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So I’ve supported United since I was six , and the current spat between Mourinho and Pogba is clearly affecting the team in a very negative way . So , who should leave ?
I honestly think Pogba as he clearly thinks he’s bigger than the club , and his form is so erratic . |
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As long as Mourinho is there you can kiss goodbye the hopes of bringing any major homegrown youth talent again! He just doesn't like working with anything other than the finished article |
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"As long as Mourinho is there you can kiss goodbye the hopes of bringing any major homegrown youth talent again! He just doesn't like working with anything other than the finished article "
Like Sanchez... |
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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago
There and to the left a bit |
Whilst I agree that one man isn't bigger than the team - but appears both of them think they are.
Pogba can't go until January whereas they can lose Jose any time - so my thinking would be to lose Jose now, see if that changes Pogba's attitude and if not lose him in January. |
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"As long as Mourinho is there you can kiss goodbye the hopes of bringing any major homegrown youth talent again! He just doesn't like working with anything other than the finished article
Like Sanchez..."
I have a feeling he may be changing this very soon as Sanchez , Pogba , Shaw and pretty much all the players that are the finished article are struggling under him . |
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Personally I used to rate Jose but since his second stint at Chelsea he has been poor to be fair, very moody and believes in his own Special One Hype to much, I don't think he is the man to get Man Utd back to where they once were. So to your Question Jose to leave, Pogba can be immense under the right management  |
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"Whilst I agree that one man isn't bigger than the team - but appears both of them think they are.
Pogba can't go until January whereas they can lose Jose any time - so my thinking would be to lose Jose now, see if that changes Pogba's attitude and if not lose him in January."
That’s a good call , but who could replace him ?
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"Personally I used to rate Jose but since his second stint at Chelsea he has been poor to be fair, very moody and believes in his own Special One Hype to much, I don't think he is the man to get Man Utd back to where they once were. So to your Question Jose to leave, Pogba can be immense under the right management "
Agreed , and perhaps after seeing Pogba in the World Cup you are right .
So who could replace him ? |
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"As long as Mourinho is there you can kiss goodbye the hopes of bringing any major homegrown youth talent again! He just doesn't like working with anything other than the finished article
Like Sanchez...
I have a feeling he may be changing this very soon as Sanchez , Pogba , Shaw and pretty much all the players that are the finished article are struggling under him ."
That's why I think Mourinho has to go. If it was just Pogba under-performing then I'd understand getting rid but when a lot of players are under-performing you have to look at the management. |
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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago
There and to the left a bit |
"Whilst I agree that one man isn't bigger than the team - but appears both of them think they are.
Pogba can't go until January whereas they can lose Jose any time - so my thinking would be to lose Jose now, see if that changes Pogba's attitude and if not lose him in January.
That’s a good call , but who could replace him ?
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Well since the sad passing of his brother, Paul Chuckle is available - he'd be the perfect choice for me
Imagine the tactical team talk "Right lads I want you to pass the ball, to me, to you, to me, to you" |
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I'd like to see Zidane there. I think he is a big enough name to command respect of the seasoned players and also to inspire the younger ones. He did a great job at Madrid. I think he would change pogbas attitude. I think all pogba wants Is to know the manager will let him play his own game. When he does that he is inspirational and fantastic. |
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"I'd like to see Zidane there. I think he is a big enough name to command respect of the seasoned players and also to inspire the younger ones. He did a great job at Madrid. I think he would change pogbas attitude. I think all pogba wants Is to know the manager will let him play his own game. When he does that he is inspirational and fantastic. "
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"Deschamps - Mauricio Pochettino or I think Simeone would be good
Oi hands off Poch!!!"
They're more than welcome to have Steve Bruce if they want. Please. Take him. |
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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago
There and to the left a bit |
"Deschamps - Mauricio Pochettino or I think Simeone would be good
Oi hands off Poch!!!
They're more than welcome to have Steve Bruce if they want. Please. Take him."
Oh now there's a good call and he's an ex-player of theirs - recipe for success as we showed at Spurs with Hoddle, Ardiles, and a few more |
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"All of them should go we’re shit at the moment
You’re not wrong Now Now that young ball boy wasn't to bad last night , he worked his socks off  "
After seeing us score after a couple of minutes , I said to my wife , well that’s fucked it then . She asked what I meant , and I predicted a draw . And that we would lose on penalties . She told me not to be so daft ..... |
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"Rafa Benitez will no doubt be free soon
I’m liking the Zidane idea to be honest "
If he ends up their I hope you will give me a suitable thank you. Xxlol |
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"So I’ve supported United since I was six , and the current spat between Mourinho and Pogba is clearly affecting the team in a very negative way . So , who should leave ?
I honestly think Pogba as he clearly thinks he’s bigger than the club , and his form is so erratic . "
If you've seen the video of then during training this morning you'll know pogba is the one who is getting too big for his boots. |
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I see signs of Mourinho doing the same things that he did to us (Chelsea) in his second stint in charge.
It was obvious that he wanted to move to Man Utd when it was obvious that Louis van Gaal was making a pig's ear of things and it was obvious that Utd wanted him. Of course he knew that if he walked away he wouldn't get a red cent so he manipulated the club to sack him so he would get a massive payout. Starting with the disgraceful way he treated Eva Caneiro, followed up by his criticism and undermining of the top players which resulted in players like Eden Hazard, Willian and Diego Costa getting pissed off and underperforming.
I used to love the guy and I'll always be grateful to him for all the titles and cups he brought us buy he's a massive cock who's selfish, arrogant and destructive.
He's doing the same thing at United ... just my opinion but I think he's got his eyes on another job. |
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"So I’ve supported United since I was six , and the current spat between Mourinho and Pogba is clearly affecting the team in a very negative way . So , who should leave ?
I honestly think Pogba as he clearly thinks he’s bigger than the club , and his form is so erratic . "
What did Sir Alex do in the past?
First Beckham then Ronaldo.
In this case Jose will be gone first I think. The guy looks fuzzed. Similar to how a PM looks after their first year or so.
