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"I personally am not a smoker, i don't like it, but i believe its peoples choice if they want to, we will meet smokers as long as they don't smoke in our house (which they cant anyway because we are renting atm lol) but WTF is up with these new give up smoking ads with the kids in,,, its plainly emotional blackmail to parents but my question is.... is this kind of emotional blackmail to parents acceptable to you? or do you agree that they shouldn't be putting those kind of ads on tv or the radio? " In answer to the OP, i really wanna try to give up, but the stress factors at the moment dont seem to be helping, but we all know emotional blackmail works... | |||
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"I personally am not a smoker, i don't like it, but i believe its peoples choice if they want to, we will meet smokers as long as they don't smoke in our house (which they cant anyway because we are renting atm lol) but WTF is up with these new give up smoking ads with the kids in,,, its plainly emotional blackmail to parents but my question is.... is this kind of emotional blackmail to parents acceptable to you? or do you agree that they shouldn't be putting those kind of ads on tv or the radio? " I have to admit it makes you think twice though. | |||
"I'm just wondering when they're going to try and ban those new electronic fags!" They'll just tax them if they ever become more popular than traditional fags. | |||
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"In answer to the OP, i really wanna try to give up, but the stress factors at the moment dont seem to be helping, but we all know emotional blackmail works... "Send me some nawty photos of you or I'm gonna kill my cat. | |||
"ALL adverts attempt to connect with you on an emotional level - so I guess these adverts are no different" Even the Go Compare and the Wonga adverts....?!?  | |||
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"once they ban smoking , what they gonna ban next, or indeed what they gonna blame for illnesses " They banning sex lol | |||
"In answer to the OP, i really wanna try to give up, but the stress factors at the moment dont seem to be helping, but we all know emotional blackmail works...
Send me some nawty photos of you or I'm gonna kill my cat."pussy on the brain ya weirdo  | |||
"once they ban smoking , what they gonna ban next, or indeed what they gonna blame for illnesses " I would say spitting is next on the agenda. | |||
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" Even the Go Compare and the Wonga adverts....?!? "yep - disgust and irritation | |||
"some adverts are going a bit far of late dont know if anyone remembers the click advert for the NSPCC about the little girl was being sexually abused? i rememeber sat watching the telling with my daughter one day it was one of the kids channels on cable and that advert came on, i actually coudlnt believe that they would put a advert about child sexual abuse on a kids channel i think they will sink to any levels at the moent in the name of advertising" i understand what your saying but maybe they were trying to reach kids that maybe were too scared to tell anyone? | |||
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"once they ban smoking , what they gonna ban next, or indeed what they gonna blame for illnesses " they will never ban smoking, they dont want you to stop they just need to be seen to care if everyoen stopped smoking the country would collapse financially within 2 years we'd all be working for bugger all to replace the taxes | |||
"In answer to the OP, i really wanna try to give up, but the stress factors at the moment dont seem to be helping, but we all know emotional blackmail works...
Send me some nawty photos of you or I'm gonna kill my cat." bliddy great! | |||
"Why are they not running similar adverts against drinking alcohol?" because alcohol doesnt have a fifty percent chance of killing you. | |||
"some adverts are going a bit far of late dont know if anyone remembers the click advert for the NSPCC about the little girl was being sexually abused? i rememeber sat watching the telling with my daughter one day it was one of the kids channels on cable and that advert came on, i actually coudlnt believe that they would put a advert about child sexual abuse on a kids channel i think they will sink to any levels at the moent in the name of advertisingi understand what your saying but maybe they were trying to reach kids that maybe were too scared to tell anyone?" i suppose thats a possability, but they are also making children who dont need to know about such things awear of it i didnt want to sit and explain to my child that some kids was forced to have sex, and if they are protecting children from it you would have thought they wouldnt want to draw such things to the attention of children too eitehr way i wasnt happy with the situation lol | |||
"some adverts are going a bit far of late dont know if anyone remembers the click advert for the NSPCC about the little girl was being sexually abused? i rememeber sat watching the telling with my daughter one day it was one of the kids channels on cable and that advert came on, i actually coudlnt believe that they would put a advert about child sexual abuse on a kids channel i think they will sink to any levels at the moent in the name of advertisingi understand what your saying but maybe they were trying to reach kids that maybe were too scared to tell anyone? i suppose thats a possability, but they are also making children who dont need to know about such things awear of it i didnt want to sit and explain to my child that some kids was forced to have sex, and if they are protecting children from it you would have thought they wouldnt want to draw such things to the attention of children too eitehr way i wasnt happy with the situation lol" I think all kids should be aware of it...its a double edged sword though i guess  | |||
"Why are they not running similar adverts against drinking alcohol? because alcohol doesnt have a fifty percent chance of killing you. " I know a few people who would argue otherwise, well if they wasn't dead they would | |||
"Why are they not running similar adverts against drinking alcohol? because alcohol doesnt have a fifty percent chance of killing you. " Is it as high as 50%? | |||
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"I love smoking. I really enjoy it and have no intention of giving up. Never seen a single person die of good health. Even the bugger who made jogging so popular keeled over with a heart attack... out jogging. Dick. "When fags are £20 for 10 can I come and watch you had over your cash then? | |||
"I love smoking. I really enjoy it and have no intention of giving up. Never seen a single person die of good health. Even the bugger who made jogging so popular keeled over with a heart attack... out jogging. Dick.
