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"Maybe people who kill, r@pe, maim, rob and recklessly endanger each other are more of a police priority up that way?" There's quite a lot of overlap. Fucked up people tend to target animals first and then humans when they no longer get the buzz off animals. | |||
"Maybe people who kill, r@pe, maim, rob and recklessly endanger each other are more of a police priority up that way?" Yeah but usually people that torture and kill animals go on to do things to people. Most psychotic murderers would have killed a few animals first to start off. | |||
"Maybe people who kill, r@pe, maim, rob and recklessly endanger each other are more of a police priority up that way? There's quite a lot of overlap. Fucked up people tend to target animals first and then humans when they no longer get the buzz off animals. " No they wet the bed, light fires and hurt animals. Cowards who ain’t got the bottle hurt animals. | |||
"Maybe people who kill, r@pe, maim, rob and recklessly endanger each other are more of a police priority up that way? There's quite a lot of overlap. Fucked up people tend to target animals first and then humans when they no longer get the buzz off animals. " Yup. The evidence conflicts I understand.  | |||
"Anyone else believe it was down to road accidents and foxes or definitely some human involvement?" Yes, I'm willing to believe this. Are there any actual evidenced examples of cat deaths that contradict it? | |||
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"Maybe people who kill, r@pe, maim, rob and recklessly endanger each other are more of a police priority up that way?" Maybe they started off killing cats... | |||
"Anyone else believe it was down to road accidents and foxes or definitely some human involvement? Yes, I'm willing to believe this. Are there any actual evidenced examples of cat deaths that contradict it? " Many apparently. | |||
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"Anyone else believe it was down to road accidents and foxes or definitely some human involvement? Yes, I'm willing to believe this. Are there any actual evidenced examples of cat deaths that contradict it? Many apparently. " Such as? | |||
"Maybe people who kill, r@pe, maim, rob and recklessly endanger each other are more of a police priority up that way? There's quite a lot of overlap. Fucked up people tend to target animals first and then humans when they no longer get the buzz off animals. Yup. The evidence conflicts I understand. "There's a documentary series about the met police and they had a cat mutilator case. They got a psychology expert in to advise and they said that it was definitely a case of repressed sexual urges (of the violent nature) and they were getting off on doing this to cats. But eventually cats wouldn't get them off and they would act out the full urges. I'm not saying every case is that, but it can escalate. | |||
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"Maybe people who kill, r@pe, maim, rob and recklessly endanger each other are more of a police priority up that way? Maybe they started off killing cats..." Accepted triangle is fires, bed wetting cruelty to animals | |||
"Anyone else believe it was down to road accidents and foxes or definitely some human involvement? Yes, I'm willing to believe this. Are there any actual evidenced examples of cat deaths that contradict it? Many apparently. Such as? " Why don't you read about it and find out for yourself? | |||
"Maybe people who kill, r@pe, maim, rob and recklessly endanger each other are more of a police priority up that way? Maybe they started off killing cats... Accepted triangle is fires, bed wetting cruelty to animals " But we all wet the bed once in a while  | |||
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"Maybe people who kill, r@pe, maim, rob and recklessly endanger each other are more of a police priority up that way? Maybe they started off killing cats... Accepted triangle is fires, bed wetting cruelty to animals But we all wet the bed once in a while "Yeah but not with a can of petrol in one hand and a dead swan in the other  | |||
"Anyone else believe it was down to road accidents and foxes or definitely some human involvement? Yes, I'm willing to believe this. Are there any actual evidenced examples of cat deaths that contradict it? Many apparently. Such as? Why don't you read about it and find out for yourself?" I have, and I haven't seen any definite examples that suggest the latest conclusion is wrong. That's why I asked. | |||
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"So today after a 3 year investigation and over 1000 mutiliated cat deaths the police have decided its case closed and that there was no human involvement. They said it is most likely due to car accidents and foxes scavenging the bodys. Now i dont know about anyone else and i know foxes are smart but i dont believe for a second that a fox is able to carry back the cats dead bodys to their owners house and leave then there headless to be found by its owner. Which was the case in many of these incidents. I suspect its more likely that the police are just too underfunded and had to wipe their hands clean of this investigation and just give a BS conclusion to it. Anyone else believe it was down to road accidents and foxes or definitely some human involvement?" Apparently these super clever foxes will kill with blunt force trauma, remove body parts by making clean cuts with a blade, pose the body in a way which will cause maximum distress and will often be found by children. They will then return the missing body parts several days later and pose them in the exact same place as the body was found. It’s not just cats though. In some cases these genius foxes have even unlocked rabbit cages before killing and dismembering the rabbit as described above, then posed the body in the cage and relocked it before returning some weeks later and putting body parts in the empty cage. Isn’t it remarkable how clever these foxes have become! | |||