All we need now is dodgy dancing from Jose and it's confirmed |
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Im not a fan of any English team but do find mourinho extremely negative to listen to. If he was the manager of my team I'd want shot of him. Pogba is a great player but I'm sure all this pish he's causing was spotted by fergie early on in his career and that's why he got rid. So to answer your question op, both of them should go |
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Tough call........
If one player is out of sorts, underperforming, unhappy and making waves, off he goes.
If the whole team is out of sorts, underperforming, unhappy and making waves off goes the manager.
Jose isn't the guy he was when he first landed in the UK. He's changed and not for the better.
I don't think Jose has changed with times in the same way other top managers have.
I read an article a while ago comparing Jose to Pep.
Jose simply wants players who are the finished article.
Pep takes the finished article and makes it even better.....
Jose's style of man management has had its day. |
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"Tough call........
If one player is out of sorts, underperforming, unhappy and making waves, off he goes.
If the whole team is out of sorts, underperforming, unhappy and making waves off goes the manager.
Jose isn't the guy he was when he first landed in the UK. He's changed and not for the better.
I don't think Jose has changed with times in the same way other top managers have.
I read an article a while ago comparing Jose to Pep.
Jose simply wants players who are the finished article.
Pep takes the finished article and makes it even better.....
Jose's style of man management has had its day."
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The special one is no longer special in my eyes, been a united fan all my life and was there when they won the treble in 99 best night of my life. Problem with today's players is they think they are bigger then the club (which they are not) and just have a day to the right people they want out and the rumour mill starts in the papers etc! Same with Jose and I agree he buys finished articles with no intention of home grown players, yes there is rashford and linguard but that's not enough, he just tries to buy the league, I say Zindane in as boss, pogba out and kroos, mbeppe in... At least we might be able to best teams like the mighty Derby then...!! |
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"As long as Mourinho is there you can kiss goodbye the hopes of bringing any major homegrown youth talent again! He just doesn't like working with anything other than the finished article
Like Sanchez...
I have a feeling he may be changing this very soon as Sanchez , Pogba , Shaw and pretty much all the players that are the finished article are struggling under him .
That's why I think Mourinho has to go. If it was just Pogba under-performing then I'd understand getting rid but when a lot of players are under-performing you have to look at the management. "
Pogba is a respected and talented player. His underwhelming turnouts are a reflection of how Mourinho can have that effect. He did it to some astoundingly gifted players at Chelsea.
He inherited an awesome squad there and only had to make a few tweaks. And the rotating door that happened for a few years with certain buys that he decided weren't doing what he wanted got glossed over by the existing core that preceded his arrival.
He shouldn't even last his usual three year stint at Man' U. |
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Jose, of course.
Pogba still has a lot to offer. He was great at the World Cup.
Jose's time has gone. Going one-nil up and then trying to defend and contain is not how big and successful teams play. |
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"Jose, of course.
Pogba still has a lot to offer. He was great at the World Cup.
Jose's time has gone. Going one-nil up and then trying to defend and contain is not how big and successful teams play. "
It’s rare I agree with you , but I can’t argue with that . It works fir him when he first came over to manage Chelsea . He’s been sussed out now , and you’re right , it’s no way to entertain or play the game now .
What staggers me is the amount of times we’ve had Sanchez , Liengard , Rashford , Lukaku and Martial all on the field at the same time , and we can’t score ! |
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"Jose, of course.
Pogba still has a lot to offer. He was great at the World Cup.
Jose's time has gone. Going one-nil up and then trying to defend and contain is not how big and successful teams play.
It’s rare I agree with you , but I can’t argue with that . It works fir him when he first came over to manage Chelsea . He’s been sussed out now , and you’re right , it’s no way to entertain or play the game now .
What staggers me is the amount of times we’ve had Sanchez , Liengard , Rashford , Lukaku and Martial all on the field at the same time , and we can’t score ! "
Think yourself lucky.
We've got Giroud who isn't exactly prolific and Morata who couldn't hit a cows arse with a banjo and thinks every time he's tackled it's a foul and stops playing...
God we miss the likes of Jimmy Floyd and Costa who banged in goals for fun. |
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Funny how fergie got rid perhaps it’s him big time Charlie and all this fergie got shot of players who thought they where bigger than the club he backed down to Rooney when it looked like he was off to city |
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"So I’ve supported United since I was six , and the current spat between Mourinho and Pogba is clearly affecting the team in a very negative way . So , who should leave ?
I honestly think Pogba as he clearly thinks he’s bigger than the club , and his form is so erratic . "
Are you kidding? Half the team hate Jose and the other half dislike him strongly. It's obvious why. Everytime they lose, he throws his players under the bus. His giant ego won't allow him to see that it's his shitty tactics that cost them games, but first he blames the ref, then his players, then the weather, then the pitch, then the ballboy, Brexit and the value of the pound before he takes responsibility. |
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"So I’ve supported United since I was six , and the current spat between Mourinho and Pogba is clearly affecting the team in a very negative way . So , who should leave ?
I honestly think Pogba as he clearly thinks he’s bigger than the club , and his form is so erratic . "
Following a team from 200 miles away which you have no connection with via the tv isn't "supporting" a football club, by the way. |
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"Im not a fan of any English team but do find mourinho extremely negative to listen to. If he was the manager of my team I'd want shot of him. Pogba is a great player but I'm sure all this pish he's causing was spotted by fergie early on in his career and that's why he got rid. So to answer your question op, both of them should go "
I don't support them lot but even I know he didn't get rid of pogba like you say, it was the other way around riola had just become pogbas agent and advised him to not sign the new deal which led to him signing with juve on a free transfer and then they resigned him for £89 mill lol |
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By *ikeC81Man
over a year ago
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I have seen this question asked 100 times on social media; Facebook, Twitter, WhatsApp
Personally both are to blame
Pogba is over paid lazy French twat that thinks he is gods gift to footballing world. Jose has lost the dressing room, because some players are taking the piss!!!!
