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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Noticed a lot of people (more women) being quite rude and abrupt on here through statuses, messages and forums. Remember, yet because you get a lot of attention doesn't mean you get to talk to those you are not interested in like dirt. Be respectful and nice or say nothing. We all know that women get hammered with messages on here but that doesn't give you the right to say what you want to people. Most would not say what they say face to face through fear of looking like a piece of s**t so why do it online?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Because there’s a key board and a whole lot of distance between you.

I wouldn’t let it bother you though, just brush it off and carry on

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By *iss SJWoman  over a year ago

Hull

I tend to respond to people in the same way they approach me. Apart from the really nasty aggressive disgusting ones. I just ignore or report and block those.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I tend to respond to people in the same way they approach me. Apart from the really nasty aggressive disgusting ones. I just ignore or report and block those. "

Good advice

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Because there’s a key board and a whole lot of distance between you.

I wouldn’t let it bother you though, just brush it off and carry on "

I don't let it bother me. More trying to make people realise that there is no acceptable justification of being a dick

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"I tend to respond to people in the same way they approach me. Apart from the really nasty aggressive disgusting ones. I just ignore or report and block those. "

Treat others how you would like to be treated?... always goes well for those with good morals

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By *ensualbicockMan  over a year ago

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Take no notice op , ignore them . They're probably quiet as a mouse in real life so just laugh at it

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

It's site rule to not reply if they not interested which is there right but it could come across as Bad manners when trying to make friends as for people sending nasty messages to people even name calling which happens is uncalled for because everyone has a right to be here in the end.

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By *r.BlondeMan  over a year ago

Chester/Wirral


"Noticed a lot of people (more women) being quite rude and abrupt on here through statuses, messages and forums. Remember, yet because you get a lot of attention doesn't mean you get to talk to those you are not interested in like dirt. Be respectful and nice or say nothing. We all know that women get hammered with messages on here but that doesn't give you the right to say what you want to people. Most would not say what they say face to face through fear of looking like a piece of s**t so why do it online?"
Here here OP some let this site go to their heads, I actually find the attractive 1's are humble and nice.

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By *oelDorianMan  over a year ago

vanaheim

yeah its the anonymity of being behind a keyboard and not seeing the person face to face where you can gage their reaction. I agree with you OP there is no need for it either be polite about it or if you can't just say nothing. I've had it where people told me the exact reasons why I should come off which is not fair or necessary and to a lot of people really harsh. That's just my two cents on the matter.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Yet another whingy thread from a man..oh joy

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

There is a type of snobbery involved, by some (not all) couples. They are the ones who get the most attention and some of them think it gives them the right to look down their noses at single men. At the end of the day it’s all bravado. Most of the people they do meet are only doing so because “every hole is a goal.” Even if the gem is not exactly attractive to them...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"There is a type of snobbery involved, by some (not all) couples. They are the ones who get the most attention and some of them think it gives them the right to look down their noses at single men. At the end of the day it’s all bravado. Most of the people they do meet are only doing so because “every hole is a goal.” Even if the gem is not exactly attractive to them..."

*fem

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Theres already a woh is me thread going

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Theres already a woh is me thread going"

Is there? Have to go look cos no ones loving us! Bloody swinging site?!?! More like Fanny Facebook!

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Yet another whingy thread from a man..oh joy "

These are the sorts I'm talking about

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By *oelDorianMan  over a year ago

vanaheim


"Theres already a woh is me thread going"

wow plugging your own thread very classy

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Because there’s a key board and a whole lot of distance between you.

I wouldn’t let it bother you though, just brush it off and carry on "

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By *VineMan  over a year ago

The right place

Lip up fatty!

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

I think maybe some are missing the point. I'm saying there's no justification for saying horrible things. I've had none directed at me of late but I have noticed the way some talk about others in both statuses and on their profile. You may be able to hide behind a computer and say what you want but would you do that face to face? And if you are thinking I would say the same to their face... are you proud of the fact that you are as much of a piece of s**t in person as online?

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By *emini ManMan  over a year ago

There and to the left a bit


"Yet another whingy thread from a man..oh joy

These are the sorts I'm talking about"

I think you'll find KB was being ironic

There's no call for rudeness regardless of the gender of the person being rude - I see it all the time here from single guys, single women, and couples in fact the only category that generally don't seem to do rudeness are TV/TSs - if I see someone being rude, I either ignore or challenge them if challenging is called for.

I do also think sometimes the nature of text can lead to people's intent being misconstrued as I suspect you did above in response to KB

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Lip up fatty! "

It's chin up

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By *iss SJWoman  over a year ago

Hull


"Lip up fatty! "

Ne-Ne Na-Na Na-Na Nu-Nu

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By *emini ManMan  over a year ago

There and to the left a bit


"Lip up fatty!

Ne-Ne Na-Na Na-Na Nu-Nu "

Just A Feeling here but Lorraine may be the worst especially when she's been on the Special Brew

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By *VineMan  over a year ago

The right place


"Lip up fatty!

It's chin up"

I wasn’t being rude. I thought this thread might be about the 80’s ska band.

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By *VineMan  over a year ago

The right place

It is now!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

This comes up loads and I know I'm not a man so kinda looking on it as an outsider but I think it's also partly how people interpret things.

Like I can quite often be a bit "cheeky". That's my intention for what I write and that's how I think it comes across but someone who already has preconceived ideas about the women on the site might read my comment as rude or offensive. They don't pick up on the sarcasm.

I know that's not the case and some people are just rude but it's not exclusively females and couples.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I am totally with you op.

I had conversation with few women from here, forumites and non forumites users, conversations that they have instigated first, that just stopped out of the blue.

It made me wondering if in real life they leave a conversation in the middle of it without saying anything.

Now, mind you, I must have said something that put them off or bored them, which is very likely.

Yet then again those same women messaged me back doing exactly the same so go figure it out

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Theres already a woh is me thread going

wow plugging your own thread very classy"

Its very classy but i didnt mean mine i meant the one titled that ya goose

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By *iss SJWoman  over a year ago

Hull


"Lip up fatty!

Ne-Ne Na-Na Na-Na Nu-Nu

Just A Feeling here but Lorraine may be the worst especially when she's been on the Special Brew "

I love you, yes I do cos I know that you love a me too

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Yet another whingy thread from a man..oh joy

These are the sorts I'm talking about

I think you'll find KB was being ironic

There's no call for rudeness regardless of the gender of the person being rude - I see it all the time here from single guys, single women, and couples in fact the only category that generally don't seem to do rudeness are TV/TSs - if I see someone being rude, I either ignore or challenge them if challenging is called for.

I do also think sometimes the nature of text can lead to people's intent being misconstrued as I suspect you did above in response to KB "

I don't think she was I think she was being very literal.

The gender of the person has nothing to do this either. We cannot justify saying hurtful things to each other. I've read tv/ts being just as harsh as anyone else on here

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By *oan of DArcCouple  over a year ago

Glasgow


"Yet another whingy thread from a man..oh joy

These are the sorts I'm talking about"

...but you're behaving in the same way, don't you get it?!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I tend to respond to people in the same way they approach me. Apart from the really nasty aggressive disgusting ones. I just ignore or report and block those. "
agreed

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Oh no it isn't.

Oops panto season caught me out...

OP, yes it may be bad manners in your view, but it probably doesn't indicate a bad person or even a keyboard warrior. It is often just the same as an expletive when stubbing your toe on the step.

Fact is, it has zero impact on you or anyone, just let it drift on by.

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By *emini ManMan  over a year ago

There and to the left a bit


"Lip up fatty!

Ne-Ne Na-Na Na-Na Nu-Nu

Just A Feeling here but Lorraine may be the worst especially when she's been on the Special Brew

I love you, yes I do cos I know that you love a me too "

Oh you Can Can

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By *ryst In IsoldeWoman  over a year ago

your imagination

I don't get inundated with mail OP, I've good filters and use them wisely. But that doesn't mean that I should still take abuse from someone who does contact me in a disrespectful manner either, or won't get snippy or abrupt with someone who repeatedly asks to meet having already said no several times. I'm neither a Saint nor a martyr... Are you saying we should be politely grateful for anything?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" More like Fanny Facebook! "

Wow!! Where do I find that to join?

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By *emini ManMan  over a year ago

There and to the left a bit


"Yet another whingy thread from a man..oh joy

These are the sorts I'm talking about

I think you'll find KB was being ironic

There's no call for rudeness regardless of the gender of the person being rude - I see it all the time here from single guys, single women, and couples in fact the only category that generally don't seem to do rudeness are TV/TSs - if I see someone being rude, I either ignore or challenge them if challenging is called for.

I do also think sometimes the nature of text can lead to people's intent being misconstrued as I suspect you did above in response to KB

I don't think she was I think she was being very literal.

The gender of the person has nothing to do this either. We cannot justify saying hurtful things to each other. I've read tv/ts being just as harsh as anyone else on here"

Well there you've just proved my point - two totally different perspectives on the same thing.

And exactly!! The gender of the person has nothing to do with this - yet your OP specifically singles out women!!

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By *amissCouple  over a year ago

chelmsford

You get this in all walks of life and on all types of forums, it will never change!

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By *abs..Woman  over a year ago

..

Manners cost nothing my lovely Mum used to say.

Nothing is gained from being rude.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Oh no it isn't.

Oops panto season caught me out...

OP, yes it may be bad manners in your view, but it probably doesn't indicate a bad person or even a keyboard warrior. It is often just the same as an expletive when stubbing your toe on the step.

Fact is, it has zero impact on you or anyone, just let it drift on by. "

I didn't say it makes them a bad person but it certainly makes them look like one. people only have what you give them. Just because you're trying to get laid or sidt out the bad ones doesn't mean you get to be a dick. I personally would rather call out these people and try to make them understand that it is not acceptable how they talk to others no matter what excuses they have.

I'm sorry but turning the blind eye just means that you are oking what's happening. I'd rather let them know that I view their actions as bad and try to get them to realise they're hurting others. Even if it doesn't get me any action

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I suppose its the website equivalent of chucking a drink at somebody.

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By *inkerbell67Woman  over a year ago

Clacton on sea essex

Ive had rude messages from men and women ,(im not into women) some are quite nasty, manners and respect go a long way ,but obviously not on here ..

