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over a year ago
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Always a contentious issue. Many of us could end up on benefits at any time. Don’t they say we are only 3 pay packets away at any time.
The new Universal Credit system doesn’t seem to be working. New claimants wait 5-8 weeks for a claim to be paid.
It’s not working. As usual the government are punishing those with the least. |
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The benefits system (especially those aimed at sick and disabled) is atrocious.
My personal experience are through helping a friend whom has a personality disorder. One of his alters is highly volatile and as such he doesnt go out unless supervised and generally restraints are carried just in case.
Now with all supporting evidence from two medium security psychiatric hospitals, doctors and care team saying he is unfit for interview....yep you guessed it, they asked him to attend assessments both for ESA and PIP.
Whilst we did manage to take him to the ESA one, he did manage to fracture his knuckles from punching his head, repeatedly for an hour (yes the specialist assessor took the whole hour) even though they could see the amount of mental distress they were putting my friend through.
So on those fronts it is highly barbaric, a breach of the human rights act.
Now here is the big insult... I walk in and my friend is visably distressed... No assisstance offered, given or anything.... Whilst we are waiting in walks the stereotypical benefits blagger.... Gets called and the limp appears and staggers in.
Whilst i do agree the benefits system needs revising, they should have actual specialists rather than idiots who take a 2 week course on "how to assess illness" |
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As a disabled person (who was hospitalised last october because i woke up one day unable to physically move at all (due to spinal stenosis)) the lack of support everywhere is terrible.
They were going to send me home unable to move because they had no beds for me on the ward and the next morning they woke me up and sent me home despite the fact that i'd lost complete function of my bladder and legs.
I have unsuccessfully applied for PIP several times now. But everything is underfunded, not just benefits, but all social care and social welfare. |
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over a year ago
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It’s a complete farce for the disabled. So many are getting turned down for PIP then having to go to tribunals where it’s reinstated. The costs of these have got to outweigh the supposed savings. And universal credit should be scrapped, as it’s not fit for purpose x |
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Speaking of tribunals...
I know of people who have won their tribunal and two years later are sill waiting on payments.
Also of people who get their PIP award taken off them as soon as they win and so have to start over the process again.
And of 6 monthly reviews, despite being awarded 2 or 3 years of PIP payments.
Just go check out any disability forums, the stories are there. |
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"Speaking of tribunals...
I know of people who have won their tribunal and two years later are sill waiting on payments.
Also of people who get their PIP award taken off them as soon as they win and so have to start over the process again.
And of 6 monthly reviews, despite being awarded 2 or 3 years of PIP payments.
Just go check out any disability forums, the stories are there."
Yes this is true, yet so many people think the disabled have it easy, yet they’re the target of government propaganda. And don’t get me started on carers, we save the government thousands but are looked upon as the lowest of the low and paid abysmally. Minimum wage would be more x |
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"As a disabled person (who was hospitalised last october because i woke up one day unable to physically move at all (due to spinal stenosis)) the lack of support everywhere is terrible.
They were going to send me home unable to move because they had no beds for me on the ward and the next morning they woke me up and sent me home despite the fact that i'd lost complete function of my bladder and legs.
I have unsuccessfully applied for PIP several times now. But everything is underfunded, not just benefits, but all social care and social welfare."
That sounds like cauda equina  what on earth were they doing sending you home? Rhetorical question, how are you now? |
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"As a disabled person (who was hospitalised last october because i woke up one day unable to physically move at all (due to spinal stenosis)) the lack of support everywhere is terrible.
They were going to send me home unable to move because they had no beds for me on the ward and the next morning they woke me up and sent me home despite the fact that i'd lost complete function of my bladder and legs.
I have unsuccessfully applied for PIP several times now. But everything is underfunded, not just benefits, but all social care and social welfare.
That sounds like cauda equina what on earth were they doing sending you home? Rhetorical question, how are you now?"
How are you now isn't rhetorical btw |
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"As a disabled person (who was hospitalised last october because i woke up one day unable to physically move at all (due to spinal stenosis)) the lack of support everywhere is terrible.
