Over the past decade we have seen a mainstream society have a shift in the perception of desirable female shapes with curvier and more full figured women becoming more and more visible and appreciated.
Which popular figures have helped turn society around? Do you believe it is here to stay?
I know traditionally speaking in my experience culturally black men have always had an appreciation for "thicker" women. |
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By *ara JTV/TS
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Everyone is getting fatter, basically,
Look at the average body sizes when, say, the NHS was established, and look at the average today.
Our taste buds have been taken prisoner by the voracious marketing of the fast-food and processed food industry, and our lifestyles are becoming sedentary.
Two-thirds of adults in England are overweight, so overweight becomes the "norm". That's up from half just 20 years ago.
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"Everyone is getting fatter, basically,
Look at the average body sizes when, say, the NHS was established, and look at the average today.
Our taste buds have been taken prisoner by the voracious marketing of the fast-food and processed food industry, and our lifestyles are becoming sedentary.
Two-thirds of adults in England are overweight, so overweight becomes the "norm". That's up from half just 20 years ago.
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Quite right. ‘Fuller figures’ is something there is a media pressure on society to accept/normalise/celebrate. It’s much easier for a media to do that than exclude the 2/3rds of people that are fat. These days it’s also ‘offensive’ if you mention someone might be overweight.
I don’t believe that anything other than a small minority actually prefers fuller/curvy/fat bodies to slim/toned/athletic bodies. This thought that advertisers/media/fashion industries should represent the bigger types in society, rather than a perceived unobtainable ideal is ridiculous and just indicates a failure of the population to take responsibility for their own health. |
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There are those that are morbidly obese who's quality of life is affected by their lifestyle choices. I am in no position to judge as I have been in this position myself and found the stigma enabled me to become healthier. That being said I do feel that society should be representative of all people.
In this instance as noted by another poster my discussion is particularly about women for example Beyonce, Rhianna, Kelly Brook, Carol Vorderman etc all have more normal, heathier and in my mind desirable body types than the stick thin pornstars with oversized breast augmentations or androgynous trends seen in previous years. |
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I don’t believe that anything other than a small minority actually prefers fuller/curvy/fat bodies to slim/toned/athletic bodies. This thought that advertisers/media/fashion industries should represent the bigger types in society, rather than a perceived unobtainable ideal is ridiculous and just indicates a failure of the population to take responsibility for their own health. "
Oh yes, none of us curvy types take responsibility for our own health |
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I don’t believe that anything other than a small minority actually prefers fuller/curvy/fat bodies to slim/toned/athletic bodies. This thought that advertisers/media/fashion industries should represent the bigger types in society, rather than a perceived unobtainable ideal is ridiculous and just indicates a failure of the population to take responsibility for their own health.
Oh yes, none of us curvy types take responsibility for our own health "
Look at the post in full and the rest of the posts in the thread. A huge proportion of people are overweight. Being overweight is associated with poorer health. Being overweight is as much of a choice as any of the other choices we make regards our health.
It’s certainly true that it’s the thing when mentioned, that upsets most people though.
For balance, other posts in this thread are already saying that they don’t find slim attractive. It’s a reflection of a generally bigger (dare I say fatter?) population as a whole |
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Oh yes, none of us curvy types take responsibility for our own health "
I’m not sure which of the two describes yourself as the ‘curvy type’, but it was interesting to see that’s not how either of you describe yourself on your profile. |
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I don’t believe that anything other than a small minority actually prefers fuller/curvy/fat bodies to slim/toned/athletic bodies. This thought that advertisers/media/fashion industries should represent the bigger types in society, rather than a perceived unobtainable ideal is ridiculous and just indicates a failure of the population to take responsibility for their own health.
Oh yes, none of us curvy types take responsibility for our own health
Look at the post in full and the rest of the posts in the thread. A huge proportion of people are overweight. Being overweight is associated with poorer health. Being overweight is as much of a choice as any of the other choices we make regards our health.
It’s certainly true that it’s the thing when mentioned, that upsets most people though.
For balance, other posts in this thread are already saying that they don’t find slim attractive. It’s a reflection of a generally bigger (dare I say fatter?) population as a whole"
I have read the thread in full and did not disagree that being overweight is unhealthy and leads to numerous health problems. That does not upset me at all.
Just pointing out that just because someone is curvy doesn't mean they fail to take responsibility for their health. |
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Oh yes, none of us curvy types take responsibility for our own health
I’m not sure which of the two describes yourself as the ‘curvy type’, but it was interesting to see that’s not how either of you describe yourself on your profile."
I describe myself as average because I change between average and curvy. I could of course change it every month depending on my level of curviness( not sure that's a real word) but I can't be bothered and have enough photos on the profile for people to decide for themselves
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Oh yes, none of us curvy types take responsibility for our own health
I’m not sure which of the two describes yourself as the ‘curvy type’, but it was interesting to see that’s not how either of you describe yourself on your profile."
So would you describe the woman I have mentioned as unhealthy? For clarity. |
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"Everyone is getting fatter, basically,
Look at the average body sizes when, say, the NHS was established, and look at the average today.
Our taste buds have been taken prisoner by the voracious marketing of the fast-food and processed food industry, and our lifestyles are becoming sedentary.
