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"So what's everyone's opinion on the 64 different genders?...I'd assume everyone would think it's bullshit but I'm not sure as there is a tranny...gay and bisexual community on here as well as other liberal minded people so not sure what they think " What do you think OP? | |||
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"So what's everyone's opinion on the 64 different genders?...I'd assume everyone would think it's bullshit but I'm not sure as there is a tranny...gay and bisexual community on here as well as other liberal minded people so not sure what they think What do you think OP?" Well you are either born with a dick or a pussy in my opinion | |||
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"I think it's nobody's business other than that person's. To you, it's use of a pronoun but to the person struggling with who they are it's a struggle with everything which has to be bloody hard. If it doesn't affect your life then so what? Use of the word 'tranny' is pretty poor form as well. " It does affect everyone else though....cos you have to recognise all these pronouns or whatever otherwise you offend someone and get in trouble | |||
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"I think it's nobody's business other than that person's. To you, it's use of a pronoun but to the person struggling with who they are it's a struggle with everything which has to be bloody hard. If it doesn't affect your life then so what? Use of the word 'tranny' is pretty poor form as well. It does affect everyone else though....cos you have to recognise all these pronouns or whatever otherwise you offend someone and get in trouble" Yep...gonna be a 'hate crime' soon if you mis-gender someone...PC police will come for you is you say Sir to a bloke in a skirt...total FUBAR if you ask me | |||
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"I think it's nobody's business other than that person's. To you, it's use of a pronoun but to the person struggling with who they are it's a struggle with everything which has to be bloody hard. If it doesn't affect your life then so what? Use of the word 'tranny' is pretty poor form as well. It does affect everyone else though....cos you have to recognise all these pronouns or whatever otherwise you offend someone and get in trouble" You'd only get into trouble if you persisted in addressing someone differently to how they want to be addressed and if you were doing it with the intent to make someone uncomfortable. It's down to the simple case of pronouns to someone who doesn't experience what this must feel like. I don't know how it must be but I very much doubt someone who is trans would go through what must be several painful surgeries and a lot of abuse and possible isolation from their family and their peers to live how they want to live. | |||
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"So what's everyone's opinion on the 64 different genders?...I'd assume everyone would think it's bullshit but I'm not sure as there is a tranny...gay and bisexual community on here as well as other liberal minded people so not sure what they think What do you think OP? Well you are either born with a dick or a pussy in my opinion" Have you been present at many births? | |||
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"No why?" You seemed to be implying that you know, for a fact, that there are only two possible options. | |||
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"I think it's nobody's business other than that person's. To you, it's use of a pronoun but to the person struggling with who they are it's a struggle with everything which has to be bloody hard. If it doesn't affect your life then so what? Use of the word 'tranny' is pretty poor form as well. It does affect everyone else though....cos you have to recognise all these pronouns or whatever otherwise you offend someone and get in trouble You'd only get into trouble if you persisted in addressing someone differently to how they want to be addressed and if you were doing it with the intent to make someone uncomfortable. It's down to the simple case of pronouns to someone who doesn't experience what this must feel like. I don't know how it must be but I very much doubt someone who is trans would go through what must be several painful surgeries and a lot of abuse and possible isolation from their family and their peers to live how they want to live. " 
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"No why? You seemed to be implying that you know, for a fact, that there are only two possible options." So what are the other options then? | |||
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"No why? You seemed to be implying that you know, for a fact, that there are only two possible options. So what are the other options then?" Hit Google ? | |||
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"No why? You seemed to be implying that you know, for a fact, that there are only two possible options. So what are the other options then?" Well,I've heard of people being born with (something resembling) both and I know at least one person who was born with neither.I don't know what other possibilities exist but,I didn't claim to know.You did. | |||
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""Options" Lol...." Maybe 'possibilities' would have been a better choice of word....my apologies. (my brain is slow due to lack of coffee). | |||
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""Options" Lol.... Maybe 'possibilities' would have been a better choice of word....my apologies. (my brain is slow due to lack of coffee)." None needed it just made me chuckle | |||
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"So what's everyone's opinion on the 64 different genders?...I'd assume everyone would think it's bullshit but I'm not sure as there is a tranny...gay and bisexual community on here as well as other liberal minded people so not sure what they think " No there fucking isn't. It's absolute liberal minded nonsense. The sexualities like "sapiosexual" (means I only date left wing people) "Polysexual" (I'm not married) Not all LGBT people are into this bullshit. | |||
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"There's two sexes defined by ones role in the reproduction process. Gender is a set of stereotypes setting out social expectations that are generally thought to apply to the two sexes. As no one conforms one hundred per cent to either male or female stereotypes there are, in fact, as many genders as there are people. " There are two genders that operate on a spectrum, you can imagine it as 0-100 for ease with feminine at 100 and masculine at 0. A 30 masculine and 40 masculine are both masculine, just to different degrees. There are two genders, 99.7% have a sex that fits into 2 categories. There's really no need for an infinite number of categories to describe the remaining 0.3%. | |||
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"So what's everyone's opinion on the 64 different genders?...I'd assume everyone would think it's bullshit but I'm not sure as there is a tranny...gay and bisexual community on here as well as other liberal minded people so not sure what they think No there fucking isn't. It's absolute liberal minded nonsense. The sexualities like "sapiosexual" (means I only date left wing people) "Polysexual" (I'm not married) Not all LGBT people are into this bullshit. " It's leftist / post modernist nonsense, nothing to do with liberalism. | |||
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"So what's everyone's opinion on the 64 different genders?...I'd assume everyone would think it's bullshit but I'm not sure as there is a tranny...gay and bisexual community on here as well as other liberal minded people so not sure what they think No there fucking isn't. It's absolute liberal minded nonsense. The sexualities like "sapiosexual" (means I only date left wing people) "Polysexual" (I'm not married) Not all LGBT people are into this bullshit. " Has this triggered you?  | |||
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"There's two sexes defined by ones role in the reproduction process. Gender is a set of stereotypes setting out social expectations that are generally thought to apply to the two sexes. As no one conforms one hundred per cent to either male or female stereotypes there are, in fact, as many genders as there are people. There are two genders that operate on a spectrum, you can imagine it as 0-100 for ease with feminine at 100 and masculine at 0. A 30 masculine and 40 masculine are both masculine, just to different degrees. There are two genders, 99.7% have a sex that fits into 2 categories. There's really no need for an infinite number of categories to describe the remaining 0.3%. " It's just 64 not infinite | |||
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"There's two sexes defined by ones role in the reproduction process. Gender is a set of stereotypes setting out social expectations that are generally thought to apply to the two sexes. As no one conforms one hundred per cent to either male or female stereotypes there are, in fact, as many genders as there are people. There are two genders that operate on a spectrum, you can imagine it as 0-100 for ease with feminine at 100 and masculine at 0. A 30 masculine and 40 masculine are both masculine, just to different degrees. There are two genders, 99.7% have a sex that fits into 2 categories. There's really no need for an infinite number of categories to describe the remaining 0.3%. It's just 64 not infinite " Facebook has more than 64 though, so it's not just 64 | |||
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"So what's everyone's opinion on the 64 different genders?...I'd assume everyone would think it's bullshit but I'm not sure as there is a tranny...gay and bisexual community on here as well as other liberal minded people so not sure what they think No there fucking isn't. It's absolute liberal minded nonsense. The sexualities like "sapiosexual" (means I only date left wing people) "Polysexual" (I'm not married) Not all LGBT people are into this bullshit. " Seriously? | |||
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"There's two sexes defined by ones role in the reproduction process. Gender is a set of stereotypes setting out social expectations that are generally thought to apply to the two sexes. As no one conforms one hundred per cent to either male or female stereotypes there are, in fact, as many genders as there are people. There are two genders that operate on a spectrum, you can imagine it as 0-100 for ease with feminine at 100 and masculine at 0. A 30 masculine and 40 masculine are both masculine, just to different degrees. There are two genders, 99.7% have a sex that fits into 2 categories. There's really no need for an infinite number of categories to describe the remaining 0.3%. It's just 64 not infinite Facebook has more than 64 though, so it's not just 64 " Oh well let's be outraged then | |||
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"So what's everyone's opinion on the 64 different genders?...I'd assume everyone would think it's bullshit but I'm not sure as there is a tranny...gay and bisexual community on here as well as other liberal minded people so not sure what they think No there fucking isn't. It's absolute liberal minded nonsense. The sexualities like "sapiosexual" (means I only date left wing people) "Polysexual" (I'm not married) Not all LGBT people are into this bullshit. Seriously? " Oh you deffinitly sound triggered | |||
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"There's two sexes defined by ones role in the reproduction process. Gender is a set of stereotypes setting out social expectations that are generally thought to apply to the two sexes. As no one conforms one hundred per cent to either male or female stereotypes there are, in fact, as many genders as there are people. There are two genders that operate on a spectrum, you can imagine it as 0-100 for ease with feminine at 100 and masculine at 0. A 30 masculine and 40 masculine are both masculine, just to different degrees. There are two genders, 99.7% have a sex that fits into 2 categories. There's really no need for an infinite number of categories to describe the remaining 0.3%. It's just 64 not infinite Facebook has more than 64 though, so it's not just 64 Oh well let's be outraged then " I'm triggered | |||
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"There's two sexes defined by ones role in the reproduction process. Gender is a set of stereotypes setting out social expectations that are generally thought to apply to the two sexes. As no one conforms one hundred per cent to either male or female stereotypes there are, in fact, as many genders as there are people. There are two genders that operate on a spectrum, you can imagine it as 0-100 for ease with feminine at 100 and masculine at 0. A 30 masculine and 40 masculine are both masculine, just to different degrees. There are two genders, 99.7% have a sex that fits into 2 categories. There's really no need for an infinite number of categories to describe the remaining 0.3%. " Gender is a social construct regarding how one exhibits behaviour thought socially appropriate for one's sex. I suppose you can say "I generally conform to societal expectations regarding the behaviour of people of the male sex", but I find it difficult to see how it's possible to create meaningful social categories of gender entirely divorced from physical biology | |||
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" The sexualities like "sapiosexual" (means I only date left wing people) " So true | |||
