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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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I’m a little confused....
In America a social is called a munch.... people meet in a restaurant/bar and pay for whatever they eat or drink.....
Why should the organizers make a profit? |
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By *r.BlondeMan
over a year ago
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"I’m a little confused....
In America a social is called a munch.... people meet in a restaurant/bar and pay for whatever they eat or drink.....
Why should the organizers make a profit?"
Maybe if they have hired a venue. |
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"I’m a little confused....
In America a social is called a munch.... people meet in a restaurant/bar and pay for whatever they eat or drink.....
Why should the organizers make a profit?"
Why should they eat or drink for free? |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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here then it is slightly different...
when i organised socials.... i only use to charge to cover overheads... such as room hire, dj (if needed) paying for the spread if i had put on food ect.....
any other money if there was any left over always went to charity and some to bar staff for putting up with our rabble...
i also made a point of being transparent where if there were any overheads anyone could see any reciepts.. and anything that was given to charity...
i don't think a social should be a business oppotunity.. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Only time I've ever paid to attend an event has been if it has been at a club with an admission fee or like Fabio said above a nominal amount to cover venue hire.
That said if an organiser made enough to cover their drinks or hotel room for the night I would have no qualms for that in view of the work put in. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"why wouldn't you pay for what you have eaten? or am i missing something"
During a social everyone has separate checks and pays for whatever they eat or drink.....
It’s usually just 2-4 tables in the back of a bar/restaurant....
I don’t understand why I should pay $5-$10 dollars for someone calling a restaurant and reserving 2-4 tables... it takes 5 minutes |
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By *r.BlondeMan
over a year ago
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"why wouldn't you pay for what you have eaten? or am i missing something
During a social everyone has separate checks and pays for whatever they eat or drink.....
It’s usually just 2-4 tables in the back of a bar/restaurant....
I don’t understand why I should pay $5-$10 dollars for someone calling a restaurant and reserving 2-4 tables... it takes 5 minutes "
You get to network an meet people you possibly wouldn't though. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"why wouldn't you pay for what you have eaten? or am i missing something
During a social everyone has separate checks and pays for whatever they eat or drink.....
It’s usually just 2-4 tables in the back of a bar/restaurant....
I don’t understand why I should pay $5-$10 dollars for someone calling a restaurant and reserving 2-4 tables... it takes 5 minutes "
Then organise yoyur own events? |
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"why wouldn't you pay for what you have eaten? or am i missing something
During a social everyone has separate checks and pays for whatever they eat or drink.....
It’s usually just 2-4 tables in the back of a bar/restaurant....
I don’t understand why I should pay $5-$10 dollars for someone calling a restaurant and reserving 2-4 tables... it takes 5 minutes "
Maybe they had to pay a deposit |
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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"why wouldn't you pay for what you have eaten? or am i missing something
During a social everyone has separate checks and pays for whatever they eat or drink.....
It’s usually just 2-4 tables in the back of a bar/restaurant....
I don’t understand why I should pay $5-$10 dollars for someone calling a restaurant and reserving 2-4 tables... it takes 5 minutes "
Did that pay for any of your food, ie a deposit each? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I hire a venue. I pay for the DJ. The door staff and the bar staff.
Therefore I ask for a small contribution to cover the costs
I don't make any money at all out of it.
The social I have arranged for November is currently owing me roughly £150.00p leaving me out of pocket.
Are you saying that's fair?
And a munch here is what people who uses specific fetish site call there gatherings (usualy) |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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And then add in the time it takes contacting everyone who has expressed an interest in coming sending out messages etc. It's not just a simple
"ringing and booking 2 - 4 tables"
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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I think there is some confusion on this thread....
Forgive me.....
If a social has a DJ, drinks , and food without any on premise sexual play....
That is called a off premise swinging party in the states..... This is a party and I can understand charging...
A social/munch/pub crawl is usually everyone meeting up after work to have a few drinks. It’s usually only for about 2 hours..... |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"why wouldn't you pay for what you have eaten? or am i missing something
During a social everyone has separate checks and pays for whatever they eat or drink.....
