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Men, but not women?

By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

So a while ago I met up with a man (who is no longer on fab and is ‘behaving’) who I already knew in the vanilla world. Had known him for years but we weren’t friends or anything.

We met up a few times and one night we went for a drive. He had already told me his ex wife kicked him out for cheating - I just didn’t realise the extent of it.

Won’t go into details but basically, while I was sat in his car, he moaned about his girlfriend (oh, I didn’t know she existed!) and how she’s so moody, fair enough considering she’s due his baby in three weeks (baby is a few months old now).

So, trying to be the understanding, lovely gal that I am, I didn’t freak out (although I did demand he took me home), and instead asked him a tone of questions.

One of them being, would he ever consider swinging with his partner, if she wanted it? Nope! He would consider it, but only if she slept with women, and he could watch and join in. But he could sleep with whoever he wanted, of course.

I asked why, and he said that he wasn’t secure enough to ‘allow’ her to sleep with other men.

Now, I’ve spoken to a few men (granted, not the regular male formites) who have said pretty much the same thing.

Why are other men considered a threat, but not women?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Apologies if there’s any typos - my hands are frozen!

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By *r.BlondeMan over a year ago

Chester/Wirral

"So a while ago I met up with a man (who is no longer on fab and is ‘behaving’) who I already knew in the vanilla world. Had known him for years but we weren’t friends or anything.

We met up a few times and one night we went for a drive. He had already told me his ex wife kicked him out for cheating - I just didn’t realise the extent of it.

So, trying to be the understanding, lovely gal that I am, I didn’t freak out (although I did demand he took me home), and instead asked him a tone of questions.

I asked why, and he said that he wasn’t secure enough to ‘allow’ her to sleep with other men.

Now, I’ve spoken to a few men (granted, not the regular male formites) who have said pretty much the same thing.

Why are other men considered a threat, but not women?"
But because most women might sleep with a lady but never have a relationship with 1.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"So a while ago I met up with a man (who is no longer on fab and is ‘behaving’) who I already knew in the vanilla world. Had known him for years but we weren’t friends or anything.

We met up a few times and one night we went for a drive. He had already told me his ex wife kicked him out for cheating - I just didn’t realise the extent of it.

So, trying to be the understanding, lovely gal that I am, I didn’t freak out (although I did demand he took me home), and instead asked him a tone of questions.

I asked why, and he said that he wasn’t secure enough to ‘allow’ her to sleep with other men.

Now, I’ve spoken to a few men (granted, not the regular male formites) who have said pretty much the same thing.

Why are other men considered a threat, but not women?

But because most women might sleep with a lady but never have a relationship with 1."

And?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Ugg other man bash me over head take woman to his cave

Ungawa

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By *r.BlondeMan over a year ago

Chester/Wirral

"So a while ago I met up with a man (who is no longer on fab and is ‘behaving’) who I already knew in the vanilla world. Had known him for years but we weren’t friends or anything.

We met up a few times and one night we went for a drive. He had already told me his ex wife kicked him out for cheating - I just didn’t realise the extent of it.

So, trying to be the understanding, lovely gal that I am, I didn’t freak out (although I did demand he took me home), and instead asked him a tone of questions.

I asked why, and he said that he wasn’t secure enough to ‘allow’ her to sleep with other men.

Now, I’ve spoken to a few men (granted, not the regular male formites) who have said pretty much the same thing.

Why are other men considered a threat, but not women?

But because most women might sleep with a lady but never have a relationship with 1.

And?"
Hence they don't fear losing their wife/gf to another woman but possibly to another man.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"So a while ago I met up with a man (who is no longer on fab and is ‘behaving’) who I already knew in the vanilla world. Had known him for years but we weren’t friends or anything.

We met up a few times and one night we went for a drive. He had already told me his ex wife kicked him out for cheating - I just didn’t realise the extent of it.

So, trying to be the understanding, lovely gal that I am, I didn’t freak out (although I did demand he took me home), and instead asked him a tone of questions.

I asked why, and he said that he wasn’t secure enough to ‘allow’ her to sleep with other men.

Now, I’ve spoken to a few men (granted, not the regular male formites) who have said pretty much the same thing.

Why are other men considered a threat, but not women?

But because most women might sleep with a lady but never have a relationship with 1.

And?

Hence they don't fear losing their wife/gf to another woman but possibly to another man."

Right

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By *rsSBWoman over a year ago

toy town

MrBlonde, I can speak for other women but I could have a relationship with another woman beyond sex

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Men are naturally combative competition is thrown at us genarally from birth be it a sport teem or compared in size hight weight in the playground hence cock envy not all but most well at least thats what ithink

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So a while ago I met up with a man (who is no longer on fab and is ‘behaving’) who I already knew in the vanilla world. Had known him for years but we weren’t friends or anything.

We met up a few times and one night we went for a drive. He had already told me his ex wife kicked him out for cheating - I just didn’t realise the extent of it.

So, trying to be the understanding, lovely gal that I am, I didn’t freak out (although I did demand he took me home), and instead asked him a tone of questions.

I asked why, and he said that he wasn’t secure enough to ‘allow’ her to sleep with other men.

Now, I’ve spoken to a few men (granted, not the regular male formites) who have said pretty much the same thing.

Why are other men considered a threat, but not women? But because most women might sleep with a lady but never have a relationship with 1."
"This" . I would definitely feel more secure with someone I loved sleeping ladies then I would men .

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By *uttyjonnMan over a year ago

SEA

A woman should not have a bigger cock than them

Also insecurity and controlling by behaviour

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"MrBlonde, I cant speak for other women but I could have a relationship with another woman beyond sex"

Me too. Ahh well

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By *r.BlondeMan over a year ago

Chester/Wirral

"MrBlonde, I can speak for other women but I could have a relationship with another woman beyond sex"
yeah I'm sure some would but I think the majority wouldn't.

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By *ynecplCouple over a year ago

Newcastle upon Tyne

Because they are both insecure and want their cake and eat it. Happy to shag other women but would hate to have another guy shag their partner they would see them as a threat.

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By *ire_bladeMan over a year ago

Manchester

Because most blokes don't like shareing there toys but there's always an exception to every rule

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"MrBlonde, I can speak for other women but I could have a relationship with another woman beyond sex

yeah I'm sure some would but I think the majority wouldn't."

Why not?

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By *rsSBWoman over a year ago

toy town

"Because most blokes don't like shareing there toys but there's always an exception to every rule

Selfish boys

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I'd hazard a guess that the guys who are most paranoid about this (leaving aside the vast swathe of perfectly normal vanilla guys who'd spit their tea out if you asked if you could fuck another guy)... are those who are insecure that all they bring to their relationship is their cock and that another guy with a bigger cock could easily lure their woman away.

I guess at its basis men worry that their women are as promiscuous minded as them. Why? Because they're pretty fucking promiscuous minded haha

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By *r.BlondeMan over a year ago

Chester/Wirral

"MrBlonde, I can speak for other women but I could have a relationship with another woman beyond sex

yeah I'm sure some would but I think the majority wouldn't.

Why not?"
I'm not too sure, they prefer men more, they are into more of a conventional relationship etc etc just think it is the case.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"I'd hazard a guess that the guys who are most paranoid about this (leaving aside the vast swathe of perfectly normal vanilla guys who'd spit their tea out if you asked if you could fuck another guy)... are those who are insecure that all they bring to their relationship is their cock and that another guy with a bigger cock could easily lure their woman away.

I guess at its basis men worry that their women are as promiscuous minded as them. Why? Because they're pretty fucking promiscuous minded haha

It’s daft

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"MrBlonde, I can speak for other women but I could have a relationship with another woman beyond sex

yeah I'm sure some would but I think the majority wouldn't.

Why not?

I'm not too sure, they prefer men more, they are into more of a conventional relationship etc etc just think it is the case. "

Right..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Because they are both insecure and want their cake and eat it. Happy to shag other women but would hate to have another guy shag their partner they would see them as a threat."
Probaby true

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

MFFFFFFFFF... Good

FMMMMMM... Bad

It's not for no reason that terrorists aren't told when they get to heaven they'll join a tag team of guys fucking one woman

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So a while ago I met up with a man (who is no longer on fab and is ‘behaving’) who I already knew in the vanilla world. Had known him for years but we weren’t friends or anything.