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"There's two sexes defined by ones role in the reproduction process. Gender is a set of stereotypes setting out social expectations that are generally thought to apply to the two sexes. As no one conforms one hundred per cent to either male or female stereotypes there are, in fact, as many genders as there are people. There are two genders that operate on a spectrum, you can imagine it as 0-100 for ease with feminine at 100 and masculine at 0. A 30 masculine and 40 masculine are both masculine, just to different degrees. There are two genders, 99.7% have a sex that fits into 2 categories. There's really no need for an infinite number of categories to describe the remaining 0.3%. It's just 64 not infinite Facebook has more than 64 though, so it's not just 64 Oh well let's be outraged then I'm triggered " I knew it !!!  | |||
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"There's two sexes defined by ones role in the reproduction process. Gender is a set of stereotypes setting out social expectations that are generally thought to apply to the two sexes. As no one conforms one hundred per cent to either male or female stereotypes there are, in fact, as many genders as there are people. There are two genders that operate on a spectrum, you can imagine it as 0-100 for ease with feminine at 100 and masculine at 0. A 30 masculine and 40 masculine are both masculine, just to different degrees. There are two genders, 99.7% have a sex that fits into 2 categories. There's really no need for an infinite number of categories to describe the remaining 0.3%. Gender is a social construct regarding how one exhibits behaviour thought socially appropriate for one's sex. I suppose you can say "I generally conform to societal expectations regarding the behaviour of people of the male sex", but I find it difficult to see how it's possible to create meaningful social categories of gender entirely divorced from physical biology " So do I. What are arguing about? | |||
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"There's two sexes defined by ones role in the reproduction process. Gender is a set of stereotypes setting out social expectations that are generally thought to apply to the two sexes. As no one conforms one hundred per cent to either male or female stereotypes there are, in fact, as many genders as there are people. There are two genders that operate on a spectrum, you can imagine it as 0-100 for ease with feminine at 100 and masculine at 0. A 30 masculine and 40 masculine are both masculine, just to different degrees. There are two genders, 99.7% have a sex that fits into 2 categories. There's really no need for an infinite number of categories to describe the remaining 0.3%. It's just 64 not infinite Facebook has more than 64 though, so it's not just 64 Oh well let's be outraged then I'm triggered I knew it !!! "The day my son comes home from school and shows me a fucking gender unicorn is that day that you'll see the news showing a school in Reading getting burnt down. | |||
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"There's two sexes defined by ones role in the reproduction process. Gender is a set of stereotypes setting out social expectations that are generally thought to apply to the two sexes. As no one conforms one hundred per cent to either male or female stereotypes there are, in fact, as many genders as there are people. There are two genders that operate on a spectrum, you can imagine it as 0-100 for ease with feminine at 100 and masculine at 0. A 30 masculine and 40 masculine are both masculine, just to different degrees. There are two genders, 99.7% have a sex that fits into 2 categories. There's really no need for an infinite number of categories to describe the remaining 0.3%. Gender is a social construct regarding how one exhibits behaviour thought socially appropriate for one's sex. I suppose you can say "I generally conform to societal expectations regarding the behaviour of people of the male sex", but I find it difficult to see how it's possible to create meaningful social categories of gender entirely divorced from physical biology So do I. What are arguing about? " That there's only two genders. As gender is a subjective social category, there can be as many genders as people want there to be. As opposed to sex, which is based on objective facts that show 99.9% of the population as unambiguously male or female. | |||
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"So what's everyone's opinion on the 64 different genders?...I'd assume everyone would think it's bullshit but I'm not sure as there is a tranny...gay and bisexual community on here as well as other liberal minded people so not sure what they think No there fucking isn't. It's absolute liberal minded nonsense. The sexualities like "sapiosexual" (means I only date left wing people) "Polysexual" (I'm not married) Not all LGBT people are into this bullshit. " Oh fuck, here we go again! | |||
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"There's two sexes defined by ones role in the reproduction process. Gender is a set of stereotypes setting out social expectations that are generally thought to apply to the two sexes. As no one conforms one hundred per cent to either male or female stereotypes there are, in fact, as many genders as there are people. There are two genders that operate on a spectrum, you can imagine it as 0-100 for ease with feminine at 100 and masculine at 0. A 30 masculine and 40 masculine are both masculine, just to different degrees. There are two genders, 99.7% have a sex that fits into 2 categories. There's really no need for an infinite number of categories to describe the remaining 0.3%. Gender is a social construct regarding how one exhibits behaviour thought socially appropriate for one's sex. I suppose you can say "I generally conform to societal expectations regarding the behaviour of people of the male sex", but I find it difficult to see how it's possible to create meaningful social categories of gender entirely divorced from physical biology So do I. What are arguing about? That there's only two genders. As gender is a subjective social category, there can be as many genders as people want there to be. As opposed to sex, which is based on objective facts that show 99.9% of the population as unambiguously male or female. " But since gender can't be entire seperate from biology then it is inherently bound, you said it yourself. It's not a 100% social construct. | |||
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"Jeez. Roll on the apocalypse "Got your boots ready ? | |||
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"There's two sexes defined by ones role in the reproduction process. Gender is a set of stereotypes setting out social expectations that are generally thought to apply to the two sexes. As no one conforms one hundred per cent to either male or female stereotypes there are, in fact, as many genders as there are people. There are two genders that operate on a spectrum, you can imagine it as 0-100 for ease with feminine at 100 and masculine at 0. A 30 masculine and 40 masculine are both masculine, just to different degrees. There are two genders, 99.7% have a sex that fits into 2 categories. There's really no need for an infinite number of categories to describe the remaining 0.3%. It's just 64 not infinite Facebook has more than 64 though, so it's not just 64 Oh well let's be outraged then I'm triggered I knew it !!!
The day my son comes home from school and shows me a fucking gender unicorn is that day that you'll see the news showing a school in Reading getting burnt down. "But... what about the unicorns  | |||
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"There's two sexes defined by ones role in the reproduction process. Gender is a set of stereotypes setting out social expectations that are generally thought to apply to the two sexes. As no one conforms one hundred per cent to either male or female stereotypes there are, in fact, as many genders as there are people. There are two genders that operate on a spectrum, you can imagine it as 0-100 for ease with feminine at 100 and masculine at 0. A 30 masculine and 40 masculine are both masculine, just to different degrees. There are two genders, 99.7% have a sex that fits into 2 categories. There's really no need for an infinite number of categories to describe the remaining 0.3%. Gender is a social construct regarding how one exhibits behaviour thought socially appropriate for one's sex. I suppose you can say "I generally conform to societal expectations regarding the behaviour of people of the male sex", but I find it difficult to see how it's possible to create meaningful social categories of gender entirely divorced from physical biology So do I. What are arguing about? That there's only two genders. As gender is a subjective social category, there can be as many genders as people want there to be. As opposed to sex, which is based on objective facts that show 99.9% of the population as unambiguously male or female. But since gender can't be entire seperate from biology then it is inherently bound, you said it yourself. It's not a 100% social construct. " But you can make up particular categories and if they resonate with people they will gain traction Say a biological female behaves 60% in a stereotypical female way and 40% in a particular male way and calls herself a demigirl. Lots of other people decide that they behave in a similar way and also call themselves demigirls. Before you know it, demigirls exist as a social category. Obviously that category exists nowhere other than in the minds of people, but one can say the same of Christians, Marxists, Sheffield United supporters or any other social category bound together by common beliefs or allegiances. | |||
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"Jeez. Roll on the apocalypse
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"Jeez. Roll on the apocalypse
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We'll all be off to re-education camps soon enough. "Personality adjustment camps  | |||
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"There's two sexes defined by ones role in the reproduction process. Gender is a set of stereotypes setting out social expectations that are generally thought to apply to the two sexes. As no one conforms one hundred per cent to either male or female stereotypes there are, in fact, as many genders as there are people. There are two genders that operate on a spectrum, you can imagine it as 0-100 for ease with feminine at 100 and masculine at 0. A 30 masculine and 40 masculine are both masculine, just to different degrees. There are two genders, 99.7% have a sex that fits into 2 categories. There's really no need for an infinite number of categories to describe the remaining 0.3%. Gender is a social construct regarding how one exhibits behaviour thought socially appropriate for one's sex. I suppose you can say "I generally conform to societal expectations regarding the behaviour of people of the male sex", but I find it difficult to see how it's possible to create meaningful social categories of gender entirely divorced from physical biology So do I. What are arguing about? That there's only two genders. As gender is a subjective social category, there can be as many genders as people want there to be. As opposed to sex, which is based on objective facts that show 99.9% of the population as unambiguously male or female. But since gender can't be entire seperate from biology then it is inherently bound, you said it yourself. It's not a 100% social construct. But you can make up particular categories and if they resonate with people they will gain traction Say a biological female behaves 60% in a stereotypical female way and 40% in a particular male way and calls herself a demigirl. Lots of other people decide that they behave in a similar way and also call themselves demigirls. Before you know it, demigirls exist as a social category. Obviously that category exists nowhere other than in the minds of people, but one can say the same of Christians, Marxists, Sheffield United supporters or any other social category bound together by common beliefs or allegiances. " Oh I forgot you've got one of those wierd beliefs about, if enough people agree an apple is an orange then it becomes an orange. What's it called again? Demigirl isn't a gender. Just like when i call certain people here "beta males", that isn't a gender, it's an insult implying their behaviour is too far away from what it should be. | |||
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"I was worried I wouldn't be able to fulfill my quota for ignorant and ill informed views today. Thank God this thread was here. Crisis averted." You certainly have  | |||
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"Call yourself a lamppost for all I care. If a lady born as “Man” wants to be called Miss or Mrs it’s really no big deal to me. I will try to get it right. I don’t see an issue at all. " | |||
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"In reality... There's a condition called "gender dysmorphia" and it's well accepted and writtern about and scientificly studied... If some moron says "I'm sapiosexualpollydemiheminonbinaryzevoncucksexual" Then any credible scientist will get annoyed with them. Anyone with a 100iq can see how losely fitting these lables actually are... Genuine transgender men want to be women. Not "plant based lifeforms" This is what the left wing does. Left wing is genrally privalidged white normal people trying to speak for other minorities. I agree it's totally bizzare but non of my lgbt friends do this bizzare shit. It's a modern phenomenon and they don't represent LGBT. It's a movement within LGBT and loads of people want nothing to do with it. You will find many gay/transgender who really can't stand politicly correct left wing morons and are happy in their own skin without causing trubble. Society hasn't been helped by loads of Christian/muslim/jewish bigotry over the last few centuries. But now LGBT get some power they have just abused it. They try to speak as individuals for every LGBT person. Turns out alot of us are quite conservative and don't want to be included in this. " Because it's not an LGBT thing, it's a bunch of Marxists highjacking the LGBT movement. I've never met a transexual person who wanted to be referred to as anything other than their acquired gender, why the fuck would they!? | |||
