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"Not really I am here for a bit of fun now and again nothing more nothing less. Interesting you pitched it this way though as there a huge number of guys on here with self esteem issues. " Really. That’s interesting. I’ve heard that from another female recently. | |||
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"I have two questions. One for the ladies and one for the gents. For the ladies: have you ever had self-esteem issues? Casual sex makes it better or worse for you? For the gents: if you meet a lady with self-esteem issues (she feels ugly, she thinks is worthless), does this put you off?" To be honest with you a social should always be on the cards first to make sure she feels comfortable and free, if a woman has low self esteem it wouldn't put me off personally, I'd always try to make her as comfortable as can be then see how it goes from there.... | |||
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"I have two questions. One for the ladies and one for the gents. For the ladies: have you ever had self-esteem issues? Casual sex makes it better or worse for you? For the gents: if you meet a lady with self-esteem issues (she feels ugly, she thinks is worthless), does this put you off?" I used to have really low self esteem. Fab actually helped me. I fucked my way to confidence. No, not really. Well, kinda. Along with other thing like body positivity. | |||
"I don't really meet when my self esteem issues flare up - I work on bettering myself so they aren't so prevalent in my thoughts. I think most people have self esteem wibbles, it's not really a specific gender thing as a poster said above. As far as meeting others go? I have to admit, I like it when someone can relax around me and I can relax around them. If I am meeting someone (f or m) I want them to enjoy themselves wobbles and wibbles and all. Sex is meant to be fun and if it's overclouded with loads of hesitation, I might not enjoy it as much. " Wobbles and wobbles make it all the more worth it, very well put | |||
"Not really I am here for a bit of fun now and again nothing more nothing less. Interesting you pitched it this way though as there a huge number of guys on here with self esteem issues. " Which are made worse by being on here. With the ratio of women to men... Women with low self esteem can feel bad because they know that everyone throwing cock pics at them are just after a fuck. Men with low esteem beat themselves up as they feel they cannot compete. There are only so many times you can get turned down before you either give up or get twattish. My profile gives an insight on the low self esteem male if you care to look. | |||
"I have two questions. One for the ladies and one for the gents. For the ladies: have you ever had self-esteem issues? Casual sex makes it better or worse for you? For the gents: if you meet a lady with self-esteem issues (she feels ugly, she thinks is worthless), does this put you off? I used to have really low self esteem. Fab actually helped me. I fucked my way to confidence. No, not really. Well, kinda. Along with other thing like body positivity. " The only esteem that should be felt is off those wonderful curves | |||
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"Im finding more and more that the women here are confident and self assured. Ive messaged guys and been turned down...its ok im not for everyone. A guy nessages and gets rejected and i get called a slut, prick tease,cunt,fat .... its not me with the issues. Just an observation " To be honest with you it's idiots like that who make it a tougher time for the genuine ones, if they can name call they are not worthy of your time let alone company....an observation all to familiar on here these days unfortunately | |||
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"I don't really meet when my self esteem issues flare up - I work on bettering myself so they aren't so prevalent in my thoughts. I think most people have self esteem wibbles, it's not really a specific gender thing as a poster said above. As far as meeting others go? I have to admit, I like it when someone can relax around me and I can relax around them. If I am meeting someone (f or m) I want them to enjoy themselves wobbles and wibbles and all. Sex is meant to be fun and if it's overclouded with loads of hesitation, I might not enjoy it as much. " | |||
"Im finding more and more that the women here are confident and self assured. Ive messaged guys and been turned down...its ok im not for everyone. A guy nessages and gets rejected and i get called a slut, prick tease,cunt,fat .... its not me with the issues. Just an observation To be honest with you it's idiots like that who make it a tougher time for the genuine ones, if they can name call they are not worthy of your time let alone company....an observation all to familiar on here these days unfortunately " Fortunately im a very confident women .. i know my worth. They get none of me .. I'll reserve my engergy for someone that deserves it | |||
"Not really I am here for a bit of fun now and again nothing more nothing less. Interesting you pitched it this way though as there a huge number of guys on here with self esteem issues. Really. That’s interesting. I’ve heard that from another female recently. " It is sadly true and It would be better if women could let many of these guys down in a nice way but unfortunately if you do you are seen as a confidant or with some lashed out at. In the work place women have been made feel inadequate for decades and paid less to reinforce this only in the last decade achieving acknowledgement and appreciation. | |||