We met up a few times and one night we went for a drive. He had already told me his ex wife kicked him out for cheating - I just didn’t realise the extent of it.

So, trying to be the understanding, lovely gal that I am, I didn’t freak out (although I did demand he took me home), and instead asked him a tone of questions.

I asked why, and he said that he wasn’t secure enough to ‘allow’ her to sleep with other men.

Now, I’ve spoken to a few men (granted, not the regular male formites) who have said pretty much the same thing.

Why are other men considered a threat, but not women?

But because most women might sleep with a lady but never have a relationship with 1.

And?"

There's no danger the wife/gf will leave him for her.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"MFFFFFFFFF... Good

FMMMMMM... Bad

It's not for no reason that terrorists aren't told when they get to heaven they'll join a tag team of guys fucking one woman

My husband is more than happy for me to have a FMMMMMM, and he doesn’t mind if he’s involved or not

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

My husband and I had this discussion the other day. We're both totally open (however I don't meet a lot of men because I prefer me some lady time

)

We've been together forever and there is so much more to our relationship than sex. We're best friends and, at the risk of sounding stupidly cheesey, total soul mates.

We have amazing sex but aren't we all here just to have a good time? Does that mean we shouldn't have amazing sex with other people? At least enjoy a fucking rather than life giving us one haha.

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By *ire_bladeMan over a year ago

Manchester

"Because most blokes don't like shareing there toys but there's always an exception to every rule

Selfish boys

Got to get points for honesty though

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I don’t understand it myself. I’ve had it with a ex- who I met on the scene. He would shit a brick if a guy even looked at me. He would have my phone codes etc to check I wasn’t cheating on him but his phone would always be out of sight. I see it as them being insecure

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By *rsSBWoman over a year ago

toy town

"Because most blokes don't like shareing there toys but there's always an exception to every rule

Selfish boys

Got to get points for honesty though

Always

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By *rsSBWoman over a year ago

toy town

"I don’t understand it myself. I’ve had it with a ex- who I met on the scene. He would shit a brick if a guy even looked at me. He would have my phone codes etc to check I wasn’t cheating on him but his phone would always be out of sight. I see it as them being insecure "

That's selfish

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"MrBlonde, I can speak for other women but I could have a relationship with another woman beyond sex

yeah I'm sure some would but I think the majority wouldn't.

Why not? I'm not too sure, they prefer men more, they are into more of a conventional relationship etc etc just think it is the case. "

Yeah I think this too. I could never “be” with a woman. It’s purely a physical thing for me. Just a bit of fun. Totally different with men though. Just my view on it.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I guess at its basis men worry that their women are as promiscuous minded as them. Why? Because they're pretty fucking promiscuous minded haha

It’s daft"

Depending on how you look at it it's either a very low opinion of women (they're only in it for the cock, they don't really value the guy as a person, and they'd easily jump ship and be disloyal)... or it's a damming indictment of how the man himself thinks and his nervousness that women think the same

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Why the hell would you get into sharing yourself and your partner with ANYONE if you don't trust your other half?!?! Personally, I think people that can't trust can't be trusted.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Men like watching two women get it on more than a man and a woman?

The porn men watch in the main is either lesbian or extremes and they don't want to see their partner getting their holes destroyed by a 10 inch cock.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I guess at its basis men worry that their women are as promiscuous minded as them. Why? Because they're pretty fucking promiscuous minded haha

It’s daft

Not nervousness...paranoia.

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By *astings SocialWoman over a year ago

Hastings

"Because they are both insecure and want their cake and eat it. Happy to shag other women but would hate to have another guy shag their partner they would see them as a threat."

This

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Why the hell would you get into sharing yourself and your partner with ANYONE if you don't trust your other half?!?! Personally, I think people that can't trust can't be trusted.

Oooo yes I agree

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Men like watching two women get it on more than a man and a woman?

The porn men watch in the main is either lesbian or extremes and they don't want to see their partner getting their holes destroyed by a 10 inch cock. "

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By *reendanMan over a year ago

Norwich

Coming from a Polyamorous background it's a very odd position. The idea that I'd be allowed to sleep with whoever, but limit that freedom in my partner is pretty much anathema to me.

I guess people aren't quite as confident in themselves or relationships as they should be before entering such an arrangement.

Having said that, as long as everyone in the relationship is happy and getting their needs met that's the important thing.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I’m guessing women aren’t a direct comparator to them, so a woman won’t necessarily be more muscly, more toned, have a better cock, last longer and fuck better on a like for like basis than another guy would.

Maybe that’s part of it? I dunno? Not wanting to look inadequate versus the other guy? (Although I also know some other guys LOVE the idea of their Mrs being nailed by a ‘better’ alpha male, so it’s swings and roundabouts I guess?)

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By *loswingersCouple over a year ago

Gloucester

It’s obvious that most men wouldn’t think a female partner may leave him for a woman . If he thought she might as her leaning wasn’t more towards women than men , I doubt he would be with her in the first place .

Well at least that’s how I see it , and I would guess most men would think the same way . But then again with the current thinking in society , and people identifying from 64 different gender types , the younger generation may see things differently .

Having said that , he didn’t , and I’m guessing he’s younger ?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

We’ve played with single guys who have had sex with L but have said they could never share if they had their own partner. Not sure if it’s insecurity or if they can’t handle the jealousy.

We like to think a man has to be mentally strong and confident to share their partner which is counterintuitive to what most people would think.

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By *r.BlondeMan over a year ago

Chester/Wirral

Probably works the opposite way though and the woman will be saying to herself she can have as much cock as she likes an not only does her husband/bf let her he actually enjoys it.

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By *ty31Man over a year ago

NW London

I think that there's more stigma attached to a guys sexual prowess than there is on women.

Hence if a guy lets another guy play with his partner there's more insecurity involved regarding the other guy being "better" than him.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So a while ago I met up with a man (who is no longer on fab and is ‘behaving’) who I already knew in the vanilla world. Had known him for years but we weren’t friends or anything.

We met up a few times and one night we went for a drive. He had already told me his ex wife kicked him out for cheating - I just didn’t realise the extent of it.

So, trying to be the understanding, lovely gal that I am, I didn’t freak out (although I did demand he took me home), and instead asked him a tone of questions.

I asked why, and he said that he wasn’t secure enough to ‘allow’ her to sleep with other men.

Now, I’ve spoken to a few men (granted, not the regular male formites) who have said pretty much the same thing.

Why are other men considered a threat, but not women?"
for the same reasoning couples prefer women the man doesn't feel threatened and he wants to see his partner with another woman, many men in couples not all feel uncomfortable with another guy and some not all wouldn’t trust their partner with another guy as a twosome

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So a while ago I met up with a man (who is no longer on fab and is ‘behaving’) who I already knew in the vanilla world. Had known him for years but we weren’t friends or anything.

We met up a few times and one night we went for a drive. He had already told me his ex wife kicked him out for cheating - I just didn’t realise the extent of it.

So, trying to be the understanding, lovely gal that I am, I didn’t freak out (although I did demand he took me home), and instead asked him a tone of questions.

I asked why, and he said that he wasn’t secure enough to ‘allow’ her to sleep with other men.

Now, I’ve spoken to a few men (granted, not the regular male formites) who have said pretty much the same thing.

Why are other men considered a threat, but not women?"

Whole number of reasons, but selfish men like that are also too arrogant to realise a woman could just replace them as easily as a guy, and also their cocks are telling them it's worth the risk as they might get ffm or extra fanny. Bizarrely quite a few men don't even count woman on woman as cheating, lol. And even more will allow their woman to have sex with another woman, obviously for the guys benefit, but not men. They aren't swingers their selfish picks.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So a while ago I met up with a man (who is no longer on fab and is ‘behaving’) who I already knew in the vanilla world. Had known him for years but we weren’t friends or anything.

