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"Depends how many other girls were going. Thinking about it I was in this situation about a year ago, my daughter would of been 12. She was invited to a sleepover with 3 other girls. The parents are split up but the mum has a new partner. No issue there. Then the day before my daughter told me that the mum wasn't going to be there as she was having a night out in Manchester. So the girls would of been left with the bf who was having some mates round!!! I didn't let her go, nor did 2 of the others parent, she hated me for that but I think i made the right call!! " I would have done the same. I think it's about circumstances. Mind you a mum I really trusted rang me one night to ask if it was ok to give our 14 year old son a Bacardi breezer ![]() | |||
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"If I'd met the parents and knew them yes. " Even a single dad? | |||
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"I have a daughter of that age that asks for sleepovers, it's hard to explain that it's really not appropriate even if I know the parents. These are thoughts that go through men's (some) head when having to consider these things, I love seeing my daughter happy but at no way am I willing to be in a position where such things could be said, particularly when teenage years come along. The thought petrifies me" Failing the obvious reason, I don’t understand the reason why you would say no to a sleepover unless you want the bathroom in the morning!! | |||
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"I have a daughter of that age that asks for sleepovers, it's hard to explain that it's really not appropriate even if I know the parents. These are thoughts that go through men's (some) head when having to consider these things, I love seeing my daughter happy but at no way am I willing to be in a position where such things could be said, particularly when teenage years come along. The thought petrifies me Failing the obvious reason, I don’t understand the reason why you would say no to a sleepover unless you want the bathroom in the morning!! " Because it puts the male adult in a vulnerable position where a child could say that something untoward happened (that didn't, obviously) and leave a situation where it's her word against the male adult. Personally I don't even want to be in that situation and I'd thank all of my daughter's friends parents for not placing me in such situation | |||
"It is such an unfair one as if I knew the mum a bit I wouldn't even think twice, but just a dad and I don't think I'd let her go. My ex is a fantastic dad, has my daughter all the time and has babysat her close friends (for their mums who are my friends) on occasion, but I know if it came to a proper sleepover he wouldn't do it as he wouldn't be ok with our wee one staying over with just another dad either. Definitely a shitty way to have to think, not fair on all the brilliant dads out there ![]() Exactly this, and it's good to hear there are other single dad's out there pulling their weight too as we get a very bad rep. | |||
"It is such an unfair one as if I knew the mum a bit I wouldn't even think twice, but just a dad and I don't think I'd let her go. My ex is a fantastic dad, has my daughter all the time and has babysat her close friends (for their mums who are my friends) on occasion, but I know if it came to a proper sleepover he wouldn't do it as he wouldn't be ok with our wee one staying over with just another dad either. Definitely a shitty way to have to think, not fair on all the brilliant dads out there ![]() Big up the good step dads too. My daughter wouldn't be allowed within a mile of my sister's ex (my niece's dad) but she stays over all the time with her and her new guy, who is an absolute diamond and I am totally comfortable with that. Also know that he would never entertain hosting a sleepover either though. | |||
"Depends how many other girls were going. Thinking about it I was in this situation about a year ago, my daughter would of been 12. She was invited to a sleepover with 3 other girls. The parents are split up but the mum has a new partner. No issue there. Then the day before my daughter told me that the mum wasn't going to be there as she was having a night out in Manchester. So the girls would of been left with the bf who was having some mates round!!! I didn't let her go, nor did 2 of the others parent, she hated me for that but I think i made the right call!! " Totally agree with your decision. Just can't be too careful these days. Sara x | |||
"It is such an unfair one as if I knew the mum a bit I wouldn't even think twice, but just a dad and I don't think I'd let her go. My ex is a fantastic dad, has my daughter all the time and has babysat her close friends (for their mums who are my friends) on occasion, but I know if it came to a proper sleepover he wouldn't do it as he wouldn't be ok with our wee one staying over with just another dad either. Definitely a shitty way to have to think, not fair on all the brilliant dads out there ![]() Step dad's too, they have it rough | |||
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"This relates to girlie sleepovers; I’m looking for views on a specific element. Let’s say you have a daughter late primary to mid secondary school age. She’s announced she’s going for a sleepover:- A To a friend whose parents are separated and the sleepover is at the Mum’s house B As above but at the Dad’s house Let’s say that sleepovers are allowed as that’s not what I’m looking for views on Would you be happy with your daughter going to either sleepover? Men - would you host a sleepover for your daughter and her friends? " my daughter's friends regularly stay over with her at her dad's....my son's mates used to stay over with him at my house....no one ever mentioned any issues | |||