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"In reality... There's a condition called "gender dysmorphia" and it's well accepted and writtern about and scientificly studied... If some moron says "I'm sapiosexualpollydemiheminonbinaryzevoncucksexual" Then any credible scientist will get annoyed with them. Anyone with a 100iq can see how losely fitting these lables actually are... Genuine transgender men want to be women. Not "plant based lifeforms" This is what the left wing does. Left wing is genrally privalidged white normal people trying to speak for other minorities. I agree it's totally bizzare but non of my lgbt friends do this bizzare shit. It's a modern phenomenon and they don't represent LGBT. It's a movement within LGBT and loads of people want nothing to do with it. You will find many gay/transgender who really can't stand politicly correct left wing morons and are happy in their own skin without causing trubble. Society hasn't been helped by loads of Christian/muslim/jewish bigotry over the last few centuries. But now LGBT get some power they have just abused it. They try to speak as individuals for every LGBT person. Turns out alot of us are quite conservative and don't want to be included in this. " Oh why getting religion involved fuck sake no one was even talking about religion....let me guess religions responsible for all wars | |||
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"I get round this by refering to everyone as Dave. Dave has no sex or gender.." Even though it's a blokes name | |||
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"You just find people are super special snowflakes. Some crossdresser has a special now existence as some bizzare new gender. It's not "scientific my proven" I've got other friends in LGBT.including right wing transgender people on "The other websight" I've got a transgender friend who liked fishing/guns/pickup trucks and republicans Anouther who's an exnavy officer/soldiers The problem is the LGBT movements adopted a stupid liberal adgenda like every other movement and they now want to say "Your not gay enough for us because you hold normal values" They are wankers honestly. The "only gay in the villeage" type people... They want to ruin everyone else's opinion on LGBT They want to politicize it and make it left wing... Like the marxists do with racial minorities. Some of my friends literally live as women/man. You find these lot are "gender fluid" (crossdressers) who dont actually live as transgender people." You sound triggered. Are you triggered? | |||
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"I get round this by refering to everyone as Dave. Dave has no sex or gender.." "Hello Dave... your my wife now,Dave" | |||
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"I get round this by refering to everyone as Dave. Dave has no sex or gender.. "Hello Dave... your my wife now,Dave" "That's dark | |||
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"There's two sexes defined by ones role in the reproduction process. Gender is a set of stereotypes setting out social expectations that are generally thought to apply to the two sexes. As no one conforms one hundred per cent to either male or female stereotypes there are, in fact, as many genders as there are people. There are two genders that operate on a spectrum, you can imagine it as 0-100 for ease with feminine at 100 and masculine at 0. A 30 masculine and 40 masculine are both masculine, just to different degrees. There are two genders, 99.7% have a sex that fits into 2 categories. There's really no need for an infinite number of categories to describe the remaining 0.3%. Gender is a social construct regarding how one exhibits behaviour thought socially appropriate for one's sex. I suppose you can say "I generally conform to societal expectations regarding the behaviour of people of the male sex", but I find it difficult to see how it's possible to create meaningful social categories of gender entirely divorced from physical biology So do I. What are arguing about? That there's only two genders. As gender is a subjective social category, there can be as many genders as people want there to be. As opposed to sex, which is based on objective facts that show 99.9% of the population as unambiguously male or female. But since gender can't be entire seperate from biology then it is inherently bound, you said it yourself. It's not a 100% social construct. But you can make up particular categories and if they resonate with people they will gain traction Say a biological female behaves 60% in a stereotypical female way and 40% in a particular male way and calls herself a demigirl. Lots of other people decide that they behave in a similar way and also call themselves demigirls. Before you know it, demigirls exist as a social category. Obviously that category exists nowhere other than in the minds of people, but one can say the same of Christians, Marxists, Sheffield United supporters or any other social category bound together by common beliefs or allegiances. Oh I forgot you've got one of those wierd beliefs about, if enough people agree an apple is an orange then it becomes an orange. What's it called again? Demigirl isn't a gender. Just like when i call certain people here "beta males", that isn't a gender, it's an insult implying their behaviour is too far away from what it should be. " Way to go to completely misunderstand. I am distinguishing between things that exist independently of human minds and things that only exist as concepts in human minds. Objects called applies and oranges exist outside human minds and are different. Thus we attach terms to them to label those differences. The same with males and females. Social categories exist when common human behaviours are overserved and terns applied to people exhibiting that behaviour. These categories are contingent and only exist in human minds. To give an obvious example, Marxists didn't exist before Karl marx was alive. Now it's a commonly known social category you often refer to. Hence "Marxists" as a category do not have a universal objective existence like oranges do. At some point, someone had to say. "all those people who agree with what Marx wrote, let's call them Marxists" and lo and behold a hitherto unknown social category came into existence. So, if lots of people start calling themselves demigirls and the category becomes generally accepted than the category exists. The fact we can have a meaningful discussion about them is in fact an admission of their existence as a social category. | |||
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"I get round this by refering to everyone as Dave. Dave has no sex or gender.." Two of my gay friends call everyone sausage. | |||
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"You just find people are super special snowflakes. Some crossdresser has a special now existence as some bizzare new gender. It's not "scientific my proven" I've got other friends in LGBT.including right wing transgender people on "The other websight" I've got a transgender friend who liked fishing/guns/pickup trucks and republicans Anouther who's an exnavy officer/soldiers The problem is the LGBT movements adopted a stupid liberal adgenda like every other movement and they now want to say "Your not gay enough for us because you hold normal values" They are wankers honestly. The "only gay in the villeage" type people... They want to ruin everyone else's opinion on LGBT They want to politicize it and make it left wing... Like the marxists do with racial minorities. Some of my friends literally live as women/man. You find these lot are "gender fluid" (crossdressers) who dont actually live as transgender people. You sound triggered. Are you triggered? " I don't appreciate them putting chemicals in the water that turn the figgin frogs gay | |||
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"There's two sexes defined by ones role in the reproduction process. Gender is a set of stereotypes setting out social expectations that are generally thought to apply to the two sexes. As no one conforms one hundred per cent to either male or female stereotypes there are, in fact, as many genders as there are people. There are two genders that operate on a spectrum, you can imagine it as 0-100 for ease with feminine at 100 and masculine at 0. A 30 masculine and 40 masculine are both masculine, just to different degrees. There are two genders, 99.7% have a sex that fits into 2 categories. There's really no need for an infinite number of categories to describe the remaining 0.3%. Gender is a social construct regarding how one exhibits behaviour thought socially appropriate for one's sex. I suppose you can say "I generally conform to societal expectations regarding the behaviour of people of the male sex", but I find it difficult to see how it's possible to create meaningful social categories of gender entirely divorced from physical biology So do I. What are arguing about? That there's only two genders. As gender is a subjective social category, there can be as many genders as people want there to be. As opposed to sex, which is based on objective facts that show 99.9% of the population as unambiguously male or female. But since gender can't be entire seperate from biology then it is inherently bound, you said it yourself. It's not a 100% social construct. But you can make up particular categories and if they resonate with people they will gain traction Say a biological female behaves 60% in a stereotypical female way and 40% in a particular male way and calls herself a demigirl. Lots of other people decide that they behave in a similar way and also call themselves demigirls. Before you know it, demigirls exist as a social category. Obviously that category exists nowhere other than in the minds of people, but one can say the same of Christians, Marxists, Sheffield United supporters or any other social category bound together by common beliefs or allegiances. Oh I forgot you've got one of those wierd beliefs about, if enough people agree an apple is an orange then it becomes an orange. What's it called again? Demigirl isn't a gender. Just like when i call certain people here "beta males", that isn't a gender, it's an insult implying their behaviour is too far away from what it should be. Way to go to completely misunderstand. I am distinguishing between things that exist independently of human minds and things that only exist as concepts in human minds. Objects called applies and oranges exist outside human minds and are different. Thus we attach terms to them to label those differences. The same with males and females. Social categories exist when common human behaviours are overserved and terns applied to people exhibiting that behaviour. These categories are contingent and only exist in human minds. To give an obvious example, Marxists didn't exist before Karl marx was alive. Now it's a commonly known social category you often refer to. Hence "Marxists" as a category do not have a universal objective existence like oranges do. At some point, someone had to say. "all those people who agree with what Marx wrote, let's call them Marxists" and lo and behold a hitherto unknown social category came into existence. So, if lots of people start calling themselves demigirls and the category becomes generally accepted than the category exists. The fact we can have a meaningful discussion about them is in fact an admission of their existence as a social category. " So... there are 64 genders because...I say so and all I need is just a few people to agree and it exists No need to thank me | |||