It’s usually just 2-4 tables in the back of a bar/restaurant....
I don’t understand why I should pay $5-$10 dollars for someone calling a restaurant and reserving 2-4 tables... it takes 5 minutes
Then organise yoyur own events?"
Did I twist your ganzi?
Not everyone is so versed with swinging in the UK |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"why wouldn't you pay for what you have eaten? or am i missing something
During a social everyone has separate checks and pays for whatever they eat or drink.....
It’s usually just 2-4 tables in the back of a bar/restaurant....
I don’t understand why I should pay $5-$10 dollars for someone calling a restaurant and reserving 2-4 tables... it takes 5 minutes
Then organise yoyur own events?
Did I twist your ganzi?
Not everyone is so versed with swinging in the UK"
I;m not sure what a ganzi is or how you;d twist it 
If you don't want to pay to go to munches then surely the choices are obvious. Don't go. Go to ones that don't charge (guessing that's not an option). Organise your own free events.
If the status quo in America is to charge then I'm not sure what else can be suggested? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"If you're unhappy with the cost contribution etc.. it's your choice to attend or not , I attend a few socials last I attended a charge contribution of £5 was asked for to cover costs."
You and bike monkey are hilarious.....
Every single guy asking for advice on getting a meet on the forums are advised to go to a group social or club....
With the amount of single guys on this site....
I can see people organizing socials for financial gain and being predatory to unverified single guys.....
One poster said She is negative $150 from organizing a social.....
Why would someone spend money and not try to make a profit?
Please forgive me .... I don’t run into altruistic people in the business world... |
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"If you're unhappy with the cost contribution etc.. it's your choice to attend or not , I attend a few socials last I attended a charge contribution of £5 was asked for to cover costs.
You and bike monkey are hilarious.....
Every single guy asking for advice on getting a meet on the forums are advised to go to a group social or club....
With the amount of single guys on this site....
I can see people organizing socials for financial gain and being predatory to unverified single guys.....
One poster said She is negative $150 from organizing a social.....
Why would someone spend money and not try to make a profit?
Please forgive me .... I don’t run into altruistic people in the business world..."
She sounds like an idiot then. You can have an organised social in a pub for free. People buy their own drinks. If mem are so desperate to pay then some wolf will fleece them if they allow that to happen. A fool and his money don’t stay together for long. |
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What we have here is a confusion over the word "social"
the American = drinks and a meal, pay for what you eat and drink.
U.K. an organised party in a hired hall or room with a DJ pay, to cover costs |
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By *r.BlondeMan
over a year ago
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"If you're unhappy with the cost contribution etc.. it's your choice to attend or not , I attend a few socials last I attended a charge contribution of £5 was asked for to cover costs.
You and bike monkey are hilarious.....
Every single guy asking for advice on getting a meet on the forums are advised to go to a group social or club....
With the amount of single guys on this site....
I can see people organizing socials for financial gain and being predatory to unverified single guys.....
One poster said She is negative $150 from organizing a social.....
Why would someone spend money and not try to make a profit?
Please forgive me .... I don’t run into altruistic people in the business world..."
£5-£10 ain't gonna break the bank. It's these organised gangbangs charging £80 quid a pop for sloppy 10ths that are gonna get the unverified single guys.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"If you're unhappy with the cost contribution etc.. it's your choice to attend or not , I attend a few socials last I attended a charge contribution of £5 was asked for to cover costs.
You and bike monkey are hilarious.....
Every single guy asking for advice on getting a meet on the forums are advised to go to a group social or club....
With the amount of single guys on this site....
I can see people organizing socials for financial gain and being predatory to unverified single guys.....
One poster said She is negative $150 from organizing a social.....
Why would someone spend money and not try to make a profit?
Please forgive me .... I don’t run into altruistic people in the business world..."
I might be hilarious but I've also been to more swinging socials and kink munches than I can remember and even organised a few socials.