They were going to send me home unable to move because they had no beds for me on the ward and the next morning they woke me up and sent me home despite the fact that i'd lost complete function of my bladder and legs.
I have unsuccessfully applied for PIP several times now. But everything is underfunded, not just benefits, but all social care and social welfare.
That sounds like cauda equina what on earth were they doing sending you home? Rhetorical question, how are you now?"
They didn' send me home, i physically couldn't move at all, and the day after they managed to wheel me out in a chair to a taxi while i was off my face on morphine.
I'm relatively pain free but still fairly immobile at this time. Just waiting another 14-15 weeks for the local restart team to be able to help me. |
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The whole thing is absolutely pointless for 70% of the population in my opinion. What you are paid should be proportional to your previous job for a limited time, which is what they do in Germany. Giving someone ~£250 a month when they have a £2k mortgage is worse than shitting in their letterbox. |
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"As a disabled person (who was hospitalised last october because i woke up one day unable to physically move at all (due to spinal stenosis)) the lack of support everywhere is terrible.
They were going to send me home unable to move because they had no beds for me on the ward and the next morning they woke me up and sent me home despite the fact that i'd lost complete function of my bladder and legs.
I have unsuccessfully applied for PIP several times now. But everything is underfunded, not just benefits, but all social care and social welfare.
That sounds like cauda equina what on earth were they doing sending you home? Rhetorical question, how are you now?
They didn' send me home, i physically couldn't move at all, and the day after they managed to wheel me out in a chair to a taxi while i was off my face on morphine.
I'm relatively pain free but still fairly immobile at this time. Just waiting another 14-15 weeks for the local restart team to be able to help me."
Is surgery an option? |
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"As a disabled person (who was hospitalised last october because i woke up one day unable to physically move at all (due to spinal stenosis)) the lack of support everywhere is terrible.
They were going to send me home unable to move because they had no beds for me on the ward and the next morning they woke me up and sent me home despite the fact that i'd lost complete function of my bladder and legs.
I have unsuccessfully applied for PIP several times now. But everything is underfunded, not just benefits, but all social care and social welfare.
That sounds like cauda equina what on earth were they doing sending you home? Rhetorical question, how are you now?
They didn' send me home, i physically couldn't move at all, and the day after they managed to wheel me out in a chair to a taxi while i was off my face on morphine.
I'm relatively pain free but still fairly immobile at this time. Just waiting another 14-15 weeks for the local restart team to be able to help me.
Is surgery an option? "
Yes. I'm waiting on two surgeries as well. I have spinal stenosis in my neck and lower back and both can be operated on.
I'll still need support after as i'm not going to be allowed to move much, also the surgeries may work, may not change anything, or have a slight risk of making me worse. |
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"As a disabled person (who was hospitalised last october because i woke up one day unable to physically move at all (due to spinal stenosis)) the lack of support everywhere is terrible.
They were going to send me home unable to move because they had no beds for me on the ward and the next morning they woke me up and sent me home despite the fact that i'd lost complete function of my bladder and legs.
I have unsuccessfully applied for PIP several times now. But everything is underfunded, not just benefits, but all social care and social welfare.
That sounds like cauda equina what on earth were they doing sending you home? Rhetorical question, how are you now?
They didn' send me home, i physically couldn't move at all, and the day after they managed to wheel me out in a chair to a taxi while i was off my face on morphine.
I'm relatively pain free but still fairly immobile at this time. Just waiting another 14-15 weeks for the local restart team to be able to help me.
Is surgery an option?
Yes. I'm waiting on two surgeries as well. I have spinal stenosis in my neck and lower back and both can be operated on.
I'll still need support after as i'm not going to be allowed to move much, also the surgeries may work, may not change anything, or have a slight risk of making me worse."
I had surgery on my lower spine for stenosis which has improved my life immeasurably. I had a titanium implant fitted between discs. I hope yours works as well as mine did. |
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"As a disabled person (who was hospitalised last october because i woke up one day unable to physically move at all (due to spinal stenosis)) the lack of support everywhere is terrible.
