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"There are shit loads of profiles that say this. But there are also ones that say no white men, and no black men too. I like profiles that don't go by the colour of people's skin. (Back off preference police.) " | |||
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"There are shit loads of profiles that say this. But there are also ones that say no white men, and no black men too. I like profiles that don't go by the colour of people's skin. (Back off preference police.) " I'm the same. I understand people have a preference but I don't understand why you would write it on your profile, it makes you look bigoted to exclude someone purely based on race. I just don't reply to people I'm not attracted to, simple. | |||
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"There are shit loads of profiles that say this. But there are also ones that say no white men, and no black men too. I like profiles that don't go by the colour of people's skin. (Back off preference police.) I'm the same. I understand people have a preference but I don't understand why you would write it on your profile, it makes you look bigoted to exclude someone purely based on race. I just don't reply to people I'm not attracted to, simple. " Totally agree, there’s really no need or excuse to put it on profiles. | |||
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"I have been on this site for a while and other swinging sites. I have had some meeting on other sites. However more and more user profiles don't want to connect with asain/indian guys. " Im all honesty there is a lack of respect for women by many South Asian guys there is a disrespectful mannerism at times and people then generalise or avoid all after bad experiences though many have manners and are repectful a lot more arn't sadly. | |||
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"I have been on this site for a while and other swinging sites. I have had some meeting on other sites. However more and more user profiles don't want to connect with asain/indian guys. " The profiles you mention could all have a different reason for not wishing to meet whomever... in reality the only folk who could answer your question are the folk who state that preference in their profile ..anything else is pure conjecture .. I'm always surprised folk seem to focus on the profiles that exclude rather than those that include . | |||
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"I have been on this site for a while and other swinging sites. I have had some meeting on other sites. However more and more user profiles don't want to connect with asain/indian guys. " Personal preference i guess. I wouldnt take it too personally on a site like this | |||
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"There are shit loads of profiles that say this. But there are also ones that say no white men, and no black men too. I like profiles that don't go by the colour of people's skin. (Back off preference police.) " Lol x | |||
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"Probably experience. " Exactly! | |||
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"Seeing Asian guys on the swinging scene isn't a problem for me Would I jump in bed with an Asian guy ? Probably not Some of it is down to skin tone (I don't find dark skin attractive in general), some of it is a default of religion (I don't like cut guys), some of it is down to the fact a lot of Asian guys want to fuck you (I'm not into getting fucked) So, whilst I would engage with an Asian guy in chat, the chance of that chat converting into a meet is pretty slim I don't think that makes me anti-Asian, they are all just factors of knowing what I want and don't want" Saying “I don’t find dark skin attractive” sounds pretty negative and offensive. I’m sure you don’t mean it in that way but there are probably better ways to say that. OP I do agree about Asian men having a reputation, however I don’t think anyone should label all like that. It could simply be down to personal preference. Not much you can do about that! | |||
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"Seeing Asian guys on the swinging scene isn't a problem for me Would I jump in bed with an Asian guy ? Probably not Some of it is down to skin tone (I don't find dark skin attractive in general), some of it is a default of religion (I don't like cut guys), some of it is down to the fact a lot of Asian guys want to fuck you (I'm not into getting fucked) So, whilst I would engage with an Asian guy in chat, the chance of that chat converting into a meet is pretty slim I don't think that makes me anti-Asian, they are all just factors of knowing what I want and don't want Saying “I don’t find dark skin attractive” sounds pretty negative and offensive. I’m sure you don’t mean it in that way but there are probably better ways to say that. OP I do agree about Asian men having a reputation, however I don’t think anyone should label all like that. It could simply be down to personal preference. Not much you can do about that! " You are correct in that no offence was intended Skin tone does play a major part in attraction for me though The darker the skin, the less attractive I seem to find someone For example, I adore olive skin / mixed race / arabic skin tones, but I very, very rarely find a darker skinned Asian or Black person attractive. By contrast, a former partner of mine who was Portuguese didn't find olive skin attractive - he went solely for pale skin, the whiter the better and, if ginger too, he was in heaven So it is definitely a thing for some people I've given up trying to work out why I find some things attractive and other things not so, I just go with the flow and accept it these days | |||
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"Seeing Asian guys on the swinging scene isn't a problem for me Would I jump in bed with an Asian guy ? Probably not Some of it is down to skin tone (I don't find dark skin attractive in general), some of it is a default of religion (I don't like cut guys), some of it is down to the fact a lot of Asian guys want to fuck you (I'm not into getting fucked) So, whilst I would engage with an Asian guy in chat, the chance of that chat converting into a meet is pretty slim I don't think that makes me anti-Asian, they are all just factors of knowing what I want and don't want Saying “I don’t find dark skin attractive” sounds pretty negative and offensive. I’m sure you don’t mean it in that way but there are probably better ways to say that. OP I do agree about Asian men having a reputation, however I don’t think anyone should label all like that. It could simply be down to personal preference. Not much you can do about that! You are correct in that no offence was intended Skin tone does play a major part in attraction for me though The darker the skin, the less attractive I seem to find someone For example, I adore olive skin / mixed race / arabic skin tones, but I very, very rarely find a darker skinned Asian or Black person attractive. By contrast, a former partner of mine who was Portuguese didn't find olive skin attractive - he went solely for pale skin, the whiter the better and, if ginger too, he was in heaven So it is definitely a thing for some people I've given up trying to work out why I find some things attractive and other things not so, I just go with the flow and accept it these days" I think sometimes it’s impossible to work out why you like what you like! Like you said, best to go with the flow! | |||
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"Sadly Asian men have a reputation (completely wrongly) for having little respect for women. Some are not prepared to see beyond that and other racial stereotypes. We prefer to take individuals on their own merit, regardless of the colour of their skin, or anything else for that matter. Use those profiles stating "their preference" as a filter. " It's guilt by association basically. I know we're not allowed to say it, but every club has horror stories of groups of Asian men coming into swinging clubs acting like it's a brothel. So some people decide to write off all Asian guys for that reason and hide behind the bullshit statement of "it's a preference". Fine, it's a racist preference then. | |||
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"I think not replying to people is far ruder than stating preferences. Takes but a moment to say thanks but no thanks" It’s not rude to not reply. This is stated in Fab rules and has been said many times. Too many on here take a reply as interest or get abusive to a “no thanks” so much easier to delete and go. Neither should offend people really. | |||
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"That’s not the sole reason for stating it in your profile as a preference. Many people are not turned on by certain types. That’s preference not racism based on actions that may or may not have ever happened" Try refusing to interview a job candidate because you don't like their skin colour and say it's not racist. By all means say you don't like a given skin colour, but cut the crap pretending that's not racist. It's the fucking definition of racism. | |||
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"I think not replying to people is far ruder than stating preferences. Takes but a moment to say thanks but no thanks It’s not rude to not reply. This is stated in Fab rules and has been said many times. Too many on here take a reply as interest or get abusive to a “no thanks” so much easier to delete and go. Neither should offend people really. " Exactly this, I’ve lost count how much abuse I’ve been given for a polite no thanks | |||
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"That’s not the sole reason for stating it in your profile as a preference. Many people are not turned on by certain types. That’s preference not racism based on actions that may or may not have ever happened Try refusing to interview a job candidate because you don't like their skin colour and say it's not racist." That happens. A lot. Yes, it is racist, but it happens. I've worked for more than one employer that screens CV's initially by name If you sound foreign, your CV won't even be read by some employers My own niece who, by marriage, has an Islamic surname, uses her maiden name on her CV for that very reason You could be forgiven at times for thinking we still lived in the 1950's | |||
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"That’s not the sole reason for stating it in your profile as a preference. Many people are not turned on by certain types. That’s preference not racism based on actions that may or may not have ever happened Try refusing to interview a job candidate because you don't like their skin colour and say it's not racist. That happens. A lot. Yes, it is racist, but it happens. I've worked for more than one employer that screens CV's initially by name If you sound foreign, your CV won't even be read by some employers My own niece who, by marriage, has an Islamic surname, uses her maiden name on her CV for that very reason You could be forgiven at times for thinking we still lived in the 1950's" Right, but does anyone say " Oh that's not discrimination, it's just a preference". I screen by names, but not in the same way. If you think a khloie or jayden is getting into our company then you need a time machine to go back to when their parents ruined their life in the registry office. | |||
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"That’s not the sole reason for stating it in your profile as a preference. Many people are not turned on by certain types. That’s preference not racism based on actions that may or may not have ever happened Try refusing to interview a job candidate because you don't like their skin colour and say it's not racist. By all means say you don't like a given skin colour, but cut the crap pretending that's not racist. It's the fucking definition of racism. " Are You really comparing sexual preference to a job interview ?! | |||
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"That’s not the sole reason for stating it in your profile as a preference. Many people are not turned on by certain types. That’s preference not racism based on actions that may or may not have ever happened Try refusing to interview a job candidate because you don't like their skin colour and say it's not racist. By all means say you don't like a given skin colour, but cut the crap pretending that's not racist. It's the fucking definition of racism. Are You really comparing sexual preference to a job interview ?! " What is the definition of racism? | |||
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"That’s not the sole reason for stating it in your profile as a preference. Many people are not turned on by certain types. That’s preference not racism based on actions that may or may not have ever happened Try refusing to interview a job candidate because you don't like their skin colour and say it's not racist. That happens. A lot. Yes, it is racist, but it happens. I've worked for more than one employer that screens CV's initially by name If you sound foreign, your CV won't even be read by some employers My own niece who, by marriage, has an Islamic surname, uses her maiden name on her CV for that very reason You could be forgiven at times for thinking we still lived in the 1950's Right, but does anyone say " Oh that's not discrimination, it's just a preference". I screen by names, but not in the same way. If you think a khloie or jayden is getting into our company then you need a time machine to go back to when their parents ruined their life in the registry office. " No because it is racism, pure & simple I still think it's a poor comparison though Would I help an asian guy in distress or danger ? Yes Would I stand up for an asian guy being abused ? Yes (and have) Would I challenge someone who was openly racist ? Yes (and do so, even within my own family) Would I fuck an asian guy ? Yes, as long as he wasn't too dark skinned, was uncut and didn't want to fuck me If that makes me racist in someone elses eyes, then so be it, but it isn't the definition of racism I'd choose | |||
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"That’s not the sole reason for stating it in your profile as a preference. Many people are not turned on by certain types. That’s preference not racism based on actions that may or may not have ever happened Try refusing to interview a job candidate because you don't like their skin colour and say it's not racist. By all means say you don't like a given skin colour, but cut the crap pretending that's not racist. It's the fucking definition of racism. Are You really comparing sexual preference to a job interview ?! What is the definition of racism? " You’re comparing whether you want to sleep with someone, to whether they are the best candidate for a job. Ones about attraction the other is about ability. | |||
