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Do vegetarians exist any more?
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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You know the type... "I was horrified when I saw videos about the brutality of our meat industry. So I became a vegetarian... Anyone fancy a cheesy omelette with a nice warm latte?"
Was that just something naive people did before veganism came along and reminded them dairy is a key part of the meat industry?
Can we just talk about meat eaters and vegans now and forget about the whole vegetarian thing? Or is there still a place for it? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Especially vegetarians that eat fish! Whats that all about? "
That's nothing. I once had a friend who refused to eat sentient life forms. But she decided for some reason that prawns weren't sentient  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I'm a vegetarian, I think it's easier then being a vegan although I occasionally consider the latter. I can't remember why I became a vegetarian but these days environmental considerations would probably be a factor.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I’m lacto-ovo. All eggs I buy are free range, milk - well I ain’t perfect. Would the vegans rather I ate meat? Gorge on veal and foie gras? If so they can fuck off  |
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No they do not. I know a lovely vegetarian but she still loves a good nibble on some pork sword but then it’s straight back to the butternut squash. Which isn’t too bad as I’ve tried it myself but it’s a bit big for me personally |
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"Milk isn't part of the meat industry? 
What do you think happens to all those calves who should be suckling that milk instead of you? "
They are a 'by-product' of the dairy industry - I wish they were raised for meat, most are slaughtered before they have any value for meat.  |
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"You know the type... "I was horrified when I saw videos about the brutality of our meat industry. So I became a vegetarian... Anyone fancy a cheesy omelette with a nice warm latte?"
Was that just something naive people did before veganism came along and reminded them dairy is a key part of the meat industry?
Can we just talk about meat eaters and vegans now and forget about the whole vegetarian thing? Or is there still a place for it?"
I don't think it as simple as you're trying to present it.
There are still probably twice as many vegetarians than there are vegans in this country, veganism is very much on trend right now.
If you eat dairy products you are at least not eating the flesh of an animal.
Additionally not all vegans or veggies choose their diets for moral reasons, for some people it's a a health or fitness issue and for others it's simply a following the latest trend or conforming to the expected behaviour of a certain group within society.
Neither a vegetarian or vegan diet will completely eliminate your impact on the environment/living creatures.
With all due respect there will always be a place for vegetarianism, some people will use it as a step on the road the being a vegan and others will have different motivations.
I personally eat any old thing as I have no self control but I could understand why someone might not want to eat meat but would still want to eat dairy.
After all lots of fruit and is pollinated using bees which aren't free to roam and instead are transported to the growing fields in trucks. This means that like honey there is an ethical dilemma for vegans but as I said earlier you can only reduce harm and not eliminate it.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"You know the type... "I was horrified when I saw videos about the brutality of our meat industry. So I became a vegetarian."
This was one of my best friends for years then all of a sudden she became the biggest carnivore I know |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"If you eat dairy products you are at least not eating the flesh of an animal."
If you killed an animal I'd imagine it would be more ethical to eat its body and use its mother's milk... rather than just use its mother's milk and toss its body away |
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"If you eat dairy products you are at least not eating the flesh of an animal.
If you killed an animal I'd imagine it would be more ethical to eat its body and use its mother's milk... rather than just use its mother's milk and toss its body away "
But cows milk is for baby cows,not humans. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Milk isn't part of the meat industry?
What do you think happens to all those calves who should be suckling that milk instead of you?
They are a 'by-product' of the dairy industry - I wish they were raised for meat, most are slaughtered before they have any value for meat. "
This sounds even worse Frisky But are you telling me that the calves that are reared for meat get to suckle from their mother? My understanding was that the two were very much entwined: that the calves who are reared for meat are taken from their mother's who are milked |
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By *mp411Man
over a year ago
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"Milk isn't part of the meat industry?
What do you think happens to all those calves who should be suckling that milk instead of you?
They are a 'by-product' of the dairy industry - I wish they were raised for meat, most are slaughtered before they have any value for meat. "
It’s called veal and it’s very tasty so is bambi and a whole host of cute furry critters  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I think the main difference is that a vegan won't wear or use any products made with any part of an animal. This includes leather shoes, bags etc whereas the vegetarian is more likely to.