They were going to send me home unable to move because they had no beds for me on the ward and the next morning they woke me up and sent me home despite the fact that i'd lost complete function of my bladder and legs.
I have unsuccessfully applied for PIP several times now. But everything is underfunded, not just benefits, but all social care and social welfare.
That sounds like cauda equina what on earth were they doing sending you home? Rhetorical question, how are you now?
They didn' send me home, i physically couldn't move at all, and the day after they managed to wheel me out in a chair to a taxi while i was off my face on morphine.
I'm relatively pain free but still fairly immobile at this time. Just waiting another 14-15 weeks for the local restart team to be able to help me.
Is surgery an option?
Yes. I'm waiting on two surgeries as well. I have spinal stenosis in my neck and lower back and both can be operated on.
I'll still need support after as i'm not going to be allowed to move much, also the surgeries may work, may not change anything, or have a slight risk of making me worse.
I had surgery on my lower spine for stenosis which has improved my life immeasurably. I had a titanium implant fitted between discs. I hope yours works as well as mine did."
hanks. So do i. My sister has the same thing and was operated on in her 30s and she ended up worse. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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When I was off sick last year and only getting SSP I thought the help offered was ridiculous. I've paid all my life into my taxes and NI and I just wanted a bit of help from them. In the end I gave up!
True claimants are suffering out there but sadly the false claimants the ones that have abused the system for years have made it worse for us. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Why should people who have never worked a day of their life and not paid tax and NI be entitiled to these benefits anyway?
I know people who left school, didn't want a job, have countless kids only to get a free house a new car etc. It's maddening |
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"When I was off sick last year and only getting SSP I thought the help offered was ridiculous. I've paid all my life into my taxes and NI and I just wanted a bit of help from them. In the end I gave up!
True claimants are suffering out there but sadly the false claimants the ones that have abused the system for years have made it worse for us. "
It's why I say it's useless for ~70% of the population. It's hardly optimal for the other 30%, either |
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"Why should people who have never worked a day of their life and not paid tax and NI be entitiled to these benefits anyway?
I know people who left school, didn't want a job, have countless kids only to get a free house a new car etc. It's maddening "
Depends if they can work or not. I know someone who got a debilitating illness age 13 and has never been able to work. They've never paid tax but i don't resent them for it. I can think of other people that have done nothing with their lives that i do resent. |
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"Why should people who have never worked a day of their life and not paid tax and NI be entitiled to these benefits anyway?
I know people who left school, didn't want a job, have countless kids only to get a free house a new car etc. It's maddening "
What you should remember is they are a very small percentage of people receiving benefits, and it's because of society complaining about these minority that the Government justified taking money from disabled people and people on low incomes.
"We" asked for it, they got it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I've just been reading that an American company made £26 million profit last year from our Work Capability Assessments. That is despite 69% of these assessments being overturned at appeal and them missing DWP targets (whatever they may be).
Private companies are taking our taxes to take money away from disabled people on the instruction of our Government.
Same with the NHS but that's another story. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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The UK was one of the few places where young people could doss around, not having to think about getting a job until they really wanted to. Something the vast majority of brits are pissed off about.
During the same period of time the UK produced some of the very best in music in the world. Something the vast majority of brits are deeply proud of.
You don't suppose there's a connection?  |
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"I've just been reading that an American company made £26 million profit last year from our Work Capability Assessments. That is despite 69% of these assessments being overturned at appeal and them missing DWP targets (whatever they may be).
Private companies are taking our taxes to take money away from disabled people on the instruction of our Government.
Same with the NHS but that's another story."
What was the turnover from the contract? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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My friend unfortunately through no fault of his own had to start claiming.
He got a advance payment cause of the time to start the claim up.
People abuse it. People rely on it. People use it as a tool to get back on their feet.
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By (user no longer on site)
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I’m a full time carer for my elderly disabled mother
She needs 24/7 care and unable to do anything for herself
If she was to go into a nursing home it would cost the government at least £700/£800 per week
Yet carers allowance is a measly £64 a week
It’s disgusting how much each and everyone of us carers save the government a year
I personally think we deserve more
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"Why should people who have never worked a day of their life and not paid tax and NI be entitiled to these benefits anyway?
