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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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It’s not the masculinity that’s toxic it’s the lack of it. The growing problem in today’s society isn’t that men are to masculine, but aren’t masculine enough. When men deny there masculinity they runaway from responsibilities, creating problems in society.
So why are we trying to feminise young men, this anti male tilt goes from the classroom into the work place. It’s creating passive, tentative men, unhappy women. Women want real men they can look up to, that’s just inate. Passive men don’t defend, protect or provide. Passive men don’t do the things we have always needed men to do for society to thrive.
So why is society trying to make men less toxic, masculine and more like women. These traits that are toxic are also the traits that protect society. Women’s and men’s brains are just wired different, but some want to believe it’s social construct.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Not sure about that but lack of fathers and a lack of good strong male role models is sadly lacking. Before I get slated there are some real good fathers out there but not enough of them about x |
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By *VineMan
over a year ago
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I disagree.
Masculinity is just a set of scripts that get handed to us, they are cultural constructions. And they have been responsible for creating patriarchal societies which generally has not been good for men and especially not good for women. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It’s not feminising men to say that it’s ok to talk about their feelings instead of repressing then because “real men don’t show their feelings” and it’s not feminising men by saying it’s ok to be be less aggressive, drink less, look after their health. Toxic masculinity is everywhere and should be challenged in my view! |
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"It’s not the masculinity that’s toxic it’s the lack of it. The growing problem in today’s society isn’t that men are to masculine, but aren’t masculine enough. When men deny there masculinity they runaway from responsibilities, creating problems in society.
So why are we trying to feminise young men, this anti male tilt goes from the classroom into the work place. It’s creating passive, tentative men, unhappy women. Women want real men they can look up to, that’s just inate. Passive men don’t defend, protect or provide. Passive men don’t do the things we have always needed men to do for society to thrive.
So why is society trying to make men less toxic, masculine and more like women. These traits that are toxic are also the traits that protect society. Women’s and men’s brains are just wired different, but some want to believe it’s social construct.
Discuss ?! "
I'm confused. If masculinity is not a social construct and "masculine traits" are innate in men , how is it possible for non masculine men to exists?
Either "society" can mould men with "non masculine" traits, in which case such traits must be social constructs or it can't, in which all men will be "masculine". |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Society may be trying to make men less toxic, but real men don't give a shit what society says 
So real men are toxic? "
Yup Humans are just animals. In nature, an animal is poisonous for defensive or offensive purposes to survive and thrive. Take away the ability to do either of these things and the species will eventually become extinct. If the definition of what a "real man" is (as in the OP society "trying to make men less toxic, masculine and more like women") "real men" are still very much needed. But this all very much depends on what the definitions of what "real men" and "toxic" are in this case  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Society may be trying to make men less toxic, but real men don't give a shit what society says
So real men are toxic?
Yup Humans are just animals. In nature, an animal is poisonous for defensive or offensive purposes to survive and thrive. Take away the ability to do either of these things and the species will eventually become extinct. If the definition of what a "real man" is (as in the OP society "trying to make men less toxic, masculine and more like women") "real men" are still very much needed. But this all very much depends on what the definitions of what "real men" and "toxic" are in this case "
If ‘real men’ are toxic then I don’t like ‘real men’ |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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Look up the Jessica Eaton blog, Why I don't want women to become equal to men.
Also, see both sides with this article: https://www.theguardian.com/society/transgender
That's as much as I will give to your thinly veiled threads.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Society may be trying to make men less toxic, but real men don't give a shit what society says
So real men are toxic?
Yup Humans are just animals. In nature, an animal is poisonous for defensive or offensive purposes to survive and thrive. Take away the ability to do either of these things and the species will eventually become extinct. If the definition of what a "real man" is (as in the OP society "trying to make men less toxic, masculine and more like women") "real men" are still very much needed. But this all very much depends on what the definitions of what "real men" and "toxic" are in this case
If ‘real men’ are toxic then I don’t like ‘real men’ "
You may not like them, but one day you may need them. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Society may be trying to make men less toxic, but real men don't give a shit what society says
So real men are toxic?