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"That’s not the sole reason for stating it in your profile as a preference. Many people are not turned on by certain types. That’s preference not racism based on actions that may or may not have ever happened Try refusing to interview a job candidate because you don't like their skin colour and say it's not racist. That happens. A lot. Yes, it is racist, but it happens. I've worked for more than one employer that screens CV's initially by name If you sound foreign, your CV won't even be read by some employers My own niece who, by marriage, has an Islamic surname, uses her maiden name on her CV for that very reason You could be forgiven at times for thinking we still lived in the 1950's Right, but does anyone say " Oh that's not discrimination, it's just a preference". I screen by names, but not in the same way. If you think a khloie or jayden is getting into our company then you need a time machine to go back to when their parents ruined their life in the registry office. No because it is racism, pure & simple I still think it's a poor comparison though Would I help an asian guy in distress or danger ? Yes Would I stand up for an asian guy being abused ? Yes (and have) Would I challenge someone who was openly racist ? Yes (and do so, even within my own family) Would I fuck an asian guy ? Yes, as long as he wasn't too dark skinned, was uncut and didn't want to fuck me If that makes me racist in someone elses eyes, then so be it, but it isn't the definition of racism I'd choose " Again, tell me the definition of racism? If it's not treating people differently based only on their race and not their character then i don't know what the fuck it is. | |||
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"That’s not the sole reason for stating it in your profile as a preference. Many people are not turned on by certain types. That’s preference not racism based on actions that may or may not have ever happened Try refusing to interview a job candidate because you don't like their skin colour and say it's not racist. By all means say you don't like a given skin colour, but cut the crap pretending that's not racist. It's the fucking definition of racism. Are You really comparing sexual preference to a job interview ?! What is the definition of racism? You’re comparing whether you want to sleep with someone, to whether they are the best candidate for a job. Ones about attraction the other is about ability. " Exactly. Ridiculous comparison | |||
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"This is exactly why people are afraid to say anything these days. How ridiculous saying it’s racist. It’s no different to me saying im not physically attracted to skinny men or someone saying they’re not attracted to very big women, someone preferring red heads etc. I am much more physically attracted to white men personally. If that makes me racist then this world really has gone bonkers. " Fat and skinny aren't races. | |||
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"That’s not the sole reason for stating it in your profile as a preference. Many people are not turned on by certain types. That’s preference not racism based on actions that may or may not have ever happened Try refusing to interview a job candidate because you don't like their skin colour and say it's not racist. That happens. A lot. Yes, it is racist, but it happens. I've worked for more than one employer that screens CV's initially by name If you sound foreign, your CV won't even be read by some employers My own niece who, by marriage, has an Islamic surname, uses her maiden name on her CV for that very reason You could be forgiven at times for thinking we still lived in the 1950's Right, but does anyone say " Oh that's not discrimination, it's just a preference". I screen by names, but not in the same way. If you think a khloie or jayden is getting into our company then you need a time machine to go back to when their parents ruined their life in the registry office. No because it is racism, pure & simple I still think it's a poor comparison though Would I help an asian guy in distress or danger ? Yes Would I stand up for an asian guy being abused ? Yes (and have) Would I challenge someone who was openly racist ? Yes (and do so, even within my own family) Would I fuck an asian guy ? Yes, as long as he wasn't too dark skinned, was uncut and didn't want to fuck me If that makes me racist in someone elses eyes, then so be it, but it isn't the definition of racism I'd choose Again, tell me the definition of racism? If it's not treating people differently based only on their race and not their character then i don't know what the fuck it is. " I don't see the race as the preference, I see the skin tone as the preference So I might shag one person of any given race based on their skin tone, but not another of the same race if they were darker | |||
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"That’s not the sole reason for stating it in your profile as a preference. Many people are not turned on by certain types. That’s preference not racism based on actions that may or may not have ever happened Try refusing to interview a job candidate because you don't like their skin colour and say it's not racist. That happens. A lot. Yes, it is racist, but it happens. I've worked for more than one employer that screens CV's initially by name If you sound foreign, your CV won't even be read by some employers My own niece who, by marriage, has an Islamic surname, uses her maiden name on her CV for that very reason You could be forgiven at times for thinking we still lived in the 1950's Right, but does anyone say " Oh that's not discrimination, it's just a preference". I screen by names, but not in the same way. If you think a khloie or jayden is getting into our company then you need a time machine to go back to when their parents ruined their life in the registry office. No because it is racism, pure & simple I still think it's a poor comparison though Would I help an asian guy in distress or danger ? Yes Would I stand up for an asian guy being abused ? Yes (and have) Would I challenge someone who was openly racist ? Yes (and do so, even within my own family) Would I fuck an asian guy ? Yes, as long as he wasn't too dark skinned, was uncut and didn't want to fuck me If that makes me racist in someone elses eyes, then so be it, but it isn't the definition of racism I'd choose Again, tell me the definition of racism? If it's not treating people differently based only on their race and not their character then i don't know what the fuck it is. " Racism is deeming another race inferior to your own. Having a sexual preference is NOT that. If you didn’t fancy Asians and thought they were second class citizens and wouldn’t acknowledge them in anyway shape or form then yes that’s racist. If you don’t fancy Asians but you acknowledge them and treat them just as equally as anyone else, it’s simply a preference. There’s a big difference. You cannot force people to sleep with someone they aren’t attracted to by calling it “racist”, it’s not racism. | |||
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"This is exactly why people are afraid to say anything these days. How ridiculous saying it’s racist. It’s no different to me saying im not physically attracted to skinny men or someone saying they’re not attracted to very big women, someone preferring red heads etc. I am much more physically attracted to white men personally. If that makes me racist then this world really has gone bonkers. Fat and skinny aren't races. " No they’re preferences. I find it absolutely ridiculous that racism is even brought into this. I totally disagree with everything you’ve said and the comparisons you have made with general life and job interviews. How is not being attracted to someone Asian any different to not being attracted to someone ginger? The only thing worse than racism is playing the race card. | |||
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"That’s not the sole reason for stating it in your profile as a preference. Many people are not turned on by certain types. That’s preference not racism based on actions that may or may not have ever happened Try refusing to interview a job candidate because you don't like their skin colour and say it's not racist. That happens. A lot. Yes, it is racist, but it happens. I've worked for more than one employer that screens CV's initially by name If you sound foreign, your CV won't even be read by some employers My own niece who, by marriage, has an Islamic surname, uses her maiden name on her CV for that very reason You could be forgiven at times for thinking we still lived in the 1950's Right, but does anyone say " Oh that's not discrimination, it's just a preference". I screen by names, but not in the same way. If you think a khloie or jayden is getting into our company then you need a time machine to go back to when their parents ruined their life in the registry office. No because it is racism, pure & simple I still think it's a poor comparison though Would I help an asian guy in distress or danger ? Yes Would I stand up for an asian guy being abused ? Yes (and have) Would I challenge someone who was openly racist ? Yes (and do so, even within my own family) Would I fuck an asian guy ? Yes, as long as he wasn't too dark skinned, was uncut and didn't want to fuck me If that makes me racist in someone elses eyes, then so be it, but it isn't the definition of racism I'd choose Again, tell me the definition of racism? If it's not treating people differently based only on their race and not their character then i don't know what the fuck it is. Racism is deeming another race inferior to your own. Having a sexual preference is NOT that. If you didn’t fancy Asians and thought they were second class citizens and wouldn’t acknowledge them in anyway shape or form then yes that’s racist. If you don’t fancy Asians but you acknowledge them and treat them just as equally as anyone else, it’s simply a preference. There’s a big difference. You cannot force people to sleep with someone they aren’t attracted to by calling it “racist”, it’s not racism." Exactly this | |||
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"This is exactly why people are afraid to say anything these days. How ridiculous saying it’s racist. It’s no different to me saying im not physically attracted to skinny men or someone saying they’re not attracted to very big women, someone preferring red heads etc. I am much more physically attracted to white men personally. If that makes me racist then this world really has gone bonkers. Fat and skinny aren't races. No they’re preferences. I find it absolutely ridiculous that racism is even brought into this. I totally disagree with everything you’ve said and the comparisons you have made with general life and job interviews. How is not being attracted to someone Asian any different to not being attracted to someone ginger? The only thing worse than racism is playing the race card. " Exactly there isn’t a difference. Race, size, age, hair colour, eye colour are all attributes. Attributes that people are attracted and unattracted to. Being only attracted to slim women doesn’t make you sizeist to fat women, treating fat women like they are worth less than slim women does. | |||
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"This is exactly why people are afraid to say anything these days. How ridiculous saying it’s racist. It’s no different to me saying im not physically attracted to skinny men or someone saying they’re not attracted to very big women, someone preferring red heads etc. I am much more physically attracted to white men personally. If that makes me racist then this world really has gone bonkers. Fat and skinny aren't races. No they’re preferences. I find it absolutely ridiculous that racism is even brought into this. I totally disagree with everything you’ve said and the comparisons you have made with general life and job interviews. How is not being attracted to someone Asian any different to not being attracted to someone ginger? The only thing worse than racism is playing the race card. Exactly there isn’t a difference. Race, size, age, hair colour, eye colour are all attributes. Attributes that people are attracted and unattracted to. Being only attracted to slim women doesn’t make you sizeist to fat women, treating fat women like they are worth less than slim women does. " Absolutely agree. This has proper wound me up to be honest. Unbelievable! | |||
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"That’s not the sole reason for stating it in your profile as a preference. Many people are not turned on by certain types. That’s preference not racism based on actions that may or may not have ever happened Try refusing to interview a job candidate because you don't like their skin colour and say it's not racist. That happens. A lot. Yes, it is racist, but it happens. I've worked for more than one employer that screens CV's initially by name If you sound foreign, your CV won't even be read by some employers My own niece who, by marriage, has an Islamic surname, uses her maiden name on her CV for that very reason You could be forgiven at times for thinking we still lived in the 1950's Right, but does anyone say " Oh that's not discrimination, it's just a preference". I screen by names, but not in the same way. If you think a khloie or jayden is getting into our company then you need a time machine to go back to when their parents ruined their life in the registry office. No because it is racism, pure & simple I still think it's a poor comparison though Would I help an asian guy in distress or danger ? Yes Would I stand up for an asian guy being abused ? Yes (and have) Would I challenge someone who was openly racist ? Yes (and do so, even within my own family) Would I fuck an asian guy ? Yes, as long as he wasn't too dark skinned, was uncut and didn't want to fuck me If that makes me racist in someone elses eyes, then so be it, but it isn't the definition of racism I'd choose Again, tell me the definition of racism? If it's not treating people differently based only on their race and not their character then i don't know what the fuck it is. Racism is deeming another race inferior to your own. Having a sexual preference is NOT that. If you didn’t fancy Asians and thought they were second class citizens and wouldn’t acknowledge them in anyway shape or form then yes that’s racist. If you don’t fancy Asians but you acknowledge them and treat them just as equally as anyone else, it’s simply a preference. There’s a big difference. You cannot force people to sleep with someone they aren’t attracted to by calling it “racist”, it’s not racism." Where do think these "preferences" come from? I don't care about forcing people to sleep with anyone, I'm just calling a spade a spade. When you sleep with someone because of their race, it's racist. I know a lot of people are horrified to learn that racism is a spectrum and they aren't the 100% non-racist they self identify as, but it is what it is. As a masculine white guy who ain't a limp wristed lefty, plenty of people confide in me the real reasons for their "preferences". I know the virtue signallers won't miss an opportunity to deny it though. | |||
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"This is exactly why people are afraid to say anything these days. How ridiculous saying it’s racist. It’s no different to me saying im not physically attracted to skinny men or someone saying they’re not attracted to very big women, someone preferring red heads etc. I am much more physically attracted to white men personally. If that makes me racist then this world really has gone bonkers. Fat and skinny aren't races. No they’re preferences. I find it absolutely ridiculous that racism is even brought into this. I totally disagree with everything you’ve said and the comparisons you have made with general life and job interviews. How is not being attracted to someone Asian any different to not being attracted to someone ginger? The only thing worse than racism is playing the race card. " You keep using this bullshit term like it means something. Return to my original statement. Go tell a tribunal that the reason you didn't interview the black man was "preference" and see how much they respect that explanation. It's the meaning of the word that is central to my argument, not the scenario. | |||