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"You get this in all walks of life and on all types of forums, it will never change!"

That make it ok? Or does it mean we should just accept it?

Quick hypothetical... racist on the bus spewing hatred everywhere do you, challenge what is being said? Or just ignore it because there's loadsa racists and there has always been

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By *VineMan  over a year ago

The right place

[Removed by poster at 05/11/18 11:56:38]

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By *VineMan  over a year ago

The right place

Rumi the Sufi mystic said

‘Before you speak, let your words pass through three gates:

Is it true?

Is it necessary?

Is it kind?

(I might add another- is it funny?)

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

I don't know about the rest but I find kind, warm, tolerant, friendly women very very very sexy! also makes me trust them and puts me at ease

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By *VineMan  over a year ago

The right place


"I don't know about the rest but I find kind, warm, tolerant, friendly women very very very sexy! also makes me trust them and puts me at ease"

I completely agree - kindness is sexy

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Rumi the Sufi mystic said

‘Before you speak, let your words pass through three gates:

Is it true?

Is it necessary?

Is it kind?

(I might add another- is it funny?)"

All my gates are broke.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

OP you are right we should all be polite to each other.. but I think your tone will get peoples back up.

You have singled out women and suggested that they are entitled because of the attention they recieve.

Your point will get lost and you will come across as bitter and a little rude yourself

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By *emini ManMan  over a year ago

There and to the left a bit


"You get this in all walks of life and on all types of forums, it will never change!

That make it ok? Or does it mean we should just accept it?

Quick hypothetical... racist on the bus spewing hatred everywhere do you, challenge what is being said? Or just ignore it because there's loadsa racists and there has always been"

As with everything you make a call based on the circumstances - it's not always necessary to challenge everything and everyone, sometimes challenging them is not worth the effort, sometimes it would place your safety at risk and sometimes it's absolutely worth challenging opposing views.

It's a case of picking and choosing battles though and most of the time on here, it's best to ignore and move on - but like I say it depends on the circumstance. Am I going to challenge every status that I perceive to be "rude", of course not and I bet my bottom dollar you don't either

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By *amissCouple  over a year ago

chelmsford


"You get this in all walks of life and on all types of forums, it will never change!

That make it ok? Or does it mean we should just accept it?

Quick hypothetical... racist on the bus spewing hatred everywhere do you, challenge what is being said? Or just ignore it because there's loadsa racists and there has always been"

I didn't say it was ok, I said it is unlikely to change, no I probably wouldn't get involved ' on the bus' unless it was a vulnerable person. I'm sure a lot of us have been subjected to some kind of abusive behaviour, I have, but I wouldn't expect others to become involved, unless it became physical

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By *amissCouple  over a year ago

chelmsford

The same on here, I wouldn't challenge other people's bad behaviour, unless it was directed at me, or one of my friends, there are more important things going on in my life, than be concerned about a few rude people, who I'm unlikely to have any contact with

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The same on here, I wouldn't challenge other people's bad behaviour, unless it was directed at me, or one of my friends, there are more important things going on in my life, than be concerned about a few rude people, who I'm unlikely to have any contact with "

And what do you gain if you do challenge them? Probably nothing.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Rumi the Sufi mystic said

‘Before you speak, let your words pass through three gates:

Is it true?

Is it necessary?

Is it kind?

(I might add another- is it funny?)"

Too many gates on fab are unhinged

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I'm glad buster got another appreance on the forums

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By *ensualbicockMan  over a year ago

liverpool wavertree picton clock


"I'm glad buster got another appreance on the forums "

I've just bust a bloodvessel laughing at that

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By *amissCouple  over a year ago

chelmsford


"The same on here, I wouldn't challenge other people's bad behaviour, unless it was directed at me, or one of my friends, there are more important things going on in my life, than be concerned about a few rude people, who I'm unlikely to have any contact with

And what do you gain if you do challenge them? Probably nothing. "

Absolutely nothing, waste of time trying. You will always get rude people, I just ignore them

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"OP you are right we should all be polite to each other.. but I think your tone will get peoples back up.

You have singled out women and suggested that they are entitled because of the attention they recieve.

Your point will get lost and you will come across as bitter and a little rude yourself"

I've singled out women because they are the only profiles I look at and therefore have been exposed to. As I said previously no one has had a dig at me, more that I notice a lot of profiles with horrible things on them.

I'll be honest and say someone will always get their back up on here no matter what you say. If you see this as an attack on women or that I am bitter then that is your choice. I find tone a hard one to communicate online but this is more a dog at those justifying being horrible when there should be none

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By *amissCouple  over a year ago

chelmsford


"Rumi the Sufi mystic said

‘Before you speak, let your words pass through three gates:

Is it true?

Is it necessary?

Is it kind?

(I might add another- is it funny?)

Too many gates on fab are unhinged"

Haha!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yet another whingy thread from a man..oh joy

These are the sorts I'm talking about"

Im usually quite friendly on the forums but for some reason threads like this really grind my gears..

You aren't doing yourself any favours by calling out people with bad manners..

Just ignore those that p*** you off..I usually do

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By *tonMessCouple  over a year ago

Slough Windsor ish

I read the negative, abrupt, rude, antagonistic comments and statuses and feel nothing but pity for the person.

Reap what you sow.

What people say and do is their Karma, how you react and respond is yours.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"You get this in all walks of life and on all types of forums, it will never change!

That make it ok? Or does it mean we should just accept it?

Quick hypothetical... racist on the bus spewing hatred everywhere do you, challenge what is being said? Or just ignore it because there's loadsa racists and there has always been

As with everything you make a call based on the circumstances - it's not always necessary to challenge everything and everyone, sometimes challenging them is not worth the effort, sometimes it would place your safety at risk and sometimes it's absolutely worth challenging opposing views.

It's a case of picking and choosing battles though and most of the time on here, it's best to ignore and move on - but like I say it depends on the circumstance. Am I going to challenge every status that I perceive to be "rude", of course not and I bet my bottom dollar you don't either "

No it's not. If I had to sit there and deliberate with myself whether something is morally wrong enough or not for to act then I would feel like a dick. If you see something morally wrong and you don't think it's worth 'the effort' to challenge it then you my friend are a coward.

I always stand up for what I think is morally right otherwise I feel like a hypocrite.

The benefits sometime aren't there for us to see straight away but all it takes is one child to witness you challenging racism or immoral behaviour and they learn that this should not be accepted in society

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By *emini ManMan  over a year ago

There and to the left a bit


"OP you are right we should all be polite to each other.. but I think your tone will get peoples back up.

You have singled out women and suggested that they are entitled because of the attention they recieve.

Your point will get lost and you will come across as bitter and a little rude yourself

I've singled out women because they are the only profiles I look at and therefore have been exposed to. As I said previously no one has had a dig at me, more that I notice a lot of profiles with horrible things on them.

I'll be honest and say someone will always get their back up on here no matter what you say. If you see this as an attack on women or that I am bitter then that is your choice. I find tone a hard one to communicate online but this is more a dog at those justifying being horrible when there should be none "

You say you're only exposed to women's profiles and that is why you singled them out - yet you reference the forums in your OP as a source of rudeness - do you not read men's, couple's and TV/TS's posts then?

You also say you find tone hard to communicate - so is it possible that some or this 'rudeness' is either you misinterpreting tone or the person conveying it being equally challenged in commnicting it?

I think we all agree that overt rudeness is uncalled for and shouldn't be tolerated in any walk of life but some of the things you reference are open to interpretation too

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Yet another whingy thread from a man..oh joy

These are the sorts I'm talking about

Im usually quite friendly on the forums but for some reason threads like this really grind my gears..

You aren't doing yourself any favours by calling out people with bad manners..

Just ignore those that p*** you off..I usually do "

I can't see why someone trying to stop others spreading hatred would anger you but ok...

Don't agree with turning a blind eye. Just makes things worse

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By *amissCouple  over a year ago

chelmsford

...And I think we can all see that we all have different reactions to different things, we see or hear. No one way is right or wrong, it's your own personal choice, nobody else's

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"OP you are right we should all be polite to each other.. but I think your tone will get peoples back up.

You have singled out women and suggested that they are entitled because of the attention they recieve.

Your point will get lost and you will come across as bitter and a little rude yourself

I've singled out women because they are the only profiles I look at and therefore have been exposed to. As I said previously no one has had a dig at me, more that I notice a lot of profiles with horrible things on them.

I'll be honest and say someone will always get their back up on here no matter what you say. If you see this as an attack on women or that I am bitter then that is your choice. I find tone a hard one to communicate online but this is more a dog at those justifying being horrible when there should be none "

I didnt see it as an attack on anyone, but then I dont take what people write online as seriously as some clearly do

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By *bonynivoryCouple  over a year ago

market harborough


"Yet another whingy thread from a man..oh joy

These are the sorts I'm talking about

Im usually quite friendly on the forums but for some reason threads like this really grind my gears..

You aren't doing yourself any favours by calling out people with bad manners..

Just ignore those that p*** you off..I usually do

I can't see why someone trying to stop others spreading hatred would anger you but ok...

Don't agree with turning a blind eye. Just makes things worse "

I'm a bit confused how someone being rude has now escalated to spreading hatred?

Mrs

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By *oney to the beeWoman  over a year ago

Manchester


"I read the negative, abrupt, rude, antagonistic comments and statuses and feel nothing but pity for the person.

Reap what you sow.

What people say and do is their Karma, how you react and respond is yours."

Negativity just prompts the same in return its sad some people think they can tell others what to do.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Noticed a lot of people (more women) being quite rude and abrupt on here through statuses, messages and forums. Remember, yet because you get a lot of attention doesn't mean you get to talk to those you are not interested in like dirt. Be respectful and nice or say nothing. We all know that women get hammered with messages on here but that doesn't give you the right to say what you want to people. Most would not say what they say face to face through fear of looking like a piece of s**t so why do it online?"

Hardly just women is it? Men say things and post statuses too. It's people in general not one sided. Both can be rude.