I wonder if there's an opening in the market for vegan friendly whips and restraints  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I think the main difference is that a vegan won't wear or use any products made with any part of an animal. This includes leather shoes, bags etc whereas the vegetarian is more likely to.
I wonder if there's an opening in the market for vegan friendly whips and restraints "
See for me there's a simple choice. Either you try not to kill an animal. Or if you do then you should really make use of absolutely every part of that animal you can. If only out of respect. I don't equate anything in between with being more ethical than either of those |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I gave up meat to see if I felt healthier and i did ,animal welfare didn't play any role in my decision .I now only eat fish and vegetables.Most of the fish I eat in summer I catch and dispatch myself .Got a freezer full of fish .Its much better fresh though.I haven't even missed bacon surprisingly. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Milk isn't part of the meat industry?
What do you think happens to all those calves who should be suckling that milk instead of you?
They are a 'by-product' of the dairy industry - I wish they were raised for meat, most are slaughtered before they have any value for meat.
This sounds even worse Frisky But are you telling me that the calves that are reared for meat get to suckle from their mother? My understanding was that the two were very much entwined: that the calves who are reared for meat are taken from their mother's who are milked "
Male calves bred from dairy cows are taken away and used for veal production |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Milk isn't part of the meat industry?
What do you think happens to all those calves who should be suckling that milk instead of you?
They are a 'by-product' of the dairy industry - I wish they were raised for meat, most are slaughtered before they have any value for meat.
This sounds even worse Frisky But are you telling me that the calves that are reared for meat get to suckle from their mother? My understanding was that the two were very much entwined: that the calves who are reared for meat are taken from their mother's who are milked
Male calves bred from dairy cows are taken away and used for veal production "
Thanks Kinky  That's what I thought |
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By *tirluvMan
over a year ago
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"Milk isn't part of the meat industry?
What do you think happens to all those calves who should be suckling that milk instead of you?
They are a 'by-product' of the dairy industry - I wish they were raised for meat, most are slaughtered before they have any value for meat.
It’s called veal and it’s very tasty so is bambi and a whole host of cute furry critters "
I suggest you have a chat with yournearest dairy farmer then -them carcasses sure as hell don't end up in landfill when tinkerbell finally pops her clogs (hint: farmer eats some -the rest gets sold as either sub prime beef, animal feed, petfood, gelatin production etc.) |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Especially vegetarians that eat fish! Whats that all about? "
Pescatarian..
Im vegetarian btw lol yes we do exist no im not giving up cheese i tried veganism and it aint fot me. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I was veggie at University but every time I went home my mum still did me a roast dinner and didn’t understand it at all.
I rarely eat meat but do love fish. I honestly couldn’t imagine being vegan as that seems really basic to me, to the point we had someone at work who is vegan and wanted a sandwich and we honestly didn’t know what to put in it! |
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"I was veggie at University but every time I went home my mum still did me a roast dinner and didn’t understand it at all.
I rarely eat meat but do love fish. I honestly couldn’t imagine being vegan as that seems really basic to me, to the point we had someone at work who is vegan and wanted a sandwich and we honestly didn’t know what to put in it! "
My son is vegan (grown up teen so his choice) and eats all kinds in his sarnies but one of his faves is coronation chickpeas. The sauce made from blitzed silken tofu and curryspices. Keeps a while in the fridge and is really tasty
Be aware if feeding a vegan though that not all quorn products are vegan. All vegetarian but not vegan.....  |
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"Milk isn't part of the meat industry?
What do you think happens to all those calves who should be suckling that milk instead of you?
They are a 'by-product' of the dairy industry - I wish they were raised for meat, most are slaughtered before they have any value for meat.
This sounds even worse Frisky But are you telling me that the calves that are reared for meat get to suckle from their mother? My understanding was that the two were very much entwined: that the calves who are reared for meat are taken from their mother's who are milked
Male calves bred from dairy cows are taken away and used for veal production
Thanks Kinky That's what I thought "
Veal is also tasty and nutritious |
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"Milk isn't part of the meat industry?
