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"If a person didn't want to meet a whole group of people due to their size, skin colour, age, whatever reason- but it was due to hate for that group. What could be done about it? People on the preference threads have often said that not being sexually attracted to someone is ok. But if they don't want to fuck someone because they have an active dislike or hate for old/ young, or big/ slim, or white/ black people - how can that be dealt with?" Short of somehow changing their entire viewpoint on those people, you can't I suppose C | |||
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"If a person didn't want to meet a whole group of people due to their size, skin colour, age, whatever reason- but it was due to hate for that group. What could be done about it? People on the preference threads have often said that not being sexually attracted to someone is ok. But if they don't want to fuck someone because they have an active dislike or hate for old/ young, or big/ slim, or white/ black people - how can that be dealt with?" How can it be dealt with?? Put them im jail? | |||
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"Unless they are actively promoting hatred against that group, why would anything need to be done about it. People are still allowed their thoughts and feelings. " Nah. Folk who refuse to sleep with skinny people, should be locked up | |||
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"Unless they are actively promoting hatred against that group, why would anything need to be done about it. People are still allowed their thoughts and feelings. " Quite, and if such opinions are likely to offend others, perhaps they should simply learn to keep them to themselves, no harm done | |||
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"Unless they are actively promoting hatred against that group, why would anything need to be done about it. People are still allowed their thoughts and feelings. Nah. Folk who refuse to sleep with skinny people, should be locked up" So it seems, or forced into it. | |||
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"If a person didn't want to meet a whole group of people due to their size, skin colour, age, whatever reason- but it was due to hate for that group. What could be done about it? People on the preference threads have often said that not being sexually attracted to someone is ok. But if they don't want to fuck someone because they have an active dislike or hate for old/ young, or big/ slim, or white/ black people - how can that be dealt with?" Why should it be dealt with? People are perfectly entitled to hold bigotted views. | |||
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"If a person didn't want to meet a whole group of people due to their size, skin colour, age, whatever reason- but it was due to hate for that group. What could be done about it? People on the preference threads have often said that not being sexually attracted to someone is ok. But if they don't want to fuck someone because they have an active dislike or hate for old/ young, or big/ slim, or white/ black people - how can that be dealt with?" Change the law so that everyone has to fuck anyone who asks them to or on the third Sunday of every month every village, town and city brings back the stocks for people to throw rotting fruit and veg at the guilty people who dared to have a preference and actually said no. | |||
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"Unless they are actively promoting hatred against that group, why would anything need to be done about it. People are still allowed their thoughts and feelings. Nah. Folk who refuse to sleep with skinny people, should be locked up So it seems, or forced into it. " It does seem that some people try to shame some into fucking them. They are called narrow minded - or worse - for not wanting to fuck xyz type. | |||
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"You can't help what turns you on sexually. I'm sure these people are more than happy to talk to those they don't get a boner or a wide on for. I don't think it's bigotry. You don't see the same "isms" when it comes to tv/cd yet you don't hear them crying trannyism, they just accept they don't "do it" for some. I was called an ugly whore racist yesterday because I responded to someone who wanted to fuck me like a sex slave and I responded in a manner to express my dislike for that being first communication. People need to stop being so fucking defensive and calling people whatever "ist" they feel fits, when in truth it's their shitty attitude that does them no favours. " I agree!! Interesting point about tv/cd people. | |||
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"Oh, and don't forget EVERYONE needs to be bisexual, coz if not, they're being sexist. Funny how we all accept that one ain't it, if you don't fancy the same sex nobody questions it, yet others are more difficult to grasp." Bugger,I knew being straight would get me into trouble. | |||
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"Why would you want to deal with people who's views differ from yours, why do you assume they are wrong and you are right, if people have a sexual preference not to play with any given group, it doesn't make them bigoted, it's thier choice, it's not up to you to police it. " | |||
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"Oh, and don't forget EVERYONE needs to be bisexual, coz if not, they're being sexist. Funny how we all accept that one ain't it, if you don't fancy the same sex nobody questions it, yet others are more difficult to grasp. Bugger,I knew being straight would get me into trouble." You bigot you | |||