I'm honestly not sure what advice you are seeking or the point you are trying to make. It seems to have gone from a grumble that events should be free to a hypothetical scenario of events being organised to rip off singke men and that organisers run events as a business and not to give back to he scene |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"If you're unhappy with the cost contribution etc.. it's your choice to attend or not , I attend a few socials last I attended a charge contribution of £5 was asked for to cover costs.
You and bike monkey are hilarious.....
Every single guy asking for advice on getting a meet on the forums are advised to go to a group social or club....
With the amount of single guys on this site....
I can see people organizing socials for financial gain and being predatory to unverified single guys.....
One poster said She is negative $150 from organizing a social.....
Why would someone spend money and not try to make a profit?
Please forgive me .... I don’t run into altruistic people in the business world..."
Why don't you check out my post in UK forum and have a look at it.
Then you will see the list of people who express an interest in comparison to who actually attend. You say it's a business. Explain how when it's ran once a year? Be some social that for me to make a living off wouldn't it?? Like seriously how many people would need to attend for me to live on that as an income for an entire year? That's the purpose of a business isn't it? To be able to live of the earnings it makes?
Maybe you should speak to the organisers and people who have attended previous events to get a grasp of why they take the time and the risks with there own finances around arranging a social event and attending them too. |
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By *iss.RedWoman
over a year ago
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"If you're unhappy with the cost contribution etc.. it's your choice to attend or not , I attend a few socials last I attended a charge contribution of £5 was asked for to cover costs.
You and bike monkey are hilarious.....
Every single guy asking for advice on getting a meet on the forums are advised to go to a group social or club....
With the amount of single guys on this site....
I can see people organizing socials for financial gain and being predatory to unverified single guys.....
One poster said She is negative $150 from organizing a social.....
Why would someone spend money and not try to make a profit?
Please forgive me .... I don’t run into altruistic people in the business world...
She sounds like an idiot then. You can have an organised social in a pub for free. People buy their own drinks. If mem are so desperate to pay then some wolf will fleece them if they allow that to happen. A fool and his money don’t stay together for long. "
Harsh calling her an idiot. She was actually just explaining why there is a charge for some socials as for her next one she's spent £150 which I imagine she'll recoup with a nominal charge |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"What we have here is a confusion over the word "social"
the American = drinks and a meal, pay for what you eat and drink.
U.K. an organised party in a hired hall or room with a DJ pay, to cover costs"
I wouldn't call that a social. It's an event. |
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"If you're unhappy with the cost contribution etc.. it's your choice to attend or not , I attend a few socials last I attended a charge contribution of £5 was asked for to cover costs.
You and bike monkey are hilarious.....
Every single guy asking for advice on getting a meet on the forums are advised to go to a group social or club....
With the amount of single guys on this site....
I can see people organizing socials for financial gain and being predatory to unverified single guys.....
One poster said She is negative $150 from organizing a social.....
Why would someone spend money and not try to make a profit?
Please forgive me .... I don’t run into altruistic people in the business world...
She sounds like an idiot then. You can have an organised social in a pub for free. People buy their own drinks. If mem are so desperate to pay then some wolf will fleece them if they allow that to happen. A fool and his money don’t stay together for long.
Harsh calling her an idiot. She was actually just explaining why there is a charge for some socials as for her next one she's spent £150 which I imagine she'll recoup with a nominal charge"
Right, I’ve actually read the thread (god knows why cos I’m watching a film) but in the UK, a social is usually just an informal free to attend meet up in a bar or cafe or pub, an organised social is more organised with more people and more often than not, free to attend. She is an idiot if she made a loss. It means her business plan was flawed. It means her costs were higher than her income. I have no intention of ever paying to attend a social simply because I don’t need to.
I’m not exactly certain what point you’re trying to make. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"What we have here is a confusion over the word "social"
the American = drinks and a meal, pay for what you eat and drink.
U.K. an organised party in a hired hall or room with a DJ pay, to cover costs"
There are plenty of socials in the UK that meet your first description. Not every social is a big one with multiple forum threads and huge attendance lists |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I’m always happy to contribute to social events, they take a lot of arranging for the decent ones.