I got told I was a fat cunt yesterday who was fucking delusional with my list of demands on profile..... soooo swings and roundabouts

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Noticed a lot of people (more women) being quite rude and abrupt on here through statuses, messages and forums. Remember, yet because you get a lot of attention doesn't mean you get to talk to those you are not interested in like dirt. Be respectful and nice or say nothing. We all know that women get hammered with messages on here but that doesn't give you the right to say what you want to people. Most would not say what they say face to face through fear of looking like a piece of s**t so why do it online?

Hardly just women is it? Men say things and post statuses too. It's people in general not one sided. Both can be rude.

I got told I was a fat cunt yesterday who was fucking delusional with my list of demands on profile..... soooo swings and roundabouts"

A fat cunt? I hope you reported that!!

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By *bonynivoryCouple  over a year ago

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"Noticed a lot of people (more women) being quite rude and abrupt on here through statuses, messages and forums. Remember, yet because you get a lot of attention doesn't mean you get to talk to those you are not interested in like dirt. Be respectful and nice or say nothing. We all know that women get hammered with messages on here but that doesn't give you the right to say what you want to people. Most would not say what they say face to face through fear of looking like a piece of s**t so why do it online?

Hardly just women is it? Men say things and post statuses too. It's people in general not one sided. Both can be rude.

I got told I was a fat cunt yesterday who was fucking delusional with my list of demands on profile..... soooo swings and roundabouts"

I love your profile, especially the warning at the end

Mrs

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By *andare63Man  over a year ago

oldham

People are only rude in these sort of mediums for a couple of reasons .

Either you haven’t quite mastered the concept of treating people as you find them OR . Their life is that shit and chaotic with little or no light shining that they use the anonymity this affords them , to use anyone and everyone as a whipping boy by venting their pathetic spleens .

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Noticed a lot of people (more women) being quite rude and abrupt on here through statuses, messages and forums. Remember, yet because you get a lot of attention doesn't mean you get to talk to those you are not interested in like dirt. Be respectful and nice or say nothing. We all know that women get hammered with messages on here but that doesn't give you the right to say what you want to people. Most would not say what they say face to face through fear of looking like a piece of s**t so why do it online?

Hardly just women is it? Men say things and post statuses too. It's people in general not one sided. Both can be rude.

I got told I was a fat cunt yesterday who was fucking delusional with my list of demands on profile..... soooo swings and roundabouts

A fat cunt? I hope you reported that!!"

Was a bit shocked as was an out of blue mesagae so just blocked him.

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By *oan of DArcCouple  over a year ago

Glasgow


"OP you are right we should all be polite to each other.. but I think your tone will get peoples back up.

You have singled out women and suggested that they are entitled because of the attention they recieve.

Your point will get lost and you will come across as bitter and a little rude yourself"

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By *emini ManMan  over a year ago

There and to the left a bit


"You get this in all walks of life and on all types of forums, it will never change!

That make it ok? Or does it mean we should just accept it?

Quick hypothetical... racist on the bus spewing hatred everywhere do you, challenge what is being said? Or just ignore it because there's loadsa racists and there has always been

As with everything you make a call based on the circumstances - it's not always necessary to challenge everything and everyone, sometimes challenging them is not worth the effort, sometimes it would place your safety at risk and sometimes it's absolutely worth challenging opposing views.

It's a case of picking and choosing battles though and most of the time on here, it's best to ignore and move on - but like I say it depends on the circumstance. Am I going to challenge every status that I perceive to be "rude", of course not and I bet my bottom dollar you don't either

No it's not. If I had to sit there and deliberate with myself whether something is morally wrong enough or not for to act then I would feel like a dick. If you see something morally wrong and you don't think it's worth 'the effort' to challenge it then you my friend are a coward.

I always stand up for what I think is morally right otherwise I feel like a hypocrite.

The benefits sometime aren't there for us to see straight away but all it takes is one child to witness you challenging racism or immoral behaviour and they learn that this should not be accepted in society "

You've totally misinterpreted what I was saying and there's a huge difference between something that is morally wrong and something you 'perceive' to be rude on a website - to take the situation you describe if someone was being overtly racist on a bus would I challenge it? Of course I would - if someone was being overtly racist on a bus full of EDL supporters, would I directly challenge it? Possibly not, it would depend on the circumstance and how safe I felt to do so, and that's not being a coward at all - it's about being safe and I suggest you're a liar if you say you'd do otherwise.

But to bring it back into context - just because someone posts a rude status on here doesn't mean it's worth challenging - what difference would it make? None at all probably!! I ask again all these rude statuses and profiles you see and refer to - do you send each and every one of them a message pointing out why you think they're wrong? No? Thought not!!

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By *rincess peachWoman  over a year ago

shits creek

I'd say the same thing face to face as I will online.

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By *ensualbicockMan  over a year ago

liverpool wavertree picton clock


"I'd say the same thing face to face as I will online. "
same

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By *oan of DArcCouple  over a year ago

Glasgow


"People are only rude in these sort of mediums for a couple of reasons .

Either you haven’t quite mastered the concept of treating people as you find them OR . Their life is that shit and chaotic with little or no light shining that they use the anonymity this affords them , to use anyone and everyone as a whipping boy by venting their pathetic spleens . "

..or they're fed up of receiving messages from people who haven't paid them the courtesy of reading their profile to see what they're looking for before messaging them!

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"OP you are right we should all be polite to each other.. but I think your tone will get peoples back up.

You have singled out women and suggested that they are entitled because of the attention they recieve.

Your point will get lost and you will come across as bitter and a little rude yourself

I've singled out women because they are the only profiles I look at and therefore have been exposed to. As I said previously no one has had a dig at me, more that I notice a lot of profiles with horrible things on them.

I'll be honest and say someone will always get their back up on here no matter what you say. If you see this as an attack on women or that I am bitter then that is your choice. I find tone a hard one to communicate online but this is more a dog at those justifying being horrible when there should be none

You say you're only exposed to women's profiles and that is why you singled them out - yet you reference the forums in your OP as a source of rudeness - do you not read men's, couple's and TV/TS's posts then?

You also say you find tone hard to communicate - so is it possible that some or this 'rudeness' is either you misinterpreting tone or the person conveying it being equally challenged in commnicting it?

I think we all agree that overt rudeness is uncalled for and shouldn't be tolerated in any walk of life but some of the things you reference are open to interpretation too "

Ahh m a quote miner... the original post has nothing to do with the gender of people posting in the thread. Why would it? I'm not classifying one genders opinion above others so that has no relevance. I don't read their statuses and profiles because I am not looking for either. It has nothing to do with discrimination.

I'm not talking about how a comment had been interpreted or communicated. I'm talking about comments directly aimed at someone or something.

You can always try and challenge me based on what has followed the original post but the forum subject still stays the same

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By *andare63Man  over a year ago

oldham


"People are only rude in these sort of mediums for a couple of reasons .

Either you haven’t quite mastered the concept of treating people as you find them OR . Their life is that shit and chaotic with little or no light shining that they use the anonymity this affords them , to use anyone and everyone as a whipping boy by venting their pathetic spleens .

..or they're fed up of receiving messages from people who haven't paid them the courtesy of reading their profile to see what they're looking for before messaging them!"

Absolutely.

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By *oan of DArcCouple  over a year ago

Glasgow


"You get this in all walks of life and on all types of forums, it will never change!

That make it ok? Or does it mean we should just accept it?

Quick hypothetical... racist on the bus spewing hatred everywhere do you, challenge what is being said? Or just ignore it because there's loadsa racists and there has always been

As with everything you make a call based on the circumstances - it's not always necessary to challenge everything and everyone, sometimes challenging them is not worth the effort, sometimes it would place your safety at risk and sometimes it's absolutely worth challenging opposing views.

It's a case of picking and choosing battles though and most of the time on here, it's best to ignore and move on - but like I say it depends on the circumstance. Am I going to challenge every status that I perceive to be "rude", of course not and I bet my bottom dollar you don't either

No it's not. If I had to sit there and deliberate with myself whether something is morally wrong enough or not for to act then I would feel like a dick. If you see something morally wrong and you don't think it's worth 'the effort' to challenge it then you my friend are a coward.

I always stand up for what I think is morally right otherwise I feel like a hypocrite.

The benefits sometime aren't there for us to see straight away but all it takes is one child to witness you challenging racism or immoral behaviour and they learn that this should not be accepted in society "

From challenging rude statuses to immoral behaviour? I think you're in the wrong place!

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"You get this in all walks of life and on all types of forums, it will never change!

That make it ok? Or does it mean we should just accept it?

Quick hypothetical... racist on the bus spewing hatred everywhere do you, challenge what is being said? Or just ignore it because there's loadsa racists and there has always been

As with everything you make a call based on the circumstances - it's not always necessary to challenge everything and everyone, sometimes challenging them is not worth the effort, sometimes it would place your safety at risk and sometimes it's absolutely worth challenging opposing views.

It's a case of picking and choosing battles though and most of the time on here, it's best to ignore and move on - but like I say it depends on the circumstance. Am I going to challenge every status that I perceive to be "rude", of course not and I bet my bottom dollar you don't either

No it's not. If I had to sit there and deliberate with myself whether something is morally wrong enough or not for to act then I would feel like a dick. If you see something morally wrong and you don't think it's worth 'the effort' to challenge it then you my friend are a coward.

I always stand up for what I think is morally right otherwise I feel like a hypocrite.

The benefits sometime aren't there for us to see straight away but all it takes is one child to witness you challenging racism or immoral behaviour and they learn that this should not be accepted in society

You've totally misinterpreted what I was saying and there's a huge difference between something that is morally wrong and something you 'perceive' to be rude on a website - to take the situation you describe if someone was being overtly racist on a bus would I challenge it? Of course I would - if someone was being overtly racist on a bus full of EDL supporters, would I directly challenge it? Possibly not, it would depend on the circumstance and how safe I felt to do so, and that's not being a coward at all - it's about being safe and I suggest you're a liar if you say you'd do otherwise.

But to bring it back into context - just because someone posts a rude status on here doesn't mean it's worth challenging - what difference would it make? None at all probably!! I ask again all these rude statuses and profiles you see and refer to - do you send each and every one of them a message pointing out why you think they're wrong? No? Thought not!! "

This discussion is filling up with presumptions. What if there was a bus full of racists and you weren't their skin tone and had a child that's not with you? Still gonna be a coward then?