For the sake of the club they both need to sort it out or leave end off |
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Never really rated either of them,one who takes over championship winning teams until now. Now having to build a team...failed
A player who thinks he's a world football super star...the problem is he needs true football super stars around him to get a bit of a shine out of him.
Just my thoughts |
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"So I’ve supported United since I was six , and the current spat between Mourinho and Pogba is clearly affecting the team in a very negative way . So , who should leave ?
I honestly think Pogba as he clearly thinks he’s bigger than the club , and his form is so erratic .
Are you kidding? Half the team hate Jose and the other half dislike him strongly. It's obvious why. Everytime they lose, he throws his players under the bus. His giant ego won't allow him to see that it's his shitty tactics that cost them games, but first he blames the ref, then his players, then the weather, then the pitch, then the ballboy, Brexit and the value of the pound before he takes responsibility. "
As I said , wth the team he puts out it seems staggering that we can’t score more goals . It’s hardly a defensive line up , ever .
So the players dislike him , because he blames them . Why shouldn’t he ? It’s their fault . Especially Pogba who only plays well when he wants to . I’ve never agreed with the principle of letting the workers have all the power . A boss is a boss for a reason , and if the team aren’t behind him , I actually think it would be better to shot of them rather than the boss . But that’s way too expensive , so the boss always gets the bullet .
In this case , as Mourinho has a history , I think he may well get the push , leaving us with the job of finding yet another manager . Just like when !att Busby left in the seventies . Such a shame for a great club to have so much of their dirty washing being aired in public this . |
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"So I’ve supported United since I was six , and the current spat between Mourinho and Pogba is clearly affecting the team in a very negative way . So , who should leave ?
I honestly think Pogba as he clearly thinks he’s bigger than the club , and his form is so erratic .
Following a team from 200 miles away which you have no connection with via the tv isn't "supporting" a football club, by the way."
Thank you so much for your contribution to the thread |
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"I have seen this question asked 100 times on social media; Facebook, Twitter, WhatsApp
Personally both are to blame
Pogba is over paid lazy French twat that thinks he is gods gift to footballing world. Jose has lost the dressing room, because some players are taking the piss!!!!
For the sake of the club they both need to sort it out or leave end off "
Probably the best answer so far |
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Personally in don’t think its Pogba that is the problem, even when so called pundits claim he has been playing shite I think he has played quite well and as he has recently proven in the WC he can be immense.
The problem is Mourinho, he brings so much negativity to the club, other key players are demoralised and performances clearly show that.
He has lost the changing room and it’s time he leaves sooner than later - I have friends who support other rivals and are praying he doesn’t get the sack!
That shows where the problem lies. |
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"So I’ve supported United since I was six , and the current spat between Mourinho and Pogba is clearly affecting the team in a very negative way . So , who should leave ?
I honestly think Pogba as he clearly thinks he’s bigger than the club , and his form is so erratic .
Are you kidding? Half the team hate Jose and the other half dislike him strongly. It's obvious why. Everytime they lose, he throws his players under the bus. His giant ego won't allow him to see that it's his shitty tactics that cost them games, but first he blames the ref, then his players, then the weather, then the pitch, then the ballboy, Brexit and the value of the pound before he takes responsibility.
As I said , wth the team he puts out it seems staggering that we can’t score more goals . It’s hardly a defensive line up , ever .
So the players dislike him , because he blames them . Why shouldn’t he ? It’s their fault . Especially Pogba who only plays well when he wants to . I’ve never agreed with the principle of letting the workers have all the power . A boss is a boss for a reason , and if the team aren’t behind him , I actually think it would be better to shot of them rather than the boss . But that’s way too expensive , so the boss always gets the bullet .
In this case , as Mourinho has a history , I think he may well get the push , leaving us with the job of finding yet another manager . Just like when !att Busby left in the seventies . Such a shame for a great club to have so much of their dirty washing being aired in public this . "
No no no, look at the tactics, he has them play deep and conservative. Jose has wet dreams about 1-0 wins. He doesn't care about scoring any more than the absolute minimum number of goals to score. It isn't the players fault, pogba at the world cup was a different player. Lukaku at Everton was more of a threat. Nobody wants to play his boring, conservative style of football. He should go manage a team trying to avoid relegation, that's where his tactics belong. |
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"Personally in don’t think its Pogba that is the problem, even when so called pundits claim he has been playing shite I think he has played quite well and as he has recently proven in the WC he can be immense.
The problem is Mourinho, he brings so much negativity to the club, other key players are demoralised and performances clearly show that.
He has lost the changing room and it’s time he leaves sooner than later - I have friends who support other rivals and are praying he doesn’t get the sack!
That shows where the problem lies. "
Exactly, Radford had one bad game and at the press release Jose announced 'this is why he doesn't start'. What a prick. |
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Jose needs a team to totally believe in his philosophy or it doesn’t work. If you look back through time at all of his clubs, every time a team has totally bought into him he has worked wonders. When they don’t or stop then it doesn’t work. Pogba’s attitude stinks and they should sell him at the first opportunty. One of Ferguson’s strengths was that he was bigger than the club, united now have the opportunity to prove that Jose is in charge and they need to back him. Chelsea should have done the same when they had the chance. |
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"So I’ve supported United since I was six , and the current spat between Mourinho and Pogba is clearly affecting the team in a very negative way . So , who should leave ?
I honestly think Pogba as he clearly thinks he’s bigger than the club , and his form is so erratic .
Are you kidding? Half the team hate Jose and the other half dislike him strongly. It's obvious why. Everytime they lose, he throws his players under the bus. His giant ego won't allow him to see that it's his shitty tactics that cost them games, but first he blames the ref, then his players, then the weather, then the pitch, then the ballboy, Brexit and the value of the pound before he takes responsibility.
As I said , wth the team he puts out it seems staggering that we can’t score more goals . It’s hardly a defensive line up , ever .
So the players dislike him , because he blames them . Why shouldn’t he ? It’s their fault . Especially Pogba who only plays well when he wants to . I’ve never agreed with the principle of letting the workers have all the power . A boss is a boss for a reason , and if the team aren’t behind him , I actually think it would be better to shot of them rather than the boss . But that’s way too expensive , so the boss always gets the bullet .
