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By *tella Heels OP TV/TS
over a year ago
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Is the moon hollow?
These are interesting facts:-
The Moon is 1/4 the size of planet earth, yet apparently earth is 81 times heavier?
Given the earth is only 4 times greater than the moon, it’s questionable how the earth managed to attract and hold the moon in orbit of lucky earth.
The moon is apparently much much older than the moon.
The earths only moon is much larger as a ratio from earth to moon than any other planet in our solar system!
When we ejected the lunar landing boosters back to the moon, the impending collision was measured by seismic equipment nasa left on the lunar landscape, I gonged like a bell for 3 hours!!
Although the moons surface has many craters and some are vast,yet none are deep, they are all shallow??
So some scientists have proposed that the earth is a manufactured body put where it sits for some reason, now if I was placing an object close to earth to observe it, I would make sure all mytelescopes were always pointing to the earth,as it happens the moon is in a tidal orbit of earth which means we only ever see the one face of the moon.. coincidence??
One other very strange coincidence, the moon is positioned in the one place due to scales ofthesun and the precise accurate size of the moon (1/400th in size and distance to the sun the sun is 400 times further away than the moon) this is why we get complete eclipse of the sun.
Ancient history also talks about a time before the moon!! So did it get put there at some point? |
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You are confusing Mass, Weight and Density.
They are entirely different things on different astral bodies.
You are also confusing the difference between a hot planet (Earth) which will have a much greater density (Molten Iron core) than the lighter density (basically -276 degree cold Pumice) of an icy satellite like the Moon.
The Moon having no atmosphere means gravity and pressure are massively different than on Earth. It is like comparing a Musk Ox to a lump of chalk. The Musk Ox running around a patch of Tundra in Northern Canada and the lump of chalk being held in zero gravity in a science lab.
Mass and Weight are two very different things. Confuse them at you leisure but you'll never manage to marry up real science.
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By *ild_oatsMan
over a year ago
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"You are confusing Mass, Weight and Density.
They are entirely different things on different astral bodies.
You are also confusing the difference between a hot planet (Earth) which will have a much greater density (Molten Iron core) than the lighter density (basically -276 degree cold Pumice) of an icy satellite like the Moon.
The Moon having no atmosphere means gravity and pressure are massively different than on Earth. It is like comparing a Musk Ox to a lump of chalk. The Musk Ox running around a patch of Tundra in Northern Canada and the lump of chalk being held in zero gravity in a science lab.
Mass and Weight are two very different things. Confuse them at you leisure but you'll never manage to marry up real science.
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By *ild_oatsMan
over a year ago
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"Moon apparently is much older than the earth sorry
Just reading all about this, interesting how so many people have come to same conclusion"
This is not proven as of yet as there is still ongoing investigation into the formation of the moon.
There are several competing hypotheses
Co-formation hypothesis
Capture hypothesis
Synestia hypothesis (where the moon formed first prior to the earth)
Collision hypothesis
And even one where the Earth stole the moon from Venus.
We don’t actually know how our planet has a moon but it is so similar in composition to Earth. So likely to be formed from the same material the Earth was formed from....
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Actually, the moon was part of the result of a planetary object coliding with the earth, as was discovered from the Apollo missions by analysis of rick samples brought back. |
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"The moon's diameter is roughly 1/4 of that of the earth"
so you could line up 4 of the moon in front of the Earth, you could fit the moon inside of the Earth 50 times. |
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By *ddibleMan
over a year ago
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"The moon's diameter is roughly 1/4 of that of the earth
so you could line up 4 of the moon in front of the Earth, you could fit the moon inside of the Earth 50 times. "
That made my head hurt
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The moon's diameter is roughly 1/4 of that of the earth
so you could line up 4 of the moon in front of the Earth, you could fit the moon inside of the Earth 50 times.
That made my head hurt
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"Is the moon hollow?
These are interesting facts:-
The Moon is 1/4 the size of planet earth, yet apparently earth is 81 times heavier?
Given the earth is only 4 times greater than the moon, it’s questionable how the earth managed to attract and hold the moon in orbit of lucky earth.
The moon is apparently much much older than the moon.
The earths only moon is much larger as a ratio from earth to moon than any other planet in our solar system!
When we ejected the lunar landing boosters back to the moon, the impending collision was measured by seismic equipment nasa left on the lunar landscape, I gonged like a bell for 3 hours!!
Although the moons surface has many craters and some are vast,yet none are deep, they are all shallow??