When fags are £20 for 10 can I come and watch you had over your cash then? "Don't smoke cigs, I smoke tobacco and my bro-in-law brings me loads of it back from Aghanistan for a fraction of the price it costs over here. | |||
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"I love smoking. I really enjoy it and have no intention of giving up. Never seen a single person die of good health. Even the bugger who made jogging so popular keeled over with a heart attack... out jogging. Dick.
When fags are £20 for 10 can I come and watch you had over your cash then?
Don't smoke cigs, I smoke tobacco and my bro-in-law brings me loads of it back from Aghanistan for a fraction of the price it costs over here. "Tax evasion for out glorious Concentrative party! Shame on you. | |||
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"I'm just wondering when they're going to try and ban those new electronic fags!" They already banned at airports and on planes  | |||
"I love smoking. I really enjoy it and have no intention of giving up. Never seen a single person die of good health. Even the bugger who made jogging so popular keeled over with a heart attack... out jogging. Dick.
When fags are £20 for 10 can I come and watch you had over your cash then?
Don't smoke cigs, I smoke tobacco and my bro-in-law brings me loads of it back from Aghanistan for a fraction of the price it costs over here.
Tax evasion for out glorious Concentrative party! Shame on you. "Hey, bite me. I'm not really gonna pay £12 for a 50g pouch when I can get ten 50g pouches for £50, am I. | |||
"I'm just wondering when they're going to try and ban those new electronic fags! They already banned at airports and on planes "My boss has banned them from his premises also. | |||
"Why are they not running similar adverts against drinking alcohol? because alcohol doesnt have a fifty percent chance of killing you. Is it as high as 50%?" Apparently. | |||
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"Why are they not running similar adverts against drinking alcohol? because alcohol doesnt have a fifty percent chance of killing you. " As opposed to being alive which has a 100% mortality rate? | |||
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"There are no poor smokers, they have money to burn. If they want to smoke that's fine, that is their choice, but I want a say as to where they smoke as it's harmful, smells and is a hazard, not to mention the mess it makes... I want a ban on them huddling around door ways, I want to see more people fined for dropping their butts (Fag ends). Ok, the coffee has kicked in now
"You can't have it all your own way. If you want smoker's fined for dropping cigarette ends then you have to apply that same equality to car owners who pollute the air at the same ground level as mothers pushing their children down the street in push chairs. But I bet you'll find an excuse to let them off the hook. | |||
"There have always been and will always be people who believe they are more superior to others and will involve themselves in our business under the banner we know what's good for you we lowly people should of course be eternally grateful to these superior beings (obtw I'm not saying that non smokers have rights too of course they do and I for one respect whatever smoking rules are in force my post is a dig at the self centred sanctimonious up their own arses hits that think they have a right to tell me as an adult what I can and can't do and ram their opinions down my throat) xx "ooo I love it when you get all bolshy. Agree with your post 100% though. | |||
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"Most people won't agree, smoking is optional, driving a car for many people is a requirement. I'm sure you are familiar with all the changes going on about pollution from vehicles etc, unleaded, Catalytic converters, more efficient engines so my understanding is that a modern car is not a major polluter. London is banning certain types of vehicles, who don't meet a certain emission levels, as you can see the vehicles are being targeted as well. And society can't do everything at once "The decision to start smoking is optional, I'll concede that point, but once addicted there is nothing optional about smoking at all. It is high time the govt recognised that smokers are addicts to a drug in the same way that other drug abusers are addicted to the substance they take. The difference is that the govt are earning billions of pounds from smoker's addictions and so daren't change the law to reclassify smoking as a bona fide addiction that requires NHS-provided medical help to break. Some smokers can wean themselves off sure, a lot can't though. | |||
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""Hi Dad, I know your watching this program, I just wanted to ask you to stop smoking" Is a bit embarrassing when I'm watching Glee." more embaressing that your watching glee :P | |||