In this case , as Mourinho has a history , I think he may well get the push , leaving us with the job of finding yet another manager . Just like when !att Busby left in the seventies . Such a shame for a great club to have so much of their dirty washing being aired in public this .
No no no, look at the tactics, he has them play deep and conservative. Jose has wet dreams about 1-0 wins. He doesn't care about scoring any more than the absolute minimum number of goals to score. It isn't the players fault, pogba at the world cup was a different player. Lukaku at Everton was more of a threat. Nobody wants to play his boring, conservative style of football. He should go manage a team trying to avoid relegation, that's where his tactics belong. "
Have u forgotten moyes and van gaal? Ridiculous comments |
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I am a city fan but with Josés tactics you have to be winning or it's a disaster. I would take one nil wins every week if it ment winning the European cup. Or the league every season |
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"So I’ve supported United since I was six , and the current spat between Mourinho and Pogba is clearly affecting the team in a very negative way . So , who should leave ?
I honestly think Pogba as he clearly thinks he’s bigger than the club , and his form is so erratic .
Are you kidding? Half the team hate Jose and the other half dislike him strongly. It's obvious why. Everytime they lose, he throws his players under the bus. His giant ego won't allow him to see that it's his shitty tactics that cost them games, but first he blames the ref, then his players, then the weather, then the pitch, then the ballboy, Brexit and the value of the pound before he takes responsibility.
As I said , wth the team he puts out it seems staggering that we can’t score more goals . It’s hardly a defensive line up , ever .
So the players dislike him , because he blames them . Why shouldn’t he ? It’s their fault . Especially Pogba who only plays well when he wants to . I’ve never agreed with the principle of letting the workers have all the power . A boss is a boss for a reason , and if the team aren’t behind him , I actually think it would be better to shot of them rather than the boss . But that’s way too expensive , so the boss always gets the bullet .
In this case , as Mourinho has a history , I think he may well get the push , leaving us with the job of finding yet another manager . Just like when !att Busby left in the seventies . Such a shame for a great club to have so much of their dirty washing being aired in public this .
No no no, look at the tactics, he has them play deep and conservative. Jose has wet dreams about 1-0 wins. He doesn't care about scoring any more than the absolute minimum number of goals to score. It isn't the players fault, pogba at the world cup was a different player. Lukaku at Everton was more of a threat. Nobody wants to play his boring, conservative style of football. He should go manage a team trying to avoid relegation, that's where his tactics belong.
Have u forgotten moyes and van gaal? Ridiculous comments "
You mean people that got fired as well? Liverpool have much less money than United but they have a manager who can actually get the best out of their players and they are better than United now |
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Born and bred in Manchester, seen pics of myself as a baby crawling bare arsed on a big flag nicked off the poll outside Old Trafford in the mid 60’s.
I don’t spend much time supporting them anymore, not since they sold out to those yanks. I prefer to watch my fav L1 club instead.
For United, I would get rid of both and try to get Giggs in to manage the team. |
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"So I’ve supported United since I was six , and the current spat between Mourinho and Pogba is clearly affecting the team in a very negative way . So , who should leave ?
I honestly think Pogba as he clearly thinks he’s bigger than the club , and his form is so erratic .
Are you kidding? Half the team hate Jose and the other half dislike him strongly. It's obvious why. Everytime they lose, he throws his players under the bus. His giant ego won't allow him to see that it's his shitty tactics that cost them games, but first he blames the ref, then his players, then the weather, then the pitch, then the ballboy, Brexit and the value of the pound before he takes responsibility.
As I said , wth the team he puts out it seems staggering that we can’t score more goals . It’s hardly a defensive line up , ever .
So the players dislike him , because he blames them . Why shouldn’t he ? It’s their fault . Especially Pogba who only plays well when he wants to . I’ve never agreed with the principle of letting the workers have all the power . A boss is a boss for a reason , and if the team aren’t behind him , I actually think it would be better to shot of them rather than the boss . But that’s way too expensive , so the boss always gets the bullet .
In this case , as Mourinho has a history , I think he may well get the push , leaving us with the job of finding yet another manager . Just like when !att Busby left in the seventies . Such a shame for a great club to have so much of their dirty washing being aired in public this .
No no no, look at the tactics, he has them play deep and conservative. Jose has wet dreams about 1-0 wins. He doesn't care about scoring any more than the absolute minimum number of goals to score. It isn't the players fault, pogba at the world cup was a different player. Lukaku at Everton was more of a threat. Nobody wants to play his boring, conservative style of football. He should go manage a team trying to avoid relegation, that's where his tactics belong.
Have u forgotten moyes and van gaal? Ridiculous comments
You mean people that got fired as well? Liverpool have much less money than United but they have a manager who can actually get the best out of their players and they are better than United now "
And what have they won? Out of interest? Last I heard it wasn’t a lot and they’ve been pretty average for 30 years. They look ok at the mo but no one remembers second. Jose is a winner |
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I honestly think Pogba as he clearly thinks he’s bigger than the club , and his form is so erratic .
Are you kidding? Half the team hate Jose and the other half dislike him strongly. It's obvious why. Everytime they lose, he throws his players under the bus. His giant ego won't allow him to see that it's his shitty tactics that cost them games, but first he blames the ref, then his players, then the weather, then the pitch, then the ballboy, Brexit and the value of the pound before he takes responsibility.
As I said , wth the team he puts out it seems staggering that we can’t score more goals . It’s hardly a defensive line up , ever .
So the players dislike him , because he blames them . Why shouldn’t he ? It’s their fault . Especially Pogba who only plays well when he wants to . I’ve never agreed with the principle of letting the workers have all the power . A boss is a boss for a reason , and if the team aren’t behind him , I actually think it would be better to shot of them rather than the boss . But that’s way too expensive , so the boss always gets the bullet .