So some scientists have proposed that the earth is a manufactured body put where it sits for some reason, now if I was placing an object close to earth to observe it, I would make sure all mytelescopes were always pointing to the earth,as it happens the moon is in a tidal orbit of earth which means we only ever see the one face of the moon.. coincidence??
One other very strange coincidence, the moon is positioned in the one place due to scales ofthesun and the precise accurate size of the moon (1/400th in size and distance to the sun the sun is 400 times further away than the moon) this is why we get complete eclipse of the sun.
Ancient history also talks about a time before the moon!! So did it get put there at some point?"
the moon's diameter is roughly 1/4 that of the earth. That means the volume of earth is 4x4x4 (64) times that of the. moon. the 20% or so difference in mass is accounted for my the molten metal core that earth has.
Attraction (gravity) is a function of mass, so in this respect earth is 80 times greater. |
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By *ddibleMan
over a year ago
Exeter Bristol Salisbury |
"The moon's diameter is roughly 1/4 of that of the earth
so you could line up 4 of the moon in front of the Earth, you could fit the moon inside of the Earth 50 times.
That made my head hurt
Would you like me to come and rub it better? "
Yes please,
Would you tuck me in and tell me a story? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"The moon's diameter is roughly 1/4 of that of the earth
so you could line up 4 of the moon in front of the Earth, you could fit the moon inside of the Earth 50 times.
That made my head hurt
Would you like me to come and rub it better?
Yes please,
Would you tuck me in and tell me a story?"
Erm, once upon a time there was a big forest, and in the middle of the forest, there lived some trousers. Called...Dave. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Actually, the moon was part of the result of a planetary object coliding with the earth, as was discovered from the Apollo missions by analysis of rick samples brought back."
Did they get Rick’s permission to analyse his samples?
What was Rick thinking, taking a dump on the moon anyway? 
And who the hell is Rick anyway?  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Is the moon hollow?
These are interesting facts:-
The Moon is 1/4 the size of planet earth, yet apparently earth is 81 times heavier?
Given the earth is only 4 times greater than the moon, it’s questionable how the earth managed to attract and hold the moon in orbit of lucky earth.
The moon is apparently much much older than the moon.
The earths only moon is much larger as a ratio from earth to moon than any other planet in our solar system!
When we ejected the lunar landing boosters back to the moon, the impending collision was measured by seismic equipment nasa left on the lunar landscape, I gonged like a bell for 3 hours!!
Although the moons surface has many craters and some are vast,yet none are deep, they are all shallow??
So some scientists have proposed that the earth is a manufactured body put where it sits for some reason, now if I was placing an object close to earth to observe it, I would make sure all mytelescopes were always pointing to the earth,as it happens the moon is in a tidal orbit of earth which means we only ever see the one face of the moon.. coincidence??
One other very strange coincidence, the moon is positioned in the one place due to scales ofthesun and the precise accurate size of the moon (1/400th in size and distance to the sun the sun is 400 times further away than the moon) this is why we get complete eclipse of the sun.
Ancient history also talks about a time before the moon!! So did it get put there at some point?"
The moon is a broken off piece of the earth's crust, therefore thee much less dense than the core outer layer.
As far as I know that has been the explanation for a huge amount of time and has never sensibly been disputed. |
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By *ild_oatsMan
over a year ago
the land of saints & sinners |
"Is the moon hollow?
These are interesting facts:-
The Moon is 1/4 the size of planet earth, yet apparently earth is 81 times heavier?
Given the earth is only 4 times greater than the moon, it’s questionable how the earth managed to attract and hold the moon in orbit of lucky earth.
The moon is apparently much much older than the moon.
The earths only moon is much larger as a ratio from earth to moon than any other planet in our solar system!
When we ejected the lunar landing boosters back to the moon, the impending collision was measured by seismic equipment nasa left on the lunar landscape, I gonged like a bell for 3 hours!!
Although the moons surface has many craters and some are vast,yet none are deep, they are all shallow??
So some scientists have proposed that the earth is a manufactured body put where it sits for some reason, now if I was placing an object close to earth to observe it, I would make sure all mytelescopes were always pointing to the earth,as it happens the moon is in a tidal orbit of earth which means we only ever see the one face of the moon.. coincidence??
One other very strange coincidence, the moon is positioned in the one place due to scales ofthesun and the precise accurate size of the moon (1/400th in size and distance to the sun the sun is 400 times further away than the moon) this is why we get complete eclipse of the sun.
Ancient history also talks about a time before the moon!! So did it get put there at some point?
The moon is a broken off piece of the earth's crust, therefore thee much less dense than the core outer layer.
