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"I hate this. I do think people who moan about another persons preference are doing it because they are bitter or they want to be that persons preference. That’s the only reason I can think of. Everyone has a preference of some sort, we are entitled to it. "  | |||
"Coz we all like a whinge and moan. " Yep I get that..I've been known to whinge myself at times... it seems certain preferences create more reaction than others though..  | |||
"I hate this. I do think people who moan about another persons preference are doing it because they are bitter or they want to be that persons preference. That’s the only reason I can think of. Everyone has a preference of some sort, we are entitled to it. " | |||
"Apparently, well reading the numerous threads that are started almost daily ..we're all allowed them... Can anyone give me a reason why does having certain preferences and stating them cause such a reaction amongst those that are excluded ?" I guess its kinda like a rejection in a roundabout way for some people .. u only like slim women ...bigger women get offended etc | |||
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"I hate this. I do think people who moan about another persons preference are doing it because they are bitter or they want to be that persons preference. That’s the only reason I can think of. Everyone has a preference of some sort, we are entitled to it. " | |||
"I hate this. I do think people who moan about another persons preference are doing it because they are bitter or they want to be that persons preference. That’s the only reason I can think of. Everyone has a preference of some sort, we are entitled to it. "It was said having a particular preference was narrow minded.. if you don't find others outside your preferences sexually attractive is that being narrow minded. | |||
"Apparently, well reading the numerous threads that are started almost daily ..we're all allowed them... Can anyone give me a reason why does having certain preferences and stating them cause such a reaction amongst those that are excluded ?" If you saw a pub with a sign outside that said "No blacks, no dogs, no irish", could you understand why it would piss off a black, Irish, dog walker? | |||
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"Apparently, well reading the numerous threads that are started almost daily ..we're all allowed them... Can anyone give me a reason why does having certain preferences and stating them cause such a reaction amongst those that are excluded ?" I am always surprised people get all keyboard commando to being excluded in one way or other as that's the way we all go through life. Nobody fits every category that life I can only assume some people take pleasure in trying to upset others and its pitiful. | |||
"Apparently, well reading the numerous threads that are started almost daily ..we're all allowed them... Can anyone give me a reason why does having certain preferences and stating them cause such a reaction amongst those that are excluded ? If you saw a pub with a sign outside that said "No blacks, no dogs, no irish", could you understand why it would piss off a black, Irish, dog walker? " Completely, however, if I’m correct in referencing the thread to which the OP refers, then none of these potentially incendiary parameters were referenced. | |||
"I hate this. I do think people who moan about another persons preference are doing it because they are bitter or they want to be that persons preference. That’s the only reason I can think of. Everyone has a preference of some sort, we are entitled to it.
It was said having a particular preference was narrow minded.. if you don't find others outside your preferences sexually attractive is that being narrow minded."I don’t believe it is narrow minded at all. But you’ll always get people who call others names when they don’t agree with them. Just leave them be! | |||
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"Apparently, well reading the numerous threads that are started almost daily ..we're all allowed them... Can anyone give me a reason why does having certain preferences and stating them cause such a reaction amongst those that are excluded ? If you saw a pub with a sign outside that said "No blacks, no dogs, no irish", could you understand why it would piss off a black, Irish, dog walker? " I'm not going to be having sex with a black Irish dog walker though..;-) | |||
"Apparently, well reading the numerous threads that are started almost daily ..we're all allowed them... Can anyone give me a reason why does having certain preferences and stating them cause such a reaction amongst those that are excluded ? If you saw a pub with a sign outside that said "No blacks, no dogs, no irish", could you understand why it would piss off a black, Irish, dog walker? Completely, however, if I’m correct in referencing the thread to which the OP refers, then none of these potentially incendiary parameters were referenced. " Which of these statements do you think would piss off more people? 1. I'm on fab hoping to meet a guy with a nice six pack and broad shoulders 2. Don't message me if you're a fat fuck who looks permanently pregnant with chins like tiers on a wedding cake | |||
"Apparently, well reading the numerous threads that are started almost daily ..we're all allowed them... Can anyone give me a reason why does having certain preferences and stating them cause such a reaction amongst those that are excluded ? If you saw a pub with a sign outside that said "No blacks, no dogs, no irish", could you understand why it would piss off a black, Irish, dog walker? Completely, however, if I’m correct in referencing the thread to which the OP refers, then none of these potentially incendiary parameters were referenced. Which of these statements do you think would piss off more people? 1. I'm on fab hoping to meet a guy with a nice six pack and broad shoulders 2. Don't message me if you're a fat fuck who looks permanently pregnant with chins like tiers on a wedding cake " If you’re looking to start an argument then I apologise in advance. Maybe I misunderstood your first response. The style of writing a profile is of course important to the reader. Maybe that’s why negative reactions come from those excluded. | |||
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"Apparently, well reading the numerous threads that are started almost daily ..we're all allowed them... Can anyone give me a reason why does having certain preferences and stating them cause such a reaction amongst those that are excluded ? If you saw a pub with a sign outside that said "No blacks, no dogs, no irish", could you understand why it would piss off a black, Irish, dog walker? " That's a very poor analogy though isn't it. Big difference from letting somebody stick their cock inside you najed to allowing them to have a drink at a bar fully dressed. So this argument just needs to be dropped it holds zero credibility. One is a personal experience the other common decency. | |||
"Apparently, well reading the numerous threads that are started almost daily ..we're all allowed them... Can anyone give me a reason why does having certain preferences and stating them cause such a reaction amongst those that are excluded ? If you saw a pub with a sign outside that said "No blacks, no dogs, no irish", could you understand why it would piss off a black, Irish, dog walker? Completely, however, if I’m correct in referencing the thread to which the OP refers, then none of these potentially incendiary parameters were referenced. Which of these statements do you think would piss off more people? 1. I'm on fab hoping to meet a guy with a nice six pack and broad shoulders 2. Don't message me if you're a fat fuck who looks permanently pregnant with chins like tiers on a wedding cake " Maybe people aren't here to worry about who they piss off. The only thing that matters in your two sentences are one is very specific and only one type included, the other only one type excluded. The first shows somebody fairly bothered about upsetting people, the second someone who doesn't care how they come across, but knows what they want. Then you decide on if you like that attitude or not. Maybe people should stop spending their lives looking for things to get offended about and worry why everybody else wants what they want and get on with having fun and doing what they want. | |||
"Apparently, well reading the numerous threads that are started almost daily ..we're all allowed them... Can anyone give me a reason why does having certain preferences and stating them cause such a reaction amongst those that are excluded ? If you saw a pub with a sign outside that said "No blacks, no dogs, no irish", could you understand why it would piss off a black, Irish, dog walker? That's a very poor analogy though isn't it. Big difference from letting somebody stick their cock inside you najed to allowing them to have a drink at a bar fully dressed. So this argument just needs to be dropped it holds zero credibility. One is a personal experience the other common decency. " Ok tell me a comparable analogy where it's totally cool to exclude people based on their race? | |||
"Apparently, well reading the numerous threads that are started almost daily ..we're all allowed them... Can anyone give me a reason why does having certain preferences and stating them cause such a reaction amongst those that are excluded ? If you saw a pub with a sign outside that said "No blacks, no dogs, no irish", could you understand why it would piss off a black, Irish, dog walker? That's a very poor analogy though isn't it. Big difference from letting somebody stick their cock inside you najed to allowing them to have a drink at a bar fully dressed. So this argument just needs to be dropped it holds zero credibility. One is a personal experience the other common decency. Ok tell me a comparable analogy where it's totally cool to exclude people based on their race? " There isn't. | |||
"Apparently, well reading the numerous threads that are started almost daily ..we're all allowed them... Can anyone give me a reason why does having certain preferences and stating them cause such a reaction amongst those that are excluded ? If you saw a pub with a sign outside that said "No blacks, no dogs, no irish", could you understand why it would piss off a black, Irish, dog walker? That's a very poor analogy though isn't it. Big difference from letting somebody stick their cock inside you najed to allowing them to have a drink at a bar fully dressed. So this argument just needs to be dropped it holds zero credibility. One is a personal experience the other common decency. Ok tell me a comparable analogy where it's totally cool to exclude people based on their race? " I hadn't mentioned what the preference was | |||
"Apparently, well reading the numerous threads that are started almost daily ..we're all allowed them... Can anyone give me a reason why does having certain preferences and stating them cause such a reaction amongst those that are excluded ? If you saw a pub with a sign outside that said "No blacks, no dogs, no irish", could you understand why it would piss off a black, Irish, dog walker? That's a very poor analogy though isn't it. Big difference from letting somebody stick their cock inside you najed to allowing them to have a drink at a bar fully dressed. So this argument just needs to be dropped it holds zero credibility. One is a personal experience the other common decency. Ok tell me a comparable analogy where it's totally cool to exclude people based on their race? " In the instance of people having a preference not to meet people of a certain race excluding them because of their race or because of a persons attraction preference? And there is a difference before you suggest it's the same thing - if someone said they aren't attracted to blonde haired blue eyed gym fit people then no-one would bat an eyelid, so what's the difference between that and saying you're not attracted to people with other physical features such as skin colour? Now of course if the underlying reason for that lack of attraction is based purely on bigotry of some form then it's another matter but if it's purely that you don't personally find someone of whatever type sexually attractive then I don't see an issue with it. Back to the OP though - a lot of the time people will moan because they feel excluded by a particular preference, which always makes me laugh as it suggests they have none of their own, which in turn suggests either they're not fussy, or are desperate or are lying - none of which would be particularly attractive. | |||
"Apparently, well reading the numerous threads that are started almost daily ..we're all allowed them... Can anyone give me a reason why does having certain preferences and stating them cause such a reaction amongst those that are excluded ? If you saw a pub with a sign outside that said "No blacks, no dogs, no irish", could you understand why it would piss off a black, Irish, dog walker? That's a very poor analogy though isn't it. Big difference from letting somebody stick their cock inside you najed to allowing them to have a drink at a bar fully dressed. So this argument just needs to be dropped it holds zero credibility. One is a personal experience the other common decency. Ok tell me a comparable analogy where it's totally cool to exclude people based on their race? In the instance of people having a preference not to meet people of a certain race excluding them because of their race or because of a persons attraction preference? And there is a difference before you suggest it's the same thing - if someone said they aren't attracted to blonde haired blue eyed gym fit people then no-one would bat an eyelid, so what's the difference between that and saying you're not attracted to people with other physical features such as skin colour? Now of course if the underlying reason for that lack of attraction is based purely on bigotry of some form then it's another matter but if it's purely that you don't personally find someone of whatever type sexually attractive then I don't see an issue with it. Back to the OP though - a lot of the time people will moan because they feel excluded by a particular preference, which always makes me laugh as it suggests they have none of their own, which in turn suggests either they're not fussy, or are desperate or are lying - none of which would be particularly attractive." I think you answered your own question. When it comes to body shape, we can explain where most preferences come from based on indirect signals of health and fitness for reproduction. Ultimately, you could say that a profile that says they won't meet women over size 16 is body shaming, or whatever the buzz word is. Since there's nothing our genes love more than diversity, I really struggle to think of the natural reason a skin colour would make someone find an otherwise attractive person, unattractive. Hence, I'm willing to bet the real reason is learned and psychological, not genetic or biologically based. It also helps when many people confirm this to you privately. | |||
"Apparently, well reading the numerous threads that are started almost daily ..we're all allowed them... Can anyone give me a reason why does having certain preferences and stating them cause such a reaction amongst those that are excluded ? If you saw a pub with a sign outside that said "No blacks, no dogs, no irish", could you understand why it would piss off a black, Irish, dog walker? That's a very poor analogy though isn't it. Big difference from letting somebody stick their cock inside you najed to allowing them to have a drink at a bar fully dressed. So this argument just needs to be dropped it holds zero credibility. One is a personal experience the other common decency. Ok tell me a comparable analogy where it's totally cool to exclude people based on their race? In the instance of people having a preference not to meet people of a certain race excluding them because of their race or because of a persons attraction preference? And there is a difference before you suggest it's the same thing - if someone said they aren't attracted to blonde haired blue eyed gym fit people then no-one would bat an eyelid, so what's the difference between that and saying you're not attracted to people with other physical features such as skin colour? Now of course if the underlying reason for that lack of attraction is based purely on bigotry of some form then it's another matter but if it's purely that you don't personally find someone of whatever type sexually attractive then I don't see an issue with it. Back to the OP though - a lot of the time people will moan because they feel excluded by a particular preference, which always makes me laugh as it suggests they have none of their own, which in turn suggests either they're not fussy, or are desperate or are lying - none of which would be particularly attractive. I think you answered your own question. When it comes to body shape, we can explain where most preferences come from based on indirect signals of health and fitness for reproduction. Ultimately, you could say that a profile that says they won't meet women over size 16 is body shaming, or whatever the buzz word is. Since there's nothing our genes love more than diversity, I really struggle to think of the natural reason a skin colour would make someone find an otherwise attractive person, unattractive. Hence, I'm willing to bet the real reason is learned and psychological, not genetic or biologically based. It also helps when many people confirm this to you privately. " Not all attraction, in fact I'd wager barely any, is completely natural though - it's informed by many experiences as we go through life and so to a greater extent is learned - regardless of whether that be a preference for redheads, black people or those of a larger build - it doesn't necessarily make you racist just because you have a preference not to meet or be attracted to a certain race. Same with any other of the myriad preferences that abound on here - whether that be to not meet bi males, wanting to find a Dominant or a submissive person they're preferences plain and simple. And it's clear that bemoaning someone else's preferences is pointless, unless of course that person has hateful reasons for expressing them in which case they bear further scrutiny and reproach but where it's simply a preference that excludes someone because they don't meet that preference then there is nothing more to be said other than "move onto a profile that doesn't exclude you" | |||
"Apparently, well reading the numerous threads that are started almost daily ..we're all allowed them... Can anyone give me a reason why does having certain preferences and stating them cause such a reaction amongst those that are excluded ?" People try and convince themselves it's peoples preferences as to why they don't get a meet. It's got nothing to do with their shit profile or one line messages. I can't get a meet because couples don't meet singles guys (many do). I can't get a meet because women only want guys with a 10 inch cock (not true). I can't get a meet because I am a bi guy (many bi couples are looking for bi guys). I can't get meet because I am Asian/Indian (many women and couples meet Asian/Indian men). I can't get a meet because women are only looking for guys over 6 foot (not all women want tall guys) I can't get a meet because I am a nice guy (Bullshit. Women and couples don't want nasty horrible guys). Etc. | |||
"Apparently, well reading the numerous threads that are started almost daily ..we're all allowed them... Can anyone give me a reason why does having certain preferences and stating them cause such a reaction amongst those that are excluded ? If you saw a pub with a sign outside that said "No blacks, no dogs, no irish", could you understand why it would piss off a black, Irish, dog walker? Completely, however, if I’m correct in referencing the thread to which the OP refers, then none of these potentially incendiary parameters were referenced. Which of these statements do you think would piss off more people? 1. I'm on fab hoping to meet a guy with a nice six pack and broad shoulders 2. Don't message me if you're a fat fuck who looks permanently pregnant with chins like tiers on a wedding cake " I totally agree with you. There is a way to say things. Some people come across as really horrible and nasty on their profiles. I could put on my profile I prefer to meet women who are sized 12 - 16 or I could put I am not into fat people. A woman could put I prefer big cocked guys or no maggot dicks. There is no need to insult the people you don't want to meet. | |||
"Apparently, well reading the numerous threads that are started almost daily ..we're all allowed them... Can anyone give me a reason why does having certain preferences and stating them cause such a reaction amongst those that are excluded ? If you saw a pub with a sign outside that said "No blacks, no dogs, no irish", could you understand why it would piss off a black, Irish, dog walker? That's a very poor analogy though isn't it. Big difference from letting somebody stick their cock inside you najed to allowing them to have a drink at a bar fully dressed. So this argument just needs to be dropped it holds zero credibility. One is a personal experience the other common decency. Ok tell me a comparable analogy where it's totally cool to exclude people based on their race? In the instance of people having a preference not to meet people of a certain race excluding them because of their race or because of a persons attraction preference? And there is a difference before you suggest it's the same thing - if someone said they aren't attracted to blonde haired blue eyed gym fit people then no-one would bat an eyelid, so what's the difference between that and saying you're not attracted to people with other physical features such as skin colour? Now of course if the underlying reason for that lack of attraction is based purely on bigotry of some form then it's another matter but if it's purely that you don't personally find someone of whatever type sexually attractive then I don't see an issue with it. Back to the OP though - a lot of the time people will moan because they feel excluded by a particular preference, which always makes me laugh as it suggests they have none of their own, which in turn suggests either they're not fussy, or are desperate or are lying - none of which would be particularly attractive. I think you answered your own question. When it comes to body shape, we can explain where most preferences come from based on indirect signals of health and fitness for reproduction. Ultimately, you could say that a profile that says they won't meet women over size 16 is body shaming, or whatever the buzz word is. Since there's nothing our genes love more than diversity, I really struggle to think of the natural reason a skin colour would make someone find an otherwise attractive person, unattractive. Hence, I'm willing to bet the real reason is learned and psychological, not genetic or biologically based. It also helps when many people confirm this to you privately. " So the fact that I prefer non white females for both sex and relationship makes me a racist does it. Seriously you don't have a clue what you're talking about. The most important people in my life are my mum and daughter and my wife. My best friend is white, my best man at my upcoming wedding is a white woman. My preference for sex and relationship is my black partner. Please analyse that with your normal level of nonsense and explain to me how my sexual preference makes me a racist? Doesn't fit very well into your left wing PC ethos does it? If I preferred natural blondes or brunettes or women with big or small boobs you're OK with that but not if it's because of their skin colour. Thats because you are absolute the worst of the Liberal left. You are petrified of offending some poor little defenceless black person with a dose of reality. You actually don't understand what preference is because you have been so indoctrinated with the PC bollocks that you genuinely can't see past doing the white person's so called right thing. Saying you don't want to have sex with a black person or white person is exactly the same as saying you don't want to have sex with somebody because they have fake boobs, blonde hair, etc. And until you realise and accept that then you are political correctness gone wrong. The same sort of person that brings this current generation of kids up to believe that they can't lose, that if they cry on sports day then they get to run a race on their own so they can win. Sometimes you just aren't the right fit at something for various reasons and if it's race or hair colour it is exactly the same thing. If the cause is bigotry and exclusion due to disliking people because of their race then it is utterly disgusting if it is just a preference because you prefer th look of that person and that is what turns you on then I feel terribly sorry for you that you can't see the difference. | |||
"Apparently, well reading the numerous threads that are started almost daily ..we're all allowed them... Can anyone give me a reason why does having certain preferences and stating them cause such a reaction amongst those that are excluded ? If you saw a pub with a sign outside that said "No blacks, no dogs, no irish", could you understand why it would piss off a black, Irish, dog walker? That's a very poor analogy though isn't it. Big difference from letting somebody stick their cock inside you najed to allowing them to have a drink at a bar fully dressed. So this argument just needs to be dropped it holds zero credibility. One is a personal experience the other common decency. Ok tell me a comparable analogy where it's totally cool to exclude people based on their race? In the instance of people having a preference not to meet people of a certain race excluding them because of their race or because of a persons attraction preference? And there is a difference before you suggest it's the same thing - if someone said they aren't attracted to blonde haired blue eyed gym fit people then no-one would bat an eyelid, so what's the difference between that and saying you're not attracted to people with other physical features such as skin colour? Now of course if the underlying reason for that lack of attraction is based purely on bigotry of some form then it's another matter but if it's purely that you don't personally find someone of whatever type sexually attractive then I don't see an issue with it. Back to the OP though - a lot of the time people will moan because they feel excluded by a particular preference, which always makes me laugh as it suggests they have none of their own, which in turn suggests either they're not fussy, or are desperate or are lying - none of which would be particularly attractive. I think you answered your own question. When it comes to body shape, we can explain where most preferences come from based on indirect signals of health and fitness for reproduction. Ultimately, you could say that a profile that says they won't meet women over size 16 is body shaming, or whatever the buzz word is. Since there's nothing our genes love more than diversity, I really struggle to think of the natural reason a skin colour would make someone find an otherwise attractive person, unattractive. Hence, I'm willing to bet the real reason is learned and psychological, not genetic or biologically based. It also helps when many people confirm this to you privately. Not all attraction, in fact I'd wager barely any, is completely natural though - it's informed by many experiences as we go through life and so to a greater extent is learned - regardless of whether that be a preference for redheads, black people or those of a larger build - it doesn't necessarily make you racist just because you have a preference not to meet or be attracted to a certain race. Same with any other of the myriad preferences that abound on here - whether that be to not meet bi males, wanting to find a Dominant or a submissive person they're preferences plain and simple. And it's clear that bemoaning someone else's preferences is pointless, unless of course that person has hateful reasons for expressing them in which case they bear further scrutiny and reproach but where it's simply a preference that excludes someone because they don't meet that preference then there is nothing more to be said other than "move onto a profile that doesn't exclude you"" And that is the whole point that every one of these incredibly irritating threads never accepts. If the reason to exclude is hate it's 100% wrong, if it's just a preference then grow up and get over it. | |||
"Apparently, well reading the numerous threads that are started almost daily ..we're all allowed them... Can anyone give me a reason why does having certain preferences and stating them cause such a reaction amongst those that are excluded ? If you saw a pub with a sign outside that said "No blacks, no dogs, no irish", could you understand why it would piss off a black, Irish, dog walker? That's a very poor analogy though isn't it. Big difference from letting somebody stick their cock inside you najed to allowing them to have a drink at a bar fully dressed. So this argument just needs to be dropped it holds zero credibility. One is a personal experience the other common decency. Ok tell me a comparable analogy where it's totally cool to exclude people based on their race? In the instance of people having a preference not to meet people of a certain race excluding them because of their race or because of a persons attraction preference? And there is a difference before you suggest it's the same thing - if someone said they aren't attracted to blonde haired blue eyed gym fit people then no-one would bat an eyelid, so what's the difference between that and saying you're not attracted to people with other physical features such as skin colour? Now of course if the underlying reason for that lack of attraction is based purely on bigotry of some form then it's another matter but if it's purely that you don't personally find someone of whatever type sexually attractive then I don't see an issue with it. Back to the OP though - a lot of the time people will moan because they feel excluded by a particular preference, which always makes me laugh as it suggests they have none of their own, which in turn suggests either they're not fussy, or are desperate or are lying - none of which would be particularly attractive. I think you answered your own question. When it comes to body shape, we can explain where most preferences come from based on indirect signals of health and fitness for reproduction. Ultimately, you could say that a profile that says they won't meet women over size 16 is body shaming, or whatever the buzz word is. Since there's nothing our genes love more than diversity, I really struggle to think of the natural reason a skin colour would make someone find an otherwise attractive person, unattractive. Hence, I'm willing to bet the real reason is learned and psychological, not genetic or biologically based. It also helps when many people confirm this to you privately. Not all attraction, in fact I'd wager barely any, is completely natural though - it's informed by many experiences as we go through life and so to a greater extent is learned - regardless of whether that be a preference for redheads, black people or those of a larger build - it doesn't necessarily make you racist just because you have a preference not to meet or be attracted to a certain race. Same with any other of the myriad preferences that abound on here - whether that be to not meet bi males, wanting to find a Dominant or a submissive person they're preferences plain and simple. And it's clear that bemoaning someone else's preferences is pointless, unless of course that person has hateful reasons for expressing them in which case they bear further scrutiny and reproach but where it's simply a preference that excludes someone because they don't meet that preference then there is nothing more to be said other than "move onto a profile that doesn't exclude you" And that is the whole point that every one of these incredibly irritating threads never accepts. If the reason to exclude is hate it's 100% wrong, if it's just a preference then grow up and get over it. " If the 'preference' was 100% hate and racism, what could be done about it? | |||