"Not really I am here for a bit of fun now and again nothing more nothing less. Interesting you pitched it this way though as there a huge number of guys on here with self esteem issues. Which are made worse by being on here. With the ratio of women to men... Women with low self esteem can feel bad because they know that everyone throwing cock pics at them are just after a fuck. Men with low esteem beat themselves up as they feel they cannot compete. There are only so many times you can get turned down before you either give up or get twattish. My profile gives an insight on the low self esteem male if you care to look." Do you really have low self esteem? I think you should give yourself more credit. You seem really self assured- I mean that in a nice way. I feel like I can't compete with the women on here so I don't. No point in me having pics. To answer the OP I think my self esteem is ok, I'm just realistic. I don't find mail on here an ego boost because it's all bollocks. I know exactly how to get my inbox full but it's just fake. They don't want *me*, they want a wet hole. | |||
"I like to help people learn to love their bodies. Everyone has hold ups, u less you’re some kind of god/goddess? " Even supermodels have some things they worry about. | |||
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"Im finding more and more that the women here are confident and self assured. Ive messaged guys and been turned down...its ok im not for everyone. A guy nessages and gets rejected and i get called a slut, prick tease,cunt,fat .... its not me with the issues. Just an observation To be honest with you it's idiots like that who make it a tougher time for the genuine ones, if they can name call they are not worthy of your time let alone company....an observation all to familiar on here these days unfortunately Fortunately im a very confident women .. i know my worth. They get none of me .. I'll reserve my engergy for someone that deserves it " Indeed and oh so worth it, an absolute pleasure as I can only imagine | |||
"I have two questions. One for the ladies and one for the gents. For the ladies: have you ever had self-esteem issues? Casual sex makes it better or worse for you? For the gents: if you meet a lady with self-esteem issues (she feels ugly, she thinks is worthless), does this put you off?" Yeah but not for aaaaages. Casual sex doesn’t affect it. | |||
" it's just fake. They don't want *me*, they want a wet hole. " I would like to think that this isn't true but it is I don't think this is the place for anyone with low self esteem. Meaningless fucks are just that - meaningless. And can leave you feeling empty and even worse if you're on here for anything other than fucking people that don't want you in their lives. They want a warm wet hole. It's a fuck site - I wouldn't worry about what anyone thinks of you on here. You have a vagina so you're already a winner | |||
" it's just fake. They don't want *me*, they want a wet hole. I would like to think that this isn't true but it is I don't think this is the place for anyone with low self esteem. Meaningless fucks are just that - meaningless. And can leave you feeling empty and even worse if you're on here for anything other than fucking people that don't want you in their lives. They want a warm wet hole. It's a fuck site - I wouldn't worry about what anyone thinks of you on here. You have a vagina so you're already a winner " Be it men or women who only see it as you put it "a warm wet hole" are in my opinion vermin with zero Morales or scruples for another human | |||
"I like to help people learn to love their bodies. Everyone has hold ups, u less you’re some kind of god/goddess? Even supermodels have some things they worry about. " I don’t doubt that... | |||
" it's just fake. They don't want *me*, they want a wet hole. I would like to think that this isn't true but it is I don't think this is the place for anyone with low self esteem. Meaningless fucks are just that - meaningless. And can leave you feeling empty and even worse if you're on here for anything other than fucking people that don't want you in their lives. They want a warm wet hole. It's a fuck site - I wouldn't worry about what anyone thinks of you on here. You have a vagina so you're already a winner " I'm kind of in awe of people that can do meaningless fucks. I bet it would be great. No guilt, no feeling bad, just fucking people and having fun together. Warm wet holes and hard cocks go well together if they're after the same thing. | |||
" it's just fake. They don't want *me*, they want a wet hole. I would like to think that this isn't true but it is I don't think this is the place for anyone with low self esteem. Meaningless fucks are just that - meaningless. And can leave you feeling empty and even worse if you're on here for anything other than fucking people that don't want you in their lives. They want a warm wet hole. It's a fuck site - I wouldn't worry about what anyone thinks of you on here. You have a vagina so you're already a winner Be it men or women who only see it as you put it "a warm wet hole" are in my opinion vermin with zero Morales or scruples for another human" Only if they lie about it. If they're both happy then it's fun. | |||