We met up a few times and one night we went for a drive. He had already told me his ex wife kicked him out for cheating - I just didn’t realise the extent of it.

So, trying to be the understanding, lovely gal that I am, I didn’t freak out (although I did demand he took me home), and instead asked him a tone of questions.

I asked why, and he said that he wasn’t secure enough to ‘allow’ her to sleep with other men.

Now, I’ve spoken to a few men (granted, not the regular male formites) who have said pretty much the same thing.

Why are other men considered a threat, but not women?for the same reasoning couples prefer women the man doesn't feel threatened and he wants to see his partner with another woman, many men in couples not all feel uncomfortable with another guy and some not all wouldn’t trust their partner with another guy as a twosome "

We’ve seen couples like that where the guy can’t handle swapping MFMF but he wants FFM.

Also if you are worried about your partner running off with someone after a shag then your relationship can’t but that strong and you shouldn’t be on a swinging site.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Interesting question. As an aside, are couples where only the woman plays, viewed in a different way to couples where only the man plays?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Can I put a different slant on this.

Why is it seen bi( intended/) a bi women or curious,having sex with another female( curious or other) ok,but generally somewhat strange or a variety of other more offensive terms,used/ seen if a male is bi curious or actively sexual ,aligned with the previous post ,why so many men like there female halves to romp with other females,when we know so many guys love the idea( but many not the reality!) of them enjoying another male giving there wife etc a good s*****g indeed it is " cake& eat it" also fear that somehow there lose there partners over a good settion /s( isn't that the idea of a swinging site or does this not reek of double standards in more that two ways?? Maybe there's two ( two seems a popular number?) suggestions- either fully accept it works bothways& that means,bi male or female is mutually "equality" & face up to it,or consider also accepting your not monogamous,preferring a serious open relationship& or thirdly there's no mutual respect for eachother,commonly called( having a choice & considering all possibilities before venturing into sex with another,its hardly rocket science that males far outweigh the females,as they mostly?( males) in the modern world of equality& diversity appear to think its they who dictate, written bi a male who also understands many males openly& secretly agree with myself,site admin take note? There is no option for " open-minded or flexible in gender ,its one specification only,or lengthy profiles& misunderstandings ( curiosity is just edging / grey area,same for females who maybe unsure to of course if they find they exp a bi sexual foray pleasurably supprises them beyond there expected society "norms" how awful?

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By *loswingersCouple over a year ago

Gloucester

"Can I put a different slant on this.

Huh ?

Are you asking for more of the 64 genders to be made available on profiles ?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Interesting question. As an aside, are couples where only the woman plays, viewed in a different way to couples where only the man plays?

Are there couples where only the man plays? If so they seem really rare . For FFM we always assume both the male/female of the couple are playing.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So a while ago I met up with a man (who is no longer on fab and is ‘behaving’) who I already knew in the vanilla world. Had known him for years but we weren’t friends or anything.

We met up a few times and one night we went for a drive. He had already told me his ex wife kicked him out for cheating - I just didn’t realise the extent of it.

So, trying to be the understanding, lovely gal that I am, I didn’t freak out (although I did demand he took me home), and instead asked him a tone of questions.

I asked why, and he said that he wasn’t secure enough to ‘allow’ her to sleep with other men.

Now, I’ve spoken to a few men (granted, not the regular male formites) who have said pretty much the same thing.

We’ve seen couples like that where the guy can’t handle swapping MFMF but he wants FFM.

Also if you are worried about your partner running off with someone after a shag then your relationship can’t but that strong and you shouldn’t be on a swinging site. "
Well exactly and some couples aren't strong enough to do this and it causes problems as you probably know

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

No I'm not suggesting the 64 gender orientations be available as an option by the site admins?

Just an option to a black or white tick box ( straight or bi- sexual or curious?) why not an " open mind or " no answer"? Blank box??Ps there is tv/ ts& a few others,but not your 64,so why not just straight or other?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So a while ago I met up with a man (who is no longer on fab and is ‘behaving’) who I already knew in the vanilla world. Had known him for years but we weren’t friends or anything.

We met up a few times and one night we went for a drive. He had already told me his ex wife kicked him out for cheating - I just didn’t realise the extent of it.

So, trying to be the understanding, lovely gal that I am, I didn’t freak out (although I did demand he took me home), and instead asked him a tone of questions.

I asked why, and he said that he wasn’t secure enough to ‘allow’ her to sleep with other men.

Now, I’ve spoken to a few men (granted, not the regular male formites) who have said pretty much the same thing.

Why are other men considered a threat, but not women?"

That is called being a c*nt and wanting to have your cake and eat it. Men seeing two women together is a fairly common fantasy plus it means he gets to play with and fuck any women they meet together but means he doesn’t have to ‘allow’ ‘his’ woman to play or have sex with other men.x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Interesting question. As an aside, are couples where only the woman plays, viewed in a different way to couples where only the man plays?

Are there couples where only the man plays? If so they seem really rare . For FFM we always assume both the male/female of the couple are playing. "

I've seen a few cuckquean profiles.

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By *riefcase_WankerMan over a year ago

Milton Keynes

I think I'd probably feel more threatened by another woman than another guy tbh.

I mean sure - I'm not that tall, or toned and I certainly don't have a stunt cock, but I reckon pit me against other guys and in the grand scheme of things I'm probably in the "not that bad" category...

But head-to-head against a girl, I'm not sure I fancy my chances...plus can you imagine the sort of hang-ups you could develop..."so bad you put her off men dude!"

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So a while ago I met up with a man (who is no longer on fab and is ‘behaving’) who I already knew in the vanilla world. Had known him for years but we weren’t friends or anything.

We met up a few times and one night we went for a drive. He had already told me his ex wife kicked him out for cheating - I just didn’t realise the extent of it.

So, trying to be the understanding, lovely gal that I am, I didn’t freak out (although I did demand he took me home), and instead asked him a tone of questions.

I asked why, and he said that he wasn’t secure enough to ‘allow’ her to sleep with other men.

Now, I’ve spoken to a few men (granted, not the regular male formites) who have said pretty much the same thing.

Why are other men considered a threat, but not women?

But because most women might sleep with a lady but never have a relationship with 1.

And? Hence they don't fear losing their wife/gf to another woman but possibly to another man."

This ^

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So a while ago I met up with a man (who is no longer on fab and is ‘behaving’) who I already knew in the vanilla world. Had known him for years but we weren’t friends or anything.

We met up a few times and one night we went for a drive. He had already told me his ex wife kicked him out for cheating - I just didn’t realise the extent of it.

So, trying to be the understanding, lovely gal that I am, I didn’t freak out (although I did demand he took me home), and instead asked him a tone of questions.

I asked why, and he said that he wasn’t secure enough to ‘allow’ her to sleep with other men.

Now, I’ve spoken to a few men (granted, not the regular male formites) who have said pretty much the same thing.

Why are other men considered a threat, but not women?

It completely the wrong way round as well and shows how delusional most men are.

Two women will leave one man in a crumpled mess and still be looking for more. Two men will be able to keep up with one woman, just, and everyone will be satisfied.

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By *hill44Man over a year ago

hinckley

"So a while ago I met up with a man (who is no longer on fab and is ‘behaving’) who I already knew in the vanilla world. Had known him for years but we weren’t friends or anything.

We met up a few times and one night we went for a drive. He had already told me his ex wife kicked him out for cheating - I just didn’t realise the extent of it.

So, trying to be the understanding, lovely gal that I am, I didn’t freak out (although I did demand he took me home), and instead asked him a tone of questions.

I asked why, and he said that he wasn’t secure enough to ‘allow’ her to sleep with other men.

Now, I’ve spoken to a few men (granted, not the regular male formites) who have said pretty much the same thing.

Why are other men considered a threat, but not women?"

Don't get it myself what's good for one in a relationship is good for the other only seems fair to me

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"It’s obvious that most men wouldn’t think a female partner may leave him for a woman . If he thought she might as her leaning wasn’t more towards women than men , I doubt he would be with her in the first place .

