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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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This probably isn’t the place to ask, but it’s difficult real world. I successfully interviewed to be loaned out to another area. I’ve been told I’m doing a great job. A permanent role came out and I applied. Found out I didn’t get the role, one of the people that was interviewed when I got the temp role didn’t get that, but has got the permanent role.
I have another few weeks now, doing the job, where the manager has just not hired me. It was a big pay rise and a great job. I’ll soon be back to my normal wage and role. It all feels really awkward and I’m disappointed. They said I can get feedback , which I will, but I’m cheesed off. They also said the don’t take app form and the fact they know I do the job now, into account.
I just don’t know where to go from here. I’ve been working really long hours for weeks and feel like it’s all been for nothing.
Anyone had similar or know how to keep positive when you feel like you’ve been treated like a prat. Plus all my colleagues will know i wasnt successful. I know I’m smarting and I know only I can change it. Just feeling glum.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Move on.
Clearly they only used to fill a role till they found someone else
You have every right to be cheesed off.
A good boss would see you're doing well and keep you there |
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An interviewer has to go with the performance at interview and nothing else. It’s hard when you’re not successful and frustrating given your circumstances. My advice is remember that how you handle yourself now will be how you’re remembered and there could be future opportunities. Don’t cut your nose off to spite your face however tempting, dignity and professionalism is paramount. Get the feedback, be clear that you’d like to be considered in future and keep positive in how you represent yourself.
Then take a trusted friend totally unrelated to work and get pissed and feel pissed and vent, if you need that for closure. |
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Ha Ha, I was working as a temp at Hazelwoods pickle factory for the second time in the late 80's. I had a spell as a Quality Controller which I quite enjoyed, 2 vacancies came up for a permanent position for which I duly applied. There were only 4 applicants and the interviewer gave me the nod so to speak. 2 Days later, everyone was told that the factory was closing down and relocating to Scunthorpe   |
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That's the risk you run with secondments or temporary loans. They are not obliged to give you the role if your interview was not the best on the day.
You took the job for experience and that is what you have got. You can either bide your time there hoping a similar role will come up or use your new skills to look elsewhere. |
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"Ha Ha, I was working as a temp at Hazelwoods pickle factory for the second time in the late 80's. I had a spell as a Quality Controller which I quite enjoyed, 2 vacancies came up for a permanent position for which I duly applied. There were only 4 applicants and the interviewer gave me the nod so to speak. 2 Days later, everyone was told that the factory was closing down and relocating to Scunthorpe "
You may have dodged a bullet there. I would never work for a company who have willingly decided to move to Scunthorpe |
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over a year ago
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"An interviewer has to go with the performance at interview and nothing else. It’s hard when you’re not successful and frustrating given your circumstances. My advice is remember that how you handle yourself now will be how you’re remembered and there could be future opportunities. Don’t cut your nose off to spite your face however tempting, dignity and professionalism is paramount. Get the feedback, be clear that you’d like to be considered in future and keep positive in how you represent yourself.
Then take a trusted friend totally unrelated to work and get pissed and feel pissed and vent, if you need that for closure. "
Are you saying relevant experience does not count? (Generally speaking, not commenting on the OP case). |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"An interviewer has to go with the performance at interview and nothing else. It’s hard when you’re not successful and frustrating given your circumstances. My advice is remember that how you handle yourself now will be how you’re remembered and there could be future opportunities. Don’t cut your nose off to spite your face however tempting, dignity and professionalism is paramount. Get the feedback, be clear that you’d like to be considered in future and keep positive in how you represent yourself.
Then take a trusted friend totally unrelated to work and get pissed and feel pissed and vent, if you need that for closure.
Are you saying relevant experience does not count? (Generally speaking, not commenting on the OP case)."
Absolutely it counts, but you have to demonstrate it at the interview. |
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OP, by law, all hiring has to be advertised. In a lot of cases, the company knows exactly who they want in a role and would give it to them if they could, but legally they can't / HR won't let them. What this means for the average Joe on the street, you in this case, is that in your life; you will go to many interviews that it is impossible to pass no matter what you do.
Personally, I would use this is as a negotiating tactic assuming they care about keeping you. If not, move on and try not to dwell on it. |
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"An interviewer has to go with the performance at interview and nothing else.
That's not a principle of law or even common practice. "
Is there a question to me, or are you taking my reply and adding your own context and interpretation? |
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"An interviewer has to go with the performance at interview and nothing else.
That's not a principle of law or even common practice.
Is there a question to me, or are you taking my reply and adding your own context and interpretation?"
I don't really understand why you said it to be honest. It's presented as a statement of fact so interpretation was not required. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"An interviewer has to go with the performance at interview and nothing else.
That's not a principle of law or even common practice.
Is there a question to me, or are you taking my reply and adding your own context and interpretation?