In this case , as Mourinho has a history , I think he may well get the push , leaving us with the job of finding yet another manager . Just like when !att Busby left in the seventies . Such a shame for a great club to have so much of their dirty washing being aired in public this .
No no no, look at the tactics, he has them play deep and conservative. Jose has wet dreams about 1-0 wins. He doesn't care about scoring any more than the absolute minimum number of goals to score. It isn't the players fault, pogba at the world cup was a different player. Lukaku at Everton was more of a threat. Nobody wants to play his boring, conservative style of football. He should go manage a team trying to avoid relegation, that's where his tactics belong.
Have u forgotten moyes and van gaal? Ridiculous comments
You mean people that got fired as well? Liverpool have much less money than United but they have a manager who can actually get the best out of their players and they are better than United now
And what have they won? Out of interest? Last I heard it wasn’t a lot and they’ve been pretty average for 30 years. They look ok at the mo but no one remembers second. Jose is a winner"
They would have won the Champions League if it wasn't for cheating cunts injuring the best player and they did it with a fraction of Joses funds because they score goals |
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"So I’ve supported United since I was six , and the current spat between Mourinho and Pogba is clearly affecting the team in a very negative way . So , who should leave ?
I honestly think Pogba as he clearly thinks he’s bigger than the club , and his form is so erratic .
Following a team from 200 miles away which you have no connection with via the tv isn't "supporting" a football club, by the way."
Can I say I live 200 miles away and I am a season ticket holder. I go home and away. What am I |
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"I have seen this question asked 100 times on social media; Facebook, Twitter, WhatsApp
Personally both are to blame
Pogba is over paid lazy French twat that thinks he is gods gift to footballing world. Jose has lost the dressing room, because some players are taking the piss!!!!
For the sake of the club they both need to sort it out or leave end off
Probably the best answer so far "
It is well know I am a season ticket holder that goes home and away. Both are acting like spoilt kids when there games console has been taken off them
Grown up sort it out and the club and fans are the most important |
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The longer they both stay at United the better as far as I'm concerned. (I'm a Liverpool fan) Because at the moment they are shocking, and it makes my weekend when they lose or draw which is more often than they win nowadays.
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"So I’ve supported United since I was six , and the current spat between Mourinho and Pogba is clearly affecting the team in a very negative way . So , who should leave ?
I honestly think Pogba as he clearly thinks he’s bigger than the club , and his form is so erratic .
Following a team from 200 miles away which you have no connection with via the tv isn't "supporting" a football club, by the way.
Can I say I live 200 miles away and I am a season ticket holder. I go home and away. What am I "
Depressed on the return trip? |
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over a year ago
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"So I’ve supported United since I was six , and the current spat between Mourinho and Pogba is clearly affecting the team in a very negative way . So , who should leave ?
I honestly think Pogba as he clearly thinks he’s bigger than the club , and his form is so erratic .
Following a team from 200 miles away which you have no connection with via the tv isn't "supporting" a football club, by the way.
Can I say I live 200 miles away and I am a season ticket holder. I go home and away. What am I
Depressed on the return trip? "
Nope as usual stay over and go to a swinging club |
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"Should have won the champions league? Are u for real? They got comprehensively beat by a better team. Do u watch much football? "
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"So I’ve supported United since I was six , and the current spat between Mourinho and Pogba is clearly affecting the team in a very negative way . So , who should leave ?
I honestly think Pogba as he clearly thinks he’s bigger than the club , and his form is so erratic .
Following a team from 200 miles away which you have no connection with via the tv isn't "supporting" a football club, by the way.
Can I say I live 200 miles away and I am a season ticket holder. I go home and away. What am I
Depressed on the return trip?
Nope as usual stay over and go to a swinging club "
That's less embarassing than admitting you're visiting the city to watch Man Utd |
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"Should have won the champions league? Are u for real? They got comprehensively beat by a better team. Do u watch much football?
Yeah i must have imagined the best player in the world going off on a stretcher in the first half "
He got injured, it happens, and he isn’t anywhere near the best player in the world. That game wasn’t affected that much by that. Either way it’s irrelevant, I don’t support man united, but u Liverpool ‘fans’ should stop trolling people and come back when you’ve won something. Peace out |
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"I hope they both stay
If they got along , then so would I .
But they really don’t and it’s getting worse by the day .....
That’s why I hope they stay "
One game for the history books hey dock up the rams.. lee grant in goal It does not get better than that thats one match I,m glad I did,nt miss on the radio a rare event does not come into it... |
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"The longer they both stay at United the better as far as I'm concerned. (I'm a Liverpool fan) Because at the moment they are shocking, and it makes my weekend when they lose or draw which is more often than they win nowadays.
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Spot on...exactly how I feel
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"Should have won the champions league? Are u for real? They got comprehensively beat by a better team. Do u watch much football?
Yeah i must have imagined the best player in the world going off on a stretcher in the first half
He got injured, it happens, and he isn’t anywhere near the best player in the world. That game wasn’t affected that much by that. Either way it’s irrelevant, I don’t support man united, but u Liverpool ‘fans’ should stop trolling people and come back when you’ve won something. Peace out "
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"Should have won the champions league? Are u for real? They got comprehensively beat by a better team. Do u watch much football?
Yeah i must have imagined the best player in the world going off on a stretcher in the first half
He got injured, it happens, and he isn’t anywhere near the best player in the world. That game wasn’t affected that much by that. Either way it’s irrelevant, I don’t support man united, but u Liverpool ‘fans’ should stop trolling people and come back when you’ve won something. Peace out "
Definitely a chelski fan you can see it a mile off haha
Last season salah was the best player in the world...fifa awards are do fixed it's unbelievable. ..salah got puskas award for best goal when it was about his 5th best goal...he came 3rd was it in fifa player of year award butthen didn't make it in fifa best 11...they are frauds |
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Spot on...exactly how I feel
5 times "
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Best player in the world?!!! Wow. Just making yourself look silly now. He is a very good player and has improved lots, but couldn’t cut it at a big club when he had the chance. We will see if he has learnt from that when he gets a move to another big club |
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"So I’ve supported United since I was six , and the current spat between Mourinho and Pogba is clearly affecting the team in a very negative way . So , who should leave ?
