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" Surely stupid individuals is a better term?" It does seem like there is a significant proportion of Americans who accept the rather odd viewpoint that the UK is heavily Muslim country. | |||
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"50/70 there is a possibility if the Muslims reproduce at an early age in sufficient numbers but you forget there are white Muslims too " Sinead O'Connor! | |||
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"I live near little America... I'm not that far from the two largest USAF bases in Europe, Lakenheath and Mildenhall, they stand out for being brash even when I'm shopping in the supermarket" It is great when they know more about your country than you do! | |||
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" Surely stupid individuals is a better term? It does seem like there is a significant proportion of Americans who accept the rather odd viewpoint that the UK is heavily Muslim country. " You could tell them the UK is a mainly Atheist country given the majority say they have no religion | |||
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"50/70 there is a possibility if the Muslims reproduce at an early age in sufficient numbers but you forget there are white Muslims too " Source please. The same thing was said about Catholics in the 16thC | |||
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"There are people, not necessarily Americans, who believe it will happen in the next ten There are others for whom 4% is already too many " Do adult humans grow to 40 feet tall? | |||
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"I live near little America... I'm not that far from the two largest USAF bases in Europe, Lakenheath and Mildenhall, they stand out for being brash even when I'm shopping in the supermarket It is great when they know more about your country than you do! " It's like Hollywood, always portrays America winning WW2 single handed and etc... They know and done it all... Have an opinion on everything yet clueless at the same time. | |||
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"There are people, not necessarily Americans, who believe it will happen in the next ten There are others for whom 4% is already too many Do adult humans grow to 40 feet tall? " If Tommy Robinson says so, then they must do, right ? | |||
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"50/70 there is a possibility if the Muslims reproduce at an early age in sufficient numbers but you forget there are white Muslims too Sinead O'Connor!" Is she not celibate? So panic over, phew | |||
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"50/70 there is a possibility if the Muslims reproduce at an early age in sufficient numbers but you forget there are white Muslims too Sinead O'Connor! Is she not celibate? So panic over, phew " She's a four time divorced lesbian so a natural fit apparently | |||
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"I live near little America... I'm not that far from the two largest USAF bases in Europe, Lakenheath and Mildenhall, they stand out for being brash even when I'm shopping in the supermarket It is great when they know more about your country than you do! It's like Hollywood, always portrays America winning WW2 single handed and etc... They know and done it all... Have an opinion on everything yet clueless at the same time. " U471 the movie that killed truth | |||
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"50/70 there is a possibility if the Muslims reproduce at an early age in sufficient numbers but you forget there are white Muslims too Source please. The same thing was said about Catholics in the 16thC" You can find a source that says 'take this non-linear trend, pretend it is linear and then you get a shocking results'. But why would you!!! | |||
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"In 50 years time i doubt any religions will be that popular. " Memetics, agreed. | |||
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"based on that, America will be populated mainly by morons by 2050.....or ten to nine as we say over here " | |||
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"I just got sucked into a conversation where a bunch of Americans started telling me that Britain was on the verge of becoming a majority Muslim country in "just" 50-70 years. I managed to get away but I'm just flabbergasted who people can believe such mind numbingly stupid shit. To make it worse, someone introduced me to the group saying "hey you're a bright guy, come meet this group of "independent thinkers". What...the...actual...fuck Muslims are 4 fucking percent of the country. Yes, there's a high birthrate in the Muslim population, some pretty obvious reasons for that too. Saying the UK will become a Muslim country is like predicting that your child will grow to 40 feet tall after observing their growth in the first two years of life. Sorry it's not Thursday but i had to get that off my chest. I'm just flabbergasted. I'm now of course thinking of all things I should have said before I left and all the shitty comebacks I should have used. But fuck me, how stupid are people these days. " It's not only Americans though, a frightening number of brexit supporters have watched the propaganda videos and believe the same I don't know but would not be surprised if Tommy Robinson held a similar view | |||
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""Muslims are 4 fucking percent of the country" Not the best way of putting it for me but hey ho Not so long ago it was the Irish and more recently the eastern Europeans " It just seems that some people think 4% is a lot. Maybe I need to explain it's 4 out of a 100? | |||
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"I just got sucked into a conversation where a bunch of Americans started telling me that Britain was on the verge of becoming a majority Muslim country in "just" 50-70 years. I managed to get away but I'm just flabbergasted who people can believe such mind numbingly stupid shit. To make it worse, someone introduced me to the group saying "hey you're a bright guy, come meet this group of "independent thinkers". What...the...actual...fuck Muslims are 4 fucking percent of the country. Yes, there's a high birthrate in the Muslim population, some pretty obvious reasons for that too. Saying the UK will become a Muslim country is like predicting that your child will grow to 40 feet tall after observing their growth in the first two years of life. Sorry it's not Thursday but i had to get that off my chest. I'm just flabbergasted. I'm now of course thinking of all things I should have said before I left and all the shitty comebacks I should have used. But fuck me, how stupid are people these days. It's not only Americans though, a frightening number of brexit supporters have watched the propaganda videos and believe the same I don't know but would not be surprised if Tommy Robinson held a similar view " Can't see the link there. There are no Muslim countries in the EU. | |||
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"I just got sucked into a conversation where a bunch of Americans started telling me that Britain was on the verge of becoming a majority Muslim country in "just" 50-70 years. I managed to get away but I'm just flabbergasted who people can believe such mind numbingly stupid shit. To make it worse, someone introduced me to the group saying "hey you're a bright guy, come meet this group of "independent thinkers". What...the...actual...fuck Muslims are 4 fucking percent of the country. Yes, there's a high birthrate in the Muslim population, some pretty obvious reasons for that too. Saying the UK will become a Muslim country is like predicting that your child will grow to 40 feet tall after observing their growth in the first two years of life. Sorry it's not Thursday but i had to get that off my chest. I'm just flabbergasted. I'm now of course thinking of all things I should have said before I left and all the shitty comebacks I should have used. But fuck me, how stupid are people these days. " I'm curious...what's the obvious reason for the high Muslim birth rate?? | |||
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"Muslims make up around 24% of the worlds population. It’s the second biggest religion on earth. Heres a question....in 50-70 years, let’s say the “stupid Americans” are right and Britain’s population is mainly Muslim. What difference would it make? " I'm not arguing it wouldn't make a difference, I'm saying it won't happen | |||
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"I just got sucked into a conversation where a bunch of Americans started telling me that Britain was on the verge of becoming a majority Muslim country in "just" 50-70 years. I managed to get away but I'm just flabbergasted who people can believe such mind numbingly stupid shit. To make it worse, someone introduced me to the group saying "hey you're a bright guy, come meet this group of "independent thinkers". What...the...actual...fuck Muslims are 4 fucking percent of the country. Yes, there's a high birthrate in the Muslim population, some pretty obvious reasons for that too. Saying the UK will become a Muslim country is like predicting that your child will grow to 40 feet tall after observing their growth in the first two years of life. Sorry it's not Thursday but i had to get that off my chest. I'm just flabbergasted. I'm now of course thinking of all things I should have said before I left and all the shitty comebacks I should have used. But fuck me, how stupid are people these days. I'm curious...what's the obvious reason for the high Muslim birth rate??" On average, their lower socio-economic status. There's an overwhelming trend that as people move up in socioeconomic status, they have less kids. Average, average, average before people bombard me with the usual anecdotes. | |||