"Apparently, well reading the numerous threads that are started almost daily ..we're all allowed them... Can anyone give me a reason why does having certain preferences and stating them cause such a reaction amongst those that are excluded ? If you saw a pub with a sign outside that said "No blacks, no dogs, no irish", could you understand why it would piss off a black, Irish, dog walker? Completely, however, if I’m correct in referencing the thread to which the OP refers, then none of these potentially incendiary parameters were referenced. Which of these statements do you think would piss off more people? 1. I'm on fab hoping to meet a guy with a nice six pack and broad shoulders 2. Don't message me if you're a fat fuck who looks permanently pregnant with chins like tiers on a wedding cake I totally agree with you. There is a way to say things. Some people come across as really horrible and nasty on their profiles. I could put on my profile I prefer to meet women who are sized 12 - 16 or I could put I am not into fat people. A woman could put I prefer big cocked guys or no maggot dicks. There is no need to insult the people you don't want to meet. " | |||
" If the 'preference' was 100% hate and racism, what could be done about it?" Well if it is obvious that bigotry is behind the preference and it's expressed openly and consistently then reporting the profile would be a good first step as I'm sure it would classify as abusive and therefore against site rules. In extreme cases it's also against the law to express racist or homophobic views and there are channels open for action there. Or if it's inherent and not entirely proveable then blocking is an option. | |||
"I hate this. I do think people who moan about another persons preference are doing it because they are bitter or they want to be that persons preference. That’s the only reason I can think of. Everyone has a preference of some sort, we are entitled to it. " About sums it up, couldn’t have put it better | |||
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" If the 'preference' was 100% hate and racism, what could be done about it? Well if it is obvious that bigotry is behind the preference and it's expressed openly and consistently then reporting the profile would be a good first step as I'm sure it would classify as abusive and therefore against site rules. In extreme cases it's also against the law to express racist or homophobic views and there are channels open for action there. Or if it's inherent and not entirely proveable then blocking is an option." I do understand that abuse should be reported but if it said "no xyz because there's no fucking way I'd meet you!!!!" that can't really be reported. Good point on blocking. | |||
" If the 'preference' was 100% hate and racism, what could be done about it? Well if it is obvious that bigotry is behind the preference and it's expressed openly and consistently then reporting the profile would be a good first step as I'm sure it would classify as abusive and therefore against site rules. In extreme cases it's also against the law to express racist or homophobic views and there are channels open for action there. Or if it's inherent and not entirely proveable then blocking is an option. I do understand that abuse should be reported but if it said "no xyz because there's no fucking way I'd meet you!!!!" that can't really be reported. Good point on blocking. " Well that wouldn't really be "obvious" bigotry would it? Unless it said "There's no fucking way I'd meet you because you're black/Bi etc and I hate all people of that type because they're filthy and disease ridden and taking all my meets" | |||
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"Apparently, well reading the numerous threads that are started almost daily ..we're all allowed them... Can anyone give me a reason why does having certain preferences and stating them cause such a reaction amongst those that are excluded ? If you saw a pub with a sign outside that said "No blacks, no dogs, no irish", could you understand why it would piss off a black, Irish, dog walker? That's a very poor analogy though isn't it. Big difference from letting somebody stick their cock inside you najed to allowing them to have a drink at a bar fully dressed. So this argument just needs to be dropped it holds zero credibility. One is a personal experience the other common decency. Ok tell me a comparable analogy where it's totally cool to exclude people based on their race? In the instance of people having a preference not to meet people of a certain race excluding them because of their race or because of a persons attraction preference? And there is a difference before you suggest it's the same thing - if someone said they aren't attracted to blonde haired blue eyed gym fit people then no-one would bat an eyelid, so what's the difference between that and saying you're not attracted to people with other physical features such as skin colour? Now of course if the underlying reason for that lack of attraction is based purely on bigotry of some form then it's another matter but if it's purely that you don't personally find someone of whatever type sexually attractive then I don't see an issue with it. Back to the OP though - a lot of the time people will moan because they feel excluded by a particular preference, which always makes me laugh as it suggests they have none of their own, which in turn suggests either they're not fussy, or are desperate or are lying - none of which would be particularly attractive. I think you answered your own question. When it comes to body shape, we can explain where most preferences come from based on indirect signals of health and fitness for reproduction. Ultimately, you could say that a profile that says they won't meet women over size 16 is body shaming, or whatever the buzz word is. Since there's nothing our genes love more than diversity, I really struggle to think of the natural reason a skin colour would make someone find an otherwise attractive person, unattractive. Hence, I'm willing to bet the real reason is learned and psychological, not genetic or biologically based. It also helps when many people confirm this to you privately. So the fact that I prefer non white females for both sex and relationship makes me a racist does it. Seriously you don't have a clue what you're talking about. The most important people in my life are my mum and daughter and my wife. My best friend is white, my best man at my upcoming wedding is a white woman. My preference for sex and relationship is my black partner. Please analyse that with your normal level of nonsense and explain to me how my sexual preference makes me a racist? Doesn't fit very well into your left wing PC ethos does it? If I preferred natural blondes or brunettes or women with big or small boobs you're OK with that but not if it's because of their skin colour. Thats because you are absolute the worst of the Liberal left. You are petrified of offending some poor little defenceless black person with a dose of reality. You actually don't understand what preference is because you have been so indoctrinated with the PC bollocks that you genuinely can't see past doing the white person's so called right thing. Saying you don't want to have sex with a black person or white person is exactly the same as saying you don't want to have sex with somebody because they have fake boobs, blonde hair, etc. And until you realise and accept that then you are political correctness gone wrong. The same sort of person that brings this current generation of kids up to believe that they can't lose, that if they cry on sports day then they get to run a race on their own so they can win. Sometimes you just aren't the right fit at something for various reasons and if it's race or hair colour it is exactly the same thing. If the cause is bigotry and exclusion due to disliking people because of their race then it is utterly disgusting if it is just a preference because you prefer th look of that person and that is what turns you on then I feel terribly sorry for you that you can't see the difference. " As much as is made me chuckle to be called left, I'll cherish this one, I was wondering if you could actually answer my question and give me a comparable analogy where it's totally cool to exclude people based on their race? | |||
"Apparently, well reading the numerous threads that are started almost daily ..we're all allowed them... Can anyone give me a reason why does having certain preferences and stating them cause such a reaction amongst those that are excluded ? If you saw a pub with a sign outside that said "No blacks, no dogs, no irish", could you understand why it would piss off a black, Irish, dog walker? That's a very poor analogy though isn't it. Big difference from letting somebody stick their cock inside you najed to allowing them to have a drink at a bar fully dressed. So this argument just needs to be dropped it holds zero credibility. One is a personal experience the other common decency. Ok tell me a comparable analogy where it's totally cool to exclude people based on their race? In the instance of people having a preference not to meet people of a certain race excluding them because of their race or because of a persons attraction preference? And there is a difference before you suggest it's the same thing - if someone said they aren't attracted to blonde haired blue eyed gym fit people then no-one would bat an eyelid, so what's the difference between that and saying you're not attracted to people with other physical features such as skin colour? Now of course if the underlying reason for that lack of attraction is based purely on bigotry of some form then it's another matter but if it's purely that you don't personally find someone of whatever type sexually attractive then I don't see an issue with it. Back to the OP though - a lot of the time people will moan because they feel excluded by a particular preference, which always makes me laugh as it suggests they have none of their own, which in turn suggests either they're not fussy, or are desperate or are lying - none of which would be particularly attractive. I think you answered your own question. When it comes to body shape, we can explain where most preferences come from based on indirect signals of health and fitness for reproduction. Ultimately, you could say that a profile that says they won't meet women over size 16 is body shaming, or whatever the buzz word is. Since there's nothing our genes love more than diversity, I really struggle to think of the natural reason a skin colour would make someone find an otherwise attractive person, unattractive. Hence, I'm willing to bet the real reason is learned and psychological, not genetic or biologically based. It also helps when many people confirm this to you privately. So the fact that I prefer non white females for both sex and relationship makes me a racist does it. Seriously you don't have a clue what you're talking about. The most important people in my life are my mum and daughter and my wife. My best friend is white, my best man at my upcoming wedding is a white woman. My preference for sex and relationship is my black partner. Please analyse that with your normal level of nonsense and explain to me how my sexual preference makes me a racist? Doesn't fit very well into your left wing PC ethos does it? If I preferred natural blondes or brunettes or women with big or small boobs you're OK with that but not if it's because of their skin colour. Thats because you are absolute the worst of the Liberal left. You are petrified of offending some poor little defenceless black person with a dose of reality. You actually don't understand what preference is because you have been so indoctrinated with the PC bollocks that you genuinely can't see past doing the white person's so called right thing. Saying you don't want to have sex with a black person or white person is exactly the same as saying you don't want to have sex with somebody because they have fake boobs, blonde hair, etc. And until you realise and accept that then you are political correctness gone wrong. The same sort of person that brings this current generation of kids up to believe that they can't lose, that if they cry on sports day then they get to run a race on their own so they can win. Sometimes you just aren't the right fit at something for various reasons and if it's race or hair colour it is exactly the same thing. If the cause is bigotry and exclusion due to disliking people because of their race then it is utterly disgusting if it is just a preference because you prefer th look of that person and that is what turns you on then I feel terribly sorry for you that you can't see the difference. As much as is made me chuckle to be called left, I'll cherish this one, I was wondering if you could actually answer my question and give me a comparable analogy where it's totally cool to exclude people based on their race?" There isn't one. Excluding people on the basis of their ethnicity from your pool of potential sexual partners is racist (in the sense that you are making a blanket negative judgment about a class of people based on their ethnicity#) but that's fine because we are all entitled to complete personal autonomy when it comes to who we have sex with. # I anticipate the objection (not from you) . "I don't make a blanket negative judgment, I just don't fancy people of ethnicity x", but I don't think that flies. Someone might say he wouldn't employ black people because he never gets on with them. Even if he were being honest, we'd still say he was being racist | |||
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"Apparently, well reading the numerous threads that are started almost daily ..we're all allowed them... Can anyone give me a reason why does having certain preferences and stating them cause such a reaction amongst those that are excluded ? If you saw a pub with a sign outside that said "No blacks, no dogs, no irish", could you understand why it would piss off a black, Irish, dog walker? That's a very poor analogy though isn't it. Big difference from letting somebody stick their cock inside you najed to allowing them to have a drink at a bar fully dressed. So this argument just needs to be dropped it holds zero credibility. One is a personal experience the other common decency. Ok tell me a comparable analogy where it's totally cool to exclude people based on their race? In the instance of people having a preference not to meet people of a certain race excluding them because of their race or because of a persons attraction preference? And there is a difference before you suggest it's the same thing - if someone said they aren't attracted to blonde haired blue eyed gym fit people then no-one would bat an eyelid, so what's the difference between that and saying you're not attracted to people with other physical features such as skin colour? Now of course if the underlying reason for that lack of attraction is based purely on bigotry of some form then it's another matter but if it's purely that you don't personally find someone of whatever type sexually attractive then I don't see an issue with it. Back to the OP though - a lot of the time people will moan because they feel excluded by a particular preference, which always makes me laugh as it suggests they have none of their own, which in turn suggests either they're not fussy, or are desperate or are lying - none of which would be particularly attractive. I think you answered your own question. When it comes to body shape, we can explain where most preferences come from based on indirect signals of health and fitness for reproduction. Ultimately, you could say that a profile that says they won't meet women over size 16 is body shaming, or whatever the buzz word is. Since there's nothing our genes love more than diversity, I really struggle to think of the natural reason a skin colour would make someone find an otherwise attractive person, unattractive. Hence, I'm willing to bet the real reason is learned and psychological, not genetic or biologically based. It also helps when many people confirm this to you privately. So the fact that I prefer non white females for both sex and relationship makes me a racist does it. Seriously you don't have a clue what you're talking about. The most important people in my life are my mum and daughter and my wife. My best friend is white, my best man at my upcoming wedding is a white woman. My preference for sex and relationship is my black partner. Please analyse that with your normal level of nonsense and explain to me how my sexual preference makes me a racist? Doesn't fit very well into your left wing PC ethos does it? If I preferred natural blondes or brunettes or women with big or small boobs you're OK with that but not if it's because of their skin colour. Thats because you are absolute the worst of the Liberal left. You are petrified of offending some poor little defenceless black person with a dose of reality. You actually don't understand what preference is because you have been so indoctrinated with the PC bollocks that you genuinely can't see past doing the white person's so called right thing. Saying you don't want to have sex with a black person or white person is exactly the same as saying you don't want to have sex with somebody because they have fake boobs, blonde hair, etc. And until you realise and accept that then you are political correctness gone wrong. The same sort of person that brings this current generation of kids up to believe that they can't lose, that if they cry on sports day then they get to run a race on their own so they can win. Sometimes you just aren't the right fit at something for various reasons and if it's race or hair colour it is exactly the same thing. If the cause is bigotry and exclusion due to disliking people because of their race then it is utterly disgusting if it is just a preference because you prefer th look of that person and that is what turns you on then I feel terribly sorry for you that you can't see the difference. As much as is made me chuckle to be called left, I'll cherish this one, I was wondering if you could actually answer my question and give me a comparable analogy where it's totally cool to exclude people based on their race? There isn't one. Excluding people on the basis of their ethnicity from your pool of potential sexual partners is racist (in the sense that you are making a blanket negative judgment about a class of people based on their ethnicity#) but that's fine because we are all entitled to complete personal autonomy when it comes to who we have sex with. # I anticipate the objection (not from you) . "I don't make a blanket negative judgment, I just don't fancy people of ethnicity x", but I don't think that flies. Someone might say he wouldn't employ black people because he never gets on with them. Even if he were being honest, we'd still say he was being racist " I'm on the left now too comrade, when's my welcoming party? Why is it so hard for people to admit they have some racist preferences? I certainly do. The level of cognitive dissonance require to believe you could go through life and not pick any up is overwhelmingly me. | |||
"Apparently, well reading the numerous threads that are started almost daily ..we're all allowed them... Can anyone give me a reason why does having certain preferences and stating them cause such a reaction amongst those that are excluded ? If you saw a pub with a sign outside that said "No blacks, no dogs, no irish", could you understand why it would piss off a black, Irish, dog walker? That's a very poor analogy though isn't it. Big difference from letting somebody stick their cock inside you najed to allowing them to have a drink at a bar fully dressed. So this argument just needs to be dropped it holds zero credibility. One is a personal experience the other common decency. Ok tell me a comparable analogy where it's totally cool to exclude people based on their race? In the instance of people having a preference not to meet people of a certain race excluding them because of their race or because of a persons attraction preference? And there is a difference before you suggest it's the same thing - if someone said they aren't attracted to blonde haired blue eyed gym fit people then no-one would bat an eyelid, so what's the difference between that and saying you're not attracted to people with other physical features such as skin colour? Now of course if the underlying reason for that lack of attraction is based purely on bigotry of some form then it's another matter but if it's purely that you don't personally find someone of whatever type sexually attractive then I don't see an issue with it. Back to the OP though - a lot of the time people will moan because they feel excluded by a particular preference, which always makes me laugh as it suggests they have none of their own, which in turn suggests either they're not fussy, or are desperate or are lying - none of which would be particularly attractive. I think you answered your own question. When it comes to body shape, we can explain where most preferences come from based on indirect signals of health and fitness for reproduction. Ultimately, you could say that a profile that says they won't meet women over size 16 is body shaming, or whatever the buzz word is. Since there's nothing our genes love more than diversity, I really struggle to think of the natural reason a skin colour would make someone find an otherwise attractive person, unattractive. Hence, I'm willing to bet the real reason is learned and psychological, not genetic or biologically based. It also helps when many people confirm this to you privately. So the fact that I prefer non white females for both sex and relationship makes me a racist does it. Seriously you don't have a clue what you're talking about. The most important people in my life are my mum and daughter and my wife. My best friend is white, my best man at my upcoming wedding is a white woman. My preference for sex and relationship is my black partner. Please analyse that with your normal level of nonsense and explain to me how my sexual preference makes me a racist? Doesn't fit very well into your left wing PC ethos does it? If I preferred natural blondes or brunettes or women with big or small boobs you're OK with that but not if it's because of their skin colour. Thats because you are absolute the worst of the Liberal left. You are petrified of offending some poor little defenceless black person with a dose of reality. You actually don't understand what preference is because you have been so indoctrinated with the PC bollocks that you genuinely can't see past doing the white person's so called right thing. Saying you don't want to have sex with a black person or white person is exactly the same as saying you don't want to have sex with somebody because they have fake boobs, blonde hair, etc. And until you realise and accept that then you are political correctness gone wrong. The same sort of person that brings this current generation of kids up to believe that they can't lose, that if they cry on sports day then they get to run a race on their own so they can win. Sometimes you just aren't the right fit at something for various reasons and if it's race or hair colour it is exactly the same thing. If the cause is bigotry and exclusion due to disliking people because of their race then it is utterly disgusting if it is just a preference because you prefer th look of that person and that is what turns you on then I feel terribly sorry for you that you can't see the difference. As much as is made me chuckle to be called left, I'll cherish this one, I was wondering if you could actually answer my question and give me a comparable analogy where it's totally cool to exclude people based on their race? There isn't one. Excluding people on the basis of their ethnicity from your pool of potential sexual partners is racist (in the sense that you are making a blanket negative judgment about a class of people based on their ethnicity#) but that's fine because we are all entitled to complete personal autonomy when it comes to who we have sex with. # I anticipate the objection (not from you) . "I don't make a blanket negative judgment, I just don't fancy people of ethnicity x", but I don't think that flies. Someone might say he wouldn't employ black people because he never gets on with them. Even if he were being honest, we'd still say he was being racist I'm on the left now too comrade, when's my welcoming party? Why is it so hard for people to admit they have some racist preferences? I certainly do. The level of cognitive dissonance require to believe you could go through life and not pick any up is overwhelmingly me. " It's because "racism" is the modern day sin against the holy ghost so people will react very strongly if you accuse them of it. . Which is actually a good thing in many ways as it shows how socially unacceptable racism now is We need to distinguish between bad racism (not offering a black people jobs) and acceptable racism (I only fuck white people). People doing it on here by labelling acceptable racism as "preference". As you have said, it's also about politeness. Your private view may be that you never fuck black people because you think they are all ugly. Only an arse would articulate that. | |||
"Apparently, well reading the numerous threads that are started almost daily ..we're all allowed them... Can anyone give me a reason why does having certain preferences and stating them cause such a reaction amongst those that are excluded ?" do you like being left out? Do you like being singled out then left out? Do you like being left out at night? | |||
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"We have preferences in every other area of our life, from our breakfast cereal to which car we drive. Why some folk can't grasp that the same applies to sex is beyond me. " I prefer coco pops to cornflakes because cornflakes are disgusting. I prefer having sex with black people because white people are disgusting. See the difference? | |||
"We have preferences in every other area of our life, from our breakfast cereal to which car we drive. Why some folk can't grasp that the same applies to sex is beyond me. " the problem is saying it out loud really | |||
"We have preferences in every other area of our life, from our breakfast cereal to which car we drive. Why some folk can't grasp that the same applies to sex is beyond me. the problem is saying it out loud really " I fucking hate Weetabix! Aaaahhh, feel so much better now  | |||
"We have preferences in every other area of our life, from our breakfast cereal to which car we drive. Why some folk can't grasp that the same applies to sex is beyond me. I prefer coco pops to cornflakes because cornflakes are disgusting. I prefer having sex with black people because white people are disgusting. See the difference? " Well anyone who would describe another person as disgusting because of their race is obviously a fucking tit. "I prefer having sex with black people because I find white people unattractive" is, however, a perfectly acceptable statement. Daft, in my opinion, but acceptable. | |||
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"Apparently, well reading the numerous threads that are started almost daily ..we're all allowed them... Can anyone give me a reason why does having certain preferences and stating them cause such a reaction amongst those that are excluded ? If you saw a pub with a sign outside that said "No blacks, no dogs, no irish", could you understand why it would piss off a black, Irish, dog walker? That's a very poor analogy though isn't it. Big difference from letting somebody stick their cock inside you najed to allowing them to have a drink at a bar fully dressed. So this argument just needs to be dropped it holds zero credibility. One is a personal experience the other common decency. Ok tell me a comparable analogy where it's totally cool to exclude people based on their race? In the instance of people having a preference not to meet people of a certain race excluding them because of their race or because of a persons attraction preference? And there is a difference before you suggest it's the same thing - if someone said they aren't attracted to blonde haired blue eyed gym fit people then no-one would bat an eyelid, so what's the difference between that and saying you're not attracted to people with other physical features such as skin colour? Now of course if the underlying reason for that lack of attraction is based purely on bigotry of some form then it's another matter but if it's purely that you don't personally find someone of whatever type sexually attractive then I don't see an issue with it. Back to the OP though - a lot of the time people will moan because they feel excluded by a particular preference, which always makes me laugh as it suggests they have none of their own, which in turn suggests either they're not fussy, or are desperate or are lying - none of which would be particularly attractive. I think you answered your own question. When it comes to body shape, we can explain where most preferences come from based on indirect signals of health and fitness for reproduction. Ultimately, you could say that a profile that says they won't meet women over size 16 is body shaming, or whatever the buzz word is. Since there's nothing our genes love more than diversity, I really struggle to think of the natural reason a skin colour would make someone find an otherwise attractive person, unattractive. Hence, I'm willing to bet the real reason is learned and psychological, not genetic or biologically based. It also helps when many people confirm this to you privately. Not all attraction, in fact I'd wager barely any, is completely natural though - it's informed by many experiences as we go through life and so to a greater extent is learned - regardless of whether that be a preference for redheads, black people or those of a larger build - it doesn't necessarily make you racist just because you have a preference not to meet or be attracted to a certain race. Same with any other of the myriad preferences that abound on here - whether that be to not meet bi males, wanting to find a Dominant or a submissive person they're preferences plain and simple. And it's clear that bemoaning someone else's preferences is pointless, unless of course that person has hateful reasons for expressing them in which case they bear further scrutiny and reproach but where it's simply a preference that excludes someone because they don't meet that preference then there is nothing more to be said other than "move onto a profile that doesn't exclude you"" Exactly this.