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"If I knew the parents then yes. I wouldn’t want my child sleeping somewhere if I didn’t know the parents, although I do appreciate it is slightly different when they go to secondary school because you’re not bumping into parents at the school gate so probably are unlikely to know them that well. " Do we ever really know a person though? ![]() | |||
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"If I knew the parents then yes. I wouldn’t want my child sleeping somewhere if I didn’t know the parents, although I do appreciate it is slightly different when they go to secondary school because you’re not bumping into parents at the school gate so probably are unlikely to know them that well. Do we ever really know a person though? ![]() Some people are married to serial killers without knowing so no, you don’t. I mean generally... if my child wanted to stay somewhere and that parent was unknown to me then I wouldn’t let my child stay over. | |||
"Fascinating read this thread. " I'm agog! I'm not a parent but some of the comment aimed mostly at single dads are astonishing. | |||
"Fascinating read this thread. I'm agog! I'm not a parent but some of the comment aimed mostly at single dads are astonishing. " This was my point.... people don't seem to realise that women are just as much of a threat to children. And the majority of abusers are known to the victim already... including family friends, which is where a lot of sleepovers happen. It's a shitty world in which we have to be so cautious when it comes to such an innocent thing such as a sleepover ![]() | |||
"Fascinating read this thread. I'm agog! I'm not a parent but some of the comment aimed mostly at single dads are astonishing. This was my point.... people don't seem to realise that women are just as much of a threat to children. And the majority of abusers are known to the victim already... including family friends, which is where a lot of sleepovers happen. It's a shitty world in which we have to be so cautious when it comes to such an innocent thing such as a sleepover ![]() I think its also a sign of how disconnected society is becoming. When I was at school all the mums and dads knew each other or at least made an effort to if I wanted to go on a sleep over. | |||
"Fascinating read this thread. I'm agog! I'm not a parent but some of the comment aimed mostly at single dads are astonishing. This was my point.... people don't seem to realise that women are just as much of a threat to children. And the majority of abusers are known to the victim already... including family friends, which is where a lot of sleepovers happen. It's a shitty world in which we have to be so cautious when it comes to such an innocent thing such as a sleepover ![]() It is often presumed that the male is the only threat. It’s also considered ‘safe’ because it’s at a friends house. I suppose you have to trust your judgement when considering whether you would or wouldn’t consider let your child stay over. | |||
"Fascinating read this thread. I'm agog! I'm not a parent but some of the comment aimed mostly at single dads are astonishing. This was my point.... people don't seem to realise that women are just as much of a threat to children. And the majority of abusers are known to the victim already... including family friends, which is where a lot of sleepovers happen. It's a shitty world in which we have to be so cautious when it comes to such an innocent thing such as a sleepover ![]() Absolutely x | |||
" I only allow my kids to trusted people Always a risk I went to a married couples as a child In the region of 10 other girls Long story short the dad went to prison for sexual abuse after that sleepover The wife I feel was aware or at least has suspicions There is no 'safe' combo Please know and trust the people you trust with your children " Omg I so know this kind of situation, my 20yr old daughter had a best friend always round her house, lovely family all very family orinated, done everything together mum dad, grandparents aunties uncles cousins, my daughter even went on holiday with the family, then about 5yrs after she had a massive falling out with her friend, the granddad was sent to prison for child abuse from the 70s, and they found pics of young girls on his laptop, thankgod he never done anything to my daughter, but I'm now more careful, but haven't had another child ask to go to sleep overs yet, so scary though x | |||
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"This relates to girlie sleepovers; I’m looking for views on a specific element. Let’s say you have a daughter late primary to mid secondary school age. She’s announced she’s going for a sleepover:- A To a friend whose parents are separated and the sleepover is at the Mum’s house B As above but at the Dad’s house Let’s say that sleepovers are allowed as that’s not what I’m looking for views on Would you be happy with your daughter going to either sleepover? Men - would you host a sleepover for your daughter and her friends? " why wouldn't i??? | |||
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" I am really shocked at this thread So single dad's are essentially being labelled as a threat to girls? But single mum's not to boys? There is no trust anymore, it's a world gone mad. I would gladly let my children, one of each, stay at their friends. Gay, single, whatever I am really shocked at the outlook some people have here. " THIS!! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"My kids only ever had sleepovers with people we knew well, as for being teens, it was parties not sleepovers at friends houses. They used to sleepover regularly with a friend who was brought up by a single Dad, and he was great, it was their favourite place to go! My friend is a single Dad of a little girl, and I wouldn't hesitate if my little girl was asked for a sleepover. I think it's such a sad reflection on society when we have questions and suspicions about everyone. I was a manager of a Day Nursery, and a parent rang up to query about the male practitioner we had, was he safe? She didn't want him changing her daughter! And why on earth would a man do that job ![]() | |||