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"That’s not the sole reason for stating it in your profile as a preference. Many people are not turned on by certain types. That’s preference not racism based on actions that may or may not have ever happened Try refusing to interview a job candidate because you don't like their skin colour and say it's not racist. That happens. A lot. Yes, it is racist, but it happens. I've worked for more than one employer that screens CV's initially by name If you sound foreign, your CV won't even be read by some employers My own niece who, by marriage, has an Islamic surname, uses her maiden name on her CV for that very reason You could be forgiven at times for thinking we still lived in the 1950's Right, but does anyone say " Oh that's not discrimination, it's just a preference". I screen by names, but not in the same way. If you think a khloie or jayden is getting into our company then you need a time machine to go back to when their parents ruined their life in the registry office. No because it is racism, pure & simple I still think it's a poor comparison though Would I help an asian guy in distress or danger ? Yes Would I stand up for an asian guy being abused ? Yes (and have) Would I challenge someone who was openly racist ? Yes (and do so, even within my own family) Would I fuck an asian guy ? Yes, as long as he wasn't too dark skinned, was uncut and didn't want to fuck me If that makes me racist in someone elses eyes, then so be it, but it isn't the definition of racism I'd choose Again, tell me the definition of racism? If it's not treating people differently based only on their race and not their character then i don't know what the fuck it is. Racism is deeming another race inferior to your own. Having a sexual preference is NOT that. If you didn’t fancy Asians and thought they were second class citizens and wouldn’t acknowledge them in anyway shape or form then yes that’s racist. If you don’t fancy Asians but you acknowledge them and treat them just as equally as anyone else, it’s simply a preference. There’s a big difference. You cannot force people to sleep with someone they aren’t attracted to by calling it “racist”, it’s not racism. Where do think these "preferences" come from? I don't care about forcing people to sleep with anyone, I'm just calling a spade a spade. When you sleep with someone because of their race, it's racist. I know a lot of people are horrified to learn that racism is a spectrum and they aren't the 100% non-racist they self identify as, but it is what it is. As a masculine white guy who ain't a limp wristed lefty, plenty of people confide in me the real reasons for their "preferences". I know the virtue signallers won't miss an opportunity to deny it though. " Preferences can come from absolutely anywhere. You could grow up in a predominantly white area and know nothing other than that so only be attracted to white men. Plenty of people “confiding” in you doesn’t speak for everyone who has a preference. I’m not saying there aren’t racist people who use the “preference” line, there sure as hell is. But to call every single person who has a preference racist is ridiculous. Especially on here, some of us may be looking for something we don’t get in our civilian life, I rarely come across older white males in my social circle so I’m seeking something different on here than what I’ve had or what I get outside. I like all races, and wouldn’t rule one out, however I get that some people can be more attracted to people of another race or the same race as themselves. Unless they are treating another race as second class citizens who are below them, it’s not racist. Grouping people who have a preference into the same category as the KKK or people who want innocent people dead just because of the colour of their skin is madness. | |||
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"Unfortunately from my own experience the two Asian men I meet with my partner they turned up and were disrespectful, I said no to anal from the messages and they both agreed not to turned up and during they both tried to force it and tried to do it. " So lets hate all Asian then... | |||
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"This is exactly why people are afraid to say anything these days. How ridiculous saying it’s racist. It’s no different to me saying im not physically attracted to skinny men or someone saying they’re not attracted to very big women, someone preferring red heads etc. I am much more physically attracted to white men personally. If that makes me racist then this world really has gone bonkers. Fat and skinny aren't races. No they’re preferences. I find it absolutely ridiculous that racism is even brought into this. I totally disagree with everything you’ve said and the comparisons you have made with general life and job interviews. How is not being attracted to someone Asian any different to not being attracted to someone ginger? The only thing worse than racism is playing the race card. You keep using this bullshit term like it means something. Return to my original statement. Go tell a tribunal that the reason you didn't interview the black man was "preference" and see how much they respect that explanation. It's the meaning of the word that is central to my argument, not the scenario. " Totally different situation. Why are you bringing job interviews into it? Of course that scenario you mention is racist and absolutely not acceptable. | |||
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" Where do think these "preferences" come from? I don't care about forcing people to sleep with anyone, I'm just calling a spade a spade. When you sleep with someone because of their race, it's racist. I know a lot of people are horrified to learn that racism is a spectrum and they aren't the 100% non-racist they self identify as, but it is what it is. As a masculine white guy who ain't a limp wristed lefty, plenty of people confide in me the real reasons for their "preferences". I know the virtue signallers won't miss an opportunity to deny it though. Preferences can come from absolutely anywhere. You could grow up in a predominantly white area and know nothing other than that so only be attracted to white men. Plenty of people “confiding” in you doesn’t speak for everyone who has a preference. I’m not saying there aren’t racist people who use the “preference” line, there sure as hell is. But to call every single person who has a preference racist is ridiculous. Especially on here, some of us may be looking for something we don’t get in our civilian life, I rarely come across older white males in my social circle so I’m seeking something different on here than what I’ve had or what I get outside. I like all races, and wouldn’t rule one out, however I get that some people can be more attracted to people of another race or the same race as themselves. Unless they are treating another race as second class citizens who are below them, it’s not racist. Grouping people who have a preference into the same category as the KKK or people who want innocent people dead just because of the colour of their skin is madness. " So your KKK comment is interesting, because you just said they are a category that we can all agree is 'racist' and you don't want to lump "No asian profiles" in with them. I can understand that. But my perspective is different. It's not two categories of racist and non-racist, it's a scale and let's say it goes from 0-100. We can put Hitler at 100 but none of us are 0. | |||
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"This is exactly why people are afraid to say anything these days. How ridiculous saying it’s racist. It’s no different to me saying im not physically attracted to skinny men or someone saying they’re not attracted to very big women, someone preferring red heads etc. I am much more physically attracted to white men personally. If that makes me racist then this world really has gone bonkers. Fat and skinny aren't races. No they’re preferences. I find it absolutely ridiculous that racism is even brought into this. I totally disagree with everything you’ve said and the comparisons you have made with general life and job interviews. How is not being attracted to someone Asian any different to not being attracted to someone ginger? The only thing worse than racism is playing the race card. You keep using this bullshit term like it means something. Return to my original statement. Go tell a tribunal that the reason you didn't interview the black man was "preference" and see how much they respect that explanation. It's the meaning of the word that is central to my argument, not the scenario. Totally different situation. Why are you bringing job interviews into it? Of course that scenario you mention is racist and absolutely not acceptable. " What part of the last sentence didn't you understand | |||
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"I think its down to personal preference.. Just block those who dont want to meet and find the ones that do" Looking delightful xx | |||
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"Unfortunately from my own experience the two Asian men I meet with my partner they turned up and were disrespectful, I said no to anal from the messages and they both agreed not to turned up and during they both tried to force it and tried to do it. " If they were the same race as your partner, would you dump him? | |||
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"I didn't say that did I. I said from my own experience of Asian men. It's up to a person's preference and there choice who they want to meet. Meet's should never be forced or the person who's been told no I don't do a certain sexual thing, they agree to it and then try to do it anyway that's a no no! " Oh yes but come on you never came up across a white man who did that ? I had ! Many white men do nlt respect boundaries.... | |||
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" Where do think these "preferences" come from? I don't care about forcing people to sleep with anyone, I'm just calling a spade a spade. When you sleep with someone because of their race, it's racist. I know a lot of people are horrified to learn that racism is a spectrum and they aren't the 100% non-racist they self identify as, but it is what it is. As a masculine white guy who ain't a limp wristed lefty, plenty of people confide in me the real reasons for their "preferences". I know the virtue signallers won't miss an opportunity to deny it though. Preferences can come from absolutely anywhere. You could grow up in a predominantly white area and know nothing other than that so only be attracted to white men. Plenty of people “confiding” in you doesn’t speak for everyone who has a preference. I’m not saying there aren’t racist people who use the “preference” line, there sure as hell is. But to call every single person who has a preference racist is ridiculous. Especially on here, some of us may be looking for something we don’t get in our civilian life, I rarely come across older white males in my social circle so I’m seeking something different on here than what I’ve had or what I get outside. I like all races, and wouldn’t rule one out, however I get that some people can be more attracted to people of another race or the same race as themselves. Unless they are treating another race as second class citizens who are below them, it’s not racist. Grouping people who have a preference into the same category as the KKK or people who want innocent people dead just because of the colour of their skin is madness. So your KKK comment is interesting, because you just said they are a category that we can all agree is 'racist' and you don't want to lump "No asian profiles" in with them. I can understand that. But my perspective is different. It's not two categories of racist and non-racist, it's a scale and let's say it goes from 0-100. We can put Hitler at 100 but none of us are 0." I see what you mean but for me I wouldn’t call someone having a preference for let’s say black men, racist. There are certainly levels to “racism” and as you say Hitler at 100, I just wouldn’t categorise someone with a sexual preference in a “racist” category. I can see why saying “No Asian profiles” on someone’s profile can be seen as quite offensive though as it’s pretty negative. Much better to put “Looking for white males” if that’s what they’re after, far more positive. I’ve been called a racist too many times on here for stating I’m seeking white men in my profile, but what these people don’t realise is I date ALL races and wouldn’t rule anyone out, however on here I’m seeking something different, something I wouldn’t find in my social circle usually. So there could be many people like me, after something specific. I know theres non interracial couples on here seeking interracial sex. And it gets my back up when people shout “racist” when it’s not. Discrimination maybe. | |||
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"This is exactly why people are afraid to say anything these days. How ridiculous saying it’s racist. It’s no different to me saying im not physically attracted to skinny men or someone saying they’re not attracted to very big women, someone preferring red heads etc. I am much more physically attracted to white men personally. If that makes me racist then this world really has gone bonkers. Fat and skinny aren't races. No they’re preferences. I find it absolutely ridiculous that racism is even brought into this. I totally disagree with everything you’ve said and the comparisons you have made with general life and job interviews. How is not being attracted to someone Asian any different to not being attracted to someone ginger? The only thing worse than racism is playing the race card. You keep using this bullshit term like it means something. Return to my original statement. Go tell a tribunal that the reason you didn't interview the black man was "preference" and see how much they respect that explanation. It's the meaning of the word that is central to my argument, not the scenario. Totally different situation. Why are you bringing job interviews into it? Of course that scenario you mention is racist and absolutely not acceptable. What part of the last sentence didn't you understand " Oh the roly eyes are out. I’ll step back and agree to disagree otherwise we’ll be here all night. | |||
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"I have to agree with BB. So many people try to hide the fact that their sexual 'preferences' are in fact racial sexual preferences and therefore it is racist. I am not and I fucking reapeat, I AM NOT SAYING that you need to fuck ppl you aren't attracted to prove anyone anything. But saying that you will never sleep with any black or asian ppl on earth because you aren't attracted to them, it is racist. Simply because you are so called attraction is based on skin colour not on the person himself/herself. " Yea you've nailed it in my opinion. Even if its not racist (which I think it is) its a dick move to put it on your profile. Like if someone said no fat people, no need to push the point, just don't reply to them. | |||
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" You keep using this bullshit term like it means something. Return to my original statement. Go tell a tribunal that the reason you didn't interview the black man was "preference" and see how much they respect that explanation. It's the meaning of the word that is central to my argument, not the scenario. " How is a job interview scenario related to sexual preferences? I hope you don't work in HR! There are problems with racism but when you call any mention of skin colour racist you devalue the real issues | |||
