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By *layfulfox OP   Man  over a year ago

nowhere

When people seek 'professionals', why is this?

Do they think they're better? More discreet? More intelligent?

Just wondering

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple  over a year ago

Basingstoke

Trigger warning: One professional feels that when they sit down and have a chat with another professional then they are more likely to have similar values and be able to actually have a conversation, compared to a person picked at random.

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By *layfulfox OP   Man  over a year ago

nowhere

Is that not insulting to others that aren't professionals??

How are we categorising professionals? By job role? Title? Academics?

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By *teve_it_aloneMan  over a year ago

Dunfermline


"Is that not insulting to others that aren't professionals??

How are we categorising professionals? By job role? Title? Academics?"

Straight from wiki... this seems like a good start at a definition to me:

A professional is a member of a profession or any person who earns their living from a specified professional activity. The term also describes the standards of education and training that prepare members of the profession with the particular knowledge and skills necessary to perform their specific role within that profession. In addition, most professionals are subject to strict codes of conduct, enshrining rigorous ethical and moral obligations.[1] Professional standards of practice and ethics for a particular field are typically agreed upon and maintained through widely recognized professional associations, such as the IEEE.[2] Some definitions of "professional" limit this term to those professions that serve some important aspect of public interest [3] and the general good of society.[4][5]

In some cultures, the term is used as shorthand to describe a particular social stratum of well-educated workers who enjoy considerable work autonomy and who are commonly engaged in creative and intellectually challenging work.[6][7][8][9]

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple  over a year ago

Basingstoke


"Is that not insulting to others that aren't professionals??

"

No, but you can choose to take it that way if you want to. Should I get upset if women say they only want to meet tall guys?


"

How are we categorising professionals? By job role? Title? Academics?"

The proper definition of a professional is someone who belongs to a particular set of professional membership organisations (e.g. teachers, doctors and nurses, engineers). However, since it's 2018, definitions are getting stretched left, right and centre so most people working in an office and earning more than £28k think they are a professional. Ironically a lot of professions don't actually pay that well.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Is that not insulting to others that aren't professionals??

How are we categorising professionals? By job role? Title? Academics?"

It is only a way of finding people who you feel are more likely to be compatible.

Am I insulted by people who put 'nobody above a size 14 please'. Are they calling people my size fat ? No, they are saying what is sexually attractive to them. Their choice.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Damn, I thought this was going to be about Bodie and Doyle!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Damn, I thought this was going to be about Bodie and Doyle! "

It is... The Professionals

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By *layfulfox OP   Man  over a year ago

nowhere

Which is all well and good, however we all know at least one professional with the morals of a street rat and as unethical as they come!

I have trained in fields that I no longer work in so am professional due to training but not due to my current role?

I just don't get it, surely there are untrained people with integrity, morals and values that are better than some professionals

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple  over a year ago

Basingstoke


"Which is all well and good, however we all know at least one professional with the morals of a street rat and as unethical as they come!

I have trained in fields that I no longer work in so am professional due to training but not due to my current role?

I just don't get it, surely there are untrained people with integrity, morals and values that are better than some professionals"

You've just invented a link that was never there. There's no moral qualification to becoming an engineer

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By *olgateMan  over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular

Lewis Collins was my favourite

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By *layfulfox OP   Man  over a year ago

nowhere


"Is that not insulting to others that aren't professionals??

How are we categorising professionals? By job role? Title? Academics?

It is only a way of finding people who you feel are more likely to be compatible.

Am I insulted by people who put 'nobody above a size 14 please'. Are they calling people my size fat ? No, they are saying what is sexually attractive to them. Their choice."

I don't get offended, just something that stuck in my head when reading earlier. However, everyone is different and professionals that trained in professions such as teachers, nursing are surely taught that so by stating they seek fellow professionals is a little narrow minded in my eyes

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By *layfulfox OP   Man  over a year ago

nowhere


"Lewis Collins was my favourite "

Before my time

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I just don't get it, surely there are untrained people with integrity, morals and values that are better than some professionals

I totally get what I mean. I don’t like people that state they are a professional on their profile.

They aren’t any better at sex than anyone else. I have met guys who have a professional job role and they are boring. They had no social skills what so ever lol

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By *olgateMan  over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular


"Lewis Collins was my favourite

Before my time"

Staple of ITV4 daytime telly

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple  over a year ago

Basingstoke


"

I just don't get it, surely there are untrained people with integrity, morals and values that are better than some professionals

I totally get what I mean. I don’t like people that state they are a professional on their profile.

They aren’t any better at sex than anyone else. I have met guys who have a professional job role and they are boring. They had no social skills what so ever lol "

Again, being professional has nothing to do with your morals or ability to fuck well.

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By *layfulfox OP   Man  over a year ago

nowhere


"Which is all well and good, however we all know at least one professional with the morals of a street rat and as unethical as they come!

I have trained in fields that I no longer work in so am professional due to training but not due to my current role?

I just don't get it, surely there are untrained people with integrity, morals and values that are better than some professionals

You've just invented a link that was never there. There's no moral qualification to becoming an engineer "

I've invented a link?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Always seem to think some that say they are professional are implying they are educated to degree level and are looking someone/couple of equivalent.

You read the full profile and see the spelling mistakes etc and then think, they could be full of shit.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Is that not insulting to others that aren't professionals??

No, but you can choose to take it that way if you want to. Should I get upset if women say they only want to meet tall guys?

How are we categorising professionals? By job role? Title? Academics?

The proper definition of a professional is someone who belongs to a particular set of professional membership organisations (e.g. teachers, doctors and nurses, engineers). However, since it's 2018, definitions are getting stretched left, right and centre so most people working in an office and earning more than £28k think they are a professional. Ironically a lot of professions don't actually pay that well. "

Define tall..

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By *layfulfox OP   Man  over a year ago

nowhere


"Always seem to think some that say they are professional are implying they are educated to degree level and are looking someone/couple of equivalent.

You read the full profile and see the spelling mistakes etc and then think, they could be full of shit.

Ha ha yeah that!!!

"

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

It means what you want it to, like swinging...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Lewis Collins was my favourite "

I met him once

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By *layfulfox OP   Man  over a year ago

nowhere

So surely just ask for the values of what you're looking for that could be found in professionals or otherwise

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By *verageguy123Man  over a year ago

Selby

Professional doesn’t mean you’re good at anything, it just means that you’re paid to do it. To me people who are seeking professionals on here just mean employed people only who are looking to meet after working hours rather than when the kids are at school

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By *layfulfox OP   Man  over a year ago

nowhere

A height or size or eye colour is definitive and measurable, the qualities possessed by a professional are surely subjective and can vary from ones perspective of traits.

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By *icketysplitsWoman  over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

It's been a while since this one came up. Just use it as a filter. Double filters if they say genuine professional.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Damn, I thought this was going to be about Bodie and Doyle! "

I just done that roll that the use to fob in the credits with a banana instead of a gun I got a banana pancake now and a hernia

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By *layfulfox OP   Man  over a year ago

nowhere


"Professional doesn’t mean you’re good at anything, it just means that you’re paid to do it. To me people who are seeking professionals on here just mean employed people only who are looking to meet after working hours rather than when the kids are at school "

Fair enough, ha ha I moan at bus and taxi drivers for allegedly being professional drivers that always break the laws of the road

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple  over a year ago

Basingstoke


"So surely just ask for the values of what you're looking for that could be found in professionals or otherwise

"

I'd start with people that don't have a chip on their shoulder and aren't offended when they don't meet part of a persons criteria.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

A professional shagger?

