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By *AYENCouple
over a year ago
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If it's about Raheem Sterling, I think he's absolutely right - we have some very mediocre players that get put on a pedastal - they all happen to be white, and some as good, or better players that get very little attention from the media and or the public, that happen to be black. Sadly, it's no coincedence.
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By *evaquitCouple
over a year ago
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That Sterling is the target of a media witchunt because of his colour? Personally I don't agree with him but not saying it's not there, would need a bit more 'meat on the bones' rather than Wrightys vague process of elimination. |
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"If it's about Raheem Sterling, I think he's absolutely right - we have some very mediocre players that get put on a pedastal - they all happen to be white, and some as good, or better players that get very little attention from the media and or the public, that happen to be black. Sadly, it's no coincedence.
K"
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So what do you think is the problem and do you have a solution |
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By *AYENCouple
over a year ago
Lincolnshire |
"So what do you think is the problem and do you have a solution"
Haha, I wish - time might sort it, attitudes need to change from all sides - so either a LOT of time or something big that makes race unimportant. |
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"So what do you think is the problem and do you have a solution
Haha, I wish - time might sort it, attitudes need to change from all sides - so either a LOT of time or something big that makes race unimportant. "
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So you genuinely believe that vast swathes of the press are running down Sterlings ability because his skin is black!.
I mean seriously. |
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"So what do you think is the problem and do you have a solution
Haha, I wish - time might sort it, attitudes need to change from all sides - so either a LOT of time or something big that makes race unimportant. .
So you genuinely believe that vast swathes of the press are running down Sterlings ability because his skin is black!.
I mean seriously."
It's more likely than in a sky blue shirt he's a decent player.
But when he puts on a white one he's site.
They're they only relavent colours, not his skin. |
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"So what do you think is the problem and do you have a solution
Haha, I wish - time might sort it, attitudes need to change from all sides - so either a LOT of time or something big that makes race unimportant. .
So you genuinely believe that vast swathes of the press are running down Sterlings ability because his skin is black!.
I mean seriously.
It's more likely than in a sky blue shirt he's a decent player.
But when he puts on a white one he's site.
They're they only relavent colours, not his skin."
*shite not site |
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Its racist to say he can't score for England. Why can't you see that!? It's, like incredibly racist!  its also racist if you say its a bit weird to have a tattoo of an assault rifle on your leg when your dad was shot dead. Pretty obvious really.  |
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By *AYENCouple
over a year ago
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"Its racist to say he can't score for England. Why can't you see that!? It's, like incredibly racist! its also racist if you say its a bit weird to have a tattoo of an assault rifle on your leg when your dad was shot dead. Pretty obvious really. "
It's not racist to say he can't score for England, he can't. It's not racist to say he has a weird tatoo either, though that really isn't anybody's concern other than his own.
It's the ferocity of criticism that I see as racist. All criticism should have been directed at the manager, not at a player that was imo trying hard - how do you expect the guy to up his game having received such hostility from the very people who are supposed to be supporting him? |
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I was surprised by his comments when I first heard them. But then i fact checked what he was saying and I agree. There were some stories I hadn't heard of, like apparently it's newsworthy that Sterling went to Primark  what the hell were they reporting that for?
He is shit in an England shirt though. |
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"Its racist to say he can't score for England. Why can't you see that!? It's, like incredibly racist! its also racist if you say its a bit weird to have a tattoo of an assault rifle on your leg when your dad was shot dead. Pretty obvious really.
It's not racist to say he can't score for England, he can't. It's not racist to say he has a weird tatoo either, though that really isn't anybody's concern other than his own.
It's the ferocity of criticism that I see as racist. All criticism should have been directed at the manager, not at a player that was imo trying hard - how do you expect the guy to up his game having received such hostility from the very people who are supposed to be supporting him?"
If the criticism is related to his football ability it's not racist.
If the criticism is prefaced with a pejorative term related to his colour it is.
I agree with BB, what on earth has where he shops got to do with anything? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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Really interesting thoughts all. I personally don't think it is racist in the slightest. Having said that, there will be people that are racist criticising him.
I thought he was rubbish at the WC and way before that too. The stats suggest that too. Sorry to say this but in a City team he looks a great player due to the quality around him. Put him in the England side and he suffers due to a total lack of creative and world class players.
For Wright to say the criticism was racist is ridiculous as many of Sterling's critics, me included wanted him replaced with Rashford. How the hell is that racist.
I too agree that the papers have no right reporting what he does off the field but they will do anything to sell their paper. |
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"I was surprised by his comments when I first heard them. But then i fact checked what he was saying and I agree. There were some stories I hadn't heard of, like apparently it's newsworthy that Sterling went to Primark what the hell were they reporting that for?
He is shit in an England shirt though. "
Agreed. |
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By *AYENCouple
over a year ago
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For Wright to say the criticism was racist is ridiculous as many of Sterling's critics, me included wanted him replaced with Rashford. How the hell is that racist.