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" It's because "racism" is the modern day sin against the holy ghost so people will react very strongly if you accuse them of it. . Which is actually a good thing in many ways as it shows how socially unacceptable racism now is We need to distinguish between bad racism (not offering a black people jobs) and acceptable racism (I only fuck white people). People doing it on here by labelling acceptable racism as "preference". As you have said, it's also about politeness. Your private view may be that you never fuck black people because you think they are all ugly. Only an arse would articulate that. " Personally, I don't see it as progress to have people think, but only indirectly say racist things. I'd much rather they could just be honest and we could talk about. Racism stems from disgust, not fear as is popularly believed. Disgust is learned. If you're bombarded with images of brown people committing terrorists attack, gang grape in India and grooming gangs in Rochdale, it's no wonder the casual viewer isn't going to immediately link brown skin to an attractive trait. | |||
"We have preferences in every other area of our life, from our breakfast cereal to which car we drive. Why some folk can't grasp that the same applies to sex is beyond me. the problem is saying it out loud really I fucking hate Weetabix! Aaaahhh, feel so much better now "but you eat it anyway? | |||
"We have preferences in every other area of our life, from our breakfast cereal to which car we drive. Why some folk can't grasp that the same applies to sex is beyond me. I prefer coco pops to cornflakes because cornflakes are disgusting. I prefer having sex with black people because white people are disgusting. See the difference? " Coco pops and cornflakes shouldn't mix on the same shelf | |||
"Apparently, well reading the numerous threads that are started almost daily ..we're all allowed them... Can anyone give me a reason why does having certain preferences and stating them cause such a reaction amongst those that are excluded ? If you saw a pub with a sign outside that said "No blacks, no dogs, no irish", could you understand why it would piss off a black, Irish, dog walker? That's a very poor analogy though isn't it. Big difference from letting somebody stick their cock inside you najed to allowing them to have a drink at a bar fully dressed. So this argument just needs to be dropped it holds zero credibility. One is a personal experience the other common decency. Ok tell me a comparable analogy where it's totally cool to exclude people based on their race? In the instance of people having a preference not to meet people of a certain race excluding them because of their race or because of a persons attraction preference? And there is a difference before you suggest it's the same thing - if someone said they aren't attracted to blonde haired blue eyed gym fit people then no-one would bat an eyelid, so what's the difference between that and saying you're not attracted to people with other physical features such as skin colour? Now of course if the underlying reason for that lack of attraction is based purely on bigotry of some form then it's another matter but if it's purely that you don't personally find someone of whatever type sexually attractive then I don't see an issue with it. Back to the OP though - a lot of the time people will moan because they feel excluded by a particular preference, which always makes me laugh as it suggests they have none of their own, which in turn suggests either they're not fussy, or are desperate or are lying - none of which would be particularly attractive. I think you answered your own question. When it comes to body shape, we can explain where most preferences come from based on indirect signals of health and fitness for reproduction. Ultimately, you could say that a profile that says they won't meet women over size 16 is body shaming, or whatever the buzz word is. Since there's nothing our genes love more than diversity, I really struggle to think of the natural reason a skin colour would make someone find an otherwise attractive person, unattractive. Hence, I'm willing to bet the real reason is learned and psychological, not genetic or biologically based. It also helps when many people confirm this to you privately. Not all attraction, in fact I'd wager barely any, is completely natural though - it's informed by many experiences as we go through life and so to a greater extent is learned - regardless of whether that be a preference for redheads, black people or those of a larger build - it doesn't necessarily make you racist just because you have a preference not to meet or be attracted to a certain race. Same with any other of the myriad preferences that abound on here - whether that be to not meet bi males, wanting to find a Dominant or a submissive person they're preferences plain and simple. And it's clear that bemoaning someone else's preferences is pointless, unless of course that person has hateful reasons for expressing them in which case they bear further scrutiny and reproach but where it's simply a preference that excludes someone because they don't meet that preference then there is nothing more to be said other than "move onto a profile that doesn't exclude you"" Most attraction is natural. It's why peacocks like pointless feather patterns and mooses grow antlers so big that it makes their daily lives impractical. | |||
"We have preferences in every other area of our life, from our breakfast cereal to which car we drive. Why some folk can't grasp that the same applies to sex is beyond me. " Because they like to get triggered by any and everything. Mrs | |||
"We have preferences in every other area of our life, from our breakfast cereal to which car we drive. Why some folk can't grasp that the same applies to sex is beyond me. Because they like to get triggered by any and everything. Mrs" We on the left are a sensitive folk. Why don't you put trigger warnings on things that you know some people will find inflammatory? | |||
" It's because "racism" is the modern day sin against the holy ghost so people will react very strongly if you accuse them of it. . Which is actually a good thing in many ways as it shows how socially unacceptable racism now is We need to distinguish between bad racism (not offering a black people jobs) and acceptable racism (I only fuck white people). People doing it on here by labelling acceptable racism as "preference". As you have said, it's also about politeness. Your private view may be that you never fuck black people because you think they are all ugly. Only an arse would articulate that. Personally, I don't see it as progress to have people think, but only indirectly say racist things. I'd much rather they could just be honest and we could talk about. Racism stems from disgust, not fear as is popularly believed. Disgust is learned. If you're bombarded with images of brown people committing terrorists attack, gang grape in India and grooming gangs in Rochdale, it's no wonder the casual viewer isn't going to immediately link brown skin to an attractive trait. " So...... Like I said in the other thread but you seemed to skip it conveniently. I'm black. My family is black. I love black people. I definitely have no disgust towards them  . But I prefer to have sex with white men mostly. ( Before you get triggered if I find someone attractive and there's a spark, skin colour will not matter. I'm just generally more attracted to white men). So how am I racist?
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"Apparently, well reading the numerous threads that are started almost daily ..we're all allowed them... Can anyone give me a reason why does having certain preferences and stating them cause such a reaction amongst those that are excluded ? If you saw a pub with a sign outside that said "No blacks, no dogs, no irish", could you understand why it would piss off a black, Irish, dog walker? That's a very poor analogy though isn't it. Big difference from letting somebody stick their cock inside you najed to allowing them to have a drink at a bar fully dressed. So this argument just needs to be dropped it holds zero credibility. One is a personal experience the other common decency. Ok tell me a comparable analogy where it's totally cool to exclude people based on their race? In the instance of people having a preference not to meet people of a certain race excluding them because of their race or because of a persons attraction preference? And there is a difference before you suggest it's the same thing - if someone said they aren't attracted to blonde haired blue eyed gym fit people then no-one would bat an eyelid, so what's the difference between that and saying you're not attracted to people with other physical features such as skin colour? Now of course if the underlying reason for that lack of attraction is based purely on bigotry of some form then it's another matter but if it's purely that you don't personally find someone of whatever type sexually attractive then I don't see an issue with it. Back to the OP though - a lot of the time people will moan because they feel excluded by a particular preference, which always makes me laugh as it suggests they have none of their own, which in turn suggests either they're not fussy, or are desperate or are lying - none of which would be particularly attractive. I think you answered your own question. When it comes to body shape, we can explain where most preferences come from based on indirect signals of health and fitness for reproduction. Ultimately, you could say that a profile that says they won't meet women over size 16 is body shaming, or whatever the buzz word is. Since there's nothing our genes love more than diversity, I really struggle to think of the natural reason a skin colour would make someone find an otherwise attractive person, unattractive. Hence, I'm willing to bet the real reason is learned and psychological, not genetic or biologically based. It also helps when many people confirm this to you privately. Not all attraction, in fact I'd wager barely any, is completely natural though - it's informed by many experiences as we go through life and so to a greater extent is learned - regardless of whether that be a preference for redheads, black people or those of a larger build - it doesn't necessarily make you racist just because you have a preference not to meet or be attracted to a certain race. Same with any other of the myriad preferences that abound on here - whether that be to not meet bi males, wanting to find a Dominant or a submissive person they're preferences plain and simple. And it's clear that bemoaning someone else's preferences is pointless, unless of course that person has hateful reasons for expressing them in which case they bear further scrutiny and reproach but where it's simply a preference that excludes someone because they don't meet that preference then there is nothing more to be said other than "move onto a profile that doesn't exclude you" And that is the whole point that every one of these incredibly irritating threads never accepts. If the reason to exclude is hate it's 100% wrong, if it's just a preference then grow up and get over it. If the 'preference' was 100% hate and racism, what could be done about it?" Sadly not a thing, unless it could be proven, then just kick them off the site. There will be some of course. We see and suffer from it every single day. | |||
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"We have preferences in every other area of our life, from our breakfast cereal to which car we drive. Why some folk can't grasp that the same applies to sex is beyond me. Because they like to get triggered by any and everything. Mrs We on the left are a sensitive folk. Why don't you put trigger warnings on things that you know some people will find inflammatory? " If my statements are inflammatory then yours are.......? Mrs | |||
" It's because "racism" is the modern day sin against the holy ghost so people will react very strongly if you accuse them of it. . Which is actually a good thing in many ways as it shows how socially unacceptable racism now is We need to distinguish between bad racism (not offering a black people jobs) and acceptable racism (I only fuck white people). People doing it on here by labelling acceptable racism as "preference". As you have said, it's also about politeness. Your private view may be that you never fuck black people because you think they are all ugly. Only an arse would articulate that. Personally, I don't see it as progress to have people think, but only indirectly say racist things. I'd much rather they could just be honest and we could talk about. Racism stems from disgust, not fear as is popularly believed. Disgust is learned. If you're bombarded with images of brown people committing terrorists attack, gang grape in India and grooming gangs in Rochdale, it's no wonder the casual viewer isn't going to immediately link brown skin to an attractive trait. So...... Like I said in the other thread but you seemed to skip it conveniently. I'm black. My family is black. I love black people. I definitely have no disgust towards them . But I prefer to have sex with white men mostly. ( Before you get triggered if I find someone attractive and there's a spark, skin colour will not matter. I'm just generally more attracted to white men). So how am I racist?
Mrs"Are there any circumstances that you would consider, I'll say that word twice, consider being intimate with a black guy? | |||
"Apparently, well reading the numerous threads that are started almost daily ..we're all allowed them... Can anyone give me a reason why does having certain preferences and stating them cause such a reaction amongst those that are excluded ? If you saw a pub with a sign outside that said "No blacks, no dogs, no irish", could you understand why it would piss off a black, Irish, dog walker? That's a very poor analogy though isn't it. Big difference from letting somebody stick their cock inside you najed to allowing them to have a drink at a bar fully dressed. So this argument just needs to be dropped it holds zero credibility. One is a personal experience the other common decency. Ok tell me a comparable analogy where it's totally cool to exclude people based on their race? In the instance of people having a preference not to meet people of a certain race excluding them because of their race or because of a persons attraction preference? And there is a difference before you suggest it's the same thing - if someone said they aren't attracted to blonde haired blue eyed gym fit people then no-one would bat an eyelid, so what's the difference between that and saying you're not attracted to people with other physical features such as skin colour? Now of course if the underlying reason for that lack of attraction is based purely on bigotry of some form then it's another matter but if it's purely that you don't personally find someone of whatever type sexually attractive then I don't see an issue with it. Back to the OP though - a lot of the time people will moan because they feel excluded by a particular preference, which always makes me laugh as it suggests they have none of their own, which in turn suggests either they're not fussy, or are desperate or are lying - none of which would be particularly attractive. I think you answered your own question. When it comes to body shape, we can explain where most preferences come from based on indirect signals of health and fitness for reproduction. Ultimately, you could say that a profile that says they won't meet women over size 16 is body shaming, or whatever the buzz word is. Since there's nothing our genes love more than diversity, I really struggle to think of the natural reason a skin colour would make someone find an otherwise attractive person, unattractive. Hence, I'm willing to bet the real reason is learned and psychological, not genetic or biologically based. It also helps when many people confirm this to you privately. So the fact that I prefer non white females for both sex and relationship makes me a racist does it. Seriously you don't have a clue what you're talking about. The most important people in my life are my mum and daughter and my wife. My best friend is white, my best man at my upcoming wedding is a white woman. My preference for sex and relationship is my black partner. Please analyse that with your normal level of nonsense and explain to me how my sexual preference makes me a racist? Doesn't fit very well into your left wing PC ethos does it? If I preferred natural blondes or brunettes or women with big or small boobs you're OK with that but not if it's because of their skin colour. Thats because you are absolute the worst of the Liberal left. You are petrified of offending some poor little defenceless black person with a dose of reality. You actually don't understand what preference is because you have been so indoctrinated with the PC bollocks that you genuinely can't see past doing the white person's so called right thing. Saying you don't want to have sex with a black person or white person is exactly the same as saying you don't want to have sex with somebody because they have fake boobs, blonde hair, etc. And until you realise and accept that then you are political correctness gone wrong. The same sort of person that brings this current generation of kids up to believe that they can't lose, that if they cry on sports day then they get to run a race on their own so they can win. Sometimes you just aren't the right fit at something for various reasons and if it's race or hair colour it is exactly the same thing. If the cause is bigotry and exclusion due to disliking people because of their race then it is utterly disgusting if it is just a preference because you prefer th look of that person and that is what turns you on then I feel terribly sorry for you that you can't see the difference. As much as is made me chuckle to be called left, I'll cherish this one, I was wondering if you could actually answer my question and give me a comparable analogy where it's totally cool to exclude people based on their race?" A typical left wing politicians response. Completely avoid and deflect, proving that you actually don't know anything at all about what your are attempting to debate, other than how to write lots of words and then change direction as soon as you see things aren't going your way. So if I give you an analogy, which is far from difficult despite you clearly struggling, do you think that will suddenly make your stream of nonsense right instead of wrong. I tell you what, you explain to me what sort of racist I am, with legitimate points, no deflection from the fact that I'm a white male, marrying a black female with mainly white friends due to where I was born, and you can have an analogy thatake sense and use it all over the place like you use your current ridiculous one. Also, as you seem to feel so strongly about racism, and telling people that have real daily issues with it how they should think about it and handle it. maybe you can explain your interest, how it currently affects you or how it has had some damnung influence on your past. Or is it that you just know how everybody should live their lives, and can't resist telling them, just like a left wing activist. | |||
" It's because "racism" is the modern day sin against the holy ghost so people will react very strongly if you accuse them of it. . Which is actually a good thing in many ways as it shows how socially unacceptable racism now is We need to distinguish between bad racism (not offering a black people jobs) and acceptable racism (I only fuck white people). People doing it on here by labelling acceptable racism as "preference". As you have said, it's also about politeness. Your private view may be that you never fuck black people because you think they are all ugly. Only an arse would articulate that. Personally, I don't see it as progress to have people think, but only indirectly say racist things. I'd much rather they could just be honest and we could talk about. Racism stems from disgust, not fear as is popularly believed. Disgust is learned. If you're bombarded with images of brown people committing terrorists attack, gang grape in India and grooming gangs in Rochdale, it's no wonder the casual viewer isn't going to immediately link brown skin to an attractive trait. So...... Like I said in the other thread but you seemed to skip it conveniently. I'm black. My family is black. I love black people. I definitely have no disgust towards them . But I prefer to have sex with white men mostly. ( Before you get triggered if I find someone attractive and there's a spark, skin colour will not matter. I'm just generally more attracted to white men). So how am I racist?
Mrs
Are there any circumstances that you would consider, I'll say that word twice, consider being intimate with a black guy? "As I said, if I found someone attractive skin colour wouldn't matter. So that's obviously yes. Like Idris Elba. Yes please  . Or any of the other black and Asian men I have been intimate with.
