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By *good-being-bad OP Man
over a year ago
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A program starting on itv shortly about housing ...apparently 1 in 5 households are now renting.
I'd have thought there was a significantly higher proportion renting housing in the post war years of the 50's 60's 70's.
Is there a crisis if folk are in housing?
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By *an_LexaCouple
over a year ago
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I think a lot more of the younger generation don’t own anything these days. It’s not necessarily a bad thing. Nothing can be taken from them in reality because they don’t own it.
They rent their homes, phones are on contracts, expensive cars on lease. They always want the next top model of everything so to speak.
As I say I’m not sure it’s necessarily a bad way to live, just very different from how I was brought up to save for and aim to own your own everything.
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"A program starting on itv shortly about housing ...apparently 1 in 5 households are now renting.
I'd have thought there was a significantly higher proportion renting housing in the post war years of the 50's 60's 70's.
Is there a crisis if folk are in housing?
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There is if people aren’t able to sustain rents and accruing shortfall. For example, in London many people are becoming homeless as they are on for sake of an example, possibly a zero hours contract and aren’t guaranteed a definite amount coming in as aren’t guaranteed hours, or issues where Local Housing Allowance doesn’t match rent amounts and so any legitimate period of time when needing to claim benefits the rent amount can’t be covered. |
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By *good-being-bad OP Man
over a year ago
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"A program starting on itv shortly about housing ...apparently 1 in 5 households are now renting.
I'd have thought there was a significantly higher proportion renting housing in the post war years of the 50's 60's 70's.
Is there a crisis if folk are in housing?
There is if people aren’t able to sustain rents and accruing shortfall. For example, in London many people are becoming homeless as they are on for sake of an example, possibly a zero hours contract and aren’t guaranteed a definite amount coming in as aren’t guaranteed hours, or issues where Local Housing Allowance doesn’t match rent amounts and so any legitimate period of time when needing to claim benefits the rent amount can’t be covered. "
I'm not watching the program..the synopsis I'd read seemed to say the cost of ownership was now out of reach of a lot of folk..  |
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"A program starting on itv shortly about housing ...apparently 1 in 5 households are now renting.
I'd have thought there was a significantly higher proportion renting housing in the post war years of the 50's 60's 70's.
Is there a crisis if folk are in housing?
There is if people aren’t able to sustain rents and accruing shortfall. For example, in London many people are becoming homeless as they are on for sake of an example, possibly a zero hours contract and aren’t guaranteed a definite amount coming in as aren’t guaranteed hours, or issues where Local Housing Allowance doesn’t match rent amounts and so any legitimate period of time when needing to claim benefits the rent amount can’t be covered. "
Move from London then  |
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By *an_LexaCouple
over a year ago
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"A program starting on itv shortly about housing ...apparently 1 in 5 households are now renting.
I'd have thought there was a significantly higher proportion renting housing in the post war years of the 50's 60's 70's.
Is there a crisis if folk are in housing?
There is if people aren’t able to sustain rents and accruing shortfall. For example, in London many people are becoming homeless as they are on for sake of an example, possibly a zero hours contract and aren’t guaranteed a definite amount coming in as aren’t guaranteed hours, or issues where Local Housing Allowance doesn’t match rent amounts and so any legitimate period of time when needing to claim benefits the rent amount can’t be covered. "
They can look to apply to their local authority for discretionary housing payments |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"A program starting on itv shortly about housing ...apparently 1 in 5 households are now renting.
I'd have thought there was a significantly higher proportion renting housing in the post war years of the 50's 60's 70's.
Is there a crisis if folk are in housing?
There is if people aren’t able to sustain rents and accruing shortfall. For example, in London many people are becoming homeless as they are on for sake of an example, possibly a zero hours contract and aren’t guaranteed a definite amount coming in as aren’t guaranteed hours, or issues where Local Housing Allowance doesn’t match rent amounts and so any legitimate period of time when needing to claim benefits the rent amount can’t be covered.
Move from London then "
I work in homelessness in London. I’m not talking about me. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"A program starting on itv shortly about housing ...apparently 1 in 5 households are now renting.