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"I just got sucked into a conversation where a bunch of Americans started telling me that Britain was on the verge of becoming a majority Muslim country in "just" 50-70 years. I managed to get away but I'm just flabbergasted who people can believe such mind numbingly stupid shit. To make it worse, someone introduced me to the group saying "hey you're a bright guy, come meet this group of "independent thinkers". What...the...actual...fuck Muslims are 4 fucking percent of the country. Yes, there's a high birthrate in the Muslim population, some pretty obvious reasons for that too. Saying the UK will become a Muslim country is like predicting that your child will grow to 40 feet tall after observing their growth in the first two years of life. Sorry it's not Thursday but i had to get that off my chest. I'm just flabbergasted. I'm now of course thinking of all things I should have said before I left and all the shitty comebacks I should have used. But fuck me, how stupid are people these days. It's not only Americans though, a frightening number of brexit supporters have watched the propaganda videos and believe the same I don't know but would not be surprised if Tommy Robinson held a similar view Can't see the link there. There are no Muslim countries in the EU. " That comment makes no sense You suggest Americans are stupid for thinking the UK will become Islamic I suggested many UK humans thought the same way ? What's that got to do with the Eu ? | |||
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"I just got sucked into a conversation where a bunch of Americans started telling me that Britain was on the verge of becoming a majority Muslim country in "just" 50-70 years. I managed to get away but I'm just flabbergasted who people can believe such mind numbingly stupid shit. To make it worse, someone introduced me to the group saying "hey you're a bright guy, come meet this group of "independent thinkers". What...the...actual...fuck Muslims are 4 fucking percent of the country. Yes, there's a high birthrate in the Muslim population, some pretty obvious reasons for that too. Saying the UK will become a Muslim country is like predicting that your child will grow to 40 feet tall after observing their growth in the first two years of life. Sorry it's not Thursday but i had to get that off my chest. I'm just flabbergasted. I'm now of course thinking of all things I should have said before I left and all the shitty comebacks I should have used. But fuck me, how stupid are people these days. It's not only Americans though, a frightening number of brexit supporters have watched the propaganda videos and believe the same I don't know but would not be surprised if Tommy Robinson held a similar view Can't see the link there. There are no Muslim countries in the EU. That comment makes no sense You suggest Americans are stupid for thinking the UK will become Islamic I suggested many UK humans thought the same way ? What's that got to do with the Eu ? " Shhh honey, we're on the same side this time. Let's be nice to each other xxx | |||
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"I just got sucked into a conversation where a bunch of Americans started telling me that Britain was on the verge of becoming a majority Muslim country in "just" 50-70 years. I managed to get away but I'm just flabbergasted who people can believe such mind numbingly stupid shit. To make it worse, someone introduced me to the group saying "hey you're a bright guy, come meet this group of "independent thinkers". What...the...actual...fuck Muslims are 4 fucking percent of the country. Yes, there's a high birthrate in the Muslim population, some pretty obvious reasons for that too. Saying the UK will become a Muslim country is like predicting that your child will grow to 40 feet tall after observing their growth in the first two years of life. Sorry it's not Thursday but i had to get that off my chest. I'm just flabbergasted. I'm now of course thinking of all things I should have said before I left and all the shitty comebacks I should have used. But fuck me, how stupid are people these days. " They have already taken over the bloody country open your eyes. Oh and Americans are not stupid i have relatives from the states. | |||
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"I just got sucked into a conversation where a bunch of Americans started telling me that Britain was on the verge of becoming a majority Muslim country in "just" 50-70 years. I managed to get away but I'm just flabbergasted who people can believe such mind numbingly stupid shit. To make it worse, someone introduced me to the group saying "hey you're a bright guy, come meet this group of "independent thinkers". What...the...actual...fuck Muslims are 4 fucking percent of the country. Yes, there's a high birthrate in the Muslim population, some pretty obvious reasons for that too. Saying the UK will become a Muslim country is like predicting that your child will grow to 40 feet tall after observing their growth in the first two years of life. Sorry it's not Thursday but i had to get that off my chest. I'm just flabbergasted. I'm now of course thinking of all things I should have said before I left and all the shitty comebacks I should have used. But fuck me, how stupid are people these days. They have already taken over the bloody country open your eyes. Oh and Americans are not stupid i have relatives from the states. " Think you just proved my case for me | |||
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"I just got sucked into a conversation where a bunch of Americans started telling me that Britain was on the verge of becoming a majority Muslim country in "just" 50-70 years. I managed to get away but I'm just flabbergasted who people can believe such mind numbingly stupid shit. To make it worse, someone introduced me to the group saying "hey you're a bright guy, come meet this group of "independent thinkers". What...the...actual...fuck Muslims are 4 fucking percent of the country. Yes, there's a high birthrate in the Muslim population, some pretty obvious reasons for that too. Saying the UK will become a Muslim country is like predicting that your child will grow to 40 feet tall after observing their growth in the first two years of life. Sorry it's not Thursday but i had to get that off my chest. I'm just flabbergasted. I'm now of course thinking of all things I should have said before I left and all the shitty comebacks I should have used. But fuck me, how stupid are people these days. They have already taken over the bloody country open your eyes. Oh and Americans are not stupid i have relatives from the states. " Debate over | |||
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" Surely stupid individuals is a better term? It does seem like there is a significant proportion of Americans who accept the rather odd viewpoint that the UK is heavily Muslim country. " Brainwashed by the divisive shit poured into the internet by Putin's cyber warriors. | |||
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"I just got sucked into a conversation where a bunch of Americans started telling me that Britain was on the verge of becoming a majority Muslim country in "just" 50-70 years. I managed to get away but I'm just flabbergasted who people can believe such mind numbingly stupid shit. To make it worse, someone introduced me to the group saying "hey you're a bright guy, come meet this group of "independent thinkers". What...the...actual...fuck Muslims are 4 fucking percent of the country. Yes, there's a high birthrate in the Muslim population, some pretty obvious reasons for that too. Saying the UK will become a Muslim country is like predicting that your child will grow to 40 feet tall after observing their growth in the first two years of life. Sorry it's not Thursday but i had to get that off my chest. I'm just flabbergasted. I'm now of course thinking of all things I should have said before I left and all the shitty comebacks I should have used. But fuck me, how stupid are people these days. They have already taken over the bloody country open your eyes. Oh and Americans are not stupid i have relatives from the states. Debate over " Look around, the Queen is a Muslim, The Prime Minister is a Muslim, The Supreme Court has 12 Muslims on it, The CEO of Marks and Spencer is a Muslim, The top goal scorer in the Premier League is a Muslim.... Well 1 out of 5 ain't bad. | |||
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" They have already taken over the bloody country open your eyes. Oh and Americans are not stupid i have relatives from the states. " Who do you mean by "they"? If you mean people who adhere to the muslim religion, they represent less than 5 per cent of the population. One of the good things about living in a "free country" is that you are free to believe in a religion, any religion, or none. | |||
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"I have just gotten back from a trip to Japan with a stop over in Sweden.... What I find shocking is how politically charged Sweden has become..... I expected this form of thinking from Americans, Russians , Germans , and Brits. " Cheers mate " But not the Swedes.... I’m predicting a ban on the internet unless for commerce only and news programs to only report the news without a panel of experts giving opinions.... The reason I predict this will happen is because people can’t help themselves... Btw Americans aren’t stupid, we just have 350 million citizens... so the law of averages states there will be more idiots...." | |||
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"I just got sucked into a conversation where a bunch of Americans started telling me that Britain was on the verge of becoming a majority Muslim country in "just" 50-70 years. I managed to get away but I'm just flabbergasted who people can believe such mind numbingly stupid shit. To make it worse, someone introduced me to the group saying "hey you're a bright guy, come meet this group of "independent thinkers". What...the...actual...fuck Muslims are 4 fucking percent of the country. Yes, there's a high birthrate in the Muslim population, some pretty obvious reasons for that too. Saying the UK will become a Muslim country is like predicting that your child will grow to 40 feet tall after observing their growth in the first two years of life. Sorry it's not Thursday but i had to get that off my chest. I'm just flabbergasted. I'm now of course thinking of all things I should have said before I left and all the shitty comebacks I should have used. But fuck me, how stupid are people these days. They have already taken over the bloody country open your eyes. Oh and Americans are not stupid i have relatives from the states. " I don't see them taking over parliament, changing our laws, or anything? My city has a population of muslims (1% of people here class themselves as muslim compared to 0.5% overall in lancashire) but all they've done is build a mosque. | |||