Mrs | |||
"Apparently, well reading the numerous threads that are started almost daily ..we're all allowed them... Can anyone give me a reason why does having certain preferences and stating them cause such a reaction amongst those that are excluded ? If you saw a pub with a sign outside that said "No blacks, no dogs, no irish", could you understand why it would piss off a black, Irish, dog walker? That's a very poor analogy though isn't it. Big difference from letting somebody stick their cock inside you najed to allowing them to have a drink at a bar fully dressed. So this argument just needs to be dropped it holds zero credibility. One is a personal experience the other common decency. Ok tell me a comparable analogy where it's totally cool to exclude people based on their race? In the instance of people having a preference not to meet people of a certain race excluding them because of their race or because of a persons attraction preference? And there is a difference before you suggest it's the same thing - if someone said they aren't attracted to blonde haired blue eyed gym fit people then no-one would bat an eyelid, so what's the difference between that and saying you're not attracted to people with other physical features such as skin colour? Now of course if the underlying reason for that lack of attraction is based purely on bigotry of some form then it's another matter but if it's purely that you don't personally find someone of whatever type sexually attractive then I don't see an issue with it. Back to the OP though - a lot of the time people will moan because they feel excluded by a particular preference, which always makes me laugh as it suggests they have none of their own, which in turn suggests either they're not fussy, or are desperate or are lying - none of which would be particularly attractive. I think you answered your own question. When it comes to body shape, we can explain where most preferences come from based on indirect signals of health and fitness for reproduction. Ultimately, you could say that a profile that says they won't meet women over size 16 is body shaming, or whatever the buzz word is. Since there's nothing our genes love more than diversity, I really struggle to think of the natural reason a skin colour would make someone find an otherwise attractive person, unattractive. Hence, I'm willing to bet the real reason is learned and psychological, not genetic or biologically based. It also helps when many people confirm this to you privately. So the fact that I prefer non white females for both sex and relationship makes me a racist does it. Seriously you don't have a clue what you're talking about. The most important people in my life are my mum and daughter and my wife. My best friend is white, my best man at my upcoming wedding is a white woman. My preference for sex and relationship is my black partner. Please analyse that with your normal level of nonsense and explain to me how my sexual preference makes me a racist? Doesn't fit very well into your left wing PC ethos does it? If I preferred natural blondes or brunettes or women with big or small boobs you're OK with that but not if it's because of their skin colour. Thats because you are absolute the worst of the Liberal left. You are petrified of offending some poor little defenceless black person with a dose of reality. You actually don't understand what preference is because you have been so indoctrinated with the PC bollocks that you genuinely can't see past doing the white person's so called right thing. Saying you don't want to have sex with a black person or white person is exactly the same as saying you don't want to have sex with somebody because they have fake boobs, blonde hair, etc. And until you realise and accept that then you are political correctness gone wrong. The same sort of person that brings this current generation of kids up to believe that they can't lose, that if they cry on sports day then they get to run a race on their own so they can win. Sometimes you just aren't the right fit at something for various reasons and if it's race or hair colour it is exactly the same thing. If the cause is bigotry and exclusion due to disliking people because of their race then it is utterly disgusting if it is just a preference because you prefer th look of that person and that is what turns you on then I feel terribly sorry for you that you can't see the difference. " Absolutely agree with all of this | |||
"Apparently, well reading the numerous threads that are started almost daily ..we're all allowed them... Can anyone give me a reason why does having certain preferences and stating them cause such a reaction amongst those that are excluded ? If you saw a pub with a sign outside that said "No blacks, no dogs, no irish", could you understand why it would piss off a black, Irish, dog walker? That's a very poor analogy though isn't it. Big difference from letting somebody stick their cock inside you najed to allowing them to have a drink at a bar fully dressed. So this argument just needs to be dropped it holds zero credibility. One is a personal experience the other common decency. Ok tell me a comparable analogy where it's totally cool to exclude people based on their race? In the instance of people having a preference not to meet people of a certain race excluding them because of their race or because of a persons attraction preference? And there is a difference before you suggest it's the same thing - if someone said they aren't attracted to blonde haired blue eyed gym fit people then no-one would bat an eyelid, so what's the difference between that and saying you're not attracted to people with other physical features such as skin colour? Now of course if the underlying reason for that lack of attraction is based purely on bigotry of some form then it's another matter but if it's purely that you don't personally find someone of whatever type sexually attractive then I don't see an issue with it. Back to the OP though - a lot of the time people will moan because they feel excluded by a particular preference, which always makes me laugh as it suggests they have none of their own, which in turn suggests either they're not fussy, or are desperate or are lying - none of which would be particularly attractive. I think you answered your own question. When it comes to body shape, we can explain where most preferences come from based on indirect signals of health and fitness for reproduction. Ultimately, you could say that a profile that says they won't meet women over size 16 is body shaming, or whatever the buzz word is. Since there's nothing our genes love more than diversity, I really struggle to think of the natural reason a skin colour would make someone find an otherwise attractive person, unattractive. Hence, I'm willing to bet the real reason is learned and psychological, not genetic or biologically based. It also helps when many people confirm this to you privately. So the fact that I prefer non white females for both sex and relationship makes me a racist does it. Seriously you don't have a clue what you're talking about. The most important people in my life are my mum and daughter and my wife. My best friend is white, my best man at my upcoming wedding is a white woman. My preference for sex and relationship is my black partner. Please analyse that with your normal level of nonsense and explain to me how my sexual preference makes me a racist? Doesn't fit very well into your left wing PC ethos does it? If I preferred natural blondes or brunettes or women with big or small boobs you're OK with that but not if it's because of their skin colour. Thats because you are absolute the worst of the Liberal left. You are petrified of offending some poor little defenceless black person with a dose of reality. You actually don't understand what preference is because you have been so indoctrinated with the PC bollocks that you genuinely can't see past doing the white person's so called right thing. Saying you don't want to have sex with a black person or white person is exactly the same as saying you don't want to have sex with somebody because they have fake boobs, blonde hair, etc. And until you realise and accept that then you are political correctness gone wrong. The same sort of person that brings this current generation of kids up to believe that they can't lose, that if they cry on sports day then they get to run a race on their own so they can win. Sometimes you just aren't the right fit at something for various reasons and if it's race or hair colour it is exactly the same thing. If the cause is bigotry and exclusion due to disliking people because of their race then it is utterly disgusting if it is just a preference because you prefer th look of that person and that is what turns you on then I feel terribly sorry for you that you can't see the difference. As much as is made me chuckle to be called left, I'll cherish this one, I was wondering if you could actually answer my question and give me a comparable analogy where it's totally cool to exclude people based on their race? There isn't one. Excluding people on the basis of their ethnicity from your pool of potential sexual partners is racist (in the sense that you are making a blanket negative judgment about a class of people based on their ethnicity#) but that's fine because we are all entitled to complete personal autonomy when it comes to who we have sex with. # I anticipate the objection (not from you) . "I don't make a blanket negative judgment, I just don't fancy people of ethnicity x", but I don't think that flies. Someone might say he wouldn't employ black people because he never gets on with them. Even if he were being honest, we'd still say he was being racist I'm on the left now too comrade, when's my welcoming party? Why is it so hard for people to admit they have some racist preferences? I certainly do. The level of cognitive dissonance require to believe you could go through life and not pick any up is overwhelmingly me. " Oh I do, I can't stand two sets of people. Passionate scots who don't live in Scotland, but hate everything about the country that harbors them, always wish England ill in every endeavour but won't bugger off back to scotland. And even worse, middle class white English people that love telling everybody how to live, sticking their nose in other people's affairs and telling them what they should do about it, very loudly all over the world while they look fot their nearest English pub while visiting the Yemen. An absolute holiday ruined if we accidentally go to a white english resort populated with the gobby twats. That is definitely my racism. | |||
"Apparently, well reading the numerous threads that are started almost daily ..we're all allowed them... Can anyone give me a reason why does having certain preferences and stating them cause such a reaction amongst those that are excluded ? If you saw a pub with a sign outside that said "No blacks, no dogs, no irish", could you understand why it would piss off a black, Irish, dog walker? That's a very poor analogy though isn't it. Big difference from letting somebody stick their cock inside you najed to allowing them to have a drink at a bar fully dressed. So this argument just needs to be dropped it holds zero credibility. One is a personal experience the other common decency. Ok tell me a comparable analogy where it's totally cool to exclude people based on their race? In the instance of people having a preference not to meet people of a certain race excluding them because of their race or because of a persons attraction preference? And there is a difference before you suggest it's the same thing - if someone said they aren't attracted to blonde haired blue eyed gym fit people then no-one would bat an eyelid, so what's the difference between that and saying you're not attracted to people with other physical features such as skin colour? Now of course if the underlying reason for that lack of attraction is based purely on bigotry of some form then it's another matter but if it's purely that you don't personally find someone of whatever type sexually attractive then I don't see an issue with it. Back to the OP though - a lot of the time people will moan because they feel excluded by a particular preference, which always makes me laugh as it suggests they have none of their own, which in turn suggests either they're not fussy, or are desperate or are lying - none of which would be particularly attractive. I think you answered your own question. When it comes to body shape, we can explain where most preferences come from based on indirect signals of health and fitness for reproduction. Ultimately, you could say that a profile that says they won't meet women over size 16 is body shaming, or whatever the buzz word is. Since there's nothing our genes love more than diversity, I really struggle to think of the natural reason a skin colour would make someone find an otherwise attractive person, unattractive. Hence, I'm willing to bet the real reason is learned and psychological, not genetic or biologically based. It also helps when many people confirm this to you privately. So the fact that I prefer non white females for both sex and relationship makes me a racist does it. Seriously you don't have a clue what you're talking about. The most important people in my life are my mum and daughter and my wife. My best friend is white, my best man at my upcoming wedding is a white woman. My preference for sex and relationship is my black partner. Please analyse that with your normal level of nonsense and explain to me how my sexual preference makes me a racist? Doesn't fit very well into your left wing PC ethos does it? If I preferred natural blondes or brunettes or women with big or small boobs you're OK with that but not if it's because of their skin colour. Thats because you are absolute the worst of the Liberal left. You are petrified of offending some poor little defenceless black person with a dose of reality. You actually don't understand what preference is because you have been so indoctrinated with the PC bollocks that you genuinely can't see past doing the white person's so called right thing. Saying you don't want to have sex with a black person or white person is exactly the same as saying you don't want to have sex with somebody because they have fake boobs, blonde hair, etc. And until you realise and accept that then you are political correctness gone wrong. The same sort of person that brings this current generation of kids up to believe that they can't lose, that if they cry on sports day then they get to run a race on their own so they can win. Sometimes you just aren't the right fit at something for various reasons and if it's race or hair colour it is exactly the same thing. If the cause is bigotry and exclusion due to disliking people because of their race then it is utterly disgusting if it is just a preference because you prefer th look of that person and that is what turns you on then I feel terribly sorry for you that you can't see the difference. As much as is made me chuckle to be called left, I'll cherish this one, I was wondering if you could actually answer my question and give me a comparable analogy where it's totally cool to exclude people based on their race? A typical left wing politicians response. Completely avoid and deflect, proving that you actually don't know anything at all about what your are attempting to debate, other than how to write lots of words and then change direction as soon as you see things aren't going your way. So if I give you an analogy, which is far from difficult despite you clearly struggling, do you think that will suddenly make your stream of nonsense right instead of wrong. I tell you what, you explain to me what sort of racist I am, with legitimate points, no deflection from the fact that I'm a white male, marrying a black female with mainly white friends due to where I was born, and you can have an analogy thatake sense and use it all over the place like you use your current ridiculous one. Also, as you seem to feel so strongly about racism, and telling people that have real daily issues with it how they should think about it and handle it. maybe you can explain your interest, how it currently affects you or how it has had some damnung influence on your past. Or is it that you just know how everybody should live their lives, and can't resist telling them, just like a left wing activist. " As I said a lot further up the thread, someone (not you) appears to be looking for an argument and sadly appears to have got one. The OP never mentioned racial preferences and yes, potentially opened a huge can of worms which has descended somewhat predictably into a heated debate. I don’t see anyone condoning overt racism. What I do see is folk tying themselves into inextricable knots trying to win an argument they created. Peace people, peace. | |||
"Apparently, well reading the numerous threads that are started almost daily ..we're all allowed them... Can anyone give me a reason why does having certain preferences and stating them cause such a reaction amongst those that are excluded ?" Those that find themselves excluded like moan about it as they feel there is an entitlement and that we should fuck them because they think we should. We will play with those who we find attractive to us regardless of there race/skin colour. We don't stipulate any preference for that reason, however, we don't meet single guys and now have had to block them from messaging us because twice in a week we were messaged and we turned down two guys saying we were not looking to meet single guys, at which point they turned nasty and actually accused us of being racist. | |||
" It's because "racism" is the modern day sin against the holy ghost so people will react very strongly if you accuse them of it. . Which is actually a good thing in many ways as it shows how socially unacceptable racism now is We need to distinguish between bad racism (not offering a black people jobs) and acceptable racism (I only fuck white people). People doing it on here by labelling acceptable racism as "preference". As you have said, it's also about politeness. Your private view may be that you never fuck black people because you think they are all ugly. Only an arse would articulate that. Personally, I don't see it as progress to have people think, but only indirectly say racist things. I'd much rather they could just be honest and we could talk about. Racism stems from disgust, not fear as is popularly believed. Disgust is learned. If you're bombarded with images of brown people committing terrorists attack, gang grape in India and grooming gangs in Rochdale, it's no wonder the casual viewer isn't going to immediately link brown skin to an attractive trait. So...... Like I said in the other thread but you seemed to skip it conveniently. I'm black. My family is black. I love black people. I definitely have no disgust towards them . But I prefer to have sex with white men mostly. ( Before you get triggered if I find someone attractive and there's a spark, skin colour will not matter. I'm just generally more attracted to white men). So how am I racist?
Mrs
Are there any circumstances that you would consider, I'll say that word twice, consider being intimate with a black guy?
As I said, if I found someone attractive skin colour wouldn't matter. So that's obviously yes. Like Idris Elba. Yes please . Or any of the other black and Asian men I have been intimate with.
Mrs"Then you are arguing with a strawman. You are not excluding an entire race because of their race. | |||
"Apparently, well reading the numerous threads that are started almost daily ..we're all allowed them... Can anyone give me a reason why does having certain preferences and stating them cause such a reaction amongst those that are excluded ? If you saw a pub with a sign outside that said "No blacks, no dogs, no irish", could you understand why it would piss off a black, Irish, dog walker? That's a very poor analogy though isn't it. Big difference from letting somebody stick their cock inside you najed to allowing them to have a drink at a bar fully dressed. So this argument just needs to be dropped it holds zero credibility. One is a personal experience the other common decency. Ok tell me a comparable analogy where it's totally cool to exclude people based on their race? In the instance of people having a preference not to meet people of a certain race excluding them because of their race or because of a persons attraction preference? And there is a difference before you suggest it's the same thing - if someone said they aren't attracted to blonde haired blue eyed gym fit people then no-one would bat an eyelid, so what's the difference between that and saying you're not attracted to people with other physical features such as skin colour? Now of course if the underlying reason for that lack of attraction is based purely on bigotry of some form then it's another matter but if it's purely that you don't personally find someone of whatever type sexually attractive then I don't see an issue with it. Back to the OP though - a lot of the time people will moan because they feel excluded by a particular preference, which always makes me laugh as it suggests they have none of their own, which in turn suggests either they're not fussy, or are desperate or are lying - none of which would be particularly attractive. I think you answered your own question. When it comes to body shape, we can explain where most preferences come from based on indirect signals of health and fitness for reproduction. Ultimately, you could say that a profile that says they won't meet women over size 16 is body shaming, or whatever the buzz word is. Since there's nothing our genes love more than diversity, I really struggle to think of the natural reason a skin colour would make someone find an otherwise attractive person, unattractive. Hence, I'm willing to bet the real reason is learned and psychological, not genetic or biologically based. It also helps when many people confirm this to you privately. So the fact that I prefer non white females for both sex and relationship makes me a racist does it. Seriously you don't have a clue what you're talking about. The most important people in my life are my mum and daughter and my wife. My best friend is white, my best man at my upcoming wedding is a white woman. My preference for sex and relationship is my black partner. Please analyse that with your normal level of nonsense and explain to me how my sexual preference makes me a racist? Doesn't fit very well into your left wing PC ethos does it? If I preferred natural blondes or brunettes or women with big or small boobs you're OK with that but not if it's because of their skin colour. Thats because you are absolute the worst of the Liberal left. You are petrified of offending some poor little defenceless black person with a dose of reality. You actually don't understand what preference is because you have been so indoctrinated with the PC bollocks that you genuinely can't see past doing the white person's so called right thing. Saying you don't want to have sex with a black person or white person is exactly the same as saying you don't want to have sex with somebody because they have fake boobs, blonde hair, etc. And until you realise and accept that then you are political correctness gone wrong. The same sort of person that brings this current generation of kids up to believe that they can't lose, that if they cry on sports day then they get to run a race on their own so they can win. Sometimes you just aren't the right fit at something for various reasons and if it's race or hair colour it is exactly the same thing. If the cause is bigotry and exclusion due to disliking people because of their race then it is utterly disgusting if it is just a preference because you prefer th look of that person and that is what turns you on then I feel terribly sorry for you that you can't see the difference. As much as is made me chuckle to be called left, I'll cherish this one, I was wondering if you could actually answer my question and give me a comparable analogy where it's totally cool to exclude people based on their race? A typical left wing politicians response. Completely avoid and deflect, proving that you actually don't know anything at all about what your are attempting to debate, other than how to write lots of words and then change direction as soon as you see things aren't going your way. So if I give you an analogy, which is far from difficult despite you clearly struggling, do you think that will suddenly make your stream of nonsense right instead of wrong. I tell you what, you explain to me what sort of racist I am, with legitimate points, no deflection from the fact that I'm a white male, marrying a black female with mainly white friends due to where I was born, and you can have an analogy thatake sense and use it all over the place like you use your current ridiculous one. Also, as you seem to feel so strongly about racism, and telling people that have real daily issues with it how they should think about it and handle it. maybe you can explain your interest, how it currently affects you or how it has had some damnung influence on your past. Or is it that you just know how everybody should live their lives, and can't resist telling them, just like a left wing activist. " I would but I'm off to a Jeremy Corbyn rally now. Sorry but it's my turn to hand out the flyers. | |||
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" It's because "racism" is the modern day sin against the holy ghost so people will react very strongly if you accuse them of it. . Which is actually a good thing in many ways as it shows how socially unacceptable racism now is We need to distinguish between bad racism (not offering a black people jobs) and acceptable racism (I only fuck white people). People doing it on here by labelling acceptable racism as "preference". As you have said, it's also about politeness. Your private view may be that you never fuck black people because you think they are all ugly. Only an arse would articulate that. Personally, I don't see it as progress to have people think, but only indirectly say racist things. I'd much rather they could just be honest and we could talk about. Racism stems from disgust, not fear as is popularly believed. Disgust is learned. If you're bombarded with images of brown people committing terrorists attack, gang grape in India and grooming gangs in Rochdale, it's no wonder the casual viewer isn't going to immediately link brown skin to an attractive trait. So...... Like I said in the other thread but you seemed to skip it conveniently. I'm black. My family is black. I love black people. I definitely have no disgust towards them . But I prefer to have sex with white men mostly. ( Before you get triggered if I find someone attractive and there's a spark, skin colour will not matter. I'm just generally more attracted to white men). So how am I racist?
Mrs
Are there any circumstances that you would consider, I'll say that word twice, consider being intimate with a black guy?
As I said, if I found someone attractive skin colour wouldn't matter. So that's obviously yes. Like Idris Elba. Yes please . Or any of the other black and Asian men I have been intimate with.
Mrs
Then you are arguing with a strawman. You are not excluding an entire race because of their race. "Maybe reread some of your posts again. Think you're not only confusing everyone else but even yourself. You remind me of a knot that gets tighter and tighter the more you try to untie it. As I'm bad with pointless knots, I'm off to enjoy my preference filled life . | |||
" It's because "racism" is the modern day sin against the holy ghost so people will react very strongly if you accuse them of it. . Which is actually a good thing in many ways as it shows how socially unacceptable racism now is We need to distinguish between bad racism (not offering a black people jobs) and acceptable racism (I only fuck white people). People doing it on here by labelling acceptable racism as "preference". As you have said, it's also about politeness. Your private view may be that you never fuck black people because you think they are all ugly. Only an arse would articulate that. Personally, I don't see it as progress to have people think, but only indirectly say racist things. I'd much rather they could just be honest and we could talk about. Racism stems from disgust, not fear as is popularly believed. Disgust is learned. If you're bombarded with images of brown people committing terrorists attack, gang grape in India and grooming gangs in Rochdale, it's no wonder the casual viewer isn't going to immediately link brown skin to an attractive trait. So...... Like I said in the other thread but you seemed to skip it conveniently. I'm black. My family is black. I love black people. I definitely have no disgust towards them . But I prefer to have sex with white men mostly. ( Before you get triggered if I find someone attractive and there's a spark, skin colour will not matter. I'm just generally more attracted to white men). So how am I racist?
Mrs
Are there any circumstances that you would consider, I'll say that word twice, consider being intimate with a black guy?
As I said, if I found someone attractive skin colour wouldn't matter. So that's obviously yes. Like Idris Elba. Yes please . Or any of the other black and Asian men I have been intimate with.
Mrs
Then you are arguing with a strawman. You are not excluding an entire race because of their race. "But there collapses your whole argument, as our profile very clearly states that she would rather only play with white guys. and mine non Caucasian women, as that's our preference not our exclusion. You arguing like this just exacerbates the situation. You really exasperate me at times. (see I like you really free English lesson thrown in) Exactly the same as all the other people you spend so much time criticising. Shame you've been so slow to finally come round but congratulations. Thank you and goodbye, enjoy the rally. | |||
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" It's because "racism" is the modern day sin against the holy ghost so people will react very strongly if you accuse them of it. . Which is actually a good thing in many ways as it shows how socially unacceptable racism now is We need to distinguish between bad racism (not offering a black people jobs) and acceptable racism (I only fuck white people). People doing it on here by labelling acceptable racism as "preference". As you have said, it's also about politeness. Your private view may be that you never fuck black people because you think they are all ugly. Only an arse would articulate that. Personally, I don't see it as progress to have people think, but only indirectly say racist things. I'd much rather they could just be honest and we could talk about. Racism stems from disgust, not fear as is popularly believed. Disgust is learned. If you're bombarded with images of brown people committing terrorists attack, gang grape in India and grooming gangs in Rochdale, it's no wonder the casual viewer isn't going to immediately link brown skin to an attractive trait. So...... Like I said in the other thread but you seemed to skip it conveniently. I'm black. My family is black. I love black people. I definitely have no disgust towards them . But I prefer to have sex with white men mostly. ( Before you get triggered if I find someone attractive and there's a spark, skin colour will not matter. I'm just generally more attracted to white men). So how am I racist?