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" Where do think these "preferences" come from? I don't care about forcing people to sleep with anyone, I'm just calling a spade a spade. When you sleep with someone because of their race, it's racist. I know a lot of people are horrified to learn that racism is a spectrum and they aren't the 100% non-racist they self identify as, but it is what it is. As a masculine white guy who ain't a limp wristed lefty, plenty of people confide in me the real reasons for their "preferences". I know the virtue signallers won't miss an opportunity to deny it though. Preferences can come from absolutely anywhere. You could grow up in a predominantly white area and know nothing other than that so only be attracted to white men. Plenty of people “confiding” in you doesn’t speak for everyone who has a preference. I’m not saying there aren’t racist people who use the “preference” line, there sure as hell is. But to call every single person who has a preference racist is ridiculous. Especially on here, some of us may be looking for something we don’t get in our civilian life, I rarely come across older white males in my social circle so I’m seeking something different on here than what I’ve had or what I get outside. I like all races, and wouldn’t rule one out, however I get that some people can be more attracted to people of another race or the same race as themselves. Unless they are treating another race as second class citizens who are below them, it’s not racist. Grouping people who have a preference into the same category as the KKK or people who want innocent people dead just because of the colour of their skin is madness. So your KKK comment is interesting, because you just said they are a category that we can all agree is 'racist' and you don't want to lump "No asian profiles" in with them. I can understand that. But my perspective is different. It's not two categories of racist and non-racist, it's a scale and let's say it goes from 0-100. We can put Hitler at 100 but none of us are 0. I see what you mean but for me I wouldn’t call someone having a preference for let’s say black men, racist. There are certainly levels to “racism” and as you say Hitler at 100, I just wouldn’t categorise someone with a sexual preference in a “racist” category. I can see why saying “No Asian profiles” on someone’s profile can be seen as quite offensive though as it’s pretty negative. Much better to put “Looking for white males” if that’s what they’re after, far more positive. I’ve been called a racist too many times on here for stating I’m seeking white men in my profile, but what these people don’t realise is I date ALL races and wouldn’t rule anyone out, however on here I’m seeking something different, something I wouldn’t find in my social circle usually. So there could be many people like me, after something specific. I know theres non interracial couples on here seeking interracial sex. And it gets my back up when people shout “racist” when it’s not. Discrimination maybe. " I think that last response perfectly illustrates the difference between racists and non-racist behaviour. You already said "I wouldn't rule anyone out". It's not even racist to say "im less likely to go for asian", it's just racist when you say "no blacks, no dogs, no irish". | |||
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"I have to agree with BB. So many people try to hide the fact that their sexual 'preferences' are in fact racial sexual preferences and therefore it is racist. I am not and I fucking reapeat, I AM NOT SAYING that you need to fuck ppl you aren't attracted to prove anyone anything. But saying that you will never sleep with any black or asian ppl on earth because you aren't attracted to them, it is racist. Simply because you are so called attraction is based on skin colour not on the person himself/herself. Yea you've nailed it in my opinion. Even if its not racist (which I think it is) its a dick move to put it on your profile. Like if someone said no fat people, no need to push the point, just don't reply to them. " Why not put their preference on their profile? It cuts down on the people they’re not interested in messaging them. If a guy says he is looking to meet slim women, I know not to message him, or if a guy says he is looking for white women I know not to message him. It’s a good thing in my opinion. However putting “No Asians” is certainly negative. Much better to put what your preference is in your profile so those who don’t fit it can hopefully move on and not waste their time. | |||
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"I have to agree with BB. So many people try to hide the fact that their sexual 'preferences' are in fact racial sexual preferences and therefore it is racist. I am not and I fucking reapeat, I AM NOT SAYING that you need to fuck ppl you aren't attracted to prove anyone anything. But saying that you will never sleep with any black or asian ppl on earth because you aren't attracted to them, it is racist. Simply because you are so called attraction is based on skin colour not on the person himself/herself. Yea you've nailed it in my opinion. Even if its not racist (which I think it is) its a dick move to put it on your profile. Like if someone said no fat people, no need to push the point, just don't reply to them. " Exactly. Why bothering stating it (while adding the famous 'I am not racist though') Just ignore the ones who do not fit your so called 'preferences'. | |||
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" You keep using this bullshit term like it means something. Return to my original statement. Go tell a tribunal that the reason you didn't interview the black man was "preference" and see how much they respect that explanation. It's the meaning of the word that is central to my argument, not the scenario. How is a job interview scenario related to sexual preferences? I hope you don't work in HR! There are problems with racism but when you call any mention of skin colour racist you devalue the real issues " Read the last sentence until it answers your question. | |||
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" Where do think these "preferences" come from? I don't care about forcing people to sleep with anyone, I'm just calling a spade a spade. When you sleep with someone because of their race, it's racist. I know a lot of people are horrified to learn that racism is a spectrum and they aren't the 100% non-racist they self identify as, but it is what it is. As a masculine white guy who ain't a limp wristed lefty, plenty of people confide in me the real reasons for their "preferences". I know the virtue signallers won't miss an opportunity to deny it though. Preferences can come from absolutely anywhere. You could grow up in a predominantly white area and know nothing other than that so only be attracted to white men. Plenty of people “confiding” in you doesn’t speak for everyone who has a preference. I’m not saying there aren’t racist people who use the “preference” line, there sure as hell is. But to call every single person who has a preference racist is ridiculous. Especially on here, some of us may be looking for something we don’t get in our civilian life, I rarely come across older white males in my social circle so I’m seeking something different on here than what I’ve had or what I get outside. I like all races, and wouldn’t rule one out, however I get that some people can be more attracted to people of another race or the same race as themselves. Unless they are treating another race as second class citizens who are below them, it’s not racist. Grouping people who have a preference into the same category as the KKK or people who want innocent people dead just because of the colour of their skin is madness. So your KKK comment is interesting, because you just said they are a category that we can all agree is 'racist' and you don't want to lump "No asian profiles" in with them. I can understand that. But my perspective is different. It's not two categories of racist and non-racist, it's a scale and let's say it goes from 0-100. We can put Hitler at 100 but none of us are 0. I see what you mean but for me I wouldn’t call someone having a preference for let’s say black men, racist. There are certainly levels to “racism” and as you say Hitler at 100, I just wouldn’t categorise someone with a sexual preference in a “racist” category. I can see why saying “No Asian profiles” on someone’s profile can be seen as quite offensive though as it’s pretty negative. Much better to put “Looking for white males” if that’s what they’re after, far more positive. I’ve been called a racist too many times on here for stating I’m seeking white men in my profile, but what these people don’t realise is I date ALL races and wouldn’t rule anyone out, however on here I’m seeking something different, something I wouldn’t find in my social circle usually. So there could be many people like me, after something specific. I know theres non interracial couples on here seeking interracial sex. And it gets my back up when people shout “racist” when it’s not. Discrimination maybe. " And the hundreds of women who have BBC only on their profile? Is that not racist? No of course it isn’t. This whole thread is just unbelievable. | |||
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"I have been on this site for a while and other swinging sites. I have had some meeting on other sites. However more and more user profiles don't want to connect with asain/indian guys. Im all honesty there is a lack of respect for women by many South Asian guys there is a disrespectful mannerism at times and people then generalise or avoid all after bad experiences though many have manners and are repectful a lot more arn't sadly. " | |||
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"I have been on this site for a while and other swinging sites. I have had some meeting on other sites. However more and more user profiles don't want to connect with asain/indian guys. The profiles you mention could all have a different reason for not wishing to meet whomever... in reality the only folk who could answer your question are the folk who state that preference in their profile ..anything else is pure conjecture .. I'm always surprised folk seem to focus on the profiles that exclude rather than those that include . " | |||
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" Where do think these "preferences" come from? I don't care about forcing people to sleep with anyone, I'm just calling a spade a spade. When you sleep with someone because of their race, it's racist. I know a lot of people are horrified to learn that racism is a spectrum and they aren't the 100% non-racist they self identify as, but it is what it is. As a masculine white guy who ain't a limp wristed lefty, plenty of people confide in me the real reasons for their "preferences". I know the virtue signallers won't miss an opportunity to deny it though. Preferences can come from absolutely anywhere. You could grow up in a predominantly white area and know nothing other than that so only be attracted to white men. Plenty of people “confiding” in you doesn’t speak for everyone who has a preference. I’m not saying there aren’t racist people who use the “preference” line, there sure as hell is. But to call every single person who has a preference racist is ridiculous. Especially on here, some of us may be looking for something we don’t get in our civilian life, I rarely come across older white males in my social circle so I’m seeking something different on here than what I’ve had or what I get outside. I like all races, and wouldn’t rule one out, however I get that some people can be more attracted to people of another race or the same race as themselves. Unless they are treating another race as second class citizens who are below them, it’s not racist. Grouping people who have a preference into the same category as the KKK or people who want innocent people dead just because of the colour of their skin is madness. So your KKK comment is interesting, because you just said they are a category that we can all agree is 'racist' and you don't want to lump "No asian profiles" in with them. I can understand that. But my perspective is different. It's not two categories of racist and non-racist, it's a scale and let's say it goes from 0-100. We can put Hitler at 100 but none of us are 0. I see what you mean but for me I wouldn’t call someone having a preference for let’s say black men, racist. There are certainly levels to “racism” and as you say Hitler at 100, I just wouldn’t categorise someone with a sexual preference in a “racist” category. I can see why saying “No Asian profiles” on someone’s profile can be seen as quite offensive though as it’s pretty negative. Much better to put “Looking for white males” if that’s what they’re after, far more positive. I’ve been called a racist too many times on here for stating I’m seeking white men in my profile, but what these people don’t realise is I date ALL races and wouldn’t rule anyone out, however on here I’m seeking something different, something I wouldn’t find in my social circle usually. So there could be many people like me, after something specific. I know theres non interracial couples on here seeking interracial sex. And it gets my back up when people shout “racist” when it’s not. Discrimination maybe. I think that last response perfectly illustrates the difference between racists and non-racist behaviour. You already said "I wouldn't rule anyone out". It's not even racist to say "im less likely to go for asian", it's just racist when you say "no blacks, no dogs, no irish". " Now I agree with that! I do think if people have a preference they should state the preference positively on their profile rather than “No black men” for example because it does sound negative. | |||
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"Definition of racism Number 1 prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior. Number 2 the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races. Definition of preference Number 1 a greater liking for one alternative over another or others. Number 2 a prior right or precedence, especially in connection with the payment of debts. Hope this helps all those thick fuckers who keep asking for a definition of racism against the definition of preference!! Now hopefully this will answer all the stupid fucking responses with the word 'racist' or a sentence with the words 'you're being racist' in the reply!!! " Your honour, I refuse to interview the black man because i have a preference for white candidates. I don't believe blacks are inferior, therefore it's not racist. Good luck with that one. Racism is treating people differently because of their race and nothing else. It's nothing to do with believing who is superior, what a nonsense concept that could never be proven. Only in 2018 could people warp the meaning of words so much, I must go and get a paper dictionary pre-2000 before the definition of words started being manipulated for political agendas. | |||
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"I think not replying to people is far ruder than stating preferences. Takes but a moment to say thanks but no thanks Not when you have 300 messages to reply to and then guys message back and say why not!!! " Filters can lower that amount exponentially | |||