I don't really understand why you said it to be honest. It's presented as a statement of fact so interpretation was not required. "
Rightyho. |
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my experience in the workplace has been that it isnt always the best person who lands the job.
usually they know someone in the company or if they already work there are terrible to the cell leader/supervisor is happy to not stand in the way of getting rid of them.
if you are too good at your job they wont let you progress because you are to valuable where you are.
that is the downside of being honest and committed to your role.
if you have been (in your view) treated unfairly then the only option is to leave.
firms hate seeing loyal workers go who are skilled and on time.
put your cv out there on every possible site you can google then you should start getting agencies contacting you.
your employer has to be reasonable in letting you go for interviews.
to give you an situation i went through a few years back i was working for suzuki and felt promises were not kept so i went over to talk to a friend at yamaha and next week i had a new role.
with my knowledge of a rivals business i pounded them where it hurts.
keep calm, bide your time, leave.
if they ask you to stay turn them down flat unless they meet your demands.
your worth every penny. good luck |
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"OP, by law, all hiring has to be advertised. In a lot of cases, the company knows exactly who they want in a role and would give it to them if they could, but legally they can't / HR won't let them. What this means for the average Joe on the street, you in this case, is that in your life; you will go to many interviews that it is impossible to pass no matter what you do.
Personally, I would use this is as a negotiating tactic assuming they care about keeping you. If not, move on and try not to dwell on it. "
At a prestigious company I once worked for I was tasked with interviewing a couple of yoga instructors to pick who would be best to come on site and give employees the perk of yoga classes. (I know. It was a tough job but somebody had to do it ) The difference between them was night and day. One was a gentle older lady who had been doing yoga for eons, totally got it, and I could tell would run a great class. The other was a stressed out younger woman who was more focused on her brand and selling employees new yoga gear. So I wrote a very clear recommendation to my superiors stating that it was an extremely easy choice and that there was no way we should entertain the younger woman.
I was immediately taken off the decision making process. Some jiggely wiggly done with emails. And the younger woman was hired.
She was the person above me's yoga instructor
The whole process was a ruse to make hiring her look legitimate |
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"OP, by law, all hiring has to be advertised. In a lot of cases, the company knows exactly who they want in a role and would give it to them if they could, but legally they can't / HR won't let them. What this means for the average Joe on the street, you in this case, is that in your life; you will go to many interviews that it is impossible to pass no matter what you do.
Personally, I would use this is as a negotiating tactic assuming they care about keeping you. If not, move on and try not to dwell on it.
At a prestigious company I once worked for I was tasked with interviewing a couple of yoga instructors to pick who would be best to come on site and give employees the perk of yoga classes. (I know. It was a tough job but somebody had to do it ) The difference between them was night and day. One was a gentle older lady who had been doing yoga for eons, totally got it, and I could tell would run a great class. The other was a stressed out younger woman who was more focused on her brand and selling employees new yoga gear. So I wrote a very clear recommendation to my superiors stating that it was an extremely easy choice and that there was no way we should entertain the younger woman.
I was immediately taken off the decision making process. Some jiggely wiggly done with emails. And the younger woman was hired.
She was the person above me's yoga instructor
The whole process was a ruse to make hiring her look legitimate "
Yes, it starts with every major company periodically restructuring, usually every ~5 years. This is the cheaper way to make dead wood redundant. It then flows down the divisions, who are generally managed by team with a 'go to' team of trusted people who can get stuff done. The organisation structure is essentially created around them. My estimation is that ~30% of hiring decisions are predetermined.
It sucks until you're on the inside of it. |
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"my experience in the workplace has been that it isnt always the best person who lands the job.
usually they know someone in the company or if they already work there are terrible to the cell leader/supervisor is happy to not stand in the way of getting rid of them.
if you are too good at your job they wont let you progress because you are to valuable where you are.
that is the downside of being honest and committed to your role.
if you have been (in your view) treated unfairly then the only option is to leave.
firms hate seeing loyal workers go who are skilled and on time.
put your cv out there on every possible site you can google then you should start getting agencies contacting you.
your employer has to be reasonable in letting you go for interviews.
to give you an situation i went through a few years back i was working for suzuki and felt promises were not kept so i went over to talk to a friend at yamaha and next week i had a new role.
with my knowledge of a rivals business i pounded them where it hurts.
keep calm, bide your time, leave.
if they ask you to stay turn them down flat unless they meet your demands.
your worth every penny. good luck"
This is how it’s felt. It’s been really difficult to work this week in the department where I haven’t got the job. I’ve done it, but inside I’ve felt shite to be honest. I have had some lovely comments from various collleagues who couldn’t believe what’s happened.
I’ve started applying elsewhere. Got to get my big girl pants on and seize the day. |
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