Having said that , he didn’t , and I’m guessing he’s younger ? "

He’s in his forties

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

I just think it’s totally daft IMO

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Il know myself if im faced with it

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Insecure little boys.

The end.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

From a married couples point of few and from a couple that swing I think this blokes outlook on it is so WRONG! To be fair I’ve seen it on more than my fair share of couples profiles on here. The couple only looking for unicorns! We don’t exist, we are not here to put on a show to turn your hubby/boyfriend, fuck buddy on. I’m here because I want to genuinely have sex with another woman. This is why I prefer single women rather than couples.

Friday Rant Over

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So a while ago I met up with a man (who is no longer on fab and is ‘behaving’) who I already knew in the vanilla world. Had known him for years but we weren’t friends or anything.

We met up a few times and one night we went for a drive. He had already told me his ex wife kicked him out for cheating - I just didn’t realise the extent of it.

So, trying to be the understanding, lovely gal that I am, I didn’t freak out (although I did demand he took me home), and instead asked him a tone of questions.

I asked why, and he said that he wasn’t secure enough to ‘allow’ her to sleep with other men.

Now, I’ve spoken to a few men (granted, not the regular male formites) who have said pretty much the same thing.

Why are other men considered a threat, but not women?"

Because that is his fantasy, watching her. None of it is about her pleasure. These type of men make me glad I'm single. What a POS.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So a while ago I met up with a man (who is no longer on fab and is ‘behaving’) who I already knew in the vanilla world. Had known him for years but we weren’t friends or anything.

We met up a few times and one night we went for a drive. He had already told me his ex wife kicked him out for cheating - I just didn’t realise the extent of it.

So, trying to be the understanding, lovely gal that I am, I didn’t freak out (although I did demand he took me home), and instead asked him a tone of questions.

I asked why, and he said that he wasn’t secure enough to ‘allow’ her to sleep with other men.

Now, I’ve spoken to a few men (granted, not the regular male formites) who have said pretty much the same thing.

Why are other men considered a threat, but not women?

It completely the wrong way round as well and shows how delusional most men are.

Two women will leave one man in a crumpled mess and still be looking for more. Two men will be able to keep up with one woman, just, and everyone will be satisfied.

Couldn’t agree more but this guy sounds like he has one hell of an ego and would probably think that he’d leave both women thoroughly satisfied and bowing down to his godlike virility

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By *imandher84Couple over a year ago

Leeds

The mother of my children, the love of my life and my best friend.

Pfft if i thought someone was able to even put a scratch in us never mind break us we wouldn't be in this world.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Insecure little boys.

The end. "

Yes!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

For me, who my other half plays with is a control thing

I like to know

We play together and apart

I am not controlling, but I like to be in control (if that makes sense)

and it's also a jealousy / selfish thing

I don't mind him playing on his own as long as I don't fancy the 3rd party and am excluded from the play

So I like to see who he's meeting and say yes you can or no you can't

put like that, maybe I am controlling

Either way, the way we play works for both of us

You won't get a more honest answer than that

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"For me, who my other half plays with is a control thing

I like to know

We play together and apart

I am not controlling, but I like to be in control (if that makes sense)

and it's also a jealousy / selfish thing

I don't mind him playing on his own as long as I don't fancy the 3rd party and am excluded from the play

So I like to see who he's meeting and say yes you can or no you can't

put like that, maybe I am controlling

Either way, the way we play works for both of us

You won't get a more honest answer than that "

It’s honest but doesn’t answer my question

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"For me, who my other half plays with is a control thing

I like to know

We play together and apart

I am not controlling, but I like to be in control (if that makes sense)

and it's also a jealousy / selfish thing

I don't mind him playing on his own as long as I don't fancy the 3rd party and am excluded from the play

So I like to see who he's meeting and say yes you can or no you can't

put like that, maybe I am controlling

Either way, the way we play works for both of us

You won't get a more honest answer than that

It’s honest but doesn’t answer my question

Well, a woman wouldn't really figure with him, so it's hard to say

He's gay, I'm bi

We have talked about meeting women together or a bi couple, but have never acted on it as I would never force him into a situation he found uncomfortable

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So a while ago I met up with a man (who is no longer on fab and is ‘behaving’) who I already knew in the vanilla world. Had known him for years but we weren’t friends or anything.

We met up a few times and one night we went for a drive. He had already told me his ex wife kicked him out for cheating - I just didn’t realise the extent of it.

So, trying to be the understanding, lovely gal that I am, I didn’t freak out (although I did demand he took me home), and instead asked him a tone of questions.

I asked why, and he said that he wasn’t secure enough to ‘allow’ her to sleep with other men.

Now, I’ve spoken to a few men (granted, not the regular male formites) who have said pretty much the same thing.

Why are other men considered a threat, but not women?

But because most women might sleep with a lady but never have a relationship with 1.

And? Hence they don't fear losing their wife/gf to another woman but possibly to another man."

This.

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By *xMFM3sumsxxWoman over a year ago

SouthWest Lancashire

My opinion is that the type of man in your OP only sees other men as a threat, someone to compete with, and see women as lesser people.

She isn't even allowed to control her own sexualiy. By lying to her and doing things behind her back they aren't even in a relationship because he's actig like he's single and doing whatever he wants.

He's just garbage. Plenty of men are like him.

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By *xMFM3sumsxxWoman over a year ago

SouthWest Lancashire

I need a new laptop, this keyboard is shit, sorry about the missing letters...

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"My opinion is that the type of man in your OP only sees other men as a threat, someone to compete with, and see women as lesser people.

He's just garbage. Plenty of men are like him."

Yep!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I'd more likely run off with a lady but never consider it with a man

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"I'd more likely run off with a lady but never consider it with a man

Me too

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

So some men/women don’t like their partner shagging someone else but are happy to be banged harder than a drum at an ac/dc concert, get a grip and watch your partner get used like a new mop in a supermarket and stop moaning about it.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"So some men/women don’t like their partner shagging someone else but are happy to be banged harder than a drum at an ac/dc concert, get a grip and watch your partner get used like a new mop in a supermarket and stop moaning about it."

Thank you for that input x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

If I was in a swinging couple I think it would be more a couples swapping type thing or having some join as MMF or MFF, rather than both having solo meets.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"If I was in a swinging couple I think it would be more a couples swapping type thing or having some join as MMF or MFF, rather than both having solo meets. "

Aye I getcha

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I think it’s insecurity, not being able to trust their partner because they know they aren’t trustworthy themselves, and also a sense of control.

It’s incredibly selfish to be okay with your partner sleeping with a woman, but not a woman.

I think it’s also about men feeling inadequate. If they were comfortable in their relationship and were 100% comfortable with swinging, there wouldn’t be an issue.

Those who are comfortable 100% don’t have such selfish rules I’m guessing.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

But not a man*** that should say!

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"I think it’s insecurity, not being able to trust their partner because they know they aren’t trustworthy themselves, and also a sense of control.

It’s incredibly selfish to be okay with your partner sleeping with a woman, but not a woman.

I think it’s also about men feeling inadequate. If they were comfortable in their relationship and were 100% comfortable with swinging, there wouldn’t be an issue.

Those who are comfortable 100% don’t have such selfish rules I’m guessing."

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"My opinion is that the type of man in your OP only sees other men as a threat, someone to compete with, and see women as lesser people.

He's just garbage. Plenty of men are like him."

Spot on.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The mother of my children, the love of my life and my best friend.

Pfft if i thought someone was able to even put a scratch in us never mind break us we wouldn't be in this world.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Ide love to see my wife with anougher man. Ive even spoke about it to her. Am i not normal then

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By *xMFM3sumsxxWoman over a year ago

SouthWest Lancashire

"My opinion is that the type of man in your OP only sees other men as a threat, someone to compete with, and see women as lesser people.

He's just garbage. Plenty of men are like him.

Spot on.

I agree with your not trustworthy comment as well, forgot about guys like that.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS over a year ago

Central

If it's 2 women it makes for extra potential shags for the man but other men deprive him.