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" Where do think these "preferences" come from? I don't care about forcing people to sleep with anyone, I'm just calling a spade a spade. When you sleep with someone because of their race, it's racist. I know a lot of people are horrified to learn that racism is a spectrum and they aren't the 100% non-racist they self identify as, but it is what it is. As a masculine white guy who ain't a limp wristed lefty, plenty of people confide in me the real reasons for their "preferences". I know the virtue signallers won't miss an opportunity to deny it though. Preferences can come from absolutely anywhere. You could grow up in a predominantly white area and know nothing other than that so only be attracted to white men. Plenty of people “confiding” in you doesn’t speak for everyone who has a preference. I’m not saying there aren’t racist people who use the “preference” line, there sure as hell is. But to call every single person who has a preference racist is ridiculous. Especially on here, some of us may be looking for something we don’t get in our civilian life, I rarely come across older white males in my social circle so I’m seeking something different on here than what I’ve had or what I get outside. I like all races, and wouldn’t rule one out, however I get that some people can be more attracted to people of another race or the same race as themselves. Unless they are treating another race as second class citizens who are below them, it’s not racist. Grouping people who have a preference into the same category as the KKK or people who want innocent people dead just because of the colour of their skin is madness. So your KKK comment is interesting, because you just said they are a category that we can all agree is 'racist' and you don't want to lump "No asian profiles" in with them. I can understand that. But my perspective is different. It's not two categories of racist and non-racist, it's a scale and let's say it goes from 0-100. We can put Hitler at 100 but none of us are 0. I see what you mean but for me I wouldn’t call someone having a preference for let’s say black men, racist. There are certainly levels to “racism” and as you say Hitler at 100, I just wouldn’t categorise someone with a sexual preference in a “racist” category. I can see why saying “No Asian profiles” on someone’s profile can be seen as quite offensive though as it’s pretty negative. Much better to put “Looking for white males” if that’s what they’re after, far more positive. I’ve been called a racist too many times on here for stating I’m seeking white men in my profile, but what these people don’t realise is I date ALL races and wouldn’t rule anyone out, however on here I’m seeking something different, something I wouldn’t find in my social circle usually. So there could be many people like me, after something specific. I know theres non interracial couples on here seeking interracial sex. And it gets my back up when people shout “racist” when it’s not. Discrimination maybe. And the hundreds of women who have BBC only on their profile? Is that not racist? No of course it isn’t. This whole thread is just unbelievable. " Racism is essentially treating someone negatively because of their ethnicity, so yes, globally excluding people you will interact with (whether it's socialising with, dating or having sex with) on the basis of their ethnicity is by definition racist. However, ones sexual life is a sphere of personal autonomy, so everyone is allowed to be racist in that sphere. | |||
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"I'm the same. I understand people have a preference but I don't understand why you would write it on your profile, it makes you look bigoted to exclude someone purely based on race. I just don't reply to people I'm not attracted to, simple. " Completely agree. | |||
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"Definition of racism Number 1 prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior. Number 2 the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races. Definition of preference Number 1 a greater liking for one alternative over another or others. Number 2 a prior right or precedence, especially in connection with the payment of debts. Hope this helps all those thick fuckers who keep asking for a definition of racism against the definition of preference!! Now hopefully this will answer all the stupid fucking responses with the word 'racist' or a sentence with the words 'you're being racist' in the reply!!! Your honour, I refuse to interview the black man because i have a preference for white candidates. I don't believe blacks are inferior, therefore it's not racist. Good luck with that one. Racism is treating people differently because of their race and nothing else. It's nothing to do with believing who is superior, what a nonsense concept that could never be proven. Only in 2018 could people warp the meaning of words so much, I must go and get a paper dictionary pre-2000 before the definition of words started being manipulated for political agendas. " Not being facetious but I would like to see that definition too. | |||
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"Bloody hell, I don't know why admin don't just block posts that get onto this and similar themes because every time one of them pops up the same reaction breaks out. They seem to bring out the worst of the posters who are so keen to prove themselves more politically correct/inclusive than anyone else on the topic. It seems they think Fab is actually a state-sponsored Political Correctness Re-education Camp and there are brownie points for being the most active in the process! Let's see if I have this right: Fab's core mission is a place for swingers to meet other swingers. People wanting to meet other swingers are able to specify the kind of swingers they want to meet and some of them even list those they aren't interested in (hence saving everybody's time and effort). How, in the name of common sense can anyone turn that into a debating point/slanging match? Let Fab do its job. You want a political/social discussion there are tons of other web sites where you can waste time and effort until the cows come home. " I actually find the discussion very interesting | |||
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"Definition of racism Number 1 prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior. Number 2 the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races. Definition of preference Number 1 a greater liking for one alternative over another or others. Number 2 a prior right or precedence, especially in connection with the payment of debts. Hope this helps all those thick fuckers who keep asking for a definition of racism against the definition of preference!! Now hopefully this will answer all the stupid fucking responses with the word 'racist' or a sentence with the words 'you're being racist' in the reply!!! Your honour, I refuse to interview the black man because i have a preference for white candidates. I don't believe blacks are inferior, therefore it's not racist. Good luck with that one. Racism is treating people differently because of their race and nothing else. It's nothing to do with believing who is superior, what a nonsense concept that could never be proven. Only in 2018 could people warp the meaning of words so much, I must go and get a paper dictionary pre-2000 before the definition of words started being manipulated for political agendas. Not being facetious but I would like to see that definition too." 2018 is just George Orwell's nightmare. We didn't introduce all the anti-discrimination legislation because we gave a crap what people thought in their heads about who is better than who. The idea that people even know their subconscious thoughts is ridiculous to start with. | |||
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"Definition of racism Number 1 prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior. Number 2 the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races. Definition of preference Number 1 a greater liking for one alternative over another or others. Number 2 a prior right or precedence, especially in connection with the payment of debts. Hope this helps all those thick fuckers who keep asking for a definition of racism against the definition of preference!! Now hopefully this will answer all the stupid fucking responses with the word 'racist' or a sentence with the words 'you're being racist' in the reply!!! Your honour, I refuse to interview the black man because i have a preference for white candidates. I don't believe blacks are inferior, therefore it's not racist. Good luck with that one. Racism is treating people differently because of their race and nothing else. It's nothing to do with believing who is superior, what a nonsense concept that could never be proven. Only in 2018 could people warp the meaning of words so much, I must go and get a paper dictionary pre-2000 before the definition of words started being manipulated for political agendas. " Please don't call me your honour, I'm not that important. These are the definitions from Google, I done because some people can't be arsed to use Google themselves!! I for one, couldn't careless what a persons skin colour is, nor do I care where they come from, nor do I care about their religion!! These just seem to be the most common forms of racism, I don't believe in religion because it causes nothing but death and war!! I also don't believe in religion because a certain religion believes that having 7 wives makes the male happier, I believe if you're not happy with one wife, why should having 7 make you any happier!! Are you going to persecute me because I don't believe in religion??? | |||
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"Definition of racism Number 1 prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior. Number 2 the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races. Definition of preference Number 1 a greater liking for one alternative over another or others. Number 2 a prior right or precedence, especially in connection with the payment of debts. Hope this helps all those thick fuckers who keep asking for a definition of racism against the definition of preference!! Now hopefully this will answer all the stupid fucking responses with the word 'racist' or a sentence with the words 'you're being racist' in the reply!!! Your honour, I refuse to interview the black man because i have a preference for white candidates. I don't believe blacks are inferior, therefore it's not racist. Good luck with that one. Racism is treating people differently because of their race and nothing else. It's nothing to do with believing who is superior, what a nonsense concept that could never be proven. Only in 2018 could people warp the meaning of words so much, I must go and get a paper dictionary pre-2000 before the definition of words started being manipulated for political agendas. Not being facetious but I would like to see that definition too. 2018 is just George Orwell's nightmare. We didn't introduce all the anti-discrimination legislation because we gave a crap what people thought in their heads about who is better than who. The idea that people even know their subconscious thoughts is ridiculous to start with. " Dude, what the are you talking about ? | |||
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"Definition of racism Number 1 prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior. Number 2 the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races. Definition of preference Number 1 a greater liking for one alternative over another or others. Number 2 a prior right or precedence, especially in connection with the payment of debts. Hope this helps all those thick fuckers who keep asking for a definition of racism against the definition of preference!! Now hopefully this will answer all the stupid fucking responses with the word 'racist' or a sentence with the words 'you're being racist' in the reply!!! Your honour, I refuse to interview the black man because i have a preference for white candidates. I don't believe blacks are inferior, therefore it's not racist. Good luck with that one. Racism is treating people differently because of their race and nothing else. It's nothing to do with believing who is superior, what a nonsense concept that could never be proven. Only in 2018 could people warp the meaning of words so much, I must go and get a paper dictionary pre-2000 before the definition of words started being manipulated for political agendas. Not being facetious but I would like to see that definition too. 2018 is just George Orwell's nightmare. We didn't introduce all the anti-discrimination legislation because we gave a crap what people thought in their heads about who is better than who. The idea that people even know their subconscious thoughts is ridiculous to start with. Dude, what the are you talking about ? " Google gave a stupid definition and I can't keep up with the changing meaning of words. | |||
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"Bloody hell, I don't know why admin don't just block posts that get onto this and similar themes because every time one of them pops up the same reaction breaks out. They seem to bring out the worst of the posters who are so keen to prove themselves more politically correct/inclusive than anyone else on the topic. It seems they think Fab is actually a state-sponsored Political Correctness Re-education Camp and there are brownie points for being the most active in the process! Let's see if I have this right: Fab's core mission is a place for swingers to meet other swingers. People wanting to meet other swingers are able to specify the kind of swingers they want to meet and some of them even list those they aren't interested in (hence saving everybody's time and effort). How, in the name of common sense can anyone turn that into a debating point/slanging match? Let Fab do its job. You want a political/social discussion there are tons of other web sites where you can waste time and effort until the cows come home. I actually find the discussion very interesting " I do to, but this is so what this site is about and this opinion pin points, exactly what this site is about and said profiles to. Well done xx | |||
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"Definition of racism Number 1 prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior. Number 2 the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races. Definition of preference Number 1 a greater liking for one alternative over another or others. Number 2 a prior right or precedence, especially in connection with the payment of debts. Hope this helps all those thick fuckers who keep asking for a definition of racism against the definition of preference!! Now hopefully this will answer all the stupid fucking responses with the word 'racist' or a sentence with the words 'you're being racist' in the reply!!! Your honour, I refuse to interview the black man because i have a preference for white candidates. I don't believe blacks are inferior, therefore it's not racist. Good luck with that one. Racism is treating people differently because of their race and nothing else. It's nothing to do with believing who is superior, what a nonsense concept that could never be proven. Only in 2018 could people warp the meaning of words so much, I must go and get a paper dictionary pre-2000 before the definition of words started being manipulated for political agendas. Not being facetious but I would like to see that definition too. 2018 is just George Orwell's nightmare. We didn't introduce all the anti-discrimination legislation because we gave a crap what people thought in their heads about who is better than who. The idea that people even know their subconscious thoughts is ridiculous to start with. Dude, what the are you talking about ? Google gave a stupid definition and I can't keep up with the changing meaning of words. " It may have given a stupid definition, but it is still a definition you asked for in several of your replies on other posts, I was being nice by doing the job for you! | |||