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"Having a preference is totally acceptable. Your reasons for having those preferences is acceptable too. Yes, your preference may be racist but it's yours. For me it's the expressing those views openly in your profile that I have issue with. If you are excluding someone based on their genetics then you're not someone I want to know. I don't think comparing it to body size or TV/TS is right. Those are "choices" a person makes, skin colour isn't. " Michael Jackson made a choice. People can gain/lose weight. What I'm saying is nobody should choose to be anything other than what they feel is who they are. | |||
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"Oh, and don't forget EVERYONE needs to be bisexual, coz if not, they're being sexist. Funny how we all accept that one ain't it, if you don't fancy the same sex nobody questions it, yet others are more difficult to grasp. Bugger,I knew being straight would get me into trouble. You bigot you " Blame my parents they made me,I accept no responsibility. | |||
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"Oh, and don't forget EVERYONE needs to be bisexual, coz if not, they're being sexist. Funny how we all accept that one ain't it, if you don't fancy the same sex nobody questions it, yet others are more difficult to grasp. Bugger,I knew being straight would get me into trouble. You bigot you Blame my parents they made me,I accept no responsibility." Depends. Do you have NO WOMEN on your profile? Oh fuck, hold your horses, I know you're not an evil one, you talk to other womenses, you just don't wanna have naked rudeness with them. Nope, you're alright. Parents not to blame | |||
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"You can't help what turns you on sexually. I'm sure these people are more than happy to talk to those they don't get a boner or a wide on for. I don't think it's bigotry. You don't see the same "isms" when it comes to tv/cd yet you don't hear them crying trannyism, they just accept they don't "do it" for some. All of this, but what’s a “wide on”? I was called an ugly whore racist yesterday because I responded to someone who wanted to fuck me like a sex slave and I responded in a manner to express my dislike for that being first communication. People need to stop being so fucking defensive and calling people whatever "ist" they feel fits, when in truth it's their shitty attitude that does them no favours. " | |||
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"Having a preference is totally acceptable. Your reasons for having those preferences is acceptable too. Yes, your preference may be racist but it's yours. For me it's the expressing those views openly in your profile that I have issue with. If you are excluding someone based on their genetics then you're not someone I want to know. I don't think comparing it to body size or TV/TS is right. Those are "choices" a person makes, skin colour isn't. Michael Jackson made a choice. People can gain/lose weight. What I'm saying is nobody should choose to be anything other than what they feel is who they are." I totally agree. And I agree that having a preference is totally acceptable too. For me it's the need to express it on a profile I don't understand. It makes me judge them negatively for feeling the need to do that. Conversely if someone is exclusively looking for one thing ie "BBC" I don't have that same judgment of them. I don't really know why that is and it's too early for me to try think it through! | |||
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"Unless they are actively promoting hatred against that group, why would anything need to be done about it. People are still allowed their thoughts and feelings. " Exactly this | |||
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"If a person didn't want to meet a whole group of people due to their size, skin colour, age, whatever reason- but it was due to hate for that group. What could be done about it? People on the preference threads have often said that not being sexually attracted to someone is ok. But if they don't want to fuck someone because they have an active dislike or hate for old/ young, or big/ slim, or white/ black people - how can that be dealt with?" on here ? roll my eyes, think fuck that and click on the next profile* * unless the profile was spouting pure bile, in which case a little report to admin wouldn't go amiss either | |||
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"Unless they are actively promoting hatred against that group, why would anything need to be done about it. People are still allowed their thoughts and feelings. Exactly this " Another who agrees, once anybody can be dealt with for "thought crimes" Humanity is f**ked. | |||
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"If a person didn't want to meet a whole group of people due to their size, skin colour, age, whatever reason- but it was due to hate for that group. What could be done about it? People on the preference threads have often said that not being sexually attracted to someone is ok. But if they don't want to fuck someone because they have an active dislike or hate for old/ young, or big/ slim, or white/ black people - how can that be dealt with?" this is actually a really silly question,nobody can account for their taste and shouldnt be held accountable either | |||