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By *osweet69Couple  over a year ago

portsmouth


"When people seek 'professionals', why is this?

Do they think they're better? More discreet? More intelligent?

Just wondering"

It is simply a case of Birds of a feather flock together.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"A height or size or eye colour is definitive and measurable, the qualities possessed by a professional are surely subjective and can vary from ones perspective of traits.

"

It can define social class. Many people are comfortable with people of a

similar group to themselves. Their are enough people saying they want to meet other professionals, so it must work for them.

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By *teve_it_aloneMan  over a year ago

Dunfermline

Sadly come across one or two profiles on here which have slipped past the mods and turn out to be from “the oldest profession” too!

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By *teve_it_aloneMan  over a year ago

Dunfermline


"Sadly come across one or two profiles on here which have slipped past the mods and turn out to be from “the oldest profession” too! "

“On here” in the site-wide sense, before anyone in this thread takes offence!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Which is all well and good, however we all know at least one professional with the morals of a street rat and as unethical as they come!

I have trained in fields that I no longer work in so am professional due to training but not due to my current role?

I just don't get it, surely there are untrained people with integrity, morals and values that are better than some professionals"

My sister works in the city in the finance world and she would be classed as a professional. I meet many guys that are ‘professionals’ I don’t get why people are so offended by that term. In London, most people that work in the city are ‘professionals’

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By *layfulfox OP   Man  over a year ago

nowhere


"So surely just ask for the values of what you're looking for that could be found in professionals or otherwise

I'd start with people that don't have a chip on their shoulder and aren't offended when they don't meet part of a persons criteria. "

Who is offended?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

This subject keeps popping up.

I've no issue with anyone describing themselves that way. Who cares? If you think they're being rather pompous then move on I guess?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I'm a professional idiot.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Always seem to think some that say they are professional are implying they are educated to degree level and are looking someone/couple of equivalent.

You read the full profile and see the spelling mistakes etc and then think, they could be full of shit.

"

I know a barrister and his spelling is terrible when texting. He’s so lazy and can’t be bothered to type properly.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Professional doesn’t mean you’re good at anything, it just means that you’re paid to do it. To me people who are seeking professionals on here just mean employed people only who are looking to meet after working hours rather than when the kids are at school

Fair enough, ha ha I moan at bus and taxi drivers for allegedly being

professional drivers that always break

the laws of the road"

'Always' break the laws of the road ? That's a sweeping generalisation of a group of people too.

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By *icketysplitsWoman  over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"Which is all well and good, however we all know at least one professional with the morals of a street rat and as unethical as they come!

I have trained in fields that I no longer work in so am professional due to training but not due to my current role?

I just don't get it, surely there are untrained people with integrity, morals and values that are better than some professionals

My sister works in the city in the finance world and she would be classed as a professional. I meet many guys that are ‘professionals’ I don’t get why people are so offended by that term. In London, most people that work in the city are ‘professionals’ "

It's the classic Fab inverse snobbery.

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By *layfulfox OP   Man  over a year ago

nowhere

I'm just seeking clarity and the perspective of others on a subjective statement that I see often

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple  over a year ago

Basingstoke


"Which is all well and good, however we all know at least one professional with the morals of a street rat and as unethical as they come!

I have trained in fields that I no longer work in so am professional due to training but not due to my current role?

I just don't get it, surely there are untrained people with integrity, morals and values that are better than some professionals

My sister works in the city in the finance world and she would be classed as a professional. I meet many guys that are ‘professionals’ I don’t get why people are so offended by that term. In London, most people that work in the city are ‘professionals’

It's the classic Fab inverse snobbery. "

Yup, how dare they have criteria that doesn't include everyone

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Which is all well and good, however we all know at least one professional with the morals of a street rat and as unethical as they come!

I have trained in fields that I no longer work in so am professional due to training but not due to my current role?

I just don't get it, surely there are untrained people with integrity, morals and values that are better than some professionals

My sister works in the city in the finance world and she would be classed as a professional. I meet many guys that are ‘professionals’ I don’t get why people are so offended by that term. In London, most people that work in the city are ‘professionals’

It's the classic Fab inverse snobbery. "

If I was in a profession that carried that term then I would use it. If people get offended then that’s their issue. This topic comes up so much it’s funny.

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex


"When people seek 'professionals', why is this?

Do they think they're better? More discreet? More intelligent?

Just wondering"

Individuals will have different reasons for seeking professionals. Its rarely because they think they're better or for any of the other reasons that bother people so much. In general, like the rest of us, they're trying to seek out people they might be compatible with.

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By *layfulfox OP   Man  over a year ago

nowhere


"Which is all well and good, however we all know at least one professional with the morals of a street rat and as unethical as they come!

I have trained in fields that I no longer work in so am professional due to training but not due to my current role?

I just don't get it, surely there are untrained people with integrity, morals and values that are better than some professionals

My sister works in the city in the finance world and she would be classed as a professional. I meet many guys that are ‘professionals’ I don’t get why people are so offended by that term. In London, most people that work in the city are ‘professionals’

It's the classic Fab inverse snobbery. "

ha ha it is too, badly worded. There are many that break the laws at some point

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple  over a year ago

Basingstoke


"I'm just seeking clarity and the perspective of others on a subjective statement that I see often"

You seem to not grasp the probability angle of it all. It's not that professionals can't get along with non-professionals, they are just more likely to get along with other professionals. Swinging is something most people have very limited time to do and it's not worth arranging meets with people we're less likely to get along with.

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By *hubaysiWoman  over a year ago

Leeds

It means they have a half decent job and want to meet others in a similar situation.

What I am saying is for example a Doctor/Solicitor may have nothing in common with say a labourer.

Just saying

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Always seem to think some that say they are professional are implying they are educated to degree level and are looking someone/couple of equivalent.

You read the full profile and see the spelling mistakes etc and then think, they could be full of shit.

I know a barrister and his spelling is terrible when texting. He’s so lazy and can’t be bothered to type properly. "

Like you say that’s probably just being lazy. In his “profession” I’m sure when drafting legal documents etc his spelling will a lot on.

None of this actually bothers me I think it’s like most social media, some people like to paint a picture of themselves that might be misleading.

Anyway I’m off to update my profile to ensure professional is in there.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It means they have a half decent job and want to meet others in a similar situation.

What I am saying is for example a Doctor/Solicitor may have nothing in common with say a labourer.

Just saying "

That’s nonsense.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It means they have a half decent job and want to meet others in a similar situation.

What I am saying is for example a Doctor/Solicitor may have nothing in common with say a labourer.

Just saying "

What would you say a half decent job is?

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By *layfulfox OP   Man  over a year ago

nowhere


"Which is all well and good, however we all know at least one professional with the morals of a street rat and as unethical as they come!

I have trained in fields that I no longer work in so am professional due to training but not due to my current role?

I just don't get it, surely there are untrained people with integrity, morals and values that are better than some professionals

My sister works in the city in the finance world and she would be classed as a professional. I meet many guys that are ‘professionals’ I don’t get why people are so offended by that term. In London, most people that work in the city are ‘professionals’ "

I merely seek insight into what people see as professional or professional people to be.

There's a difference to taking offence and seeking information surely

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By *layfulfox OP   Man  over a year ago

nowhere


"Always seem to think some that say they are professional are implying they are educated to degree level and are looking someone/couple of equivalent.

You read the full profile and see the spelling mistakes etc and then think, they could be full of shit.

I know a barrister and his spelling is terrible when texting. He’s so lazy and can’t be bothered to type properly.