But I do like to see what i’m Paying for so yes for transparency!
Oh and a gorgeously home made cake goes a long way to making a social amazing rather than buying them in and saying you made them! |
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By *good-being-badMan
over a year ago
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"If you're unhappy with the cost contribution etc.. it's your choice to attend or not , I attend a few socials last I attended a charge contribution of £5 was asked for to cover costs.
You and bike monkey are hilarious.....
Every single guy asking for advice on getting a meet on the forums are advised to go to a group social or club....
With the amount of single guys on this site....
I can see people organizing socials for financial gain and being predatory to unverified single guys.....
One poster said She is negative $150 from organizing a social.....
Why would someone spend money and not try to make a profit?
Please forgive me .... I don’t run into altruistic people in the business world..."
How is my post hilarious ?
If you're unhappy with the charge the organiser is making the choice is yours attend or not ?
Advice is one thing it's up-to the person whether they take that advice ..they have a choice accept it or ignore it .
The socials I attend have a strict numbers limit on guys attending so it doesn't become a sausage fest.
I can imagine the organising deposits decorations etc will come at an initial cost hence the small contribution asked to cover those costs.
There are lots of philanthropic folk in business, maybe you're not meeting them ..there are though. 
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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So
If a social event with a DJ door staff etc was held in a club you would expect that to be free?
Or do you mean meet up with a few mates for a pint and a curry as a social?
I'm confused as to why your objecting to a small charge to pay for the cost of hiring a private function room. With entertainment and staff. We're everyone that attends is of a similar mind set and can network and meet new faces they normally wouldn't bump into. |
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By *iss.RedWoman
over a year ago
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"If you're unhappy with the cost contribution etc.. it's your choice to attend or not , I attend a few socials last I attended a charge contribution of £5 was asked for to cover costs.
You and bike monkey are hilarious.....
Every single guy asking for advice on getting a meet on the forums are advised to go to a group social or club....
With the amount of single guys on this site....
I can see people organizing socials for financial gain and being predatory to unverified single guys.....
One poster said She is negative $150 from organizing a social.....
Why would someone spend money and not try to make a profit?
Please forgive me .... I don’t run into altruistic people in the business world...
She sounds like an idiot then. You can have an organised social in a pub for free. People buy their own drinks. If mem are so desperate to pay then some wolf will fleece them if they allow that to happen. A fool and his money don’t stay together for long.
Harsh calling her an idiot. She was actually just explaining why there is a charge for some socials as for her next one she's spent £150 which I imagine she'll recoup with a nominal charge
Right, I’ve actually read the thread (god knows why cos I’m watching a film) but in the UK, a social is usually just an informal free to attend meet up in a bar or cafe or pub, an organised social is more organised with more people and more often than not, free to attend. She is an idiot if she made a loss. It means her business plan was flawed. It means her costs were higher than her income. I have no intention of ever paying to attend a social simply because I don’t need to.
I’m not exactly certain what point you’re trying to make. "
Yes I organise socials myself for up to 100 people so know what they entail.
My understanding of her post was not that she'd lost money, that was her costs and hence an explanation of why a charge to attend was necessary |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"If you're unhappy with the cost contribution etc.. it's your choice to attend or not , I attend a few socials last I attended a charge contribution of £5 was asked for to cover costs.
You and bike monkey are hilarious.....
Every single guy asking for advice on getting a meet on the forums are advised to go to a group social or club....
With the amount of single guys on this site....
I can see people organizing socials for financial gain and being predatory to unverified single guys.....
One poster said She is negative $150 from organizing a social.....
Why would someone spend money and not try to make a profit?
Please forgive me .... I don’t run into altruistic people in the business world...
She sounds like an idiot then. You can have an organised social in a pub for free. People buy their own drinks. If mem are so desperate to pay then some wolf will fleece them if they allow that to happen. A fool and his money don’t stay together for long.