" it's just fake. They don't want *me*, they want a wet hole. I would like to think that this isn't true but it is I don't think this is the place for anyone with low self esteem. Meaningless fucks are just that - meaningless. And can leave you feeling empty and even worse if you're on here for anything other than fucking people that don't want you in their lives. They want a warm wet hole. It's a fuck site - I wouldn't worry about what anyone thinks of you on here. You have a vagina so you're already a winner I'm kind of in awe of people that can do meaningless fucks. I bet it would be great. No guilt, no feeling bad, just fucking people and having fun together. Warm wet holes and hard cocks go well together if they're after the same thing. " Yeah. I can’t do it. Some can and good luck to them though. Plenty can. Male and female. | |||
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"I have two questions. One for the ladies and one for the gents. For the ladies: have you ever had self-esteem issues? Casual sex makes it better or worse for you? For the gents: if you meet a lady with self-esteem issues (she feels ugly, she thinks is worthless), does this put you off?" I don't have self-esteem issues, I know my worth even if I feel rough because I am feeling down or carrying more weight than normal or something. I would say be very, very careful having casual sex if you do - it cannot affirm you in the deeper way you need, it can only give you some kicks, a bit of superficial 'feel good'. | |||
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"I have two questions. One for the ladies and one for the gents. For the ladies: have you ever had self-esteem issues? Casual sex makes it better or worse for you? For the gents: if you meet a lady with self-esteem issues (she feels ugly, she thinks is worthless), does this put you off?" It does slightly put me off. I like the woman to be able to trust that if I'm with her, then i fancy her. And I wanna see all her curves l | |||
" it's just fake. They don't want *me*, they want a wet hole. I would like to think that this isn't true but it is I don't think this is the place for anyone with low self esteem. Meaningless fucks are just that - meaningless. And can leave you feeling empty and even worse if you're on here for anything other than fucking people that don't want you in their lives. They want a warm wet hole. It's a fuck site - I wouldn't worry about what anyone thinks of you on here. You have a vagina so you're already a winner I'm kind of in awe of people that can do meaningless fucks. I bet it would be great. No guilt, no feeling bad, just fucking people and having fun together. Warm wet holes and hard cocks go well together if they're after the same thing. " They do, it's a bit like that saying of 'I cried all the way to the bank...' The first time I let some fit young man seduce me I was howling with laughter - 30 years ago when I met my ex-husband I was dating fit young men in their 20's, and 30 years later I was bedding exactly the same, it was hilarious! That's one big advantage of having sex with someone totally unsuitable for dating, you can just have fun for the hell of it. | |||
"Men love it when women have self-esteem issues. It usually means that they are generally easier to get into bed. If it was the other way around, however, it wouldn't work as women generally expect men to be sexy and confident. " Are you speaking for all men there then? | |||
"I have two questions. One for the ladies and one for the gents. For the ladies: have you ever had self-esteem issues? Casual sex makes it better or worse for you? For the gents: if you meet a lady with self-esteem issues (she feels ugly, she thinks is worthless), does this put you off?" not for me I'm good at building self-esteem and confidence in people I like | |||
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"Men love it when women have self-esteem issues. It usually means that they are generally easier to get into bed. If it was the other way around, however, it wouldn't work as women generally expect men to be sexy and confident. " Really? I think most women on this site can spot a bloke playing that game a mile away, we don’t all fall for looks, fake compliments or the six pack sort you know | |||
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"Men love it when women have self-esteem issues. It usually means that they are generally easier to get into bed. If it was the other way around, however, it wouldn't work as women generally expect men to be sexy and confident. Really? I think most women on this site can spot a bloke playing that game a mile away, we don’t all fall for looks, fake compliments or the six pack sort you know " Some of us have to fake it til we make it. | |||
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"Men love it when women have self-esteem issues. It usually means that they are generally easier to get into bed. If it was the other way around, however, it wouldn't work as women generally expect men to be sexy and confident. Really? I think most women on this site can spot a bloke playing that game a mile away, we don’t all fall for looks, fake compliments or the six pack sort you know Some of us have to fake it til we make it. " | |||