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"its not the issue smoke or not to smoke , its the basic principal of having the choices removed by a goverment who tell you what to do . " OK, where are the government in their ads telling you to stop smoking??? They are inviting people to stop and giving them help when they decide to stop for their own reasons! I certainly can't see any element of compulsion… To say that the Government want everyone to stop smoking is pure smokers drivel! If that were to happen, they would have to announce a tax hike that would cripple most families. As has been said before, cigarettes are optional. Yes it can be difficult to stop, but anyone can if they WANT to. Until that time I think we should go on fleecing them and car drivers (me). Again, it is a choice, but unlike smoking, for some of us there would be no work without a car! But I have to agree that there is a certain amount of pollution from motor vehicles, but as has been pointed out before, that is being addressed. | |||
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"some adverts are going a bit far of late dont know if anyone remembers the click advert for the NSPCC about the little girl was being sexually abused? i rememeber sat watching the telling with my daughter one day it was one of the kids channels on cable and that advert came on, i actually coudlnt believe that they would put a advert about child sexual abuse on a kids channel i think they will sink to any levels at the moent in the name of advertising" I think if one child who is being abused views those ads and know where to get help and maybe even takes that step to getting help, then the ad had done its job. So yes I think it's important that those ads are shown during kids program's. | |||
" Hey, bite me. I'm not really gonna pay £12 for a 50g pouch when I can get ten 50g pouches for £50, am I. "Wow thats expensive ...only £30 in Belgium Coach trip and 2 nights hotel =£80 Saving on 1Kg of baccy = nearly £200 Free long weekend plus save £120 ...Bargin | |||
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"the smoking threads always cheer me up. they remind me,how lucky i am to be a smoker,oh happy days. they remind me,of all those cold,wet,windy nights.when i go out for a smoke,and meet the nicest people. they remind me,of the sanctimonious drivel,non smokers speak,to justify their persecution of smokers. they remind me,of the days when i could have a pint and a smoke,in my local. they remind me,of the days when i had a local. but most of all, they remind me,never ever ever,give up smoking,for fear of becoming one of them. ". What a post - fabs forums post of the year !!! cmon the smokers...... | |||
"Oi saucy giz a fag and make sure it's a mental one please "for you jet,could there be any other kind. | |||
"Oi saucy giz a fag and make sure it's a mental one please
for you jet,could there be any other kind. "Hey Jet won't be happy at you calling him mental | |||
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"the smoking threads always cheer me up. they remind me,how lucky i am to be a smoker,oh happy days. they remind me,of all those cold,wet,windy nights.when i go out for a smoke,and meet the nicest people. they remind me,of the sanctimonious drivel,non smokers speak,to justify their persecution of smokers. they remind me,of the days when i could have a pint and a smoke,in my local. they remind me,of the days when i had a local. but most of all, they remind me,never ever ever,give up smoking,for fear of becoming one of them. "Yeah definately post of the year. A murderer can smoke in his prison cell but we cant have a fag in our local pub. Outrageous | |||
"the smoking threads always cheer me up. they remind me,how lucky i am to be a smoker,oh happy days. they remind me,of all those cold,wet,windy nights.when i go out for a smoke,and meet the nicest people. they remind me,of the sanctimonious drivel,non smokers speak,to justify their persecution of smokers. they remind me,of the days when i could have a pint and a smoke,in my local. they remind me,of the days when i had a local. but most of all, they remind me,never ever ever,give up smoking,for fear of becoming one of them. "As a non smoker I don't feel the need to lecture smokers....It's your life, you have to live with the consequences not me, after all it's your choice. Do I care that you have to stand outside in the rain at the pub?....no to be honest, don't give it a fleeting thought, after all it's your choice. Do I care that you might well be shortening your life expectancy?....no, it's your life, you do what you want with it, I couldn't give a fig one way or the other, after all it's your choice. I applaud your commitment to bolstering the UK tax take, keep it up, Britain is proud of your efforts. | |||
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"Wheres the 'Choice' in standing outside? We were forced out!" Your choice to smoke.....I'm just offering you support and appreciating your efforts in keeping the Tax Pounds rolling in.... If you could up your tobacco intake the government, and the population of the UK would be most appreciative....I thank you. | |||
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"Well the NHS is in a bad shape already, god help if we all suddenly stopped smoking! Your right Jane! we're keeping the country afloat lol. Seriously though, as a non smoker do you feel smokers are treated fairly?" I would have to ask the smokers....if you feel you are being treated unfairly....why? | |||