The way I see it is if you are scared to stick up for what's right because of fear of getting hurt then you are a coward. I learnt this the hard way but now I will never stand by and let others do things I view as morally wrong. What about if Martin Luther king thought like you? I had a dream but I thought I'd keep it to myself as it was safer.

To presume you know me and how I would act in a situation is a little rediculous. One thing for sure though most black and mixed race people I know are a lot less likely to stand by and let intolerance happen around them because they have been subjected to so much of it themselves

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"You get this in all walks of life and on all types of forums, it will never change!

That make it ok? Or does it mean we should just accept it?

Quick hypothetical... racist on the bus spewing hatred everywhere do you, challenge what is being said? Or just ignore it because there's loadsa racists and there has always been

As with everything you make a call based on the circumstances - it's not always necessary to challenge everything and everyone, sometimes challenging them is not worth the effort, sometimes it would place your safety at risk and sometimes it's absolutely worth challenging opposing views.

It's a case of picking and choosing battles though and most of the time on here, it's best to ignore and move on - but like I say it depends on the circumstance. Am I going to challenge every status that I perceive to be "rude", of course not and I bet my bottom dollar you don't either

No it's not. If I had to sit there and deliberate with myself whether something is morally wrong enough or not for to act then I would feel like a dick. If you see something morally wrong and you don't think it's worth 'the effort' to challenge it then you my friend are a coward.

I always stand up for what I think is morally right otherwise I feel like a hypocrite.

The benefits sometime aren't there for us to see straight away but all it takes is one child to witness you challenging racism or immoral behaviour and they learn that this should not be accepted in society

You've totally misinterpreted what I was saying and there's a huge difference between something that is morally wrong and something you 'perceive' to be rude on a website - to take the situation you describe if someone was being overtly racist on a bus would I challenge it? Of course I would - if someone was being overtly racist on a bus full of EDL supporters, would I directly challenge it? Possibly not, it would depend on the circumstance and how safe I felt to do so, and that's not being a coward at all - it's about being safe and I suggest you're a liar if you say you'd do otherwise.

But to bring it back into context - just because someone posts a rude status on here doesn't mean it's worth challenging - what difference would it make? None at all probably!! I ask again all these rude statuses and profiles you see and refer to - do you send each and every one of them a message pointing out why you think they're wrong? No? Thought not!!

This discussion is filling up with presumptions. What if there was a bus full of racists and you weren't their skin tone and had a child that's not with you? Still gonna be a coward then?

The way I see it is if you are scared to stick up for what's right because of fear of getting hurt then you are a coward. I learnt this the hard way but now I will never stand by and let others do things I view as morally wrong. What about if Martin Luther king thought like you? I had a dream but I thought I'd keep it to myself as it was safer.

To presume you know me and how I would act in a situation is a little rediculous. One thing for sure though most black and mixed race people I know are a lot less likely to stand by and let intolerance happen around them because they have been subjected to so much of it themselves"

People have the right to put what they want on their profile if you don't like ignore or report and let admin deem if it breaks the rules or not.

People have the right to put what they want in their status if you don't like ignore or report and let admin deem if it breaks the rules or not.

People have the right to post what they want on the forums if you don't like ignore or report and let admin deem if it breaks the rules or not.

Telling others what to do is the job of a dictator you are not a dictator are you?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Can't complain I suppose.

Some who thought I was deliberately nasty on the forum have privately exchanged messages with me and found the opposite.

I will admit that unless you know or are sure about someone you may take things the wrong way, I've done and sure you have. Being nasty, aggressive or just down right rude i have no time and that's the reason I blocked all men because sadly they are the worst for it, even towards other men

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yet another whingy thread from a man..oh joy

These are the sorts I'm talking about

Im usually quite friendly on the forums but for some reason threads like this really grind my gears..

You aren't doing yourself any favours by calling out people with bad manners..

Just ignore those that p*** you off..I usually do

I can't see why someone trying to stop others spreading hatred would anger you but ok...

Don't agree with turning a blind eye. Just makes things worse "

im ok i dont need defending thanks

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By *bonynivoryCouple  over a year ago

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"You get this in all walks of life and on all types of forums, it will never change!

That make it ok? Or does it mean we should just accept it?

Quick hypothetical... racist on the bus spewing hatred everywhere do you, challenge what is being said? Or just ignore it because there's loadsa racists and there has always been

As with everything you make a call based on the circumstances - it's not always necessary to challenge everything and everyone, sometimes challenging them is not worth the effort, sometimes it would place your safety at risk and sometimes it's absolutely worth challenging opposing views.

It's a case of picking and choosing battles though and most of the time on here, it's best to ignore and move on - but like I say it depends on the circumstance. Am I going to challenge every status that I perceive to be "rude", of course not and I bet my bottom dollar you don't either

No it's not. If I had to sit there and deliberate with myself whether something is morally wrong enough or not for to act then I would feel like a dick. If you see something morally wrong and you don't think it's worth 'the effort' to challenge it then you my friend are a coward.

I always stand up for what I think is morally right otherwise I feel like a hypocrite.

The benefits sometime aren't there for us to see straight away but all it takes is one child to witness you challenging racism or immoral behaviour and they learn that this should not be accepted in society

You've totally misinterpreted what I was saying and there's a huge difference between something that is morally wrong and something you 'perceive' to be rude on a website - to take the situation you describe if someone was being overtly racist on a bus would I challenge it? Of course I would - if someone was being overtly racist on a bus full of EDL supporters, would I directly challenge it? Possibly not, it would depend on the circumstance and how safe I felt to do so, and that's not being a coward at all - it's about being safe and I suggest you're a liar if you say you'd do otherwise.

But to bring it back into context - just because someone posts a rude status on here doesn't mean it's worth challenging - what difference would it make? None at all probably!! I ask again all these rude statuses and profiles you see and refer to - do you send each and every one of them a message pointing out why you think they're wrong? No? Thought not!!

This discussion is filling up with presumptions. What if there was a bus full of racists and you weren't their skin tone and had a child that's not with you? Still gonna be a coward then?

The way I see it is if you are scared to stick up for what's right because of fear of getting hurt then you are a coward. I learnt this the hard way but now I will never stand by and let others do things I view as morally wrong. What about if Martin Luther king thought like you? I had a dream but I thought I'd keep it to myself as it was safer.

To presume you know me and how I would act in a situation is a little rediculous. One thing for sure though most black and mixed race people I know are a lot less likely to stand by and let intolerance happen around them because they have been subjected to so much of it themselves"

You say he is being presumptuous but so are you.......

I understand what he is saying. As a black person I will stand up to intolerance. But if it puts my life in danger, what would be the point of leaving my hypothetical child without a parent for a battle I knew I could not win?

You feel that's being a coward, that's absolutely fine, you're entitled your opinion. But in the same way you have your opinion, others are entitled to have theirs.

Mrs

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

If a dictatorship makes everyone be nice to each other then.... only kidding.

Again I think the point has been missed like in all forums. I'm not challenging freedom of speech. We can All say whatever we want... hence my post. I just wanted to draw attention to how you look objectively when you are indescrimintely throwing shitty things out there. And this is not a dig at women. I love you girls! So much kinder and warmer then men if I generalise. Why it's shocking to see how rude and abrupt some of you are because of the messages you've received. Surely the actions of a person in these scenarios defines who they are: some, patient and tolerant, others, rude and arrogant?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Sorry you lost me there when you were comparing yourself to Martin Luther King...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yet another whingy thread from a man..oh joy

These are the sorts I'm talking about

Im usually quite friendly on the forums but for some reason threads like this really grind my gears..

You aren't doing yourself any favours by calling out people with bad manners..

Just ignore those that p*** you off..I usually do

I can't see why someone trying to stop others spreading hatred would anger you but ok...

Don't agree with turning a blind eye. Just makes things worse "

Who mentioned hatred? Oh you did, just now...

Moving the goalposts again are you OP? I've noticed from past posts of yours that you're quite adept at that

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"If a dictatorship makes everyone be nice to each other then.... only kidding.

Again I think the point has been missed like in all forums. I'm not challenging freedom of speech. We can All say whatever we want... hence my post. I just wanted to draw attention to how you look objectively when you are indescrimintely throwing shitty things out there. And this is not a dig at women. I love you girls! So much kinder and warmer then men if I generalise. Why it's shocking to see how rude and abrupt some of you are because of the messages you've received. Surely the actions of a person in these scenarios defines who they are: some, patient and tolerant, others, rude and arrogant?"

But you are challenging freedom of speech thats what your original post clearly does.

Life is simple if you don't like someone due to profile,status and forum posts block ignore report and move on.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"You get this in all walks of life and on all types of forums, it will never change!

That make it ok? Or does it mean we should just accept it?

Quick hypothetical... racist on the bus spewing hatred everywhere do you, challenge what is being said? Or just ignore it because there's loadsa racists and there has always been

As with everything you make a call based on the circumstances - it's not always necessary to challenge everything and everyone, sometimes challenging them is not worth the effort, sometimes it would place your safety at risk and sometimes it's absolutely worth challenging opposing views.

It's a case of picking and choosing battles though and most of the time on here, it's best to ignore and move on - but like I say it depends on the circumstance. Am I going to challenge every status that I perceive to be "rude", of course not and I bet my bottom dollar you don't either

No it's not. If I had to sit there and deliberate with myself whether something is morally wrong enough or not for to act then I would feel like a dick. If you see something morally wrong and you don't think it's worth 'the effort' to challenge it then you my friend are a coward.

I always stand up for what I think is morally right otherwise I feel like a hypocrite.

The benefits sometime aren't there for us to see straight away but all it takes is one child to witness you challenging racism or immoral behaviour and they learn that this should not be accepted in society

You've totally misinterpreted what I was saying and there's a huge difference between something that is morally wrong and something you 'perceive' to be rude on a website - to take the situation you describe if someone was being overtly racist on a bus would I challenge it? Of course I would - if someone was being overtly racist on a bus full of EDL supporters, would I directly challenge it? Possibly not, it would depend on the circumstance and how safe I felt to do so, and that's not being a coward at all - it's about being safe and I suggest you're a liar if you say you'd do otherwise.

But to bring it back into context - just because someone posts a rude status on here doesn't mean it's worth challenging - what difference would it make? None at all probably!! I ask again all these rude statuses and profiles you see and refer to - do you send each and every one of them a message pointing out why you think they're wrong? No? Thought not!!