What do you think happens to all those calves who should be suckling that milk instead of you?
They are a 'by-product' of the dairy industry - I wish they were raised for meat, most are slaughtered before they have any value for meat.
This sounds even worse Frisky But are you telling me that the calves that are reared for meat get to suckle from their mother? My understanding was that the two were very much entwined: that the calves who are reared for meat are taken from their mother's who are milked
Male calves bred from dairy cows are taken away and used for veal production
Thanks Kinky That's what I thought
Veal is also tasty and nutritious "
Nuts are tasty and nutritious
Sweet potatoes are tasty and nutritious
Tomatoes are tasty and nutritious
Chillies are tasty and nutritious
Garlic is tasty and nutritious
Coriander is tasty and nutritious
Ok so you know something that is tasty and nutritious , do you have a point or are you trying to be facetious on a vegetarianism thread ?
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After all lots of fruit and is pollinated using bees which aren't free to roam and instead are transported to the growing fields in trucks. This means that like honey there is an ethical dilemma for vegans but as I said earlier you can only reduce harm and not eliminate it.
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I really find that extraordinary. I saw programme where articulated lorries full of bee hives literally parked up in the Scottish Highlands and the bees then feasted on the heather ... I thought it was great and thought of them being on their holidays...
Is it possible that bees do not like a nomadic lifestyle and would be much happier staying at home in an area they know,? |
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"Milk isn't part of the meat industry?
What do you think happens to all those calves who should be suckling that milk instead of you?
They are a 'by-product' of the dairy industry - I wish they were raised for meat, most are slaughtered before they have any value for meat.
This sounds even worse Frisky But are you telling me that the calves that are reared for meat get to suckle from their mother? My understanding was that the two were very much entwined: that the calves who are reared for meat are taken from their mother's who are milked
Male calves bred from dairy cows are taken away and used for veal production
Thanks Kinky That's what I thought
Veal is also tasty and nutritious
Nuts are tasty and nutritious
Sweet potatoes are tasty and nutritious
Tomatoes are tasty and nutritious
Chillies are tasty and nutritious
Garlic is tasty and nutritious
Coriander is tasty and nutritious
Ok so you know something that is tasty and nutritious , do you have a point or are you trying to be facetious on a vegetarianism thread ?
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Eh it’s also a meat eaters thread if you read the initial one..
Yeah I love sweet potatoes, lovely with some garlic and herb chicken, tasty and nutritious |
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"You know the type... "I was horrified when I saw videos about the brutality of our meat industry. So I became a vegetarian... Anyone fancy a cheesy omelette with a nice warm latte?"
Was that just something naive people did before veganism came along and reminded them dairy is a key part of the meat industry?
Can we just talk about meat eaters and vegans now and forget about the whole vegetarian thing? Or is there still a place for it?"
Apparently 12% are vegetarians now well thats what the news is claiming today. |
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"You know the type... "I was horrified when I saw videos about the brutality of our meat industry. So I became a vegetarian... Anyone fancy a cheesy omelette with a nice warm latte?"
Was that just something naive people did before veganism came along and reminded them dairy is a key part of the meat industry?
Can we just talk about meat eaters and vegans now and forget about the whole vegetarian thing? Or is there still a place for it?
Apparently 12% are vegetarians now well thats what the news is claiming today. "
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"If you eat dairy products you are at least not eating the flesh of an animal.
If you killed an animal I'd imagine it would be more ethical to eat its body and use its mother's milk... rather than just use its mother's milk and toss its body away "
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Especially vegetarians that eat fish! Whats that all about?
They are called pescetarians that's why you don't get what it's all about  haha"
I know exactly what a pescatarian is thank you - the point is fish is meat, surely? Just an underwater variety. Its still the flesh of a living creature. |
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Well just to be difficult, when bse hit I decided as a child to stop eating anything with four legs(I wanted to go vegetarian but made a compromise with my mum), so now I eat fish, chicken and turkey mainly.
I don't class myself as anything but bloody difficult to feed lol
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