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"I would have to ask the smokers....if you feel you are being treated unfairly....why? " I've never stayed overnight in hospital in my life so I'd say that I haven't been treated at all. | |||
"Well the NHS is in a bad shape already, god help if we all suddenly stopped smoking! Your right Jane! we're keeping the country afloat lol. Seriously though, as a non smoker do you feel smokers are treated fairly? I would have to ask the smokers....if you feel you are being treated unfairly....why? " Ill answer that Im an adult human being not a dog Unfairness comes in NOT being allowed to partake in my pleasure in a warm comfortable environment as such in a pub for instance All we want is a room now that may be difficult for non smokers ta grasp but why the hell should we freeze to death?? | |||
"Well the NHS is in a bad shape already, god help if we all suddenly stopped smoking! Your right Jane! we're keeping the country afloat lol. Seriously though, as a non smoker do you feel smokers are treated fairly? I would have to ask the smokers....if you feel you are being treated unfairly....why? Ill answer that Im an adult human being not a dog Unfairness comes in NOT being allowed to partake in my pleasure in a warm comfortable environment as such in a pub for instance All we want is a room now that may be difficult for non smokers ta grasp but why the hell should we freeze to death??" The most infuriating part is that prior to the ban in pubs etc non-smokers said they'd use the pubs and bars more if they were smoke free. Well, where the fuck are they then? We've now got empty pubs that are closing and an army of non-smokers sitting at home behind a bolted door sniggering at how they've totally fucked up an industry and pissed off millions (yes, MILLIONS) of people who used to enjoy a pint and a cigar/ette. | |||
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"Yeah the pubs around here are dwindling fast, and those that are still open are just surviving. A pub just isnt a social place anymore. People would rather stay at home in the warm than be forced outside to have a cigarette." And those that are still open have to pay Sky upto £3k/month depending on the rateable value of the business to show football matches which is the obvious draw for pubs in getting punters in drinking. Basically, between Sky and the anti-smoking brigade our pub industry has been decimated. | |||
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"Why on earth are they banning electronic fags at airports...or anywhere? Just what is going on? They don't give off smoke, can't annoy others, don't even damage the 'smoker'. Some people just enjoy banning. It gives them a purpose in life. They're all publicly funded. Sack 'em all." Because of the manpower lost in not being able to tell the difference between an electronic cigarette (which isn't a cigarette at all) and a real one. It would cost money to apprehend someone, take them somewhere secure thus diverting staff from elsewhere, only to find they haven't committed a crime at all. Far easier to elimiate the problem by banning elec. cigs too. | |||
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"I have nothing against smokers or smoking but can only go by my own experience ... I smoked when I was ebyoung, stopped for 20 years and started again when my marriage broke up (yes it was stress) 2 years later I suffered from a heart attack aged 49 and believe me when I say that I stopped when I was on the operating table having a stent inserted to remove a blockage! Doesn't bother me if people smoke but know I won't be lighting up again Oh and I celebrated my 50th birthday yesterday!! " Was your heart attack attributed purely to smoking? | |||
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"Im waiting for the stop eating cream cakes and burgers adverts, and the taxes on trans-fats, smokers are getting more and more victimized, the other day some train station guy came and told me I couldn't smoke in the 100% uncovered outdoor train station car park, ridiculous." Hope you told him to fuck off. | |||
"Im waiting for the stop eating cream cakes and burgers adverts, and the taxes on trans-fats, smokers are getting more and more victimized, the other day some train station guy came and told me I couldn't smoke in the 100% uncovered outdoor train station car park, ridiculous." That's unusual and a tad silly! The only way that someone can ask you to stop smoking is if it is private land. Although, if it was a council car park and they have a ban on all council property... Our warehouse complex had no smoking anywhere within the perimeter except inside the portacabin that was supplied for that purpose. No dangerouse goods or anything like that, just the rules and way before the ban. Union (USDAW) tried to fight it, but gave up when they lost the first part. But they were a weak union! | |||
"Wheres the 'Choice' in standing outside? We were forced out! Your choice to smoke.....I'm just offering you support and appreciating your efforts in keeping the Tax Pounds rolling in.... If you could up your tobacco intake the government, and the population of the UK would be most appreciative....I thank you." no need to thank us jane,it's what we do. | |||