I too agree that the papers have no right reporting what he does off the field but they will do anything to sell their paper. "
I think Wrighty's claim of racism was towards the press, not necessarily individuals. |
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For Wright to say the criticism was racist is ridiculous as many of Sterling's critics, me included wanted him replaced with Rashford. How the hell is that racist.
I too agree that the papers have no right reporting what he does off the field but they will do anything to sell their paper.
I think Wrighty's claim of racism was towards the press, not necessarily individuals."
Exactly. At first I was like 'no ian he was just shit at the world cup'. To be fair, that's because they don't play the style that suits him or the same position he plays at City. He's not a bad player, but he shouldn't be starting for England because it's like putting a fish in a tree climbing race.
But then I looked at some of the stories that have been written about him off the field and I can't see where they are coming from at all. I do think they want to paint him to fit a negative stereotype of a young man whose money has gone to his head and I don't think it's fair. |
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"If it's about Raheem Sterling, I think he's absolutely right - we have some very mediocre players that get put on a pedastal - they all happen to be white, and some as good, or better players that get very little attention from the media and or the public, that happen to be black. Sadly, it's no coincedence.
K"
So how do you explain mo saleh being adored by both the media and the public, he’s an Egyptian Muslim. In my opinion Sterling was useless in the World Cup, I don’t rate him at all. Nowt to do with colour. |
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For Wright to say the criticism was racist is ridiculous as many of Sterling's critics, me included wanted him replaced with Rashford. How the hell is that racist.
I too agree that the papers have no right reporting what he does off the field but they will do anything to sell their paper.
I think Wrighty's claim of racism was towards the press, not necessarily individuals.
Exactly. At first I was like 'no ian he was just shit at the world cup'. To be fair, that's because they don't play the style that suits him or the same position he plays at City. He's not a bad player, but he shouldn't be starting for England because it's like putting a fish in a tree climbing race.
But then I looked at some of the stories that have been written about him off the field and I can't see where they are coming from at all. I do think they want to paint him to fit a negative stereotype of a young man whose money has gone to his head and I don't think it's fair. "
Weren't there similar stories about Wayne Rooney when he was young too?
I think the press pick on a youngster and post ridiculous non-newsworthy stories. And they do that whatever their skin colour.
And yes, the news stories came out about Stirling before the WC were ridiculous. |
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"If it's about Raheem Sterling, I think he's absolutely right - we have some very mediocre players that get put on a pedastal - they all happen to be white, and some as good, or better players that get very little attention from the media and or the public, that happen to be black. Sadly, it's no coincedence.
K
So how do you explain mo saleh being adored by both the media and the public, he’s an Egyptian Muslim. In my opinion Sterling was useless in the World Cup, I don’t rate him at all. Nowt to do with colour. "
I'm a Liverpool fan and Raheem was adored during the Rogers almost campaign. He only got stick because of his greed to leave the club. Nothing to do with race. His inconsistent performances are what the media are on his back for in an England shirt anyway. Racism does occur as does homophobia and sexism in all parts of football. It's a microcosm of our society after all. |
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Didn't rooney get dragged through the gutters for not performing for England.
It affected him so bad he went and had hair transplants. He was called everything from fat, lazy, shrek to even abusing his family cause his wife was not a paper thin model with big tits.
He was black too. |
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Give me rashford over sterling .
Sterling does get terrible press though .I think they don't like his swagger and attitude
There is and has always been racists in football .Thankfully Its improved dramatically over the last few decades. |
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Sterling is a great player. He just can’t bloody score for England. But what he does do is terrorise and wear/bring out the defence creating holes when he’s running at them. I would love him at Arsenal.
I don’t give much weight to Wrightys comments on this one. |
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"I was surprised by his comments when I first heard them. But then i fact checked what he was saying and I agree. There were some stories I hadn't heard of, like apparently it's newsworthy that Sterling went to Primark what the hell were they reporting that for?
He is shit in an England shirt though. "
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And Rooney goes to macds! Shock horror |
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For Wright to say the criticism was racist is ridiculous as many of Sterling's critics, me included wanted him replaced with Rashford. How the hell is that racist.
I too agree that the papers have no right reporting what he does off the field but they will do anything to sell their paper.
I think Wrighty's claim of racism was towards the press, not necessarily individuals.
Exactly. At first I was like 'no ian he was just shit at the world cup'. To be fair, that's because they don't play the style that suits him or the same position he plays at City. He's not a bad player, but he shouldn't be starting for England because it's like putting a fish in a tree climbing race.
But then I looked at some of the stories that have been written about him off the field and I can't see where they are coming from at all. I do think they want to paint him to fit a negative stereotype of a young man whose money has gone to his head and I don't think it's fair.
Weren't there similar stories about Wayne Rooney when he was young too?
I think the press pick on a youngster and post ridiculous non-newsworthy stories. And they do that whatever their skin colour.
And yes, the news stories came out about Stirling before the WC were ridiculous."
The difference is that when you sign autographs outside of a brothel then the story writes itself. I think what Ian is picking up on is that with sterling, a lot of journalists project on to him and write between the lines for him. They want to make him out to be like a Kanye west diva just because he's young, black, rich and has a big penis. |
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