This discussion is filling up with presumptions. What if there was a bus full of racists and you weren't their skin tone and had a child that's not with you? Still gonna be a coward then?

The way I see it is if you are scared to stick up for what's right because of fear of getting hurt then you are a coward. I learnt this the hard way but now I will never stand by and let others do things I view as morally wrong. What about if Martin Luther king thought like you? I had a dream but I thought I'd keep it to myself as it was safer.

To presume you know me and how I would act in a situation is a little rediculous. One thing for sure though most black and mixed race people I know are a lot less likely to stand by and let intolerance happen around them because they have been subjected to so much of it themselves

You say he is being presumptuous but so are you.......

I understand what he is saying. As a black person I will stand up to intolerance. But if it puts my life in danger, what would be the point of leaving my hypothetical child without a parent for a battle I knew I could not win?

You feel that's being a coward, that's absolutely fine, you're entitled your opinion. But in the same way you have your opinion, others are entitled to have theirs.

Mrs"

Who said it's a battle you could not win? Would these people kill you if you stuck up for what is right? Horrible as it sounds but a lot of key figures in black history have had horrible injustices happen to them in order for them to act. Maybe that's the child with you.

I'll say this one more time: if what stops you from acting is your own personal safety then that's up to you but I view it as cowardice. There's 1000s that will sit there next to you and do nothing and make no difference but to me that doesn't make it right. I'd rather stick up for what I think is right and run the risk in order for change. Yes it will probably always stay the same but that doesn't mean I'm willing to give up in what I think is right

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Yet another whingy thread from a man..oh joy

These are the sorts I'm talking about

Im usually quite friendly on the forums but for some reason threads like this really grind my gears..

You aren't doing yourself any favours by calling out people with bad manners..

Just ignore those that p*** you off..I usually do

I can't see why someone trying to stop others spreading hatred would anger you but ok...

Don't agree with turning a blind eye. Just makes things worse

Who mentioned hatred? Oh you did, just now...

Moving the goalposts again are you OP? I've noticed from past posts of yours that you're quite adept at that "

Feel free to attack my previous actions as I am someone who is hopefully learning from them.

I mentioned hatred because there isn't much love communicated in the messages I'm talking about. I don't see how this constitutes in moving goalposts because this is what the original post was about

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By *bonynivoryCouple  over a year ago

market harborough


"You get this in all walks of life and on all types of forums, it will never change!

That make it ok? Or does it mean we should just accept it?

Quick hypothetical... racist on the bus spewing hatred everywhere do you, challenge what is being said? Or just ignore it because there's loadsa racists and there has always been

As with everything you make a call based on the circumstances - it's not always necessary to challenge everything and everyone, sometimes challenging them is not worth the effort, sometimes it would place your safety at risk and sometimes it's absolutely worth challenging opposing views.

It's a case of picking and choosing battles though and most of the time on here, it's best to ignore and move on - but like I say it depends on the circumstance. Am I going to challenge every status that I perceive to be "rude", of course not and I bet my bottom dollar you don't either

No it's not. If I had to sit there and deliberate with myself whether something is morally wrong enough or not for to act then I would feel like a dick. If you see something morally wrong and you don't think it's worth 'the effort' to challenge it then you my friend are a coward.

I always stand up for what I think is morally right otherwise I feel like a hypocrite.

The benefits sometime aren't there for us to see straight away but all it takes is one child to witness you challenging racism or immoral behaviour and they learn that this should not be accepted in society

You've totally misinterpreted what I was saying and there's a huge difference between something that is morally wrong and something you 'perceive' to be rude on a website - to take the situation you describe if someone was being overtly racist on a bus would I challenge it? Of course I would - if someone was being overtly racist on a bus full of EDL supporters, would I directly challenge it? Possibly not, it would depend on the circumstance and how safe I felt to do so, and that's not being a coward at all - it's about being safe and I suggest you're a liar if you say you'd do otherwise.

But to bring it back into context - just because someone posts a rude status on here doesn't mean it's worth challenging - what difference would it make? None at all probably!! I ask again all these rude statuses and profiles you see and refer to - do you send each and every one of them a message pointing out why you think they're wrong? No? Thought not!!

This discussion is filling up with presumptions. What if there was a bus full of racists and you weren't their skin tone and had a child that's not with you? Still gonna be a coward then?

The way I see it is if you are scared to stick up for what's right because of fear of getting hurt then you are a coward. I learnt this the hard way but now I will never stand by and let others do things I view as morally wrong. What about if Martin Luther king thought like you? I had a dream but I thought I'd keep it to myself as it was safer.

To presume you know me and how I would act in a situation is a little rediculous. One thing for sure though most black and mixed race people I know are a lot less likely to stand by and let intolerance happen around them because they have been subjected to so much of it themselves

You say he is being presumptuous but so are you.......

I understand what he is saying. As a black person I will stand up to intolerance. But if it puts my life in danger, what would be the point of leaving my hypothetical child without a parent for a battle I knew I could not win?

You feel that's being a coward, that's absolutely fine, you're entitled your opinion. But in the same way you have your opinion, others are entitled to have theirs.

Mrs

Who said it's a battle you could not win? Would these people kill you if you stuck up for what is right? Horrible as it sounds but a lot of key figures in black history have had horrible injustices happen to them in order for them to act. Maybe that's the child with you.

I'll say this one more time: if what stops you from acting is your own personal safety then that's up to you but I view it as cowardice. There's 1000s that will sit there next to you and do nothing and make no difference but to me that doesn't make it right. I'd rather stick up for what I think is right and run the risk in order for change. Yes it will probably always stay the same but that doesn't mean I'm willing to give up in what I think is right"

You completely missed the point but that's ok.

Mrs

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yet another whingy thread from a man..oh joy

These are the sorts I'm talking about

Im usually quite friendly on the forums but for some reason threads like this really grind my gears..

You aren't doing yourself any favours by calling out people with bad manners..

Just ignore those that p*** you off..I usually do

I can't see why someone trying to stop others spreading hatred would anger you but ok...

Don't agree with turning a blind eye. Just makes things worse

Who mentioned hatred? Oh you did, just now...

Moving the goalposts again are you OP? I've noticed from past posts of yours that you're quite adept at that

Feel free to attack my previous actions as I am someone who is hopefully learning from them.

I mentioned hatred because there isn't much love communicated in the messages I'm talking about. I don't see how this constitutes in moving goalposts because this is what the original post was about"

You went from saying people (mainly women i might add) were rude and abrupt in messages and statuses, to saying they spread hatred...I would definitely say the goalposts had shifted somewhat..wouldn't you?

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By *emini ManMan  over a year ago

There and to the left a bit


"Yet another whingy thread from a man..oh joy

These are the sorts I'm talking about

Im usually quite friendly on the forums but for some reason threads like this really grind my gears..

You aren't doing yourself any favours by calling out people with bad manners..

Just ignore those that p*** you off..I usually do

I can't see why someone trying to stop others spreading hatred would anger you but ok...

Don't agree with turning a blind eye. Just makes things worse

Who mentioned hatred? Oh you did, just now...

Moving the goalposts again are you OP? I've noticed from past posts of yours that you're quite adept at that

Feel free to attack my previous actions as I am someone who is hopefully learning from them.

I mentioned hatred because there isn't much love communicated in the messages I'm talking about. I don't see how this constitutes in moving goalposts because this is what the original post was about"

The thread started being about people being rude "through statuses, messages and forums." and yet you've somehow seen fit to bring hatred and racism into that?

I'd call that moving the goalposts so far from the original post that they've been on a different pitch and changed from football ones to rugby ones to be totally honest!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yet another whingy thread from a man..oh joy

These are the sorts I'm talking about

Im usually quite friendly on the forums but for some reason threads like this really grind my gears..

You aren't doing yourself any favours by calling out people with bad manners..

Just ignore those that p*** you off..I usually do

I can't see why someone trying to stop others spreading hatred would anger you but ok...

Don't agree with turning a blind eye. Just makes things worse

Who mentioned hatred? Oh you did, just now...

Moving the goalposts again are you OP? I've noticed from past posts of yours that you're quite adept at that

Feel free to attack my previous actions as I am someone who is hopefully learning from them.

I mentioned hatred because there isn't much love communicated in the messages I'm talking about. I don't see how this constitutes in moving goalposts because this is what the original post was about

The thread started being about people being rude "through statuses, messages and forums." and yet you've somehow seen fit to bring hatred and racism into that?

I'd call that moving the goalposts so far from the original post that they've been on a different pitch and changed from football ones to rugby ones to be totally honest!!"

As usual Gemini man is spot on.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

If you do not see hurtful messages as a form of hatred then I can't help you.

If you can't discuss hypothetical situations to reinforce a point you are trying to make then I also can't help you.

The fact that the messages I was talking about are full of hate and sometimes involve racism also has no relevance eh?

I hate having to explain yourself 20 times a forum post. Think I'll stick to music recommendations

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By *emini ManMan  over a year ago

There and to the left a bit


"If you do not see hurtful messages as a form of hatred then I can't help you.

If you can't discuss hypothetical situations to reinforce a point you are trying to make then I also can't help you.

The fact that the messages I was talking about are full of hate and sometimes involve racism also has no relevance eh?

I hate having to explain yourself 20 times a forum post. Think I'll stick to music recommendations"

Perhaps if you were more specific rather than making generalisations it would help

Your original post didn't mention hate or racism, in fact all it mentioned was people "being quite rude and abrupt on here through statuses, messages and forums."

Hatred is not being "quite rude or abrupt" nor is racism.

There ya go changing the goalposts again!!

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By *oan of DArcCouple  over a year ago

Glasgow


"

If you can't discuss hypothetical situations to reinforce a point you are trying to make then I also can't help you."

But the hypothetical situation bore no comparison to your original post, it's like comparing cancer sufferers to substance misusers...if you can forgive the analogy.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"If you do not see hurtful messages as a form of hatred then I can't help you.

If you can't discuss hypothetical situations to reinforce a point you are trying to make then I also can't help you.

The fact that the messages I was talking about are full of hate and sometimes involve racism also has no relevance eh?