"Wheres the 'Choice' in standing outside? We were forced out! Your choice to smoke.....I'm just offering you support and appreciating your efforts in keeping the Tax Pounds rolling in.... If you could up your tobacco intake the government, and the population of the UK would be most appreciative....I thank you. no need to thank us jane,it's what we do. "in fact most of the UK smoking population buy counterfeit or non tax paid ciggys and baccy.. 
and that costs the taxpayer millions in lost revenue..
The money that goes to Police - to fight the mafias/triads that are mass producing copy or fake fags / handbags / perfumes / razor blades / shoes / dvd - game discs etc etc etc !!!
its officially cheaper NOT to buy tobacco and Entertainment products from your local goverment.. and the cost to the taxpayer will be greater in the longrun !!
dont just thank us smokers.. | |||
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"Why are they not running similar adverts against drinking alcohol? because alcohol doesnt have a fifty percent chance of killing you. " but could you class d*unk drivers as they cause most car accidents leading to death. maybe not as much effecting health as smoking but i would think they would ban alcohol before smoking. banning smoking inside as already lost pubs alot of mney especially in the winter. but iam a smoking and agree on that rule i wouldnt | |||
"Why are they not running similar adverts against drinking alcohol? because alcohol doesnt have a fifty percent chance of killing you. but could you class d*unk drivers as they cause most car accidents leading to death. maybe not as much effecting health as smoking but i would think they would ban alcohol before smoking. banning smoking inside as already lost pubs alot of mney especially in the winter. but iam a smoking and agree on that rule i wouldnt " But they do run anti drinks campaign... Drinkwise, about of units a week you should drink, messages on cans/bottles, high duty (Tax) on them and more... | |||
"Why are they not running similar adverts against drinking alcohol? because alcohol doesnt have a fifty percent chance of killing you. but could you class d*unk drivers as they cause most car accidents leading to death. maybe not as much effecting health as smoking but i would think they would ban alcohol before smoking. banning smoking inside as already lost pubs alot of mney especially in the winter. but iam a smoking and agree on that rule i wouldnt But they do run anti drinks campaign... Drinkwise, about of units a week you should drink, messages on cans/bottles, high duty (Tax) on them and more..." i think both drinking and smoking shouldnt be banned i just think people should think of others when smoking and should never drive when had a drink and should get to know there limits. lol i like doing both and think they would cause more trouble banning them as alot of people will be out of buisness and very angry. | |||
"Why are they not running similar adverts against drinking alcohol? because alcohol doesn't have a fifty percent chance of killing you. but could you class d*unk drivers as they cause most car accidents leading to death. maybe not as much effecting health as smoking but i would think they would ban alcohol before smoking. banning smoking inside as already lost pubs alot of mney especially in the winter. but iam a smoking and agree on that rule i wouldnt But they do run anti drinks campaign... Drinkwise, about of units a week you should drink, messages on cans/bottles, high duty (Tax) on them and more... i think both drinking and smoking shouldnt be banned i just think people should think of others when smoking and should never drive when had a drink and should get to know there limits. lol i like doing both and think they would cause more trouble banning them as alot of people will be out of buisness and very angry. "Do remember they are not banning smoking, only where you can't smoke. if your next to me and you smoke, I have no choice in a queue, a restaurant, in a pub, out doors I can move away and it's diluted by the open air... I don't want smoking totally banned as people should have the choice | |||
"Why are they not running similar adverts against drinking alcohol? because alcohol doesn't have a fifty percent chance of killing you. but could you class d*unk drivers as they cause most car accidents leading to death. maybe not as much effecting health as smoking but i would think they would ban alcohol before smoking. banning smoking inside as already lost pubs alot of mney especially in the winter. but iam a smoking and agree on that rule i wouldnt But they do run anti drinks campaign... Drinkwise, about of units a week you should drink, messages on cans/bottles, high duty (Tax) on them and more... i think both drinking and smoking shouldnt be banned i just think people should think of others when smoking and should never drive when had a drink and should get to know there limits. lol i like doing both and think they would cause more trouble banning them as alot of people will be out of buisness and very angry.