Mrs
Are there any circumstances that you would consider, I'll say that word twice, consider being intimate with a black guy?
As I said, if I found someone attractive skin colour wouldn't matter. So that's obviously yes. Like Idris Elba. Yes please . Or any of the other black and Asian men I have been intimate with.
Mrs
Then you are arguing with a strawman. You are not excluding an entire race because of their race.
But there collapses your whole argument, as our profile very clearly states that she would rather only play with white guys. and mine non Caucasian women, as that's our preference not our exclusion. You arguing like this just exacerbates the situation. You really exasperate me at times. (see I like you really free English lesson thrown in)
Exactly the same as all the other people you spend so much time criticising. Shame you've been so slow to finally come round but congratulations.
Thank you and goodbye, enjoy the rally."You do realise he's yanking your chain about the left wing thing? He's well known as our resident big mouthed rightist  | |||
"I choose my age limit as 30-50. Does that make me ageist? Or is it my preference?" It's both. What does my head in is that people can't seem to grasp that something can be a preference AND racist. A member of the kkk who won't socialise with black people is, after all, expressing a preference. | |||
"Apparently, well reading the numerous threads that are started almost daily ..we're all allowed them... Can anyone give me a reason why does having certain preferences and stating them cause such a reaction amongst those that are excluded ? Those that find themselves excluded like moan about it as they feel there is an entitlement and that we should fuck them because they think we should. We will play with those who we find attractive to us regardless of there race/skin colour. We don't stipulate any preference for that reason, however, we don't meet single guys and now have had to block them from messaging us because twice in a week we were messaged and we turned down two guys saying we were not looking to meet single guys, at which point they turned nasty and actually accused us of being racist." Yup, I've been accused of being racist on numerous occasions by non white guys, my profile clearly states I'm looking for single, local, verified guys when I do meet. None of them met those preferences. | |||
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"I choose my age limit as 30-50. Does that make me ageist? Or is it my preference? It's both. What does my head in is that people can't seem to grasp that something can be a preference AND racist. A member of the kkk who won't socialise with black people is, after all, expressing a preference. " So why aren’t the women who have BBC only or I only meet black men on their profile getting accused of racism? | |||
"I choose my age limit as 30-50. Does that make me ageist? Or is it my preference? It's both. What does my head in is that people can't seem to grasp that something can be a preference AND racist. A member of the kkk who won't socialise with black people is, after all, expressing a preference. So why aren’t the women who have BBC only or I only meet black men on their profile getting accused of racism? " Oh yes we are. | |||
"I choose my age limit as 30-50. Does that make me ageist? Or is it my preference? It's both. What does my head in is that people can't seem to grasp that something can be a preference AND racist. A member of the kkk who won't socialise with black people is, after all, expressing a preference. So why aren’t the women who have BBC only or I only meet black men on their profile getting accused of racism? " Exactly. It's not colour specific. | |||
"I choose my age limit as 30-50. Does that make me ageist? Or is it my preference? It's both. What does my head in is that people can't seem to grasp that something can be a preference AND racist. A member of the kkk who won't socialise with black people is, after all, expressing a preference. So why aren’t the women who have BBC only or I only meet black men on their profile getting accused of racism? " They sometimes are. | |||
" It's because "racism" is the modern day sin against the holy ghost so people will react very strongly if you accuse them of it. . Which is actually a good thing in many ways as it shows how socially unacceptable racism now is We need to distinguish between bad racism (not offering a black people jobs) and acceptable racism (I only fuck white people). People doing it on here by labelling acceptable racism as "preference". As you have said, it's also about politeness. Your private view may be that you never fuck black people because you think they are all ugly. Only an arse would articulate that. Personally, I don't see it as progress to have people think, but only indirectly say racist things. I'd much rather they could just be honest and we could talk about. Racism stems from disgust, not fear as is popularly believed. Disgust is learned. If you're bombarded with images of brown people committing terrorists attack, gang grape in India and grooming gangs in Rochdale, it's no wonder the casual viewer isn't going to immediately link brown skin to an attractive trait. So...... Like I said in the other thread but you seemed to skip it conveniently. I'm black. My family is black. I love black people. I definitely have no disgust towards them . But I prefer to have sex with white men mostly. ( Before you get triggered if I find someone attractive and there's a spark, skin colour will not matter. I'm just generally more attracted to white men). So how am I racist?
Mrs
Are there any circumstances that you would consider, I'll say that word twice, consider being intimate with a black guy?
As I said, if I found someone attractive skin colour wouldn't matter. So that's obviously yes. Like Idris Elba. Yes please . Or any of the other black and Asian men I have been intimate with.
Mrs
Then you are arguing with a strawman. You are not excluding an entire race because of their race.
But there collapses your whole argument, as our profile very clearly states that she would rather only play with white guys. and mine non Caucasian women, as that's our preference not our exclusion. You arguing like this just exacerbates the situation. You really exasperate me at times. (see I like you really free English lesson thrown in)
Exactly the same as all the other people you spend so much time criticising. Shame you've been so slow to finally come round but congratulations.
Thank you and goodbye, enjoy the rally.
You do realise he's yanking your chain about the left wing thing? He's well known as our resident big mouthed rightist "I think you missed the point here he might think he's right wing, but he acts like a left wing activist. Thought control is a very left wing attribute.
What really makes me laugh is that someone who is so against preferences and ruling people out based on colour, clearly hasn't read their own profile, which states they down want any women over size 16! So it appears a fattist/sizist ism is completely OK and doesn't offend probably close to half of the fab women.
So I can say I don't want to play with fat women, as brokenbrilliance does, but not that I don't want to play with white women.
Personally I think singling people out because of their size is far more likely to cause offense and real upset than colour as a lot more people are bothered about their size and trying to change it. I don't know a single black person who has an issue with being black and wants to change it.
So if we are talking about his favourite pub sign.
No dogs, Irish or fat women. How does that sit with everybody. | |||
" It's because "racism" is the modern day sin against the holy ghost so people will react very strongly if you accuse them of it. . Which is actually a good thing in many ways as it shows how socially unacceptable racism now is We need to distinguish between bad racism (not offering a black people jobs) and acceptable racism (I only fuck white people). People doing it on here by labelling acceptable racism as "preference". As you have said, it's also about politeness. Your private view may be that you never fuck black people because you think they are all ugly. Only an arse would articulate that. Personally, I don't see it as progress to have people think, but only indirectly say racist things. I'd much rather they could just be honest and we could talk about. Racism stems from disgust, not fear as is popularly believed. Disgust is learned. If you're bombarded with images of brown people committing terrorists attack, gang grape in India and grooming gangs in Rochdale, it's no wonder the casual viewer isn't going to immediately link brown skin to an attractive trait. So...... Like I said in the other thread but you seemed to skip it conveniently. I'm black. My family is black. I love black people. I definitely have no disgust towards them . But I prefer to have sex with white men mostly. ( Before you get triggered if I find someone attractive and there's a spark, skin colour will not matter. I'm just generally more attracted to white men). So how am I racist?
Mrs
Are there any circumstances that you would consider, I'll say that word twice, consider being intimate with a black guy?
As I said, if I found someone attractive skin colour wouldn't matter. So that's obviously yes. Like Idris Elba. Yes please . Or any of the other black and Asian men I have been intimate with.
Mrs
Then you are arguing with a strawman. You are not excluding an entire race because of their race.
But there collapses your whole argument, as our profile very clearly states that she would rather only play with white guys. and mine non Caucasian women, as that's our preference not our exclusion. You arguing like this just exacerbates the situation. You really exasperate me at times. (see I like you really free English lesson thrown in)
Exactly the same as all the other people you spend so much time criticising. Shame you've been so slow to finally come round but congratulations.
Thank you and goodbye, enjoy the rally.
You do realise he's yanking your chain about the left wing thing? He's well known as our resident big mouthed rightist
I think you missed the point here he might think he's right wing, but he acts like a left wing activist. Thought control is a very left wing attribute.
What really makes me laugh is that someone who is so against preferences and ruling people out based on colour, clearly hasn't read their own profile, which states they down want any women over size 16! So it appears a fattist/sizist ism is completely OK and doesn't offend probably close to half of the fab women.
So I can say I don't want to play with fat women, as brokenbrilliance does, but not that I don't want to play with white women.
Personally I think singling people out because of their size is far more likely to cause offense and real upset than colour as a lot more people are bothered about their size and trying to change it. I don't know a single black person who has an issue with being black and wants to change it.
So if we are talking about his favourite pub sign.
No dogs, Irish or fat women. How does that sit with everybody. "He's not against people stating preferences. His point is that people should recognise them for what they are. He has openly said some of his own preferences are racist. You are also making the mistake lots of people are making on here that saying something is racist is the same as trying to stop people doing it. | |||
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" It's because "racism" is the modern day sin against the holy ghost so people will react very strongly if you accuse them of it. . Which is actually a good thing in many ways as it shows how socially unacceptable racism now is We need to distinguish between bad racism (not offering a black people jobs) and acceptable racism (I only fuck white people). People doing it on here by labelling acceptable racism as "preference". As you have said, it's also about politeness. Your private view may be that you never fuck black people because you think they are all ugly. Only an arse would articulate that. Personally, I don't see it as progress to have people think, but only indirectly say racist things. I'd much rather they could just be honest and we could talk about. Racism stems from disgust, not fear as is popularly believed. Disgust is learned. If you're bombarded with images of brown people committing terrorists attack, gang grape in India and grooming gangs in Rochdale, it's no wonder the casual viewer isn't going to immediately link brown skin to an attractive trait. So...... Like I said in the other thread but you seemed to skip it conveniently. I'm black. My family is black. I love black people. I definitely have no disgust towards them . But I prefer to have sex with white men mostly. ( Before you get triggered if I find someone attractive and there's a spark, skin colour will not matter. I'm just generally more attracted to white men). So how am I racist?
Mrs
Are there any circumstances that you would consider, I'll say that word twice, consider being intimate with a black guy?
As I said, if I found someone attractive skin colour wouldn't matter. So that's obviously yes. Like Idris Elba. Yes please . Or any of the other black and Asian men I have been intimate with.
Mrs
Then you are arguing with a strawman. You are not excluding an entire race because of their race.
But there collapses your whole argument, as our profile very clearly states that she would rather only play with white guys. and mine non Caucasian women, as that's our preference not our exclusion. You arguing like this just exacerbates the situation. You really exasperate me at times. (see I like you really free English lesson thrown in)
Exactly the same as all the other people you spend so much time criticising. Shame you've been so slow to finally come round but congratulations.
Thank you and goodbye, enjoy the rally.
You do realise he's yanking your chain about the left wing thing? He's well known as our resident big mouthed rightist
I think you missed the point here he might think he's right wing, but he acts like a left wing activist. Thought control is a very left wing attribute.
What really makes me laugh is that someone who is so against preferences and ruling people out based on colour, clearly hasn't read their own profile, which states they down want any women over size 16! So it appears a fattist/sizist ism is completely OK and doesn't offend probably close to half of the fab women.
So I can say I don't want to play with fat women, as brokenbrilliance does, but not that I don't want to play with white women.
Personally I think singling people out because of their size is far more likely to cause offense and real upset than colour as a lot more people are bothered about their size and trying to change it. I don't know a single black person who has an issue with being black and wants to change it.
So if we are talking about his favourite pub sign.
No dogs, Irish or fat women. How does that sit with everybody.
He's not against people stating preferences. His point is that people should recognise them for what they are. He has openly said some of his own preferences are racist.
You are also making the mistake lots of people are making on here that saying something is racist is the same as trying to stop people doing it. "No his point is he knows better about EVERYTHING than anybody else and just can't stop telling them, even about things like racism that he hasn't suffered from and hasn't got a clue about. he is trying to control peoples thought processes, a very left wing approach. Anyway I'm sure he doesn't want you defending him or me discussing in the 3rd party so I'm stopping there | |||
" It's because "racism" is the modern day sin against the holy ghost so people will react very strongly if you accuse them of it. . Which is actually a good thing in many ways as it shows how socially unacceptable racism now is We need to distinguish between bad racism (not offering a black people jobs) and acceptable racism (I only fuck white people). People doing it on here by labelling acceptable racism as "preference". As you have said, it's also about politeness. Your private view may be that you never fuck black people because you think they are all ugly. Only an arse would articulate that. Personally, I don't see it as progress to have people think, but only indirectly say racist things. I'd much rather they could just be honest and we could talk about. Racism stems from disgust, not fear as is popularly believed. Disgust is learned. If you're bombarded with images of brown people committing terrorists attack, gang grape in India and grooming gangs in Rochdale, it's no wonder the casual viewer isn't going to immediately link brown skin to an attractive trait. So...... Like I said in the other thread but you seemed to skip it conveniently. I'm black. My family is black. I love black people. I definitely have no disgust towards them . But I prefer to have sex with white men mostly. ( Before you get triggered if I find someone attractive and there's a spark, skin colour will not matter. I'm just generally more attracted to white men). So how am I racist?
Mrs
Are there any circumstances that you would consider, I'll say that word twice, consider being intimate with a black guy?
As I said, if I found someone attractive skin colour wouldn't matter. So that's obviously yes. Like Idris Elba. Yes please . Or any of the other black and Asian men I have been intimate with.
Mrs
Then you are arguing with a strawman. You are not excluding an entire race because of their race.
But there collapses your whole argument, as our profile very clearly states that she would rather only play with white guys. and mine non Caucasian women, as that's our preference not our exclusion. You arguing like this just exacerbates the situation. You really exasperate me at times. (see I like you really free English lesson thrown in)
Exactly the same as all the other people you spend so much time criticising. Shame you've been so slow to finally come round but congratulations.
Thank you and goodbye, enjoy the rally.
You do realise he's yanking your chain about the left wing thing? He's well known as our resident big mouthed rightist
I think you missed the point here he might think he's right wing, but he acts like a left wing activist. Thought control is a very left wing attribute.
What really makes me laugh is that someone who is so against preferences and ruling people out based on colour, clearly hasn't read their own profile, which states they down want any women over size 16! So it appears a fattist/sizist ism is completely OK and doesn't offend probably close to half of the fab women.
So I can say I don't want to play with fat women, as brokenbrilliance does, but not that I don't want to play with white women.
Personally I think singling people out because of their size is far more likely to cause offense and real upset than colour as a lot more people are bothered about their size and trying to change it. I don't know a single black person who has an issue with being black and wants to change it.
So if we are talking about his favourite pub sign.
No dogs, Irish or fat women. How does that sit with everybody.
He's not against people stating preferences. His point is that people should recognise them for what they are. He has openly said some of his own preferences are racist.
You are also making the mistake lots of people are making on here that saying something is racist is the same as trying to stop people doing it.
No his point is he knows better about EVERYTHING than anybody else and just can't stop telling them, even about things like racism that he hasn't suffered from and hasn't got a clue about. he is trying to control peoples thought processes, a very left wing approach. Anyway I'm sure he doesn't want you defending him or me discussing in the 3rd party so I'm stopping there "There's something deeply ironic about you saying he is trying to control other people's thought processes whilst asserting you know what his thought processes are... | |||
"Apparently, well reading the numerous threads that are started almost daily ..we're all allowed them... Can anyone give me a reason why does having certain preferences and stating them cause such a reaction amongst those that are excluded ?" Just reposting the OP as a reminder, and regarding this, it's probably just because those excluded do not match the preferences, hence why they feel upset or angry. | |||
"I just can’t get my head around how it’s any different to preferring slim/big women, blonde/brunettes, straight/bi. I’m not physically attracted to skinny men but I don’t dislike skinny men! It’s absolutely no different. I’m struggling with this as much as I struggled with the you shouldn’t kiss your kids on the lips thing and you should ask your child for permission to change their nappy! I honestly think that these days people just look for things to take offence at. I love a healthy debate but when something is just so beyond your understanding it’s impossible. " 100% agree with every single word you've said. Just getting trough a normal day without somebody taking offense is nigh on impossible. And it isn't any different, except for some bizarre reason certain white people insist on defending the little poor black people as they can't do it for themselves. Shockingly most black people if not all are proud of who they are and don't want some middle class do gooder defending them and apologising for them getting offended, because they don't give a shit. Once upon a time my wife got a job as assistant bar manager. Tiny little village and most of the older regulars were racist, wouldn't let her serve them or look her in the eye, etc. So she carried on doing her job and being lovely and when she left 2 years later those very same guys held a leaving party. And got her flowers and a present. So how differently do you think it would have gone had some white do gooder landlord jumped in and had a go at the racists and kicked them out of his pub? In their heads vindicated their racism and confirmed their attitude for the rest of their lives. That is what all the white do gooders patrolling social media are currently doing for black people, it doesn't help! | |||
" It's because "racism" is the modern day sin against the holy ghost so people will react very strongly if you accuse them of it. . Which is actually a good thing in many ways as it shows how socially unacceptable racism now is We need to distinguish between bad racism (not offering a black people jobs) and acceptable racism (I only fuck white people). People doing it on here by labelling acceptable racism as "preference". As you have said, it's also about politeness. Your private view may be that you never fuck black people because you think they are all ugly. Only an arse would articulate that. Personally, I don't see it as progress to have people think, but only indirectly say racist things. I'd much rather they could just be honest and we could talk about. Racism stems from disgust, not fear as is popularly believed. Disgust is learned. If you're bombarded with images of brown people committing terrorists attack, gang grape in India and grooming gangs in Rochdale, it's no wonder the casual viewer isn't going to immediately link brown skin to an attractive trait. So...... Like I said in the other thread but you seemed to skip it conveniently. I'm black. My family is black. I love black people. I definitely have no disgust towards them . But I prefer to have sex with white men mostly. ( Before you get triggered if I find someone attractive and there's a spark, skin colour will not matter. I'm just generally more attracted to white men). So how am I racist?
Mrs
Are there any circumstances that you would consider, I'll say that word twice, consider being intimate with a black guy?
As I said, if I found someone attractive skin colour wouldn't matter. So that's obviously yes. Like Idris Elba. Yes please . Or any of the other black and Asian men I have been intimate with.
Mrs
Then you are arguing with a strawman. You are not excluding an entire race because of their race.
But there collapses your whole argument, as our profile very clearly states that she would rather only play with white guys. and mine non Caucasian women, as that's our preference not our exclusion. You arguing like this just exacerbates the situation. You really exasperate me at times. (see I like you really free English lesson thrown in)
Exactly the same as all the other people you spend so much time criticising. Shame you've been so slow to finally come round but congratulations.
Thank you and goodbye, enjoy the rally.
You do realise he's yanking your chain about the left wing thing? He's well known as our resident big mouthed rightist
I think you missed the point here he might think he's right wing, but he acts like a left wing activist. Thought control is a very left wing attribute.
What really makes me laugh is that someone who is so against preferences and ruling people out based on colour, clearly hasn't read their own profile, which states they down want any women over size 16! So it appears a fattist/sizist ism is completely OK and doesn't offend probably close to half of the fab women.
So I can say I don't want to play with fat women, as brokenbrilliance does, but not that I don't want to play with white women.
Personally I think singling people out because of their size is far more likely to cause offense and real upset than colour as a lot more people are bothered about their size and trying to change it. I don't know a single black person who has an issue with being black and wants to change it.
So if we are talking about his favourite pub sign.
No dogs, Irish or fat women. How does that sit with everybody.
He's not against people stating preferences. His point is that people should recognise them for what they are. He has openly said some of his own preferences are racist.
You are also making the mistake lots of people are making on here that saying something is racist is the same as trying to stop people doing it.
No his point is he knows better about EVERYTHING than anybody else and just can't stop telling them, even about things like racism that he hasn't suffered from and hasn't got a clue about. he is trying to control peoples thought processes, a very left wing approach. Anyway I'm sure he doesn't want you defending him or me discussing in the 3rd party so I'm stopping there
There's something deeply ironic about you saying he is trying to control other people's thought processes whilst asserting you know what his thought processes are... "Why is that ironic? He isn't affected by racism, I am. As somebody that has a racial preference for sex and relationship he is trying to tell me my reasoning is wrong and I shouldn't be allowed to. Therefote I am defending something that affects my daily life, he is just sticking his nose in. has he asked you to defend him by the way ? Or is it now your turn to stick up for poor brokenbrilliance because you've decided he needs it? Here we go again. Policing the forums like America polices the world, lol. | |||
"Apparently, well reading the numerous threads that are started almost daily ..we're all allowed them... Can anyone give me a reason why does having certain preferences and stating them cause such a reaction amongst those that are excluded ? If you saw a pub with a sign outside that said "No blacks, no dogs, no irish", could you understand why it would piss off a black, Irish, dog walker? " Lots of pubs don't allow dogs
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"my only prefrence at the moment Yorkshire tea, 1 sugar and dash of milk "Has to be just a dash of milk though! Can't be doing with people & their weak ass brews. No time for that kind of negativity in my life | |||
"my only prefrence at the moment Yorkshire tea, 1 sugar and dash of milk
Has to be just a dash of milk though!