I know people who left school, didn't want a job, have countless kids only to get a free house a new car etc. It's maddening
What you should remember is they are a very small percentage of people receiving benefits, and it's because of society complaining about these minority that the Government justified taking money from disabled people and people on low incomes.
"We" asked for it, they got it."
A very small percentage is it. A small percentage in one street, a small percentage in another street, a small percentage in another village. Another small percentage in a town. Another small percentage in a city.
My job brought me into daily contact with these small percentage people, Who were lucky enough to be made incapacitated by the Thatcher government, then they were cunning enough to claim other benefits also. And I see them driving a better car than me. And they have all the latest technology in there house, computer/plasma tv/smart phone/radio controlled helicopters/and holidays abroad. And then there are those that sit outside of a pub, most days a week, drinking, having a pub lunch. Smoking whacky backy most of the day. As I am driving around, from one job to another, seeing the lifestyle of this small percentage. I am thinking !!! who is the fucking idiot here.
And yes, the percentages % are greater, as like some of you have posted on this thread. You are not getting enough from the government, to make ends meet, it is not just you, it is also the elderly.
Enough said, a rant from this old git. |
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"Why should people who have never worked a day of their life and not paid tax and NI be entitiled to these benefits anyway?
I know people who left school, didn't want a job, have countless kids only to get a free house a new car etc. It's maddening
What you should remember is they are a very small percentage of people receiving benefits, and it's because of society complaining about these minority that the Government justified taking money from disabled people and people on low incomes.
"We" asked for it, they got it.A very small percentage is it. A small percentage in one street, a small percentage in another street, a small percentage in another village. Another small percentage in a town. Another small percentage in a city.
My job brought me into daily contact with these small percentage people, Who were lucky enough to be made incapacitated by the Thatcher government, then they were cunning enough to claim other benefits also. And I see them driving a better car than me. And they have all the latest technology in there house, computer/plasma tv/smart phone/radio controlled helicopters/and holidays abroad. And then there are those that sit outside of a pub, most days a week, drinking, having a pub lunch. Smoking whacky backy most of the day. As I am driving around, from one job to another, seeing the lifestyle of this small percentage. I am thinking !!! who is the fucking idiot here.
And yes, the percentages % are greater, as like some of you have posted on this thread. You are not getting enough from the government, to make ends meet, it is not just you, it is also the elderly.
Enough said, a rant from this old git."
New Labour wrote off tens of thousands of people as disabled when they had common issues like a bad back. I've met loads of them and there's no reason they couldn't work. |
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"As a disabled person (who was hospitalised last october because i woke up one day unable to physically move at all (due to spinal stenosis)) the lack of support everywhere is terrible.
They were going to send me home unable to move because they had no beds for me on the ward and the next morning they woke me up and sent me home despite the fact that i'd lost complete function of my bladder and legs.
I have unsuccessfully applied for PIP several times now. But everything is underfunded, not just benefits, but all social care and social welfare.
That sounds like cauda equina what on earth were they doing sending you home? Rhetorical question, how are you now?
They didn' send me home, i physically couldn't move at all, and the day after they managed to wheel me out in a chair to a taxi while i was off my face on morphine.
I'm relatively pain free but still fairly immobile at this time. Just waiting another 14-15 weeks for the local restart team to be able to help me.
Is surgery an option?
Yes. I'm waiting on two surgeries as well. I have spinal stenosis in my neck and lower back and both can be operated on.
I'll still need support after as i'm not going to be allowed to move much, also the surgeries may work, may not change anything, or have a slight risk of making me worse."
I've just had the op for spinal stenosis in July this year. I felt very sore after initially and then it eased. BUT my symptoms prior to the op have started to emerge again so feel that I'll soon be back to square one. |
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"As a disabled person (who was hospitalised last october because i woke up one day unable to physically move at all (due to spinal stenosis)) the lack of support everywhere is terrible.
They were going to send me home unable to move because they had no beds for me on the ward and the next morning they woke me up and sent me home despite the fact that i'd lost complete function of my bladder and legs.