Harsh calling her an idiot. She was actually just explaining why there is a charge for some socials as for her next one she's spent £150 which I imagine she'll recoup with a nominal charge
Right, I’ve actually read the thread (god knows why cos I’m watching a film) but in the UK, a social is usually just an informal free to attend meet up in a bar or cafe or pub, an organised social is more organised with more people and more often than not, free to attend. She is an idiot if she made a loss. It means her business plan was flawed. It means her costs were higher than her income. I have no intention of ever paying to attend a social simply because I don’t need to.
I’m not exactly certain what point you’re trying to make. "
Right twice now you have called me an idiot. The first time I let it go.
What's your problem with me? It's not the first thread were you have been clever towards something I have said? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"If you're unhappy with the cost contribution etc.. it's your choice to attend or not , I attend a few socials last I attended a charge contribution of £5 was asked for to cover costs.
You and bike monkey are hilarious.....
Every single guy asking for advice on getting a meet on the forums are advised to go to a group social or club....
With the amount of single guys on this site....
I can see people organizing socials for financial gain and being predatory to unverified single guys.....
One poster said She is negative $150 from organizing a social.....
Why would someone spend money and not try to make a profit?
Please forgive me .... I don’t run into altruistic people in the business world...
I might be hilarious but I've also been to more swinging socials and kink munches than I can remember and even organised a few socials.
I'm honestly not sure what advice you are seeking or the point you are trying to make. It seems to have gone from a grumble that events should be free to a hypothetical scenario of events being organised to rip off singke men and that organisers run events as a business and not to give back to he scene"
You know why I love the internet..... it’s because I can interact with people and learn something new.....
On a popular site or this site.... I can organize a social munch In seconds.....
We are meeting at the Hotel Bar at the Marriott Marquee in Midtown Manhattan at 4 pm before heading down to the Halloween parade in the west village......
On Halloween Depending on how many people show up to the bar. I can decide to get a table or just have everyone socialize at the bar...
I didn’t have to leave a deposit nor do I have to reserve a separate room ......
This how I have done it for as long as I have organized socials and gangbangs...
I didn’t every charge a soul or would never put up my personal money .......
So your comment was cheeky because you’re acting like $5-$10 is the problem....
What I now realize is these socials are really party’s and a all night affair.......
To the host , I wasn’t having a dog at you....
I thought your social was like a happy hour at a pub....
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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"If you're unhappy with the cost contribution etc.. it's your choice to attend or not , I attend a few socials last I attended a charge contribution of £5 was asked for to cover costs."
What were the costs do you know? I think the OP is talking about a meet up in a pub without any costs |
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"We've never paid to attend one."
I was cajoled out of 2 quid for a raffle ticket at the last Manc Social that I attended. I should have waited for the next strip as that was won. I'm still waiting to hear back from the Trading Standards Authority..... |
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By *iss.RedWoman
over a year ago
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"We've never paid to attend one.
I was cajoled out of 2 quid for a raffle ticket at the last Manc Social that I attended. I should have waited for the next strip as that was won. I'm still waiting to hear back from the Trading Standards Authority..... "
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I have been to a few of the Brighton socials, the ones I visited were in a bar or pub and you paid for you own drinks.
I do know they put on a few party events, they asked a reasonable fee for attendees. I was working when these went on, but I heard they were top notch. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"We've never paid to attend one.
I was cajoled out of 2 quid for a raffle ticket at the last Manc Social that I attended. I should have waited for the next strip as that was won. I'm still waiting to hear back from the Trading Standards Authority..... "
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By *good-being-badMan
over a year ago
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"If you're unhappy with the cost contribution etc.. it's your choice to attend or not , I attend a few socials last I attended a charge contribution of £5 was asked for to cover costs.
What were the costs do you know? I think the OP is talking about a meet up in a pub without any costs"
Haven't got a breakdown.. dj , door staff, venue hire (possibly free) decoration s for theme. |
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By *harpDressed ManMan
over a year ago
Here occasionally, but mostly somewhere else |
It seems to me that OP has allowed his US experience to colour his UK expectations.