Yup Humans are just animals. In nature, an animal is poisonous for defensive or offensive purposes to survive and thrive. Take away the ability to do either of these things and the species will eventually become extinct. If the definition of what a "real man" is (as in the OP society "trying to make men less toxic, masculine and more like women") "real men" are still very much needed. But this all very much depends on what the definitions of what "real men" and "toxic" are in this case
If ‘real men’ are toxic then I don’t like ‘real men’
You may not like them, but one day you may need them."
Nahhhhhhh. I’m a strong independent woman. I don’t need no man
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Society may be trying to make men less toxic, but real men don't give a shit what society says
So real men are toxic?
Yup Humans are just animals. In nature, an animal is poisonous for defensive or offensive purposes to survive and thrive. Take away the ability to do either of these things and the species will eventually become extinct. If the definition of what a "real man" is (as in the OP society "trying to make men less toxic, masculine and more like women") "real men" are still very much needed. But this all very much depends on what the definitions of what "real men" and "toxic" are in this case
If ‘real men’ are toxic then I don’t like ‘real men’
You may not like them, but one day you may need them.
Nahhhhhhh. I’m a strong independent woman. I don’t need no man
(Total bullshit)"
But, as I say, it really does depend on what is meant by a "real man" |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Look up the Jessica Eaton blog, Why I don't want women to become equal to men.
Also, see both sides with this article: https://www.theguardian.com/society/transgender
That's as much as I will give to your thinly veiled threads.
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Nice little dig there, well done. |
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I sort of agree, but also utterly disagree. I’ve little time for ponces, but equally despise Alpha Males that seem not to have evolved from caveman days!
There’s a happy level of ‘normal’ that men could find without seeing dominance over others
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It’s not the masculinity that’s toxic it’s the lack of it. The growing problem in today’s society isn’t that men are to masculine, but aren’t masculine enough. When men deny there masculinity they runaway from responsibilities, creating problems in society.
So why are we trying to feminise young men, this anti male tilt goes from the classroom into the work place. It’s creating passive, tentative men, unhappy women. Women want real men they can look up to, that’s just inate. Passive men don’t defend, protect or provide. Passive men don’t do the things we have always needed men to do for society to thrive.
So why is society trying to make men less toxic, masculine and more like women. These traits that are toxic are also the traits that protect society. Women’s and men’s brains are just wired different, but some want to believe it’s social construct.
Discuss ?! "
Are you actually serious!!! Fml!!! It’s not about being masculine or feminine it’s about being true to yourself. You’re just following the said stereotypes of what men and women should be!!! Why do you have such a problem with men being in touch with their feminine side? And if so is that because your scared of your own feminine traits. Is it wrong also for women to be masculinised? Every human has both feminine and masculine traits with in them. There is no set rule as to where on the spectrum they sit. So you must think men must be like Adam and women must be like eve. Next you will be telling me that a woman’s place is in the fucking kitchen. Get over your ego and balance your self so that you understand people and their needs more rather than demoralising someone whom doesn’t in your opinion fit the stereotypical. You no opinions are like arseholes right. Everyone has one but it doesn’t mean everyone needs to hear it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I do think some men are having a real crisis since all the me too drama and that they don't know how to act or behave in front of women. Sad times at the moment x |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"Look up the Jessica Eaton blog, Why I don't want women to become equal to men.
Also, see both sides with this article: https://www.theguardian.com/society/transgender
That's as much as I will give to your thinly veiled threads.
Nice little dig there, well done. "
Thank you. It's the least I could do after the big holes you have dug and the clods you have thrown over the last few weeks.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Society may be trying to make men less toxic, but real men don't give a shit what society says
So real men are toxic? "
Possibly, that's why I avoid licking them
I also try to follow the regularly given advice to "keep away from children"
I am what I am, no camp will contain me for long, and in the right mood I can fit into all of them, at least for a while. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Society may be trying to make men less toxic, but real men don't give a shit what society says
So real men are toxic?
Yup Humans are just animals. In nature, an animal is poisonous for defensive or offensive purposes to survive and thrive. Take away the ability to do either of these things and the species will eventually become extinct. If the definition of what a "real man" is (as in the OP society "trying to make men less toxic, masculine and more like women") "real men" are still very much needed. But this all very much depends on what the definitions of what "real men" and "toxic" are in this case
If ‘real men’ are toxic then I don’t like ‘real men’
You may not like them, but one day you may need them.