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"If you can't see what's going on in this country- I'd say God help you , but I don't believe in God" Nope, please explain it to my simple mind? | |||
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"The only people who see fit to come round my house and harass me into following their religions are JW and mormons. Both are christian denominations. " Explain to them how their religion props up patriarchy. Maybe you'll end up converting them. | |||
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"The only people who see fit to come round my house and harass me into following their religions are JW and mormons. Both are christian denominations. Explain to them how their religion props up patriarchy. Maybe you'll end up converting them. " Not worth it. Plus they gave me free chocolates last time they visited, they can come round with free stuff if they like lol. | |||
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"The Americans are somewhat right. Personally I only give it 5 to 7 years." I'd like to make a bet with you that in 5 years time then Muslim population of this country will not be greater than 50% of the population. How much would you like to bet? | |||
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"If you can't see what's going on in this country- I'd say God help you , but I don't believe in God Nope, please explain it to my simple mind? " Well you've obviously got a simple mind. I'll close the door on my way out of the country. | |||
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"If you can't see what's going on in this country- I'd say God help you , but I don't believe in God Nope, please explain it to my simple mind? Well you've obviously got a simple mind. I'll close the door on my way out of the country." Yes i have a simple mind, that's why i said I do. But it's a public forum so why don't you explain it so the other enlightened people can agree with you and you might change some intelligent peoples minds. | |||
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"If you can't see what's going on in this country- I'd say God help you , but I don't believe in God Nope, please explain it to my simple mind? Well you've obviously got a simple mind. I'll close the door on my way out of the country." Bye. | |||
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"Fed shit, so it's kind of to be expected. A president and most of the media, where he gets things to tweet about, that has an agenda. Op - your contacts were brainwashesd. Few for the future if that ideological push continues " I'm not surprised to find stupid Americans. I'm surprised they self identify as "independent thinkers" now. Is that like independent of facts? | |||
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"Fed shit, so it's kind of to be expected. A president and most of the media, where he gets things to tweet about, that has an agenda. Op - your contacts were brainwashesd. Few for the future if that ideological push continues I'm not surprised to find stupid Americans. I'm surprised they self identify as "independent thinkers" now. Is that like independent of facts? " And that's exactly the kind of awesome put down I always think of after the event | |||
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"Fed shit, so it's kind of to be expected. A president and most of the media, where he gets things to tweet about, that has an agenda. Op - your contacts were brainwashesd. Few for the future if that ideological push continues I'm not surprised to find stupid Americans. I'm surprised they self identify as "independent thinkers" now. Is that like independent of facts? " "Independent" in this case means abandoning evidence, reasoning and/or logic. Ie, independent of a thinking process... | |||
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"There apparently are Britons who believe that the UK has Muslim "No go zones"..... There was quite an amusing Twitter thing a while ago, whereby people tweeted from the supposed "no-go areas"....." You mean the signs that were later shown to have been put up by BNP / EDL cretins? | |||
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"It's funny how the politicians who take awya rights do push agendas where they go on about others taking them away. It's like this stuff actually works in distracting people from what's really happening." It is for the same reason that programmes like "benefits street" exist... | |||
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"It's funny how the politicians who take awya rights do push agendas where they go on about others taking them away. It's like this stuff actually works in distracting people from what's really happening. It is for the same reason that programmes like "benefits street" exist..." | |||
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"I often wonder about these claims. Seems to me that the future of Islam in Britain has more to fear from enlightened thinking and freedom of thought than Britain has of Islamic dominance. The same as any relgion in an enviroment where it can be challenged and tested again rational reason. I know many Muslim freinds who are 2nd/3rd generation immigrants who are or are almost atheist. They mainly only go through the motions of their faith out of respect for their elders and community pressure. " Nope they are taking over and a war is coming. Apparently. Don't you "look around"? | |||
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"There apparently are Britons who believe that the UK has Muslim "No go zones"..... There was quite an amusing Twitter thing a while ago, whereby people tweeted from the supposed "no-go areas"..... You mean the signs that were later shown to have been put up by BNP / EDL cretins? " I didn't know there were actual signs.... | |||
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"The Americans are somewhat right. Personally I only give it 5 to 7 years. I'd like to make a bet with you that in 5 years time then Muslim population of this country will not be greater than 50% of the population. How much would you like to bet? " Ooooh I take it that you are a betting man. Betting is for mugs. Less than 50% you say !!! My life is nearly at an end. But if you back the wrong horse now........... | |||
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"I have just gotten back from a trip to Japan with a stop over in Sweden.... What I find shocking is how politically charged Sweden has become..... I expected this form of thinking from Americans, Russians , Germans , and Brits. But not the Swedes.... I’m predicting a ban on the internet unless for commerce only and news programs to only report the news without a panel of experts giving opinions.... The reason I predict this will happen is because people can’t help themselves... Btw Americans aren’t stupid, we just have 350 million citizens... so the law of averages states there will be more idiots...." Arent stupid? There are large chunks of America where they refuse to teach anything related to Darwinism, preferring to believe that the Bible is an ACCURATE record of human and Earth history... and they give these people the vote! | |||
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"The Americans are somewhat right. Personally I only give it 5 to 7 years. I'd like to make a bet with you that in 5 years time then Muslim population of this country will not be greater than 50% of the population. How much would you like to bet? Ooooh I take it that you are a betting man. Betting is for mugs. Less than 50% you say !!! My life is nearly at an end. But if you back the wrong horse now..........." Betting isn't for mugs. Studies have shown the people make more accurate predictions when forced to risk their own money. Therefore, it proves the conviction of your beliefs. Which you lack. | |||
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"There apparently are Britons who believe that the UK has Muslim "No go zones"..... There was quite an amusing Twitter thing a while ago, whereby people tweeted from the supposed "no-go areas"..... You mean the signs that were later shown to have been put up by BNP / EDL cretins? I didn't know there were actual signs.... " Yeah they put up "no dogs" signs in some parks. Because you know, Muslims are offended by dogs innit. | |||
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"That’s why they call it the White House , because we burnt the bastard down & they painted it white " Stupid comment | |||
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"Well if you lot want to believe everything you think Good luck " I'm open to having my mind changed. Just hit me with the facts please. | |||
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"Well if you lot want to believe everything you think Good luck I'm open to having my mind changed. Just hit me with the facts please. " I don't have the numbers and percentages you obviously want.i just see what's going on in life. Good luck if your names not Mohamed. | |||
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"Well if you lot want to believe everything you think Good luck I'm open to having my mind changed. Just hit me with the facts please. I don't have the numbers and percentages you obviously want.i just see what's going on in life. Good luck if your names not Mohamed." Ok well when the Queen starts praying 5 times a day then we can hit the panic button. | |||
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"That’s why they call it the White House , because we burnt the bastard down & they painted it white Stupid comment " | |||
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"There apparently are Britons who believe that the UK has Muslim "No go zones"..... There was quite an amusing Twitter thing a while ago, whereby people tweeted from the supposed "no-go areas"..... You mean the signs that were later shown to have been put up by BNP / EDL cretins? I didn't know there were actual signs.... Yeah they put up "no dogs" signs in some parks. Because you know, Muslims are offended by dogs innit. " Apparently, bacon is Muslim kryptonite too.... | |||