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" "Well if it is obvious that bigotry is behind the preference and it's expressed openly and consistently then reporting the profile would be a good first step as I'm sure it would classify as abusive and therefore against site rules. In extreme cases it's also against the law to express racist or homophobic views and there are channels open for action there. Or if it's inherent and not entirely proveable then blocking is an option." The key though is distinguishing between what is a plain and simple preference and what is a preference grounded in bigotry - the former should just be accepted by all that are excluded by that preference without further question - the latter see above." It's is not illegal to racist or homophobic views, or any others, freedom of speech laws trump it. Only if you incite action against a group or individual or act on your views do you brake any laws. You could act and discriminate against those people and ban them, being just like them, or just ignore them like you would in the real world. If I'm not what some1 is looking for cos I like to keep my pubic hair, I move on. I don't take it personally and move on, not try and get them banned for discrimination . There wouldn't be many left if we all did that. | |||
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"Not entirely sure another thread was needed to discuss this given there are already at least two running. However as I just said on one of the others: "Well if it is obvious that bigotry is behind the preference and it's expressed openly and consistently then reporting the profile would be a good first step as I'm sure it would classify as abusive and therefore against site rules. In extreme cases it's also against the law to express racist or homophobic views and there are channels open for action there. Or if it's inherent and not entirely proveable then blocking is an option." The key though is distinguishing between what is a plain and simple preference and what is a preference grounded in bigotry - the former should just be accepted by all that are excluded by that preference without further question - the latter see above." | |||
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"Having a preference is totally acceptable. Your reasons for having those preferences is acceptable too. Yes, your preference may be racist but it's yours. For me it's the expressing those views openly in your profile that I have issue with. If you are excluding someone based on their genetics then you're not someone I want to know. I don't think comparing it to body size or TV/TS is right. Those are "choices" a person makes, skin colour isn't. " So can we base it on religion because people choose that? Btw i am not suggesting i want to do that just showing an example of what people might deem to be “racist or bigoted” which is based on choice The fact is quite often there is no choice at all in who we are attracted to and who we are not .., for some its purely about looks and like it or not the colour of someones skin is something people look at Wether or not what we visually find attractive is subconsciously determined by prejudices we have been taught by society around us from a young age is another debate i guess but when people look at someone it either gets their bits tingling or it doesnt | |||
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" "Well if it is obvious that bigotry is behind the preference and it's expressed openly and consistently then reporting the profile would be a good first step as I'm sure it would classify as abusive and therefore against site rules. In extreme cases it's also against the law to express racist or homophobic views and there are channels open for action there. Or if it's inherent and not entirely proveable then blocking is an option." The key though is distinguishing between what is a plain and simple preference and what is a preference grounded in bigotry - the former should just be accepted by all that are excluded by that preference without further question - the latter see above. It's is not illegal to racist or homophobic views, or any others, freedom of speech laws trump it. Only if you incite action against a group or individual or act on your views do you brake any laws. You could act and discriminate against those people and ban them, being just like them, or just ignore them like you would in the real world. If I'm not what some1 is looking for cos I like to keep my pubic hair, I move on. I don't take it personally and move on, not try and get them banned for discrimination . There wouldn't be many left if we all did that. " And that's precisely why I said "in extreme cases". I also fail to see why banning someone who is overtly racist, homophobic or even excessively abusive is a bad thing, and certainly not how it's discriminating against them? Yes you can ignore them but why should people like that be tolerated and allowed to remain IF their views are openly and abusively expressed? As for your last point there's a world of difference between being bigoted about someone's colour or sexuality and having a preference about their pubic topiary choice, so that argument holds absolutely no water!! | |||
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"Sometimes you’ll get messages back from people saying ‘sorry, you’re not my type’ or ‘I don’t think there’s an attraction’ and that is fine. But, the thing that bugs me is when some decide to message you back with rather vile and horrible language telling you how you shouldn’t be on a site like this and how dare you fuck ‘their’ white women. Some have even resorted to, if I see you in a club or at a social to watch your back. I’ve had all sorts. But, it’s all part of it though. And I love it that if bothers them so much that I’ve fucked their ‘white’ women. That’s why I don’t show my veris or friends list. They’re the ones who end up getting a backlash of messages from such people. " But thats a different issue ... that is genuinely racist and abusive and should be reported I dont think people are suggesting that people should just lie back and accept racial abuse ... we are just saying that while a stated preference and racist comments can overlap... its not always automatic that they are one and the same | |||