Two-thirds of adults in England are overweight, so overweight becomes the "norm". That's up from half just 20 years ago.
Quite right. ‘Fuller figures’ is something there is a media pressure on society to accept/normalise/celebrate. It’s much easier for a media to do that than exclude the 2/3rds of people that are fat. These days it’s also ‘offensive’ if you mention someone might be overweight.
I don’t believe that anything other than a small minority actually prefers fuller/curvy/fat bodies to slim/toned/athletic bodies. This thought that advertisers/media/fashion industries should represent the bigger types in society, rather than a perceived unobtainable ideal is ridiculous and just indicates a failure of the population to take responsibility for their own health. "
So do you think ugly people should save for plastic surgery?
There are many studies supporting the fact that slightly overweight is healthier than slightly under weight.
The bmi used by the NHS is an anachronism from rationing when there was very little good quality high protein food available.
The vast majority of strength, power and speed athletes are clinically obese according to the NHS.
So where does the line get drawn and by who.
And why does a simple question about who likes what body types always get sucked into some boring diatribe about somebodies fa ourite agenda. Can't people take a break sometimes and just answer the bloody question. |
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"Over the past decade we have seen a mainstream society have a shift in the perception of desirable female shapes with curvier and more full figured women becoming more and more visible and appreciated.
Which popular figures have helped turn society around? Do you believe it is here to stay?
I know traditionally speaking in my experience culturally black men have always had an appreciation for "thicker" women."
So in answer to your question I'm going to confuse you
Caucasian women I like gym bunny type physiques. Or very, very tiny
Black women I like very curvy, ideally small waist, bit boobs and nice ass.
Asian women slim, big boobs.
I guess I've just fallen for all the stereotypes lol, but I'm happy with it. |
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Oh yes, none of us curvy types take responsibility for our own health
I’m not sure which of the two describes yourself as the ‘curvy type’, but it was interesting to see that’s not how either of you describe yourself on your profile.
So would you describe the woman I have mentioned as unhealthy? For clarity."
Without giving her a full blood work up I cannot say if Kelly Brooke is unhealthy or not.
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"Trends, body fascism, fashion via media of the day has always existed. Look at paintings from the 17th century, especially Rubens. Big curvy goddesses were hot!
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Was that because there was a link between being overweight and wealth? Like having rotten teeth was also an aspiration. |
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"Over the past decade we have seen a mainstream society have a shift in the perception of desirable female shapes with curvier and more full figured women becoming more and more visible and appreciated.
Which popular figures have helped turn society around? Do you believe it is here to stay?
I know traditionally speaking in my experience culturally black men have always had an appreciation for "thicker" women.
So in answer to your question I'm going to confuse you
Caucasian women I like gym bunny type physiques. Or very, very tiny
Black women I like very curvy, ideally small waist, bit boobs and nice ass.
Asian women slim, big boobs.
I guess I've just fallen for all the stereotypes lol, but I'm happy with it. "
Hahaha!!
You left me more than a little confused.
I like all my women of all shades curvy but I do go through phases though. I also think someone's sexual appetite can make them more attractive |
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""Thicker" women
I don't see a trend, as such. The Ashley Graham effect has opened up the images we are presented but most models still conform to a size 8 and tall aesthetic.
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Ashley Graham, Iskra and other women are more desired in my personal circle by guys from a variety of backgrounds. You do have more women with this body type on the runways but are still in the minority I guess. |
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"Over the past decade we have seen a mainstream society have a shift in the perception of desirable female shapes with curvier and more full figured women becoming more and more visible and appreciated.
Which popular figures have helped turn society around? Do you believe it is here to stay?
I know traditionally speaking in my experience culturally black men have always had an appreciation for "thicker" women.
So in answer to your question I'm going to confuse you
Caucasian women I like gym bunny type physiques. Or very, very tiny
Black women I like very curvy, ideally small waist, bit boobs and nice ass.
Asian women slim, big boobs.
I guess I've just fallen for all the stereotypes lol, but I'm happy with it.
Hahaha!!
You left me more than a little confused.
I like all my women of all shades curvy but I do go through phases though. I also think someone's sexual appetite can make them more attractive "
I did warn you, it took me a while to realise my various types. And then as you point out, meet somebody you click with and that all becomes irrelevant, lol. |
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"Over the past decade we have seen a mainstream society have a shift in the perception of desirable female shapes with curvier and more full figured women becoming more and more visible and appreciated.
Which popular figures have helped turn society around? Do you believe it is here to stay?
I know traditionally speaking in my experience culturally black men have always had an appreciation for "thicker" women.
So in answer to your question I'm going to confuse you
Caucasian women I like gym bunny type physiques. Or very, very tiny
Black women I like very curvy, ideally small waist, bit boobs and nice ass.
Asian women slim, big boobs.
I guess I've just fallen for all the stereotypes lol, but I'm happy with it.
Hahaha!!
You left me more than a little confused.
I like all my women of all shades curvy but I do go through phases though. I also think someone's sexual appetite can make them more attractive
I did warn you, it took me a while to realise my various types. And then as you point out, meet somebody you click with and that all becomes irrelevant, lol. "
The lady half of our partnership tends to like smaller body types strictly with Asian women. When we were in Thailand I couldn't keep her away from the ladies!! |
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