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"There apparently are Britons who believe that the UK has Muslim "No go zones"..... There was quite an amusing Twitter thing a while ago, whereby people tweeted from the supposed "no-go areas"..... You mean the signs that were later shown to have been put up by BNP / EDL cretins? I didn't know there were actual signs.... Yeah they put up "no dogs" signs in some parks. Because you know, Muslims are offended by dogs innit. Apparently, bacon is Muslim kryptonite too...." Vile sausage muncher. | |||
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"I often wonder about these claims. Seems to me that the future of Islam in Britain has more to fear from enlightened thinking and freedom of thought than Britain has of Islamic dominance. The same as any relgion in an enviroment where it can be challenged and tested again rational reason. I know many Muslim freinds who are 2nd/3rd generation immigrants who are or are almost atheist. They mainly only go through the motions of their faith out of respect for their elders and community pressure. Nope they are taking over and a war is coming. Apparently. Don't you "look around"? " Should be a quick war- anyone on a rug about sunset gets shot....the yanks and tories are particulary good at shooting things. If you're not muslim, just make sure you avoid any rugs once the lights are on as the septics also seem to have a lot of friendly fire hiccups | |||
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"I live near little America... I'm not that far from the two largest USAF bases in Europe, Lakenheath and Mildenhall, they stand out for being brash even when I'm shopping in the supermarket" They are military Americans, who are certainly not a significant enough part of the US population to be classed as all Americans. | |||
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"50/70 there is a possibility if the Muslims reproduce at an early age in sufficient numbers but you forget there are white Muslims too Sinead O'Connor!" next week she’s gonna be Jewish | |||
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"50/70 there is a possibility if the Muslims reproduce at an early age in sufficient numbers but you forget there are white Muslims too Sinead O'Connor! next week she’s gonna be Jewish " Cos nothing compares to Jew? *don't worry, coats on already | |||
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"50/70 there is a possibility if the Muslims reproduce at an early age in sufficient numbers but you forget there are white Muslims too Sinead O'Connor! next week she’s gonna be Jewish Cos nothing compares to Jew? *don't worry, coats on already " I laughed | |||
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"I don’t care what religion anyone is, I like people on what they’re like as a person, Muslim, Jew, Hindu, Sikh, Christian, atheist etc. People who worry about crap like that will worry forever over stuff that won’t happen... Alien invasions however..." Yes personally I like to let people get out the womb before making judgements about them. | |||
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"I don’t care what religion anyone is, I like people on what they’re like as a person, Muslim, Jew, Hindu, Sikh, Christian, atheist etc. People who worry about crap like that will worry forever over stuff that won’t happen... Alien invasions however..." About the Alien invasion...kind of a mix up when they let the Dyslexic type the press release...watch out for people called Alan taking over things- Alan Tichmarsh, Alan Davies....it has begun | |||
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"All I can say is....... Trump " | |||
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"I don’t care what religion anyone is, I like people on what they’re like as a person, Muslim, Jew, Hindu, Sikh, Christian, atheist etc. People who worry about crap like that will worry forever over stuff that won’t happen... Alien invasions however... About the Alien invasion...kind of a mix up when they let the Dyslexic type the press release...watch out for people called Alan taking over things- Alan Tichmarsh, Alan Davies....it has begun " Lol!! | |||
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"There apparently are Britons who believe that the UK has Muslim "No go zones"..... There was quite an amusing Twitter thing a while ago, whereby people tweeted from the supposed "no-go areas"..... You mean the signs that were later shown to have been put up by BNP / EDL cretins? I didn't know there were actual signs.... Yeah they put up "no dogs" signs in some parks. Because you know, Muslims are offended by dogs innit. " True. | |||
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"Fed shit, so it's kind of to be expected. A president and most of the media, where he gets things to tweet about, that has an agenda. Op - your contacts were brainwashesd. Few for the future if that ideological push continues I'm not surprised to find stupid Americans. I'm surprised they self identify as "independent thinkers" now. Is that like independent of facts? " There's a video going round twitter showing Americans interviewed on the street who could not correctly identify their own country on a world map. | |||
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"I often wonder about these claims. Seems to me that the future of Islam in Britain has more to fear from enlightened thinking and freedom of thought than Britain has of Islamic dominance. The same as any relgion in an enviroment where it can be challenged and tested again rational reason. I know many Muslim freinds who are 2nd/3rd generation immigrants who are or are almost atheist. They mainly only go through the motions of their faith out of respect for their elders and community pressure. Nope they are taking over and a war is coming. Apparently. Don't you "look around"? Should be a quick war- anyone on a rug about sunset gets shot....the yanks and tories are particulary good at shooting things. If you're not muslim, just make sure you avoid any rugs once the lights are on as the septics also seem to have a lot of friendly fire hiccups " Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe it was a Labour PM that took us into this current Middle East fuckup? Not that I have any love for the Tories who felt obliged to sustain it.. | |||
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"Fed shit, so it's kind of to be expected. A president and most of the media, where he gets things to tweet about, that has an agenda. Op - your contacts were brainwashesd. Few for the future if that ideological push continues I'm not surprised to find stupid Americans. I'm surprised they self identify as "independent thinkers" now. Is that like independent of facts? There's a video going round twitter showing Americans interviewed on the street who could not correctly identify their own country on a world map. " They're probably wondering what all the other green blobs are. Other countries besides America? #FakeNews | |||
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"You have to understand Americans don’t have a clue about most things except America " Or even that. They are convinced the Mexicans and Blacks are going to out breed 'them'. Of course look at the facts and you see birthrates in those communities plummet as socio economic status increases too. | |||
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"......They have already taken over the bloody country open your eyes. Oh and Americans are not stupid i have relatives from the states. " Who's they? The brexiteers or the idiots or are they the same? Mike xx | |||
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"stupidity isn't just an american trait.... i have seen enough people here, and enough people on this site, that live the push the myth that the muslims or ethnics are coming to get you... and the white people will be in the minority!!! how many times do you see people bleating on about how sharia law is going to take over.... people like to traffic on fear to advance their narrative, some are just gullible enough to believe it... " But you have to admit that certain news channels do pedal that message hard in America. So in some circles it's just accepted wisdom that Britain is on the verge if declaring a capliphate. | |||
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"You have to understand Americans don’t have a clue about most things except America I do tire of these sweeping statements. I've worked with and travelled with many from the USA and have been indebted to them and fond of their outlook and views. Of course there are those who bring poor reputations,but same goes for every country. For me there's an element of irony in the ridiculing of Americans ( America is a continent) because of their apparent ignorance to the world and generalizations they make. You make one yourself by saying that?" If you read what i actually said, I met some stupid Americans, not all Americans are stupid. | |||
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"You have to understand Americans don’t have a clue about most things except America I do tire of these sweeping statements. I've worked with and travelled with many from the USA and have been indebted to them and fond of their outlook and views. Of course there are those who bring poor reputations,but same goes for every country. For me there's an element of irony in the ridiculing of Americans ( America is a continent) because of their apparent ignorance to the world and generalizations they make. You make one yourself by saying that? If you read what i actually said, I met some stupid Americans, not all Americans are stupid. How do you know they were all stupid? They might have been fucking with you? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ukQlRHpogjQ " I know they were stupid because i asked for their logic and there wasn't much other than a linear projection or a non-linear trend. | |||