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" I am really shocked at this thread So single dad's are essentially being labelled as a threat to girls? But single mum's not to boys? There is no trust anymore, it's a world gone mad. I would gladly let my children, one of each, stay at their friends. Gay, single, whatever I am really shocked at the outlook some people have here. " People have different perceptions of risk. The reality is that the most dangerous part of all this was probably the drive from you house to theirs. You're way more likely to be in a car accident than any of the other risks that people are alluding to. | |||
"Depends how many other girls were going. Thinking about it I was in this situation about a year ago, my daughter would of been 12. She was invited to a sleepover with 3 other girls. The parents are split up but the mum has a new partner. No issue there. Then the day before my daughter told me that the mum wasn't going to be there as she was having a night out in Manchester. So the girls would of been left with the bf who was having some mates round!!! I didn't let her go, nor did 2 of the others parent, she hated me for that but I think i made the right call!! I would have done the same. I think it's about circumstances. Mind you a mum I really trusted rang me one night to ask if it was ok to give our 14 year old son a Bacardi breezer ![]() Are they trying to turn him gay? He should be on whisky by that age. | |||
"Depends how many other girls were going. Thinking about it I was in this situation about a year ago, my daughter would of been 12. She was invited to a sleepover with 3 other girls. The parents are split up but the mum has a new partner. No issue there. Then the day before my daughter told me that the mum wasn't going to be there as she was having a night out in Manchester. So the girls would of been left with the bf who was having some mates round!!! I didn't let her go, nor did 2 of the others parent, she hated me for that but I think i made the right call!! I would have done the same. I think it's about circumstances. Mind you a mum I really trusted rang me one night to ask if it was ok to give our 14 year old son a Bacardi breezer ![]() He probably was, he's certainly developed a taste for a good single malt since. | |||
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"Depends how many other girls were going. Thinking about it I was in this situation about a year ago, my daughter would of been 12. She was invited to a sleepover with 3 other girls. The parents are split up but the mum has a new partner. No issue there. Then the day before my daughter told me that the mum wasn't going to be there as she was having a night out in Manchester. So the girls would of been left with the bf who was having some mates round!!! I didn't let her go, nor did 2 of the others parent, she hated me for that but I think i made the right call!! I would have done the same. I think it's about circumstances. Mind you a mum I really trusted rang me one night to ask if it was ok to give our 14 year old son a Bacardi breezer ![]() My mum gave me a Bacardi breezer around that age. I told my rugby coach thinking I was cool for drinking alcohol. He nearly had a heart attack and berated me for it. | |||
"If I'd met the parents and knew them yes. " And quite simple too. It's all a matter of how well you know the other family, if you don't know the person, then it's a definite no ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
"My kids only ever had sleepovers with people we knew well, as for being teens, it was parties not sleepovers at friends houses. They used to sleepover regularly with a friend who was brought up by a single Dad, and he was great, it was their favourite place to go! My friend is a single Dad of a little girl, and I wouldn't hesitate if my little girl was asked for a sleepover. I think it's such a sad reflection on society when we have questions and suspicions about everyone. I was a manager of a Day Nursery, and a parent rang up to query about the male practitioner we had, was he safe? She didn't want him changing her daughter! And why on earth would a man do that job ![]() I worked in a private nursery and we had parents phoning up and saying they didn’t want the only male member of staff we had changing their child’s nappy. He was the senior in the 2-3 room and sometimes was alone in there (the room was joint with the 3-5 room, so was never actually ‘alone’. No member of staff was ever alone, not allowed) but some parents didn’t like that. One mum explained that not even her daughters dad changed her nappy, as she didn’t allow it! ![]() | |||
"Depends how many other girls were going. Thinking about it I was in this situation about a year ago, my daughter would of been 12. She was invited to a sleepover with 3 other girls. The parents are split up but the mum has a new partner. No issue there. Then the day before my daughter told me that the mum wasn't going to be there as she was having a night out in Manchester. So the girls would of been left with the bf who was having some mates round!!! I didn't let her go, nor did 2 of the others parent, she hated me for that but I think i made the right call!! I would have done the same. I think it's about circumstances. Mind you a mum I really trusted rang me one night to ask if it was ok to give our 14 year old son a Bacardi breezer ![]() I felt at the time that it would encourage him to think of drinking and spirits in particular as similar to soft drinks. I could have saved my breath ![]() | |||