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"There's two sexes defined by ones role in the reproduction process. Gender is a set of stereotypes setting out social expectations that are generally thought to apply to the two sexes. As no one conforms one hundred per cent to either male or female stereotypes there are, in fact, as many genders as there are people. There are two genders that operate on a spectrum, you can imagine it as 0-100 for ease with feminine at 100 and masculine at 0. A 30 masculine and 40 masculine are both masculine, just to different degrees. There are two genders, 99.7% have a sex that fits into 2 categories. There's really no need for an infinite number of categories to describe the remaining 0.3%. Gender is a social construct regarding how one exhibits behaviour thought socially appropriate for one's sex. I suppose you can say "I generally conform to societal expectations regarding the behaviour of people of the male sex", but I find it difficult to see how it's possible to create meaningful social categories of gender entirely divorced from physical biology So do I. What are arguing about? That there's only two genders. As gender is a subjective social category, there can be as many genders as people want there to be. As opposed to sex, which is based on objective facts that show 99.9% of the population as unambiguously male or female. But since gender can't be entire seperate from biology then it is inherently bound, you said it yourself. It's not a 100% social construct. But you can make up particular categories and if they resonate with people they will gain traction Say a biological female behaves 60% in a stereotypical female way and 40% in a particular male way and calls herself a demigirl. Lots of other people decide that they behave in a similar way and also call themselves demigirls. Before you know it, demigirls exist as a social category. Obviously that category exists nowhere other than in the minds of people, but one can say the same of Christians, Marxists, Sheffield United supporters or any other social category bound together by common beliefs or allegiances. Oh I forgot you've got one of those wierd beliefs about, if enough people agree an apple is an orange then it becomes an orange. What's it called again? Demigirl isn't a gender. Just like when i call certain people here "beta males", that isn't a gender, it's an insult implying their behaviour is too far away from what it should be. Way to go to completely misunderstand. I am distinguishing between things that exist independently of human minds and things that only exist as concepts in human minds. Objects called applies and oranges exist outside human minds and are different. Thus we attach terms to them to label those differences. The same with males and females. Social categories exist when common human behaviours are overserved and terns applied to people exhibiting that behaviour. These categories are contingent and only exist in human minds. To give an obvious example, Marxists didn't exist before Karl marx was alive. Now it's a commonly known social category you often refer to. Hence "Marxists" as a category do not have a universal objective existence like oranges do. At some point, someone had to say. "all those people who agree with what Marx wrote, let's call them Marxists" and lo and behold a hitherto unknown social category came into existence. So, if lots of people start calling themselves demigirls and the category becomes generally accepted than the category exists. The fact we can have a meaningful discussion about them is in fact an admission of their existence as a social category. So... there are 64 genders because...I say so and all I need is just a few people to agree and it exists No need to thank me" Absolutely. Social categories only exist in human minds. . There were no such things as football supporters two hundred years ago, how we have people identifying with supporters of thousands of clubs. | |||
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" You sound triggered. Are you triggered? " Yeh. I don't like left wing ideology or having it forced by social justice keyboard warriors. It's hard to just close off my mind and act like it's all sane. It's "far left" We don't like nazis/bnp But these people are drawn towards communism. They don't know they are....They would be "usefull idiots" Some biology professor looking his job over this is insane! Lgbt community bullying Christians then defending Islam is bizzare... They don't represent LGBT! They are left wing people using anouther banner to push a political adgenda. Ofcourse I get "triggered" Some of them are nasty horrible bullies. | |||
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"There's two sexes defined by ones role in the reproduction process. Gender is a set of stereotypes setting out social expectations that are generally thought to apply to the two sexes. As no one conforms one hundred per cent to either male or female stereotypes there are, in fact, as many genders as there are people. There are two genders that operate on a spectrum, you can imagine it as 0-100 for ease with feminine at 100 and masculine at 0. A 30 masculine and 40 masculine are both masculine, just to different degrees. There are two genders, 99.7% have a sex that fits into 2 categories. There's really no need for an infinite number of categories to describe the remaining 0.3%. Gender is a social construct regarding how one exhibits behaviour thought socially appropriate for one's sex. I suppose you can say "I generally conform to societal expectations regarding the behaviour of people of the male sex", but I find it difficult to see how it's possible to create meaningful social categories of gender entirely divorced from physical biology So do I. What are arguing about? That there's only two genders. As gender is a subjective social category, there can be as many genders as people want there to be. As opposed to sex, which is based on objective facts that show 99.9% of the population as unambiguously male or female. But since gender can't be entire seperate from biology then it is inherently bound, you said it yourself. It's not a 100% social construct. But you can make up particular categories and if they resonate with people they will gain traction Say a biological female behaves 60% in a stereotypical female way and 40% in a particular male way and calls herself a demigirl. Lots of other people decide that they behave in a similar way and also call themselves demigirls. Before you know it, demigirls exist as a social category. Obviously that category exists nowhere other than in the minds of people, but one can say the same of Christians, Marxists, Sheffield United supporters or any other social category bound together by common beliefs or allegiances. Oh I forgot you've got one of those wierd beliefs about, if enough people agree an apple is an orange then it becomes an orange. What's it called again? Demigirl isn't a gender. Just like when i call certain people here "beta males", that isn't a gender, it's an insult implying their behaviour is too far away from what it should be. Way to go to completely misunderstand. I am distinguishing between things that exist independently of human minds and things that only exist as concepts in human minds. Objects called applies and oranges exist outside human minds and are different. Thus we attach terms to them to label those differences. The same with males and females. Social categories exist when common human behaviours are overserved and terns applied to people exhibiting that behaviour. These categories are contingent and only exist in human minds. To give an obvious example, Marxists didn't exist before Karl marx was alive. Now it's a commonly known social category you often refer to. Hence "Marxists" as a category do not have a universal objective existence like oranges do. At some point, someone had to say. "all those people who agree with what Marx wrote, let's call them Marxists" and lo and behold a hitherto unknown social category came into existence. So, if lots of people start calling themselves demigirls and the category becomes generally accepted than the category exists. The fact we can have a meaningful discussion about them is in fact an admission of their existence as a social category. So... there are 64 genders because...I say so and all I need is just a few people to agree and it exists No need to thank me Absolutely. Social categories only exist in human minds. . There were no such things as football supporters two hundred years ago, how we have people identifying with supporters of thousands of clubs. " We've already got categories that 99.7% of people agree upon. So 0.3% is enough to make something meaningful? | |||
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"I get round this by refering to everyone as Dave. Dave has no sex or gender.. "Hello Dave... your my wife now,Dave" " | |||
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"There's two sexes defined by ones role in the reproduction process. Gender is a set of stereotypes setting out social expectations that are generally thought to apply to the two sexes. As no one conforms one hundred per cent to either male or female stereotypes there are, in fact, as many genders as there are people. There are two genders that operate on a spectrum, you can imagine it as 0-100 for ease with feminine at 100 and masculine at 0. A 30 masculine and 40 masculine are both masculine, just to different degrees. There are two genders, 99.7% have a sex that fits into 2 categories. There's really no need for an infinite number of categories to describe the remaining 0.3%. Gender is a social construct regarding how one exhibits behaviour thought socially appropriate for one's sex. I suppose you can say "I generally conform to societal expectations regarding the behaviour of people of the male sex", but I find it difficult to see how it's possible to create meaningful social categories of gender entirely divorced from physical biology So do I. What are arguing about? That there's only two genders. As gender is a subjective social category, there can be as many genders as people want there to be. As opposed to sex, which is based on objective facts that show 99.9% of the population as unambiguously male or female. But since gender can't be entire seperate from biology then it is inherently bound, you said it yourself. It's not a 100% social construct. But you can make up particular categories and if they resonate with people they will gain traction Say a biological female behaves 60% in a stereotypical female way and 40% in a particular male way and calls herself a demigirl. Lots of other people decide that they behave in a similar way and also call themselves demigirls. Before you know it, demigirls exist as a social category. Obviously that category exists nowhere other than in the minds of people, but one can say the same of Christians, Marxists, Sheffield United supporters or any other social category bound together by common beliefs or allegiances. Oh I forgot you've got one of those wierd beliefs about, if enough people agree an apple is an orange then it becomes an orange. What's it called again? Demigirl isn't a gender. Just like when i call certain people here "beta males", that isn't a gender, it's an insult implying their behaviour is too far away from what it should be. Way to go to completely misunderstand. I am distinguishing between things that exist independently of human minds and things that only exist as concepts in human minds. Objects called applies and oranges exist outside human minds and are different. Thus we attach terms to them to label those differences. The same with males and females. Social categories exist when common human behaviours are overserved and terns applied to people exhibiting that behaviour. These categories are contingent and only exist in human minds. To give an obvious example, Marxists didn't exist before Karl marx was alive. Now it's a commonly known social category you often refer to. Hence "Marxists" as a category do not have a universal objective existence like oranges do. At some point, someone had to say. "all those people who agree with what Marx wrote, let's call them Marxists" and lo and behold a hitherto unknown social category came into existence. So, if lots of people start calling themselves demigirls and the category becomes generally accepted than the category exists. The fact we can have a meaningful discussion about them is in fact an admission of their existence as a social category. So... there are 64 genders because...I say so and all I need is just a few people to agree and it exists No need to thank me Absolutely. Social categories only exist in human minds. . There were no such things as football supporters two hundred years ago, how we have people identifying with supporters of thousands of clubs. We've already got categories that 99.7% of people agree upon. So 0.3% is enough to make something meaningful? " Meaningful too you ? Or to them | |||
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"So what's everyone's opinion on the 64 different genders?...I'd assume everyone would think it's bullshit but I'm not sure as there is a tranny...gay and bisexual community on here as well as other liberal minded people so not sure what they think What do you think OP? Well you are either born with a dick or a pussy in my opinion" So hermaphrodites don't exist then? | |||
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"There's two sexes defined by ones role in the reproduction process. Gender is a set of stereotypes setting out social expectations that are generally thought to apply to the two sexes. As no one conforms one hundred per cent to either male or female stereotypes there are, in fact, as many genders as there are people. There are two genders that operate on a spectrum, you can imagine it as 0-100 for ease with feminine at 100 and masculine at 0. A 30 masculine and 40 masculine are both masculine, just to different degrees. There are two genders, 99.7% have a sex that fits into 2 categories. There's really no need for an infinite number of categories to describe the remaining 0.3%. Gender is a social construct regarding how one exhibits behaviour thought socially appropriate for one's sex. I suppose you can say "I generally conform to societal expectations regarding the behaviour of people of the male sex", but I find it difficult to see how it's possible to create meaningful social categories of gender entirely divorced from physical biology So do I. What are arguing about? That there's only two genders. As gender is a subjective social category, there can be as many genders as people want there to be. As opposed to sex, which is based on objective facts that show 99.9% of the population as unambiguously male or female. But since gender can't be entire seperate from biology then it is inherently bound, you said it yourself. It's not a 100% social construct. But you can make up particular categories and if they resonate with people they will gain traction Say a biological female behaves 60% in a stereotypical female way and 40% in a particular male way and calls herself a demigirl. Lots of other people decide that they behave in a similar way and also call themselves demigirls. Before you know it, demigirls exist as a social category. Obviously that category exists nowhere other than in the minds of people, but one can say the same of Christians, Marxists, Sheffield United supporters or any other social category bound together by common beliefs or allegiances. Oh I forgot you've got one of those wierd beliefs about, if enough people agree an apple is an orange then it becomes an orange. What's it called again? Demigirl isn't a gender. Just like when i call certain people here "beta males", that isn't a gender, it's an insult implying their behaviour is too far away from what it should be. Way to go to completely misunderstand. I am distinguishing between things that exist independently of human minds and things that only exist as concepts in human minds. Objects called applies and oranges exist outside human minds and are different. Thus we attach terms to them to label those differences. The same with males and females. Social categories exist when common human behaviours are overserved and terns applied to people exhibiting that behaviour. These categories are contingent and only exist in human minds. To give an obvious example, Marxists didn't exist before Karl marx was alive. Now it's a commonly known social category you often refer to. Hence "Marxists" as a category do not have a universal objective existence like oranges do. At some point, someone had to say. "all those people who agree with what Marx wrote, let's call them Marxists" and lo and behold a hitherto unknown social category came into existence. So, if lots of people start calling themselves demigirls and the category becomes generally accepted than the category exists. The fact we can have a meaningful discussion about them is in fact an admission of their existence as a social category. So... there are 64 genders because...I say so and all I need is just a few people to agree and it exists No need to thank me Absolutely. Social categories only exist in human minds. . There were no such things as football supporters two hundred years ago, how we have people identifying with supporters of thousands of clubs. We've already got categories that 99.7% of people agree upon. So 0.3% is enough to make something meaningful? Meaningful too you ? Or to them " What a reasonable person would find meaningful | |||