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"You have to understand Americans don’t have a clue about most things except America I do tire of these sweeping statements. I've worked with and travelled with many from the USA and have been indebted to them and fond of their outlook and views. Of course there are those who bring poor reputations,but same goes for every country. For me there's an element of irony in the ridiculing of Americans ( America is a continent) because of their apparent ignorance to the world and generalizations they make. You make one yourself by saying that? If you read what i actually said, I met some stupid Americans, not all Americans are stupid. " I wasn't actually replying to your post which I took tongue in cheek. I'm making reference to the general demonisation of the country by people. It has it's faults, but oh boy so do we? And so do others. As for their comments; pop into any workplace or public area in the UK and you'll hear similiar conversations eventually? Part of the problem is that a sector of society do believe this and feel troubled by such information. It's something that needs open honest conversation to educate and alleviate false facts. If we brand people idiots and racists everytime they express a thought, how do people learn and communicate with dialect? | |||
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"Mostly I think the problem is that there's a lot of disinformation being put out at the moment and social media in particular helps spread it. If it speaks to someone they are unlikely to question it because that's how the human mind works. Imagine what it would be like in the UK without the BBC and it's enforced 'neutrality' and people had to rely on the papers and Sky for their information. The other part is that whites in the USA are within a generation of becoming a minority, the biggest minority to be sure, and it's unsettling a lot of then. Along with the ever helpful Russians I've heard that this impending loss of majority is what, possibly subconsciously, lead to a lot of white Americans voting for Mr Trump. 'Keep America White' as it were. So there's a big push back by white, Christian men against all things that aren't white, Christian and male and a lot of people buy into it as they are about to lose their rather privileged position in society. For some reason a lot of activists in the USA like to use the UK as an example of how bad things are or will be. Probably because it's a bit like the USA but no one goes there so have no first hand experience when absolute bollocks is used in an argument. See the way some were slagging off the NHS despite the longer life expectancy in the UK and the references to police no-go cities like Birmingham! Humans simply aren't equipped with a decent bullshit filter (which does raise some serious concerns for the future of democracy). Mike xx" Sorry but what kind of phrase is "within a generation of becoming a minority"? Do you mean if that generation included a war that only white people served in? The official statistics under estimate the white population since affirmative action has incentivised every other ejit to find that they are 1/64th Cherokee and claim some special status. | |||
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"You have to understand Americans don’t have a clue about most things except America I do tire of these sweeping statements. I've worked with and travelled with many from the USA and have been indebted to them and fond of their outlook and views. Of course there are those who bring poor reputations,but same goes for every country. For me there's an element of irony in the ridiculing of Americans ( America is a continent) because of their apparent ignorance to the world and generalizations they make. You make one yourself by saying that? If you read what i actually said, I met some stupid Americans, not all Americans are stupid. I wasn't actually replying to your post which I took tongue in cheek. I'm making reference to the general demonisation of the country by people. It has it's faults, but oh boy so do we? And so do others. As for their comments; pop into any workplace or public area in the UK and you'll hear similiar conversations eventually? " True, but normally there people won't self identify as "independent thinkers". I expected a bunch of smelly tree huggers with dreadlocks, not the Richard Spencer fanboy club. " Part of the problem is that a sector of society do believe this and feel troubled by such information. It's something that needs open honest conversation to educate and alleviate false facts. If we brand people idiots and racists everytime they express a thought, how do people learn and communicate with dialect?" | |||
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"I just got sucked into a conversation where a bunch of Americans started telling me that Britain was on the verge of becoming a majority Muslim country in "just" 50-70 years. I managed to get away but I'm just flabbergasted who people can believe such mind numbingly stupid shit. To make it worse, someone introduced me to the group saying "hey you're a bright guy, come meet this group of "independent thinkers". What...the...actual...fuck Muslims are 4 fucking percent of the country. Yes, there's a high birthrate in the Muslim population, some pretty obvious reasons for that too. Saying the UK will become a Muslim country is like predicting that your child will grow to 40 feet tall after observing their growth in the first two years of life. Sorry it's not Thursday but i had to get that off my chest. I'm just flabbergasted. I'm now of course thinking of all things I should have said before I left and all the shitty comebacks I should have used. But fuck me, how stupid are people these days. It's not only Americans though, a frightening number of brexit supporters have watched the propaganda videos and believe the same I don't know but would not be surprised if Tommy Robinson held a similar view " | |||
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"It's probably equally "stupid" to start labelling all persons of any demographic/ nation as such Which didn't happen Interesting choice of words for a thread title then" No it's just your reading comprehension that's the problem. | |||
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"You have to understand Americans don’t have a clue about most things except America And they don't know much about that either! " . I know they ain't all like it , but a friend of mine who lives in Dallas has confirmed that there are a lot of dumb fucks there | |||
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"You have to understand Americans don’t have a clue about most things except America Or even that. They are convinced the Mexicans and Blacks are going to out breed 'them'. Of course look at the facts and you see birthrates in those communities plummet as socio economic status increases too. " I like that idea, I think black Americans should breed them, they would be a far more tolerant and attractive nation.. I don’t have a problem with that lol | |||
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"This has reminded me of a conversation I had with a Muslim boy at the school I worked at. He would often randomly blurt out something regarding Jews and how he hates them but this day his blurt was about how Muslims are going to take over the world one day. I wanted to pat him on the head and cuddle him and tell him how impossible that will be but don't worry about it. He really was a messed up kid at heart and I can only think it's his dad messing him up." Yeesh, you might want to report that | |||
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"This has reminded me of a conversation I had with a Muslim boy at the school I worked at. He would often randomly blurt out something regarding Jews and how he hates them but this day his blurt was about how Muslims are going to take over the world one day. I wanted to pat him on the head and cuddle him and tell him how impossible that will be but don't worry about it. He really was a messed up kid at heart and I can only think it's his dad messing him up. Yeesh, you might want to report that " I wouldn’t worry about it, the majority of radicalised or extremist Muslims get reported by the none-headbanging-throwthepoofsoff roofs ones, report them. Who you know are the majority of Muslims. | |||
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"I just got sucked into a conversation where a bunch of Americans started telling me that Britain was on the verge of becoming a majority Muslim country in "just" 50-70 years. I managed to get away but I'm just flabbergasted who people can believe such mind numbingly stupid shit. To make it worse, someone introduced me to the group saying "hey you're a bright guy, come meet this group of "independent thinkers". What...the...actual...fuck Muslims are 4 fucking percent of the country. Yes, there's a high birthrate in the Muslim population, some pretty obvious reasons for that too. Saying the UK will become a Muslim country is like predicting that your child will grow to 40 feet tall after observing their growth in the first two years of life. Sorry it's not Thursday but i had to get that off my chest. I'm just flabbergasted. I'm now of course thinking of all things I should have said before I left and all the shitty comebacks I should have used. But fuck me, how stupid are people these days. " Look who they voted as president, enough said really. | |||
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"This has reminded me of a conversation I had with a Muslim boy at the school I worked at. He would often randomly blurt out something regarding Jews and how he hates them but this day his blurt was about how Muslims are going to take over the world one day. I wanted to pat him on the head and cuddle him and tell him how impossible that will be but don't worry about it. He really was a messed up kid at heart and I can only think it's his dad messing him up. Yeesh, you might want to report that " The faculty were aware. | |||
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"50/70 there is a possibility if the Muslims reproduce at an early age in sufficient numbers but you forget there are white Muslims too Sinead O'Connor! Is she not celibate? So panic over, phew She's a four time divorced lesbian so a natural fit apparently " Hmmm, i reckon she'll change her mind in 7 hours and 15 days..... | |||