I have unsuccessfully applied for PIP several times now. But everything is underfunded, not just benefits, but all social care and social welfare.
That sounds like cauda equina what on earth were they doing sending you home? Rhetorical question, how are you now?
They didn' send me home, i physically couldn't move at all, and the day after they managed to wheel me out in a chair to a taxi while i was off my face on morphine.
I'm relatively pain free but still fairly immobile at this time. Just waiting another 14-15 weeks for the local restart team to be able to help me.
Is surgery an option?
Yes. I'm waiting on two surgeries as well. I have spinal stenosis in my neck and lower back and both can be operated on.
I'll still need support after as i'm not going to be allowed to move much, also the surgeries may work, may not change anything, or have a slight risk of making me worse.
I've just had the op for spinal stenosis in July this year. I felt very sore after initially and then it eased. BUT my symptoms prior to the op have started to emerge again so feel that I'll soon be back to square one. "
That's a bit shit, guessing there's no point in further surgery? |
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It's all a bloody sham. Those who need it don't get it, and those who seem to know how to fiddle the system get hundreds of pounds a week. It's all wrong. |
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"Why should people who have never worked a day of their life and not paid tax and NI be entitiled to these benefits anyway?
I know people who left school, didn't want a job, have countless kids only to get a free house a new car etc. It's maddening
Depends if they can work or not. I know someone who got a debilitating illness age 13 and has never been able to work. They've never paid tax but i don't resent them for it. I can think of other people that have done nothing with their lives that i do resent. "
Those I don’t resent at all. Like you said I can think of countless others who have done fuck all in their life and yes I do resent them. |
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I think as soon as you're earning a decent wage you should have 6 months to vacate your council house. I think if you're in a council house and you own more than 2 vehicles per person you should lose your benefits. I think if you're a couple with a 3 bed council house you should be moved into a smaller place to allow a family in. I think if you're living in a council house and you abuse that house, through neglect, you should be kicked out. |
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I don't know enough about the system as I've never claimed anything in my life, but I do think no one should receive benefits that amount to more or equal to the wages of someone who's working. |
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" I don't know enough about the system as I've never claimed anything in my life, but I do think no one should receive benefits that amount to more or equal to the wages of someone who's working."
Neither did I until I lost my job and when trying to claim for my terminally ill brother! Even people dying are having trouble claiming. Sadly he’s gone now but the battles we had trying to get him a flat with disabled access for his wheelchair was awful until Macmillan stepped in.
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"I've just been reading that an American company made £26 million profit last year from our Work Capability Assessments. That is despite 69% of these assessments being overturned at appeal and them missing DWP targets (whatever they may be).
Private companies are taking our taxes to take money away from disabled people on the instruction of our Government.
Same with the NHS but that's another story.
What was the turnover from the contract? "
No idea. The article said that's the profit they made last year on a £556 million contract. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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We need a resource based economy. No money, electronic or otherwise. It couldn't be done overnight but with a thought out transition it could be done.
But there will probably be a staged alien event before that happens. |
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Having personal experience of esa, no I'm not ashamed of it either I had a breakdown when my dad was taken seriously ill. I want to work but im mentally not ready to work in retail anymore, all my experience is in that line of work. Its so hard to get seen by professionals and you need them for evidence to go with your claim
Judge me all you want for Being here and also on esa
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"As a disabled person (who was hospitalised last october because i woke up one day unable to physically move at all (due to spinal stenosis)) the lack of support everywhere is terrible.
They were going to send me home unable to move because they had no beds for me on the ward and the next morning they woke me up and sent me home despite the fact that i'd lost complete function of my bladder and legs.
I have unsuccessfully applied for PIP several times now. But everything is underfunded, not just benefits, but all social care and social welfare.
That sounds like cauda equina what on earth were they doing sending you home? Rhetorical question, how are you now?
They didn' send me home, i physically couldn't move at all, and the day after they managed to wheel me out in a chair to a taxi while i was off my face on morphine.