We don't have the infrastructure of Manhatten in every town, nor the audience of swingers necessary to produce enough attendees, especially at short notice (if you get a dozen out of 10m in Manhatten, how many do you think that translates to in Coventry, pop 200k?) |
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I used to run a social. Was free to attend but my goodness the time I put in replying to messages, fielding stupid questions, dealing with asshats who expected a shag from it.... Could have charged a fiver and not made my money back on time |
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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"If you're unhappy with the cost contribution etc.. it's your choice to attend or not , I attend a few socials last I attended a charge contribution of £5 was asked for to cover costs.
What were the costs do you know? I think the OP is talking about a meet up in a pub without any costs
Haven't got a breakdown.. dj , door staff, venue hire (possibly free) decoration s for theme. "
In which case I don't think that is what the OP is talking about |
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By *etLikeMan
over a year ago
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I’m totally confused by this thread
A social can take many guises. The model you speak of can indeed be regarded as a munch. It’s just that the swing community tends not to call them that. The fet community holds munches and they involve reserving an area of a pub on a certain day of the month. The local ones I go to are well attended by regulars. Because of this high turnout, the bar is happy to rope off an area. If they had a lousy attendance, then the bar would risk losing trade from ordinary customers and may want to charge.
An organised social usually involves a function room. That might be offered free in the hope the venue can recoup their costs in the same way as above. However, attendance is not necessarily guaranteed at these events. Lots of, especially single guys, will say they’re going then not turn up. That’s why the venue and consequently the organisers of the event, may ask for an upfront deposit or contribution towards a buffet.
I’ve been to socials that didn’t charge a deposit and generally out of the 60+ single males who had said they were “definitely going” I’m one of about five. By charging a small amount (and any extra going towards food or charity) organisers don’t risk being the ones carrying the can of no shows and potentially being held personally liable for room deposits.
I can think of lots of business opportunities that are potentially a lot more profitable than running organised socials; where it can be like trying to herd cats. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I’m a little confused....
In America a social is called a munch.... people meet in a restaurant/bar and pay for whatever they eat or drink.....
Why should the organizers make a profit?"
entrepreneurs maybe, good looking sexy wife maybe, pimp maybe |
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If you are going to book 2-4 tables in a venue/resteraunt they will expect a deposit as that takes those tables out of service costing money.
Say only half actually turn up, the venue loses out 
just makes sence that you pay a deposit the are more likely to turn up |
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This has been an interesting read, as it's highlighted to me how swinging events have evolved differently in different countries.
Formats are different again here in Ireland.
The standard format for an Irish event is a Meet & Greet, which is essentially like a wedding reception without the dinner or top table... There will be a ballroom, band, dj afterwards, possibly a theme... There's always an entry fee to cover these costs (usually €20-€30 for a single and €30-€40 for a couple), and the guest lists will usually run to 200-350 guests, and the event will wind down around 2-3am. The attendance at these things is phenomenal... Waiting lists nearly as long as the guest list and people travel from all over the country (and further afield) to attend. They are usually booked under the guise of being a charity event so that hotel staff, etc., are unaware that it's a swingers event (although someone is more than likely going to dr*nkely let it slip during the course of the evening). There is no free bar, you buy your own drinks, nibbles may be provided.
A party is strictly a play event... Either at a private residence or club, you bring your own alcohol if desired.
The free social is actually a very rare thing in Ireland. I've attended and hosted a few. Much like in the UK, its a gathering in a reserved area of a local pub or hotel bar that also offers food if anyone wishes to eat. Daytime ones don't really work over here... I've tried them, but found that most people can't make it along until evening anyway due to work or family commitments. Out of 100 people, maybe only 20 of them will come along to the early part of the day, so when I'm organising one, I tend to look for pubs/bars that already have live music at night, to keep everyone entertained. There's no official end time to a social... Unless we're all still there when the pub closes 
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"why wouldn't you pay for what you have eaten? or am i missing something
During a social everyone has separate checks and pays for whatever they eat or drink.....