Like you say that’s probably just being lazy. In his “profession” I’m sure when drafting legal documents etc his spelling will a lot on.

None of this actually bothers me I think it’s like most social media, some people like to paint a picture of themselves that might be misleading.

Anyway I’m off to update my profile to ensure professional is in there.

"

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By *inkyLondonpairCouple  over a year ago

London

There are certain characteristics which are seen as being socially desirable such as being slim, young, educated and an engaging and reasonably paid job. However there's a strong element to British culture that says if you have such a characteristic you don't boast about it.

Hence people who make a point of highlighting their socially desirable characteristics are often resented, here and elsewhere.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Which is all well and good, however we all know at least one professional with the morals of a street rat and as unethical as they come!

I have trained in fields that I no longer work in so am professional due to training but not due to my current role?

I just don't get it, surely there are untrained people with integrity, morals and values that are better than some professionals

My sister works in the city in the finance world and she would be classed as a professional. I meet many guys that are ‘professionals’ I don’t get why people are so offended by that term. In London, most people that work in the city are ‘professionals’

I merely seek insight into what people see as professional or professional people to be.

There's a difference to taking offence and seeking information surely"

I’m not really referring to your thread as much but the usual responses that people come out with on this subject usually.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"There are certain characteristics which are seen as being socially desirable such as being slim, young, educated and an engaging and reasonably paid job. However there's a strong element to British culture that says if you have such a characteristic you don't boast about it.

Hence people who make a point of highlighting their socially desirable characteristics are often resented, here and elsewhere. "

I agree.

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By *layfulfox OP   Man  over a year ago

nowhere


"I'm just seeking clarity and the perspective of others on a subjective statement that I see often

You seem to not grasp the probability angle of it all. It's not that professionals can't get along with non-professionals, they are just more likely to get along with other professionals. Swinging is something most people have very limited time to do and it's not worth arranging meets with people we're less likely to get along with. "

Fair enough, however surely by eliminating a large portion of population just for the sake of a few messages to see how the tone is narrows the opportunity of finding someone that potentially is on your wavelength

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Second thoughts, think I will change my profile to unprofessional and see how that goes down.

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By *layfulfox OP   Man  over a year ago

nowhere


"There are certain characteristics which are seen as being socially desirable such as being slim, young, educated and an engaging and reasonably paid job. However there's a strong element to British culture that says if you have such a characteristic you don't boast about it.

Hence people who make a point of highlighting their socially desirable characteristics are often resented, here and elsewhere. "

Ha ha fair point. Unlike the young part in this, so when they are past a certain age they keep all of the other characteristics and then drop off the desirability charts

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By *layfulfox OP   Man  over a year ago

nowhere


"Second thoughts, think I will change my profile to unprofessional and see how that goes down. "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I always look for intelligent, interesting people with good sense of humour as I need to enjoy someone's company to want to fuck them. I couldn't care less what job someone has, how much money or what car.

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex


"I'm just seeking clarity and the perspective of others on a subjective statement that I see often

You seem to not grasp the probability angle of it all. It's not that professionals can't get along with non-professionals, they are just more likely to get along with other professionals. Swinging is something most people have very limited time to do and it's not worth arranging meets with people we're less likely to get along with.

Fair enough, however surely by eliminating a large portion of population just for the sake of a few messages to see how the tone is narrows the opportunity of finding someone that potentially is on your wavelength"

We nearly all eliminate a large proportion of the population. We have an age range that excludes many people, as do many others. Are you suggesting that we should all give every age a chance?

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By *layfulfox OP   Man  over a year ago

nowhere


"It means they have a half decent job and want to meet others in a similar situation.

What I am saying is for example a Doctor/Solicitor may have nothing in common with say a labourer.

Just saying

What would you say a half decent job is?"

Tarmac the drive but no edging.

Oh wait we're on fab plenty of edging but no tarmac

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

How people choose to describe themselves is just another filter.

You can interpret it as you like

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple  over a year ago

Basingstoke


"I'm just seeking clarity and the perspective of others on a subjective statement that I see often

You seem to not grasp the probability angle of it all. It's not that professionals can't get along with non-professionals, they are just more likely to get along with other professionals. Swinging is something most people have very limited time to do and it's not worth arranging meets with people we're less likely to get along with.

Fair enough, however surely by eliminating a large portion of population just for the sake of a few messages to see how the tone is narrows the opportunity of finding someone that potentially is on your wavelength"

That's true but we don't find it remotely difficult to find people on our wavelength so we're not going to change anything until we do.

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By *layfulfox OP   Man  over a year ago

nowhere


"I'm just seeking clarity and the perspective of others on a subjective statement that I see often

You seem to not grasp the probability angle of it all. It's not that professionals can't get along with non-professionals, they are just more likely to get along with other professionals. Swinging is something most people have very limited time to do and it's not worth arranging meets with people we're less likely to get along with.

Fair enough, however surely by eliminating a large portion of population just for the sake of a few messages to see how the tone is narrows the opportunity of finding someone that potentially is on your wavelength

We nearly all eliminate a large proportion of the population. We have an age range that excludes many people, as do many others. Are you suggesting that we should all give every age a chance?"

Age is measurable and could be there for a reason, these traits people seek may not be and may be found in anyone. Of all ages or profession.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I'm going to change my username to MrMonkey MEng, MSc, CEng, FIMechE see all the professionals flock to my inbox

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By *inkyLondonpairCouple  over a year ago

London


"I'm just seeking clarity and the perspective of others on a subjective statement that I see often

You seem to not grasp the probability angle of it all. It's not that professionals can't get along with non-professionals, they are just more likely to get along with other professionals. Swinging is something most people have very limited time to do and it's not worth arranging meets with people we're less likely to get along with.

Fair enough, however surely by eliminating a large portion of population just for the sake of a few messages to see how the tone is narrows the opportunity of finding someone that potentially is on your wavelength

We nearly all eliminate a large proportion of the population. We have an age range that excludes many people, as do many others. Are you suggesting that we should all give every age a chance?

Age is measurable and could be there for a reason, these traits people seek may not be and may be found in anyone. Of all ages or profession.

"

Eh?

Why is excluding certain ages any less arbitrary than excluding people who do certain jobs?

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple  over a year ago

Basingstoke


"There are certain characteristics which are seen as being socially desirable such as being slim, young, educated and an engaging and reasonably paid job. However there's a strong element to British culture that says if you have such a characteristic you don't boast about it.

Hence people who make a point of highlighting their socially desirable characteristics are often resented, here and elsewhere. "

There's a time and a place for modesty and a time a place to highlight your desirable characteristics. Online profiles where you want to meet attractive people aren't really the best place to under-sell yourself.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple  over a year ago

Basingstoke


"I'm just seeking clarity and the perspective of others on a subjective statement that I see often

You seem to not grasp the probability angle of it all. It's not that professionals can't get along with non-professionals, they are just more likely to get along with other professionals. Swinging is something most people have very limited time to do and it's not worth arranging meets with people we're less likely to get along with.

Fair enough, however surely by eliminating a large portion of population just for the sake of a few messages to see how the tone is narrows the opportunity of finding someone that potentially is on your wavelength

We nearly all eliminate a large proportion of the population. We have an age range that excludes many people, as do many others. Are you suggesting that we should all give every age a chance?

Age is measurable and could be there for a reason, these traits people seek may not be and may be found in anyone. Of all ages or profession.

"

Again, probability.

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By *teve_it_aloneMan  over a year ago

Dunfermline


"How people choose to describe themselves is just another filter.