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" it's just fake. They don't want *me*, they want a wet hole. I would like to think that this isn't true but it is I don't think this is the place for anyone with low self esteem. Meaningless fucks are just that - meaningless. And can leave you feeling empty and even worse if you're on here for anything other than fucking people that don't want you in their lives. They want a warm wet hole. It's a fuck site - I wouldn't worry about what anyone thinks of you on here. You have a vagina so you're already a winner " That's it in a nut shell...this place is battering me after you give trust try and treat people how you would like to be treated. I'm trying so hard to understand the extremes people will go to. Investing a lot of time into what who knows because I really dont. So you are left feeling nothing at all in the end. Then you just become more sinical more distrusting and more oh yes Ive heard it all before. | |||
"After a while of casual meets I do get a burnt out feeling (no pun intended!) I start to feel like I’m only worth casual sex and not dateable....." It's funny I feel the opposite at times. I saw a really revealing meme on fb recently - 'Some people walk in a room and think 'Will they like me?' whereas I walk into a room and think 'Will I like them?'' | |||
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"I have two questions. One for the ladies and one for the gents. For the ladies: have you ever had self-esteem issues? Casual sex makes it better or worse for you? For the gents: if you meet a lady with self-esteem issues (she feels ugly, she thinks is worthless), does this put you off?" It would put my me off unfortunately to say. Confidence is a great attractive trait to me. I would try and figure out why they felt seeing as i like them enough to meet them. | |||
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"I'm fortunate to have never had self esteem issues. I have always been happy being me. As to how casual sex could impact on those with low self esteem, I would imagine it dependable the individual. It could make them feel better being desired or worse if they feel used... Nita" Between feeling like a piece of meat (as a woman), or constantly being rejected (as a man)... Fab isn't the healthiest place for those lacking confidence. That is why I have abandoned all hope and am only here to commit acts of twattery in the forum. It's a coping mechanism. A shit one at that. | |||
"I'm fortunate to have never had self esteem issues. I have always been happy being me. As to how casual sex could impact on those with low self esteem, I would imagine it dependable the individual. It could make them feel better being desired or worse if they feel used... Nita Between feeling like a piece of meat (as a woman), or constantly being rejected (as a man)... Fab isn't the healthiest place for those lacking confidence. That is why I have abandoned all hope and am only here to commit acts of twattery in the forum. It's a coping mechanism. A shit one at that." I think finding friendships can be great for that. People that want to know the you, not the contents of your knickers can be great for the soul | |||
"I'm fortunate to have never had self esteem issues. I have always been happy being me. As to how casual sex could impact on those with low self esteem, I would imagine it dependable the individual. It could make them feel better being desired or worse if they feel used... Nita Between feeling like a piece of meat (as a woman), or constantly being rejected (as a man)... Fab isn't the healthiest place for those lacking confidence. That is why I have abandoned all hope and am only here to commit acts of twattery in the forum. It's a coping mechanism. A shit one at that. I think finding friendships can be great for that. People that want to know the you, not the contents of your knickers can be great for the soul " +1 ×× | |||
"I'm fortunate to have never had self esteem issues. I have always been happy being me. As to how casual sex could impact on those with low self esteem, I would imagine it dependable the individual. It could make them feel better being desired or worse if they feel used... Nita Between feeling like a piece of meat (as a woman), or constantly being rejected (as a man)... Fab isn't the healthiest place for those lacking confidence. That is why I have abandoned all hope and am only here to commit acts of twattery in the forum. It's a coping mechanism. A shit one at that." Im not far behind you on this one hah | |||
"I'm fortunate to have never had self esteem issues. I have always been happy being me. As to how casual sex could impact on those with low self esteem, I would imagine it dependable the individual. It could make them feel better being desired or worse if they feel used... Nita Between feeling like a piece of meat (as a woman), or constantly being rejected (as a man)... Fab isn't the healthiest place for those lacking confidence. That is why I have abandoned all hope and am only here to commit acts of twattery in the forum. It's a coping mechanism. A shit one at that. Im not far behind you on this one hah " And I’m right behind you! | |||
"I'm fortunate to have never had self esteem issues. I have always been happy being me. As to how casual sex could impact on those with low self esteem, I would imagine it dependable the individual. It could make them feel better being desired or worse if they feel used... Nita Between feeling like a piece of meat (as a woman), or constantly being rejected (as a man)... Fab isn't the healthiest place for those lacking confidence. That is why I have abandoned all hope and am only here to commit acts of twattery in the forum. It's a coping mechanism. A shit one at that. Im not far behind you on this one hah And I’m right behind you!" Slip skip away | |||