I honestly think Pogba as he clearly thinks he’s bigger than the club , and his form is so erratic .
Following a team from 200 miles away which you have no connection with via the tv isn't "supporting" a football club, by the way.
Can I say I live 200 miles away and I am a season ticket holder. I go home and away. What am I "
Well, I would say your a bit like my mate and best man who also supports them..
But I won't.. |
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over a year ago
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"So I’ve supported United since I was six , and the current spat between Mourinho and Pogba is clearly affecting the team in a very negative way . So , who should leave ?
I honestly think Pogba as he clearly thinks he’s bigger than the club , and his form is so erratic .
Following a team from 200 miles away which you have no connection with via the tv isn't "supporting" a football club, by the way.
Can I say I live 200 miles away and I am a season ticket holder. I go home and away. What am I
Well, I would say your a bit like my mate and best man who also supports them..
But I won't.. "
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"Best player in the world?!!! Wow. Just making yourself look silly now. He is a very good player and has improved lots, but couldn’t cut it at a big club when he had the chance. We will see if he has learnt from that when he gets a move to another big club "
If your suggesting Chelsea are a big club then you have shown a lack of knowledge.. |
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"Should have won the champions league? Are u for real? They got comprehensively beat by a better team. Do u watch much football?
Yeah i must have imagined the best player in the world going off on a stretcher in the first half
He got injured, it happens, and he isn’t anywhere near the best player in the world. That game wasn’t affected that much by that. Either way it’s irrelevant, I don’t support man united, but u Liverpool ‘fans’ should stop trolling people and come back when you’ve won something. Peace out
He was assaulted."
This, it was a throw down and with intent.. That the ref did fuck all was out of order and it did change the game.. |
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"Best player in the world?!!! Wow. Just making yourself look silly now. He is a very good player and has improved lots, but couldn’t cut it at a big club when he had the chance. We will see if he has learnt from that when he gets a move to another big club
If your suggesting Chelsea are a big club then you have shown a lack of knowledge.. "
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"Best player in the world?!!! Wow. Just making yourself look silly now. He is a very good player and has improved lots, but couldn’t cut it at a big club when he had the chance. We will see if he has learnt from that when he gets a move to another big club
If your suggesting Chelsea are a big club then you have shown a lack of knowledge..
Explain? "
So your saying they are a big club?
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"Should have won the champions league? Are u for real? They got comprehensively beat by a better team. Do u watch much football?
Yeah i must have imagined the best player in the world going off on a stretcher in the first half
He got injured, it happens, and he isn’t anywhere near the best player in the world. That game wasn’t affected that much by that. Either way it’s irrelevant, I don’t support man united, but u Liverpool ‘fans’ should stop trolling people and come back when you’ve won something. Peace out
He was assaulted.
This, it was a throw down and with intent.. That the ref did fuck all was out of order and it did change the game.. "
Excuses, Madrid are a bigger, better, more experienced team. Yes they went in hard but that’s the game. Don’t buy girly players and complain when they get crunched. It’s a mans game and Sergio Ramos is one of the hardest and best centre halves in the world. It was men v boys. Liverpool played well to get there but never looked like winning the game, to suggest otherwise is ridiculous |
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Being a big club is hard to define. It’s a mixture of success, fan base, tradition and personnel in my opinion. My definition of a big club would be a team that win trophies regularly, that win their league, that represent their country in Europe regularly and have some of the worlds best players playing for them. I don’t think Liverpool have any of those traits in recent times and so are not a big club. They look better the last few months but no one remembers second place |
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"Should have won the champions league? Are u for real? They got comprehensively beat by a better team. Do u watch much football?
Yeah i must have imagined the best player in the world going off on a stretcher in the first half
He got injured, it happens, and he isn’t anywhere near the best player in the world. That game wasn’t affected that much by that. Either way it’s irrelevant, I don’t support man united, but u Liverpool ‘fans’ should stop trolling people and come back when you’ve won something. Peace out
He was assaulted.
This, it was a throw down and with intent.. That the ref did fuck all was out of order and it did change the game..
Excuses, Madrid are a bigger, better, more experienced team. Yes they went in hard but that’s the game. Don’t buy girly players and complain when they get crunched. It’s a mans game and Sergio Ramos is one of the hardest and best centre halves in the world. It was men v boys. Liverpool played well to get there but never looked like winning the game, to suggest otherwise is ridiculous "
Till that point the game was a lot more evenly matched, the stats show that was a turning point..
Not saying that we would have won with Salah on the whole game but that tackle and it had more to do with wrestling than footie definitely affected the match..
One of those talking points where we will never agree.. |
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"Being a big club is hard to define. It’s a mixture of success, fan base, tradition and personnel in my opinion. My definition of a big club would be a team that win trophies regularly, that win their league, that represent their country in Europe regularly and have some of the worlds best players playing for them. I don’t think Liverpool have any of those traits in recent times and so are not a big club. They look better the last few months but no one remembers second place "
Using your own definition it's right to say that post abramovic it's a blip from the mediocre, things change.. |
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"Should have won the champions league? Are u for real? They got comprehensively beat by a better team. Do u watch much football?
Yeah i must have imagined the best player in the world going off on a stretcher in the first half
He got injured, it happens, and he isn’t anywhere near the best player in the world. That game wasn’t affected that much by that. Either way it’s irrelevant, I don’t support man united, but u Liverpool ‘fans’ should stop trolling people and come back when you’ve won something. Peace out
He was assaulted.
This, it was a throw down and with intent.. That the ref did fuck all was out of order and it did change the game..