It’s usually just 2-4 tables in the back of a bar/restaurant....
I don’t understand why I should pay $5-$10 dollars for someone calling a restaurant and reserving 2-4 tables... it takes 5 minutes "
5 minutes?
If I were you I'd PM everyone who organises socials and offer your services. You'll be inundated either grateful acceptances.
Notwithstanding default option 1; If you don't like something, don't do it.
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"why wouldn't you pay for what you have eaten? or am i missing something
During a social everyone has separate checks and pays for whatever they eat or drink.....
It’s usually just 2-4 tables in the back of a bar/restaurant....
I don’t understand why I should pay $5-$10 dollars for someone calling a restaurant and reserving 2-4 tables... it takes 5 minutes
5 minutes?
If I were you I'd PM everyone who organises socials and offer your services. You'll be inundated *with their* grateful acceptances.
Notwithstanding default option 1; If you don't like something, don't do it.
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"why wouldn't you pay for what you have eaten? or am i missing something
During a social everyone has separate checks and pays for whatever they eat or drink.....
It’s usually just 2-4 tables in the back of a bar/restaurant....
I don’t understand why I should pay $5-$10 dollars for someone calling a restaurant and reserving 2-4 tables... it takes 5 minutes
5 minutes?
If I were you I'd PM everyone who organises socials and offer your services. You'll be inundated *with their* grateful acceptances.
Notwithstanding default option 1; If you don't like something, don't do it.
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" I don’t understand why I should pay $5-$10 dollars for someone calling a restaurant and reserving 2-4 tables... it takes 5 minutes "
Use your charm to meet all these delightful people, who are brought together by the hard work of the organiser, for free then, by not going. See how far you get! |
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Looks to me like a terminology issue .... I've been to free socials in a pub where you buy your own drinks. I've been to organised socials where you pay entry to cover the costs of a venue,dj etc. And I've been to some charity socials where you pay a fee to cover costs and any excess goes to charity. All of them were my choice to attend. I'm a firm believer in voting with your feet..... if you don't want to pay to enter something. Don't go. Simples |
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We held a mini party last weekend for a few single guys to meet Katie and a female friend.
We hired an apartment at the cost of £130 and provided food. We wanted six guys so invited 13. 5 turned up.
We didn't charge the guys anything and just asked them to bring a bottle. The reason being is that asking for money, even just to cover costs, creates expectations.
We can afford £130, and whilst appreciating that not everyone can, we find it less hassle to not ask for money. |
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"Looks to me like a terminology issue .... I've been to free socials in a pub where you buy your own drinks. I've been to organised socials where you pay entry to cover the costs of a venue,dj etc. And I've been to some charity socials where you pay a fee to cover costs and any excess goes to charity. All of them were my choice to attend. I'm a firm believer in voting with your feet..... if you don't want to pay to enter something. Don't go. Simples "
yes this and I've been to socials in night clubs , people's homes and pubs, only money involved is entry to club and what you want to drink I'm going to a social in Kettering soon will be fun |
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"I’m a little confused....
In America a social is called a munch.... people meet in a restaurant/bar and pay for whatever they eat or drink.....
Why should the organizers make a profit?"
Language semantics seem to be your biggest problem OP. A social in the UK can vary from 2 people having a coffee to 100+ in private hired space with entertainment. Costs and therefore prices vary accordingly.
I am sure the same applies in the USA, though they may use different names.
Bottom line is the organisers offer it up, the attendees choose to go along. |
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We are one of a few profiles in Scotland who organise socials. The money the organiser charges goes toward the venue, dj, buffet and little extras like decorating. Any monies left over get donated to charity with proof provided.
It’s a bit more than booking a few tables. Even the smaller drinks nights take a deposit which guests receive back in the form of a drink, this is to ensure people turn up as what tends to happen is a lot don’t which is unfair to people who wanted to come along and couldn’t as max numbers had been reached |
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What do people think about social organisers not asking for a fee but a contribution to a charity of their choice. A charity that you may not wish to support?