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"There are shit loads of profiles that say this. But there are also ones that say no white men, and no black men too. I like profiles that don't go by the colour of people's skin. (Back off preference police.) I'm the same. I understand people have a preference but I don't understand why you would write it on your profile, it makes you look bigoted to exclude someone purely based on race. I just don't reply to people I'm not attracted to, simple. " I agree! | |||
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"Definition of racism Number 1 prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior. Number 2 the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races. Definition of preference Number 1 a greater liking for one alternative over another or others. Number 2 a prior right or precedence, especially in connection with the payment of debts. Hope this helps all those thick fuckers who keep asking for a definition of racism against the definition of preference!! Now hopefully this will answer all the stupid fucking responses with the word 'racist' or a sentence with the words 'you're being racist' in the reply!!! Your honour, I refuse to interview the black man because i have a preference for white candidates. I don't believe blacks are inferior, therefore it's not racist. Good luck with that one. Racism is treating people differently because of their race and nothing else. It's nothing to do with believing who is superior, what a nonsense concept that could never be proven. Only in 2018 could people warp the meaning of words so much, I must go and get a paper dictionary pre-2000 before the definition of words started being manipulated for political agendas. Not being facetious but I would like to see that definition too. 2018 is just George Orwell's nightmare. We didn't introduce all the anti-discrimination legislation because we gave a crap what people thought in their heads about who is better than who. The idea that people even know their subconscious thoughts is ridiculous to start with. Dude, what the are you talking about ? Google gave a stupid definition and I can't keep up with the changing meaning of words. It may have given a stupid definition, but it is still a definition you asked for in several of your replies on other posts, I was being nice by doing the job for you! " I know but i also gave you the definition of racism im using, which doesn't care about who is superior to who. I said x behaviour is racist, other people I said it wasn't. Using the definition you found, I think i could successfully argue that the KKK isn't a racist organisation. So if we're going to reach any conclusion, we have to agree on the meaning of words. | |||
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"Definition of racism Number 1 prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior. Number 2 the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races. Definition of preference Number 1 a greater liking for one alternative over another or others. Number 2 a prior right or precedence, especially in connection with the payment of debts. Hope this helps all those thick fuckers who keep asking for a definition of racism against the definition of preference!! Now hopefully this will answer all the stupid fucking responses with the word 'racist' or a sentence with the words 'you're being racist' in the reply!!! Your honour, I refuse to interview the black man because i have a preference for white candidates. I don't believe blacks are inferior, therefore it's not racist. Good luck with that one. Racism is treating people differently because of their race and nothing else. It's nothing to do with believing who is superior, what a nonsense concept that could never be proven. Only in 2018 could people warp the meaning of words so much, I must go and get a paper dictionary pre-2000 before the definition of words started being manipulated for political agendas. Not being facetious but I would like to see that definition too. 2018 is just George Orwell's nightmare. We didn't introduce all the anti-discrimination legislation because we gave a crap what people thought in their heads about who is better than who. The idea that people even know their subconscious thoughts is ridiculous to start with. Dude, what the are you talking about ? Google gave a stupid definition and I can't keep up with the changing meaning of words. It may have given a stupid definition, but it is still a definition you asked for in several of your replies on other posts, I was being nice by doing the job for you! I know but i also gave you the definition of racism im using, which doesn't care about who is superior to who. I said x behaviour is racist, other people I said it wasn't. Using the definition you found, I think i could successfully argue that the KKK isn't a racist organisation. So if we're going to reach any conclusion, we have to agree on the meaning of words. " Wouldn't the kkk come within definition 2. They certainly think each race possess characteristics and abilities specific to that race | |||
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"Definition of racism Number 1 prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior. Number 2 the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races. Definition of preference Number 1 a greater liking for one alternative over another or others. Number 2 a prior right or precedence, especially in connection with the payment of debts. Hope this helps all those thick fuckers who keep asking for a definition of racism against the definition of preference!! Now hopefully this will answer all the stupid fucking responses with the word 'racist' or a sentence with the words 'you're being racist' in the reply!!! Your honour, I refuse to interview the black man because i have a preference for white candidates. I don't believe blacks are inferior, therefore it's not racist. Good luck with that one. Racism is treating people differently because of their race and nothing else. It's nothing to do with believing who is superior, what a nonsense concept that could never be proven. Only in 2018 could people warp the meaning of words so much, I must go and get a paper dictionary pre-2000 before the definition of words started being manipulated for political agendas. Not being facetious but I would like to see that definition too. 2018 is just George Orwell's nightmare. We didn't introduce all the anti-discrimination legislation because we gave a crap what people thought in their heads about who is better than who. The idea that people even know their subconscious thoughts is ridiculous to start with. Dude, what the are you talking about ? Google gave a stupid definition and I can't keep up with the changing meaning of words. It may have given a stupid definition, but it is still a definition you asked for in several of your replies on other posts, I was being nice by doing the job for you! I know but i also gave you the definition of racism im using, which doesn't care about who is superior to who. I said x behaviour is racist, other people I said it wasn't. Using the definition you found, I think i could successfully argue that the KKK isn't a racist organisation. So if we're going to reach any conclusion, we have to agree on the meaning of words. Wouldn't the kkk come within definition 2. They certainly think each race possess characteristics and abilities specific to that race " And definition 1. Thinking their race is superior. | |||
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"Definition of racism Number 1 prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior. Number 2 the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races. Definition of preference Number 1 a greater liking for one alternative over another or others. Number 2 a prior right or precedence, especially in connection with the payment of debts. Hope this helps all those thick fuckers who keep asking for a definition of racism against the definition of preference!! Now hopefully this will answer all the stupid fucking responses with the word 'racist' or a sentence with the words 'you're being racist' in the reply!!! Your honour, I refuse to interview the black man because i have a preference for white candidates. I don't believe blacks are inferior, therefore it's not racist. Good luck with that one. Racism is treating people differently because of their race and nothing else. It's nothing to do with believing who is superior, what a nonsense concept that could never be proven. Only in 2018 could people warp the meaning of words so much, I must go and get a paper dictionary pre-2000 before the definition of words started being manipulated for political agendas. Not being facetious but I would like to see that definition too. 2018 is just George Orwell's nightmare. We didn't introduce all the anti-discrimination legislation because we gave a crap what people thought in their heads about who is better than who. The idea that people even know their subconscious thoughts is ridiculous to start with. Dude, what the are you talking about ? Google gave a stupid definition and I can't keep up with the changing meaning of words. It may have given a stupid definition, but it is still a definition you asked for in several of your replies on other posts, I was being nice by doing the job for you! I know but i also gave you the definition of racism im using, which doesn't care about who is superior to who. I said x behaviour is racist, other people I said it wasn't. Using the definition you found, I think i could successfully argue that the KKK isn't a racist organisation. So if we're going to reach any conclusion, we have to agree on the meaning of words. Wouldn't the kkk come within definition 2. They certainly think each race possess characteristics and abilities specific to that race " No because you didn't quote it fully, most modern fraternities make no claims (officially) about one race being superior to others, although the KKK is more a federation than a single organisation so maybe some will let it slip. Anyway, the dominant narrative is just that God created different races that aren't meant to mix, that's why they were created differently. The white people should have a seperate living space, just like the blacks should have there's. It's not that the whites are better, just different (officially). Many high ranking KKK members speak openly about black people they admire. Lenny Kravitz is popular because rednecks like guitar music. | |||
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"Seeing Asian guys on the swinging scene isn't a problem for me Would I jump in bed with an Asian guy ? Probably not Some of it is down to skin tone (I don't find dark skin attractive in general), some of it is a default of religion (I don't like cut guys), some of it is down to the fact a lot of Asian guys want to fuck you (I'm not into getting fucked) So, whilst I would engage with an Asian guy in chat, the chance of that chat converting into a meet is pretty slim I don't think that makes me anti-Asian, they are all just factors of knowing what I want and don't want Saying “I don’t find dark skin attractive” sounds pretty negative and offensive. I’m sure you don’t mean it in that way but there are probably better ways to say that. OP I do agree about Asian men having a reputation, however I don’t think anyone should label all like that. It could simply be down to personal preference. Not much you can do about that! " Its a difficult one. I find black women very attractive. The darker the skin the better. Skin tones vary. The same with white women.now women with freckles are amazing regardless of skin colour | |||
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" You keep using this bullshit term like it means something. Return to my original statement. Go tell a tribunal that the reason you didn't interview the black man was "preference" and see how much they respect that explanation. It's the meaning of the word that is central to my argument, not the scenario. How is a job interview scenario related to sexual preferences? I hope you don't work in HR! There are problems with racism but when you call any mention of skin colour racist you devalue the real issues Read the last sentence until it answers your question. " Any mention of skin colour is racist? You're a fucking loon. Or a troll? | |||
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"Serious face on now. Many women here would say they don’t care about race and I have no doubt they are genuine when they say this. But line an Asian and a non-Asian man up I would be willing to bet the non-Asian is preferred, probably overwhelmingly as well. It’s not necessarily about racism, it’s that Asian men are viewed a second class when it comes to relationships (and sex)." Interesting point of view... | |||
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"Serious face on now. Many women here would say they don’t care about race and I have no doubt they are genuine when they say this. But line an Asian and a non-Asian man up I would be willing to bet the non-Asian is preferred, probably overwhelmingly as well. It’s not necessarily about racism, it’s that Asian men are viewed a second class when it comes to relationships (and sex). Interesting point of view... " In what sense? | |||
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"I'm so confused! So I'm black, my whole family is black. I love black people. But unless it's Idris Elba Im less likely to jump a black man's bones than a white one. So what kind of racist am I? Mrs" You are not a racist you have preferences like we all do. I don't want a bloke fucking me up the arse but that dosn't make me homophobic! | |||
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"I don't care about race. But I do care about religion nationality and culture. I like certain foreign cultures but don't like others. " Yeah, I'll meet mormons and JW but i draw the line at scientologists | |||
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"I'm so confused! So I'm black, my whole family is black. I love black people. But unless it's Idris Elba Im less likely to jump a black man's bones than a white one. So what kind of racist am I? Mrs" Idris elba for the next James bond! | |||
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"I'm so confused! So I'm black, my whole family is black. I love black people. But unless it's Idris Elba Im less likely to jump a black man's bones than a white one. So what kind of racist am I? Mrs" I'm completely confused by the entire thread. | |||