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"There's two sexes defined by ones role in the reproduction process. Gender is a set of stereotypes setting out social expectations that are generally thought to apply to the two sexes. As no one conforms one hundred per cent to either male or female stereotypes there are, in fact, as many genders as there are people. There are two genders that operate on a spectrum, you can imagine it as 0-100 for ease with feminine at 100 and masculine at 0. A 30 masculine and 40 masculine are both masculine, just to different degrees. There are two genders, 99.7% have a sex that fits into 2 categories. There's really no need for an infinite number of categories to describe the remaining 0.3%. Gender is a social construct regarding how one exhibits behaviour thought socially appropriate for one's sex. I suppose you can say "I generally conform to societal expectations regarding the behaviour of people of the male sex", but I find it difficult to see how it's possible to create meaningful social categories of gender entirely divorced from physical biology So do I. What are arguing about? That there's only two genders. As gender is a subjective social category, there can be as many genders as people want there to be. As opposed to sex, which is based on objective facts that show 99.9% of the population as unambiguously male or female. But since gender can't be entire seperate from biology then it is inherently bound, you said it yourself. It's not a 100% social construct. But you can make up particular categories and if they resonate with people they will gain traction Say a biological female behaves 60% in a stereotypical female way and 40% in a particular male way and calls herself a demigirl. Lots of other people decide that they behave in a similar way and also call themselves demigirls. Before you know it, demigirls exist as a social category. Obviously that category exists nowhere other than in the minds of people, but one can say the same of Christians, Marxists, Sheffield United supporters or any other social category bound together by common beliefs or allegiances. Oh I forgot you've got one of those wierd beliefs about, if enough people agree an apple is an orange then it becomes an orange. What's it called again? Demigirl isn't a gender. Just like when i call certain people here "beta males", that isn't a gender, it's an insult implying their behaviour is too far away from what it should be. Way to go to completely misunderstand. I am distinguishing between things that exist independently of human minds and things that only exist as concepts in human minds. Objects called applies and oranges exist outside human minds and are different. Thus we attach terms to them to label those differences. The same with males and females. Social categories exist when common human behaviours are overserved and terns applied to people exhibiting that behaviour. These categories are contingent and only exist in human minds. To give an obvious example, Marxists didn't exist before Karl marx was alive. Now it's a commonly known social category you often refer to. Hence "Marxists" as a category do not have a universal objective existence like oranges do. At some point, someone had to say. "all those people who agree with what Marx wrote, let's call them Marxists" and lo and behold a hitherto unknown social category came into existence. So, if lots of people start calling themselves demigirls and the category becomes generally accepted than the category exists. The fact we can have a meaningful discussion about them is in fact an admission of their existence as a social category. So... there are 64 genders because...I say so and all I need is just a few people to agree and it exists No need to thank me Absolutely. Social categories only exist in human minds. . There were no such things as football supporters two hundred years ago, how we have people identifying with supporters of thousands of clubs. We've already got categories that 99.7% of people agree upon. So 0.3% is enough to make something meaningful? " Time will tell. Nothing is static. My point is that gender. (being categories about social behaviour as opposed to sex which is about objective reality) is subjective. The word "socialism" was invented in the 1820s and I am sure there were lots of people around then saying it was a made up word and socialists were not a real thing. "demigirls"may become an accepted category or it may not. But there's no reason in principle why it shouldn't. | |||
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""Beta males" = sitzspinklers Don't get any piss on the toilet seat. Men need to be trained to do as they are told.... Real men can do what they want... But spinklers need to be white knights and yes men. And they aren't allowed to pee standing up." Do you remember the days when men were real men? | |||
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""Beta males" = sitzspinklers Don't get any piss on the toilet seat. Men need to be trained to do as they are told.... Real men can do what they want... But spinklers need to be white knights and yes men. And they aren't allowed to pee standing up." So blokes are not blokes no more this shits far too confusing | |||
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""Beta males" = sitzspinklers Don't get any piss on the toilet seat. Men need to be trained to do as they are told.... Real men can do what they want... But spinklers need to be white knights and yes men. And they aren't allowed to pee standing up." I’m sorry mate but that’s just a bit fucking odd.... | |||
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"I've read some of the list of the 64 and am wondering if some of them are made up or people have genuinely felt their gender is related to space." My view is that a lot of it is kids trying to annoy their parents. Like we did being punks and skins when we were young. | |||
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""Beta males" = sitzspinklers Don't get any piss on the toilet seat. Men need to be trained to do as they are told.... Real men can do what they want... But spinklers need to be white knights and yes men. And they aren't allowed to pee standing up. Do you remember the days when men were real men?" What about us who top and wear heels? I'm a real man? | |||
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""Beta males" = sitzspinklers Don't get any piss on the toilet seat. Men need to be trained to do as they are told.... Real men can do what they want... But spinklers need to be white knights and yes men. And they aren't allowed to pee standing up. Do you remember the days when men were real men? What about us who top and wear heels? I'm a real man?" Have you changed your name? Just realised who you are | |||
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"I've read some of the list of the 64 and am wondering if some of them are made up or people have genuinely felt their gender is related to space." Can you post a link? I couldn't find a list for the full 64. | |||
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""Beta males" = sitzspinklers Don't get any piss on the toilet seat. Men need to be trained to do as they are told.... Real men can do what they want... But spinklers need to be white knights and yes men. And they aren't allowed to pee standing up. Do you remember the days when men were real men? What about us who top and wear heels? I'm a real man?" Exactly, a real man wears what he wants and doesn’t give a fuck about what others think. | |||
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""Beta males" = sitzspinklers Don't get any piss on the toilet seat. Men need to be trained to do as they are told.... Real men can do what they want... But spinklers need to be white knights and yes men. And they aren't allowed to pee standing up. Do you remember the days when men were real men? What about us who top and wear heels? I'm a real man? Exactly, a real man wears what he wants and doesn’t give a fuck about what others think. " | |||
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""Beta males" = sitzspinklers Don't get any piss on the toilet seat. Men need to be trained to do as they are told.... Real men can do what they want... But spinklers need to be white knights and yes men. And they aren't allowed to pee standing up. Do you remember the days when men were real men? What about us who top and wear heels? I'm a real man? Have you changed your name? Just realised who you are " Once Yearly Nearly was accurate. This name suits me better | |||
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""Beta males" = sitzspinklers Don't get any piss on the toilet seat. Men need to be trained to do as they are told.... Real men can do what they want... But spinklers need to be white knights and yes men. And they aren't allowed to pee standing up." Are you doing this just to get abuse or do you believe it all? I’m just wondering if it’s part of your shtick as your name implies? | |||
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""Beta males" = sitzspinklers Don't get any piss on the toilet seat. Men need to be trained to do as they are told.... Real men can do what they want... But spinklers need to be white knights and yes men. And they aren't allowed to pee standing up. Do you remember the days when men were real men? What about us who top and wear heels? I'm a real man?" Depends if you sit down to pee apparently! | |||
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""Beta males" = sitzspinklers Don't get any piss on the toilet seat. Men need to be trained to do as they are told.... Real men can do what they want... But spinklers need to be white knights and yes men. And they aren't allowed to pee standing up. Do you remember the days when men were real men? What about us who top and wear heels? I'm a real man? Exactly, a real man wears what he wants and doesn’t give a fuck about what others think.
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" You sound triggered. Are you triggered? Yeh. I don't like left wing ideology or having it forced by social justice keyboard warriors. It's hard to just close off my mind and act like it's all sane. It's "far left" We don't like nazis/bnp But these people are drawn towards communism. They don't know they are....They would be "usefull idiots" Some biology professor looking his job over this is insane! Lgbt community bullying Christians then defending Islam is bizzare... They don't represent LGBT! They are left wing people using anouther banner to push a political adgenda. Ofcourse I get "triggered" Some of them are nasty horrible bullies." Fuck yeah | |||
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""Beta males" = sitzspinklers Don't get any piss on the toilet seat. Men need to be trained to do as they are told.... Real men can do what they want... But spinklers need to be white knights and yes men. And they aren't allowed to pee standing up. I’m sorry mate but that’s just a bit fucking odd...." I know a man who sits down to pee. I demanded he return his man card to the elders. | |||
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""Beta males" = sitzspinklers Don't get any piss on the toilet seat. Men need to be trained to do as they are told.... Real men can do what they want... But spinklers need to be white knights and yes men. And they aren't allowed to pee standing up. Do you remember the days when men were real men? What about us who top and wear heels? I'm a real man? Have you changed your name? Just realised who you are Once Yearly Nearly was accurate. This name suits me better "Haha you do make me giggle. Glad you’re still here | |||
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""Beta males" = sitzspinklers Don't get any piss on the toilet seat. Men need to be trained to do as they are told.... Real men can do what they want... But spinklers need to be white knights and yes men. And they aren't allowed to pee standing up. Do you remember the days when men were real men? What about us who top and wear heels? I'm a real man? Exactly, a real man wears what he wants and doesn’t give a fuck about what others think.