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"Why would you want to deal with people who's views differ from yours, why do you assume they are wrong and you are right, if people have a sexual preference not to play with any given group, it doesn't make them bigoted, it's thier choice, it's not up to you to police it. " It's just a question. I'm not trying to police anything. | |||
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"I think I've told you before OP, a friend of mine is gay and only likes fat guys He likens it to having to come out twice People are more aghast at him for liking fat than they are at him digging guys It's a strange old world we live in We've got past sexuality to a degree, so what can we demonise now ?" Maybe there should be a Pride for fat people. | |||
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"If a person didn't want to meet a whole group of people due to their size, skin colour, age, whatever reason- but it was due to hate for that group. What could be done about it? People on the preference threads have often said that not being sexually attracted to someone is ok. But if they don't want to fuck someone because they have an active dislike or hate for old/ young, or big/ slim, or white/ black people - how can that be dealt with?" Maybe we should force them to have sex with them against their will is that what you are suggesting? you seem to be half way there I must say and that's unplesent as what you are saying if not more so. | |||
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"If a person didn't want to meet a whole group of people due to their size, skin colour, age, whatever reason- but it was due to hate for that group. What could be done about it? People on the preference threads have often said that not being sexually attracted to someone is ok. But if they don't want to fuck someone because they have an active dislike or hate for old/ young, or big/ slim, or white/ black people - how can that be dealt with? Maybe we should force them to have sex with them against their will is that what you are suggesting? you seem to be half way there I must say and that's unplesent as what you are saying if not more so. " I'm not suggesting that at all. The OP is a question. My point is that (what you say) seems to be what other people infer on threads about preferences. Saying people are wrong for excluding entire groups of people, trying to shame them- but why? To encourage them to fuck people they don't fancy? | |||
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"Oh, and don't forget EVERYONE needs to be bisexual, coz if not, they're being sexist. Funny how we all accept that one ain't it, if you don't fancy the same sex nobody questions it, yet others are more difficult to grasp." Wise words | |||
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"Unless they are actively promoting hatred against that group, why would anything need to be done about it. People are still allowed their thoughts and feelings. Exactly this " Sorry nothing to do with this post but Jasus your pictures are amazing | |||
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"If a person didn't want to meet a whole group of people due to their size, skin colour, age, whatever reason- but it was due to hate for that group. What could be done about it? People on the preference threads have often said that not being sexually attracted to someone is ok. But if they don't want to fuck someone because they have an active dislike or hate for old/ young, or big/ slim, or white/ black people - how can that be dealt with? Maybe we should force them to have sex with them against their will is that what you are suggesting? you seem to be half way there I must say and that's unplesent as what you are saying if not more so. I'm not suggesting that at all. The OP is a question. My point is that (what you say) seems to be what other people infer on threads about preferences. Saying people are wrong for excluding entire groups of people, trying to shame them- but why? To encourage them to fuck people they don't fancy? " Who has said anyone is wrong? All that has been pointed out is that if you are excluding entire ethnicities from your shagging pool by definition that involves racism in that you are making a negative decision about people based purely on their ethnicity. What has also been said is that in something as personal as sex, people are fully entitled to operate on that basis. | |||
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"If a person didn't want to meet a whole group of people due to their size, skin colour, age, whatever reason- but it was due to hate for that group. What could be done about it? People on the preference threads have often said that not being sexually attracted to someone is ok. But if they don't want to fuck someone because they have an active dislike or hate for old/ young, or big/ slim, or white/ black people - how can that be dealt with? Maybe we should force them to have sex with them against their will is that what you are suggesting? you seem to be half way there I must say and that's unplesent as what you are saying if not more so. I'm not suggesting that at all. The OP is a question. My point is that (what you say) seems to be what other people infer on threads about preferences. Saying people are wrong for excluding entire groups of people, trying to shame them- but why? To encourage them to fuck people they don't fancy? Who has said anyone is wrong? All that has been pointed out is that if you are excluding entire ethnicities from your shagging pool by definition that involves racism in that you are making a negative decision about people based purely on their ethnicity. What has also been said is that in something as personal as sex, people are fully entitled to operate on that basis. " Some comments on other 'preference' threads have said excluding groups was wrong. | |||