Excuses, Madrid are a bigger, better, more experienced team. Yes they went in hard but that’s the game. Don’t buy girly players and complain when they get crunched. It’s a mans game and Sergio Ramos is one of the hardest and best centre halves in the world. It was men v boys. Liverpool played well to get there but never looked like winning the game, to suggest otherwise is ridiculous "
Ha ha, don't buy girly players. Does Luke Shaw even remember what colour the pitch is at old Trafford? In my day, vinnie Jones played with two broken legs and a gun shot wound, that was in the league Cup. |
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"Being a big club is hard to define. It’s a mixture of success, fan base, tradition and personnel in my opinion. My definition of a big club would be a team that win trophies regularly, that win their league, that represent their country in Europe regularly and have some of the worlds best players playing for them. I don’t think Liverpool have any of those traits in recent times and so are not a big club. They look better the last few months but no one remembers second place
Using your own definition it's right to say that post abramovic it's a blip from the mediocre, things change.. "
That’s the problem with history, it’s all in the past. There’s a great game on now, u should check it out |
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"Being a big club is hard to define. It’s a mixture of success, fan base, tradition and personnel in my opinion. My definition of a big club would be a team that win trophies regularly, that win their league, that represent their country in Europe regularly and have some of the worlds best players playing for them. I don’t think Liverpool have any of those traits in recent times and so are not a big club. They look better the last few months but no one remembers second place
Using your own definition it's right to say that post abramovic it's a blip from the mediocre, things change..
That’s the problem with history, it’s all in the past. There’s a great game on now, u should check it out "
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over a year ago
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"So I’ve supported United since I was six , and the current spat between Mourinho and Pogba is clearly affecting the team in a very negative way . So , who should leave ?
I honestly think Pogba as he clearly thinks he’s bigger than the club , and his form is so erratic . "
Probably both Pogba not bigger than your club and Jose not getting any closer to winning league |
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Following a big club is not being a proper football fan. Most people who follow big clubs are just mercenaries who just latch onto any given big club for whatever fickle reason.
Following somebody shit home and away; when you've done that you can call yourself a proper football supporter. |
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Mourinho doesn’t adapt the style of football, he thinks one blueprint fits all, he’s far to negative.
Untied need an attacking manager who will bring out the best in pogba and the other attacking talent at old Trafford. |
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"Following a big club is not being a proper football fan. Most people who follow big clubs are just mercenaries who just latch onto any given big club for whatever fickle reason.
Following somebody shit home and away; when you've done that you can call yourself a proper football supporter."
U can be a proper football supporter no matter who you support. Following a shit team is far easier and cheaper than following a top team. Each have their place, but u don’t get to choose either way, so anyone who spends their hard earned following a team over land and sea deserves respect, from united to Yeovil |
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"The longer they both stay at United the better as far as I'm concerned. (I'm a Liverpool fan) Because at the moment they are shocking, and it makes my weekend when they lose or draw which is more often than they win nowadays.
Spot on...exactly how I feel
5 times probably would of won it more but because the fans could not behave themselves they got themselves and the rest of English clubs banned form europe "
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"Best player in the world?!!! Wow. Just making yourself look silly now. He is a very good player and has improved lots, but couldn’t cut it at a big club when he had the chance. We will see if he has learnt from that when he gets a move to another big club "
I don't know if your replying my message or not but unofficially LAST season he was the best player in the world no doubt about it unless the bitterness and biased affected your way of thinking |
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"Best player in the world?!!! Wow. Just making yourself look silly now. He is a very good player and has improved lots, but couldn’t cut it at a big club when he had the chance. We will see if he has learnt from that when he gets a move to another big club
I don't know if your replying my message or not but unofficially LAST season he was the best player in the world no doubt about it unless the bitterness and biased affected your way of thinking "
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Spot on...exactly how I feel
5 times probably would of won it more but because the fans could not behave themselves they got themselves and the rest of English clubs banned form europe
Don't worry yourself pal it didn't affect hartlepool utd "
No but it affected the fans of our other clubs that wanted to play in Europe and that’s probably why us as a nation where miles behind when we where eventually allowed back in |
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Because I have eyes...he scored 44 goals....go on who was better?
You also say it wouldn't of mattered if salah would of stayed on, well if you know anything about footy salah going off changed lfcs game plan and Madrid game plan....our too goalscorer and fastest was going off which meant our game plan was out of the window with our fast counter attacking play....it also meant Madrid could push 20 yards further up the pitch and squeeze the game
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Untied need an attacking manager who will bring out the best in pogba and the other attacking talent at old Trafford."
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I honestly think Pogba as he clearly thinks he’s bigger than the club , and his form is so erratic .
Following a team from 200 miles away which you have no connection with via the tv isn't "supporting" a football club, by the way."
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"Because I have eyes...he scored 44 goals....go on who was better?
You also say it wouldn't of mattered if salah would of stayed on, well if you know anything about footy salah going off changed lfcs game plan and Madrid game plan....our too goalscorer and fastest was going off which meant our game plan was out of the window with our fast counter attacking play....it also meant Madrid could push 20 yards further up the pitch and squeeze the game
Your welcome "
He was good last year but not the best, he didn’t even win anything so to compare him with Ronaldo or modric is ridiculous. Liverpool would have lost anyway, they got what the deserved in the end. Good luck this year! |
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"The longer they both stay at United the better as far as I'm concerned. (I'm a Liverpool fan) Because at the moment they are shocking, and it makes my weekend when they lose or draw which is more often than they win nowadays.
Spot on...exactly how I feel
5 times probably would of won it more but because the fans could not behave themselves they got themselves and the rest of English clubs banned form europe
Don't worry yourself pal it didn't affect hartlepool utd No but it affected the fans of our other clubs that wanted to play in Europe and that’s probably why us as a nation where miles behind when we where eventually allowed back in "
Your.bringing the nation into it lol ...when will the deluded and extremely patriotic England fans realise that England aren't entitled to be a world class team, they will never be world class....look at Brazil the world's most successful national team they don't invest nowhere near the amount of money into football like the fa do yet look at there record. ..most of there players are from the slums.and played bare foot on gravel pitches, so blaming it on lfc fans I've heard it all now it is down to natural ability and genes which England don't have
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"Because I have eyes...he scored 44 goals....go on who was better?