"Men love it when women have self-esteem issues. It usually means that they are generally easier to get into bed. If it was the other way around, however, it wouldn't work as women generally expect men to be sexy and confident. " Only losers go for girls with low self esteem. It's a complete turn off for me | |||
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"I'm fortunate to have never had self esteem issues. I have always been happy being me. As to how casual sex could impact on those with low self esteem, I would imagine it dependable the individual. It could make them feel better being desired or worse if they feel used... Nita Between feeling like a piece of meat (as a woman), or constantly being rejected (as a man)... Fab isn't the healthiest place for those lacking confidence. That is why I have abandoned all hope and am only here to commit acts of twattery in the forum. It's a coping mechanism. A shit one at that. I think finding friendships can be great for that. People that want to know the you, not the contents of your knickers can be great for the soul " Yup, most of us get bored with nsa and seek people who actually want to know us. | |||
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"I have two questions. One for the ladies and one for the gents. For the ladies: have you ever had self-esteem issues? Casual sex makes it better or worse for you? For the gents: if you meet a lady with self-esteem issues (she feels ugly, she thinks is worthless), does this put you off?" Sometimes it seems like the majority of women I know have got self-esteem issues; which doesn't particularly surprise me (not because they are ugly or horrible people) but rather because there us a multi-billion dollar a year industry all based upon making women feel shit and inferior and insecure so they can be manipulated into buying clothes and products and make-up and fad diets to try and make them feel better about themselves...and this industry has indoctrinated them from such an early age that it's been imprinted upon them at a formative stage and they've essential had a lifetime of not feeling good enough. In fact, it's so good at doing this mindfuckery, sometimes it even manages to get the Mums of these girls to do its job for them, by imprinting all of the hang ups and insecurities they developed onto their kids. It's monetising misery and it's fucking dark as you like. If they feel ugly or horrible but they're not, it wouldn't put me off in the slightest, because I can see them for what they really are, and having had enough of my own self-esteem issues in the past, I just don't have it in me to be quite *that* much of a hypocrite... | |||
"I have two questions. One for the ladies and one for the gents. For the ladies: have you ever had self-esteem issues? Casual sex makes it better or worse for you? For the gents: if you meet a lady with self-esteem issues (she feels ugly, she thinks is worthless), does this put you off? Sometimes it seems like the majority of women I know have got self-esteem issues; which doesn't particularly surprise me (not because they are ugly or horrible people) but rather because there us a multi-billion dollar a year industry all based upon making women feel shit and inferior and insecure so they can be manipulated into buying clothes and products and make-up and fad diets to try and make them feel better about themselves...and this industry has indoctrinated them from such an early age that it's been imprinted upon them at a formative stage and they've essential had a lifetime of not feeling good enough. In fact, it's so good at doing this mindfuckery, sometimes it even manages to get the Mums of these girls to do its job for them, by imprinting all of the hang ups and insecurities they developed onto their kids. It's monetising misery and it's fucking dark as you like. If they feel ugly or horrible but they're not, it wouldn't put me off in the slightest, because I can see them for what they really are, and having had enough of my own self-esteem issues in the past, I just don't have it in me to be quite *that* much of a hypocrite..." Toxic feminity | |||
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"I have two questions. One for the ladies and one for the gents. For the ladies: have you ever had self-esteem issues? Casual sex makes it better or worse for you? For the gents: if you meet a lady with self-esteem issues (she feels ugly, she thinks is worthless), does this put you off? Sometimes it seems like the majority of women I know have got self-esteem issues; which doesn't particularly surprise me (not because they are ugly or horrible people) but rather because there us a multi-billion dollar a year industry all based upon making women feel shit and inferior and insecure so they can be manipulated into buying clothes and products and make-up and fad diets to try and make them feel better about themselves...and this industry has indoctrinated them from such an early age that it's been imprinted upon them at a formative stage and they've essential had a lifetime of not feeling good enough. In fact, it's so good at doing this mindfuckery, sometimes it even manages to get the Mums of these girls to do its job for them, by imprinting all of the hang ups and insecurities they developed onto their kids. It's monetising misery and it's fucking dark as you like. If they feel ugly or horrible but they're not, it wouldn't put me off in the slightest, because I can see them for what they really are, and having had enough of my own self-esteem issues in the past, I just don't have it in me to be quite *that* much of a hypocrite... Toxic feminity " I'm not sure I quite understand what you're saying? The Mums doing that to their kids? Or something else? | |||