I hate having to explain yourself 20 times a forum post. Think I'll stick to music recommendations

Perhaps if you were more specific rather than making generalisations it would help

Your original post didn't mention hate or racism, in fact all it mentioned was people "being quite rude and abrupt on here through statuses, messages and forums."

Hatred is not being "quite rude or abrupt" nor is racism.

There ya go changing the goalposts again!!"

So are you asking me to specify every type of message I consider to be rude? Because I consider racism to be pretty rude. Are racism and hatred not considered rude? Is this an English class and are you most concerned about me using the proper phrasing? Or an easier question: do you ubderstand what is being said?

All you're arguing is semantics of word definitions rather than expressing an opinion. I get bored with people that do this because you don't want to give your opinion you only wish to be right.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"

If you can't discuss hypothetical situations to reinforce a point you are trying to make then I also can't help you.

But the hypothetical situation bore no comparison to your original post, it's like comparing cancer sufferers to substance misusers...if you can forgive the analogy."

This was because the hypothetical situation was a response to another post not the first one. I was drawing comparison to those who don't wish to challenge things they find morally wrong. Racism on the bus seemed a good analogy. Yes it was over exaggerated to reinforce the point. Your analogies are nothing alike

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Bloody fell for it again. I was hoping we were all going to have a ska sing-along. But alas it’s not to be.

I raise a special brew and leave you in peace

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By *bonynivoryCouple  over a year ago

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"If you do not see hurtful messages as a form of hatred then I can't help you.

If you can't discuss hypothetical situations to reinforce a point you are trying to make then I also can't help you.

The fact that the messages I was talking about are full of hate and sometimes involve racism also has no relevance eh?

I hate having to explain yourself 20 times a forum post. Think I'll stick to music recommendations

Perhaps if you were more specific rather than making generalisations it would help

Your original post didn't mention hate or racism, in fact all it mentioned was people "being quite rude and abrupt on here through statuses, messages and forums."

Hatred is not being "quite rude or abrupt" nor is racism.

There ya go changing the goalposts again!!

So are you asking me to specify every type of message I consider to be rude? Because I consider racism to be pretty rude. Are racism and hatred not considered rude? Is this an English class and are you most concerned about me using the proper phrasing? Or an easier question: do you ubderstand what is being said?

All you're arguing is semantics of word definitions rather than expressing an opinion. I get bored with people that do this because you don't want to give your opinion you only wish to be right.

"

My opinion is that you started a thread about women being rude in messages, profiles and forum posts. Some people disagreed with you and didn't say "yes you're right, you win" so you threw in racism because you know it's an explosive subject. Some people still don't agree with you and having a healthy debate or agreeing to disagree is much too hard so you're "bored" of them.

Mrs

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"If you do not see hurtful messages as a form of hatred then I can't help you.

If you can't discuss hypothetical situations to reinforce a point you are trying to make then I also can't help you.

The fact that the messages I was talking about are full of hate and sometimes involve racism also has no relevance eh?

I hate having to explain yourself 20 times a forum post. Think I'll stick to music recommendations

Perhaps if you were more specific rather than making generalisations it would help

Your original post didn't mention hate or racism, in fact all it mentioned was people "being quite rude and abrupt on here through statuses, messages and forums."

Hatred is not being "quite rude or abrupt" nor is racism.

There ya go changing the goalposts again!!

So are you asking me to specify every type of message I consider to be rude? Because I consider racism to be pretty rude. Are racism and hatred not considered rude? Is this an English class and are you most concerned about me using the proper phrasing? Or an easier question: do you ubderstand what is being said?

All you're arguing is semantics of word definitions rather than expressing an opinion. I get bored with people that do this because you don't want to give your opinion you only wish to be right.

My opinion is that you started a thread about women being rude in messages, profiles and forum posts. Some people disagreed with you and didn't say "yes you're right, you win" so you threw in racism because you know it's an explosive subject. Some people still don't agree with you and having a healthy debate or agreeing to disagree is much too hard so you're "bored" of them.

Mrs

"

Did people disagree? Was the comment about racism directly saying something about the original post? Or was it about sticking up for what's right?

I threw in racism as a way to exaggerate the situation under a harder topic.

I would debate if people were actually opposing what I said with reasoning. So far you have both just said how I am wrong by picking apart what I've said. You've took it as an attack on women even though I said 'people (mostly women)' then explained why (because I only look at women's profiles).

Neither of you have expressed an opinion or given me anything except you are wrong.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Noticed a lot of people (more women) being quite rude and abrupt on here through statuses, messages and forums. Remember, yet because you get a lot of attention doesn't mean you get to talk to those you are not interested in like dirt. Be respectful and nice or say nothing. We all know that women get hammered with messages on here but that doesn't give you the right to say what you want to people. Most would not say what they say face to face through fear of looking like a piece of s**t so why do it online?"

Lol, yet the whole tone of your message is aggressive and critical.

So let's look at it a different way, you wouldn't talk to me face to face like that so why do it on here? And actually anybody can talk to anybody and use the site exactly how they like. Yes it's better if everybody is nice and polite, but that works both ways.

I can already tell from this post that you aren't as nice and polite as you like to think you are, and if you don't like it that's tough shite. Not a thing you can do about it.

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By *bonynivoryCouple  over a year ago

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By *bonynivoryCouple  over a year ago

market harborough


"If you do not see hurtful messages as a form of hatred then I can't help you.

If you can't discuss hypothetical situations to reinforce a point you are trying to make then I also can't help you.

The fact that the messages I was talking about are full of hate and sometimes involve racism also has no relevance eh?

I hate having to explain yourself 20 times a forum post. Think I'll stick to music recommendations

Perhaps if you were more specific rather than making generalisations it would help

Your original post didn't mention hate or racism, in fact all it mentioned was people "being quite rude and abrupt on here through statuses, messages and forums."

Hatred is not being "quite rude or abrupt" nor is racism.

There ya go changing the goalposts again!!

So are you asking me to specify every type of message I consider to be rude? Because I consider racism to be pretty rude. Are racism and hatred not considered rude? Is this an English class and are you most concerned about me using the proper phrasing? Or an easier question: do you ubderstand what is being said?

All you're arguing is semantics of word definitions rather than expressing an opinion. I get bored with people that do this because you don't want to give your opinion you only wish to be right.

My opinion is that you started a thread about women being rude in messages, profiles and forum posts. Some people disagreed with you and didn't say "yes you're right, you win" so you threw in racism because you know it's an explosive subject. Some people still don't agree with you and having a healthy debate or agreeing to disagree is much too hard so you're "bored" of them.

Mrs

Did people disagree? Was the comment about racism directly saying something about the original post? Or was it about sticking up for what's right?

I threw in racism as a way to exaggerate the situation under a harder topic.

I would debate if people were actually opposing what I said with reasoning. So far you have both just said how I am wrong by picking apart what I've said. You've took it as an attack on women even though I said 'people (mostly women)' then explained why (because I only look at women's profiles).

Neither of you have expressed an opinion or given me anything except you are wrong. "

Are you actually reading the same thread?

Mrs

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By *rincess peachWoman  over a year ago

shits creek

Ok, said it before and I'll say it again. I'll say whatever I have to say to someones face. Give no fucks.

However... I must agree with comments made about picking your battles. If I'm confronted by a gang of people with knives am I gonna put up much of a fight? I doubt it (unless I'm hormonal perhaps, in which case blood would be shed) OR am I likely to let the police deal with it? Let me think.

On here if something is MORALLY wrong, let admin know, they'll deal with it if it's deemed worthy.

Some yes, I'll kick up a fuss if they fuck me off and tell them, mainly because I feel they need educating. Others are cunts, and yes, I'll make that known too.

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By *urved HunnyWoman  over a year ago

Essex

Life would be so much more pleasant if we didn't have to deal with rudeness, I've had it here and I just report the perp.

I'm only able to control myself and am always polite but sadly some allow themselves to show themselves up

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"You get this in all walks of life and on all types of forums, it will never change!

That make it ok? Or does it mean we should just accept it?

Quick hypothetical... racist on the bus spewing hatred everywhere do you, challenge what is being said? Or just ignore it because there's loadsa racists and there has always been

As with everything you make a call based on the circumstances - it's not always necessary to challenge everything and everyone, sometimes challenging them is not worth the effort, sometimes it would place your safety at risk and sometimes it's absolutely worth challenging opposing views.

It's a case of picking and choosing battles though and most of the time on here, it's best to ignore and move on - but like I say it depends on the circumstance. Am I going to challenge every status that I perceive to be "rude", of course not and I bet my bottom dollar you don't either

No it's not. If I had to sit there and deliberate with myself whether something is morally wrong enough or not for to act then I would feel like a dick. If you see something morally wrong and you don't think it's worth 'the effort' to challenge it then you my friend are a coward.

I always stand up for what I think is morally right otherwise I feel like a hypocrite.

The benefits sometime aren't there for us to see straight away but all it takes is one child to witness you challenging racism or immoral behaviour and they learn that this should not be accepted in society

You've totally misinterpreted what I was saying and there's a huge difference between something that is morally wrong and something you 'perceive' to be rude on a website - to take the situation you describe if someone was being overtly racist on a bus would I challenge it? Of course I would - if someone was being overtly racist on a bus full of EDL supporters, would I directly challenge it? Possibly not, it would depend on the circumstance and how safe I felt to do so, and that's not being a coward at all - it's about being safe and I suggest you're a liar if you say you'd do otherwise.

But to bring it back into context - just because someone posts a rude status on here doesn't mean it's worth challenging - what difference would it make? None at all probably!! I ask again all these rude statuses and profiles you see and refer to - do you send each and every one of them a message pointing out why you think they're wrong? No? Thought not!!

This discussion is filling up with presumptions. What if there was a bus full of racists and you weren't their skin tone and had a child that's not with you? Still gonna be a coward then?

The way I see it is if you are scared to stick up for what's right because of fear of getting hurt then you are a coward. I learnt this the hard way but now I will never stand by and let others do things I view as morally wrong. What about if Martin Luther king thought like you? I had a dream but I thought I'd keep it to myself as it was safer.