It's insecurity and really common.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

At the end of day we have a bunch of supposedly tolerant people here criticising people for having personal insecurities and preferences - even if they are hypocritical in nature - that's what it means to be human.

Different personalities suit different styles of swinging.

Live and let live guys and girls.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

An undercurrent of manbashing too...I saw the word "garbage"

You tolerant people need a self check

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By *xMFM3sumsxxWoman over a year ago

SouthWest Lancashire

I never said i was tolerant of liars.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I never said i was tolerant of liars."

I didn't read it all but I think you went off on a mad tangent that included assumed adultery...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Ok I see the adultery..never mind.

It's still an intolerant opinion about the stereotypical male character that's been drawn here.

You people in the same breath will condemn toxic masculinity and then support it - the idea that men can't be insecure.

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By *xMFM3sumsxxWoman over a year ago

SouthWest Lancashire

"I never said i was tolerant of liars.

I didn't read it all but I think you went off on a mad tangent that included assumed adultery..."

His ex wife threw him out for cheating.

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By *xMFM3sumsxxWoman over a year ago

SouthWest Lancashire

"Ok I see the adultery..never mind.

It's still an intolerant opinion about the stereotypical male character that's been drawn here.

You people in the same breath will condemn toxic masculinity and then support it - the idea that men can't be insecure.

Fine, i'll explain.

Ok the story here is about a man, who is happy to cheat, is happy to dick other people while in a relationship but wouldn't like it if his partner did he same.

Sorry if he seems stereotypical of men to you but i did only say there are plenty of guys like this and not all men.

This topic is about a guy, so yeah my replies mention guys. I've not been in relatinships with women and all the women i know don't cheat on their partners so no experience from that side.

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By *r.BlondeMan over a year ago

Chester/Wirral

"Ok I see the adultery..never mind.

It's still an intolerant opinion about the stereotypical male character that's been drawn here.

You people in the same breath will condemn toxic masculinity and then support it - the idea that men can't be insecure.

Fine, i'll explain.

Ok the story here is about a man, who is happy to cheat, is happy to dick other people while in a relationship but wouldn't like it if his partner did he same.

Sorry if he seems stereotypical of men to you but i did only say there are plenty of guys like this and not all men.

This topic is about a guy, so yeah my replies mention guys. I've not been in relatinships with women and all the women i know don't cheat on their partners so no experience from that side."
Guys aren't cheating if they have their partners consent and their partner is participating though.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Sorry if he seems stereotypical of men to you

I won't waste my time with you as you have a capacity to twist everything (example quoted)....the thread evolved past the op to a general discussion. That's what my post is about and I'd like to see what more reasonable people think.

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By *xMFM3sumsxxWoman over a year ago

SouthWest Lancashire

"Ok I see the adultery..never mind.

It's still an intolerant opinion about the stereotypical male character that's been drawn here.

You people in the same breath will condemn toxic masculinity and then support it - the idea that men can't be insecure.

Fine, i'll explain.

Ok the story here is about a man, who is happy to cheat, is happy to dick other people while in a relationship but wouldn't like it if his partner did he same.

Sorry if he seems stereotypical of men to you but i did only say there are plenty of guys like this and not all men.

This topic is about a guy, so yeah my replies mention guys. I've not been in relatinships with women and all the women i know don't cheat on their partners so no experience from that side. Guys aren't cheating if they have their partners consent and their partner is participating though."

The OP says he got chucked out for cheating on his wife.

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By *xMFM3sumsxxWoman over a year ago

SouthWest Lancashire

Sorry if he seems stereotypical of men to you

Excep you accused me of being tolerant despiteme calling someone garbage.

I'm pedantic as fuck actually and not twisting anything.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Well use your pedantry to read it again.

It's a point general intolerance, why can't some men just be allowed to have their insecurities?

It's up to a couple how they mutually decide to do things.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple over a year ago

Basingstoke

I know SoulfulKinky will love this answer but we can explain this trait in terms of evolutionary psychology. Men and women have different risks and rewards from sex. For example, there are something like 5x more males that have exited the gene pool altogether for every 1 female who has.

The biggest risk to a man's genes is paternity fraud. Exchanging his resources for a baby without his genes. There's really no such thing as maternity fraud on any scale so womens concern is about being abandoned as soon as the sex is over. Gather resources with a infant is pretty difficult.

Therefore, it has never been in men's interest to share women sexually, but sometimes it has been better for a woman to allow her mating partner to have multiple sexy time partners, assuming he has to resources for all of them.

So it's all very well saying the men are pathetic, selfish etc, but it's mainly genetic. The average male brain hasn't really adapted to the changes in environment driven by the birth control revolution. Mine has because I'm an advanced human t-3000 model and that's why we swing and I love it.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I know SoulfulKinky will love this answer but we can explain this trait in terms of evolutionary psychology. Men and women have different risks and rewards from sex. For example, there are something like 5x more males that have exited the gene pool altogether for every 1 female who has.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

God I hate evolutionary psychology but at least that sounds credible

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By *onguentasticMan over a year ago

Ballymoney

I wouldn't mind a partner playing with another man at the end of the day if she wants yoh she will stay with you if she doesn't she won't and would be best away anyway

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By *r.BlondeMan over a year ago

Chester/Wirral

"Ok I see the adultery..never mind.

It's still an intolerant opinion about the stereotypical male character that's been drawn here.

You people in the same breath will condemn toxic masculinity and then support it - the idea that men can't be insecure.

Fine, i'll explain.

Ok the story here is about a man, who is happy to cheat, is happy to dick other people while in a relationship but wouldn't like it if his partner did he same.

Sorry if he seems stereotypical of men to you but i did only say there are plenty of guys like this and not all men.

This topic is about a guy, so yeah my replies mention guys. I've not been in relatinships with women and all the women i know don't cheat on their partners so no experience from that side. Guys aren't cheating if they have their partners consent and their partner is participating though.

The OP says he got chucked out for cheating on his wife."
Yeah I thought you meant couples who are just in to FFM sorry.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple over a year ago

Basingstoke

"God I hate evolutionary psychology but at least that sounds credible

Essentially, if you believe in evolution, there's no way for male indifference to paternity to evolve. It's impossible. So really, just ask yourself which is more likely in history - the mother or the father is uncertain. The rest follows from that...

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By *xMFM3sumsxxWoman over a year ago

SouthWest Lancashire

"Well use your pedantry to read it again.

It's a point general intolerance, why can't some men just be allowed to have their insecurities?

It's up to a couple how they mutually decide to do things. "

They can have their insecuruities, but like i also said if he is doing things without her knowing then they aren't a couple. They're two singles but only one of them knows it.

Sorry but i've been with too many dickheads to even care any more, i am 100% intolerant of people that lie to benefit themselves only. Actually stopped meeting on here because of it too.

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By *xMFM3sumsxxWoman over a year ago

SouthWest Lancashire

"God I hate evolutionary psychology but at least that sounds credible

But, before the days of paternity tests if a woman fucked loads of guys then potentially all those men might think that baby is theirs and so not kill it.

Some types of monkeys already do this, the females are promiscuous so that the males do not kill their babies because there's a chance that the baby might be theirs, and they do it sneakily behind the males backs so none of them know what they are up to.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Ok I see the adultery..never mind.

It's still an intolerant opinion about the stereotypical male character that's been drawn here.

You people in the same breath will condemn toxic masculinity and then support it - the idea that men can't be insecure.

Fine, i'll explain.

Ok the story here is about a man, who is happy to cheat, is happy to dick other people while in a relationship but wouldn't like it if his partner did he same.

Sorry if he seems stereotypical of men to you but i did only say there are plenty of guys like this and not all men.

This topic is about a guy, so yeah my replies mention guys. I've not been in relatinships with women and all the women i know don't cheat on their partners so no experience from that side. Guys aren't cheating if they have their partners consent and their partner is participating though.

The OP says he got chucked out for cheating on his wife."