You also say it wouldn't of mattered if salah would of stayed on, well if you know anything about footy salah going off changed lfcs game plan and Madrid game plan....our too goalscorer and fastest was going off which meant our game plan was out of the window with our fast counter attacking play....it also meant Madrid could push 20 yards further up the pitch and squeeze the game
Your welcome
He was good last year but not the best, he didn’t even win anything so to compare him with Ronaldo or modric is ridiculous. Liverpool would have lost anyway, they got what the deserved in the end. Good luck this year! "
It doesn't matter what he won we are on about the players achievements aren't we??
Lfc would of lost anyway?? Can I use your crystal ball please mystic meg
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Spot on...exactly how I feel
5 times probably would of won it more but because the fans could not behave themselves they got themselves and the rest of English clubs banned form europe
Don't worry yourself pal it didn't affect hartlepool utd No but it affected the fans of our other clubs that wanted to play in Europe and that’s probably why us as a nation where miles behind when we where eventually allowed back in
Your.bringing the nation into it lol ...when will the deluded and extremely patriotic England fans realise that England aren't entitled to be a world class team, they will never be world class....look at Brazil the world's most successful national team they don't invest nowhere near the amount of money into football like the fa do yet look at there record. ..most of there players are from the slums.and played bare foot on gravel pitches, so blaming it on lfc fans I've heard it all now it is down to natural ability and genes which England don't have
Your welcome as well "
just my opinion I don’t think it helped us being banned from Europe in our development in the game both at club and international level |
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By *ot-AshMan
over a year ago
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Its clearly due to Mourinho's tactics
as to why Man Utd are so poor at the
moment as they should be doing much
better than they are with the players
they have not drawing at home with Wolves or losing to Derby in cup but
i hope they have another stinker
on Saturday and West Ham will never
have a better time to play against them
will be interesting to see if Pogba
is selected.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Mourinho doesn’t adapt the style of football, he thinks one blueprint fits all, he’s far to negative.
Untied need an attacking manager who will bring out the best in pogba and the other attacking talent at old Trafford."
Arsene Wenger is available. |
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By *ikeC81Man
over a year ago
harrow |
"Following a big club is not being a proper football fan. Most people who follow big clubs are just mercenaries who just latch onto any given big club for whatever fickle reason.
Following somebody shit home and away; when you've done that you can call yourself a proper football supporter."
I take a huge offence to that!!!!
I appreciate everyone has their own views of supporters of big clubs. I travel home and away with united as well with England
I have friends that support teams in the premiership right down to non-league. Does it matter who we support; there is always a mutual respect (more or less)
I travel over 6 hours to and back from each home game with united. Why because I love the club. I have evry home, away and third shirt since 96. Why because I love the club.
As a supporter of a big club we are treat like shit. We are just a number to the club they really don’t give a fuck. I can tell you numerous stories about how fans are treat badly.
If you look at league one and championship there were teams that were ‘big’ once, but now enjoying the lower leagues
I won’t deny we do a subset of fans that are glory fans but to a a majority is a bit near the mark
Anyway I am off to be a mercenary and book my train tickets for old Trafford |
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By *wo4FemCouple
over a year ago
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"So I’ve supported United since I was six , and the current spat between Mourinho and Pogba is clearly affecting the team in a very negative way . So , who should leave ?
I honestly think Pogba as he clearly thinks he’s bigger than the club , and his form is so erratic . "
They should both go.
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"So I’ve supported United since I was six , and the current spat between Mourinho and Pogba is clearly affecting the team in a very negative way . So , who should leave ?
I honestly think Pogba as he clearly thinks he’s bigger than the club , and his form is so erratic . "
I think it's Woodward isn't it? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Winning s trophy is an achievement isn’t it? Or is it all about one player scoring goals and looking good in a mediocre team?
Ps that’s not bitterness u can smell my friend |
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"Mourinho doesn’t adapt the style of football, he thinks one blueprint fits all, he’s far to negative.
Untied need an attacking manager who will bring out the best in pogba and the other attacking talent at old Trafford.
Arsene Wenger is available."
Proper fan. That's a huge sacrifice you give to your club.
If it wasn't for fans it would all fall apart and 'away' fans deserve the upmost respect .
I suppose 6 hours for a home game is equal to an away game. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Welbeck 221 minutes 4 goals.
Sanchez 333 minutes 0 goals.
It’s not hard to see who needs to go the manager is a negative influence.
These players just don’t go stale for a reason.
Up the Arsenal "
The game is about scoring more goals than the opposition, not just scoring goals (something arsenal would have done well to consider over the years). Jose changes the way players play, some adapt and some don’t. United knew what they were getting when they signed him and they went for it, it’s no good moaning now, they need to back him.
There are not many managers in the world that always play attacking football and consistently win (I can only think of one) even fergie used to shut up shop away at certain grounds. Be careful what u wish for as the alternatives were tried first and they didn’t pan out too well. |
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"So I’ve supported United since I was six , and the current spat between Mourinho and Pogba is clearly affecting the team in a very negative way . So , who should leave ?
I honestly think Pogba as he clearly thinks he’s bigger than the club , and his form is so erratic . "
Pogba without a doubt. And I detest moanrinhio |
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"So I’ve supported United since I was six , and the current spat between Mourinho and Pogba is clearly affecting the team in a very negative way . So , who should leave ?
I honestly think Pogba as he clearly thinks he’s bigger than the club , and his form is so erratic .
Pogba without a doubt. And I detest moanrinhio"
I’m beginning to struggle with Mourinho too , even though I think Pogba is way out of order . I would be much happier to see Pogba go as it would send a warning out to others who think they are bigger than the club . I thought the same when Best did the same in the early 70s and I was just a kid then . It was somewhat worrying to see the players getting managers sacked , and it seems like this is happening now .
What I fail to understand is how top players like Sanchez can be so bad under Mourinho , and this is why I think that possibly both should go . |
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There are a team of coaches under Jose who do the bulk of the work so I don't think the blame lands solely at the managers feet but he is responsible, at the of the chain.
When teams succeed the players get the credit, when they fail it's the managers fault, not the players. |
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