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"50/70 there is a possibility if the Muslims reproduce at an early age in sufficient numbers but you forget there are white Muslims too Sinead O'Connor! Is she not celibate? So panic over, phew She's a four time divorced lesbian so a natural fit apparently Hmmm, i reckon she'll change her mind in 7 hours and 15 days..... " Haha I like this | |||
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"50/70 there is a possibility if the Muslims reproduce at an early age in sufficient numbers but you forget there are white Muslims too Sinead O'Connor! Is she not celibate? So panic over, phew She's a four time divorced lesbian so a natural fit apparently Hmmm, i reckon she'll change her mind in 7 hours and 15 days..... Haha I like this " Why thank you, I'm available for weddings, christening's and Bar mitzvahs | |||
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"50/70 there is a possibility if the Muslims reproduce at an early age in sufficient numbers but you forget there are white Muslims too Sinead O'Connor! Is she not celibate? So panic over, phew She's a four time divorced lesbian so a natural fit apparently Hmmm, i reckon she'll change her mind in 7 hours and 15 days..... Haha I like this Why thank you, I'm available for weddings, christening's and Bar mitzvahs " Funerals too ?? | |||
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"50/70 there is a possibility if the Muslims reproduce at an early age in sufficient numbers but you forget there are white Muslims too Sinead O'Connor! Is she not celibate? So panic over, phew She's a four time divorced lesbian so a natural fit apparently Hmmm, i reckon she'll change her mind in 7 hours and 15 days..... Haha I like this Why thank you, I'm available for weddings, christening's and Bar mitzvahs Funerals too ?? " I put the Fun into Funeral my friend | |||
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"50/70 there is a possibility if the Muslims reproduce at an early age in sufficient numbers but you forget there are white Muslims too Sinead O'Connor! Is she not celibate? So panic over, phew She's a four time divorced lesbian so a natural fit apparently Hmmm, i reckon she'll change her mind in 7 hours and 15 days..... Haha I like this Why thank you, I'm available for weddings, christening's and Bar mitzvahs Funerals too ?? I put the Fun into Funeral my friend " Shame it's not spelt Funoral then | |||
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"50/70 there is a possibility if the Muslims reproduce at an early age in sufficient numbers but you forget there are white Muslims too Sinead O'Connor! Is she not celibate? So panic over, phew She's a four time divorced lesbian so a natural fit apparently Hmmm, i reckon she'll change her mind in 7 hours and 15 days..... Haha I like this Why thank you, I'm available for weddings, christening's and Bar mitzvahs Funerals too ?? I put the Fun into Funeral my friend Shame it's not spelt Funoral then " That's a whole different service! | |||
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"Genuine question. If only 4% of the population are muslin; why do some of the secondary schools in my area only serve halal meat? Not to mention several restaurant chains that also serve it." Sounds kosher to me x | |||
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"Genuine question. If only 4% of the population are muslin; why do some of the secondary schools in my area only serve halal meat? Not to mention several restaurant chains that also serve it." What do you mean "if"? Are you suggesting that the Muslim population of Britain is more than 4%? | |||
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"Genuine question. If only 4% of the population are muslin; why do some of the secondary schools in my area only serve halal meat? Not to mention several restaurant chains that also serve it." The answer to this is that most Halal meat in this country is pre-stunned, ie the slaughter process is the same as "secular" meat, except some beardy dude says a prayer. Ergo, a lot of meat can be marketed as Halal. If Muslims want non pre-stun, they have to look for it. Kosher meat can never be pre-stunned so it's harder to find. | |||
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"Genuine question. If only 4% of the population are muslin; why do some of the secondary schools in my area only serve halal meat? Not to mention several restaurant chains that also serve it. What do you mean "if"? Are you suggesting that the Muslim population of Britain is more than 4%? " I thinks he's suggesting 4% of the population are made of a loose weave cotton material thats quite useful when making cheese #comedytypomoment | |||
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"Genuine question. If only 4% of the population are muslin; why do some of the secondary schools in my area only serve halal meat? Not to mention several restaurant chains that also serve it. What do you mean "if"? Are you suggesting that the Muslim population of Britain is more than 4%? " From what I can tell it’s about 5% that are Muslim . And 50% Christian . The massive difference is whether the Christians are actually practicing or just say they are . All the Muslims will attend their mosques and pray regularly . Less so the Christians . Round here there are seven churches and they are all empty , next to no one attending . One vicar running around to look after all seven . In 50 years it’ll be likely that there will be up to 25% Muslim and 40% Christian , but there will likely be many more mosques and plenty of Churches sold as no one goes now , so even less in fifty years . Being a Christian today means fuck all really . Being a Muslim means some level of commitment to the religion , and there’s the difference . There are probably more practicing Muslims than practicing Christians in the uk as I write this post ! | |||
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"Genuine question. If only 4% of the population are muslin; why do some of the secondary schools in my area only serve halal meat? Not to mention several restaurant chains that also serve it. What do you mean "if"? Are you suggesting that the Muslim population of Britain is more than 4%? From what I can tell it’s about 5% that are Muslim . And 50% Christian . The massive difference is whether the Christians are actually practicing or just say they are . All the Muslims will attend their mosques and pray regularly . Less so the Christians . Round here there are seven churches and they are all empty , next to no one attending . One vicar running around to look after all seven . In 50 years it’ll be likely that there will be up to 25% Muslim and 40% Christian , but there will likely be many more mosques and plenty of Churches sold as no one goes now , so even less in fifty years . Being a Christian today means fuck all really . Being a Muslim means some level of commitment to the religion , and there’s the difference . There are probably more practicing Muslims than practicing Christians in the uk as I write this post !" Are you suggesting Muslims are better people as they are more committed to pleasing Yahweh ? | |||
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"It's probably equally "stupid" to start labelling all persons of any demographic/ nation as such Which didn't happen Interesting choice of words for a thread title then No it's just your reading comprehension that's the problem. There are 3 words in that title - not much space there for either comprehension or nuance" So you can't count count to three either | |||
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"Genuine question. If only 4% of the population are muslin; why do some of the secondary schools in my area only serve halal meat? Not to mention several restaurant chains that also serve it. What do you mean "if"? Are you suggesting that the Muslim population of Britain is more than 4%? From what I can tell it’s about 5% that are Muslim . And 50% Christian . The massive difference is whether the Christians are actually practicing or just say they are . All the Muslims will attend their mosques and pray regularly . Less so the Christians . Round here there are seven churches and they are all empty , next to no one attending . One vicar running around to look after all seven . In 50 years it’ll be likely that there will be up to 25% Muslim and 40% Christian , but there will likely be many more mosques and plenty of Churches sold as no one goes now , so even less in fifty years . Being a Christian today means fuck all really . Being a Muslim means some level of commitment to the religion , and there’s the difference . There are probably more practicing Muslims than practicing Christians in the uk as I write this post !" I doesn't really though. How many Muslims do you know that pray 5 times a day? I know more Muslims that swing than pray 5 times a day. | |||
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"Genuine question. If only 4% of the population are muslin; why do some of the secondary schools in my area only serve halal meat? Not to mention several restaurant chains that also serve it. What do you mean "if"? Are you suggesting that the Muslim population of Britain is more than 4%? From what I can tell it’s about 5% that are Muslim . And 50% Christian . The massive difference is whether the Christians are actually practicing or just say they are . All the Muslims will attend their mosques and pray regularly . Less so the Christians . Round here there are seven churches and they are all empty , next to no one attending . One vicar running around to look after all seven . In 50 years it’ll be likely that there will be up to 25% Muslim and 40% Christian , but there will likely be many more mosques and plenty of Churches sold as no one goes now , so even less in fifty years . Being a Christian today means fuck all really . Being a Muslim means some level of commitment to the religion , and there’s the difference . There are probably more practicing Muslims than practicing Christians in the uk as I write this post !" As I recall about 15 % of the population attend church at least once a month. Even if all the Muslims attend the mosque practicing Christians will outnumber them by about four to one. In actual fact, the largest growing group is the explicitly non religious. Up from around 30% in 1983 to about 54% now. Mostly at the expense of Anglicans. | |||