He was indeed. She also warned the new girlfriend what had happened (she caught him on FaceTime to his ‘side piece’ while up in the night feeding their newborn) when she got pregnant with his child. A friendly warning, as they get on great (which is very very big and amazing of ex wife).

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By *xMFM3sumsxxWoman over a year ago

SouthWest Lancashire

"Ok I see the adultery..never mind.

It's still an intolerant opinion about the stereotypical male character that's been drawn here.

You people in the same breath will condemn toxic masculinity and then support it - the idea that men can't be insecure.

Fine, i'll explain.

Ok the story here is about a man, who is happy to cheat, is happy to dick other people while in a relationship but wouldn't like it if his partner did he same.

Sorry if he seems stereotypical of men to you but i did only say there are plenty of guys like this and not all men.

This topic is about a guy, so yeah my replies mention guys. I've not been in relatinships with women and all the women i know don't cheat on their partners so no experience from that side. Guys aren't cheating if they have their partners consent and their partner is participating though.

The OP says he got chucked out for cheating on his wife.

Thanks for the clarification Queen.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Levosia, seeing as you raised it and contributed to the insecurity bashing, can you answer my question?

Why aren't men allowed to have insecurities ?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I get were your coming from OP, most men I’ve spoke to are cool with 2 woman. Myself personally I suggested to my ex about how I found it would turned me on to watch him with another woman, I don’t see it as an emotion it’s more as an enhancement and I’m very open minded, the mind thrill is huge to watch him with someone else. And vice versa, I’d love to one day have a partner who’s comfortable to watch me and me knowingly have another guy fuck me infront of my man knowing it’s turning us both on.

Not many get it.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Well use your pedantry to read it again.

It's a point general intolerance, why can't some men just be allowed to have their insecurities?

It's up to a couple how they mutually decide to do things. "

Men can have insecurities, it’s when you put them onto someone else that it’s a problem.

You can’t see anything wrong with a man wanting to fuck all and sundry but not agreeing to his partner doing the same? Insecurity or not, it’s twat behaviour.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

This thread wasn’t intended to be ‘male bashing’. There’s been very interesting responses (I agree with quite a few). Like I said in the OP, I have spoken to a few men who wouldn’t want their partner sleeping with another man, but a woman would be fine. Not all men are like this. As I’m well aware, as I’m sure everyone else is.

I just wanted to know why some men don’t see other women as a threat.

I had a conversation at work today and a man was telling me his ‘cow’ of an ex wife cheated on him with her best friend, and it made him feel disgusted because ‘it wasn’t even with a dude’. Which reminded me of the chap I met....

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"I get were your coming from OP, most men I’ve spoke to are cool with 2 woman. Myself personally I suggested to my ex about how I found it would turned me on to watch him with another woman, I don’t see it as an emotion it’s more as an enhancement and I’m very open minded, the mind thrill is huge to watch him with someone else. And vice versa, I’d love to one day have a partner who’s comfortable to watch me and me knowingly have another guy fuck me infront of my man knowing it’s turning us both on.

Not many get it. "

No, not many do. Thankfully though, some do. I hope you find someone though

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"God I hate evolutionary psychology but at least that sounds credible

Just to annoy you...plenty of species the male shoots his load and that's his job done, paternity is irrelevant, the female raises the offspring exclusively.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Why aren't men allowed to have insecurities ?

Where has anybody said this? I’d love to see.

It seems to me there are some fragile individuals who get burr hurt and take comments made as a whole, that might not even apply to them personal. And by taking it personal they start attacking everyone as if these people’s opinions are personally attacking them.

That’s an insecurity within itself.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Levosia, seeing as you raised it and contributed to the insecurity bashing, can you answer my question?

Why aren't men allowed to have insecurities ?

At what point did I say that at all? How silly. Of course they can. I’m pretty sure everyone can have insecurities. Not a problem at all. I just wanted peoples thoughts on why some men view other men as a threat, but not other women. Please don’t twist it

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple over a year ago

Basingstoke

"God I hate evolutionary psychology but at least that sounds credible

But, before the days of paternity tests if a woman fucked loads of guys then potentially all those men might think that baby is theirs and so not kill it.

Just not true I'm afraid. Just a nice myth spread by a fraud of a book called "sex at dawn" which has been debunked. It turns out the men would rather kill a baby that they thought might not be theirs, than risk raising one that still could be - but they aren't sure

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Well use your pedantry to read it again.

It's a point general intolerance, why can't some men just be allowed to have their insecurities?

It's up to a couple how they mutually decide to do things.

Men can have insecurities, it’s when you put them onto someone else that it’s a problem.

You can’t see anything wrong with a man wanting to fuck all and sundry but not agreeing to his partner doing the same? Insecurity or not, it’s twat behaviour. "

Yeah and she can agree to it or not. That's partnership.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Well use your pedantry to read it again.

It's a point general intolerance, why can't some men just be allowed to have their insecurities?

It's up to a couple how they mutually decide to do things.

Men can have insecurities, it’s when you put them onto someone else that it’s a problem.

You can’t see anything wrong with a man wanting to fuck all and sundry but not agreeing to his partner doing the same? Insecurity or not, it’s twat behaviour.

Yeah and she can agree to it or not. That's partnership. "

Partnership isn’t forcing your insecurities onto someone else.

If you’re going to do something, be prepared that your loved one might go and do the same. Can’t stand it? Don’t do it yourself.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

I love the t-3000 model

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Levosia, seeing as you raised it and contributed to the insecurity bashing, can you answer my question?

Why aren't men allowed to have insecurities ?

Read back through the thread and the tone of speech, it's clear as day...maybe not from you but from others.

Sidenote, are all your anecdotes are about bad men?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Levosia, seeing as you raised it and contributed to the insecurity bashing, can you answer my question?

Why aren't men allowed to have insecurities ?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Levosia, seeing as you raised it and contributed to the insecurity bashing, can you answer my question?

Why aren't men allowed to have insecurities ?

Read back through the thread and the tone of speech, it's clear as day...maybe not from you but from others.

Sidenote, are all your anecdotes are about bad men?"

No, I’ve met lovely men, I married a lovely, amazing man

And yes, I’ve read back. I’ve explained I didn’t make this thread with the intention of it becoming ‘male bashing’, and I didn’t contribute to ‘insecurity bashing’ at all.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple over a year ago

Basingstoke

"God I hate evolutionary psychology but at least that sounds credible

Just to annoy you...plenty of species the male shoots his load and that's his job done, paternity is irrelevant, the female raises the offspring exclusively. "

True but you won't find 9 month gestation periods and offspring that need 7

years parental supervision to have any chance of survival, in those species. Or 7 billion of them on the planet.

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By *xMFM3sumsxxWoman over a year ago

SouthWest Lancashire

"God I hate evolutionary psychology but at least that sounds credible

But, before the days of paternity tests if a woman fucked loads of guys then potentially all those men might think that baby is theirs and so not kill it.

I heard about it from Dr Robert Kapolsky during one of his lectures on molecular biology and not from a book about sex.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Why aren't men allowed to have insecurities ?

Where has anybody said this? I’d love to see.

That’s an insecurity within itself. "

Pot and kettle.

I'm also a t-3000 and have enjoyed open relationships.

I just don't like the tone of this thread from the usual cosseted anti-men types.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan over a year ago

salisbury

Isn't this all just the difference between swingers, and men who want to fuck more women? Whether they're married or not?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"God I hate evolutionary psychology but at least that sounds credible

Just to annoy you...plenty of species the male shoots his load and that's his job done, paternity is irrelevant, the female raises the offspring exclusively.

True but you won't find 9 month gestation periods and offspring that need 7

years parental supervision to have any chance of survival, in those species. Or 7 billion of them on the planet. "

Fair point...so it's human evolution not general evolution.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Why aren't men allowed to have insecurities ?

Where has anybody said this? I’d love to see.

That’s an insecurity within itself.

Pot and kettle.

I'm also a t-3000 and have enjoyed open relationships.

I just don't like the tone of this thread from the usual cosseted anti-men types. "

What’s the tone of this thread?

The one you’ve drummed up into your head because you feel personally attacked by what’s said?