Nahhhhhhh. I’m a strong independent woman. I don’t need no man
(Total bullshit)
But, as I say, it really does depend on what is meant by a "real man""
What is your definition?
A man is a man to me, I hate this ‘real men’ and ‘real women’ bs. |
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The phrase 'toxic masculinity' is not saying that all masculinity is toxic.
It's referring to elements of masculinity gone too far so that they become toxic, such as the idea that men should pursue women ending up in harassment, or the idea that men should be strong and stoic leading to men bottling up their feelings or only expressing them through anger. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Society may be trying to make men less toxic, but real men don't give a shit what society says
So real men are toxic?
Yup Humans are just animals. In nature, an animal is poisonous for defensive or offensive purposes to survive and thrive. Take away the ability to do either of these things and the species will eventually become extinct. If the definition of what a "real man" is (as in the OP society "trying to make men less toxic, masculine and more like women") "real men" are still very much needed. But this all very much depends on what the definitions of what "real men" and "toxic" are in this case
If ‘real men’ are toxic then I don’t like ‘real men’
You may not like them, but one day you may need them.
Nahhhhhhh. I’m a strong independent woman. I don’t need no man
(Total bullshit)
But, as I say, it really does depend on what is meant by a "real man"
What is your definition?
A man is a man to me, I hate this ‘real men’ and ‘real women’ bs. "
In my definition, a "real man" would take me too long to explain, but here's an example. If you're attacked in the street by some men, they're not real men. The person who comes to help you is the real man, no matter what gender they are. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Society may be trying to make men less toxic, but real men don't give a shit what society says
So real men are toxic?
Yup Humans are just animals. In nature, an animal is poisonous for defensive or offensive purposes to survive and thrive. Take away the ability to do either of these things and the species will eventually become extinct. If the definition of what a "real man" is (as in the OP society "trying to make men less toxic, masculine and more like women") "real men" are still very much needed. But this all very much depends on what the definitions of what "real men" and "toxic" are in this case
If ‘real men’ are toxic then I don’t like ‘real men’
You may not like them, but one day you may need them.
Nahhhhhhh. I’m a strong independent woman. I don’t need no man
(Total bullshit)
But, as I say, it really does depend on what is meant by a "real man"
What is your definition?
A man is a man to me, I hate this ‘real men’ and ‘real women’ bs.
In my definition, a "real man" would take me too long to explain, but here's an example. If you're attacked in the street by some men, they're not real men. The person who comes to help you is the real man, no matter what gender they are."
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Society may be trying to make men less toxic, but real men don't give a shit what society says
So real men are toxic?
Yup Humans are just animals. In nature, an animal is poisonous for defensive or offensive purposes to survive and thrive. Take away the ability to do either of these things and the species will eventually become extinct. If the definition of what a "real man" is (as in the OP society "trying to make men less toxic, masculine and more like women") "real men" are still very much needed. But this all very much depends on what the definitions of what "real men" and "toxic" are in this case
If ‘real men’ are toxic then I don’t like ‘real men’
You may not like them, but one day you may need them.
Nahhhhhhh. I’m a strong independent woman. I don’t need no man
(Total bullshit)
But, as I say, it really does depend on what is meant by a "real man"
What is your definition?
A man is a man to me, I hate this ‘real men’ and ‘real women’ bs. "
Agreed. Utter bollocks. |
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Society may be trying to make men less toxic, but real men don't give a shit what society says
So real men are toxic?
Yup Humans are just animals. In nature, an animal is poisonous for defensive or offensive purposes to survive and thrive. Take away the ability to do either of these things and the species will eventually become extinct. If the definition of what a "real man" is (as in the OP society "trying to make men less toxic, masculine and more like women") "real men" are still very much needed. But this all very much depends on what the definitions of what "real men" and "toxic" are in this case
If ‘real men’ are toxic then I don’t like ‘real men’
You may not like them, but one day you may need them.
Nahhhhhhh. I’m a strong independent woman. I don’t need no man
(Total bullshit)
But, as I say, it really does depend on what is meant by a "real man"
What is your definition?