"Depends how many other girls were going. Thinking about it I was in this situation about a year ago, my daughter would of been 12. She was invited to a sleepover with 3 other girls. The parents are split up but the mum has a new partner. No issue there. Then the day before my daughter told me that the mum wasn't going to be there as she was having a night out in Manchester. So the girls would of been left with the bf who was having some mates round!!! I didn't let her go, nor did 2 of the others parent, she hated me for that but I think i made the right call!! I would have done the same. I think it's about circumstances. Mind you a mum I really trusted rang me one night to ask if it was ok to give our 14 year old son a Bacardi breezer ![]() ![]() | |||
"Depends how many other girls were going. Thinking about it I was in this situation about a year ago, my daughter would of been 12. She was invited to a sleepover with 3 other girls. The parents are split up but the mum has a new partner. No issue there. Then the day before my daughter told me that the mum wasn't going to be there as she was having a night out in Manchester. So the girls would of been left with the bf who was having some mates round!!! I didn't let her go, nor did 2 of the others parent, she hated me for that but I think i made the right call!! " ![]() | |||
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"I'd let my daughter sleep over at a female parents house not sure about a single guys and would definitely not let them sleep over at mine reason being I couldn't do with all the giggling and crap music" Tell me about it. I used to dislike sleepovers intensely. | |||
"If only people realised that women are just as dangerous as men, sometimes more so ![]() This is true. 10 years in child protection showed me this. Not so much the abuse, more the ignoring, encouraging, and grooming. Just as bad and just as dangerous. | |||
"I've 3 daughters..all adults now, they used to very often have friends over night.. I wouldn't have dreamt of leaving them all with a partner, no matter how long we'd been together etc.. it's a trust thing with friends parents.. and works both ways " Why on earth would you be with a partner that on some level, you suspect is a paedophile ![]() | |||
"I can hear it now. Kid stays over at single dad's house. Kid comes home. Parent "did he touch you?" Kid "Well I got stuck in my pyjama top so he helped me" Parent ... calls police with wild accusations of abuse. Dear honest, caring fathers who'll treat other people's kids no different from their own. On behalf of other parents who treat other people's children in the same manner as they do their own offspring, as that's what we hope will happen when you trust your child into another person's care.... I apologise. It's all a bit shit really isn't it. " another reason why as a responsible make I wouldn't put myself in this position | |||
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"This relates to girlie sleepovers; I’m looking for views on a specific element. Let’s say you have a daughter late primary to mid secondary school age. She’s announced she’s going for a sleepover:- A To a friend whose parents are separated and the sleepover is at the Mum’s house B As above but at the Dad’s house Let’s say that sleepovers are allowed as that’s not what I’m looking for views on Would you be happy with your daughter going to either sleepover? Men - would you host a sleepover for your daughter and her friends? " I brought up three kids as a single parent. They quite often invited friends to sleepover. Usually a couple max, unless the tent was up in the garden (it could cope easily with five or six). If any other parent had an issue, it wasn't apparent to me. | |||
"I've 3 daughters..all adults now, they used to very often have friends over night.. I wouldn't have dreamt of leaving them all with a partner, no matter how long we'd been together etc.. it's a trust thing with friends parents.. and works both ways Why on earth would you be with a partner that on some level, you suspect is a paedophile ![]() where did I say I suspected any partner of being a paedophile? ![]() | |||
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"This relates to girlie sleepovers; I’m looking for views on a specific element. Let’s say you have a daughter late primary to mid secondary school age. She’s announced she’s going for a sleepover:- A To a friend whose parents are separated and the sleepover is at the Mum’s house B As above but at the Dad’s house Let’s say that sleepovers are allowed as that’s not what I’m looking for views on Would you be happy with your daughter going to either sleepover? Men - would you host a sleepover for your daughter and her friends? " ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
"This relates to girlie sleepovers; I’m looking for views on a specific element. Let’s say you have a daughter late primary to mid secondary school age. She’s announced she’s going for a sleepover:- A To a friend whose parents are separated and the sleepover is at the Mum’s house B As above but at the Dad’s house Let’s say that sleepovers are allowed as that’s not what I’m looking for views on Would you be happy with your daughter going to either sleepover? Men - would you host a sleepover for your daughter and her friends? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Lol. Our daughter wasn't allowed them in term time even at weekends. The fallout of a sleepless night lasted all week. She was allowed to stay with certain families in the school holidays. You'd be amazed how many parents tried to change my mind on this as if I was somehow various bad mother. Our daughter wasn't massively happy but she knew it was a boundary we'd set and reluctantly accepted it. | |||