To presume you know me and how I would act in a situation is a little rediculous. One thing for sure though most black and mixed race people I know are a lot less likely to stand by and let intolerance happen around them because they have been subjected to so much of it themselves"

Where the fuck are you going with this, are you now liking yourself to a poor man's Martin Luther King, lol. I would suggest you know little about racism or sticking up for abused children and try to win your silly little argument about people not being very nice to you and you're going to tell your mum, before you get in way over your cute little head.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Noticed a lot of people (more women) being quite rude and abrupt on here through statuses, messages and forums. Remember, yet because you get a lot of attention doesn't mean you get to talk to those you are not interested in like dirt. Be respectful and nice or say nothing. We all know that women get hammered with messages on here but that doesn't give you the right to say what you want to people. Most would not say what they say face to face through fear of looking like a piece of s**t so why do it online?

Lol, yet the whole tone of your message is aggressive and critical.

So let's look at it a different way, you wouldn't talk to me face to face like that so why do it on here? And actually anybody can talk to anybody and use the site exactly how they like. Yes it's better if everybody is nice and polite, but that works both ways.

I can already tell from this post that you aren't as nice and polite as you like to think you are, and if you don't like it that's tough shite. Not a thing you can do about it. "

I can tell you are a couple... let's attack and give no reasoning... the tone is not aggressive but it is critical... not sure critical is a tone but I am always critical.

Anything I have said on here I would say to your face end of story. I like to be true to myself and I ain't scared to say what I feel in front of anyone.

Yes anyone can talk to anyone and use the site how they please including drawing attention to the fact that you may look like a s**t if you go round talking to everyone like one.

I have never claimed to be nice or polite but I do try. That includes holding back some of my thoughts and feelings because I don't like deliberately hutmrting others

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I often get nasty comments back, I dont meet often because busy life and just want to meet now n again, I try to reply to all usually with a ‘no sorry’ or a ‘not interested sorry’ I’m a big girl but want to meet men into big women not someone just desperate for a shag, just wanna feel good about myself n not cheap, but after sending that I often get back “well you’re a fat c*nt with horrible saggy tits anyway” sometimes I block others I’ll reply with “yeah and the fat c*nt with horrible saggy tits just turned you down”!

Guys it hurts, dont have a very high self esteem anyway without getting kicked on here... makes me very wary n has probably stopped me meeting some of the decent genuine guys that are on here x it’s true there’s no need for rudeness xx

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"If you do not see hurtful messages as a form of hatred then I can't help you.

If you can't discuss hypothetical situations to reinforce a point you are trying to make then I also can't help you.

The fact that the messages I was talking about are full of hate and sometimes involve racism also has no relevance eh?

I hate having to explain yourself 20 times a forum post. Think I'll stick to music recommendations

Perhaps if you were more specific rather than making generalisations it would help

Your original post didn't mention hate or racism, in fact all it mentioned was people "being quite rude and abrupt on here through statuses, messages and forums."

Hatred is not being "quite rude or abrupt" nor is racism.

There ya go changing the goalposts again!!"

I did warn that the OP does that a lot...

It starts off as quite an innocuous thread in order to pull people in then when he sees its not going his way, he pulls out the big guns..namely hatred and racism..

If that's what it was always about then it should have been covered in the OP

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By *bonynivoryCouple  over a year ago

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"Noticed a lot of people (more women) being quite rude and abrupt on here through statuses, messages and forums. Remember, yet because you get a lot of attention doesn't mean you get to talk to those you are not interested in like dirt. Be respectful and nice or say nothing. We all know that women get hammered with messages on here but that doesn't give you the right to say what you want to people. Most would not say what they say face to face through fear of looking like a piece of s**t so why do it online?

Lol, yet the whole tone of your message is aggressive and critical.

So let's look at it a different way, you wouldn't talk to me face to face like that so why do it on here? And actually anybody can talk to anybody and use the site exactly how they like. Yes it's better if everybody is nice and polite, but that works both ways.

I can already tell from this post that you aren't as nice and polite as you like to think you are, and if you don't like it that's tough shite. Not a thing you can do about it.

I can tell you are a couple... let's attack and give no reasoning... the tone is not aggressive but it is critical... not sure critical is a tone but I am always critical.

Anything I have said on here I would say to your face end of story. I like to be true to myself and I ain't scared to say what I feel in front of anyone.

Yes anyone can talk to anyone and use the site how they please including drawing attention to the fact that you may look like a s**t if you go round talking to everyone like one.

I have never claimed to be nice or polite but I do try. That includes holding back some of my thoughts and feelings because I don't like deliberately hutmrting others"

Nothing I have said to you has been rude. Not sure what being a couple has to do with it. I am my own person. Like I said, I disagreed with you and gave you an opinion on how I view the situation. I was very chill. You chose to dismiss me and my views, despite the fact that I actually said you're entitled to yours. I can take some of your responses as being rude. But that's my interpretation of them. I'm not going to get triggered over it. Its not that deep.

Mrs

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"I often get nasty comments back, I dont meet often because busy life and just want to meet now n again, I try to reply to all usually with a ‘no sorry’ or a ‘not interested sorry’ I’m a big girl but want to meet men into big women not someone just desperate for a shag, just wanna feel good about myself n not cheap, but after sending that I often get back “well you’re a fat c*nt with horrible saggy tits anyway” sometimes I block others I’ll reply with “yeah and the fat c*nt with horrible saggy tits just turned you down”!

Guys it hurts, dont have a very high self esteem anyway without getting kicked on here... makes me very wary n has probably stopped me meeting some of the decent genuine guys that are on here x it’s true there’s no need for rudeness xx "

yes exactly! From a female's perspective it seems to be the same. You ain't gotta be mean when rejecting, dealing with rejection or anything else on here.

If I saw someone say something so disgusting to you in person, I would challenge them and try to make sure they knew what they've said is not acceptable. Why I try to do the same online

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By *risky_MareWoman  over a year ago

...Up on the Downs


"I don't know about the rest but I find kind, warm, tolerant, friendly women very very very sexy! also makes me trust them and puts me at ease

I completely agree - kindness is sexy"

Yes, kindness is one of the most attractive qualities a person can have.

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By *emini ManMan  over a year ago

There and to the left a bit


"If you do not see hurtful messages as a form of hatred then I can't help you.

If you can't discuss hypothetical situations to reinforce a point you are trying to make then I also can't help you.

The fact that the messages I was talking about are full of hate and sometimes involve racism also has no relevance eh?

I hate having to explain yourself 20 times a forum post. Think I'll stick to music recommendations

Perhaps if you were more specific rather than making generalisations it would help

Your original post didn't mention hate or racism, in fact all it mentioned was people "being quite rude and abrupt on here through statuses, messages and forums."

Hatred is not being "quite rude or abrupt" nor is racism.

There ya go changing the goalposts again!!

So are you asking me to specify every type of message I consider to be rude? Because I consider racism to be pretty rude. Are racism and hatred not considered rude? Is this an English class and are you most concerned about me using the proper phrasing? Or an easier question: do you ubderstand what is being said?

All you're arguing is semantics of word definitions rather than expressing an opinion. I get bored with people that do this because you don't want to give your opinion you only wish to be right.

"

No I'm pointing out a fundamental difference between what you originally posted about and what you've turned the thread into by moving the goalposts as you usually do, even though you deny you have done so.

I've given my opinion several times in this thread and far from arguing the semantics of word definitions, I'm asking questions and pointing out flaws in what you have said in order to try and better understand your reasoning, which currently defeats me to be honest.

Of course hatred and racism are rude, in fact in their extremes they are vile and on whatever level they should not be tolerated. My point, which was quite clear to all but you it seems, was that racism and hatred are not what comes to mind when someone describes something as "quite rude or abrupt", they're far worse than "quite rude" for starters - which again is why I asked for examples of what you meant, as all your OP did was generalise and single out women for particular attention.

As an example of something that is "quite rude and abrupt" though I'd suggest calling someone you don't agree with a "coward" and someone who you get "bored with" as being quite rude.

And far from wishing to be right, I'm providing my opinion, and trying to understand exactly where you are coming from - there is no winner or loser here.

No one has disagreed with the sentiment of your OP about there being no need to be rude - what people have tried to understand, and you have thus far failed to provide, is the context and the reasoning behind what you are saying - all you have done is drag it off in various directions, ignored direct questions, failed to provide specific examples, and dragged hatred and racism into the debate for reasons that are not particularly clear. In other words you've moved and changed the goalposts from what you originally stated.

It's also the fact you singled out women in your original post that has caused people to question your motives and reasoning.

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By *emini ManMan  over a year ago

There and to the left a bit


"If you do not see hurtful messages as a form of hatred then I can't help you.

If you can't discuss hypothetical situations to reinforce a point you are trying to make then I also can't help you.

The fact that the messages I was talking about are full of hate and sometimes involve racism also has no relevance eh?

I hate having to explain yourself 20 times a forum post. Think I'll stick to music recommendations

Perhaps if you were more specific rather than making generalisations it would help

Your original post didn't mention hate or racism, in fact all it mentioned was people "being quite rude and abrupt on here through statuses, messages and forums."

Hatred is not being "quite rude or abrupt" nor is racism.

There ya go changing the goalposts again!!

I did warn that the OP does that a lot...

It starts off as quite an innocuous thread in order to pull people in then when he sees its not going his way, he pulls out the big guns..namely hatred and racism..

If that's what it was always about then it should have been covered in the OP"

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Noticed a lot of people (more women) being quite rude and abrupt on here through statuses, messages and forums. Remember, yet because you get a lot of attention doesn't mean you get to talk to those you are not interested in like dirt. Be respectful and nice or say nothing. We all know that women get hammered with messages on here but that doesn't give you the right to say what you want to people. Most would not say what they say face to face through fear of looking like a piece of s**t so why do it online?

Lol, yet the whole tone of your message is aggressive and critical.

So let's look at it a different way, you wouldn't talk to me face to face like that so why do it on here? And actually anybody can talk to anybody and use the site exactly how they like. Yes it's better if everybody is nice and polite, but that works both ways.

I can already tell from this post that you aren't as nice and polite as you like to think you are, and if you don't like it that's tough shite. Not a thing you can do about it.

I can tell you are a couple... let's attack and give no reasoning... the tone is not aggressive but it is critical... not sure critical is a tone but I am always critical.

Anything I have said on here I would say to your face end of story. I like to be true to myself and I ain't scared to say what I feel in front of anyone.