I'm relatively pain free but still fairly immobile at this time. Just waiting another 14-15 weeks for the local restart team to be able to help me.
Is surgery an option?
Yes. I'm waiting on two surgeries as well. I have spinal stenosis in my neck and lower back and both can be operated on.
I'll still need support after as i'm not going to be allowed to move much, also the surgeries may work, may not change anything, or have a slight risk of making me worse.
I've just had the op for spinal stenosis in July this year. I felt very sore after initially and then it eased. BUT my symptoms prior to the op have started to emerge again so feel that I'll soon be back to square one.
That's a bit shit, guessing there's no point in further surgery?"
I went for the op in full knowledge that it might not work. Spinal stenosis is a degenerative condition so I will have it for life with the arthritis they have diagnosed with it. The surgery is to aim for pain relief it doesn't actually cure the condition.
I have managed to claim PIP but the DWP state I'm fully fit for work so figure that out. |
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over a year ago
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i do not like what is happened to the disabled or elderly community with some harsh cuts in social services.
i have had to pay out of my own pocket for things my mum needed to help her live her life better.
talking to disabled people i meet its heartbreaking when they tell you they feel all alone and its like no one cares.
do i know what the answer is? no i dont.
just looks like people are brushed aside and forgotten. what have we become
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Official estimates a couple of years back are that around £1.6bn is claimed by fraud or error. Around £2.6bn is unclaimed that should be.
Why is that? Because people like some in this thread go on about abuse, fraud, scroungers, lifestyle choice etc and shame people who claim their entitlement. More than half of claimants are in some form of work by the way, but need assistance.
I'd much prefer a few abuses (which cost each uk adult under 1p a day by the way) than one single person suffered without.
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"Official estimates a couple of years back are that around £1.6bn is claimed by fraud or error. Around £2.6bn is unclaimed that should be.
Why is that? Because people like some in this thread go on about abuse, fraud, scroungers, lifestyle choice etc and shame people who claim their entitlement. More than half of claimants are in some form of work by the way, but need assistance.
I'd much prefer a few abuses (which cost each uk adult under 1p a day by the way) than one single person suffered without.
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I won’t lose sleep over the abusers of the system if it goes to the needy. Acceptable losses for me.  |
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over a year ago
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Unfortunately the benefit system doesn't work.
This is always going to be for debate on who is to blame.
Unfortunately the people who really do need this to survive are always the people who suffer... 
Will it ever change? I doubt it... as unfortunately the system is always going to be taken advantaged by some people who do play the system and are taking this away from the people who the system is designed for, ( my opinion , so I'm not looking for anyone to disagree or agree!! )
This is the main reason food banks have appeared in our society, and why we give to this much needed cause to help the people who rely on this to survive... Another new lifestyle being ignored by the government.. |
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over a year ago
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"The only benefits that should exist is disability and pension.
Scrap the rest "
Ok so what about us that give up our jobs, our lives to look after disabled, elderly or terminally ill members of the family
So we shouldn’t claim anything |
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"I have not claimed. But the thing that strikes me about the whole process as described it lacks dignity which must eat away at you in time. Completely counter productive and lacks compassion. "
I agree - I haven't claimed either but I can imagine it's a humiliating experience.
I don't have a TV or social media etc .. so I haven't seen any of this reality TV about " benefit scroungers"
What kind of quality of life can you have on such little money
And being at home all day every day would be enough to suck your soul away
I'm glad the system is there for a day where I might need it.
I am happy to pay a few pence to keep the benefit system in our country.
We are lucky. |
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"I have not claimed. But the thing that strikes me about the whole process as described it lacks dignity which must eat away at you in time. Completely counter productive and lacks compassion.
I agree - I haven't claimed either but I can imagine it's a humiliating experience.
I don't have a TV or social media etc .. so I haven't seen any of this reality TV about " benefit scroungers"
What kind of quality of life can you have on such little money
And being at home all day every day would be enough to suck your soul away
I'm glad the system is there for a day where I might need it.
I am happy to pay a few pence to keep the benefit system in our country.
We are lucky."