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"I have been on this site for a while and other swinging sites. I have had some meeting on other sites. However more and more user profiles don't want to connect with asain/indian guys. " I will explain what is going on for you in your brain. When people go to see a psychic he or she does something called cold reading. They guess a lot of things about you. Let's say they get 6 things right about you and get 12 things wrong. People forget the 12 things they got wrong and remember the 6 things they got right. Later on when they tell people about the psychic they will mention the 6 things they got right and fail to mention any of the many things they have got wrong. Their brain has simply forgotten about all the things the psychic got wrong. A similar thing is happening to you. You are forgetting the many profiles that will meet Asian/Indian guys and only remembering the few profiles that you read that say no Asian/Indian men. It's the same with guys who complain about couples not wanting to meet single men. They are forgetting the many couples who do meet single men and remembering the ones they have read that don't meet single men. We all have types of people that turn us on. It's called personal preference. It's not racism because they don't fancy Asian/Indian men. | |||
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"Definition of racism Number 1 prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior. Number 2 the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races. Definition of preference Number 1 a greater liking for one alternative over another or others. Number 2 a prior right or precedence, especially in connection with the payment of debts. Hope this helps all those thick fuckers who keep asking for a definition of racism against the definition of preference!! Now hopefully this will answer all the stupid fucking responses with the word 'racist' or a sentence with the words 'you're being racist' in the reply!!! Your honour, I refuse to interview the black man because i have a preference for white candidates. I don't believe blacks are inferior, therefore it's not racist. Good luck with that one. Racism is treating people differently because of their race and nothing else. It's nothing to do with believing who is superior, what a nonsense concept that could never be proven. Only in 2018 could people warp the meaning of words so much, I must go and get a paper dictionary pre-2000 before the definition of words started being manipulated for political agendas. Not being facetious but I would like to see that definition too. 2018 is just George Orwell's nightmare. We didn't introduce all the anti-discrimination legislation because we gave a crap what people thought in their heads about who is better than who. The idea that people even know their subconscious thoughts is ridiculous to start with. Dude, what the are you talking about ? Google gave a stupid definition and I can't keep up with the changing meaning of words. It may have given a stupid definition, but it is still a definition you asked for in several of your replies on other posts, I was being nice by doing the job for you! I know but i also gave you the definition of racism im using, which doesn't care about who is superior to who. I said x behaviour is racist, other people I said it wasn't. Using the definition you found, I think i could successfully argue that the KKK isn't a racist organisation. So if we're going to reach any conclusion, we have to agree on the meaning of words. Wouldn't the kkk come within definition 2. They certainly think each race possess characteristics and abilities specific to that race No because you didn't quote it fully, most modern fraternities make no claims (officially) about one race being superior to others, although the KKK is more a federation than a single organisation so maybe some will let it slip. Anyway, the dominant narrative is just that God created different races that aren't meant to mix, that's why they were created differently. The white people should have a seperate living space, just like the blacks should have there's. It's not that the whites are better, just different (officially). Many high ranking KKK members speak openly about black people they admire. Lenny Kravitz is popular because rednecks like guitar music. " Wow. This is pretty surrealistic. Of all people, Lenny Kravitz must be a Clan member's nightmare. | |||
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"Sadly Asian men have a reputation (completely wrongly) for having little respect for women. Some are not prepared to see beyond that and other racial stereotypes. We prefer to take individuals on their own merit, regardless of the colour of their skin, or anything else for that matter. Use those profiles stating "their preference" as a filter. It's guilt by association basically. I know we're not allowed to say it, but every club has horror stories of groups of Asian men coming into swinging clubs acting like it's a brothel. So some people decide to write off all Asian guys for that reason and hide behind the bullshit statement of "it's a preference". Fine, it's a racist preference then. " Nope, out of the 19 different clubs I go to or have been to, only 1 would let a group of men in. Every other club allows men in 1s or 2s and I've never seen or heard of that "horror story" | |||
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"There are shit loads of profiles that say this. But there are also ones that say no white men, and no black men too. I like profiles that don't go by the colour of people's skin. (Back off preference police.) I'm the same. I understand people have a preference but I don't understand why you would write it on your profile, it makes you look bigoted to exclude someone purely based on race. I just don't reply to people I'm not attracted to, simple. " This is the correct way, don't put it in profile just ignore those messages but flip side of that especially with very popular women or couples it means the message numbers are driven up, higher chance of mass delete of messages so others suffer as a result....... You can't win | |||
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"I find it the opposite. Why do so many profiles don't want white men. " Lmao!!!! | |||
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"I'm so confused! So I'm black, my whole family is black. I love black people. But unless it's Idris Elba Im less likely to jump a black man's bones than a white one. So what kind of racist am I? Mrs I'm completely confused by the entire thread." Hahahaha me too! | |||
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"I'm so confused! So I'm black, my whole family is black. I love black people. But unless it's Idris Elba Im less likely to jump a black man's bones than a white one. So what kind of racist am I? Mrs Idris elba for the next James bond! " | |||
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" Try refusing to interview a job candidate because you don't like their skin colour and say it's not racist. By all means say you don't like a given skin colour, but cut the crap pretending that's not racist. It's the fucking definition of racism. " Thats a whole other kettle of fish ... ability to do a job and sexual attraction are not comparable Some people don’t like dark skinned people ... i don’t like milk bottle blue pale skinned people ... one gets attributed to being racist and the other preference when in terms of sexual attraction its most likely the same thing | |||
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" Racism is deeming another race inferior to your own. Having a sexual preference is NOT that. If you didn’t fancy Asians and thought they were second class citizens and wouldn’t acknowledge them in anyway shape or form then yes that’s racist. If you don’t fancy Asians but you acknowledge them and treat them just as equally as anyone else, it’s simply a preference. There’s a big difference. You cannot force people to sleep with someone they aren’t attracted to by calling it “racist”, it’s not racism." Spot on | |||
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" Try refusing to interview a job candidate because you don't like their skin colour and say it's not racist. By all means say you don't like a given skin colour, but cut the crap pretending that's not racist. It's the fucking definition of racism. Thats a whole other kettle of fish ... ability to do a job and sexual attraction are not comparable Some people don’t like dark skinned people ... i don’t like milk bottle blue pale skinned people ... one gets attributed to being racist and the other preference when in terms of sexual attraction its most likely the same thing " What if someone refused to offer someone a job because he genuinely found people of that race so unattractive that he got upset just by looking at them. Would we call that racist or just a preference? | |||
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"Some have even said no big penises, should I be worried? " Who would say such a thing? | |||
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"Sadly Asian men have a reputation (completely wrongly) for having little respect for women. Some are not prepared to see beyond that and other racial stereotypes. We prefer to take individuals on their own merit, regardless of the colour of their skin, or anything else for that matter. Use those profiles stating "their preference" as a filter. It's guilt by association basically. I know we're not allowed to say it, but every club has horror stories of groups of Asian men coming into swinging clubs acting like it's a brothel. So some people decide to write off all Asian guys for that reason and hide behind the bullshit statement of "it's a preference". Fine, it's a racist preference then. Nope, out of the 19 different clubs I go to or have been to, only 1 would let a group of men in. Every other club allows men in 1s or 2s and I've never seen or heard of that "horror story"" I have seen men do this in ones and twos. And yes, they have usually been Asian. All the others seem to be able to at least pretend they have respect for the women there. Must be something cultural, although of course not all Asian men do this in clubs and at parties but I have seen enough examples. It seems hard for some men to overcome their "traditional" upbringing even if doing so would improve their chances with women. | |||
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" Try refusing to interview a job candidate because you don't like their skin colour and say it's not racist. By all means say you don't like a given skin colour, but cut the crap pretending that's not racist. It's the fucking definition of racism. Thats a whole other kettle of fish ... ability to do a job and sexual attraction are not comparable Some people don’t like dark skinned people ... i don’t like milk bottle blue pale skinned people ... one gets attributed to being racist and the other preference when in terms of sexual attraction its most likely the same thing What if someone refused to offer someone a job because he genuinely found people of that race so unattractive that he got upset just by looking at them. Would we call that racist or just a preference? " you're offering up supposition now a hypothetical situation is not comparative to this | |||
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"I prefer when it says NO BLACKS! At the beginning of there profile. It makes it so much easier, I can just file there profile in the block folder " It like having a sign outside the the shop or school, internet segregation at its best disguise under the word preference....it will be men over 6ft only next, wait a minute #humansBeingsBaffling | |||
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"Probably experience. " In my case, it is experience. I have tried both black and Asian/Indian guys, and noticed they are not for me, for a variety of reasons. Mainly- arrogance, sense of entitlement and how they treat women. Also, I have been to clubs enough times and usually thr guys who either try to 'help themselves without asking' or who are very much 'in your face' are, unfortunately, coloured guys. I do understand that not all coloured guys are like that, but a few spoiled it for the rest. And I am not going to apologise for setting it on my profile that I do not meet black or Asian/Indian/Middle Eastern guys. My profile is my 'shop window', if you don't like the display, just move to the next one. Simples. | |||
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"I don't care about race. But I do care about religion nationality and culture. I like certain foreign cultures but don't like others. " I think if more people were honest you would find out this is where the prejudice against asian men most likely comes from ... nothing to do with race and lots to do with perceived culture and opinions of (particularly non monogamous) women | |||
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" Try refusing to interview a job candidate because you don't like their skin colour and say it's not racist. By all means say you don't like a given skin colour, but cut the crap pretending that's not racist. It's the fucking definition of racism. Thats a whole other kettle of fish ... ability to do a job and sexual attraction are not comparable Some people don’t like dark skinned people ... i don’t like milk bottle blue pale skinned people ... one gets attributed to being racist and the other preference when in terms of sexual attraction its most likely the same thing What if someone refused to offer someone a job because he genuinely found people of that race so unattractive that he got upset just by looking at them. Would we call that racist or just a preference? " Thats racist because BY LAW you are meant to interview people based on their ability for a job When deciding who you find attractive and want to fuck its much more complex than that ...sexual chemistry for example is not something relevant for a job interview People keep trying to compare sex with job interviews and pedantically going back to what they believe is “an english dictionary definition of racisim” For having such a good grasp of the english language they appear to have forgotten that context is everything ... interviews and sex are entirely different contexts | |||
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" Thats racist because BY LAW you are meant to interview people based on their ability for a job When deciding who you find attractive and want to fuck its much more complex than that ...sexual chemistry for example is not something relevant for a job interview People keep trying to compare sex with job interviews and pedantically going back to what they believe is “an english dictionary definition of racisim” For having such a good grasp of the english language they appear to have forgotten that context is everything ... interviews and sex are entirely different contexts " Just to add to this as well, pretty much all the arguments being used to claim racism could also apply to sexuality. I'm sure if those shouting 'racism' are straight they somehow don't consider it to be homophobic (quite rightly) if they state they don't want to sleep with a partner of the same sex. It shows the whole interview analogy is nonsense. | |||