A man is a man to me, I hate this ‘real men’ and ‘real women’ bs.
In my definition, a "real man" would take me too long to explain, but here's an example. If you're attacked in the street by some men, they're not real men. The person who comes to help you is the real man, no matter what gender they are."
If you're attacked in the street by men, they are actual real men. If a woman comes to your aid, she's an actual real woman.
That's bleeding obvious isn't it? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Society may be trying to make men less toxic, but real men don't give a shit what society says
So real men are toxic?
Yup Humans are just animals. In nature, an animal is poisonous for defensive or offensive purposes to survive and thrive. Take away the ability to do either of these things and the species will eventually become extinct. If the definition of what a "real man" is (as in the OP society "trying to make men less toxic, masculine and more like women") "real men" are still very much needed. But this all very much depends on what the definitions of what "real men" and "toxic" are in this case
If ‘real men’ are toxic then I don’t like ‘real men’
You may not like them, but one day you may need them.
Nahhhhhhh. I’m a strong independent woman. I don’t need no man
(Total bullshit)
But, as I say, it really does depend on what is meant by a "real man"
What is your definition?
A man is a man to me, I hate this ‘real men’ and ‘real women’ bs.
In my definition, a "real man" would take me too long to explain, but here's an example. If you're attacked in the street by some men, they're not real men. The person who comes to help you is the real man, no matter what gender they are.
If you're attacked in the street by men, they are actual real men. If a woman comes to your aid, she's an actual real woman.
That's bleeding obvious isn't it? "
Exactly. I was struggling to respond. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Society may be trying to make men less toxic, but real men don't give a shit what society says
So real men are toxic?
Yup Humans are just animals. In nature, an animal is poisonous for defensive or offensive purposes to survive and thrive. Take away the ability to do either of these things and the species will eventually become extinct. If the definition of what a "real man" is (as in the OP society "trying to make men less toxic, masculine and more like women") "real men" are still very much needed. But this all very much depends on what the definitions of what "real men" and "toxic" are in this case
If ‘real men’ are toxic then I don’t like ‘real men’
You may not like them, but one day you may need them.
Nahhhhhhh. I’m a strong independent woman. I don’t need no man
(Total bullshit)
But, as I say, it really does depend on what is meant by a "real man"
What is your definition?
A man is a man to me, I hate this ‘real men’ and ‘real women’ bs.
In my definition, a "real man" would take me too long to explain, but here's an example. If you're attacked in the street by some men, they're not real men. The person who comes to help you is the real man, no matter what gender they are.
If you're attacked in the street by men, they are actual real men. If a woman comes to your aid, she's an actual real woman.
That's bleeding obvious isn't it?
Exactly. I was struggling to respond. "
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I moisturize, style my hair, dress fashionably and aren't afraid of a dancefloor on a night out.
However! I'm also into extreme sports, the gym, I'm a former farmer and I'm a fighting soldier, I think I balance being masculine and metrosexual quite well  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"It’s not the masculinity that’s toxic it’s the lack of it. The growing problem in today’s society isn’t that men are to masculine, but aren’t masculine enough. When men deny there masculinity they runaway from responsibilities, creating problems in society.
So why are we trying to feminise young men, this anti male tilt goes from the classroom into the work place. It’s creating passive, tentative men, unhappy women. Women want real men they can look up to, that’s just inate. Passive men don’t defend, protect or provide. Passive men don’t do the things we have always needed men to do for society to thrive.
So why is society trying to make men less toxic, masculine and more like women. These traits that are toxic are also the traits that protect society. Women’s and men’s brains are just wired different, but some want to believe it’s social construct.
Discuss ?!
Are you actually serious!!! Fml!!! It’s not about being masculine or feminine it’s about being true to yourself. You’re just following the said stereotypes of what men and women should be!!! Why do you have such a problem with men being in touch with their feminine side? And if so is that because your scared of your own feminine traits. Is it wrong also for women to be masculinised? Every human has both feminine and masculine traits with in them. There is no set rule as to where on the spectrum they sit. So you must think men must be like Adam and women must be like eve. Next you will be telling me that a woman’s place is in the fucking kitchen. Get over your ego and balance your self so that you understand people and their needs more rather than demoralising someone whom doesn’t in your opinion fit the stereotypical. You no opinions are like arseholes right. Everyone has one but it doesn’t mean everyone needs to hear it. "
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By (user no longer on site)
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Society may be trying to make men less toxic, but real men don't give a shit what society says
So real men are toxic?