I don’t see any anti men posts, I see people posting their opinions, but every time it involves a man, like clockwork someone has to come along and call it “man bashing”.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple over a year ago

Basingstoke

I love the t-3000 model

Well there's a nice evolutionary theory around that too. Not as clear cut as the previous one. But humans have never really been monogamous. So you get different mating strategies to deal with that reality. You can possessively guard the female and that can work. Or you can simply fuck her harder and get his spunk out and yours in, that can also work. I'm guessing my ancestors liked sloppy seconds.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

I love the t-3000 model

Sloppy seconds can be fun!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I love the t-3000 model

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By *xMFM3sumsxxWoman over a year ago

SouthWest Lancashire

Why aren't men allowed to have insecurities ?

Where has anybody said this? I’d love to see.

That’s an insecurity within itself.

Pot and kettle.

I'm also a t-3000 and have enjoyed open relationships.

I just don't like the tone of this thread from the usual cosseted anti-men types.

What’s the tone of this thread?

The one you’ve drummed up into your head because you feel personally attacked by what’s said?

I don’t see any anti men posts, I see people posting their opinions, but every time it involves a man, like clockwork someone has to come along and call it “man bashing”. "

I was only talking about the type of guys who i mentioned and not all men.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple over a year ago

Basingstoke

"God I hate evolutionary psychology but at least that sounds credible

Just to annoy you...plenty of species the male shoots his load and that's his job done, paternity is irrelevant, the female raises the offspring exclusively.

True but you won't find 9 month gestation periods and offspring that need 7

years parental supervision to have any chance of survival, in those species. Or 7 billion of them on the planet.

Fair point...so it's human evolution not general evolution. "

If you want to know how natural selection can work, then any species is interesting. But you'll see very different behaviour from the same species in different environments. Hence why 'sex at dawn' is a load of shit, because they cherry picked the behaviour of bonobos in one specific setting and completely ignored all the others.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple over a year ago

Basingstoke

I love the t-3000 model

Sloppy seconds can be fun!"

Or thirds or fourths. Whatever my great great great great great grandma was into

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Why aren't men allowed to have insecurities ?

Where has anybody said this? I’d love to see.

That’s an insecurity within itself.

Pot and kettle.

I'm also a t-3000 and have enjoyed open relationships.

I just don't like the tone of this thread from the usual cosseted anti-men types.

What’s the tone of this thread?

The one you’ve drummed up into your head because you feel personally attacked by what’s said?

I don’t see any anti men posts, I see people posting their opinions, but every time it involves a man, like clockwork someone has to come along and call it “man bashing”.

I was only talking about the type of guys who i mentioned and not all men.

Thing is, you talk about your own experiences on here and some quickly assume you mean *all* men.

Unless you write a disclaimer or specifically state *some* men, they automatically come to the conclusion that you must be talking about every single individual on earth who identifies as male.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Wow..so I just read all this and I don’t see any male bashing at all?

I haven’t been offended...but then again, I’m secure in my marriage and don’t see anyone as a ‘threat’

The guy QL met was a serial cheat, he moaned and moaned to her about how hard it is having to keep his cheating from his heavily pregnant girlfriend, oh how life is so cruel to him!

All QL asked is why some insecure men feel men fucking their partners are a threat, but women aren’t. Women are sexier than men, surely women are more likely to be the threat? So soft, lovely, beautiful...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

#notallmen !!!

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Wow..so I just read all this and I don’t see any male bashing at all?

I haven’t been offended...but then again, I’m secure in my marriage and don’t see anyone as a ‘threat’

The guy QL met was a serial cheat, he moaned and moaned to her about how hard it is having to keep his cheating from his heavily pregnant girlfriend, oh how life is so cruel to him!

I’d leave you for another women if I’m honest babe. They’re perfection. Love you x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Wow..so I just read all this and I don’t see any male bashing at all?

I haven’t been offended...but then again, I’m secure in my marriage and don’t see anyone as a ‘threat’

The guy QL met was a serial cheat, he moaned and moaned to her about how hard it is having to keep his cheating from his heavily pregnant girlfriend, oh how life is so cruel to him!

Thank you!!!

I was starting to wonder if there was a secret part of this thread where all this so called man bashing was hidden.

Glad it’s not just me who can’t it!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Insecure little boys.

The end.

Yes!"

Quoted for emphasis

Sustaining "toxic masculinity" 101 - be a big man not an insecure little boy.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Wow..so I just read all this and I don’t see any male bashing at all?

I haven’t been offended...but then again, I’m secure in my marriage and don’t see anyone as a ‘threat’

The guy QL met was a serial cheat, he moaned and moaned to her about how hard it is having to keep his cheating from his heavily pregnant girlfriend, oh how life is so cruel to him!

I’d leave you for another women if I’m honest babe. They’re perfection. Love you x"

Hahaha! I love you X

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Insecure little boys.

The end.

Yes!

Quoted for emphasis

Sustaining "toxic masculinity" 101 - be a big man not an insecure little boy.

Nothing wrong with being insecure. Nothing at all. I’m sure everyone is insecure about at least one thing or another.

What is silly, and makes them ‘little boys’ is cheating on their partners continuously, and then wanting to control who they sleep with, and ‘allowing’ your partner to sleep with another woman, purely so it could benefit you. It’s not fair to project your insecurities on to other people (yes, his partner wouldn’t have to agree, but he’s still going behind her back).

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Insecure little boys.

The end.

Yes!

Quoted for emphasis

Sustaining "toxic masculinity" 101 - be a big man not an insecure little boy.

Nothing wrong with being insecure. Nothing at all. I’m sure everyone is insecure about at least one thing or another.

Oh and moaning about how hard life is when you’re leading a double life. That’s my experience with ONE MAN. Do I think all men who are insecure are little boys? Of course not!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

All men are bastards....fact

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"All men are bastards....fact"

Not all men.

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By *obbo44Man over a year ago

Swansea

"So a while ago I met up with a man (who is no longer on fab and is ‘behaving’) who I already knew in the vanilla world. Had known him for years but we weren’t friends or anything.

We met up a few times and one night we went for a drive. He had already told me his ex wife kicked him out for cheating - I just didn’t realise the extent of it.

So, trying to be the understanding, lovely gal that I am, I didn’t freak out (although I did demand he took me home), and instead asked him a tone of questions.

I asked why, and he said that he wasn’t secure enough to ‘allow’ her to sleep with other men.

Now, I’ve spoken to a few men (granted, not the regular male formites) who have said pretty much the same thing.

Why are other men considered a threat, but not women?"

Because most of us including myself are jealous insecure creatures who don't like sharing but are happy to play with others its just pure jealousy I think and we don't want to do it .but if others are willing share then good on them but some of us couldn't we can't all be the same I guess

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"All men are bastards....fact"

Exactly. I’m sure the amazing and wonderful men outshine the bastards.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"So a while ago I met up with a man (who is no longer on fab and is ‘behaving’) who I already knew in the vanilla world. Had known him for years but we weren’t friends or anything.

We met up a few times and one night we went for a drive. He had already told me his ex wife kicked him out for cheating - I just didn’t realise the extent of it.

So, trying to be the understanding, lovely gal that I am, I didn’t freak out (although I did demand he took me home), and instead asked him a tone of questions.

I asked why, and he said that he wasn’t secure enough to ‘allow’ her to sleep with other men.

Now, I’ve spoken to a few men (granted, not the regular male formites) who have said pretty much the same thing.

Why are other men considered a threat, but not women?

Very honest answer - thank you

Until my husband suggested our open relationship and we discussed it, did research etc, I would never ever have dreamed of it.

Life would be boring if we were all the same!

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"All men are bastards....fact

Exactly. I’m sure the amazing and wonderful men outshine the bastards."

I read this wrong!

I read it as ‘not all men are bastards’...apologies!

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By *xMFM3sumsxxWoman over a year ago

SouthWest Lancashire

Why aren't men allowed to have insecurities ?

Where has anybody said this? I’d love to see.

That’s an insecurity within itself.