I guess the answer is you either pay or you don't go |
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"why wouldn't you pay for what you have eaten? or am i missing something
During a social everyone has separate checks and pays for whatever they eat or drink.....
It’s usually just 2-4 tables in the back of a bar/restaurant....
I don’t understand why I should pay $5-$10 dollars for someone calling a restaurant and reserving 2-4 tables... it takes 5 minutes
5 minutes?
If I were you I'd PM everyone who organises socials and offer your services. You'll be inundated *with their* grateful acceptances.
Notwithstanding default option 1; If you don't like something, don't do it.
stingy byron? "
Not really.
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over a year ago
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Right, I’ve actually read the thread (god knows why cos I’m watching a film) but in the UK, a social is usually just an informal free to attend meet up in a bar or cafe or pub, an organised social is more organised with more people and more often than not, free to attend. She is an idiot if she made a loss. It means her business plan was flawed. It means her costs were higher than her income. I have no intention of ever paying to attend a social simply because I don’t need to.
I’m not exactly certain what point you’re trying to make. "
actually.... the meaning of the word "social" has been co-opted... it was the other way round....
the original meaning of the "social" was the group event... non play in a vanilla enviroment, it was so people could network and get to know others...
no the term has been hijacked to mean any sort of meet...
oh, and to the question as to why people organise them... well, when i did the first newcastle event 10 years ago, it was a case of everyone grumbling as to why there were no events going on... but people not getting off their arses to do anything about it....
easy to complain... if everyone waited for someone else to do something, then nothing would get done! and no one else decided to step up... I did!!! I was the one who put my money and my time into it!!!
if 120 people swear blind they are going to turn up.. and on the night only 80 do... thats not the fault of the organiser who has put on stuff and figured they would cover so they aren't out of pocket!
when you put your own arse on the line, then you get to complain... until then.... no!
you should all the thank organisers for going out of their way to do this... its a thankless task at the best of time
would you rather complain about a social that charges a little too much.... or not have socials at all! |
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Isn’t a munch an agreed upon meeting place? Like your local pub or restaurant. Not sure the venue would neccessarily know the purpose of the gathering... or I might be wrong?? |
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"Isn’t a munch an agreed upon meeting place? Like your local pub or restaurant. Not sure the venue would neccessarily know the purpose of the gathering... or I might be wrong??"
Yes you’re correct.... that was my confusion...
We call socials , a munch in the USA. So people just come to a pub or restaurant to eat and drink... it’s not sexual at all...
You could show up , not eat or drink , and it’s usually after work....
The socials described in this thread are non play party’s in the USA....
That was my confusion as to why organizers wanted to charge a fee.... |
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Right, I’ve actually read the thread (god knows why cos I’m watching a film) but in the UK, a social is usually just an informal free to attend meet up in a bar or cafe or pub, an organised social is more organised with more people and more often than not, free to attend. She is an idiot if she made a loss. It means her business plan was flawed. It means her costs were higher than her income. I have no intention of ever paying to attend a social simply because I don’t need to.
I’m not exactly certain what point you’re trying to make.
actually.... the meaning of the word "social" has been co-opted... it was the other way round....
the original meaning of the "social" was the group event... non play in a vanilla enviroment, it was so people could network and get to know others...
no the term has been hijacked to mean any sort of meet...
oh, and to the question as to why people organise them... well, when i did the first newcastle event 10 years ago, it was a case of everyone grumbling as to why there were no events going on... but people not getting off their arses to do anything about it....
easy to complain... if everyone waited for someone else to do something, then nothing would get done! and no one else decided to step up... I did!!! I was the one who put my money and my time into it!!!
if 120 people swear blind they are going to turn up.. and on the night only 80 do... thats not the fault of the organiser who has put on stuff and figured they would cover so they aren't out of pocket!
when you put your own arse on the line, then you get to complain... until then.... no!
you should all the thank organisers for going out of their way to do this... its a thankless task at the best of time
would you rather complain about a social that charges a little too much.... or not have socials at all!"
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