You can interpret it as you like

"

C’mon now! Less of that, please! We don’t want a breakout of common sense! What would people argue about in the forums?

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By *inkyLondonpairCouple  over a year ago

London


"There are certain characteristics which are seen as being socially desirable such as being slim, young, educated and an engaging and reasonably paid job. However there's a strong element to British culture that says if you have such a characteristic you don't boast about it.

Hence people who make a point of highlighting their socially desirable characteristics are often resented, here and elsewhere.

There's a time and a place for modesty and a time a place to highlight your desirable characteristics. Online profiles where you want to meet attractive people aren't really the best place to under-sell yourself. "

But then in a culture like this, over selling yourself is likely to put people off.

It's a fine balance.

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By *layfulfox OP   Man  over a year ago

nowhere


"I'm just seeking clarity and the perspective of others on a subjective statement that I see often

You seem to not grasp the probability angle of it all. It's not that professionals can't get along with non-professionals, they are just more likely to get along with other professionals. Swinging is something most people have very limited time to do and it's not worth arranging meets with people we're less likely to get along with.

Fair enough, however surely by eliminating a large portion of population just for the sake of a few messages to see how the tone is narrows the opportunity of finding someone that potentially is on your wavelength

We nearly all eliminate a large proportion of the population. We have an age range that excludes many people, as do many others. Are you suggesting that we should all give every age a chance?

Age is measurable and could be there for a reason, these traits people seek may not be and may be found in anyone. Of all ages or profession.

Again, probability. "

.

Having only just viewed your profile, it's very detailed, the preferences you seek are clearly defined and can not really be subjective which is good and o don't believe it says you seek professionals so therefore you open yourself up to those that aren't necessarily professionals.

If you say you like honest and intelligent guys/ladies again it's specific, maybe would take time to determine but they are traits that may be found in some professionals but not all

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By *layfulfox OP   Man  over a year ago

nowhere


"I'm going to change my username to MrMonkey MEng, MSc, CEng, FIMechE see all the professionals flock to my inbox "

Do you Google those

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By *layfulfox OP   Man  over a year ago

nowhere


"I'm just seeking clarity and the perspective of others on a subjective statement that I see often

You seem to not grasp the probability angle of it all. It's not that professionals can't get along with non-professionals, they are just more likely to get along with other professionals. Swinging is something most people have very limited time to do and it's not worth arranging meets with people we're less likely to get along with.

Fair enough, however surely by eliminating a large portion of population just for the sake of a few messages to see how the tone is narrows the opportunity of finding someone that potentially is on your wavelength

We nearly all eliminate a large proportion of the population. We have an age range that excludes many people, as do many others. Are you suggesting that we should all give every age a chance?

Age is measurable and could be there for a reason, these traits people seek may not be and may be found in anyone. Of all ages or profession.

Eh?

Why is excluding certain ages any less arbitrary than excluding people who do certain jobs? "

There may be reasons specific to themselves that they won't budge from, example they may not want to meet anyone younger than their eldest child etc.

I'm not saying it's any more or less right but it's a measurable value

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'm going to change my username to MrMonkey MEng, MSc, CEng, FIMechE see all the professionals flock to my inbox

Do you Google those"

Nope

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple  over a year ago

Basingstoke


"I'm just seeking clarity and the perspective of others on a subjective statement that I see often

You seem to not grasp the probability angle of it all. It's not that professionals can't get along with non-professionals, they are just more likely to get along with other professionals. Swinging is something most people have very limited time to do and it's not worth arranging meets with people we're less likely to get along with.

Fair enough, however surely by eliminating a large portion of population just for the sake of a few messages to see how the tone is narrows the opportunity of finding someone that potentially is on your wavelength

We nearly all eliminate a large proportion of the population. We have an age range that excludes many people, as do many others. Are you suggesting that we should all give every age a chance?

Age is measurable and could be there for a reason, these traits people seek may not be and may be found in anyone. Of all ages or profession.

Again, probability. .

Having only just viewed your profile, it's very detailed, the preferences you seek are clearly defined and can not really be subjective which is good and o don't believe it says you seek professionals so therefore you open yourself up to those that aren't necessarily professionals.

If you say you like honest and intelligent guys/ladies again it's specific, maybe would take time to determine but they are traits that may be found in some professionals but not all"

We are open to meeting non-professionals and we do. The reality is that almost everyone who uses that term has a very broad definition of it anyway. I totally understand why other people put it as a filter though.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'm just seeking clarity and the perspective of others on a subjective statement that I see often

You seem to not grasp the probability angle of it all. It's not that professionals can't get along with non-professionals, they are just more likely to get along with other professionals. Swinging is something most people have very limited time to do and it's not worth arranging meets with people we're less likely to get along with.

Fair enough, however surely by eliminating a large portion of population just for the sake of a few messages to see how the tone is narrows the opportunity of finding someone that potentially is on your wavelength

We nearly all eliminate a large proportion of the population. We have an age range that excludes many people, as do many others. Are you suggesting that we should all give every age a chance?

Age is measurable and could be there for a reason, these traits people seek may not be and may be found in anyone. Of all ages or profession.

Again, probability. .

Having only just viewed your profile, it's very detailed, the preferences you seek are clearly defined and can not really be subjective which is good and o don't believe it says you seek professionals so therefore you open yourself up to those that aren't necessarily professionals.

If you say you like honest and intelligent guys/ladies again it's specific, maybe would take time to determine but they are traits that may be found in some professionals but not all"

The most detailed profile on fab!

Puts my concise profile to shame

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex


"I'm just seeking clarity and the perspective of others on a subjective statement that I see often

You seem to not grasp the probability angle of it all. It's not that professionals can't get along with non-professionals, they are just more likely to get along with other professionals. Swinging is something most people have very limited time to do and it's not worth arranging meets with people we're less likely to get along with.

Fair enough, however surely by eliminating a large portion of population just for the sake of a few messages to see how the tone is narrows the opportunity of finding someone that potentially is on your wavelength

We nearly all eliminate a large proportion of the population. We have an age range that excludes many people, as do many others. Are you suggesting that we should all give every age a chance?

Age is measurable and could be there for a reason, these traits people seek may not be and may be found in anyone. Of all ages or profession.

"

I don't think you can ascribe traits to age just as you can to professionals. I would expect a 50 year old man to be more mature, experienced and worldly (all qualities I look for) than a 20 year old. Asking for a certain age increases the chances of us finding a guy like that. Asking for a professional increases the chances of finding someone who has whatever qualities are ascribed to that.

Asking for what you want on your profile is one of the better ways of finding it as far as I'm concerned.

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By *layfulfox OP   Man  over a year ago

nowhere


"I'm just seeking clarity and the perspective of others on a subjective statement that I see often

You seem to not grasp the probability angle of it all. It's not that professionals can't get along with non-professionals, they are just more likely to get along with other professionals. Swinging is something most people have very limited time to do and it's not worth arranging meets with people we're less likely to get along with.

Fair enough, however surely by eliminating a large portion of population just for the sake of a few messages to see how the tone is narrows the opportunity of finding someone that potentially is on your wavelength

We nearly all eliminate a large proportion of the population. We have an age range that excludes many people, as do many others. Are you suggesting that we should all give every age a chance?

Age is measurable and could be there for a reason, these traits people seek may not be and may be found in anyone. Of all ages or profession.

Again, probability. .

Having only just viewed your profile, it's very detailed, the preferences you seek are clearly defined and can not really be subjective which is good and o don't believe it says you seek professionals so therefore you open yourself up to those that aren't necessarily professionals.