Can't be doing with people & their weak ass brews. No time for that kind of negativity in my life"Proper builders brew for me. | |||
" It's because "racism" is the modern day sin against the holy ghost so people will react very strongly if you accuse them of it. . Which is actually a good thing in many ways as it shows how socially unacceptable racism now is We need to distinguish between bad racism (not offering a black people jobs) and acceptable racism (I only fuck white people). People doing it on here by labelling acceptable racism as "preference". As you have said, it's also about politeness. Your private view may be that you never fuck black people because you think they are all ugly. Only an arse would articulate that. Personally, I don't see it as progress to have people think, but only indirectly say racist things. I'd much rather they could just be honest and we could talk about. Racism stems from disgust, not fear as is popularly believed. Disgust is learned. If you're bombarded with images of brown people committing terrorists attack, gang grape in India and grooming gangs in Rochdale, it's no wonder the casual viewer isn't going to immediately link brown skin to an attractive trait. So...... Like I said in the other thread but you seemed to skip it conveniently. I'm black. My family is black. I love black people. I definitely have no disgust towards them . But I prefer to have sex with white men mostly. ( Before you get triggered if I find someone attractive and there's a spark, skin colour will not matter. I'm just generally more attracted to white men). So how am I racist?
Mrs
Are there any circumstances that you would consider, I'll say that word twice, consider being intimate with a black guy?
As I said, if I found someone attractive skin colour wouldn't matter. So that's obviously yes. Like Idris Elba. Yes please . Or any of the other black and Asian men I have been intimate with.
Mrs
Then you are arguing with a strawman. You are not excluding an entire race because of their race.
But there collapses your whole argument, as our profile very clearly states that she would rather only play with white guys. and mine non Caucasian women, as that's our preference not our exclusion. You arguing like this just exacerbates the situation. You really exasperate me at times. (see I like you really free English lesson thrown in)
Exactly the same as all the other people you spend so much time criticising. Shame you've been so slow to finally come round but congratulations.
Thank you and goodbye, enjoy the rally.
You do realise he's yanking your chain about the left wing thing? He's well known as our resident big mouthed rightist
I think you missed the point here he might think he's right wing, but he acts like a left wing activist. Thought control is a very left wing attribute.
What really makes me laugh is that someone who is so against preferences and ruling people out based on colour, clearly hasn't read their own profile, which states they down want any women over size 16! So it appears a fattist/sizist ism is completely OK and doesn't offend probably close to half of the fab women.
So I can say I don't want to play with fat women, as brokenbrilliance does, but not that I don't want to play with white women.
Personally I think singling people out because of their size is far more likely to cause offense and real upset than colour as a lot more people are bothered about their size and trying to change it. I don't know a single black person who has an issue with being black and wants to change it.
So if we are talking about his favourite pub sign.
No dogs, Irish or fat women. How does that sit with everybody.
He's not against people stating preferences. His point is that people should recognise them for what they are. He has openly said some of his own preferences are racist.
You are also making the mistake lots of people are making on here that saying something is racist is the same as trying to stop people doing it.
No his point is he knows better about EVERYTHING than anybody else and just can't stop telling them, even about things like racism that he hasn't suffered from and hasn't got a clue about. he is trying to control peoples thought processes, a very left wing approach. Anyway I'm sure he doesn't want you defending him or me discussing in the 3rd party so I'm stopping there
There's something deeply ironic about you saying he is trying to control other people's thought processes whilst asserting you know what his thought processes are...
Why is that ironic? He isn't affected by racism, I am. As somebody that has a racial preference for sex and relationship he is trying to tell me my reasoning is wrong and I shouldn't be allowed to. Therefote I am defending something that affects my daily life, he is just sticking his nose in.
has he asked you to defend him by the way ? Or is it now your turn to stick up for poor brokenbrilliance because you've decided he needs it?
Here we go again. Policing the forums like America polices the world, lol. "I am just taking up the thread of the argument as I think it's an interesting subject. The irony arises because you are accusing him of telling people how to think whilst asserting you know how he really thinks, contrary to what he has said himself. Who's policing? You're stating your view in strong terns and telling others they are wrong. Is that policing? | |||
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"my only prefrence at the moment Yorkshire tea, 1 sugar and dash of milk
Has to be just a dash of milk though!
Can't be doing with people & their weak ass brews. No time for that kind of negativity in my life
Proper builders brew for me. "I'm not satisfied unless it looks like tar | |||
"Apparently, well reading the numerous threads that are started almost daily ..we're all allowed them... Can anyone give me a reason why does having certain preferences and stating them cause such a reaction amongst those that are excluded ? If you saw a pub with a sign outside that said "No blacks, no dogs, no irish", could you understand why it would piss off a black, Irish, dog walker? That's a very poor analogy though isn't it. Big difference from letting somebody stick their cock inside you najed to allowing them to have a drink at a bar fully dressed. So this argument just needs to be dropped it holds zero credibility. One is a personal experience the other common decency. Ok tell me a comparable analogy where it's totally cool to exclude people based on their race? In the instance of people having a preference not to meet people of a certain race excluding them because of their race or because of a persons attraction preference? And there is a difference before you suggest it's the same thing - if someone said they aren't attracted to blonde haired blue eyed gym fit people then no-one would bat an eyelid, so what's the difference between that and saying you're not attracted to people with other physical features such as skin colour? Now of course if the underlying reason for that lack of attraction is based purely on bigotry of some form then it's another matter but if it's purely that you don't personally find someone of whatever type sexually attractive then I don't see an issue with it. Back to the OP though - a lot of the time people will moan because they feel excluded by a particular preference, which always makes me laugh as it suggests they have none of their own, which in turn suggests either they're not fussy, or are desperate or are lying - none of which would be particularly attractive. I think you answered your own question. When it comes to body shape, we can explain where most preferences come from based on indirect signals of health and fitness for reproduction. Ultimately, you could say that a profile that says they won't meet women over size 16 is body shaming, or whatever the buzz word is. Since there's nothing our genes love more than diversity, I really struggle to think of the natural reason a skin colour would make someone find an otherwise attractive person, unattractive. Hence, I'm willing to bet the real reason is learned and psychological, not genetic or biologically based. It also helps when many people confirm this to you privately. So the fact that I prefer non white females for both sex and relationship makes me a racist does it. Seriously you don't have a clue what you're talking about. The most important people in my life are my mum and daughter and my wife. My best friend is white, my best man at my upcoming wedding is a white woman. My preference for sex and relationship is my black partner. Please analyse that with your normal level of nonsense and explain to me how my sexual preference makes me a racist? Doesn't fit very well into your left wing PC ethos does it? If I preferred natural blondes or brunettes or women with big or small boobs you're OK with that but not if it's because of their skin colour. Thats because you are absolute the worst of the Liberal left. You are petrified of offending some poor little defenceless black person with a dose of reality. You actually don't understand what preference is because you have been so indoctrinated with the PC bollocks that you genuinely can't see past doing the white person's so called right thing. Saying you don't want to have sex with a black person or white person is exactly the same as saying you don't want to have sex with somebody because they have fake boobs, blonde hair, etc. And until you realise and accept that then you are political correctness gone wrong. The same sort of person that brings this current generation of kids up to believe that they can't lose, that if they cry on sports day then they get to run a race on their own so they can win. Sometimes you just aren't the right fit at something for various reasons and if it's race or hair colour it is exactly the same thing. If the cause is bigotry and exclusion due to disliking people because of their race then it is utterly disgusting if it is just a preference because you prefer th look of that person and that is what turns you on then I feel terribly sorry for you that you can't see the difference. As much as is made me chuckle to be called left, I'll cherish this one, I was wondering if you could actually answer my question and give me a comparable analogy where it's totally cool to exclude people based on their race? There isn't one. Excluding people on the basis of their ethnicity from your pool of potential sexual partners is racist (in the sense that you are making a blanket negative judgment about a class of people based on their ethnicity#) but that's fine because we are all entitled to complete personal autonomy when it comes to who we have sex with. # I anticipate the objection (not from you) . "I don't make a blanket negative judgment, I just don't fancy people of ethnicity x", but I don't think that flies. Someone might say he wouldn't employ black people because he never gets on with them. Even if he were being honest, we'd still say he was being racist I'm on the left now too comrade, when's my welcoming party? Why is it so hard for people to admit they have some racist preferences? I certainly do. The level of cognitive dissonance require to believe you could go through life and not pick any up is overwhelmingly me. Oh I do, I can't stand two sets of people. Passionate scots who don't live in Scotland, but hate everything about the country that harbors them, always wish England ill in every endeavour but won't bugger off back to scotland. And even worse, middle class white English people that love telling everybody how to live, sticking their nose in other people's affairs and telling them what they should do about it, very loudly all over the world while they look fot their nearest English pub while visiting the Yemen. An absolute holiday ruined if we accidentally go to a white english resort populated with the gobby twats. That is definitely my racism. " | |||
" Which of these statements do you think would piss off more people? 1. I'm on fab hoping to meet a guy with a nice six pack and broad shoulders 2. Don't message me if you're a fat fuck who looks permanently pregnant with chins like tiers on a wedding cake " Clearly the second option is more inflammatory and will piss people off ... however consider options less obviously written to prove a point 1. No gingers 2. No asians A. Big boobs only B. Skinny girls only In all cases the same term of phrase has been used in both options, and none of the “preferences” are options which can be filtered on fab ao its legitimate to want to reference them on the profile ... but i would be willing to bet people will take more offence to some than others ... not because of the langauage used, but because they infer additional meaning to the words themselves and take offence to the additional meaning | |||
"Apparently, well reading the numerous threads that are started almost daily ..we're all allowed them... Can anyone give me a reason why does having certain preferences and stating them cause such a reaction amongst those that are excluded ?" We all are allowed preferences that’s what makes us different and unique | |||
"I just can’t get my head around how it’s any different to preferring slim/big women, blonde/brunettes, straight/bi. I’m not physically attracted to skinny men but I don’t dislike skinny men! It’s absolutely no different. I’m struggling with this as much as I struggled with the you shouldn’t kiss your kids on the lips thing and you should ask your child for permission to change their nappy! I honestly think that these days people just look for things to take offence at. I love a healthy debate but when something is just so beyond your understanding it’s impossible. " This is why I asked the question.. I couldn't figure out why having a preference (the thread that prompted my op was about slim ladies) caused some folk to be annoyed.. I don't get it ..my gender age race and many many other factors height size all exclude me from many folks sexual preference.. hey ho I focus my interest energy and efforts on those that do include me.. if folk didn't have an informative profile I might waste some of that effort on those that weren't going to be interested in me for whatever reason. Anyway it's been an interesting read .. I read tea and the kettle is on. | |||
"I choose my age limit as 30-50. Does that make me ageist? Or is it my preference? It's both. What does my head in is that people can't seem to grasp that something can be a preference AND racist. A member of the kkk who won't socialise with black people is, after all, expressing a preference. " It can be both but is not automatically both which is what people are implying I wont fuck a black man because he is black is both a preference and racist I wont fuck a black man because his appearance is not visually stimulating to me and does not turn me on ... just a preference | |||
" It's because "racism" is the modern day sin against the holy ghost so people will react very strongly if you accuse them of it. . Which is actually a good thing in many ways as it shows how socially unacceptable racism now is We need to distinguish between bad racism (not offering a black people jobs) and acceptable racism (I only fuck white people). People doing it on here by labelling acceptable racism as "preference". As you have said, it's also about politeness. Your private view may be that you never fuck black people because you think they are all ugly. Only an arse would articulate that. Personally, I don't see it as progress to have people think, but only indirectly say racist things. I'd much rather they could just be honest and we could talk about. Racism stems from disgust, not fear as is popularly believed. Disgust is learned. If you're bombarded with images of brown people committing terrorists attack, gang grape in India and grooming gangs in Rochdale, it's no wonder the casual viewer isn't going to immediately link brown skin to an attractive trait. So...... Like I said in the other thread but you seemed to skip it conveniently. I'm black. My family is black. I love black people. I definitely have no disgust towards them . But I prefer to have sex with white men mostly. ( Before you get triggered if I find someone attractive and there's a spark, skin colour will not matter. I'm just generally more attracted to white men). So how am I racist?
Mrs
Are there any circumstances that you would consider, I'll say that word twice, consider being intimate with a black guy?
As I said, if I found someone attractive skin colour wouldn't matter. So that's obviously yes. Like Idris Elba. Yes please . Or any of the other black and Asian men I have been intimate with.
Mrs
Then you are arguing with a strawman. You are not excluding an entire race because of their race.
But there collapses your whole argument, as our profile very clearly states that she would rather only play with white guys. and mine non Caucasian women, as that's our preference not our exclusion. You arguing like this just exacerbates the situation. You really exasperate me at times. (see I like you really free English lesson thrown in)
Exactly the same as all the other people you spend so much time criticising. Shame you've been so slow to finally come round but congratulations.
Thank you and goodbye, enjoy the rally.
You do realise he's yanking your chain about the left wing thing? He's well known as our resident big mouthed rightist
I think you missed the point here he might think he's right wing, but he acts like a left wing activist. Thought control is a very left wing attribute.
What really makes me laugh is that someone who is so against preferences and ruling people out based on colour, clearly hasn't read their own profile, which states they down want any women over size 16! So it appears a fattist/sizist ism is completely OK and doesn't offend probably close to half of the fab women.
So I can say I don't want to play with fat women, as brokenbrilliance does, but not that I don't want to play with white women.
Personally I think singling people out because of their size is far more likely to cause offense and real upset than colour as a lot more people are bothered about their size and trying to change it. I don't know a single black person who has an issue with being black and wants to change it.
So if we are talking about his favourite pub sign.
No dogs, Irish or fat women. How does that sit with everybody.
He's not against people stating preferences. His point is that people should recognise them for what they are. He has openly said some of his own preferences are racist.
You are also making the mistake lots of people are making on here that saying something is racist is the same as trying to stop people doing it.
No his point is he knows better about EVERYTHING than anybody else and just can't stop telling them, even about things like racism that he hasn't suffered from and hasn't got a clue about. he is trying to control peoples thought processes, a very left wing approach. Anyway I'm sure he doesn't want you defending him or me discussing in the 3rd party so I'm stopping there "Actually I appreciated it a lot since KLP seems to be the only person that actually grasps what I'm saying and isn't arguing a strawman. I'm interested to know why racism effects you more than me, assuming it's the white MR or the couple. It's a slow day at the rally... | |||
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"When people so freely state no Asians in their profile. It can influence others to think “oh gosh, quite a few people don’t meet Asians, perhaps something is wrong about them that I don’t know about”" Just like people who state dont meet bi? Or dont meet smokers? Or dont accomodate ... oh no shouldnt i accomodate? If you cant make your own mind up about who and how you want to meet and have to take cues from other peoples profiles then i think the level of confusion you have about your own life if a bigger issue for you to worry about | |||
"When people so freely state no Asians in their profile. It can influence others to think “oh gosh, quite a few people don’t meet Asians, perhaps something is wrong about them that I don’t know about”" Also ... and i apologise if it offends as i know it wasnt asked for ... but the likihood is your profile is being passed over for many reasons other than being asian ... lack of photos, you are relatively short (yep i am heightist so shoot me) and the fact that it suggests you are cheating would be 3 reasons for me ... add to that how many single guys are on here to the ratio of women and you might find you are focussing in on an element of your profile that has nothing to do with your lack of success | |||
"When people so freely state no Asians in their profile. It can influence others to think “oh gosh, quite a few people don’t meet Asians, perhaps something is wrong about them that I don’t know about” Just like people who state dont meet bi? Or dont meet smokers? Or dont accomodate ... oh no shouldnt i accomodate? If you cant make your own mind up about who and how you want to meet and have to take cues from other peoples profiles then i think the level of confusion you have about your own life if a bigger issue for you to worry about " People get influenced by subliminal messages all the time. | |||
"When people so freely state no Asians in their profile. It can influence others to think “oh gosh, quite a few people don’t meet Asians, perhaps something is wrong about them that I don’t know about” Also ... and i apologise if it offends as i know it wasnt asked for ... but the likihood is your profile is being passed over for many reasons other than being asian ... lack of photos, you are relatively short (yep i am heightist so shoot me) and the fact that it suggests you are cheating would be 3 reasons for me ... add to that how many single guys are on here to the ratio of women and you might find you are focussing in on an element of your profile that has nothing to do with your lack of success " Don’t get me wrong, I am not posting to vent my lack of success. I don’t really care in that respect. I’m talking very broadly and be more theoretical about this issue. | |||
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" It's because "racism" is the modern day sin against the holy ghost so people will react very strongly if you accuse them of it. . Which is actually a good thing in many ways as it shows how socially unacceptable racism now is We need to distinguish between bad racism (not offering a black people jobs) and acceptable racism (I only fuck white people). People doing it on here by labelling acceptable racism as "preference". As you have said, it's also about politeness. Your private view may be that you never fuck black people because you think they are all ugly. Only an arse would articulate that. Personally, I don't see it as progress to have people think, but only indirectly say racist things. I'd much rather they could just be honest and we could talk about. Racism stems from disgust, not fear as is popularly believed. Disgust is learned. If you're bombarded with images of brown people committing terrorists attack, gang grape in India and grooming gangs in Rochdale, it's no wonder the casual viewer isn't going to immediately link brown skin to an attractive trait. So...... Like I said in the other thread but you seemed to skip it conveniently. I'm black. My family is black. I love black people. I definitely have no disgust towards them . But I prefer to have sex with white men mostly. ( Before you get triggered if I find someone attractive and there's a spark, skin colour will not matter. I'm just generally more attracted to white men). So how am I racist?
Mrs
Are there any circumstances that you would consider, I'll say that word twice, consider being intimate with a black guy?
As I said, if I found someone attractive skin colour wouldn't matter. So that's obviously yes. Like Idris Elba. Yes please . Or any of the other black and Asian men I have been intimate with.
Mrs
Then you are arguing with a strawman. You are not excluding an entire race because of their race.
But there collapses your whole argument, as our profile very clearly states that she would rather only play with white guys. and mine non Caucasian women, as that's our preference not our exclusion. You arguing like this just exacerbates the situation. You really exasperate me at times. (see I like you really free English lesson thrown in)
Exactly the same as all the other people you spend so much time criticising. Shame you've been so slow to finally come round but congratulations.
Thank you and goodbye, enjoy the rally.
You do realise he's yanking your chain about the left wing thing? He's well known as our resident big mouthed rightist
I think you missed the point here he might think he's right wing, but he acts like a left wing activist. Thought control is a very left wing attribute.
What really makes me laugh is that someone who is so against preferences and ruling people out based on colour, clearly hasn't read their own profile, which states they down want any women over size 16! So it appears a fattist/sizist ism is completely OK and doesn't offend probably close to half of the fab women.
So I can say I don't want to play with fat women, as brokenbrilliance does, but not that I don't want to play with white women.
Personally I think singling people out because of their size is far more likely to cause offense and real upset than colour as a lot more people are bothered about their size and trying to change it. I don't know a single black person who has an issue with being black and wants to change it.
So if we are talking about his favourite pub sign.
No dogs, Irish or fat women. How does that sit with everybody.
He's not against people stating preferences. His point is that people should recognise them for what they are. He has openly said some of his own preferences are racist.
You are also making the mistake lots of people are making on here that saying something is racist is the same as trying to stop people doing it.
No his point is he knows better about EVERYTHING than anybody else and just can't stop telling them, even about things like racism that he hasn't suffered from and hasn't got a clue about. he is trying to control peoples thought processes, a very left wing approach. Anyway I'm sure he doesn't want you defending him or me discussing in the 3rd party so I'm stopping there
There's something deeply ironic about you saying he is trying to control other people's thought processes whilst asserting you know what his thought processes are...
Why is that ironic? He isn't affected by racism, I am. As somebody that has a racial preference for sex and relationship he is trying to tell me my reasoning is wrong and I shouldn't be allowed to. Therefote I am defending something that affects my daily life, he is just sticking his nose in.
has he asked you to defend him by the way ? Or is it now your turn to stick up for poor brokenbrilliance because you've decided he needs it?
Here we go again. Policing the forums like America polices the world, lol.
I am just taking up the thread of the argument as I think it's an interesting subject.
The irony arises because you are accusing him of telling people how to think whilst asserting you know how he really thinks, contrary to what he has said himself.