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"This got me thinking about a recent experience. Had 3 or 4 conversations on the go at once, across a couple of websites, with a view to inviting one to my house for some hanky-panky. "Does your house have step-free access?" asked one of the guys. "Yes. Are you in a wheelchair?" I replied. Yes, he said. Well, I proceeded with the conversations and agreed to meet up with one them. Sent a message to the others, saying I had agreed to meet someone and maybe we could do another time. I got this torrent of abuse from the chap, about how prejudiced I must be about people with disabilities blah blah. I was quite shocked. So shocked by how bitter he seemed that I blocked him there and then. Did that make me a bigot? No, I did not think so. When it comes to sex, my preference is for an able-bodied man. " This is the kind of thing I'm thinking of. People like that sometimes use words such as bigot and prejudice, but why. Presumably so we'll feel bad and fuck them to prove we're not a prejudiced bigot. | |||
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"Oh not another one surely. Is there not a limit to how many racism threads can be started at any one time. And how many times people. And repeat the same arguments over and over again. " ...apparently not | |||
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"Oh not another one surely. Is there not a limit to how many racism threads can be started at any one time. And how many times people. And repeat the same arguments over and over again. ...apparently not" Let's change it what do you think of white privilege and how its still so predominant? The only thing I think that has changed now is that if there were 6 people went for a job, 2 white guys, a black man, a black woman, a very overweight white guy and a very overweight white woman and they all had equal qualities for the job then the 2 average white guys would come first, the fat white guy 3rd, then the black woman, then the black man then last of all would one the overweight white woman. So prejudice is changing but not necessarily for the better. | |||
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"Oh not another one surely. Is there not a limit to how many racism threads can be started at any one time. And how many times people. And repeat the same arguments over and over again. " No one is being forced to comment on them or to read them. If it's annoying you, you can always log off or start a thread on a completely different topic. | |||
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"Oh not another one surely. Is there not a limit to how many racism threads can be started at any one time. And how many times people. And repeat the same arguments over and over again. ...apparently not Let's change it what do you think of white privilege and how its still so predominant? The only thing I think that has changed now is that if there were 6 people went for a job, 2 white guys, a black man, a black woman, a very overweight white guy and a very overweight white woman and they all had equal qualities for the job then the 2 average white guys would come first, the fat white guy 3rd, then the black woman, then the black man then last of all would one the overweight white woman. So prejudice is changing but not necessarily for the better. " Instead of hijacking a thread, how about starting your own ! | |||
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"Oh not another one surely. Is there not a limit to how many racism threads can be started at any one time. And how many times people. And repeat the same arguments over and over again. ...apparently not Let's change it what do you think of white privilege and how its still so predominant? The only thing I think that has changed now is that if there were 6 people went for a job, 2 white guys, a black man, a black woman, a very overweight white guy and a very overweight white woman and they all had equal qualities for the job then the 2 average white guys would come first, the fat white guy 3rd, then the black woman, then the black man then last of all would one the overweight white woman. So prejudice is changing but not necessarily for the better. " Is that based on speculation or fact? | |||
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"Oh not another one surely. Is there not a limit to how many racism threads can be started at any one time. And how many times people. And repeat the same arguments over and over again. ...apparently not Let's change it what do you think of white privilege and how its still so predominant? The only thing I think that has changed now is that if there were 6 people went for a job, 2 white guys, a black man, a black woman, a very overweight white guy and a very overweight white woman and they all had equal qualities for the job then the 2 average white guys would come first, the fat white guy 3rd, then the black woman, then the black man then last of all would one the overweight white woman. So prejudice is changing but not necessarily for the better. Is that based on speculation or fact?" Experience and mainly speculation. | |||