Yes anyone can talk to anyone and use the site how they please including drawing attention to the fact that you may look like a s**t if you go round talking to everyone like one.

I have never claimed to be nice or polite but I do try. That includes holding back some of my thoughts and feelings because I don't like deliberately hutmrting others"

Well you're the one looking a shit, putting in * doesn't mean you aren't swearing by the way, thus is an adult forum which you seem to be struggling to grasp.

Oh and your comment about seeing we are a couple is assumptive and rude, we posted independently, she thinks you can be reasoned with, I think you're an entitled knob, didn't even know she was taking part, lol.

And to continue with the assumption e posting, I can tell you're single and I can tell why. You are practically crying online here as hardly anybody agrees with you, so now you're chucking in racial prejudice, child abuse, blah, blah, blah.

And I would most certainly repeat every word to your face.

Youre tone in your op isn't critical it's aggressive and threatening, telling people to watch what they say and yehy wouldn't say it face to face is undoubtedly threatening, which is what has got so many peoples backs up.

And you haven't posted a single substantive fact to back up any of your wittering, so don't go attacking people claiming a lack of substance to their arguments, yours couldn't have less substance, unfortunately as we aren't in school anymore yiy can't make all these ridiculous claims when you're guilty of the identical things, and not expect to get called on it.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"If you do not see hurtful messages as a form of hatred then I can't help you.

If you can't discuss hypothetical situations to reinforce a point you are trying to make then I also can't help you.

The fact that the messages I was talking about are full of hate and sometimes involve racism also has no relevance eh?

I hate having to explain yourself 20 times a forum post. Think I'll stick to music recommendations

Perhaps if you were more specific rather than making generalisations it would help

Your original post didn't mention hate or racism, in fact all it mentioned was people "being quite rude and abrupt on here through statuses, messages and forums."

Hatred is not being "quite rude or abrupt" nor is racism.

There ya go changing the goalposts again!!

So are you asking me to specify every type of message I consider to be rude? Because I consider racism to be pretty rude. Are racism and hatred not considered rude? Is this an English class and are you most concerned about me using the proper phrasing? Or an easier question: do you ubderstand what is being said?

All you're arguing is semantics of word definitions rather than expressing an opinion. I get bored with people that do this because you don't want to give your opinion you only wish to be right.

No I'm pointing out a fundamental difference between what you originally posted about and what you've turned the thread into by moving the goalposts as you usually do, even though you deny you have done so.

I've given my opinion several times in this thread and far from arguing the semantics of word definitions, I'm asking questions and pointing out flaws in what you have said in order to try and better understand your reasoning, which currently defeats me to be honest.

Of course hatred and racism are rude, in fact in their extremes they are vile and on whatever level they should not be tolerated. My point, which was quite clear to all but you it seems, was that racism and hatred are not what comes to mind when someone describes something as "quite rude or abrupt", they're far worse than "quite rude" for starters - which again is why I asked for examples of what you meant, as all your OP did was generalise and single out women for particular attention.

As an example of something that is "quite rude and abrupt" though I'd suggest calling someone you don't agree with a "coward" and someone who you get "bored with" as being quite rude.

And far from wishing to be right, I'm providing my opinion, and trying to understand exactly where you are coming from - there is no winner or loser here.

No one has disagreed with the sentiment of your OP about there being no need to be rude - what people have tried to understand, and you have thus far failed to provide, is the context and the reasoning behind what you are saying - all you have done is drag it off in various directions, ignored direct questions, failed to provide specific examples, and dragged hatred and racism into the debate for reasons that are not particularly clear. In other words you've moved and changed the goalposts from what you originally stated.

It's also the fact you singled out women in your original post that has caused people to question your motives and reasoning.

"

I've spoken about this sort of thing before and if a non-white brings race into the discussion it becomes a bit of a sob story. I didn't want to take that angle. Plus, I'm not talking about just racism but any intolerance. Why I didn't specify so anyone could comment.

An act of cowardice is something I would brand someone a coward for. Not standing up for your beliefs is something I would classify as cowardice so I would brand that person a coward. Especially if their only reason not to act is selfish. Hopefully further down the line they'll see an act of bravery in a similar situation and it will inspire them to be braver and not just sit there.

I wasn't taking about a specific message or person that's why I didn't specify what constituted as being 'quite rude'. Just rudeness in general.

Again I singled out women because I only have experience of looking at their profiles. I am not trying to attack women.

All you are doing is pointing out what you see as flaws in what I said? How are they flaws? It's me hat said these things and I believe in everything I've said so far. so when you challenge it i have no option to defend what I've said. If I use analogies to help me do that, does that mean I'm moving the goalposts? or trying to explain from a different angle?

I don't see why people are focusing on hatred... i said spreading hate and that's what hurtful remarks are doing right? It ain't spreading love that's for sure.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Noticed a lot of people (more women) being quite rude and abrupt on here through statuses, messages and forums. Remember, yet because you get a lot of attention doesn't mean you get to talk to those you are not interested in like dirt. Be respectful and nice or say nothing. We all know that women get hammered with messages on here but that doesn't give you the right to say what you want to people. Most would not say what they say face to face through fear of looking like a piece of s**t so why do it online?

Lol, yet the whole tone of your message is aggressive and critical.

So let's look at it a different way, you wouldn't talk to me face to face like that so why do it on here? And actually anybody can talk to anybody and use the site exactly how they like. Yes it's better if everybody is nice and polite, but that works both ways.

I can already tell from this post that you aren't as nice and polite as you like to think you are, and if you don't like it that's tough shite. Not a thing you can do about it.

I can tell you are a couple... let's attack and give no reasoning... the tone is not aggressive but it is critical... not sure critical is a tone but I am always critical.

Anything I have said on here I would say to your face end of story. I like to be true to myself and I ain't scared to say what I feel in front of anyone.

Yes anyone can talk to anyone and use the site how they please including drawing attention to the fact that you may look like a s**t if you go round talking to everyone like one.

I have never claimed to be nice or polite but I do try. That includes holding back some of my thoughts and feelings because I don't like deliberately hutmrting others

Well you're the one looking a shit, putting in * doesn't mean you aren't swearing by the way, thus is an adult forum which you seem to be struggling to grasp.

Oh and your comment about seeing we are a couple is assumptive and rude, we posted independently, she thinks you can be reasoned with, I think you're an entitled knob, didn't even know she was taking part, lol.

And to continue with the assumption e posting, I can tell you're single and I can tell why. You are practically crying online here as hardly anybody agrees with you, so now you're chucking in racial prejudice, child abuse, blah, blah, blah.

And I would most certainly repeat every word to your face.

Youre tone in your op isn't critical it's aggressive and threatening, telling people to watch what they say and yehy wouldn't say it face to face is undoubtedly threatening, which is what has got so many peoples backs up.

And you haven't posted a single substantive fact to back up any of your wittering, so don't go attacking people claiming a lack of substance to their arguments, yours couldn't have less substance, unfortunately as we aren't in school anymore yiy can't make all these ridiculous claims when you're guilty of the identical things, and not expect to get called on it. "

What a lovely bloke you are! I've enjoyed our chat and wish you all the best in life.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS  over a year ago

Central

Everything you pick up about others here is helpful, so look at the positives, not negatives. Filter, block, forget, as appropriate - or warm to the wonderful others and get to work

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By *emini ManMan  over a year ago

There and to the left a bit


"Noticed a lot of people (more women) being quite rude and abrupt on here through statuses, messages and forums. Remember, yet because you get a lot of attention doesn't mean you get to talk to those you are not interested in like dirt. Be respectful and nice or say nothing. We all know that women get hammered with messages on here but that doesn't give you the right to say what you want to people. Most would not say what they say face to face through fear of looking like a piece of s**t so why do it online?"

To respond directly to this and cut out the shifting playing fields in between

Being rude is never a good thing, regardless of who is doing it

End of thread

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By *amissCouple  over a year ago

chelmsford


"Noticed a lot of people (more women) being quite rude and abrupt on here through statuses, messages and forums. Remember, yet because you get a lot of attention doesn't mean you get to talk to those you are not interested in like dirt. Be respectful and nice or say nothing. We all know that women get hammered with messages on here but that doesn't give you the right to say what you want to people. Most would not say what they say face to face through fear of looking like a piece of s**t so why do it online?

To respond directly to this and cut out the shifting playing fields in between

Being rude is never a good thing, regardless of who is doing it

End of thread "

Oh yes

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Tbh if a guy approached me irl for sex and I politely declined and he persisted to whinge and moan if say everything Iv said on messages and statuses to his face

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Noticed a lot of people (more women) being quite rude and abrupt on here through statuses, messages and forums. Remember, yet because you get a lot of attention doesn't mean you get to talk to those you are not interested in like dirt. Be respectful and nice or say nothing. We all know that women get hammered with messages on here but that doesn't give you the right to say what you want to people. Most would not say what they say face to face through fear of looking like a piece of s**t so why do it online?"
exactly be nice or go home

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Noticed a lot of people (more women) being quite rude and abrupt on here through statuses, messages and forums. Remember, yet because you get a lot of attention doesn't mean you get to talk to those you are not interested in like dirt. Be respectful and nice or say nothing. We all know that women get hammered with messages on here but that doesn't give you the right to say what you want to people. Most would not say what they say face to face through fear of looking like a piece of s**t so why do it online?"

You may see the women being rude or abrupt on statuses but I'd bet 99% of the time it's because men were rude to them first.

It's got sod all to do with the amount of messages. It's the message content that's the issue. Some men are utterly disgusting in the way they treat women on here.

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By *oan of DArcCouple  over a year ago

Glasgow


"Noticed a lot of people (more women) being quite rude and abrupt on here through statuses, messages and forums. Remember, yet because you get a lot of attention doesn't mean you get to talk to those you are not interested in like dirt. Be respectful and nice or say nothing. We all know that women get hammered with messages on here but that doesn't give you the right to say what you want to people. Most would not say what they say face to face through fear of looking like a piece of s**t so why do it online?

You may see the women being rude or abrupt on statuses but I'd bet 99% of the time it's because men were rude to them first.

It's got sod all to do with the amount of messages. It's the message content that's the issue. Some men are utterly disgusting in the way they treat women on here. "

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