Who's policing? You're stating your view in strong terns and telling others they are wrong. Is that policing? "Sorry, boring trolling. Find somebody else to play with, you haven't got anything to say that interests me so I'll just ignore you from now. | |||
" It's because "racism" is the modern day sin against the holy ghost so people will react very strongly if you accuse them of it. . Which is actually a good thing in many ways as it shows how socially unacceptable racism now is We need to distinguish between bad racism (not offering a black people jobs) and acceptable racism (I only fuck white people). People doing it on here by labelling acceptable racism as "preference". As you have said, it's also about politeness. Your private view may be that you never fuck black people because you think they are all ugly. Only an arse would articulate that. Personally, I don't see it as progress to have people think, but only indirectly say racist things. I'd much rather they could just be honest and we could talk about. Racism stems from disgust, not fear as is popularly believed. Disgust is learned. If you're bombarded with images of brown people committing terrorists attack, gang grape in India and grooming gangs in Rochdale, it's no wonder the casual viewer isn't going to immediately link brown skin to an attractive trait. So...... Like I said in the other thread but you seemed to skip it conveniently. I'm black. My family is black. I love black people. I definitely have no disgust towards them . But I prefer to have sex with white men mostly. ( Before you get triggered if I find someone attractive and there's a spark, skin colour will not matter. I'm just generally more attracted to white men). So how am I racist?
Mrs
Are there any circumstances that you would consider, I'll say that word twice, consider being intimate with a black guy?
As I said, if I found someone attractive skin colour wouldn't matter. So that's obviously yes. Like Idris Elba. Yes please . Or any of the other black and Asian men I have been intimate with.
Mrs
Then you are arguing with a strawman. You are not excluding an entire race because of their race.
But there collapses your whole argument, as our profile very clearly states that she would rather only play with white guys. and mine non Caucasian women, as that's our preference not our exclusion. You arguing like this just exacerbates the situation. You really exasperate me at times. (see I like you really free English lesson thrown in)
Exactly the same as all the other people you spend so much time criticising. Shame you've been so slow to finally come round but congratulations.
Thank you and goodbye, enjoy the rally.
You do realise he's yanking your chain about the left wing thing? He's well known as our resident big mouthed rightist
I think you missed the point here he might think he's right wing, but he acts like a left wing activist. Thought control is a very left wing attribute.
What really makes me laugh is that someone who is so against preferences and ruling people out based on colour, clearly hasn't read their own profile, which states they down want any women over size 16! So it appears a fattist/sizist ism is completely OK and doesn't offend probably close to half of the fab women.
So I can say I don't want to play with fat women, as brokenbrilliance does, but not that I don't want to play with white women.
Personally I think singling people out because of their size is far more likely to cause offense and real upset than colour as a lot more people are bothered about their size and trying to change it. I don't know a single black person who has an issue with being black and wants to change it.
So if we are talking about his favourite pub sign.
No dogs, Irish or fat women. How does that sit with everybody.
He's not against people stating preferences. His point is that people should recognise them for what they are. He has openly said some of his own preferences are racist.
You are also making the mistake lots of people are making on here that saying something is racist is the same as trying to stop people doing it.
No his point is he knows better about EVERYTHING than anybody else and just can't stop telling them, even about things like racism that he hasn't suffered from and hasn't got a clue about. he is trying to control peoples thought processes, a very left wing approach. Anyway I'm sure he doesn't want you defending him or me discussing in the 3rd party so I'm stopping there
Actually I appreciated it a lot since KLP seems to be the only person that actually grasps what I'm saying and isn't arguing a strawman.
I'm interested to know why racism effects you more than me, assuming it's the white MR or the couple. It's a slow day at the rally... "So you are still going to deflect, lol. And yes I did. Because I see my wife and family directly affected by racism every single day, looks, snigger disapprovement, etc. How about you or are you too busy avoiding fat people. Could you explain that one as well. You very explicitly in your profile "aren't looking for people over size 16" explain and justify how that very negative way of putting that is OK? So you're a size bigot. You know that saying about glass houses and stones? You're flinging them all over with abandon | |||
" It's because "racism" is the modern day sin against the holy ghost so people will react very strongly if you accuse them of it. . Which is actually a good thing in many ways as it shows how socially unacceptable racism now is We need to distinguish between bad racism (not offering a black people jobs) and acceptable racism (I only fuck white people). People doing it on here by labelling acceptable racism as "preference". As you have said, it's also about politeness. Your private view may be that you never fuck black people because you think they are all ugly. Only an arse would articulate that. Personally, I don't see it as progress to have people think, but only indirectly say racist things. I'd much rather they could just be honest and we could talk about. Racism stems from disgust, not fear as is popularly believed. Disgust is learned. If you're bombarded with images of brown people committing terrorists attack, gang grape in India and grooming gangs in Rochdale, it's no wonder the casual viewer isn't going to immediately link brown skin to an attractive trait. So...... Like I said in the other thread but you seemed to skip it conveniently. I'm black. My family is black. I love black people. I definitely have no disgust towards them . But I prefer to have sex with white men mostly. ( Before you get triggered if I find someone attractive and there's a spark, skin colour will not matter. I'm just generally more attracted to white men). So how am I racist?
Mrs
Are there any circumstances that you would consider, I'll say that word twice, consider being intimate with a black guy?
As I said, if I found someone attractive skin colour wouldn't matter. So that's obviously yes. Like Idris Elba. Yes please . Or any of the other black and Asian men I have been intimate with.
Mrs
Then you are arguing with a strawman. You are not excluding an entire race because of their race.
But there collapses your whole argument, as our profile very clearly states that she would rather only play with white guys. and mine non Caucasian women, as that's our preference not our exclusion. You arguing like this just exacerbates the situation. You really exasperate me at times. (see I like you really free English lesson thrown in)
Exactly the same as all the other people you spend so much time criticising. Shame you've been so slow to finally come round but congratulations.
Thank you and goodbye, enjoy the rally.
You do realise he's yanking your chain about the left wing thing? He's well known as our resident big mouthed rightist
I think you missed the point here he might think he's right wing, but he acts like a left wing activist. Thought control is a very left wing attribute.
What really makes me laugh is that someone who is so against preferences and ruling people out based on colour, clearly hasn't read their own profile, which states they down want any women over size 16! So it appears a fattist/sizist ism is completely OK and doesn't offend probably close to half of the fab women.
So I can say I don't want to play with fat women, as brokenbrilliance does, but not that I don't want to play with white women.
Personally I think singling people out because of their size is far more likely to cause offense and real upset than colour as a lot more people are bothered about their size and trying to change it. I don't know a single black person who has an issue with being black and wants to change it.
So if we are talking about his favourite pub sign.
No dogs, Irish or fat women. How does that sit with everybody.
He's not against people stating preferences. His point is that people should recognise them for what they are. He has openly said some of his own preferences are racist.
You are also making the mistake lots of people are making on here that saying something is racist is the same as trying to stop people doing it.
No his point is he knows better about EVERYTHING than anybody else and just can't stop telling them, even about things like racism that he hasn't suffered from and hasn't got a clue about. he is trying to control peoples thought processes, a very left wing approach. Anyway I'm sure he doesn't want you defending him or me discussing in the 3rd party so I'm stopping there
Actually I appreciated it a lot since KLP seems to be the only person that actually grasps what I'm saying and isn't arguing a strawman.
I'm interested to know why racism effects you more than me, assuming it's the white MR or the couple. It's a slow day at the rally... "Oh and I also have to justify, or at least I'm expected to, to white people why I can't marry a nice white English girl and stop encouraging immigration, etc. So yes I would say it very directly affects me and mine. Anyway, back to your fat bigotry, what's wrong with large people over size 16? | |||
" Anyway, back to your fat bigotry, what's wrong with large people over size 16?" Oh apparently its genetics that mean men are only attracted to average size women and something to do with it being a sign of our poor health ... or so i am told by people who incorrectly guess my dress size then instantly lose their boner .... they mustn’t be held accountable for their genetics | |||
"Apparently, well reading the numerous threads that are started almost daily ..we're all allowed them... Can anyone give me a reason why does having certain preferences and stating them cause such a reaction amongst those that are excluded ? If you saw a pub with a sign outside that said "No blacks, no dogs, no irish", could you understand why it would piss off a black, Irish, dog walker? That's a very poor analogy though isn't it. Big difference from letting somebody stick their cock inside you najed to allowing them to have a drink at a bar fully dressed. So this argument just needs to be dropped it holds zero credibility. One is a personal experience the other common decency. Ok tell me a comparable analogy where it's totally cool to exclude people based on their race? In the instance of people having a preference not to meet people of a certain race excluding them because of their race or because of a persons attraction preference? And there is a difference before you suggest it's the same thing - if someone said they aren't attracted to blonde haired blue eyed gym fit people then no-one would bat an eyelid, so what's the difference between that and saying you're not attracted to people with other physical features such as skin colour? Now of course if the underlying reason for that lack of attraction is based purely on bigotry of some form then it's another matter but if it's purely that you don't personally find someone of whatever type sexually attractive then I don't see an issue with it. Back to the OP though - a lot of the time people will moan because they feel excluded by a particular preference, which always makes me laugh as it suggests they have none of their own, which in turn suggests either they're not fussy, or are desperate or are lying - none of which would be particularly attractive. I think you answered your own question. When it comes to body shape, we can explain where most preferences come from based on indirect signals of health and fitness for reproduction. Ultimately, you could say that a profile that says they won't meet women over size 16 is body shaming, or whatever the buzz word is. Since there's nothing our genes love more than diversity, I really struggle to think of the natural reason a skin colour would make someone find an otherwise attractive person, unattractive. Hence, I'm willing to bet the real reason is learned and psychological, not genetic or biologically based. It also helps when many people confirm this to you privately. So the fact that I prefer non white females for both sex and relationship makes me a racist does it. Seriously you don't have a clue what you're talking about. The most important people in my life are my mum and daughter and my wife. My best friend is white, my best man at my upcoming wedding is a white woman. My preference for sex and relationship is my black partner. Please analyse that with your normal level of nonsense and explain to me how my sexual preference makes me a racist? Doesn't fit very well into your left wing PC ethos does it? If I preferred natural blondes or brunettes or women with big or small boobs you're OK with that but not if it's because of their skin colour. Thats because you are absolute the worst of the Liberal left. You are petrified of offending some poor little defenceless black person with a dose of reality. You actually don't understand what preference is because you have been so indoctrinated with the PC bollocks that you genuinely can't see past doing the white person's so called right thing. Saying you don't want to have sex with a black person or white person is exactly the same as saying you don't want to have sex with somebody because they have fake boobs, blonde hair, etc. And until you realise and accept that then you are political correctness gone wrong. The same sort of person that brings this current generation of kids up to believe that they can't lose, that if they cry on sports day then they get to run a race on their own so they can win. Sometimes you just aren't the right fit at something for various reasons and if it's race or hair colour it is exactly the same thing. If the cause is bigotry and exclusion due to disliking people because of their race then it is utterly disgusting if it is just a preference because you prefer th look of that person and that is what turns you on then I feel terribly sorry for you that you can't see the difference. " Well said | |||
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" It's because "racism" is the modern day sin against the holy ghost so people will react very strongly if you accuse them of it. . Which is actually a good thing in many ways as it shows how socially unacceptable racism now is We need to distinguish between bad racism (not offering a black people jobs) and acceptable racism (I only fuck white people). People doing it on here by labelling acceptable racism as "preference". As you have said, it's also about politeness. Your private view may be that you never fuck black people because you think they are all ugly. Only an arse would articulate that. Personally, I don't see it as progress to have people think, but only indirectly say racist things. I'd much rather they could just be honest and we could talk about. Racism stems from disgust, not fear as is popularly believed. Disgust is learned. If you're bombarded with images of brown people committing terrorists attack, gang grape in India and grooming gangs in Rochdale, it's no wonder the casual viewer isn't going to immediately link brown skin to an attractive trait. So...... Like I said in the other thread but you seemed to skip it conveniently. I'm black. My family is black. I love black people. I definitely have no disgust towards them . But I prefer to have sex with white men mostly. ( Before you get triggered if I find someone attractive and there's a spark, skin colour will not matter. I'm just generally more attracted to white men). So how am I racist?
Mrs
Are there any circumstances that you would consider, I'll say that word twice, consider being intimate with a black guy?
As I said, if I found someone attractive skin colour wouldn't matter. So that's obviously yes. Like Idris Elba. Yes please . Or any of the other black and Asian men I have been intimate with.
Mrs
Then you are arguing with a strawman. You are not excluding an entire race because of their race.
But there collapses your whole argument, as our profile very clearly states that she would rather only play with white guys. and mine non Caucasian women, as that's our preference not our exclusion. You arguing like this just exacerbates the situation. You really exasperate me at times. (see I like you really free English lesson thrown in)
Exactly the same as all the other people you spend so much time criticising. Shame you've been so slow to finally come round but congratulations.
Thank you and goodbye, enjoy the rally.
You do realise he's yanking your chain about the left wing thing? He's well known as our resident big mouthed rightist
I think you missed the point here he might think he's right wing, but he acts like a left wing activist. Thought control is a very left wing attribute.
What really makes me laugh is that someone who is so against preferences and ruling people out based on colour, clearly hasn't read their own profile, which states they down want any women over size 16! So it appears a fattist/sizist ism is completely OK and doesn't offend probably close to half of the fab women.
So I can say I don't want to play with fat women, as brokenbrilliance does, but not that I don't want to play with white women.
Personally I think singling people out because of their size is far more likely to cause offense and real upset than colour as a lot more people are bothered about their size and trying to change it. I don't know a single black person who has an issue with being black and wants to change it.
So if we are talking about his favourite pub sign.
No dogs, Irish or fat women. How does that sit with everybody.
He's not against people stating preferences. His point is that people should recognise them for what they are. He has openly said some of his own preferences are racist.
You are also making the mistake lots of people are making on here that saying something is racist is the same as trying to stop people doing it.
No his point is he knows better about EVERYTHING than anybody else and just can't stop telling them, even about things like racism that he hasn't suffered from and hasn't got a clue about. he is trying to control peoples thought processes, a very left wing approach. Anyway I'm sure he doesn't want you defending him or me discussing in the 3rd party so I'm stopping there
Actually I appreciated it a lot since KLP seems to be the only person that actually grasps what I'm saying and isn't arguing a strawman.
I'm interested to know why racism effects you more than me, assuming it's the white MR or the couple. It's a slow day at the rally...
So you are still going to deflect, lol. And yes I did.
Because I see my wife and family directly affected by racism every single day, looks, snigger disapprovement, etc. How about you or are you too busy avoiding fat people.
Could you explain that one as well. You very explicitly in your profile "aren't looking for people over size 16" explain and justify how that very negative way of putting that is OK? So you're a size bigot.
You know that saying about glass houses and stones? You're flinging them all over with abandon "Agreed. I’ll look forward to the explanation | |||
"It was ineveitable that the thread would end up being dominated by the racial thing . Anyone who has a preference of any sort will be accused of some kind of ism . Size , age , skin colour , sexual orientation , etc...... Anyone who has absolutely no preference will be accused of having no standards , and have the “ they will shag anything “ card thrown at them . And we should know that as it’s happened to us no end of times . People would regularly suggest we were just looking to shag our way through the site , and that we were just looking for notches . And that’s just because we weren’t bothered in the slightest by race , size , colour , or any of the usual isms we so often see on people’s preference lists . The only things that bothered us were cleanliness , respect , and personality . We played with every race and colour , and although when we started so long ago we said we preferred slim to average playmates , we soon discarded that and enjoyed just as much fun with larger people too . From 18 to 80 we had fun with them , and that’s probably why we are satiated now . We now have the ultimate preference - we prefer not to pay with anyone else at all !" Brilliant!!
It's crazy how entitled people are but they mostly can't see it in themselves.
P.S. People that don't fuck are terrible. Terrible!  | |||
" It's because "racism" is the modern day sin against the holy ghost so people will react very strongly if you accuse them of it. . Which is actually a good thing in many ways as it shows how socially unacceptable racism now is We need to distinguish between bad racism (not offering a black people jobs) and acceptable racism (I only fuck white people). People doing it on here by labelling acceptable racism as "preference". As you have said, it's also about politeness. Your private view may be that you never fuck black people because you think they are all ugly. Only an arse would articulate that. Personally, I don't see it as progress to have people think, but only indirectly say racist things. I'd much rather they could just be honest and we could talk about. Racism stems from disgust, not fear as is popularly believed. Disgust is learned. If you're bombarded with images of brown people committing terrorists attack, gang grape in India and grooming gangs in Rochdale, it's no wonder the casual viewer isn't going to immediately link brown skin to an attractive trait. So...... Like I said in the other thread but you seemed to skip it conveniently. I'm black. My family is black. I love black people. I definitely have no disgust towards them . But I prefer to have sex with white men mostly. ( Before you get triggered if I find someone attractive and there's a spark, skin colour will not matter. I'm just generally more attracted to white men). So how am I racist?
Mrs
Are there any circumstances that you would consider, I'll say that word twice, consider being intimate with a black guy?
As I said, if I found someone attractive skin colour wouldn't matter. So that's obviously yes. Like Idris Elba. Yes please . Or any of the other black and Asian men I have been intimate with.
Mrs
Then you are arguing with a strawman. You are not excluding an entire race because of their race.
But there collapses your whole argument, as our profile very clearly states that she would rather only play with white guys. and mine non Caucasian women, as that's our preference not our exclusion. You arguing like this just exacerbates the situation. You really exasperate me at times. (see I like you really free English lesson thrown in)
Exactly the same as all the other people you spend so much time criticising. Shame you've been so slow to finally come round but congratulations.
Thank you and goodbye, enjoy the rally.
You do realise he's yanking your chain about the left wing thing? He's well known as our resident big mouthed rightist
I think you missed the point here he might think he's right wing, but he acts like a left wing activist. Thought control is a very left wing attribute.
What really makes me laugh is that someone who is so against preferences and ruling people out based on colour, clearly hasn't read their own profile, which states they down want any women over size 16! So it appears a fattist/sizist ism is completely OK and doesn't offend probably close to half of the fab women.
So I can say I don't want to play with fat women, as brokenbrilliance does, but not that I don't want to play with white women.
Personally I think singling people out because of their size is far more likely to cause offense and real upset than colour as a lot more people are bothered about their size and trying to change it. I don't know a single black person who has an issue with being black and wants to change it.
So if we are talking about his favourite pub sign.
No dogs, Irish or fat women. How does that sit with everybody.
He's not against people stating preferences. His point is that people should recognise them for what they are. He has openly said some of his own preferences are racist.
You are also making the mistake lots of people are making on here that saying something is racist is the same as trying to stop people doing it.
No his point is he knows better about EVERYTHING than anybody else and just can't stop telling them, even about things like racism that he hasn't suffered from and hasn't got a clue about. he is trying to control peoples thought processes, a very left wing approach. Anyway I'm sure he doesn't want you defending him or me discussing in the 3rd party so I'm stopping there
Actually I appreciated it a lot since KLP seems to be the only person that actually grasps what I'm saying and isn't arguing a strawman.
I'm interested to know why racism effects you more than me, assuming it's the white MR or the couple. It's a slow day at the rally...
So you are still going to deflect, lol. And yes I did.
Because I see my wife and family directly affected by racism every single day, looks, snigger disapprovement, etc. How about you or are you too busy avoiding fat people.
Could you explain that one as well. You very explicitly in your profile "aren't looking for people over size 16" explain and justify how that very negative way of putting that is OK? So you're a size bigot.
You know that saying about glass houses and stones? You're flinging them all over with abandon
Agreed.
I’ll look forward to the explanation "He won't. He's too busy chucking up the monotonous 'loony left wing' rhetoric bullshit. Because, you know, all of us who actually use our brain & intelligence are obviously raging 'leftists' Zzzzzzzzzz | |||
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" Actually I appreciated it a lot since KLP seems to be the only person that actually grasps what I'm saying and isn't arguing a strawman. I'm interested to know why racism effects you more than me, assuming it's the white MR or the couple. It's a slow day at the rally... Oh and I also have to justify, or at least I'm expected to, to white people why I can't marry a nice white English girl and stop encouraging immigration, etc. So yes I would say it very directly affects me and mine. Anyway, back to your fat bigotry, what's wrong with large people over size 16?" So your racism qualifications are that you're in an interracial relationship. Congratulations, you're obviously the only person on fab in that position. We will hereby make you the spokesperson on what racism is. You had the 16 question answered ages ago by KLP. | |||
"I choose my age limit as 30-50. Does that make me ageist? Or is it my preference?" No restrictive | |||
" It's because "racism" is the modern day sin against the holy ghost so people will react very strongly if you accuse them of it. . Which is actually a good thing in many ways as it shows how socially unacceptable racism now is We need to distinguish between bad racism (not offering a black people jobs) and acceptable racism (I only fuck white people). People doing it on here by labelling acceptable racism as "preference". As you have said, it's also about politeness. Your private view may be that you never fuck black people because you think they are all ugly. Only an arse would articulate that. Personally, I don't see it as progress to have people think, but only indirectly say racist things. I'd much rather they could just be honest and we could talk about. Racism stems from disgust, not fear as is popularly believed. Disgust is learned. If you're bombarded with images of brown people committing terrorists attack, gang grape in India and grooming gangs in Rochdale, it's no wonder the casual viewer isn't going to immediately link brown skin to an attractive trait. So...... Like I said in the other thread but you seemed to skip it conveniently. I'm black. My family is black. I love black people. I definitely have no disgust towards them . But I prefer to have sex with white men mostly. ( Before you get triggered if I find someone attractive and there's a spark, skin colour will not matter. I'm just generally more attracted to white men). So how am I racist?