If you say you like honest and intelligent guys/ladies again it's specific, maybe would take time to determine but they are traits that may be found in some professionals but not all

We are open to meeting non-professionals and we do. The reality is that almost everyone who uses that term has a very broad definition of it anyway. I totally understand why other people put it as a filter though."

Ok fair enough

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By *icketysplitsWoman  over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"I'm just seeking clarity and the perspective of others on a subjective statement that I see often

You seem to not grasp the probability angle of it all. It's not that professionals can't get along with non-professionals, they are just more likely to get along with other professionals. Swinging is something most people have very limited time to do and it's not worth arranging meets with people we're less likely to get along with.

Fair enough, however surely by eliminating a large portion of population just for the sake of a few messages to see how the tone is narrows the opportunity of finding someone that potentially is on your wavelength"

So for other categories its a preference... Use it as a filter.

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By *layfulfox OP   Man  over a year ago

nowhere


"I'm just seeking clarity and the perspective of others on a subjective statement that I see often

You seem to not grasp the probability angle of it all. It's not that professionals can't get along with non-professionals, they are just more likely to get along with other professionals. Swinging is something most people have very limited time to do and it's not worth arranging meets with people we're less likely to get along with.

Fair enough, however surely by eliminating a large portion of population just for the sake of a few messages to see how the tone is narrows the opportunity of finding someone that potentially is on your wavelength

We nearly all eliminate a large proportion of the population. We have an age range that excludes many people, as do many others. Are you suggesting that we should all give every age a chance?

Age is measurable and could be there for a reason, these traits people seek may not be and may be found in anyone. Of all ages or profession.

I don't think you can ascribe traits to age just as you can to professionals. I would expect a 50 year old man to be more mature, experienced and worldly (all qualities I look for) than a 20 year old. Asking for a certain age increases the chances of us finding a guy like that. Asking for a professional increases the chances of finding someone who has whatever qualities are ascribed to that.

Asking for what you want on your profile is one of the better ways of finding it as far as I'm concerned. "

I'm not ascribing traits I agree with your example but there may be other reasons why age filters are there

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By *inkyLondonpairCouple  over a year ago

London


"I'm just seeking clarity and the perspective of others on a subjective statement that I see often

You seem to not grasp the probability angle of it all. It's not that professionals can't get along with non-professionals, they are just more likely to get along with other professionals. Swinging is something most people have very limited time to do and it's not worth arranging meets with people we're less likely to get along with.

Fair enough, however surely by eliminating a large portion of population just for the sake of a few messages to see how the tone is narrows the opportunity of finding someone that potentially is on your wavelength

We nearly all eliminate a large proportion of the population. We have an age range that excludes many people, as do many others. Are you suggesting that we should all give every age a chance?

Age is measurable and could be there for a reason, these traits people seek may not be and may be found in anyone. Of all ages or profession.

Eh?

Why is excluding certain ages any less arbitrary than excluding people who do certain jobs?

There may be reasons specific to themselves that they won't budge from, example they may not want to meet anyone younger than their eldest child etc.

I'm not saying it's any more or less right but it's a measurable value"

Does anyone actually say they will Only meet professionals as opposed to saying they are professionals?

Seems a bit pointless anyway as anyone can lie about their "professional" status. No one is going to ask for details in the world of swing...

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

Damn! I meant to start "I think you can"

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By *layfulfox OP   Man  over a year ago

nowhere


"Damn! I meant to start "I think you can""

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex


"I'm just seeking clarity and the perspective of others on a subjective statement that I see often

You seem to not grasp the probability angle of it all. It's not that professionals can't get along with non-professionals, they are just more likely to get along with other professionals. Swinging is something most people have very limited time to do and it's not worth arranging meets with people we're less likely to get along with.

Fair enough, however surely by eliminating a large portion of population just for the sake of a few messages to see how the tone is narrows the opportunity of finding someone that potentially is on your wavelength

We nearly all eliminate a large proportion of the population. We have an age range that excludes many people, as do many others. Are you suggesting that we should all give every age a chance?

Age is measurable and could be there for a reason, these traits people seek may not be and may be found in anyone. Of all ages or profession.

I don't think you can ascribe traits to age just as you can to professionals. I would expect a 50 year old man to be more mature, experienced and worldly (all qualities I look for) than a 20 year old. Asking for a certain age increases the chances of us finding a guy like that. Asking for a professional increases the chances of finding someone who has whatever qualities are ascribed to that.

Asking for what you want on your profile is one of the better ways of finding it as far as I'm concerned.

I'm not ascribing traits I agree with your example but there may be other reasons why age filters are there"

Yep. Just like there are reasons people seek professionals. I'm happy for people to have requirements on their profile. It would be rather hypocritical of me to object since we have requirements on ours.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple  over a year ago

Basingstoke


"I'm just seeking clarity and the perspective of others on a subjective statement that I see often

You seem to not grasp the probability angle of it all. It's not that professionals can't get along with non-professionals, they are just more likely to get along with other professionals. Swinging is something most people have very limited time to do and it's not worth arranging meets with people we're less likely to get along with.

Fair enough, however surely by eliminating a large portion of population just for the sake of a few messages to see how the tone is narrows the opportunity of finding someone that potentially is on your wavelength

We nearly all eliminate a large proportion of the population. We have an age range that excludes many people, as do many others. Are you suggesting that we should all give every age a chance?

Age is measurable and could be there for a reason, these traits people seek may not be and may be found in anyone. Of all ages or profession.

Eh?

Why is excluding certain ages any less arbitrary than excluding people who do certain jobs?

There may be reasons specific to themselves that they won't budge from, example they may not want to meet anyone younger than their eldest child etc.

I'm not saying it's any more or less right but it's a measurable value

Does anyone actually say they will Only meet professionals as opposed to saying they are professionals?

Seems a bit pointless anyway as anyone can lie about their "professional" status. No one is going to ask for details in the world of swing... "

Many profiles say they are "looking for other professionals". It's not pointless since most couples prefer not to lie to get meets and therefore, won't.

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By *inkyLondonpairCouple  over a year ago

London


"I'm just seeking clarity and the perspective of others on a subjective statement that I see often

You seem to not grasp the probability angle of it all. It's not that professionals can't get along with non-professionals, they are just more likely to get along with other professionals. Swinging is something most people have very limited time to do and it's not worth arranging meets with people we're less likely to get along with.

Fair enough, however surely by eliminating a large portion of population just for the sake of a few messages to see how the tone is narrows the opportunity of finding someone that potentially is on your wavelength

We nearly all eliminate a large proportion of the population. We have an age range that excludes many people, as do many others. Are you suggesting that we should all give every age a chance?

Age is measurable and could be there for a reason, these traits people seek may not be and may be found in anyone. Of all ages or profession.

Eh?

Why is excluding certain ages any less arbitrary than excluding people who do certain jobs?

There may be reasons specific to themselves that they won't budge from, example they may not want to meet anyone younger than their eldest child etc.

I'm not saying it's any more or less right but it's a measurable value

Does anyone actually say they will Only meet professionals as opposed to saying they are professionals?

Seems a bit pointless anyway as anyone can lie about their "professional" status. No one is going to ask for details in the world of swing...

Many profiles say they are "looking for other professionals". It's not pointless since most couples prefer not to lie to get meets and therefore, won't. "

If people think they will get a shag from someone they fancy if they are economical with the truth about a term as ambiguous as "professional" they will.