As far as I know that has been the explanation for a huge amount of time and has never sensibly been disputed. "
That used to be the accepted explanation and it probably is the most likely as it fits most of the questions about the origins of the moon as does the co-formation hypothesis...
But both have many questions unanswered.... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Is the moon hollow?
These are interesting facts:-
The Moon is 1/4 the size of planet earth, yet apparently earth is 81 times heavier?
Given the earth is only 4 times greater than the moon, it’s questionable how the earth managed to attract and hold the moon in orbit of lucky earth.
The moon is apparently much much older than the moon.
The earths only moon is much larger as a ratio from earth to moon than any other planet in our solar system!
When we ejected the lunar landing boosters back to the moon, the impending collision was measured by seismic equipment nasa left on the lunar landscape, I gonged like a bell for 3 hours!!
Although the moons surface has many craters and some are vast,yet none are deep, they are all shallow??
So some scientists have proposed that the earth is a manufactured body put where it sits for some reason, now if I was placing an object close to earth to observe it, I would make sure all mytelescopes were always pointing to the earth,as it happens the moon is in a tidal orbit of earth which means we only ever see the one face of the moon.. coincidence??
One other very strange coincidence, the moon is positioned in the one place due to scales ofthesun and the precise accurate size of the moon (1/400th in size and distance to the sun the sun is 400 times further away than the moon) this is why we get complete eclipse of the sun.
Ancient history also talks about a time before the moon!! So did it get put there at some point?"
What a load of shi-ite!  |
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By *tella Heels OP TV/TS
over a year ago
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"Actually, the moon was part of the result of a planetary object coliding with the earth, as was discovered from the Apollo missions by analysis of rick samples brought back."
erm no it’s not read this up
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By *tella Heels OP TV/TS
over a year ago
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"Is the moon hollow?
These are interesting facts:-
The Moon is 1/4 the size of planet earth, yet apparently earth is 81 times heavier?
Given the earth is only 4 times greater than the moon, it’s questionable how the earth managed to attract and hold the moon in orbit of lucky earth.
The moon is apparently much much older than the moon.
The earths only moon is much larger as a ratio from earth to moon than any other planet in our solar system!
When we ejected the lunar landing boosters back to the moon, the impending collision was measured by seismic equipment nasa left on the lunar landscape, I gonged like a bell for 3 hours!!
Although the moons surface has many craters and some are vast,yet none are deep, they are all shallow??
So some scientists have proposed that the earth is a manufactured body put where it sits for some reason, now if I was placing an object close to earth to observe it, I would make sure all mytelescopes were always pointing to the earth,as it happens the moon is in a tidal orbit of earth which means we only ever see the one face of the moon.. coincidence??
One other very strange coincidence, the moon is positioned in the one place due to scales ofthesun and the precise accurate size of the moon (1/400th in size and distance to the sun the sun is 400 times further away than the moon) this is why we get complete eclipse of the sun.
Ancient history also talks about a time before the moon!! So did it get put there at some point?
What a load of shi-ite! "
Have you ever read a book? Seems unlikely!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Actually, the moon was part of the result of a planetary object coliding with the earth, as was discovered from the Apollo missions by analysis of rick samples brought back.
Did they get Rick’s permission to analyse his samples?
What was Rick thinking, taking a dump on the moon anyway?
And who the hell is Rick anyway? "
He's never gonna give you up, never gonna let you down... |
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I thought isotope studies of moon Rock had backed up the collision or conformation ideas, rather than capture.
Plenty of big collision craters, just smoothed out by successive smaller ones. The ring like a bell would be due to it being solid as it hasn't enough internal heat to stay semi liquid like much of our planet |
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"You are confusing Mass, Weight and Density.
They are entirely different things on different astral bodies.
You are also confusing the difference between a hot planet (Earth) which will have a much greater density (Molten Iron core) than the lighter density (basically -276 degree cold Pumice) of an icy satellite like the Moon.
The Moon having no atmosphere means gravity and pressure are massively different than on Earth. It is like comparing a Musk Ox to a lump of chalk. The Musk Ox running around a patch of Tundra in Northern Canada and the lump of chalk being held in zero gravity in a science lab.
Mass and Weight are two very different things. Confuse them at you leisure but you'll never manage to marry up real science.
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Having an atmosphere has no effect on gavity or pressure..... |
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The moon has been around for longer than humans who have talked about it or passed on rumours about it.
The current matching of the sizes of the sun and moon, giving us a total eclipse, is just a temporary fleeting coincidence - the moon is getting more distant by the hour, so they will alter in their relative size in future.