I’m going to give up TV. Do you miss it? |
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I’m going to give up TV. Do you miss it? "
Haha no!
I haven't had a TV in years.
I still watch Netflix and films etc.. online.
I gave up all social media and newspapers as well.
This is the only social media thingy I'm on.
Do it - who needs to be lobotomised on a daily basis by propaganda and reality TV nonsense  |
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I’m going to give up TV. Do you miss it?
Haha no!
I haven't had a TV in years.
I still watch Netflix and films etc.. online.
I gave up all social media and newspapers as well.
This is the only social media thingy I'm on.
Do it - who needs to be lobotomised on a daily basis by propaganda and reality TV nonsense "
I might not be able to cut myself off completely. I will still need Instagram for animal memes 
I imagine it’s quite liberating.
Will wait for the Bake off to finish.  |
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I’m going to give up TV. Do you miss it?
Haha no!
I haven't had a TV in years.
I still watch Netflix and films etc.. online.
I gave up all social media and newspapers as well.
This is the only social media thingy I'm on.
Do it - who needs to be lobotomised on a daily basis by propaganda and reality TV nonsense
I might not be able to cut myself off completely. I will still need Instagram for animal memes
I imagine it’s quite liberating.
Will wait for the Bake off to finish. "
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So between the choice of...
A benefits system that is mean and lean
And
Good music
I'm guessing most on this thread are picking the former. I do hope you're going to follow through with that and cease listening to any British rock music. After all, they pretty much all got started by being a bunch of scrounging bastards |
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"The only benefits that should exist is disability and pension.
Scrap the rest "
That would put a hell of a lot of people on the street when they lose their housing benefit. Landlords would have to lower rents significantly so they don't lose their tenants. Can't see that happening.
What about working tax credit? |
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"So between the choice of...
A benefits system that is mean and lean
And
Good music
I'm guessing most on this thread are picking the former. I do hope you're going to follow through with that and cease listening to any British rock music. After all, they pretty much all got started by being a bunch of scrounging bastards"
Im not having that, that’s such a tedious link, to be unprovable. Noel Gallagher wrote all his early songs on his lunch break subcontracting for British Gas. |
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"So between the choice of...
A benefits system that is mean and lean
And
Good music
I'm guessing most on this thread are picking the former. I do hope you're going to follow through with that and cease listening to any British rock music. After all, they pretty much all got started by being a bunch of scrounging bastards
Im not having that, that’s such a tedious link, to be unprovable. Noel Gallagher wrote all his early songs on his lunch break subcontracting for British Gas. "
Perhaps he should've stuck to eating his sandwiches and gotten back to work? It's a proven fact... scroungers make real music |
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Having A life changing injury around 2 years ago and seen numerous doctors having letters, x-rays and 3 operations all saying there might not ever be any improvement. It's great having to go to regular interrogation by dwp representatives most who don't seem to have any medical training. |
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Far to many lazy bone idle bums milking the system and ruining it for genuine people who really do need it, it boils my piss when I hear these said no working bums, oh it’s payday today, it’s not effing payday , it’s I’m getting my money for doing fuck all and you mugs that work are paying me to do naïf all apart from drink cheap lager/ cider and take bloody drugs. So to the lazy bone idle bums get off you arseholeget a fucking job and pay into the system like the fucking rest of us do.
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I've been fortunate enough to never have to claim unemployment benefits so can't comment on that side.
Disability is a different matter. They are the biggest bunch of cunts I've ever had to deal with. I have disabled kids all with Autism, claiming dla/pip for them has been a constant battle.
Every time they renew they downgrade the payments and I have to appeal. It takes time and is stressful. They do it in the hope you wont appeal as I have every time, and won.
The DWP representative at every appeal has not contested it and rolled over admitting they made an 'error' in the assessment. Wankers the lot of them. |
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"The only benefits that should exist is disability and pension.
Scrap the rest
Ok so what about us that give up our jobs, our lives to look after disabled, elderly or terminally ill members of the family
So we shouldn’t claim anything "
I said disability, wasn't aware I would have to list every subcategory as well |
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"The only benefits that should exist is disability and pension.