After all, as you yourself say a receptionist could in some circles consider themselves a professional.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple  over a year ago

Basingstoke


"I'm just seeking clarity and the perspective of others on a subjective statement that I see often

You seem to not grasp the probability angle of it all. It's not that professionals can't get along with non-professionals, they are just more likely to get along with other professionals. Swinging is something most people have very limited time to do and it's not worth arranging meets with people we're less likely to get along with.

Fair enough, however surely by eliminating a large portion of population just for the sake of a few messages to see how the tone is narrows the opportunity of finding someone that potentially is on your wavelength

We nearly all eliminate a large proportion of the population. We have an age range that excludes many people, as do many others. Are you suggesting that we should all give every age a chance?

Age is measurable and could be there for a reason, these traits people seek may not be and may be found in anyone. Of all ages or profession.

Eh?

Why is excluding certain ages any less arbitrary than excluding people who do certain jobs?

There may be reasons specific to themselves that they won't budge from, example they may not want to meet anyone younger than their eldest child etc.

I'm not saying it's any more or less right but it's a measurable value

Does anyone actually say they will Only meet professionals as opposed to saying they are professionals?

Seems a bit pointless anyway as anyone can lie about their "professional" status. No one is going to ask for details in the world of swing...

Many profiles say they are "looking for other professionals". It's not pointless since most couples prefer not to lie to get meets and therefore, won't.

If people think they will get a shag from someone they fancy if they are economical with the truth about a term as ambiguous as "professional" they will.

After all, as you yourself say a receptionist could in some circles consider themselves a professional. "

Depends if they struggle to get meets. We don't and the people we swing with don't. There's no crime without motive. I think most people would rather have a social with people on their wavelength.

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By *layfulfox OP   Man  over a year ago

nowhere


"I'm just seeking clarity and the perspective of others on a subjective statement that I see often

You seem to not grasp the probability angle of it all. It's not that professionals can't get along with non-professionals, they are just more likely to get along with other professionals. Swinging is something most people have very limited time to do and it's not worth arranging meets with people we're less likely to get along with.

Fair enough, however surely by eliminating a large portion of population just for the sake of a few messages to see how the tone is narrows the opportunity of finding someone that potentially is on your wavelength

We nearly all eliminate a large proportion of the population. We have an age range that excludes many people, as do many others. Are you suggesting that we should all give every age a chance?

Age is measurable and could be there for a reason, these traits people seek may not be and may be found in anyone. Of all ages or profession.

I don't think you can ascribe traits to age just as you can to professionals. I would expect a 50 year old man to be more mature, experienced and worldly (all qualities I look for) than a 20 year old. Asking for a certain age increases the chances of us finding a guy like that. Asking for a professional increases the chances of finding someone who has whatever qualities are ascribed to that.

Asking for what you want on your profile is one of the better ways of finding it as far as I'm concerned.

I'm not ascribing traits I agree with your example but there may be other reasons why age filters are there

Yep. Just like there are reasons people seek professionals. I'm happy for people to have requirements on their profile. It would be rather hypocritical of me to object since we have requirements on ours."

I'm not objecting to any preferences that anyone has. I just find it more difficult to interpret which traits of professional one seeks.

If you seek a certain trait said to be found in professionals then it could exist in non professionals and certain professionals could lack that trait.

An age is an age you either are or aren't. Yes you could still have traits attributed more to older or younger ages agreed.

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By *layfulfox OP   Man  over a year ago

nowhere


"I'm just seeking clarity and the perspective of others on a subjective statement that I see often

You seem to not grasp the probability angle of it all. It's not that professionals can't get along with non-professionals, they are just more likely to get along with other professionals. Swinging is something most people have very limited time to do and it's not worth arranging meets with people we're less likely to get along with.

Fair enough, however surely by eliminating a large portion of population just for the sake of a few messages to see how the tone is narrows the opportunity of finding someone that potentially is on your wavelength

We nearly all eliminate a large proportion of the population. We have an age range that excludes many people, as do many others. Are you suggesting that we should all give every age a chance?

Age is measurable and could be there for a reason, these traits people seek may not be and may be found in anyone. Of all ages or profession.

Eh?

Why is excluding certain ages any less arbitrary than excluding people who do certain jobs?

There may be reasons specific to themselves that they won't budge from, example they may not want to meet anyone younger than their eldest child etc.

I'm not saying it's any more or less right but it's a measurable value

Does anyone actually say they will Only meet professionals as opposed to saying they are professionals?

Seems a bit pointless anyway as anyone can lie about their "professional" status. No one is going to ask for details in the world of swing...

Many profiles say they are "looking for other professionals". It's not pointless since most couples prefer not to lie to get meets and therefore, won't.

If people think they will get a shag from someone they fancy if they are economical with the truth about a term as ambiguous as "professional" they will.

After all, as you yourself say a receptionist could in some circles consider themselves a professional. "

So we agree it's an ambiguous term, which is more the point to my thread. I just wanted more clarity on the traits desired when asked for professionals

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By *inkyLondonpairCouple  over a year ago

London


"I'm just seeking clarity and the perspective of others on a subjective statement that I see often

You seem to not grasp the probability angle of it all. It's not that professionals can't get along with non-professionals, they are just more likely to get along with other professionals. Swinging is something most people have very limited time to do and it's not worth arranging meets with people we're less likely to get along with.

Fair enough, however surely by eliminating a large portion of population just for the sake of a few messages to see how the tone is narrows the opportunity of finding someone that potentially is on your wavelength

We nearly all eliminate a large proportion of the population. We have an age range that excludes many people, as do many others. Are you suggesting that we should all give every age a chance?

Age is measurable and could be there for a reason, these traits people seek may not be and may be found in anyone. Of all ages or profession.

Eh?

Why is excluding certain ages any less arbitrary than excluding people who do certain jobs?

There may be reasons specific to themselves that they won't budge from, example they may not want to meet anyone younger than their eldest child etc.

I'm not saying it's any more or less right but it's a measurable value

Does anyone actually say they will Only meet professionals as opposed to saying they are professionals?

Seems a bit pointless anyway as anyone can lie about their "professional" status. No one is going to ask for details in the world of swing...

Many profiles say they are "looking for other professionals". It's not pointless since most couples prefer not to lie to get meets and therefore, won't.

If people think they will get a shag from someone they fancy if they are economical with the truth about a term as ambiguous as "professional" they will.

After all, as you yourself say a receptionist could in some circles consider themselves a professional.

Depends if they struggle to get meets. We don't and the people we swing with don't. There's no crime without motive. I think most people would rather have a social with people on their wavelength."

The motive is you fancy someone and they only meet. "professionals". As you say for many people it means nothing more than having a white collar job and not being totally illiterate.

The ironic thing is that our receptionist who says they are a professional and thinks they are messaging a doctor or some such is probably messaging another receptionist...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I can countersign a passport photo.

Who wants to fuck?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'm just seeking clarity and the perspective of others on a subjective statement that I see often

You seem to not grasp the probability angle of it all. It's not that professionals can't get along with non-professionals, they are just more likely to get along with other professionals. Swinging is something most people have very limited time to do and it's not worth arranging meets with people we're less likely to get along with.

Fair enough, however surely by eliminating a large portion of population just for the sake of a few messages to see how the tone is narrows the opportunity of finding someone that potentially is on your wavelength

We nearly all eliminate a large proportion of the population. We have an age range that excludes many people, as do many others. Are you suggesting that we should all give every age a chance?

Age is measurable and could be there for a reason, these traits people seek may not be and may be found in anyone. Of all ages or profession.

Eh?

Why is excluding certain ages any less arbitrary than excluding people who do certain jobs?

There may be reasons specific to themselves that they won't budge from, example they may not want to meet anyone younger than their eldest child etc.