"I'm not sure about self-esteem issues - it's natural for us all to have ups and downs on many of our personality dimensions, rather than be static. I tend not to be my fuller sexual self if something is amis on the inside and so focus my energy on that and not casual sex. I accept people for who they are and would take greater care of someone if I thought they were very sensitive - but I don't rescue people and may not engage with them for a shag if it didn't seem right for both. We all have a duty of care for each other, which is particularly important when people are vulnerable " | |||
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"I have been fat all my life Throughout school I was the fat kid and, even worse, I was clever too. Bullying was the norm. Despte this, I lost my virginity early and had several sexual partners before I actually had any meaningful sex I never felt good enough and self-identified as a receptacle Having sex with someone did, however, provide the positive attention I craved I had my first 'serious' relationship in my mid 20's and whilst happy, it was for a period fraught with periods of unhappiness and periods where we were more companions than lovers My bi-sexuality always seemed to raise it's head and when things didn't go too well, was always thrown in my face An understanding did develop over time, however, and we found a way to make it work. Again, I was free to explore and explore I did I used to meet a lot (invariably guys cos it was easier, but sometimes women too) The meets always left me elated, only to be followed by periods of despair at how hollow it all was Nothing - euphoria - nothing became a pretty constant cycle I was well into my 30's before I recognised that there are people who like the bigger guy and, more importantly, there are people who like me for me It was only then that I started to celebrate and market my short arse chunkyness and again, many meets followed only this time, I had some confidence that they actually liked me That, in itself, is liberating Nowadays, meets don't really figure. My sex life is pretty non-existant, but that is through choice. If I'd still been so inclined, for example, I could have had 10-15 meets this weekend alone I'm just not all that interested in 95% of people, they don't bring anything new or original to the table. I am so much better than getting back on the treadmill of meets, just because I can So, in answering the OP, self esteem has had detrimental effects on my sex life for years (and vice versa, my sex life had detrimental effects on my self esteem) Now though, self esteem has become something empowering for me. I love me more now than I have ever done. I know me more. I understand me more. I am more in control. I know my worth. I can embrace my past. It isn't put in a box. It has been something to learn from. So, if you are feeling low or down on yourself, learn to love you, all of you and the rest will follow. As cliche as that sounds, only by knowing and understanding yourself can you expect to have any sense of self esteem. You aren't going to be given it by others. --- In answer to your second question, yes, I would meet someone with outwardly obvious self esteem as long as we got to know each other a bit first and actually addressed the white elephant. If I sensed it and thought the other person was fucking me to feel better about themselves, however, it would get nipped in the bud pretty quickly. I hope my candidly honest answer helps in some way " It helped me. | |||
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"It does make sense but surprises me to be honest. Do you mean finding a relationship on here or in the “real world?” You’re not exactly huge, well you don’t look it from your pics. Not all men want stick thin women x" In the real world! I learnt the hard way that Fab is not the place to even think about that! | |||
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"It does make sense but surprises me to be honest. Do you mean finding a relationship on here or in the “real world?” You’re not exactly huge, well you don’t look it from your pics. Not all men want stick thin women x In the real world! I learnt the hard way that Fab is not the place to even think about that! " I know, that’s why I asked. I read it that you could have meant finding a relationship on here. Probably not the best place. Still surprises me though. | |||
"I have two questions. One for the ladies and one for the gents. For the ladies: have you ever had self-esteem issues? Casual sex makes it better or worse for you? For the gents: if you meet a lady with self-esteem issues (she feels ugly, she thinks is worthless), does this put you off?" too much confidence can seem like arrogance to some so transversely lack of it could appear very unattractive | |||
"Not really I am here for a bit of fun now and again nothing more nothing less. Interesting you pitched it this way though as there a huge number of guys on here with self esteem issues. " That's true. And in answer to the question. It can be off putting yes. | |||