Yup Humans are just animals. In nature, an animal is poisonous for defensive or offensive purposes to survive and thrive. Take away the ability to do either of these things and the species will eventually become extinct. If the definition of what a "real man" is (as in the OP society "trying to make men less toxic, masculine and more like women") "real men" are still very much needed. But this all very much depends on what the definitions of what "real men" and "toxic" are in this case
If ‘real men’ are toxic then I don’t like ‘real men’
You may not like them, but one day you may need them.
Nahhhhhhh. I’m a strong independent woman. I don’t need no man
(Total bullshit)
But, as I say, it really does depend on what is meant by a "real man"
What is your definition?
A man is a man to me, I hate this ‘real men’ and ‘real women’ bs.
In my definition, a "real man" would take me too long to explain, but here's an example. If you're attacked in the street by some men, they're not real men. The person who comes to help you is the real man, no matter what gender they are.
If you're attacked in the street by men, they are actual real men. If a woman comes to your aid, she's an actual real woman.
That's bleeding obvious isn't it? "
Yes, brilliant synopsis Every word in every language means exactly one thing and one thing only  Every phrase should be taken literally and you shouldn't bother looking for any other alternative definitions. You're not a complicated person are you? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Look up the Jessica Eaton blog, Why I don't want women to become equal to men.
Also, see both sides with this article: https://www.theguardian.com/society/transgender
That's as much as I will give to your thinly veiled threads.
Nice little dig there, well done.
Thank you. It's the least I could do after the big holes you have dug and the clods you have thrown over the last few weeks.
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Oh yeah my thread ‘Lovely lie In OR Lively Love in ?’ didn’t take your fancy then ?  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"For those actually interested in the subject, have a look at the Warwick Rowers and Sport Allies, along with the articles I have already posted.
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Thank you, I shall endeavour to digest them all.
Kind regards X |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Look up the Jessica Eaton blog, Why I don't want women to become equal to men.
Also, see both sides with this article: https://www.theguardian.com/society/transgender
That's as much as I will give to your thinly veiled threads.
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Interesting blog. |
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"Not sure about that but lack of fathers and a lack of good strong male role models is sadly lacking. Before I get slated there are some real good fathers out there but not enough of them about x"
I (Mrs) so agree with you, as the eldest of 5 and the only girl my 4 brothers are all fucked up because of my dad, boys need a male role model. End of. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Aww poor men
Are you goading ?
Nah. That's your specialist subject dear. "
Hardly dear, you just take things waaaaaay to seriously.
Have a lovely evening X |
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"Not sure about that but lack of fathers and a lack of good strong male role models is sadly lacking. Before I get slated there are some real good fathers out there but not enough of them about x
I (Mrs) so agree with you, as the eldest of 5 and the only girl my 4 brothers are all fucked up because of my dad, boys need a male role model. End of."
Boys need a GOOD male role model and a GOOD female role model.
Being male isn't enough. |
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Society may be trying to make men less toxic, but real men don't give a shit what society says "
Yeah ...... real men say, ' I don't give a fuck what society says. I am an island. I don't need you. I don't need society. I don't care. Leave me alone. I want my mum' ....... |
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"Aww poor men
Are you goading ?
Nah. That's your specialist subject dear.
Hardly dear, you just take things waaaaaay to seriously.
Have a lovely evening X"
Do I? Or maybe I'm bored of provocative and belittling posts.
You too |
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"Not sure about that but lack of fathers and a lack of good strong male role models is sadly lacking. Before I get slated there are some real good fathers out there but not enough of them about x
I (Mrs) so agree with you, as the eldest of 5 and the only girl my 4 brothers are all fucked up because of my dad, boys need a male role model. End of.
Boys need a GOOD male role model and a GOOD female role model.
Being male isn't enough."
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Because the feminists are feminising the men lol.
They fucking won't get me !