The past orbit of the moon is traceable, it's not an unknown entity positioned by some unknown entity. Start by assessing the scientific data that we have, rather than focusing on the facets of the cosmos that may appear to confound logo and reason. |
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There's also the two times NASA crashed objects on the moon to record it on the seismometers and said it rang like a bell. Yes some interesting YouTube vids about the moon. |
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Some of the facts are greatly simplified.
For example yes the moon is about 1/4 of the diameter of the earth, but only about 2% of its volume... so is that really 1/4 of its size.
Also, according to NASSA the earth is 81 times heavier.
Cal |
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By *tella Heels OP TV/TS
over a year ago
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"The moon has been around for longer than humans who have talked about it or passed on rumours about it.
The current matching of the sizes of the sun and moon, giving us a total eclipse, is just a temporary fleeting coincidence - the moon is getting more distant by the hour, so they will alter in their relative size in future.
The past orbit of the moon is traceable, it's not an unknown entity positioned by some unknown entity. Start by assessing the scientific data that we have, rather than focusing on the facets of the cosmos that may appear to confound logo and reason."
Funny, that’s not what Aristotle wrote, he wrote about Arcadia and their history proscelenes
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"You are confusing Mass, Weight and Density.
They are entirely different things on different astral bodies.
You are also confusing the difference between a hot planet (Earth) which will have a much greater density (Molten Iron core) than the lighter density (basically -276 degree cold Pumice) of an icy satellite like the Moon.
The Moon having no atmosphere means gravity and pressure are massively different than on Earth. It is like comparing a Musk Ox to a lump of chalk. The Musk Ox running around a patch of Tundra in Northern Canada and the lump of chalk being held in zero gravity in a science lab.
Mass and Weight are two very different things. Confuse them at you leisure but you'll never manage to marry up real science.
Having an atmosphere has no effect on gavity or pressure....."
Having no atmosphere has an enormous difference on atmospheric pressure. The difference between having some and HAVING NONE.
Sorry to state the bleeding obvious. |
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"Is the moon hollow?
These are interesting facts:-
The Moon is 1/4 the size of planet earth, yet apparently earth is 81 times heavier?
Given the earth is only 4 times greater than the moon, it’s questionable how the earth managed to attract and hold the moon in orbit of lucky earth.
The moon is apparently much much older than the moon.
The earths only moon is much larger as a ratio from earth to moon than any other planet in our solar system!
When we ejected the lunar landing boosters back to the moon, the impending collision was measured by seismic equipment nasa left on the lunar landscape, I gonged like a bell for 3 hours!!
Although the moons surface has many craters and some are vast,yet none are deep, they are all shallow??
So some scientists have proposed that the earth is a manufactured body put where it sits for some reason, now if I was placing an object close to earth to observe it, I would make sure all mytelescopes were always pointing to the earth,as it happens the moon is in a tidal orbit of earth which means we only ever see the one face of the moon.. coincidence??
One other very strange coincidence, the moon is positioned in the one place due to scales ofthesun and the precise accurate size of the moon (1/400th in size and distance to the sun the sun is 400 times further away than the moon) this is why we get complete eclipse of the sun.
Ancient history also talks about a time before the moon!! So did it get put there at some point?
What a load of shi-ite!
Have you ever read a book? Seems unlikely!!"
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"There's also the two times NASA crashed objects on the moon to record it on the seismometers and said it rang like a bell. Yes some interesting YouTube vids about the moon."
Can you provide a quote from NASA and back this up. Not a YT video from some nut. An actual quote from NASA with a proper link and evidence. |
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"The moon has been around for longer than humans who have talked about it or passed on rumours about it.
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ALL matter in the Universe has been around a lot longer than humans have xisted whether talking or rumouring.
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By *tella Heels OP TV/TS
over a year ago
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"There's also the two times NASA crashed objects on the moon to record it on the seismometers and said it rang like a bell. Yes some interesting YouTube vids about the moon.
Can you provide a quote from NASA and back this up. Not a YT video from some nut. An actual quote from NASA with a proper link and evidence."
it is true if you read about a Apollo missions |
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"The moon's diameter is roughly 1/4 of that of the earth, so its mass would be 1/64 of that of the earth if they had the same density.
I.e. (1/4)^3 = 1/64"
And the one to clarify this for the patently mystified.
volume = 4/3 pr3 (that is volume equals 4 over 3 times pi R cubed).
I am scared to post a link in case I get suspended again... but if you do a search for maths open ref sphere volume there is a lovely adjustable model which shows the incredible exponential volume - and thus Mass - increases for tiny fractions of an increase in Radius of a sphere.
That should solve the bafflement for the Confused. It's just Maths. |
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