Do remember they are not banning smoking, only where you can't smoke. if your next to me and you smoke, I have no choice in a queue, a restaurant, in a pub, out doors I can move away and it's diluted by the open air...
I don't want smoking totally banned as people should have the choice "i must admit i have never smoked in a resterant as i hate smoke when im eating but yeah they cant ban them but i bet theres folk that will try.x | |||
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".... Do remember they are not banning smoking, only where you can't smoke. if your next to me and you smoke, I have no choice in a queue, a restaurant, in a pub, out doors I can move away and it's diluted by the open air... I don't want smoking totally banned as people should have the choice
i must admit i have never smoked in a restaurant as i hate smoke when im eating but yeah they cant ban them but i bet there's folk that will try.x"Oh yes, and lots of smokers are illiterate as well , look at hospitals, supposed to be no smoking in the grounds, but they do.
Glad you don't smoke when eating, one woman did and I till have a burn mark on my willy, boom boom | |||
"Oh yes, and lots of smokers are illiterate as well , look at hospitals, supposed to be no smoking in the grounds, but they do."I don't see how anyone should be able to legislate how free air should be used, regardless of whether it's surrounded by the perimeter of whatever organisation wishes to make such legislation. It's just a simple patch of Earth that someone has dictated that they have the right to tell others what to do within it. Why don't the GMC strike off any doctor, surgeon or nurse that smokes if it's that preoccupied with it's war on smokers, and while they're at it they can tell the govt that they don't want funds raised from the tax on smokers either. I won't hold my breath. | |||
"Why are they not running similar adverts against drinking alcohol? because alcohol doesnt have a fifty percent chance of killing you. but could you class d*unk drivers as they cause most car accidents leading to death. maybe not as much effecting health as smoking but i would think they would ban alcohol before smoking. banning smoking inside as already lost pubs alot of mney especially in the winter. but iam a smoking and agree on that rule i wouldnt " Can you not see how flawed that argument is? Only a small percentage of drinkers drive for starters... | |||
"Oh yes, and lots of smokers are illiterate as well , look at hospitals, supposed to be no smoking in the grounds, but they do.
I don't see how anyone should be able to legislate how free air should be used, regardless of whether it's surrounded by the perimeter of whatever organisation wishes to make such legislation. It's just a simple patch of Earth that someone has dictated that they have the right to tell others what to do within it.
Why don't the GMC strike off any doctor, surgeon or nurse that smokes if it's that preoccupied with it's war on smokers, and while they're at it they can tell the govt that they don't want funds raised from the tax on smokers either. I won't hold my breath. "Yes that would be rather interesting... Imaging if there was an over weight person giving advice about diet and healthy eating or a smoker giving talks about the evils of smoking and cessation tips... Makes you wonder if it happens | |||
"Why are they not running similar adverts against drinking alcohol? because alcohol doesnt have a fifty percent chance of killing you. but could you class d*unk drivers as they cause most car accidents leading to death. maybe not as much effecting health as smoking but i would think they would ban alcohol before smoking. banning smoking inside as already lost pubs alot of mney especially in the winter. but iam a smoking and agree on that rule i wouldnt Can you not see how flawed that argument is? Only a small percentage of drinkers drive for starters..." i think theres quite a few that drink and drive even if its a couple of pints or a couple of wines. the amount of accidents reported and the driver that has caused the acident is over the limit. i got stopped once going to work last xmas becouse it was very early and roads were empty and they said they was checking i hadnt been out drinking. obviously for them they wasted there time as i dont drink and drive full stop. | |||