Scrap the rest
That would put a hell of a lot of people on the street when they lose their housing benefit. Landlords would have to lower rents significantly so they don't lose their tenants. Can't see that happening.
What about working tax credit? "
Yes scrap that as well. And the people who would be lose their should get a job so they can keep it |
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"As a disabled person (who was hospitalised last october because i woke up one day unable to physically move at all (due to spinal stenosis)) the lack of support everywhere is terrible.
They were going to send me home unable to move because they had no beds for me on the ward and the next morning they woke me up and sent me home despite the fact that i'd lost complete function of my bladder and legs.
I have unsuccessfully applied for PIP several times now. But everything is underfunded, not just benefits, but all social care and social welfare.
That sounds like cauda equina what on earth were they doing sending you home? Rhetorical question, how are you now?
They didn' send me home, i physically couldn't move at all, and the day after they managed to wheel me out in a chair to a taxi while i was off my face on morphine.
I'm relatively pain free but still fairly immobile at this time. Just waiting another 14-15 weeks for the local restart team to be able to help me.
Is surgery an option?
Yes. I'm waiting on two surgeries as well. I have spinal stenosis in my neck and lower back and both can be operated on.
I'll still need support after as i'm not going to be allowed to move much, also the surgeries may work, may not change anything, or have a slight risk of making me worse.
I've just had the op for spinal stenosis in July this year. I felt very sore after initially and then it eased. BUT my symptoms prior to the op have started to emerge again so feel that I'll soon be back to square one.
That's a bit shit, guessing there's no point in further surgery?
I went for the op in full knowledge that it might not work. Spinal stenosis is a degenerative condition so I will have it for life with the arthritis they have diagnosed with it. The surgery is to aim for pain relief it doesn't actually cure the condition.
I have managed to claim PIP but the DWP state I'm fully fit for work so figure that out. "
Mine could help with numbness too but i've been told but yeah there's no cure. I am a campaigner now for dying with dignity. |
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"The only benefits that should exist is disability and pension.
Scrap the rest
That would put a hell of a lot of people on the street when they lose their housing benefit. Landlords would have to lower rents significantly so they don't lose their tenants. Can't see that happening.
What about working tax credit?
Yes scrap that as well. And the people who would be lose their should get a job so they can keep it"
Would be what? |
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"The only benefits that should exist is disability and pension.
Scrap the rest
That would put a hell of a lot of people on the street when they lose their housing benefit. Landlords would have to lower rents significantly so they don't lose their tenants. Can't see that happening.
What about working tax credit?
Yes scrap that as well. And the people who would lose their home should get a job so they can keep it
Would be what? "
Wow I really failed English that time
Fixed it for me |
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"So between the choice of...
A benefits system that is mean and lean
And
Good music
I'm guessing most on this thread are picking the former. I do hope you're going to follow through with that and cease listening to any British rock music. After all, they pretty much all got started by being a bunch of scrounging bastards
Im not having that, that’s such a tedious link, to be unprovable. Noel Gallagher wrote all his early songs on his lunch break subcontracting for British Gas.
Perhaps he should've stuck to eating his sandwiches and gotten back to work? It's a proven fact... scroungers make real music "
fact.... I was scrounging when I first started in music but now I'm minted |
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"I've just been reading that an American company made £26 million profit last year from our Work Capability Assessments. That is despite 69% of these assessments being overturned at appeal and them missing DWP targets (whatever they may be).
Private companies are taking our taxes to take money away from disabled people on the instruction of our Government.
Same with the NHS but that's another story.
What was the turnover from the contract?
No idea. The article said that's the profit they made last year on a £556 million contract."
The company overall makes an 8.5% net profit, the average of any company is 8.6% so £26m is as average as it gets really. Assuming the contract has their average rate. |
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"They should be regularly means tested. "
They do. Well I have had 3 interviews, means tests in less than 2 years and this is in despite of having extensive medical evidence.
Some people take advantage but there are more struggling without any fault of their own. God forbid any of the self-righteous on here should have anything bad happen to them.you never think it will but then life is like that. |
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