Pot and kettle.

I'm also a t-3000 and have enjoyed open relationships.

I just don't like the tone of this thread from the usual cosseted anti-men types.

What’s the tone of this thread?

The one you’ve drummed up into your head because you feel personally attacked by what’s said?

I don’t see any anti men posts, I see people posting their opinions, but every time it involves a man, like clockwork someone has to come along and call it “man bashing”.

I was only talking about the type of guys who i mentioned and not all men.

Thing is, you talk about your own experiences on here and some quickly assume you mean *all* men.

Unless you write a disclaimer or specifically state *some* men, they automatically come to the conclusion that you must be talking about every single individual on earth who identifies as male.

Well the topic has become fun now so i'm out haha.

Laters.

...really i'm busy on another site.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"All men are bastards....fact

Exactly. I’m sure the amazing and wonderful men outshine the bastards.

I read this wrong!

I read it as ‘not all men are bastards’...apologies!

So you agree?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

" Not a problem at all. I just wanted peoples thoughts on why some men view other men as a threat, but not other women.

You can see how it's confusing.....ye keep flip flopping the subject between cheating bastards with double standards and men who simply don't want to share and the reasons behind it

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"God I hate evolutionary psychology but at least that sounds credible

Just to annoy you...plenty of species the male shoots his load and that's his job done, paternity is irrelevant, the female raises the offspring exclusively.

True but you won't find 9 month gestation periods and offspring that need 7

years parental supervision to have any chance of survival, in those species. Or 7 billion of them on the planet.

Fair point...so it's human evolution not general evolution.

As mammals we are the only species that are “supposed” to be monagomous , no other mammal species are.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"All men are bastards....fact

Exactly. I’m sure the amazing and wonderful men outshine the bastards.

I read this wrong!

I read it as ‘not all men are bastards’...apologies!

So you agree?"

That all men are bastards? No!

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple over a year ago

Basingstoke

"So a while ago I met up with a man (who is no longer on fab and is ‘behaving’) who I already knew in the vanilla world. Had known him for years but we weren’t friends or anything.

We met up a few times and one night we went for a drive. He had already told me his ex wife kicked him out for cheating - I just didn’t realise the extent of it.

So, trying to be the understanding, lovely gal that I am, I didn’t freak out (although I did demand he took me home), and instead asked him a tone of questions.

I asked why, and he said that he wasn’t secure enough to ‘allow’ her to sleep with other men.

Now, I’ve spoken to a few men (granted, not the regular male formites) who have said pretty much the same thing.

Why are other men considered a threat, but not women?

Just give it 100,000 years or so and you'll get over it

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

" Not a problem at all. I just wanted peoples thoughts on why some men view other men as a threat, but not other women.

You can see how it's confusing.....ye keep flip flopping the subject between cheating bastards with double standards and men who simply don't want to share and the reasons behind it "

Because that is how the conversation came about when he told me he would only ‘allow’ his partner to sleep with other women, and only if he could watch and join it. Back story.

And conversations evolve. Some people will discuss their experiences (such as I have with one man) and others will share their opinions, and views.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"All men are bastards....fact

Exactly. I’m sure the amazing and wonderful men outshine the bastards.

I read this wrong!

I read it as ‘not all men are bastards’...apologies!

So you agree?

That all men are bastards? No!

I like you

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"All men are bastards....fact

Exactly. I’m sure the amazing and wonderful men outshine the bastards.

I read this wrong!

I read it as ‘not all men are bastards’...apologies!

So you agree?

That all men are bastards? No!

I like you

Feelings mutual

I love men

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By *obbo44Man over a year ago

Swansea

"So a while ago I met up with a man (who is no longer on fab and is ‘behaving’) who I already knew in the vanilla world. Had known him for years but we weren’t friends or anything.

We met up a few times and one night we went for a drive. He had already told me his ex wife kicked him out for cheating - I just didn’t realise the extent of it.

So, trying to be the understanding, lovely gal that I am, I didn’t freak out (although I did demand he took me home), and instead asked him a tone of questions.

I asked why, and he said that he wasn’t secure enough to ‘allow’ her to sleep with other men.

Now, I’ve spoken to a few men (granted, not the regular male formites) who have said pretty much the same thing.

Why are other men considered a threat, but not women?

Just give it 100,000 years or so and you'll get over it

I don't need to get over anything I am who I am ,I do what I'm comfortable with just like yourselves, there is no right and no wrong in the level someone wants to go to as long as everyone knows the score , some people enjoy watching the bird get smashed the fuck out of I personally couldn't take it as the green man inside me would explode I'm not hiding the fact I just couldn't take it , and I'm being honest about it , so I would never EVER put myself into a position like that but if others are willing to then great live and let live

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"So a while ago I met up with a man (who is no longer on fab and is ‘behaving’) who I already knew in the vanilla world. Had known him for years but we weren’t friends or anything.

We met up a few times and one night we went for a drive. He had already told me his ex wife kicked him out for cheating - I just didn’t realise the extent of it.

So, trying to be the understanding, lovely gal that I am, I didn’t freak out (although I did demand he took me home), and instead asked him a tone of questions.

I asked why, and he said that he wasn’t secure enough to ‘allow’ her to sleep with other men.

Now, I’ve spoken to a few men (granted, not the regular male formites) who have said pretty much the same thing.

Why are other men considered a threat, but not women?

Just give it 100,000 years or so and you'll get over it

Good for you!

(please don’t read that as sarcasm, it genuinely isn’t but ‘good for you’ almost always sounds that way)

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"All men are bastards....fact

Exactly. I’m sure the amazing and wonderful men outshine the bastards.

I read this wrong!

I read it as ‘not all men are bastards’...apologies!

So you agree?

That all men are bastards? No!

I like you

Feelings mutual

I love men"

I love men , not all men , just some

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By *lbert_shlossedMan over a year ago

Manchester

"Ugg other man bash me over head take woman to his cave

Ungawa "
.

I thought ungawa was only used by Tarzan to call for an elephant uprising.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Ugg other man bash me over head take woman to his cave

Ungawa .

I thought ungawa was only used by Tarzan to call for an elephant uprising.

Yeah I remember that

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By *lbert_shlossedMan over a year ago

Manchester

"Ugg other man bash me over head take woman to his cave

Ungawa .

I thought ungawa was only used by Tarzan to call for an elephant uprising.

Yeah I remember that"
.

Sadly that means your too old for here and your membership has been revoked

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"All men are bastards....fact

Exactly. I’m sure the amazing and wonderful men outshine the bastards.

I read this wrong!

I read it as ‘not all men are bastards’...apologies!

So you agree?

That all men are bastards? No!

I like you

Feelings mutual

I love men

I love men , not all men , just some

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"All men are bastards....fact

Exactly. I’m sure the amazing and wonderful men outshine the bastards.

I read this wrong!

I read it as ‘not all men are bastards’...apologies!

So you agree?

That all men are bastards? No!

I like you

Feelings mutual

I love men

I love men , not all men , just some

Especially handsome fookers with big penises, if they can make me laugh then bonus

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"My gf and I have talked about us both sharing a guy and a girl as a threesome (we are both bi, ) we have not endeavoured so far, we are very open with each other and both feel that while we are turned on by the concept of it we feel it would make us feel too insecure ( its a fairly new relationship )

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"All men are bastards....fact

Exactly. I’m sure the amazing and wonderful men outshine the bastards.

I read this wrong!

I read it as ‘not all men are bastards’...apologies!

So you agree?

That all men are bastards? No!

I like you

Feelings mutual

I love men

I love men , not all men , just some

Especially handsome fookers with big penises, if they can make me laugh then bonus

You need to get over your self young lady,

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"All men are bastards....fact

Exactly. I’m sure the amazing and wonderful men outshine the bastards.

I read this wrong!

I read it as ‘not all men are bastards’...apologies!

So you agree?

That all men are bastards? No!

I like you

Feelings mutual

I love men

I love men , not all men , just some

Especially handsome fookers with big penises, if they can make me laugh then bonus

I like em average! But I totally get you!

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