*saying that with a very feminine voice* "
That is good and yes, with that too lol. |
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By *anky_PankyWoman
over a year ago
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I like a man to be a man..... put the bins out, cuddle me to sleep, fix the car and not want to sit playing fifa all day or watching porn til his eyes hurt.....
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I think society is approaching the extremes in all sections hence the rise in nationalism(pull up the drawbridge) and the rise in communism (the BIG state will fix everything).
historically speaking, the chances are there all going to be very disappointed!.
Personally I think the last 50 years (my life time) has seen great advances and great losses, at times it's one step forward and two steps back, the golden age of technology has been somewhat wasted by humankind and now we're seeing the backlash of state control reasserting itself because the tragedy and beauty of all societies is that they only move as fast as the slowest can be dragged along, a bit like an A road the slow car holds up everybody with only the occasional moment for overtaking, technology has allowed for vast sections of the traffic to now overtake at will and take turnings where there are no roads.
As Sally traffic would say, it's a bit chaotic out there! |
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Society may be trying to make men less toxic, but real men don't give a shit what society says
So real men are toxic?
Yup Humans are just animals. In nature, an animal is poisonous for defensive or offensive purposes to survive and thrive. Take away the ability to do either of these things and the species will eventually become extinct. If the definition of what a "real man" is (as in the OP society "trying to make men less toxic, masculine and more like women") "real men" are still very much needed. But this all very much depends on what the definitions of what "real men" and "toxic" are in this case
If ‘real men’ are toxic then I don’t like ‘real men’
You may not like them, but one day you may need them.
Nahhhhhhh. I’m a strong independent woman. I don’t need no man
(Total bullshit)
But, as I say, it really does depend on what is meant by a "real man"
What is your definition?
A man is a man to me, I hate this ‘real men’ and ‘real women’ bs.
In my definition, a "real man" would take me too long to explain, but here's an example. If you're attacked in the street by some men, they're not real men. The person who comes to help you is the real man, no matter what gender they are.
If you're attacked in the street by men, they are actual real men. If a woman comes to your aid, she's an actual real woman.
That's bleeding obvious isn't it?
Yes, brilliant synopsis Every word in every language means exactly one thing and one thing only Every phrase should be taken literally and you shouldn't bother looking for any other alternative definitions. You're not a complicated person are you? "
I am just a simple philosophical materialist. If someone who is physically a man, magically ceases to be a man when they carry out certain acts, I'd like to know how that magic works.
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"Gillette huh ?! "
It takes the rest of the world 6 months to catch up! Good work!
Or do you work for Gillette’s ad agency? These things take time to work through some ‘right on’ focus groups! Probably started work on this campaign 23 weeks ago! We should be told .. |
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"It’s not the masculinity that’s toxic it’s the lack of it. The growing problem in today’s society isn’t that men are to masculine, but aren’t masculine enough. When men deny there masculinity they runaway from responsibilities, creating problems in society.
So why are we trying to feminise young men, this anti male tilt goes from the classroom into the work place. It’s creating passive, tentative men, unhappy women. Women want real men they can look up to, that’s just inate. Passive men don’t defend, protect or provide. Passive men don’t do the things we have always needed men to do for society to thrive.
So why is society trying to make men less toxic, masculine and more like women. These traits that are toxic are also the traits that protect society. Women’s and men’s brains are just wired different, but some want to believe it’s social construct.
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Interesting point on the topic of "feminising men".
A study was done where women were shown differnt pictures of men and tjey were ranked by masculinity and attractiveness
Then those pictures were shown to women women who were on and off hormonal birth control as well as pregnant women.
The women not on birthcontrol rated the masculine men more attractive, the pregnant women and the women on birthcontrol rated the more feminine men as more attractive.
So as men want sex (especially younger men) they quickly change thier apperance to match trends in womens tastes.
So due to our sexual selective drive wee bow have young men looking more feminine in order to get sex ironically with partners who are (at that time) unable to procreate.
But in the real world outside of the echo chambers of twitter and youtube and U.S. college campuses the world is still pretty much the same as always, i don't think there is any war on masculinity or amy widespread male hatred of women |
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Its just a phrase banded about by left wing activists to show men as agressors and perpetrators. Wonder what they'd say if we walked away due to their bitchy naggy femininity |
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