians but i bought the red grapes instead purely for this reason. What about you?
Yeah, but now the black grapes have come over for nothing and it’s a wasted journey. "
I get that but if everyone stops buying them there'll be no demand and supply will stop. |
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As a Brazilian I take no offence 
As for food miles.
I'm quite lucky, in the area I live we have lots of farm shops & regular farm & hobbiest markets selling local produce.
I do shop in supermarkets but I try to buy as much local as I can.
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Yes i do..
We are always being urged to shop local but the butchers on our high street gets his fruit and veg delivered from Manchester...
I prefer to shop at the co op where at least it says the potatoes and leeks are from farms in wales which is at least the right country |
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There are other factors to consider too. Food that's transported long distances loses much of it's nutritional value and repuires more careful packaging adding to the burden that goes into landfill.
Also it often comes from areas that are politically charged or have dubious human rights and environmental issues.
How do i know the grapes from Brazil weren't grown on land that used to be rainforest. I certainly never buy anything that comes from Israel. |
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"Do you pay attention when buying your fresh produce? For example i was recently out shopping and asked to get some black grapes. I noticed these came from Brazil (distance approximately 5500 miles) whereas the red grapes came from Spain (distance approximately 1500 miles).
It's not that i have anything against Brazilians but i bought the red grapes instead purely for this reason. What about you?"
You've got to be careful when it comes to food miles, just because one food comes from a longer distance doesn't mean the same food closer to home is more environmentally friendly, it might have had to have being grown in heated greenhouses etc.  |
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"Do you pay attention when buying your fresh produce? For example i was recently out shopping and asked to get some black grapes. I noticed these came from Brazil (distance approximately 5500 miles) whereas the red grapes came from Spain (distance approximately 1500 miles).
It's not that i have anything against Brazilians but i bought the red grapes instead purely for this reason. What about you?
You've got to be careful when it comes to food miles, just because one food comes from a longer distance doesn't mean the same food closer to home is more environmentally friendly, it might have had to have being grown in heated greenhouses etc. "
This is also true. I saw a documentary recently about how immigrant 'slave' labour was used to grow Spanish tomatoes and the complete disregard the growers had for the environment.
You can't cover all the bases but i believe it's a good starting point. It should be up to the retailers to do the checks but to be honest i just don't trust them to be thorough. |
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"Do you pay attention when buying your fresh produce? For example i was recently out shopping and asked to get some black grapes. I noticed these came from Brazil (distance approximately 5500 miles) whereas the red grapes came from Spain (distance approximately 1500 miles).
It's not that i have anything against Brazilians but i bought the red grapes instead purely for this reason. What about you?
You've got to be careful when it comes to food miles, just because one food comes from a longer distance doesn't mean the same food closer to home is more environmentally friendly, it might have had to have being grown in heated greenhouses etc.
This is also true. I saw a documentary recently about how immigrant 'slave' labour was used to grow Spanish tomatoes and the complete disregard the growers had for the environment.
You can't cover all the bases but i believe it's a good starting point. It should be up to the retailers to do the checks but to be honest i just don't trust them to be thorough."
To be honest I'm all for it but far too many times in the name of "environmentalism" the baby gets thrown out with the water.
Didn't a relatively recent study shows that the average family hatchback was far more environmentally friendly over it's average lifetime, including its manufacture, than a Toyota Prius!  |
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"Do you pay attention when buying your fresh produce? For example i was recently out shopping and asked to get some black grapes. I noticed these came from Brazil (distance approximately 5500 miles) whereas the red grapes came from Spain (distance approximately 1500 miles).
It's not that i have anything against Brazilians but i bought the red grapes instead purely for this reason. What about you?
You've got to be careful when it comes to food miles, just because one food comes from a longer distance doesn't mean the same food closer to home is more environmentally friendly, it might have had to have being grown in heated greenhouses etc.
This is also true. I saw a documentary recently about how immigrant 'slave' labour was used to grow Spanish tomatoes and the complete disregard the growers had for the environment.
You can't cover all the bases but i believe it's a good starting point. It should be up to the retailers to do the checks but to be honest i just don't trust them to be thorough.
To be honest I'm all for it but far too many times in the name of "environmentalism" the baby gets thrown out with the water.
Didn't a relatively recent study shows that the average family hatchback was far more environmentally friendly over it's average lifetime, including its manufacture, than a Toyota Prius! "
I heard that too. When you take into account the environmental cost of building a new car and of scrapping the old one then yes, i expect so.
But a government drive to encourage us to keep hold of our old vehicles would see the collapse of the car industry. |
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