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"Oh not another one surely. Is there not a limit to how many racism threads can be started at any one time. And how many times people. And repeat the same arguments over and over again. No one is being forced to comment on them or to read them. If it's annoying you, you can always log off or start a thread on a completely different topic. " Ahhh...the old 'turn a blind eye' tactic. Easier for some than others tho isn't it. | |||
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"Oh not another one surely. Is there not a limit to how many racism threads can be started at any one time. And how many times people. And repeat the same arguments over and over again. ...apparently not Let's change it what do you think of white privilege and how its still so predominant? The only thing I think that has changed now is that if there were 6 people went for a job, 2 white guys, a black man, a black woman, a very overweight white guy and a very overweight white woman and they all had equal qualities for the job then the 2 average white guys would come first, the fat white guy 3rd, then the black woman, then the black man then last of all would one the overweight white woman. So prejudice is changing but not necessarily for the better. Instead of hijacking a thread, how about starting your own ! " Sorry, did Tame Impala, poster of irrelvancies throughout the known universe actually just post that | |||
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"Oh not another one surely. Is there not a limit to how many racism threads can be started at any one time. And how many times people. And repeat the same arguments over and over again. No one is being forced to comment on them or to read them. If it's annoying you, you can always log off or start a thread on a completely different topic. " Thanks for the advice. You get irritated by plenty of topics, hav e you not thought about taking your own medicine? However this subject is constantly raising racial tension across the forum, achieves nothing and personal I'm amazed the site doesn't just blanket stop it. | |||
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"Oh not another one surely. Is there not a limit to how many racism threads can be started at any one time. And how many times people. And repeat the same arguments over and over again. No one is being forced to comment on them or to read them. If it's annoying you, you can always log off or start a thread on a completely different topic. Ahhh...the old 'turn a blind eye' tactic. Easier for some than others tho isn't it. " Don't make assumptions about me please. I didnt tell anyone to turn a blind eye to anything. | |||
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"Oh not another one surely. Is there not a limit to how many racism threads can be started at any one time. And how many times people. And repeat the same arguments over and over again. No one is being forced to comment on them or to read them. If it's annoying you, you can always log off or start a thread on a completely different topic. Thanks for the advice. You get irritated by plenty of topics, hav e you not thought about taking your own medicine?" Can you name them for me, seeing as you want to make it personal? | |||
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"Oh not another one surely. Is there not a limit to how many racism threads can be started at any one time. And how many times people. And repeat the same arguments over and over again. ...apparently not Let's change it what do you think of white privilege and how its still so predominant? The only thing I think that has changed now is that if there were 6 people went for a job, 2 white guys, a black man, a black woman, a very overweight white guy and a very overweight white woman and they all had equal qualities for the job then the 2 average white guys would come first, the fat white guy 3rd, then the black woman, then the black man then last of all would one the overweight white woman. So prejudice is changing but not necessarily for the better. Is that based on speculation or fact? Experience and mainly speculation. " Well I'm genuinely sorry that's your experience, but speculating is awfully subjective at times? Without doubt there's examples of prejudice rife within society, but how do we eradicate it? But mire importantly we focus too much on the identity of the victim as opposed to the behaviour of the offender? I don't believe examples like you gave, despite the context and good intention will be helpful in building bridges? I do get tired of being labelled too. | |||
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"Having a preference is totally acceptable. Your reasons for having those preferences is acceptable too. Yes, your preference may be racist but it's yours. For me it's the expressing those views openly in your profile that I have issue with. If you are excluding someone based on their genetics then you're not someone I want to know. I don't think comparing it to body size or TV/TS is right. Those are "choices" a person makes, skin colour isn't. " Most reasoned post on the endless 'preferences' debarcle. 'I won't meet blah blah' on a profile with regards to race is an instant no no for me. Arse hats. | |||