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"The law passed in Germany to force men to pee sitting down. It's not even part of a fettish. It was actual implemented law. " Fake news | |||
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"Only saddos want to label everyone and everything its just bores me to death. " Saddo is a label. Just saying. | |||
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"The law passed in Germany to force men to pee sitting down. It's not even part of a fettish. It was actual implemented law. " Those Pesky Marxists!!!!! | |||
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"Only saddos want to label everyone and everything its just bores me to death. Saddo is a label. Just saying. " | |||
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"Oh and I would prefer a man to sit down and pee as they make less bloody mess!! Ha" I can do that for you! I can be your submissive if you were into that. But my "hard limit" would be turning that into a real law and forcing other men to abide by it. I think it's pretty cool to be dommed like that domestic my by a lady. But I wouldn't have that passed as a law for other men. I wouldn't seriously consider making all men into femdom slaves. It's only abit of "fun".... The world isn't a bdsm dungeon where female leaders just wear strapon and force subservient males to be "yes men" | |||
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"It does affect everyone else though....cos you have to recognise all these pronouns or whatever otherwise you offend someone and get in trouble" No you don't, just forget he and she call all people, person or people or by their name if it's known. | |||
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"So what's everyone's opinion on the 64 different genders?...I'd assume everyone would think it's bullshit but I'm not sure as there is a tranny...gay and bisexual community on here as well as other liberal minded people so not sure what they think " I think being liberal minded does not automatically make you correct. | |||
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"Oh and I would prefer a man to sit down and pee as they make less bloody mess!! Ha I can do that for you! I can be your submissive if you were into that. But my "hard limit" would be turning that into a real law and forcing other men to abide by it. I think it's pretty cool to be dommed like that domestic my by a lady. But I wouldn't have that passed as a law for other men. I wouldn't seriously consider making all men into femdom slaves. It's only abit of "fun".... The world isn't a bdsm dungeon where female leaders just wear strapon and force subservient males to be "yes men" " Best get my strap on out and dusted then. | |||
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"Haha you do make me giggle. Glad you’re still here Do you know me from "the other websight"? " She was referring to my good self. Please feel free to find another lamp post to piss on. | |||
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"Do people who don't like labels for sexuality, for example, feel the same about labels for gender?" I think gender and sexuality are a spectrum and hard to define by set lables. Neurological study doesn't correlate with gender study. The concept of gender in Thailand/japan wasn't the same as what it has become hear. They accept a 3rd gender but don't push 64 genders. Abrahamic religion did alot of damage. | |||
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"Do people who don't like labels for sexuality, for example, feel the same about labels for gender?" Probably. Fab forums are quite funny as there are a significant minority who panic at the idea of definitions. Fuck knows how they think science works or humans ever developed language, but I'd expect a correlation between the two. | |||
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"Oh and I would prefer a man to sit down and pee as they make less bloody mess!! Ha I can do that for you! I can be your submissive if you were into that. But my "hard limit" would be turning that into a real law and forcing other men to abide by it. I think it's pretty cool to be dommed like that domestic my by a lady. But I wouldn't have that passed as a law for other men. I wouldn't seriously consider making all men into femdom slaves. It's only abit of "fun".... The world isn't a bdsm dungeon where female leaders just wear strapon and force subservient males to be "yes men" " When women tell me what they think they want in a partner, they describe a friend. Some guys are dumb enough take their words literally and then baffled why the woman's sexual desire towards them evaporates. That's why beta males are so pathetic, they orchestrate their own misery. | |||
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"Do people who don't like labels for sexuality, for example, feel the same about labels for gender? I think gender and sexuality are a spectrum and hard to define by set lables. Neurological study doesn't correlate with gender study. The concept of gender in Thailand/japan wasn't the same as what it has become hear. They accept a 3rd gender but don't push 64 genders. Abrahamic religion did alot of damage." That's not what I asked. | |||
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"Which piece of German legislation is being referred to out of interest?" https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-30937492 | |||
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"Which piece of German legislation is being referred to out of interest? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-30937492" "Despite growing domestication of men in this matter, urinating while standing up is still common practice".
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"Do people who don't like labels for sexuality, for example, feel the same about labels for gender? Probably. Fab forums are quite funny as there are a significant minority who panic at the idea of definitions. Fuck knows how they think science works or humans ever developed language, but I'd expect a correlation between the two. " Labeling has a vital function, it is an evolved cognitive ability which has historically aided survival and well-being. When it comes to sexuality and gender though, (whilst not being panicked by them lol)I think that on the whole they often do more harm than good. | |||
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"Do people who don't like labels for sexuality, for example, feel the same about labels for gender? I think gender and sexuality are a spectrum and hard to define by set lables. Neurological study doesn't correlate with gender study. The concept of gender in Thailand/japan wasn't the same as what it has become hear. They accept a 3rd gender but don't push 64 genders. Abrahamic religion did alot of damage. That's not what I asked." "He" and "she" is just fine. Transgender is acceptable. But some people don't see it that way. They want to give everything a misdiagnosed psudo psychiatric lable. And that's harmful. If you watch chimpanzee (humans closest ancestor) that just fuck everything with no inhibitions. It's all normal. Most of it changes like your bedsheets. | |||
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"I've read some of the list of the 64 and am wondering if some of them are made up or people have genuinely felt their gender is related to space. My view is that a lot of it is kids trying to annoy their parents. Like we did being punks and skins when we were young. " I think you could be right, there’s nowhere else for kids to rebel, cause it’s all been done before, In the same way they used to identify as mods, rockers, punks, teddy boys, goths etc | |||
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"Do people who don't like labels for sexuality, for example, feel the same about labels for gender? Probably. Fab forums are quite funny as there are a significant minority who panic at the idea of definitions. Fuck knows how they think science works or humans ever developed language, but I'd expect a correlation between the two. Labeling has a vital function, it is an evolved cognitive ability which has historically aided survival and well-being. When it comes to sexuality and gender though, (whilst not being panicked by them lol)I think that on the whole they often do more harm than good." Thanks for answering | |||
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"I've read some of the list of the 64 and am wondering if some of them are made up or people have genuinely felt their gender is related to space. My view is that a lot of it is kids trying to annoy their parents. Like we did being punks and skins when we were young. I think you could be right, there’s nowhere else for kids to rebel, cause it’s all been done before, In the same way they used to identify as mods, rockers, punks, teddy boys, goths etc" Clearly the kids want us to get hot under the collar and tell them it's all a load of nonsense. A better approach might be. "you're a demigirl dear? That's nice, what would you like for tea?" They'd soon get fed up... | |||
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"Do people who don't like labels for sexuality, for example, feel the same about labels for gender? Probably. Fab forums are quite funny as there are a significant minority who panic at the idea of definitions. Fuck knows how they think science works or humans ever developed language, but I'd expect a correlation between the two. Labeling has a vital function, it is an evolved cognitive ability which has historically aided survival and well-being. When it comes to sexuality and gender though, (whilst not being panicked by them lol)I think that on the whole they often do more harm than good. Thanks for answering "Every new label takes us away from raw vibrant living, turning us into robots. Labels act in the same way to life as they do in art galleries, with people spending more time and appreciation reading and studying the label than just rawly appreciating and taking in the art. Today too many of us are living our entire lives in that state. Totally unrelated to the thread I know but what the heck... had to get it off my chest | |||
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"Part of the issue is that we confuse sex, sexuality and gender in Western discourse. Sex is assigned at birth, and at a push there are four: male, female, hermaphrodite and neuter. Sexuality is then how that person of whichever sex expresses themselves (or not). I've seen something to the order of 250 sexualities, unfortunately also called genders (they're not), and of those a small subset are simply antitheses of identified labels (if you're not asexual, you are allosexual, regardless of what other sexualities you may express). Until we get over our Victorian ethics and start discussing sex and sexuality in a grown up way, we will continue to fudge the issue. Because gender is a linguistic construct, and there are three in most languages: male, female and thing (neuter). Besides, until I can identify as attack helicopter, I see no reason to recognise anyone else's form of self-expression!" Hello fellow Apache o7 | |||
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"Do people who don't like labels for sexuality, for example, feel the same about labels for gender? I think gender and sexuality are a spectrum and hard to define by set lables. Neurological study doesn't correlate with gender study. The concept of gender in Thailand/japan wasn't the same as what it has become hear. They accept a 3rd gender but don't push 64 genders. Abrahamic religion did alot of damage. That's not what I asked. "He" and "she" is just fine. Transgender is acceptable. But some people don't see it that way. They want to give everything a misdiagnosed psudo psychiatric lable. And that's harmful. If you watch chimpanzee (humans closest ancestor) that just fuck everything with no inhibitions. It's all normal. Most of it changes like your bedsheets. " FYI it’s only bonobo chimps that do this as their society is more dependent on touching as social interaction then the other chimpanzees and great apes A little knowledge is a dangerous thing I have a friend whose eldest son is a straight down the line military man and whose youngest son is transgender and has his own you tube channel giving make up tutorials. For me that’s just modern life and there’s no need to stress about labels or discrimination They are both nice kids, as are their sisters, and they are living the modern life as it is lived these days | |||
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"I think it's nobody's business other than that person's. To you, it's use of a pronoun but to the person struggling with who they are it's a struggle with everything which has to be bloody hard. If it doesn't affect your life then so what? Use of the word 'tranny' is pretty poor form as well. It does affect everyone else though....cos you have to recognise all these pronouns or whatever otherwise you offend someone and get in trouble You'd only get into trouble if you persisted in addressing someone differently to how they want to be addressed and if you were doing it with the intent to make someone uncomfortable. It's down to the simple case of pronouns to someone who doesn't experience what this must feel like. I don't know how it must be but I very much doubt someone who is trans would go through what must be several painful surgeries and a lot of abuse and possible isolation from their family and their peers to live how they want to live.
Too many people are apparently desperate to believe they're going to be persecuted by the dreaded PC police. "You don't understand the precedent that controlling speech creates. I respect everybodies decisions and agree that they should be referred to respectfully...but making these law both under legal law and the ensueing Twitter mob rule is an unmitigated disaster. I don't understand gender fluidity if I'm honest. The other point I'll make is that these people shouldn't be so thin skinned. Everybody has a trigger that offends them but most develop coping strategies, appropriately thick skins and perspective on life. | |||
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"Do people who don't like labels for sexuality, for example, feel the same about labels for gender? Probably. Fab forums are quite funny as there are a significant minority who panic at the idea of definitions. Fuck knows how they think science works or humans ever developed language, but I'd expect a correlation between the two. Labeling has a vital function, it is an evolved cognitive ability which has historically aided survival and well-being. When it comes to sexuality and gender though, (whilst not being panicked by them lol)I think that on the whole they often do more harm than good. Thanks for answering
Every new label takes us away from raw vibrant living, turning us into robots. Labels act in the same way to life as they do in art galleries, with people spending more time and appreciation reading and studying the label than just rawly appreciating and taking in the art. Today too many of us are living our entire lives in that state.