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"Genuine question. If only 4% of the population are muslin; why do some of the secondary schools in my area only serve halal meat? Not to mention several restaurant chains that also serve it. What do you mean "if"? Are you suggesting that the Muslim population of Britain is more than 4%? From what I can tell it’s about 5% that are Muslim . And 50% Christian . The massive difference is whether the Christians are actually practicing or just say they are . All the Muslims will attend their mosques and pray regularly . Less so the Christians . Round here there are seven churches and they are all empty , next to no one attending . One vicar running around to look after all seven . In 50 years it’ll be likely that there will be up to 25% Muslim and 40% Christian , but there will likely be many more mosques and plenty of Churches sold as no one goes now , so even less in fifty years . Being a Christian today means fuck all really . Being a Muslim means some level of commitment to the religion , and there’s the difference . There are probably more practicing Muslims than practicing Christians in the uk as I write this post ! Are you suggesting Muslims are better people as they are more committed to pleasing Yahweh ? " Not at all , just that Muslims do treat their religion with more reverence overall . Whether that makes them better people is a completely different subject . | |||
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"Genuine question. If only 4% of the population are muslin; why do some of the secondary schools in my area only serve halal meat? Not to mention several restaurant chains that also serve it. What do you mean "if"? Are you suggesting that the Muslim population of Britain is more than 4%? From what I can tell it’s about 5% that are Muslim . And 50% Christian . The massive difference is whether the Christians are actually practicing or just say they are . All the Muslims will attend their mosques and pray regularly . Less so the Christians . Round here there are seven churches and they are all empty , next to no one attending . One vicar running around to look after all seven . In 50 years it’ll be likely that there will be up to 25% Muslim and 40% Christian , but there will likely be many more mosques and plenty of Churches sold as no one goes now , so even less in fifty years . Being a Christian today means fuck all really . Being a Muslim means some level of commitment to the religion , and there’s the difference . There are probably more practicing Muslims than practicing Christians in the uk as I write this post ! I doesn't really though. How many Muslims do you know that pray 5 times a day? I know more Muslims that swing than pray 5 times a day. " What I do know is that the local Mosques have services all through the day and evening and they are well attended . I’ve also worked with plenty of Muslims who do pray 5 times a day , and I’ve yet to meet any swinging Muslims . | |||
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"Genuine question. If only 4% of the population are muslin; why do some of the secondary schools in my area only serve halal meat? Not to mention several restaurant chains that also serve it. What do you mean "if"? Are you suggesting that the Muslim population of Britain is more than 4%? " He's failing to grasp that the Muslim population being 4% overall is completely consistent with it being significantly higher in certain areas. | |||
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"Genuine question. If only 4% of the population are muslin; why do some of the secondary schools in my area only serve halal meat? Not to mention several restaurant chains that also serve it. What do you mean "if"? Are you suggesting that the Muslim population of Britain is more than 4%? From what I can tell it’s about 5% that are Muslim . And 50% Christian . The massive difference is whether the Christians are actually practicing or just say they are . All the Muslims will attend their mosques and pray regularly . Less so the Christians . Round here there are seven churches and they are all empty , next to no one attending . One vicar running around to look after all seven . In 50 years it’ll be likely that there will be up to 25% Muslim and 40% Christian , but there will likely be many more mosques and plenty of Churches sold as no one goes now , so even less in fifty years . Being a Christian today means fuck all really . Being a Muslim means some level of commitment to the religion , and there’s the difference . There are probably more practicing Muslims than practicing Christians in the uk as I write this post ! Are you suggesting Muslims are better people as they are more committed to pleasing Yahweh ? Not at all , just that Muslims do treat their religion with more reverence overall . Whether that makes them better people is a completely different subject ." Yes but I'm just wondering what relevance your statement has to the thread | |||
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"Genuine question. If only 4% of the population are muslin; why do some of the secondary schools in my area only serve halal meat? Not to mention several restaurant chains that also serve it. What do you mean "if"? Are you suggesting that the Muslim population of Britain is more than 4%? From what I can tell it’s about 5% that are Muslim . And 50% Christian . The massive difference is whether the Christians are actually practicing or just say they are . All the Muslims will attend their mosques and pray regularly . Less so the Christians . Round here there are seven churches and they are all empty , next to no one attending . One vicar running around to look after all seven . In 50 years it’ll be likely that there will be up to 25% Muslim and 40% Christian , but there will likely be many more mosques and plenty of Churches sold as no one goes now , so even less in fifty years . Being a Christian today means fuck all really . Being a Muslim means some level of commitment to the religion , and there’s the difference . There are probably more practicing Muslims than practicing Christians in the uk as I write this post ! As I recall about 15 % of the population attend church at least once a month. Even if all the Muslims attend the mosque practicing Christians will outnumber them by about four to one. In actual fact, the largest growing group is the explicitly non religious. Up from around 30% in 1983 to about 54% now. Mostly at the expense of Anglicans. " The faith survey has it at 4.7 % attending church in England , yes , less than 5% ! | |||
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"I'm curious...what's the obvious reason for the high Muslim birth rate??" Infant mortality. It's not a religious or class thing, but down to the fact that if children are unlikely to grow up, parents have more. Look at British families, of all classes, in the victorian era. It usually takes a couple of generations of all children reaching adulthood for the birthrate to drop to approximately two children per family. So the children of immigrants from countries with high infant mortality will probably have a large number of children, but grandchildren of immigrants probably will not. Some religions, such as catholism may ban contraception and encourage large families, but I know Catholic families with only two children and I'm sure that Muslim families are similar. | |||
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"Genuine question. If only 4% of the population are muslin; why do some of the secondary schools in my area only serve halal meat? Not to mention several restaurant chains that also serve it. What do you mean "if"? Are you suggesting that the Muslim population of Britain is more than 4%? From what I can tell it’s about 5% that are Muslim . And 50% Christian . The massive difference is whether the Christians are actually practicing or just say they are . All the Muslims will attend their mosques and pray regularly . Less so the Christians . Round here there are seven churches and they are all empty , next to no one attending . One vicar running around to look after all seven . In 50 years it’ll be likely that there will be up to 25% Muslim and 40% Christian , but there will likely be many more mosques and plenty of Churches sold as no one goes now , so even less in fifty years . Being a Christian today means fuck all really . Being a Muslim means some level of commitment to the religion , and there’s the difference . There are probably more practicing Muslims than practicing Christians in the uk as I write this post ! As I recall about 15 % of the population attend church at least once a month. Even if all the Muslims attend the mosque practicing Christians will outnumber them by about four to one. In actual fact, the largest growing group is the explicitly non religious. Up from around 30% in 1983 to about 54% now. Mostly at the expense of Anglicans. The faith survey has it at 4.7 % attending church in England , yes , less than 5% ! " Are you just illustrating the Christian Jesus myth is so obviously ludicrous that not many are convinced by it ? | |||
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"Genuine question. If only 4% of the population are muslin; why do some of the secondary schools in my area only serve halal meat? Not to mention several restaurant chains that also serve it. What do you mean "if"? Are you suggesting that the Muslim population of Britain is more than 4%? From what I can tell it’s about 5% that are Muslim . And 50% Christian . The massive difference is whether the Christians are actually practicing or just say they are . All the Muslims will attend their mosques and pray regularly . Less so the Christians . Round here there are seven churches and they are all empty , next to no one attending . One vicar running around to look after all seven . In 50 years it’ll be likely that there will be up to 25% Muslim and 40% Christian , but there will likely be many more mosques and plenty of Churches sold as no one goes now , so even less in fifty years . Being a Christian today means fuck all really . Being a Muslim means some level of commitment to the religion , and there’s the difference . There are probably more practicing Muslims than practicing Christians in the uk as I write this post ! Are you suggesting Muslims are better people as they are more committed to pleasing Yahweh ? Not at all , just that Muslims do treat their religion with more reverence overall . Whether that makes them better people is a completely different subject . Yes but I'm just wondering what relevance your statement has to the thread " The thread is suggesting that Americans think we will become a Muslim country in fifty years . If you look at the decline in Christianity over the past fifty years , and the rise in Muslim in the same period , it may well be the case . | |||