"Maybe people who kill, r@pe, maim, rob and recklessly endanger each other are more of a police priority up that way? Maybe they started off killing cats... Accepted triangle is fires, bed wetting cruelty to animals But we all wet the bed once in a while
Yeah but not with a can of petrol in one hand and a dead swan in the other "Dr Phil did a talk on what happens to the brains of babies if they don't get enough love in the early years, it's scary. Those babies grow up to be adults who can cut up a cat and not feel an ounce of remorse. | |||
"Maybe people who kill, r@pe, maim, rob and recklessly endanger each other are more of a police priority up that way? Maybe they started off killing cats... Accepted triangle is fires, bed wetting cruelty to animals But we all wet the bed once in a while
Yeah but not with a can of petrol in one hand and a dead swan in the other
Dr Phil did a talk on what happens to the brains of babies if they don't get enough love in the early years, it's scary. Those babies grow up to be adults who can cut up a cat and not feel an ounce of remorse. "PM me I’ll whisper in your ear something terrible but beautiful  | |||
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"Anyone else believe it was down to road accidents and foxes or definitely some human involvement? Yes, I'm willing to believe this. Are there any actual evidenced examples of cat deaths that contradict it? " How about this one? http://www.whtimes.co.uk/news/potters-bar-woman-speaks-out-following-croydon-cat-killer-conclu-1-5704427 Why would police tell her not to reveal trademark details if it were not human hands responsible? | |||
"Anyone else believe it was down to road accidents and foxes or definitely some human involvement? Yes, I'm willing to believe this. Are there any actual evidenced examples of cat deaths that contradict it? How about this one? http://www.whtimes.co.uk/news/potters-bar-woman-speaks-out-following-croydon-cat-killer-conclu-1-5704427 Why would police tell her not to reveal trademark details if it were not human hands responsible?" I mean...that's one person speculating, it's not evidence. I'm sure there are loads of odd cat deaths, but how about something that shows a person was definitely involved? | |||
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"Anyone else believe it was down to road accidents and foxes or definitely some human involvement? Yes, I'm willing to believe this. Are there any actual evidenced examples of cat deaths that contradict it? How about this one? http://www.whtimes.co.uk/news/potters-bar-woman-speaks-out-following-croydon-cat-killer-conclu-1-5704427 Why would police tell her not to reveal trademark details if it were not human hands responsible? I mean...that's one person speculating, it's not evidence. I'm sure there are loads of odd cat deaths, but how about something that shows a person was definitely involved? " How about something that shows a person definitely wasn’t? Again I reiterate, they must be bloody smart foxes to do what has been done to these poor cats and rabbits. Better hope they don’t decide to overthrow humans or we’d be buggered! | |||
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"Anyone else believe it was down to road accidents and foxes or definitely some human involvement? Yes, I'm willing to believe this. Are there any actual evidenced examples of cat deaths that contradict it? How about this one? http://www.whtimes.co.uk/news/potters-bar-woman-speaks-out-following-croydon-cat-killer-conclu-1-5704427 Why would police tell her not to reveal trademark details if it were not human hands responsible? I mean...that's one person speculating, it's not evidence. I'm sure there are loads of odd cat deaths, but how about something that shows a person was definitely involved? How about something that shows a person definitely wasn’t? Again I reiterate, they must be bloody smart foxes to do what has been done to these poor cats and rabbits. Better hope they don’t decide to overthrow humans or we’d be buggered!" The suggestion is that foxes are scavenging cats that have been badly injured or killed by cars, so your reiteration is kinda pointless. | |||
"Anyone else believe it was down to road accidents and foxes or definitely some human involvement? Yes, I'm willing to believe this. Are there any actual evidenced examples of cat deaths that contradict it? How about this one? http://www.whtimes.co.uk/news/potters-bar-woman-speaks-out-following-croydon-cat-killer-conclu-1-5704427 Why would police tell her not to reveal trademark details if it were not human hands responsible? I mean...that's one person speculating, it's not evidence. I'm sure there are loads of odd cat deaths, but how about something that shows a person was definitely involved? " Here is an extract from today’s SNARL statement which gives details of some of the cases. In Sussex, there was a case where a rabbit was killed and his body displayed in the same manner as the cats and rabbits and foxes we have attended in other areas. His injuries were a match to these other victims. His liver was placed at the bottom of the garden on a raised stone next to the shed, with a trail of fur leading to it. The next night, the owner’s locked catflap was kicked in and the victim’s collar placed on the stone his liver had been. That’s not foxes. In West Wickham, a cat’s collar was returned five months after the cat was killed. That’s not foxes. In Watford, a rabbit was killed and six months later, his head was returned to his garden and found by his owner. It was pristine and looked like it had just happened. This wasn’t reported to Police as she was disgusted by their response when reporting the incident. That’s not foxes. No evidence of human involvement? Yeah right! | |||