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"You can't help what turns you on sexually. I'm sure these people are more than happy to talk to those they don't get a boner or a wide on for. I don't think it's bigotry. You don't see the same "isms" when it comes to tv/cd yet you don't hear them crying trannyism, they just accept they don't "do it" for some. I was called an ugly whore racist yesterday because I responded to someone who wanted to fuck me like a sex slave and I responded in a manner to express my dislike for that being first communication. People need to stop being so fucking defensive and calling people whatever "ist" they feel fits, when in truth it's their shitty attitude that does them no favours. I agree!! Interesting point about tv/cd people. " I think all them women who don't like TVS should be shot...not bothered about the blokes | |||
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"Everyone can't do it for everyone, that's an unrealistic expectation. It only becomes bigotry of a person actively slags off others that don't meet their preferences. Blancmange makes me gag but i appreciate the fact that others may like it so that's just a preference, isn't it? " Blancmage makes me gag too! It’s gross. I’m blancmangist | |||
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"Oh not another one surely. Is there not a limit to how many racism threads can be started at any one time. And how many times people. And repeat the same arguments over and over again. ...apparently not Let's change it what do you think of white privilege and how its still so predominant? The only thing I think that has changed now is that if there were 6 people went for a job, 2 white guys, a black man, a black woman, a very overweight white guy and a very overweight white woman and they all had equal qualities for the job then the 2 average white guys would come first, the fat white guy 3rd, then the black woman, then the black man then last of all would one the overweight white woman. So prejudice is changing but not necessarily for the better. " What a load of rubbish, have you got any actual proof of this or do you just enjoy playing the hard done by victim? Your unproven statement just stirs up further racial hatred, because some bandwagon-jumping idiots will think it's true. It's not. | |||
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"Having a preference is totally acceptable. Your reasons for having those preferences is acceptable too. Yes, your preference may be racist but it's yours. For me it's the expressing those views openly in your profile that I have issue with. If you are excluding someone based on their genetics then you're not someone I want to know. I don't think comparing it to body size or TV/TS is right. Those are "choices" a person makes, skin colour isn't. Most reasoned post on the endless 'preferences' debarcle. 'I won't meet blah blah' on a profile with regards to race is an instant no no for me. Arse hats." Same,except i prefer the word asshats. | |||
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"Oh not another one surely. Is there not a limit to how many racism threads can be started at any one time. And how many times people. And repeat the same arguments over and over again. ...apparently not Let's change it what do you think of white privilege and how its still so predominant? The only thing I think that has changed now is that if there were 6 people went for a job, 2 white guys, a black man, a black woman, a very overweight white guy and a very overweight white woman and they all had equal qualities for the job then the 2 average white guys would come first, the fat white guy 3rd, then the black woman, then the black man then last of all would one the overweight white woman. So prejudice is changing but not necessarily for the better. Instead of hijacking a thread, how about starting your own ! Sorry, did Tame Impala, poster of irrelvancies throughout the known universe actually just post that " * irrelevancies You’re welcome ! Also you’re missing one Kind regards X | |||
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" And that's precisely why I said "in extreme cases". I also fail to see why banning someone who is overtly racist, homophobic or even excessively abusive is a bad thing, and certainly not how it's discriminating against them? Yes you can ignore them but why should people like that be tolerated and allowed to remain IF their views are openly and abusively expressed? As for your last point there's a world of difference between being bigoted about someone's colour or sexuality and having a preference about their pubic topiary choice, so that argument holds absolutely no water!!" Maybe I should have used an example like BBC as I don't qualify on 2 counts, but I don't call them racist or size-ist. I chose the example I did cos of an email I received accusing me of being from the hairy 70's with a mop of dirty hair akin to a dirty beard. They made 1st contact and just criticised my appearance . I wasn't agreeing with any racist or homophobic views, just saying to hold them isn't enough to kick them off, incitement or abuse are totally different, not wanted on a site like this. But to discriminate against some1 for views alone, or even just sexual preferences, is saying they don't have the right to those preferences. | |||