Totally unrelated to the thread I know but what the heck... had to get it off my chest "Your answer if very much related to the question asked. I guess what I should have asked was, is an abundance of labels a help or a hindrance. So many seem to hate sexuality being labelled, I was just curious to hear if they felt the same about gender labels. | |||
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"Do people who don't like labels for sexuality, for example, feel the same about labels for gender? Probably. Fab forums are quite funny as there are a significant minority who panic at the idea of definitions. Fuck knows how they think science works or humans ever developed language, but I'd expect a correlation between the two. Labeling has a vital function, it is an evolved cognitive ability which has historically aided survival and well-being. When it comes to sexuality and gender though, (whilst not being panicked by them lol)I think that on the whole they often do more harm than good." Evolutionary biology... the best vehicle to make virtually any theory sound plausible to the gullible if you wrap a nice story around it...preferably in the form of a good pop science beach read. | |||
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"I think it's nobody's business other than that person's. To you, it's use of a pronoun but to the person struggling with who they are it's a struggle with everything which has to be bloody hard. If it doesn't affect your life then so what? Use of the word 'tranny' is pretty poor form as well. It does affect everyone else though....cos you have to recognise all these pronouns or whatever otherwise you offend someone and get in trouble You'd only get into trouble if you persisted in addressing someone differently to how they want to be addressed and if you were doing it with the intent to make someone uncomfortable. It's down to the simple case of pronouns to someone who doesn't experience what this must feel like. I don't know how it must be but I very much doubt someone who is trans would go through what must be several painful surgeries and a lot of abuse and possible isolation from their family and their peers to live how they want to live.
Too many people are apparently desperate to believe they're going to be persecuted by the dreaded PC police.
You don't understand the precedent that controlling speech creates.
I respect everybodies decisions and agree that they should be referred to respectfully...but making these law both under legal law and the ensueing Twitter mob rule is an unmitigated disaster.
I don't understand gender fluidity if I'm honest.
The other point I'll make is that these people shouldn't be so thin skinned. Everybody has a trigger that offends them but most develop coping strategies, appropriately thick skins and perspective on life. "But,who is being thin skinned? Is it the people who howl about being persecuted just because they are being asked to respect another persons feelings? Or appear to be upset that their former ability to abuse and attack minorities is being eroded a little more each day? Or those who say 'we didn't have this in my day and I don't understand it,so I'm going to belittle it'.? I don't understand gender fluidity either,but it doesn't hurt me or cost me anything to respect a gender fluid persons desire to be addressed in the way that they like. | |||
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"Do people who don't like labels for sexuality, for example, feel the same about labels for gender? Probably. Fab forums are quite funny as there are a significant minority who panic at the idea of definitions. Fuck knows how they think science works or humans ever developed language, but I'd expect a correlation between the two. Labeling has a vital function, it is an evolved cognitive ability which has historically aided survival and well-being. When it comes to sexuality and gender though, (whilst not being panicked by them lol)I think that on the whole they often do more harm than good. Thanks for answering
Every new label takes us away from raw vibrant living, turning us into robots. Labels act in the same way to life as they do in art galleries, with people spending more time and appreciation reading and studying the label than just rawly appreciating and taking in the art. Today too many of us are living our entire lives in that state.
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"I think it's nobody's business other than that person's. To you, it's use of a pronoun but to the person struggling with who they are it's a struggle with everything which has to be bloody hard. If it doesn't affect your life then so what? Use of the word 'tranny' is pretty poor form as well. It does affect everyone else though....cos you have to recognise all these pronouns or whatever otherwise you offend someone and get in trouble You'd only get into trouble if you persisted in addressing someone differently to how they want to be addressed and if you were doing it with the intent to make someone uncomfortable. It's down to the simple case of pronouns to someone who doesn't experience what this must feel like. I don't know how it must be but I very much doubt someone who is trans would go through what must be several painful surgeries and a lot of abuse and possible isolation from their family and their peers to live how they want to live.
Too many people are apparently desperate to believe they're going to be persecuted by the dreaded PC police.
You don't understand the precedent that controlling speech creates.
I respect everybodies decisions and agree that they should be referred to respectfully...but making these law both under legal law and the ensueing Twitter mob rule is an unmitigated disaster.
I don't understand gender fluidity if I'm honest.
The other point I'll make is that these people shouldn't be so thin skinned. Everybody has a trigger that offends them but most develop coping strategies, appropriately thick skins and perspective on life.
But,who is being thin skinned? Is it the people who howl about being persecuted just because they are being asked to respect another persons feelings? Or appear to be upset that their former ability to abuse and attack minorities is being eroded a little more each day? Or those who say 'we didn't have this in my day and I don't understand it,so I'm going to belittle it'.?
I don't understand gender fluidity either,but it doesn't hurt me or cost me anything to respect a gender fluid persons desire to be addressed in the way that they like."This!!!! By saying people should be thicker skinned you're basically saying people should have to put up with being treated like shit rather than saying to the people doing the persecuting that they should mind their own business. It's because people have turned a blind eye towards the poor treatment of minorities that we're now seeing the pushback from it. Live and let live. We don't have to understand it and we don't have to put people down to the point where it means they consider taking their own lives. | |||
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"I think it's nobody's business other than that person's. To you, it's use of a pronoun but to the person struggling with who they are it's a struggle with everything which has to be bloody hard. If it doesn't affect your life then so what? Use of the word 'tranny' is pretty poor form as well. It does affect everyone else though....cos you have to recognise all these pronouns or whatever otherwise you offend someone and get in trouble You'd only get into trouble if you persisted in addressing someone differently to how they want to be addressed and if you were doing it with the intent to make someone uncomfortable. It's down to the simple case of pronouns to someone who doesn't experience what this must feel like. I don't know how it must be but I very much doubt someone who is trans would go through what must be several painful surgeries and a lot of abuse and possible isolation from their family and their peers to live how they want to live.
Too many people are apparently desperate to believe they're going to be persecuted by the dreaded PC police.
You don't understand the precedent that controlling speech creates.
I respect everybodies decisions and agree that they should be referred to respectfully...but making these law both under legal law and the ensueing Twitter mob rule is an unmitigated disaster.
I don't understand gender fluidity if I'm honest.
The other point I'll make is that these people shouldn't be so thin skinned. Everybody has a trigger that offends them but most develop coping strategies, appropriately thick skins and perspective on life.
But,who is being thin skinned? Is it the people who howl about being persecuted just because they are being asked to respect another persons feelings? Or appear to be upset that their former ability to abuse and attack minorities is being eroded a little more each day? Or those who say 'we didn't have this in my day and I don't understand it,so I'm going to belittle it'.?
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"So what's everyone's opinion on the 64 different genders?...I'd assume everyone would think it's bullshit but I'm not sure as there is a tranny...gay and bisexual community on here as well as other liberal minded people so not sure what they think " My opinion is that it’s all a bit too much much for me to get my head around . I know I’m 57 and I guess I am way too old to understand all this new terminology , and it baffles me . I don’t spend my life telling everyone I’m a man , a male identifying as a male , and the women I know do the same as females identifying as female but not shouting about it . So why do the other 62 varieties feel the need to do so ? | |||
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"I've read some of the list of the 64 and am wondering if some of them are made up or people have genuinely felt their gender is related to space. Can you post a link? I couldn't find a list for the full 64." I don't think it's an allowed website. I just Googled what are the 64 genders? | |||
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"Do people who don't like labels for sexuality, for example, feel the same about labels for gender? Probably. Fab forums are quite funny as there are a significant minority who panic at the idea of definitions. Fuck knows how they think science works or humans ever developed language, but I'd expect a correlation between the two. Labeling has a vital function, it is an evolved cognitive ability which has historically aided survival and well-being. When it comes to sexuality and gender though, (whilst not being panicked by them lol)I think that on the whole they often do more harm than good. Thanks for answering
Every new label takes us away from raw vibrant living, turning us into robots. Labels act in the same way to life as they do in art galleries, with people spending more time and appreciation reading and studying the label than just rawly appreciating and taking in the art. Today too many of us are living our entire lives in that state.
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Your answer if very much related to the question asked.
I guess what I should have asked was, is an abundance of labels a help or a hindrance.
So many seem to hate sexuality being labelled, I was just curious to hear if they felt the same about gender labels."I can't see how labels help. There are people getting het up about being called madam or Sir by people who can't see what's going on in their heads. How are we supposed to know who wants to be called what? | |||
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"There's two sexes defined by ones role in the reproduction process. Gender is a set of stereotypes setting out social expectations that are generally thought to apply to the two sexes. As no one conforms one hundred per cent to either male or female stereotypes there are, in fact, as many genders as there are people. There are two genders that operate on a spectrum, you can imagine it as 0-100 for ease with feminine at 100 and masculine at 0. A 30 masculine and 40 masculine are both masculine, just to different degrees. There are two genders, 99.7% have a sex that fits into 2 categories. There's really no need for an infinite number of categories to describe the remaining 0.3%. " Where did you get those stats? | |||
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"There's two sexes defined by ones role in the reproduction process. Gender is a set of stereotypes setting out social expectations that are generally thought to apply to the two sexes. As no one conforms one hundred per cent to either male or female stereotypes there are, in fact, as many genders as there are people. There are two genders that operate on a spectrum, you can imagine it as 0-100 for ease with feminine at 100 and masculine at 0. A 30 masculine and 40 masculine are both masculine, just to different degrees. There are two genders, 99.7% have a sex that fits into 2 categories. There's really no need for an infinite number of categories to describe the remaining 0.3%. Where did you get those stats?" Williams Institute at UCLA | |||
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"Do people who don't like labels for sexuality, for example, feel the same about labels for gender? Probably. Fab forums are quite funny as there are a significant minority who panic at the idea of definitions. Fuck knows how they think science works or humans ever developed language, but I'd expect a correlation between the two. Labeling has a vital function, it is an evolved cognitive ability which has historically aided survival and well-being. When it comes to sexuality and gender though, (whilst not being panicked by them lol)I think that on the whole they often do more harm than good." I honestly can't see any possible way that labels harm people. I can see how not having labels makes the world insanely complicated. | |||
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" Williams Institute at UCLA " Or professor Jordan Peterson. I like prof Peterson. He's alot better at being diplomatic than I am. | |||
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"I honestly can't see any possible way that labels harm people. I can see how not having labels makes the world insanely complicated. " life without labels is complicated. Which is the problem here, if someone wants to be referred to as a specific gender type that they are not outwardly displaying , they possibly need to wear a label | |||
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"I honestly can't see any possible way that labels harm people. I can see how not having labels makes the world insanely complicated. life without labels is complicated. Which is the problem here, if someone wants to be referred to as a specific gender type that they are not outwardly displaying , they possibly need to wear a label"Does 64 labels not make it more complicated? | |||
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"I honestly can't see any possible way that labels harm people. I can see how not having labels makes the world insanely complicated. life without labels is complicated. Which is the problem here, if someone wants to be referred to as a specific gender type that they are not outwardly displaying , they possibly need to wear a label"I just don't remember this being a complicated area growing up. You had cross dressers, transvestites and transsexuals. If you were a man who liked sucking dicks and smashing puss then you were bi. What was the problem with those terms? | |||
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"I honestly can't see any possible way that labels harm people. I can see how not having labels makes the world insanely complicated. life without labels is complicated. Which is the problem here, if someone wants to be referred to as a specific gender type that they are not outwardly displaying , they possibly need to wear a label
Does 64 labels not make it more complicated?"Yes, a policy of appeasement towards extremists does not work | |||
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"I honestly can't see any possible way that labels harm people. I can see how not having labels makes the world insanely complicated. life without labels is complicated. Which is the problem here, if someone wants to be referred to as a specific gender type that they are not outwardly displaying , they possibly need to wear a label
Does 64 labels not make it more complicated?