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"Anyone else believe it was down to road accidents and foxes or definitely some human involvement? Yes, I'm willing to believe this. Are there any actual evidenced examples of cat deaths that contradict it? How about this one? http://www.whtimes.co.uk/news/potters-bar-woman-speaks-out-following-croydon-cat-killer-conclu-1-5704427 Why would police tell her not to reveal trademark details if it were not human hands responsible? I mean...that's one person speculating, it's not evidence. I'm sure there are loads of odd cat deaths, but how about something that shows a person was definitely involved? How about something that shows a person definitely wasn’t? Again I reiterate, they must be bloody smart foxes to do what has been done to these poor cats and rabbits. Better hope they don’t decide to overthrow humans or we’d be buggered! The suggestion is that foxes are scavenging cats that have been badly injured or killed by cars, so your reiteration is kinda pointless. " It's not just cats that have been targeted, pet rabbit have too. Rabbits have been removed from their hutch, decapitated and placed back inside in a posed position then the hutch securely closed again. Is a fox physically capable of doing that? No doubt in some cases foxes have scavenged ill or injured cats but not in all of the cases reported. | |||
"Anyone else believe it was down to road accidents and foxes or definitely some human involvement? Yes, I'm willing to believe this. Are there any actual evidenced examples of cat deaths that contradict it? How about this one? http://www.whtimes.co.uk/news/potters-bar-woman-speaks-out-following-croydon-cat-killer-conclu-1-5704427 Why would police tell her not to reveal trademark details if it were not human hands responsible? I mean...that's one person speculating, it's not evidence. I'm sure there are loads of odd cat deaths, but how about something that shows a person was definitely involved? How about something that shows a person definitely wasn’t? Again I reiterate, they must be bloody smart foxes to do what has been done to these poor cats and rabbits. Better hope they don’t decide to overthrow humans or we’d be buggered! The suggestion is that foxes are scavenging cats that have been badly injured or killed by cars, so your reiteration is kinda pointless. " Show me a fox who will kill, place the liver (organs are the prized part of a kill for carnivores as they are so nutritious) inside the cat flap and then return the next day and break down the locked cat flap and put the cat collar in the exact same place he left the liver. | |||
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"Anyone else believe it was down to road accidents and foxes or definitely some human involvement? Yes, I'm willing to believe this. Are there any actual evidenced examples of cat deaths that contradict it? How about this one? http://www.whtimes.co.uk/news/potters-bar-woman-speaks-out-following-croydon-cat-killer-conclu-1-5704427 Why would police tell her not to reveal trademark details if it were not human hands responsible? I mean...that's one person speculating, it's not evidence. I'm sure there are loads of odd cat deaths, but how about something that shows a person was definitely involved? Here is an extract from today’s SNARL statement which gives details of some of the cases. In Sussex, there was a case where a rabbit was killed and his body displayed in the same manner as the cats and rabbits and foxes we have attended in other areas. His injuries were a match to these other victims. His liver was placed at the bottom of the garden on a raised stone next to the shed, with a trail of fur leading to it. The next night, the owner’s locked catflap was kicked in and the victim’s collar placed on the stone his liver had been. That’s not foxes. In West Wickham, a cat’s collar was returned five months after the cat was killed. That’s not foxes. In Watford, a rabbit was killed and six months later, his head was returned to his garden and found by his owner. It was pristine and looked like it had just happened. This wasn’t reported to Police as she was disgusted by their response when reporting the incident. That’s not foxes. No evidence of human involvement? Yeah right!" These are stories that people are telling that we have no way of assessing or corroborating. They're not evidence. How has this mystery killer got to so many animals without ever being caught in person or on CCTV? | |||
"So today after a 3 year investigation and over 1000 mutiliated cat deaths the police have decided its case closed and that there was no human involvement. They said it is most likely due to car accidents and foxes scavenging the bodys. Now i dont know about anyone else and i know foxes are smart but i dont believe for a second that a fox is able to carry back the cats dead bodys to their owners house and leave then there headless to be found by its owner. Which was the case in many of these incidents. I suspect its more likely that the police are just too underfunded and had to wipe their hands clean of this investigation and just give a BS conclusion to it. Anyone else believe it was down to road accidents and foxes or definitely some human involvement?" I think it was percy thrower absolutely sick of the little buggers crappiing in his flower beds | |||