I'm not saying it's any more or less right but it's a measurable value

Does anyone actually say they will Only meet professionals as opposed to saying they are professionals?

Seems a bit pointless anyway as anyone can lie about their "professional" status. No one is going to ask for details in the world of swing...

Many profiles say they are "looking for other professionals". It's not pointless since most couples prefer not to lie to get meets and therefore, won't.

If people think they will get a shag from someone they fancy if they are economical with the truth about a term as ambiguous as "professional" they will.

After all, as you yourself say a receptionist could in some circles consider themselves a professional.

So we agree it's an ambiguous term, which is more the point to my thread. I just wanted more clarity on the traits desired when asked for professionals"

For me it’s usually the intelligence I’m attracted to in

a professional.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Trigger warning: One professional feels that when they sit down and have a chat with another professional then they are more likely to have similar values and be able to actually have a conversation, compared to a person picked at random. "

I’d like to take this bet and dissolve the stereotype...

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By *inkyLondonpairCouple  over a year ago

London


"I'm just seeking clarity and the perspective of others on a subjective statement that I see often

You seem to not grasp the probability angle of it all. It's not that professionals can't get along with non-professionals, they are just more likely to get along with other professionals. Swinging is something most people have very limited time to do and it's not worth arranging meets with people we're less likely to get along with.

Fair enough, however surely by eliminating a large portion of population just for the sake of a few messages to see how the tone is narrows the opportunity of finding someone that potentially is on your wavelength

We nearly all eliminate a large proportion of the population. We have an age range that excludes many people, as do many others. Are you suggesting that we should all give every age a chance?

Age is measurable and could be there for a reason, these traits people seek may not be and may be found in anyone. Of all ages or profession.

Eh?

Why is excluding certain ages any less arbitrary than excluding people who do certain jobs?

There may be reasons specific to themselves that they won't budge from, example they may not want to meet anyone younger than their eldest child etc.

I'm not saying it's any more or less right but it's a measurable value

Does anyone actually say they will Only meet professionals as opposed to saying they are professionals?

Seems a bit pointless anyway as anyone can lie about their "professional" status. No one is going to ask for details in the world of swing...

Many profiles say they are "looking for other professionals". It's not pointless since most couples prefer not to lie to get meets and therefore, won't.

If people think they will get a shag from someone they fancy if they are economical with the truth about a term as ambiguous as "professional" they will.

After all, as you yourself say a receptionist could in some circles consider themselves a professional.

So we agree it's an ambiguous term, which is more the point to my thread. I just wanted more clarity on the traits desired when asked for professionals

For me it’s usually the intelligence I’m attracted to in

a professional. "

I agree.. It probably means nothing more than "no thicko and no people who can't afford to pay their own way".

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By *layfulfox OP   Man  over a year ago

nowhere


"I can countersign a passport photo.

Who wants to fuck?"

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By *inkyLondonpairCouple  over a year ago

London


"I can countersign a passport photo.

Who wants to fuck?"

I can sweat you an affidavit. Beat that....

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple  over a year ago

Basingstoke


"I'm just seeking clarity and the perspective of others on a subjective statement that I see often

You seem to not grasp the probability angle of it all. It's not that professionals can't get along with non-professionals, they are just more likely to get along with other professionals. Swinging is something most people have very limited time to do and it's not worth arranging meets with people we're less likely to get along with.

Fair enough, however surely by eliminating a large portion of population just for the sake of a few messages to see how the tone is narrows the opportunity of finding someone that potentially is on your wavelength

We nearly all eliminate a large proportion of the population. We have an age range that excludes many people, as do many others. Are you suggesting that we should all give every age a chance?

Age is measurable and could be there for a reason, these traits people seek may not be and may be found in anyone. Of all ages or profession.

Eh?

Why is excluding certain ages any less arbitrary than excluding people who do certain jobs?

There may be reasons specific to themselves that they won't budge from, example they may not want to meet anyone younger than their eldest child etc.

I'm not saying it's any more or less right but it's a measurable value

Does anyone actually say they will Only meet professionals as opposed to saying they are professionals?

Seems a bit pointless anyway as anyone can lie about their "professional" status. No one is going to ask for details in the world of swing...

Many profiles say they are "looking for other professionals". It's not pointless since most couples prefer not to lie to get meets and therefore, won't.

If people think they will get a shag from someone they fancy if they are economical with the truth about a term as ambiguous as "professional" they will.

After all, as you yourself say a receptionist could in some circles consider themselves a professional.

So we agree it's an ambiguous term, which is more the point to my thread. I just wanted more clarity on the traits desired when asked for professionals"

It's more about avoiding off-putting traits which include:

- people who are generally unhappy in life because their job makes them miserable

- people who adopt various defence mechanism about why job choice isn't important because they hate their job

- people with lazy beliefs that they hold because they don't engage their brain often

- reverse snobbery

- people with a victim mentality that the world is out to hold them back

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman  over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"When people seek 'professionals', why is this?

Do they think they're better? More discreet? More intelligent?

Just wondering"

None of those things.

More than likely it is used by someone seeking a certain code of public and private behaviour such as not wiping your arsehole on the restaurant table cloth.

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex


"

I'm not objecting to any preferences that anyone has. I just find it more difficult to interpret which traits of professional one seeks.

If you seek a certain trait said to be found in professionals then it could exist in non professionals and certain professionals could lack that trait.

An age is an age you either are or aren't. Yes you could still have traits attributed more to older or younger ages agreed.

"

Soooo, its possible to find certain traits in all age groups but ok to limit the age you'll meet.

Its possible to find certain traits in both professionals and non professionals but *not* ok to limit your meets to just professionals.

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By *layfulfox OP   Man  over a year ago

nowhere


"I'm just seeking clarity and the perspective of others on a subjective statement that I see often

You seem to not grasp the probability angle of it all. It's not that professionals can't get along with non-professionals, they are just more likely to get along with other professionals. Swinging is something most people have very limited time to do and it's not worth arranging meets with people we're less likely to get along with.

Fair enough, however surely by eliminating a large portion of population just for the sake of a few messages to see how the tone is narrows the opportunity of finding someone that potentially is on your wavelength

We nearly all eliminate a large proportion of the population. We have an age range that excludes many people, as do many others. Are you suggesting that we should all give every age a chance?

Age is measurable and could be there for a reason, these traits people seek may not be and may be found in anyone. Of all ages or profession.

Eh?

Why is excluding certain ages any less arbitrary than excluding people who do certain jobs?

There may be reasons specific to themselves that they won't budge from, example they may not want to meet anyone younger than their eldest child etc.

I'm not saying it's any more or less right but it's a measurable value

Does anyone actually say they will Only meet professionals as opposed to saying they are professionals?

Seems a bit pointless anyway as anyone can lie about their "professional" status. No one is going to ask for details in the world of swing...

Many profiles say they are "looking for other professionals". It's not pointless since most couples prefer not to lie to get meets and therefore, won't.

If people think they will get a shag from someone they fancy if they are economical with the truth about a term as ambiguous as "professional" they will.

After all, as you yourself say a receptionist could in some circles consider themselves a professional.

So we agree it's an ambiguous term, which is more the point to my thread. I just wanted more clarity on the traits desired when asked for professionals

For me it’s usually the intelligence I’m attracted to in

a professional. "

Which is a trait that non professionals could also have surely

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By *inkyLondonpairCouple  over a year ago

London


"I'm just seeking clarity and the perspective of others on a subjective statement that I see often

You seem to not grasp the probability angle of it all. It's not that professionals can't get along with non-professionals, they are just more likely to get along with other professionals. Swinging is something most people have very limited time to do and it's not worth arranging meets with people we're less likely to get along with.