I'd have thought there was a significantly higher proportion renting housing in the post war years of the 50's 60's 70's.
Is there a crisis if folk are in housing?
There is if people aren’t able to sustain rents and accruing shortfall. For example, in London many people are becoming homeless as they are on for sake of an example, possibly a zero hours contract and aren’t guaranteed a definite amount coming in as aren’t guaranteed hours, or issues where Local Housing Allowance doesn’t match rent amounts and so any legitimate period of time when needing to claim benefits the rent amount can’t be covered.
They can look to apply to their local authority for discretionary housing payments "
Yes, but it’s not a guarantee not long term sustainable. But yes. I was just answering the question though as an example of how someone in housing could still be in crisis.  |
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"A program starting on itv shortly about housing ...apparently 1 in 5 households are now renting.
I'd have thought there was a significantly higher proportion renting housing in the post war years of the 50's 60's 70's.
Is there a crisis if folk are in housing?
There is if people aren’t able to sustain rents and accruing shortfall. For example, in London many people are becoming homeless as they are on for sake of an example, possibly a zero hours contract and aren’t guaranteed a definite amount coming in as aren’t guaranteed hours, or issues where Local Housing Allowance doesn’t match rent amounts and so any legitimate period of time when needing to claim benefits the rent amount can’t be covered.
I'm not watching the program..the synopsis I'd read seemed to say the cost of ownership was now out of reach of a lot of folk.. "
Perhaps I misunderstood your specific query, still there’s a lot of issues with housing policy! |
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"A program starting on itv shortly about housing ...apparently 1 in 5 households are now renting.
I'd have thought there was a significantly higher proportion renting housing in the post war years of the 50's 60's 70's.
Is there a crisis if folk are in housing?
There is if people aren’t able to sustain rents and accruing shortfall. For example, in London many people are becoming homeless as they are on for sake of an example, possibly a zero hours contract and aren’t guaranteed a definite amount coming in as aren’t guaranteed hours, or issues where Local Housing Allowance doesn’t match rent amounts and so any legitimate period of time when needing to claim benefits the rent amount can’t be covered.
Move from London then "
They'll all move to Ashby de la douche and push up the property prices there too. They'll bring their kids with them so your schools will have to expand. And there'll be plenty of jobs going for them all too I imagine.
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"A program starting on itv shortly about housing ...apparently 1 in 5 households are now renting.
I'd have thought there was a significantly higher proportion renting housing in the post war years of the 50's 60's 70's.
Is there a crisis if folk are in housing?
There is if people aren’t able to sustain rents and accruing shortfall. For example, in London many people are becoming homeless as they are on for sake of an example, possibly a zero hours contract and aren’t guaranteed a definite amount coming in as aren’t guaranteed hours, or issues where Local Housing Allowance doesn’t match rent amounts and so any legitimate period of time when needing to claim benefits the rent amount can’t be covered.
Move from London then
They'll all move to Ashby de la douche and push up the property prices there too. They'll bring their kids with them so your schools will have to expand. And there'll be plenty of jobs going for them all too I imagine.
How long do you have to wait to see your gp?"
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By *good-being-bad OP Man
over a year ago
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"i think you meant 1 in 5 rent privately.
37% of households are rented; 20% private and 17% social. Home ownership has been in decline since 2001"
I'll go with your figures ..I only read the synopsis of the program.. I thought it a strange title 'crisis' if folk were in housing or a poor title if it was more about.. not being able to afford to buy to my mind crisis would be I didn't have a roof over my head  |
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I haven't seen the show but I'm going to be controversial before the millennial and 'snowflake generation' bashing happens...
It might be the babyboomers or the older generation blocking houses and not downsizing. Owning multiple houses but only living in one. Having holiday homes but only using them one week of the year.
Then there's the argument "well it's my money I can do what I want with it!" and "I earned this house and I don't have to move or downsize!" or "I bought this house in 1965 and I've no intention of moving even though it's now worth £650k!" etc.
People blocking houses, yes. Houses too expensive, yes. Cheaper houses too far away from where you work and the cost of the commute canceling out any savings you may make, yes. The government not really doing anything about it, yes.
