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Does success breed arrogance?
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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I guess the answer is sometimes. But I see all too often how success leads to confidence, then further success leads to arrogance. You can almost graph a curve whereby successful young cocky men eventually tip over the edge into arrogant middle aged twats. Your thoughts? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Depends on a lot of variables. I think the bigger danger than success is the being fawned over that can easily accompany it. That can change people in no time. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I sometimes see failure leading to whining, lack of responsibility and a sense of entitlement instead of overcoming adversity.
Maybe success just gives already arrogant people a platform to be heard? |
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By *ilkenWoman
over a year ago
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"I guess the answer is sometimes. But I see all too often how success leads to confidence, then further success leads to arrogance. You can almost graph a curve whereby successful young cocky men eventually tip over the edge into arrogant middle aged twats. Your thoughts? "
Not just men it happens with women too some people let success go to their heads at times. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I guess the answer is sometimes. But I see all too often how success leads to confidence, then further success leads to arrogance. You can almost graph a curve whereby successful young cocky men eventually tip over the edge into arrogant middle aged twats. Your thoughts? "
Yes you’re right. I think the answer is sometimes. There’s a fine line between confidence and arrogance though. |
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"I guess the answer is sometimes. But I see all too often how success leads to confidence, then further success leads to arrogance. You can almost graph a curve whereby successful young cocky men eventually tip over the edge into arrogant middle aged twats. Your thoughts? "
Embedded in the question is a degree of achievement. I think it's hard to have real achievement without being realistic about where you are in relation to some absolute standard. That realism would be the opposite of arrogance as long as the person recognises there is more to achieve. The most arrogant people I see are those that had parents who set an incredible low and flexible standard for 'achievement' that the person felt they had done everything life had to offer by the time they were 23  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I guess the answer is sometimes. But I see all too often how success leads to confidence, then further success leads to arrogance. You can almost graph a curve whereby successful young cocky men eventually tip over the edge into arrogant middle aged twats. Your thoughts?
Embedded in the question is a degree of achievement. I think it's hard to have real achievement without being realistic about where you are in relation to some absolute standard. That realism would be the opposite of arrogance as long as the person recognises there is more to achieve. The most arrogant people I see are those that had parents who set an incredible low and flexible standard for 'achievement' that the person felt they had done everything life had to offer by the time they were 23 "
I think perhaps younger successful people tend to come across more arrogant in general. I wasn’t successful in my business till later in life (age 32) I found it difficult at first as I think I was “too nice” but you have to find a balance. Assertiveness and confidence definitely but without coming across as arrogant. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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to be successful you need to push others aside and be driven, selfish completely.
this makes winners.
the ones who excel at sport will push the rules to the limit to win including run you off the track if it means they beat you.
we may boo the cheat or someone who bends the rules but they are laying down a marker so others dont forget it.
nice guys finish last. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Arrogance is a personality trait, that it used to hide insecurity. It has nothing to do with success, success in anything doesn’t make a well rounded person arrogant all of a sudden. |
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"I guess the answer is sometimes. But I see all too often how success leads to confidence, then further success leads to arrogance. You can almost graph a curve whereby successful young cocky men eventually tip over the edge into arrogant middle aged twats. Your thoughts?
Embedded in the question is a degree of achievement. I think it's hard to have real achievement without being realistic about where you are in relation to some absolute standard. That realism would be the opposite of arrogance as long as the person recognises there is more to achieve. The most arrogant people I see are those that had parents who set an incredible low and flexible standard for 'achievement' that the person felt they had done everything life had to offer by the time they were 23
I think perhaps younger successful people tend to come across more arrogant in general. I wasn’t successful in my business till later in life (age 32) I found it difficult at first as I think I was “too nice” but you have to find a balance. Assertiveness and confidence definitely but without coming across as arrogant. "
There are real only tiny number of opportunities for anyone to achieve anything that resembles success before ~25. Outside of sport, entertainment industry and entrepreneurs which tend to cluster in the tech industry, it's hard to see a path that a significant number of people could take. A degree is pretty much a pre-requisite to getting an entry level job in a high paying industry. The first 2 years are inevitably glorified training. So that's 23 at the earliest before life really starts. Then factor in the 10,000 rule of developing a skill and assume a driven person was working 2,000 hours a year (which they aren't) and now you're at 28 before they've done a damn thing worth talking about. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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For the me 2 aren't really linked, I've met many arrogant people in my time and most weren't really successful at all, they're just arrogant and then on the flip side ive met alot of successful people as well and id say about 95% of them weren't arrogant whatsoever.
Arrogance is a personality trait, it's there regardless of success. |
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