Mrs
Are there any circumstances that you would consider, I'll say that word twice, consider being intimate with a black guy?
As I said, if I found someone attractive skin colour wouldn't matter. So that's obviously yes. Like Idris Elba. Yes please . Or any of the other black and Asian men I have been intimate with.
Mrs
Then you are arguing with a strawman. You are not excluding an entire race because of their race.
But there collapses your whole argument, as our profile very clearly states that she would rather only play with white guys. and mine non Caucasian women, as that's our preference not our exclusion. You arguing like this just exacerbates the situation. You really exasperate me at times. (see I like you really free English lesson thrown in)
Exactly the same as all the other people you spend so much time criticising. Shame you've been so slow to finally come round but congratulations.
Thank you and goodbye, enjoy the rally.
You do realise he's yanking your chain about the left wing thing? He's well known as our resident big mouthed rightist
I think you missed the point here he might think he's right wing, but he acts like a left wing activist. Thought control is a very left wing attribute.
What really makes me laugh is that someone who is so against preferences and ruling people out based on colour, clearly hasn't read their own profile, which states they down want any women over size 16! So it appears a fattist/sizist ism is completely OK and doesn't offend probably close to half of the fab women.
So I can say I don't want to play with fat women, as brokenbrilliance does, but not that I don't want to play with white women.
Personally I think singling people out because of their size is far more likely to cause offense and real upset than colour as a lot more people are bothered about their size and trying to change it. I don't know a single black person who has an issue with being black and wants to change it.
So if we are talking about his favourite pub sign.
No dogs, Irish or fat women. How does that sit with everybody.
He's not against people stating preferences. His point is that people should recognise them for what they are. He has openly said some of his own preferences are racist.
You are also making the mistake lots of people are making on here that saying something is racist is the same as trying to stop people doing it. "What part of this answer do people not understand? | |||
" It's because "racism" is the modern day sin against the holy ghost so people will react very strongly if you accuse them of it. . Which is actually a good thing in many ways as it shows how socially unacceptable racism now is We need to distinguish between bad racism (not offering a black people jobs) and acceptable racism (I only fuck white people). People doing it on here by labelling acceptable racism as "preference". As you have said, it's also about politeness. Your private view may be that you never fuck black people because you think they are all ugly. Only an arse would articulate that. Personally, I don't see it as progress to have people think, but only indirectly say racist things. I'd much rather they could just be honest and we could talk about. Racism stems from disgust, not fear as is popularly believed. Disgust is learned. If you're bombarded with images of brown people committing terrorists attack, gang grape in India and grooming gangs in Rochdale, it's no wonder the casual viewer isn't going to immediately link brown skin to an attractive trait. So...... Like I said in the other thread but you seemed to skip it conveniently. I'm black. My family is black. I love black people. I definitely have no disgust towards them . But I prefer to have sex with white men mostly. ( Before you get triggered if I find someone attractive and there's a spark, skin colour will not matter. I'm just generally more attracted to white men). So how am I racist?
Mrs
Are there any circumstances that you would consider, I'll say that word twice, consider being intimate with a black guy?
As I said, if I found someone attractive skin colour wouldn't matter. So that's obviously yes. Like Idris Elba. Yes please . Or any of the other black and Asian men I have been intimate with.
Mrs
Then you are arguing with a strawman. You are not excluding an entire race because of their race.
But there collapses your whole argument, as our profile very clearly states that she would rather only play with white guys. and mine non Caucasian women, as that's our preference not our exclusion. You arguing like this just exacerbates the situation. You really exasperate me at times. (see I like you really free English lesson thrown in)
Exactly the same as all the other people you spend so much time criticising. Shame you've been so slow to finally come round but congratulations.
Thank you and goodbye, enjoy the rally.
You do realise he's yanking your chain about the left wing thing? He's well known as our resident big mouthed rightist
I think you missed the point here he might think he's right wing, but he acts like a left wing activist. Thought control is a very left wing attribute.
What really makes me laugh is that someone who is so against preferences and ruling people out based on colour, clearly hasn't read their own profile, which states they down want any women over size 16! So it appears a fattist/sizist ism is completely OK and doesn't offend probably close to half of the fab women.
So I can say I don't want to play with fat women, as brokenbrilliance does, but not that I don't want to play with white women.
Personally I think singling people out because of their size is far more likely to cause offense and real upset than colour as a lot more people are bothered about their size and trying to change it. I don't know a single black person who has an issue with being black and wants to change it.
So if we are talking about his favourite pub sign.
No dogs, Irish or fat women. How does that sit with everybody.
He's not against people stating preferences. His point is that people should recognise them for what they are. He has openly said some of his own preferences are racist.
You are also making the mistake lots of people are making on here that saying something is racist is the same as trying to stop people doing it.
What part of this answer do people not understand? "Does the fact that you have to constantly say “what part don’t you understand” to everyone not tell you something? | |||
" It's because "racism" is the modern day sin against the holy ghost so people will react very strongly if you accuse them of it. . Which is actually a good thing in many ways as it shows how socially unacceptable racism now is We need to distinguish between bad racism (not offering a black people jobs) and acceptable racism (I only fuck white people). People doing it on here by labelling acceptable racism as "preference". As you have said, it's also about politeness. Your private view may be that you never fuck black people because you think they are all ugly. Only an arse would articulate that. Personally, I don't see it as progress to have people think, but only indirectly say racist things. I'd much rather they could just be honest and we could talk about. Racism stems from disgust, not fear as is popularly believed. Disgust is learned. If you're bombarded with images of brown people committing terrorists attack, gang grape in India and grooming gangs in Rochdale, it's no wonder the casual viewer isn't going to immediately link brown skin to an attractive trait. So...... Like I said in the other thread but you seemed to skip it conveniently. I'm black. My family is black. I love black people. I definitely have no disgust towards them . But I prefer to have sex with white men mostly. ( Before you get triggered if I find someone attractive and there's a spark, skin colour will not matter. I'm just generally more attracted to white men). So how am I racist?
Mrs
Are there any circumstances that you would consider, I'll say that word twice, consider being intimate with a black guy?
As I said, if I found someone attractive skin colour wouldn't matter. So that's obviously yes. Like Idris Elba. Yes please . Or any of the other black and Asian men I have been intimate with.
Mrs
Then you are arguing with a strawman. You are not excluding an entire race because of their race.
But there collapses your whole argument, as our profile very clearly states that she would rather only play with white guys. and mine non Caucasian women, as that's our preference not our exclusion. You arguing like this just exacerbates the situation. You really exasperate me at times. (see I like you really free English lesson thrown in)
Exactly the same as all the other people you spend so much time criticising. Shame you've been so slow to finally come round but congratulations.
Thank you and goodbye, enjoy the rally.
You do realise he's yanking your chain about the left wing thing? He's well known as our resident big mouthed rightist
I think you missed the point here he might think he's right wing, but he acts like a left wing activist. Thought control is a very left wing attribute.
What really makes me laugh is that someone who is so against preferences and ruling people out based on colour, clearly hasn't read their own profile, which states they down want any women over size 16! So it appears a fattist/sizist ism is completely OK and doesn't offend probably close to half of the fab women.
So I can say I don't want to play with fat women, as brokenbrilliance does, but not that I don't want to play with white women.
Personally I think singling people out because of their size is far more likely to cause offense and real upset than colour as a lot more people are bothered about their size and trying to change it. I don't know a single black person who has an issue with being black and wants to change it.
So if we are talking about his favourite pub sign.
No dogs, Irish or fat women. How does that sit with everybody.
He's not against people stating preferences. His point is that people should recognise them for what they are. He has openly said some of his own preferences are racist.
You are also making the mistake lots of people are making on here that saying something is racist is the same as trying to stop people doing it.
What part of this answer do people not understand?
Does the fact that you have to constantly say “what part don’t you understand” to everyone not tell you something? "That there are people on fab with a very poor level of reading comprehension and or reasoning skills. You in particular seem stumped how something can be a preference and racist! | |||
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"Apparently, well reading the numerous threads that are started almost daily ..we're all allowed them... Can anyone give me a reason why does having certain preferences and stating them cause such a reaction amongst those that are excluded ?" reactive people cause the negative vibes but as you havnt been specific about what preferences I prefer straight women in this life these days it makes me kinda weird | |||
" It's because "racism" is the modern day sin against the holy ghost so people will react very strongly if you accuse them of it. . Which is actually a good thing in many ways as it shows how socially unacceptable racism now is We need to distinguish between bad racism (not offering a black people jobs) and acceptable racism (I only fuck white people). People doing it on here by labelling acceptable racism as "preference". As you have said, it's also about politeness. Your private view may be that you never fuck black people because you think they are all ugly. Only an arse would articulate that. Personally, I don't see it as progress to have people think, but only indirectly say racist things. I'd much rather they could just be honest and we could talk about. Racism stems from disgust, not fear as is popularly believed. Disgust is learned. If you're bombarded with images of brown people committing terrorists attack, gang grape in India and grooming gangs in Rochdale, it's no wonder the casual viewer isn't going to immediately link brown skin to an attractive trait. So...... Like I said in the other thread but you seemed to skip it conveniently. I'm black. My family is black. I love black people. I definitely have no disgust towards them . But I prefer to have sex with white men mostly. ( Before you get triggered if I find someone attractive and there's a spark, skin colour will not matter. I'm just generally more attracted to white men). So how am I racist?
Mrs
Are there any circumstances that you would consider, I'll say that word twice, consider being intimate with a black guy?
As I said, if I found someone attractive skin colour wouldn't matter. So that's obviously yes. Like Idris Elba. Yes please . Or any of the other black and Asian men I have been intimate with.
Mrs
Then you are arguing with a strawman. You are not excluding an entire race because of their race.
But there collapses your whole argument, as our profile very clearly states that she would rather only play with white guys. and mine non Caucasian women, as that's our preference not our exclusion. You arguing like this just exacerbates the situation. You really exasperate me at times. (see I like you really free English lesson thrown in)
Exactly the same as all the other people you spend so much time criticising. Shame you've been so slow to finally come round but congratulations.
Thank you and goodbye, enjoy the rally.
You do realise he's yanking your chain about the left wing thing? He's well known as our resident big mouthed rightist
I think you missed the point here he might think he's right wing, but he acts like a left wing activist. Thought control is a very left wing attribute.
What really makes me laugh is that someone who is so against preferences and ruling people out based on colour, clearly hasn't read their own profile, which states they down want any women over size 16! So it appears a fattist/sizist ism is completely OK and doesn't offend probably close to half of the fab women.
So I can say I don't want to play with fat women, as brokenbrilliance does, but not that I don't want to play with white women.
Personally I think singling people out because of their size is far more likely to cause offense and real upset than colour as a lot more people are bothered about their size and trying to change it. I don't know a single black person who has an issue with being black and wants to change it.
So if we are talking about his favourite pub sign.
No dogs, Irish or fat women. How does that sit with everybody.
He's not against people stating preferences. His point is that people should recognise them for what they are. He has openly said some of his own preferences are racist.
You are also making the mistake lots of people are making on here that saying something is racist is the same as trying to stop people doing it.
What part of this answer do people not understand?
Does the fact that you have to constantly say “what part don’t you understand” to everyone not tell you something? "you'll get used to her being right all the time and 65% of statistics are made up | |||
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"It's projection, where people project their dislike from exclusions or rejections they face, hence the high levels of emotional intensity that they throw out. A preference for butter, not margarine, city not beach breaks etc are tolerated in others as reflections of their tastes but when someone stands to be rejected, they displace their emotional baggage onto someone who just innocently has preferences too. It's lacking in self-awareness and emotional maturity. " | |||
"Apparently, well reading the numerous threads that are started almost daily ..we're all allowed them... Can anyone give me a reason why does having certain preferences and stating them cause such a reaction amongst those that are excluded ? If you saw a pub with a sign outside that said "No blacks, no dogs, no irish", could you understand why it would piss off a black, Irish, dog walker? That's a very poor analogy though isn't it. Big difference from letting somebody stick their cock inside you najed to allowing them to have a drink at a bar fully dressed. So this argument just needs to be dropped it holds zero credibility. One is a personal experience the other common decency. Ok tell me a comparable analogy where it's totally cool to exclude people based on their race? " Nobody else has brought the race card in so far. We The OP wanted to discuss preferences. If I don't want meet anyone because or their race, sexuality or size. It is because it is my sexual preference. | |||
" Actually I appreciated it a lot since KLP seems to be the only person that actually grasps what I'm saying and isn't arguing a strawman. I'm interested to know why racism effects you more than me, assuming it's the white MR or the couple. It's a slow day at the rally... Oh and I also have to justify, or at least I'm expected to, to white people why I can't marry a nice white English girl and stop encouraging immigration, etc. So yes I would say it very directly affects me and mine. Anyway, back to your fat bigotry, what's wrong with large people over size 16? So your racism qualifications are that you're in an interracial relationship. Congratulations, you're obviously the only person on fab in that position. We will hereby make you the spokesperson on what racism is. You had the 16 question answered ages ago by KLP. " I'm confused why you can't just answer a direct question,is KLP your spokeperson. And back with the deflection, lol. So again, what is it you don't like about size 16+ people? And my qualifications are a lot better than yours aren't they? Another question you keep avoiding. Why are you so invested in telling black people how they should feel about racism? What is your exposure to it? | |||
"Apparently, well reading the numerous threads that are started almost daily ..we're all allowed them... Can anyone give me a reason why does having certain preferences and stating them cause such a reaction amongst those that are excluded ?" Over excited by the Politically Correct modern way???? | |||
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" It's because "racism" is the modern day sin against the holy ghost so people will react very strongly if you accuse them of it. . Which is actually a good thing in many ways as it shows how socially unacceptable racism now is We need to distinguish between bad racism (not offering a black people jobs) and acceptable racism (I only fuck white people). People doing it on here by labelling acceptable racism as "preference". As you have said, it's also about politeness. Your private view may be that you never fuck black people because you think they are all ugly. Only an arse would articulate that. Personally, I don't see it as progress to have people think, but only indirectly say racist things. I'd much rather they could just be honest and we could talk about. Racism stems from disgust, not fear as is popularly believed. Disgust is learned. If you're bombarded with images of brown people committing terrorists attack, gang grape in India and grooming gangs in Rochdale, it's no wonder the casual viewer isn't going to immediately link brown skin to an attractive trait. So...... Like I said in the other thread but you seemed to skip it conveniently. I'm black. My family is black. I love black people. I definitely have no disgust towards them . But I prefer to have sex with white men mostly. ( Before you get triggered if I find someone attractive and there's a spark, skin colour will not matter. I'm just generally more attracted to white men). So how am I racist?
Mrs
Are there any circumstances that you would consider, I'll say that word twice, consider being intimate with a black guy?
As I said, if I found someone attractive skin colour wouldn't matter. So that's obviously yes. Like Idris Elba. Yes please . Or any of the other black and Asian men I have been intimate with.
Mrs
Then you are arguing with a strawman. You are not excluding an entire race because of their race.
But there collapses your whole argument, as our profile very clearly states that she would rather only play with white guys. and mine non Caucasian women, as that's our preference not our exclusion. You arguing like this just exacerbates the situation. You really exasperate me at times. (see I like you really free English lesson thrown in)
Exactly the same as all the other people you spend so much time criticising. Shame you've been so slow to finally come round but congratulations.
Thank you and goodbye, enjoy the rally.
You do realise he's yanking your chain about the left wing thing? He's well known as our resident big mouthed rightist
I think you missed the point here he might think he's right wing, but he acts like a left wing activist. Thought control is a very left wing attribute.
What really makes me laugh is that someone who is so against preferences and ruling people out based on colour, clearly hasn't read their own profile, which states they down want any women over size 16! So it appears a fattist/sizist ism is completely OK and doesn't offend probably close to half of the fab women.
So I can say I don't want to play with fat women, as brokenbrilliance does, but not that I don't want to play with white women.
Personally I think singling people out because of their size is far more likely to cause offense and real upset than colour as a lot more people are bothered about their size and trying to change it. I don't know a single black person who has an issue with being black and wants to change it.
So if we are talking about his favourite pub sign.
No dogs, Irish or fat women. How does that sit with everybody.
He's not against people stating preferences. His point is that people should recognise them for what they are. He has openly said some of his own preferences are racist.
You are also making the mistake lots of people are making on here that saying something is racist is the same as trying to stop people doing it.
What part of this answer do people not understand?
Does the fact that you have to constantly say “what part don’t you understand” to everyone not tell you something?
That there are people on fab with a very poor level of reading comprehension and or reasoning skills. You in particular seem stumped how something can be a preference and racist! "Yes there are, getting exasperated again? You are again arguing against yourself. You have the worst understanding of other people I've ever known. I know you feel superior but you really aren't. It's like trying to teach a stubborn child. Yes some people with a preference are racist, that absolutely does not give you the right to infer that all preferences are racist. That is just a really dumb thought process. What part of this don't you understand? And I still don't understand why it bothers you so much, why don't you get a thread going about why so many couples won't meet bi men. At least it's relevant to you instead of sticking your nose in. And I can happily leave you to it as it doesn't have any interest to me at all. | |||
" Actually I appreciated it a lot since KLP seems to be the only person that actually grasps what I'm saying and isn't arguing a strawman. I'm interested to know why racism effects you more than me, assuming it's the white MR or the couple. It's a slow day at the rally... Oh and I also have to justify, or at least I'm expected to, to white people why I can't marry a nice white English girl and stop encouraging immigration, etc. So yes I would say it very directly affects me and mine. Anyway, back to your fat bigotry, what's wrong with large people over size 16? So your racism qualifications are that you're in an interracial relationship. Congratulations, you're obviously the only person on fab in that position. We will hereby make you the spokesperson on what racism is. You had the 16 question answered ages ago by KLP. I'm confused why you can't just answer a direct question,is KLP your spokeperson. And back with the deflection, lol. So again, what is it you don't like about size 16+ people? And my qualifications are a lot better than yours aren't they? Another question you keep avoiding. Why are you so invested in telling black people how they should feel about racism? What is your exposure to it? " I'm not going to answer questions multiple times, I don't know if you struggle with reading or your eyes are fiery red with rage and preventing you. You have no qualifications in anti-racism that i don't. Probably less if we laid all our cards on the table. Do you even have mixed race kids? How many years volunteer work have you done for anti-racist NGOs? | |||
"Well so far you've got off lightly. The re-education police must be posting elsewhere. Give them time and you'll see what happens to any of these kind of posts. I reckon before long admin will start stepping in on these posts to quell the aggro and telling folks to find other things to do or they'll close the thread." Hahaha you know the drill!!! | |||
"I like men and have a type but it doesn't exclude any colour of people. I don't think all of one race/colour of man is definitely unattractive, i don't think all of one type of guy is an asshole or rude, i don't think all of one type of men is anything. I've had a lot of good meets and sex over my lifetime." Exactly. Totally agree with this. It's not bitterness on my part, I just simply don't get how someone can say a whole race of people are unattractive, it just makes no sense to me. My preference might be X women, but that doesn't mean all Y women are ugly and I'd discount all Y women. It just doesn't compute and feels racist. | |||
"I like men and have a type but it doesn't exclude any colour of people. I don't think all of one race/colour of man is definitely unattractive, i don't think all of one type of guy is an asshole or rude, i don't think all of one type of men is anything. I've had a lot of good meets and sex over my lifetime. Exactly. Totally agree with this. It's not bitterness on my part, I just simply don't get how someone can say a whole race of people are unattractive, it just makes no sense to me. My preference might be X women, but that doesn't mean all Y women are ugly and I'd discount all Y women. It just doesn't compute and feels racist. " It's not about a person as an individual or a race as a whole it's about keeping messages down, some individuals of any race will be charismatic and appeal to anyone if you met them in person but here it's about messages and message levels, the words shouldn't be uttered but as a preference you can't argue with it really, for same reason as a white woman or couple saying they only want BBC it's a choice and not meant to be offensive but unfortunately to some it is | |||
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"Just to clarify, in advance search we are given the option box of ethnicity by freedom of choice! So, if we select ALL, we then wouldn't look like racists in this ever confusing world! Or is the site then racist for given us the option.... Ooooo my head hurts! "and the census wasn't we given a choice to tick the boxes, age, religion and race and sexual gender, just a thought | |||
"Just to clarify, in advance search we are given the option box of ethnicity by freedom of choice! So, if we select ALL, we then wouldn't look like racists in this ever confusing world! Or is the site then racist for given us the option.... Ooooo my head hurts!
and the census wasn't we given a choice to tick the boxes, age, religion and race and sexual gender, just a thought
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