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"Oh not another one surely. Is there not a limit to how many racism threads can be started at any one time. And how many times people. And repeat the same arguments over and over again. ...apparently not Let's change it what do you think of white privilege and how its still so predominant? The only thing I think that has changed now is that if there were 6 people went for a job, 2 white guys, a black man, a black woman, a very overweight white guy and a very overweight white woman and they all had equal qualities for the job then the 2 average white guys would come first, the fat white guy 3rd, then the black woman, then the black man then last of all would one the overweight white woman. So prejudice is changing but not necessarily for the better. Is that based on speculation or fact? Experience and mainly speculation. Well I'm genuinely sorry that's your experience, but speculating is awfully subjective at times? Without doubt there's examples of prejudice rife within society, but how do we eradicate it? But mire importantly we focus too much on the identity of the victim as opposed to the behaviour of the offender? I don't believe examples like you gave, despite the context and good intention will be helpful in building bridges? I do get tired of being labelled too." Thank you, that is exactly the point we were trying to make, it's annoying and irritating.we have no desire whatsoever to talk about white privilege, Just making a point and got exactly the response I expected. Same as we don't want to livedaily with racism then have to read about it on supposedly fun forums.to be honest it is quite ridiculous, and why so many well intentioned white people utterly unaffected by it are so invested in it I have no idea. | |||
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"Oh not another one surely. Is there not a limit to how many racism threads can be started at any one time. And how many times people. And repeat the same arguments over and over again. ...apparently not Let's change it what do you think of white privilege and how its still so predominant? The only thing I think that has changed now is that if there were 6 people went for a job, 2 white guys, a black man, a black woman, a very overweight white guy and a very overweight white woman and they all had equal qualities for the job then the 2 average white guys would come first, the fat white guy 3rd, then the black woman, then the black man then last of all would one the overweight white woman. So prejudice is changing but not necessarily for the better. What a load of rubbish, have you got any actual proof of this or do you just enjoy playing the hard done by victim? Your unproven statement just stirs up further racial hatred, because some bandwagon-jumping idiots will think it's true. It's not." Funny how it's always 'those' White guys who always have to have proof huh & then flip it around to the black folk stirring up racial hatred. Hey...so where you been the last 400 odd years ?? | |||
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"Oh not another one surely. Is there not a limit to how many racism threads can be started at any one time. And how many times people. And repeat the same arguments over and over again. ...apparently not Let's change it what do you think of white privilege and how its still so predominant? The only thing I think that has changed now is that if there were 6 people went for a job, 2 white guys, a black man, a black woman, a very overweight white guy and a very overweight white woman and they all had equal qualities for the job then the 2 average white guys would come first, the fat white guy 3rd, then the black woman, then the black man then last of all would one the overweight white woman. So prejudice is changing but not necessarily for the better. Instead of hijacking a thread, how about starting your own ! Sorry, did Tame Impala, poster of irrelvancies throughout the known universe actually just post that * irrelevancies You’re welcome ! Also you’re missing one Kind regards X" I did spot that, but thought you'd work it out, wasn't worth a retype, lol. | |||
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"Oh not another one surely. Is there not a limit to how many racism threads can be started at any one time. And how many times people. And repeat the same arguments over and over again. ...apparently not Let's change it what do you think of white privilege and how its still so predominant? The only thing I think that has changed now is that if there were 6 people went for a job, 2 white guys, a black man, a black woman, a very overweight white guy and a very overweight white woman and they all had equal qualities for the job then the 2 average white guys would come first, the fat white guy 3rd, then the black woman, then the black man then last of all would one the overweight white woman. So prejudice is changing but not necessarily for the better. What a load of rubbish, have you got any actual proof of this or do you just enjoy playing the hard done by victim? Your unproven statement just stirs up further racial hatred, because some bandwagon-jumping idiots will think it's true. It's not." Utterly brilliant you fool, thanks for reacting 100% as expected and wanted. Post the same bollocks about white people that black people have to read on here all day every day and instantly all the closet racists and white people get triggered. No I have no proof at all. Just posted a deliberately annoying post to see how you like the situation being reversed. I guess not one little bit. So why don't all the white people that have no interest but love discussing it anyway just bloody drop it and talk about something they do know about. I can't stop laughing, could you actually have proved our point any better thanks him who forever onwards will be known as triggered man. Maybe change your profile name | |||
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" if they don't want to fuck someone because they have an active dislike or hate for old/ young, or big/ slim, or white/ black people - how can that be dealt with?" Do you want to make them fuck someone they don't want to? | |||
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