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" Try refusing to interview a job candidate because you don't like their skin colour and say it's not racist. By all means say you don't like a given skin colour, but cut the crap pretending that's not racist. It's the fucking definition of racism. Thats a whole other kettle of fish ... ability to do a job and sexual attraction are not comparable Some people don’t like dark skinned people ... i don’t like milk bottle blue pale skinned people ... one gets attributed to being racist and the other preference when in terms of sexual attraction its most likely the same thing What if someone refused to offer someone a job because he genuinely found people of that race so unattractive that he got upset just by looking at them. Would we call that racist or just a preference? Thats racist because BY LAW you are meant to interview people based on their ability for a job When deciding who you find attractive and want to fuck its much more complex than that ...sexual chemistry for example is not something relevant for a job interview People keep trying to compare sex with job interviews and pedantically going back to what they believe is “an english dictionary definition of racisim” For having such a good grasp of the english language they appear to have forgotten that context is everything ... interviews and sex are entirely different contexts " Absolutely spot on. But it won’t stop them from trying to drum up a million and one scenarios in their head to try to validate their point. | |||
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" Thats racist because BY LAW you are meant to interview people based on their ability for a job When deciding who you find attractive and want to fuck its much more complex than that ...sexual chemistry for example is not something relevant for a job interview People keep trying to compare sex with job interviews and pedantically going back to what they believe is “an english dictionary definition of racisim” For having such a good grasp of the english language they appear to have forgotten that context is everything ... interviews and sex are entirely different contexts Just to add to this as well, pretty much all the arguments being used to claim racism could also apply to sexuality. I'm sure if those shouting 'racism' are straight they somehow don't consider it to be homophobic (quite rightly) if they state they don't want to sleep with a partner of the same sex. It shows the whole interview analogy is nonsense." Agreed. Funny nobody has responded to this or a similar post about it on another thread. | |||
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" I think if more people were honest you would find out this is where the prejudice against asian men most likely comes from ... nothing to do with race and lots to do with perceived culture and opinions of (particularly non monogamous) women " Islam isn't exactly compatible with our lifestyles on a swinging sight. But also men from Saudi and India are often deprived and wierd and it leads them to be inappropriate. | |||
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"There are shit loads of profiles that say this. But there are also ones that say no white men, and no black men too. I like profiles that don't go by the colour of people's skin. (Back off preference police.) " | |||
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" I think if more people were honest you would find out this is where the prejudice against asian men most likely comes from ... nothing to do with race and lots to do with perceived culture and opinions of (particularly non monogamous) women Islam isn't exactly compatible with our lifestyles on a swinging sight. But also men from Saudi and India are often deprived and wierd and it leads them to be inappropriate." Neither is catholicism but people dont usually draw the same conclusions ... my opinion is its less about religion and more about assuming someones culture and upbringing probably included elements where women were second class to men | |||
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"This is exactly why people are afraid to say anything these days. How ridiculous saying it’s racist. It’s no different to me saying im not physically attracted to skinny men or someone saying they’re not attracted to very big women, someone preferring red heads etc. I am much more physically attracted to white men personally. If that makes me racist then this world really has gone bonkers. " Well said | |||
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" I think if more people were honest you would find out this is where the prejudice against asian men most likely comes from ... nothing to do with race and lots to do with perceived culture and opinions of (particularly non monogamous) women Islam isn't exactly compatible with our lifestyles on a swinging sight. But also men from Saudi and India are often deprived and wierd and it leads them to be inappropriate. Neither is catholicism but people dont usually draw the same conclusions ... my opinion is its less about religion and more about assuming someones culture and upbringing probably included elements where women were second class to men " I don't meet men of any race where I am made to feel second class ... this also includes white men and guys who think some girls (ie “fab sluts”) are good for fucking and others are for dating If people have experienced this repeatedly from one group of people and tarred them all with same brush and excluded them from their profile... have they potentially missed out on meeting someone great who didnt fit the image they have in their head if they took the time to get to know them ... yes ... but can i blame them ... no ... people come here for their own fun and why should they have to encounter people they have chosen not to just because someone else deems it offensive for them to state so on their profile | |||
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" I think if more people were honest you would find out this is where the prejudice against asian men most likely comes from ... nothing to do with race and lots to do with perceived culture and opinions of (particularly non monogamous) women Islam isn't exactly compatible with our lifestyles on a swinging sight. But also men from Saudi and India are often deprived and wierd and it leads them to be inappropriate. Neither is catholicism but people dont usually draw the same conclusions ... my opinion is its less about religion and more about assuming someones culture and upbringing probably included elements where women were second class to men I don't meet men of any race where I am made to feel second class ... this also includes white men and guys who think some girls (ie “fab sluts”) are good for fucking and others are for dating If people have experienced this repeatedly from one group of people and tarred them all with same brush and excluded them from their profile... have they potentially missed out on meeting someone great who didnt fit the image they have in their head if they took the time to get to know them ... yes ... but can i blame them ... no ... people come here for their own fun and why should they have to encounter people they have chosen not to just because someone else deems it offensive for them to state so on their profile " offensive is offensive don't you think, it should be avoided at all costs we all know why they do it, it cuts down messages and for the most part people they actually don't want to interact with but the mere inclusion of them words is upsetting for some people and for what, to save time | |||
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" Even though one has to respect others preference but it appears that they are segregated from swinging or mixing with other races by preference which can't be good for our society as a whole." | |||
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"Seeing Asian guys on the swinging scene isn't a problem for me Would I jump in bed with an Asian guy ? Probably not Some of it is down to skin tone (I don't find dark skin attractive in general), some of it is a default of religion (I don't like cut guys), some of it is down to the fact a lot of Asian guys want to fuck you (I'm not into getting fucked) So, whilst I would engage with an Asian guy in chat, the chance of that chat converting into a meet is pretty slim I don't think that makes me anti-Asian, they are all just factors of knowing what I want and don't want Saying “I don’t find dark skin attractive” sounds pretty negative and offensive. I’m sure you don’t mean it in that way but there are probably better ways to say that. OP I do agree about Asian men having a reputation, however I don’t think anyone should label all like that. It could simply be down to personal preference. Not much you can do about that! You are correct in that no offence was intended Skin tone does play a major part in attraction for me though The darker the skin, the less attractive I seem to find someone For example, I adore olive skin / mixed race / arabic skin tones, but I very, very rarely find a darker skinned Asian or Black person attractive. By contrast, a former partner of mine who was Portuguese didn't find olive skin attractive - he went solely for pale skin, the whiter the better and, if ginger too, he was in heaven So it is definitely a thing for some people I've given up trying to work out why I find some things attractive and other things not so, I just go with the flow and accept it these days" | |||
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"Some interesting comments on this thread I've felt this so let me put my perspective. It's fair to say on fab UK that most of the profiles are Caucasians due to existing demography. If for example every 9 profile out of 10 rejected Asian males based on their preference which I believe is their right. It doesn't feel very nice to be on the receiving end specially when you are the only race who aren't liked as much in comparison to other races for whatever the reason it maybe. I can't blame people for their choices but rejecting one race more than other races raises a question. But I believe the conclusion or answer we are looking for is that why Asians are on the no preference list on majority of the profiles. I understand every race have their niche when it comes to swinging but it appears no one wants Asians and this is a general observation. Even though one has to respect others preference but it appears that they are segregated from swinging or mixing with other races by preference which can't be good for our society as a whole." This is the more well written post in this thread. | |||
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"There are shit loads of profiles that say this. But there are also ones that say no white men, and no black men too. I like profiles that don't go by the colour of people's skin. (Back off preference police.) I'm the same. I understand people have a preference but I don't understand why you would write it on your profile, it makes you look bigoted to exclude someone purely based on race. I just don't reply to people I'm not attracted to, simple. Totally agree, there’s really no need or excuse to put it on profiles. " Because it saves them and others from wasting each others time if its on a profile..people have preferences..like fat, slim,not bald, no beards, bi, won't meet black, white or asian and so on | |||
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"Some interesting comments on this thread I've felt this so let me put my perspective. It's fair to say on fab UK that most of the profiles are Caucasians due to existing demography. If for example every 9 profile out of 10 rejected Asian males based on their preference which I believe is their right. It doesn't feel very nice to be on the receiving end specially when you are the only race who aren't liked as much in comparison to other races for whatever the reason it maybe. I can't blame people for their choices but rejecting one race more than other races raises a question. But I believe the conclusion or answer we are looking for is that why Asians are on the no preference list on majority of the profiles. I understand every race have their niche when it comes to swinging but it appears no one wants Asians and this is a general observation. Even though one has to respect others preference but it appears that they are segregated from swinging or mixing with other races by preference which can't be good for our society as a whole. This is the more well written post in this thread. " | |||
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" Because it saves them and others from wasting each others time if its on a profile..people have preferences..like fat, slim,not bald, no beards, bi, won't meet black, white or asian and so on " Yes we all have preferences and we should be able to choose who we meet. But in general 90% of people won't have Asians so you have only 10% to choose from but such is life. The point I'm making is when you are not accepted by majority even because of preference and nothing to do with racism it becomes a social injustice for the receiver as all they can see that most people don't want them and this just leads for one section of the society to keep it to themselves and not mingle with the rest. My conclusion is most people are trying to say in the most subtle way possible that we only care about what we like which is their right but I believe this thread was never about that. | |||
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" Because it saves them and others from wasting each others time if its on a profile..people have preferences..like fat, slim,not bald, no beards, bi, won't meet black, white or asian and so on Yes we all have preferences and we should be able to choose who we meet. But in general 90% of people won't have Asians so you have only 10% to choose from but such is life. The point I'm making is when you are not accepted by majority even because of preference and nothing to do with racism it becomes a social injustice for the receiver as all they can see that most people don't want them and this just leads for one section of the society to keep it to themselves and not mingle with the rest. My conclusion is most people are trying to say in the most subtle way possible that we only care about what we like which is their right but I believe this thread was never about that." It may seem that way because of the percentages..if this was Fab India for example, white folk would be in the minority and would probably be the same percentage rejection wise | |||
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" It may seem that way because of the percentages..if this was Fab India for example, white folk would be in the minority and would probably be the same percentage rejection wise " FabIndia is a clothing brand I agree the demography in India would be different and white folks will be minority but I have similar reservations about them being neglected if that happens over there as that's not right and this is what I'm trying to highlight. White people will be minority in FabNigeria as well and they might have same rejection % there but on the contrary a Nigerian here wouldn't have the same rejection rate as compared to Indian/Asian on Fab here. So it's not too much about the country but it's about a particular race. MOS - If majority doesn't feel the rejection then it's not their concern. | |||
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"I have been on this site for a while and other swinging sites. I have had some meeting on other sites. However more and more user profiles don't want to connect with asain/indian guys. " Just preferences I guess, everyone has them... I don't think they're 'anti-asian' or racist | |||
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"There are shit loads of profiles that say this. But there are also ones that say no white men, and no black men too. I like profiles that don't go by the colour of people's skin. (Back off preference police.) I'm the same. I understand people have a preference but I don't understand why you would write it on your profile, it makes you look bigoted to exclude someone purely based on race. I just don't reply to people I'm not attracted to, simple. " Exactly this! | |||
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