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"I honestly can't see any possible way that labels harm people. I can see how not having labels makes the world insanely complicated. " In this case labels promote conformity and tribalism. You are expected to fit with one of the 64 labels. If you don't you either need to conform to one of them or petition for yet another. Before the label exists people may be a bit vague about what they are. The label brings clarity and identity and, with that, military operations i.e defence, attack, entrenchment, fortification, etc The single umbrella term "other" or "fluid" does away with this and infers the need to ask the individual precisely where they fit rather than pigeon holing them. As such, in this case less is definitely more... an improvement | |||
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"I honestly can't see any possible way that labels harm people. I can see how not having labels makes the world insanely complicated. In this case labels promote conformity and tribalism. You are expected to fit with one of the 64 labels. If you don't you either need to conform to one of them or petition for yet another. Before the label exists people may be a bit vague about what they are. The label brings clarity and identity and, with that, military operations i.e defence, attack, entrenchment, fortification, etc The single umbrella term "other" or "fluid" does away with this and infers the need to ask the individual precisely where they fit rather than pigeon holing them. As such, in this case less is definitely more... an improvement " Do you know how many times in my 32 years of life I've ever needed to ask someone their gender? Literally never happened. Sex, yes. Gender, no. | |||
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"Do you know how many times in my 32 years of life I've ever needed to ask someone their gender? Literally never happened. Sex, yes. Gender, no. " In 59 years on this planet, I have never needed to know either, sex or gender makes no difference to me how people identify. They are people who fit somewhere on the scale of friend, through associate to complete cunt. Being an analogue scale there are more than 64 options and people's positions on the scale may be fluid. Only those who insist on having a particular term used in reference to them need to wear a badge, I have the right to consider any who need to wear a badge to be at 'pretentious Pratt on my scale | |||
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"Do you know how many times in my 32 years of life I've ever needed to ask someone their gender? Literally never happened. Sex, yes. Gender, no. In 59 years on this planet, I have never needed to know either, sex or gender makes no difference to me how people identify. They are people who fit somewhere on the scale of friend, through associate to complete cunt. Being an analogue scale there are more than 64 options and people's positions on the scale may be fluid. Only those who insist on having a particular term used in reference to them need to wear a badge, I have the right to consider any who need to wear a badge to be at 'pretentious Pratt on my scale "Whenever someone starts a sentence with "I identify as", I just want to complete it for them with "a cunt" or a "a self absorbed cunt". | |||
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"Do you think we will get 64 different typs of bathrooms to choose from to suit all?" Can anyone without Google name the 64 states referred to in this thread? | |||
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"Do you think we will get 64 different typs of bathrooms to choose from to suit all? Can anyone without Google name the 64 states referred to in this thread?" I was wondering how many even read them. | |||
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""Beta males" = sitzspinklers Don't get any piss on the toilet seat. Men need to be trained to do as they are told.... Real men can do what they want... But spinklers need to be white knights and yes men. And they aren't allowed to pee standing up." I like a good sit down wee sometimes. Occasionally you get to have that poo you didn't know you needed. More time with a book having some peace and quiet is never a bad thing | |||
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"Do you think we will get 64 different typs of bathrooms to choose from to suit all? Can anyone without Google name the 64 states referred to in this thread?" Sure
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"Irony/hypocrisy - People who bang on about the "pc brigade", thought police, re-education centres and whatever other bollocks, yet happily and in the very same thread expound on how other people shouldn't be allowed to think and say what the fuck they like about themselves and their own lives "I don't think for most it is about allowing people to think what they like about themselves. More like being told that it is more important to consider that person's feelings than have their own. Everyone's opinion should either be equally valid or noones is. | |||
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"Irony/hypocrisy - People who bang on about the "pc brigade", thought police, re-education centres and whatever other bollocks, yet happily and in the very same thread expound on how other people shouldn't be allowed to think and say what the fuck they like about themselves and their own lives "If you want to think you are a spoon then you can walk around all day with a bowl of soup for all I care. Forcing me to call you a spoon is what i have a problem with. | |||
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"At an all girls school I know they recently had to de-genderise everything for all the girls because one "girl" identified as a boy. Now the teachers are having to learn not to relate to the girls as girls and to be inclusive of the possibility that they aren't. If that isn't an example of one person holding the rest to ransom I don't know what is. " Why would an all girls school have gender separated toilets, changing rooms, etc. in the first place? But supposing they did, and it was a girls school one pupil deciding they are not a girl would disqualify that pupil from attending. | |||
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"At an all girls school I know they recently had to de-genderise everything for all the girls because one "girl" identified as a boy. Now the teachers are having to learn not to relate to the girls as girls and to be inclusive of the possibility that they aren't. If that isn't an example of one person holding the rest to ransom I don't know what is. " Yes I saw that. They had to refer to them as students and not girls. | |||
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"At an all girls school I know they recently had to de-genderise everything for all the girls because one "girl" identified as a boy. Now the teachers are having to learn not to relate to the girls as girls and to be inclusive of the possibility that they aren't. If that isn't an example of one person holding the rest to ransom I don't know what is. Why would an all girls school have gender separated toilets, changing rooms, etc. in the first place? But supposing they did, and it was a girls school one pupil deciding they are not a girl would disqualify that pupil from attending." No. Apparently it's now sexist to call girls "girls". Gender neutral terms now need to be used so as to allow them the flexibility of not being girls | |||
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"At an all girls school I know they recently had to de-genderise everything for all the girls because one "girl" identified as a boy. Now the teachers are having to learn not to relate to the girls as girls and to be inclusive of the possibility that they aren't. If that isn't an example of one person holding the rest to ransom I don't know what is. Why would an all girls school have gender separated toilets, changing rooms, etc. in the first place? But supposing they did, and it was a girls school one pupil deciding they are not a girl would disqualify that pupil from attending. No. Apparently it's now sexist to call girls "girls". Gender neutral terms now need to be used so as to allow them the flexibility of not being girls " Wimmin then | |||
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"At an all girls school I know they recently had to de-genderise everything for all the girls because one "girl" identified as a boy. Now the teachers are having to learn not to relate to the girls as girls and to be inclusive of the possibility that they aren't. If that isn't an example of one person holding the rest to ransom I don't know what is. Why would an all girls school have gender separated toilets, changing rooms, etc. in the first place? But supposing they did, and it was a girls school one pupil deciding they are not a girl would disqualify that pupil from attending. No. Apparently it's now sexist to call girls "girls". Gender neutral terms now need to be used so as to allow them the flexibility of not being girls " So are you saying that it is no longer allowed to be a girls school, and any gender can go? Or do they only admit young females still, but call them by a different name... | |||
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"At an all girls school I know they recently had to de-genderise everything for all the girls because one "girl" identified as a boy. Now the teachers are having to learn not to relate to the girls as girls and to be inclusive of the possibility that they aren't. If that isn't an example of one person holding the rest to ransom I don't know what is. Why would an all girls school have gender separated toilets, changing rooms, etc. in the first place? But supposing they did, and it was a girls school one pupil deciding they are not a girl would disqualify that pupil from attending. No. Apparently it's now sexist to call girls "girls". Gender neutral terms now need to be used so as to allow them the flexibility of not being girls So are you saying that it is no longer allowed to be a girls school, and any gender can go? Or do they only admit young females still, but call them by a different name... " The latter | |||
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"So are you saying that it is no longer allowed to be a girls school, and any gender can go? Or do they only admit young females still, but call them by a different name... The latter " So it is still called a girls school, and no facilities or signage have needed to be changed, they just call the class atendees students... no big deal really is it. If the girl who identified as a boy was demanding boys changing rooms, and boys only rugby team it may be something to complain about... | |||
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"So are you saying that it is no longer allowed to be a girls school, and any gender can go? Or do they only admit young females still, but call them by a different name... The latter So it is still called a girls school, and no facilities or signage have needed to be changed, they just call the class atendees students... no big deal really is it. If the girl who identified as a boy was demanding boys changing rooms, and boys only rugby team it may be something to complain about... " Teachers losing their jobs because they won't pander to the delusions of the juvenile and mentally ill, nothing to see here. | |||
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"So are you saying that it is no longer allowed to be a girls school, and any gender can go? Or do they only admit young females still, but call them by a different name... The latter So it is still called a girls school, and no facilities or signage have needed to be changed, they just call the class atendees students... no big deal really is it. If the girl who identified as a boy was demanding boys changing rooms, and boys only rugby team it may be something to complain about... " The point I was making was that one student has weilded total control over the entire school, holding it to ransom over their identification. The change itself is minor and silly. But why should that student have had that power over everyone else? Now girls can't be girls any more | |||
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"The point I was making was that one student has weilded total control over the entire school, holding it to ransom over their identification. The change itself is minor and silly. But why should that student have had that power over everyone else? Now girls can't be girls any more " The other girls if they want to be called girls could of course speak up and demand that they are... one only rules if the thousand do nothing | |||
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"The point I was making was that one student has weilded total control over the entire school, holding it to ransom over their identification. The change itself is minor and silly. But why should that student have had that power over everyone else? Now girls can't be girls any more The other girls if they want to be called girls could of course speak up and demand that they are... one only rules if the thousand do nothing" So now the onus is on girls who identify as girls to petition to be called girls again? | |||
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