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"Anyone else believe it was down to road accidents and foxes or definitely some human involvement? Yes, I'm willing to believe this. Are there any actual evidenced examples of cat deaths that contradict it? How about this one? http://www.whtimes.co.uk/news/potters-bar-woman-speaks-out-following-croydon-cat-killer-conclu-1-5704427 Why would police tell her not to reveal trademark details if it were not human hands responsible? I mean...that's one person speculating, it's not evidence. I'm sure there are loads of odd cat deaths, but how about something that shows a person was definitely involved? Here is an extract from today’s SNARL statement which gives details of some of the cases. In Sussex, there was a case where a rabbit was killed and his body displayed in the same manner as the cats and rabbits and foxes we have attended in other areas. His injuries were a match to these other victims. His liver was placed at the bottom of the garden on a raised stone next to the shed, with a trail of fur leading to it. The next night, the owner’s locked catflap was kicked in and the victim’s collar placed on the stone his liver had been. That’s not foxes. In West Wickham, a cat’s collar was returned five months after the cat was killed. That’s not foxes. In Watford, a rabbit was killed and six months later, his head was returned to his garden and found by his owner. It was pristine and looked like it had just happened. This wasn’t reported to Police as she was disgusted by their response when reporting the incident. That’s not foxes. No evidence of human involvement? Yeah right! These are stories that people are telling that we have no way of assessing or corroborating. They're not evidence. How has this mystery killer got to so many animals without ever being caught in person or on CCTV? " A perfectly preserved head of a decapitated animal being left on the lawn 6 months after the animal was killed isn’t evidence? If these animals were being killed in town centres I would expect cctv to be available.However, how many quiet residential streets have cctv? Of those few households who do have it, how many have systems sophisticated enough to provide clear pictures? | |||
" A perfectly preserved head of a decapitated animal being left on the lawn 6 months after the animal was killed isn’t evidence? If these animals were being killed in town centres I would expect cctv to be available.However, how many quiet residential streets have cctv? Of those few households who do have it, how many have systems sophisticated enough to provide clear pictures? " The story about the head is...a story. Within 5 mins you can find people online who swear they've met Nessie. Meanwhile, one person has apparently killed over 1000 animals, and been back to the scene of the crime to arrange displays of his victims, and never been seen by a single eye witness or camera. A stealth master! | |||
" A perfectly preserved head of a decapitated animal being left on the lawn 6 months after the animal was killed isn’t evidence? If these animals were being killed in town centres I would expect cctv to be available.However, how many quiet residential streets have cctv? Of those few households who do have it, how many have systems sophisticated enough to provide clear pictures? The story about the head is...a story. Within 5 mins you can find people online who swear they've met Nessie. Meanwhile, one person has apparently killed over 1000 animals, and been back to the scene of the crime to arrange displays of his victims, and never been seen by a single eye witness or camera. A stealth master! " Incorrect. There have been around 400 confirmed deaths with the same characteristics. The investigation has ruled out over 1500 animal deaths as not linked, thought to be due to predators and rta’s | |||
" A perfectly preserved head of a decapitated animal being left on the lawn 6 months after the animal was killed isn’t evidence? If these animals were being killed in town centres I would expect cctv to be available.However, how many quiet residential streets have cctv? Of those few households who do have it, how many have systems sophisticated enough to provide clear pictures? The story about the head is...a story. Within 5 mins you can find people online who swear they've met Nessie. Meanwhile, one person has apparently killed over 1000 animals, and been back to the scene of the crime to arrange displays of his victims, and never been seen by a single eye witness or camera. A stealth master! Incorrect. There have been around 400 confirmed deaths with the same characteristics. The investigation has ruled out over 1500 animal deaths as not linked, thought to be due to predators and rta’s" Ah, OK. So 'only' 400 deaths that this mystery person has caused without every leaving single trace behind, not even a footprint apparently. Impressive. | |||
"So today after a 3 year investigation and over 1000 mutiliated cat deaths the police have decided its case closed and that there was no human involvement. They said it is most likely due to car accidents and foxes scavenging the bodys. Now i dont know about anyone else and i know foxes are smart but i dont believe for a second that a fox is able to carry back the cats dead bodys to their owners house and leave then there headless to be found by its owner. Which was the case in many of these incidents. I suspect its more likely that the police are just too underfunded and had to wipe their hands clean of this investigation and just give a BS conclusion to it. Anyone else believe it was down to road accidents and foxes or definitely some human involvement?" I think it is a case of the police not having the time, money or man power to follow this anymore. | |||
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"It was a fox " One with surgical instruments and transport... | |||
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