Not really any right answer here. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Very soon, even rent will no longer be affordable as demand will soon outstrip supply. Landlords are busy rubbing their hands...  "
Not if the houses going up round us are anything to go by, 3 roads out of my village and 4 massive estates going up on them. All the villages will join up soon. |
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"I haven't seen the show but I'm going to be controversial before the millennial and 'snowflake generation' bashing happens...
It might be the babyboomers or the older generation blocking houses and not downsizing. Owning multiple houses but only living in one. Having holiday homes but only using them one week of the year.
Then there's the argument "well it's my money I can do what I want with it!" and "I earned this house and I don't have to move or downsize!" or "I bought this house in 1965 and I've no intention of moving even though it's now worth £650k!" etc.
People blocking houses, yes. Houses too expensive, yes. Cheaper houses too far away from where you work and the cost of the commute canceling out any savings you may make, yes. The government not really doing anything about it, yes.
Not really any right answer here."
Nail on the head right here.
For a quick comparison of the two generations.
My parents own 5 houses....
And we had to put a deposit down of 16% to buy our first house......now call the average price for a semi detached house about £225k, that’s a £36k deposit.
The above is why we had to buy a fucked terraced house that we did up ourselves to get started on the ladder. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Try checking the Shelter web site.
Current estimates are that one additional family becomes homeless every 17 seconds. Many are in work and are still dependant on benefits due to the low salaries and high housing cost. Many are made homeless because they are on shorthold tendencies. Many are evicted to allow landlords to increase rents or flip properties to maximise profits. Many don't even qualify as homeless, usually single males, sofa surfers, etc.
The problem is not just restricted to London. This is a UK wide shambles and as winter approaches so will the numbers dying on the streets, just like every year... |
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"I haven't seen the show but I'm going to be controversial before the millennial and 'snowflake generation' bashing happens...
It might be the babyboomers or the older generation blocking houses and not downsizing. Owning multiple houses but only living in one. Having holiday homes but only using them one week of the year.
Then there's the argument "well it's my money I can do what I want with it!" and "I earned this house and I don't have to move or downsize!" or "I bought this house in 1965 and I've no intention of moving even though it's now worth £650k!" etc.
People blocking houses, yes. Houses too expensive, yes. Cheaper houses too far away from where you work and the cost of the commute canceling out any savings you may make, yes. The government not really doing anything about it, yes.
Not really any right answer here.
Nail on the head right here.
For a quick comparison of the two generations.
My parents own 5 houses....
And we had to put a deposit down of 16% to buy our first house......now call the average price for a semi detached house about £225k, that’s a £36k deposit.
The above is why we had to buy a fucked terraced house that we did up ourselves to get started on the ladder. "
The average person wants a house they can live in and not do up and rent out. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I haven't seen the show but I'm going to be controversial before the millennial and 'snowflake generation' bashing happens...
It might be the babyboomers or the older generation blocking houses and not downsizing. Owning multiple houses but only living in one. Having holiday homes but only using them one week of the year.
Then there's the argument "well it's my money I can do what I want with it!" and "I earned this house and I don't have to move or downsize!" or "I bought this house in 1965 and I've no intention of moving even though it's now worth £650k!" etc.
People blocking houses, yes. Houses too expensive, yes. Cheaper houses too far away from where you work and the cost of the commute canceling out any savings you may make, yes. The government not really doing anything about it, yes.
Not really any right answer here.
Nail on the head right here.
For a quick comparison of the two generations.
My parents own 5 houses....
And we had to put a deposit down of 16% to buy our first house......now call the average price for a semi detached house about £225k, that’s a £36k deposit.
The above is why we had to buy a fucked terraced house that we did up ourselves to get started on the ladder.
The average person wants a house they can live in and not do up and rent out. "
Have you missed the point here or something?
The average person these days, my generation if you will. Struggle because the supply is clogged up with multiple houses owned by the older generation who were able to get a mortgage at the drop of a hat and next to no deposit. Which then in turn makes those houses only available for private rent.
We bought ours at 21 to do up and live in, because we couldn’t afford the deposit on much else. Anything that was finished was well out of our budget.
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