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"Genuine question. If only 4% of the population are muslin; why do some of the secondary schools in my area only serve halal meat? Not to mention several restaurant chains that also serve it. What do you mean "if"? Are you suggesting that the Muslim population of Britain is more than 4%? From what I can tell it’s about 5% that are Muslim . And 50% Christian . The massive difference is whether the Christians are actually practicing or just say they are . All the Muslims will attend their mosques and pray regularly . Less so the Christians . Round here there are seven churches and they are all empty , next to no one attending . One vicar running around to look after all seven . In 50 years it’ll be likely that there will be up to 25% Muslim and 40% Christian , but there will likely be many more mosques and plenty of Churches sold as no one goes now , so even less in fifty years . Being a Christian today means fuck all really . Being a Muslim means some level of commitment to the religion , and there’s the difference . There are probably more practicing Muslims than practicing Christians in the uk as I write this post ! As I recall about 15 % of the population attend church at least once a month. Even if all the Muslims attend the mosque practicing Christians will outnumber them by about four to one. In actual fact, the largest growing group is the explicitly non religious. Up from around 30% in 1983 to about 54% now. Mostly at the expense of Anglicans. The faith survey has it at 4.7 % attending church in England , yes , less than 5% ! Are you just illustrating the Christian Jesus myth is so obviously ludicrous that not many are convinced by it ? " Not at all , I’m illustrating the point to my post and it’s relevence to the thread | |||
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"Genuine question. If only 4% of the population are muslin; why do some of the secondary schools in my area only serve halal meat? Not to mention several restaurant chains that also serve it. What do you mean "if"? Are you suggesting that the Muslim population of Britain is more than 4%? From what I can tell it’s about 5% that are Muslim . And 50% Christian . The massive difference is whether the Christians are actually practicing or just say they are . All the Muslims will attend their mosques and pray regularly . Less so the Christians . Round here there are seven churches and they are all empty , next to no one attending . One vicar running around to look after all seven . In 50 years it’ll be likely that there will be up to 25% Muslim and 40% Christian , but there will likely be many more mosques and plenty of Churches sold as no one goes now , so even less in fifty years . Being a Christian today means fuck all really . Being a Muslim means some level of commitment to the religion , and there’s the difference . There are probably more practicing Muslims than practicing Christians in the uk as I write this post ! Are you suggesting Muslims are better people as they are more committed to pleasing Yahweh ? Not at all , just that Muslims do treat their religion with more reverence overall . Whether that makes them better people is a completely different subject . Yes but I'm just wondering what relevance your statement has to the thread The thread is suggesting that Americans think we will become a Muslim country in fifty years . If you look at the decline in Christianity over the past fifty years , and the rise in Muslim in the same period , it may well be the case . " As i say, adults don't grow 40 feet tall. | |||
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"Genuine question. If only 4% of the population are muslin; why do some of the secondary schools in my area only serve halal meat? Not to mention several restaurant chains that also serve it. What do you mean "if"? Are you suggesting that the Muslim population of Britain is more than 4%? From what I can tell it’s about 5% that are Muslim . And 50% Christian . The massive difference is whether the Christians are actually practicing or just say they are . All the Muslims will attend their mosques and pray regularly . Less so the Christians . Round here there are seven churches and they are all empty , next to no one attending . One vicar running around to look after all seven . In 50 years it’ll be likely that there will be up to 25% Muslim and 40% Christian , but there will likely be many more mosques and plenty of Churches sold as no one goes now , so even less in fifty years . Being a Christian today means fuck all really . Being a Muslim means some level of commitment to the religion , and there’s the difference . There are probably more practicing Muslims than practicing Christians in the uk as I write this post ! As I recall about 15 % of the population attend church at least once a month. Even if all the Muslims attend the mosque practicing Christians will outnumber them by about four to one. In actual fact, the largest growing group is the explicitly non religious. Up from around 30% in 1983 to about 54% now. Mostly at the expense of Anglicans. The faith survey has it at 4.7 % attending church in England , yes , less than 5% ! " You're right, my mistake! I think you're also right that there is a larger percentage of observant Muslims, then observant Christians. I've known sone swinging Muslims and they still observe Ramadan, attend the mosque etc, which is slightly curious. I think the reason is ethno/cultural rather than religious. Religion is tied up with membership of particular ethnic groups in the way that simply isn't the case with the white British. It's similar to those of Irish Catholic background. Katie is one of them. She doesn't believe in God, is actually less nuanced in her views on religion than me, buy had her daughter baptised and attended mass so she could get in a Catholic school! | |||
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"Genuine question. If only 4% of the population are muslin; why do some of the secondary schools in my area only serve halal meat? Not to mention several restaurant chains that also serve it. What do you mean "if"? Are you suggesting that the Muslim population of Britain is more than 4%? From what I can tell it’s about 5% that are Muslim . And 50% Christian . The massive difference is whether the Christians are actually practicing or just say they are . All the Muslims will attend their mosques and pray regularly . Less so the Christians . Round here there are seven churches and they are all empty , next to no one attending . One vicar running around to look after all seven . In 50 years it’ll be likely that there will be up to 25% Muslim and 40% Christian , but there will likely be many more mosques and plenty of Churches sold as no one goes now , so even less in fifty years . Being a Christian today means fuck all really . Being a Muslim means some level of commitment to the religion , and there’s the difference . There are probably more practicing Muslims than practicing Christians in the uk as I write this post ! As I recall about 15 % of the population attend church at least once a month. Even if all the Muslims attend the mosque practicing Christians will outnumber them by about four to one. In actual fact, the largest growing group is the explicitly non religious. Up from around 30% in 1983 to about 54% now. Mostly at the expense of Anglicans. The faith survey has it at 4.7 % attending church in England , yes , less than 5% ! Are you just illustrating the Christian Jesus myth is so obviously ludicrous that not many are convinced by it ? Not at all , I’m illustrating the point to my post and it’s relevence to the thread " I can't see the relevance of you suggesting many people claim to be Christian but do not practice ? I think the thread was suggesting it's rather daft to believe the propaganda telling us that Islam will take over the UK I'm sure how illustrating our secular country is turning away from believing fairly tails and being more A without Theistic belief in a god Or open to new data that may convince but not believing or blindly following any unconvincing doctrine To me your illustration of declining Christianity would lead to me to think Islamic following may decline in 50 years not increase x | |||
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"So maybe that they are referring to boroughs or towns or cities rather than Britain as a whole. 'Statistics, the proportion of Muslims in London had risen to 12.4% of the population (21% of England's Muslims). In the boroughs of Newham and Tower Hamlets, the percentages of Muslims were over 30%.' Source: The independent. Just playing devils advocate " Well anyone who thinks what happens in a shit hole like tower hamlets is representative of the entire country shouldn't be self identifying as an "independent thinker". | |||
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"So maybe that they are referring to boroughs or towns or cities rather than Britain as a whole. 'Statistics, the proportion of Muslims in London had risen to 12.4% of the population (21% of England's Muslims). In the boroughs of Newham and Tower Hamlets, the percentages of Muslims were over 30%.' Source: The independent. Just playing devils advocate Well anyone who thinks what happens in a shit hole like tower hamlets is representative of the entire country shouldn't be self identifying as an "independent thinker". " You sound angry, I wouldn't let people's opinions affect me in such a negative way. Just ignore, it's only an opinion of theirs and they believe theirs with as much conviction as you believe yours. Arguing with them wouldn't change your opinion and neither will you coming on here and having a rant change their's. It's pointless, a waste of energy. Rather be thinking of positive things personally! Xxx | |||
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