"I've 3 daughters..all adults now, they used to very often have friends over night.. I wouldn't have dreamt of leaving them all with a partner, no matter how long we'd been together etc.. it's a trust thing with friends parents.. and works both ways Why on earth would you be with a partner that on some level, you suspect is a paedophile ![]() ![]() So why wouldn't you dream of leaving your girls with a partner, what are you worried about? | |||
"One thing to remember is also, not all adults are good role models. Both our kids went to a few sleep-overs with good friends of ours as chaperones, turns out our friends were pretty lax on things like underage drinking etc, our two usually ended up being the most responsible people there lol. ![]() I think this is another element. Trusting your children to be honest with you and to do the right thing even when you're not there. A key right of passage for any child. | |||
"I was raised by a single Dad, he was amazing, but paranoid about peoples attitudes" This is the exact reason why I have always refused to host sleepovers in the past, when my daughters have asked. I feel most parents would deem it inappropriate for a single dad to be supervising their kids overnight. To be fair, I would be the exact same, if the situation was reversed. Unfortunately, it’s not something you can easily explain to the kids - so you end up making excuses and they end up disappointed, regardless ![]() | |||
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"I was raised by a single Dad, he was amazing, but paranoid about peoples attitudes This is the exact reason why I have always refused to host sleepovers in the past, when my daughters have asked. I feel most parents would deem it inappropriate for a single dad to be supervising their kids overnight. To be fair, I would be the exact same, if the situation was reversed. Unfortunately, it’s not something you can easily explain to the kids - so you end up making excuses and they end up disappointed, regardless ![]() Why though. Are you happy that people would think that of you as a single dad? What if it was a couple and the mum decide to go out that night? | |||
"I've 3 daughters..all adults now, they used to very often have friends over night.. I wouldn't have dreamt of leaving them all with a partner, no matter how long we'd been together etc.. it's a trust thing with friends parents.. and works both ways Why on earth would you be with a partner that on some level, you suspect is a paedophile ![]() ![]() i wasnt worried about leaving my girls with my partner (not their dad) i never said i was.. i wouldnt have their friends over, then sod off out is what i said | |||
"This relates to girlie sleepovers; I’m looking for views on a specific element. Let’s say you have a daughter late primary to mid secondary school age. She’s announced she’s going for a sleepover:- A To a friend whose parents are separated and the sleepover is at the Mum’s house B As above but at the Dad’s house Let’s say that sleepovers are allowed as that’s not what I’m looking for views on Would you be happy with your daughter going to either sleepover? Men - would you host a sleepover for your daughter and her friends? " Yes, my daughter always has sleepovers, why would it be any different for dad’s than mums. Are you suggesting that no dad can be trusted with other parents kids? | |||
"This relates to girlie sleepovers; I’m looking for views on a specific element. Let’s say you have a daughter late primary to mid secondary school age. She’s announced she’s going for a sleepover:- A To a friend whose parents are separated and the sleepover is at the Mum’s house B As above but at the Dad’s house Let’s say that sleepovers are allowed as that’s not what I’m looking for views on Would you be happy with your daughter going to either sleepover? Men - would you host a sleepover for your daughter and her friends? Yes, my daughter always has sleepovers, why would it be any different for dad’s than mums. Are you suggesting that no dad can be trusted with other parents kids? " No, I was asking for views not making suggestions or giving an opinion | |||
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"Why though. Are you happy that people would think that of you as a single dad? What if it was a couple and the mum decide to go out that night? " I might be completely wrong about this (and genuinely hope I am) but I just get the feeling that most parents would think twice about leaving their daughters under the supervision of a male stranger overnight? | |||
"Why though. Are you happy that people would think that of you as a single dad? What if it was a couple and the mum decide to go out that night? I might be completely wrong about this (and genuinely hope I am) but I just get the feeling that most parents would think twice about leaving their daughters under the supervision of a male stranger overnight?" Depends if they based decisions on facts or feelings | |||
"Why though. Are you happy that people would think that of you as a single dad? What if it was a couple and the mum decide to go out that night? I might be completely wrong about this (and genuinely hope I am) but I just get the feeling that most parents would think twice about leaving their daughters under the supervision of a male stranger overnight?" I wouldn’t leave my children with a stranger of either sex. It’s not about gender for me, it is about how well I think I know the parents and making that judgement call based on what I see and know. Whatever gender I will have the same thought process. | |||
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