Fair enough, however surely by eliminating a large portion of population just for the sake of a few messages to see how the tone is narrows the opportunity of finding someone that potentially is on your wavelength

We nearly all eliminate a large proportion of the population. We have an age range that excludes many people, as do many others. Are you suggesting that we should all give every age a chance?

Age is measurable and could be there for a reason, these traits people seek may not be and may be found in anyone. Of all ages or profession.

Eh?

Why is excluding certain ages any less arbitrary than excluding people who do certain jobs?

There may be reasons specific to themselves that they won't budge from, example they may not want to meet anyone younger than their eldest child etc.

I'm not saying it's any more or less right but it's a measurable value

Does anyone actually say they will Only meet professionals as opposed to saying they are professionals?

Seems a bit pointless anyway as anyone can lie about their "professional" status. No one is going to ask for details in the world of swing...

Many profiles say they are "looking for other professionals". It's not pointless since most couples prefer not to lie to get meets and therefore, won't.

If people think they will get a shag from someone they fancy if they are economical with the truth about a term as ambiguous as "professional" they will.

After all, as you yourself say a receptionist could in some circles consider themselves a professional.

So we agree it's an ambiguous term, which is more the point to my thread. I just wanted more clarity on the traits desired when asked for professionals

For me it’s usually the intelligence I’m attracted to in

a professional.

Which is a trait that non professionals could also have surely"

Yes. It's a code. Sounds better than. "no thickos".

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman  over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"Damn, I thought this was going to be about Bodie and Doyle! "

Who was the curly headed one ? I fancied him. The other was a right idiot.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"When people seek 'professionals', why is this?

Do they think they're better? More discreet? More intelligent?

Just wondering

None of those things.

More than likely it is used by someone seeking a certain code of public and private behaviour such as not wiping your arsehole on the restaurant table cloth.

"

I nearly wet myself. That made me laugh.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple  over a year ago

Basingstoke


"Trigger warning: One professional feels that when they sit down and have a chat with another professional then they are more likely to have similar values and be able to actually have a conversation, compared to a person picked at random.

I’d like to take this bet and dissolve the stereotype... "

According to your profile, you are pretty dedicated to working hard. Whether or not your job is professional, that would probably put you on our wavelength. I just don't want to hear phrases that grate on my ears like "nobody ever sat on their deathbed wishing they'd spent more time at the office".

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Damn, I thought this was going to be about Bodie and Doyle!

Who was the curly headed one ? I fancied him. The other was a right idiot."

You need a profile pic hottie

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By *layfulfox OP   Man  over a year ago

nowhere


"

I'm not objecting to any preferences that anyone has. I just find it more difficult to interpret which traits of professional one seeks.

If you seek a certain trait said to be found in professionals then it could exist in non professionals and certain professionals could lack that trait.

An age is an age you either are or aren't. Yes you could still have traits attributed more to older or younger ages agreed.

Soooo, its possible to find certain traits in all age groups but ok to limit the age you'll meet.

Its possible to find certain traits in both professionals and non professionals but *not* ok to limit your meets to just professionals."

The reason may not be due to the traits shown in an age but an ethical or moral feeling within themselves as stated earlier regarding ages younger than their children or similar.

Has nothing to do with the traits but the physicality of age as purely a number

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"When people seek 'professionals', why is this?

Do they think they're better? More discreet? More intelligent?

Just wondering

None of those things.

More than likely it is used by someone seeking a certain code of public and private behaviour such as not wiping your arsehole on the restaurant table cloth.

"

Pffft... what else should I use while I eat and take a dump?

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex


"When people seek 'professionals', why is this?

Do they think they're better? More discreet? More intelligent?

Just wondering

None of those things.

More than likely it is used by someone seeking a certain code of public and private behaviour such as not wiping your arsehole on the restaurant table cloth.

"

Oh god is that something we're not doing now? There's a couple of places we won't be going back to then.

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By *layfulfox OP   Man  over a year ago

nowhere


"I'm just seeking clarity and the perspective of others on a subjective statement that I see often

You seem to not grasp the probability angle of it all. It's not that professionals can't get along with non-professionals, they are just more likely to get along with other professionals. Swinging is something most people have very limited time to do and it's not worth arranging meets with people we're less likely to get along with.

Fair enough, however surely by eliminating a large portion of population just for the sake of a few messages to see how the tone is narrows the opportunity of finding someone that potentially is on your wavelength

We nearly all eliminate a large proportion of the population. We have an age range that excludes many people, as do many others. Are you suggesting that we should all give every age a chance?

Age is measurable and could be there for a reason, these traits people seek may not be and may be found in anyone. Of all ages or profession.

Eh?

Why is excluding certain ages any less arbitrary than excluding people who do certain jobs?

There may be reasons specific to themselves that they won't budge from, example they may not want to meet anyone younger than their eldest child etc.

I'm not saying it's any more or less right but it's a measurable value

Does anyone actually say they will Only meet professionals as opposed to saying they are professionals?

Seems a bit pointless anyway as anyone can lie about their "professional" status. No one is going to ask for details in the world of swing...

Many profiles say they are "looking for other professionals". It's not pointless since most couples prefer not to lie to get meets and therefore, won't.

If people think they will get a shag from someone they fancy if they are economical with the truth about a term as ambiguous as "professional" they will.

After all, as you yourself say a receptionist could in some circles consider themselves a professional.

So we agree it's an ambiguous term, which is more the point to my thread. I just wanted more clarity on the traits desired when asked for professionals

For me it’s usually the intelligence I’m attracted to in

a professional.

Which is a trait that non professionals could also have surely

Yes. It's a code. Sounds better than. "no thickos". "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'm going to change my username to MrMonkey MEng, MSc, CEng, FIMechE see all the professionals flock to my inbox "

Love Engineers - often have played with them - they are usually very good with their hands

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"When people seek 'professionals', why is this?

Do they think they're better? More discreet? More intelligent?

Just wondering

None of those things.

More than likely it is used by someone seeking a certain code of public and private behaviour such as not wiping your arsehole on the restaurant table cloth.

I nearly wet myself. That made me laugh. "

This thread has made me laugh

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple  over a year ago

Basingstoke


"When people seek 'professionals', why is this?

Do they think they're better? More discreet? More intelligent?

Just wondering

None of those things.

More than likely it is used by someone seeking a certain code of public and private behaviour such as not wiping your arsehole on the restaurant table cloth.

Oh god is that something we're not doing now? There's a couple of places we won't be going back to then. "

If you read the 'worst meets' threads then you realise a lot of people are not wiping their ass properly at all. One story about a guy who removed his boxer shorts and sat on the white duvet still haunts me.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'm just seeking clarity and the perspective of others on a subjective statement that I see often

You seem to not grasp the probability angle of it all. It's not that professionals can't get along with non-professionals, they are just more likely to get along with other professionals. Swinging is something most people have very limited time to do and it's not worth arranging meets with people we're less likely to get along with.

Fair enough, however surely by eliminating a large portion of population just for the sake of a few messages to see how the tone is narrows the opportunity of finding someone that potentially is on your wavelength

We nearly all eliminate a large proportion of the population. We have an age range that excludes many people, as do many others. Are you suggesting that we should all give every age a chance?

Age is measurable and could be there for a reason, these traits people seek may not be and may be found in anyone. Of all ages or profession.

Eh?

Why is excluding certain ages any less arbitrary than excluding people who do certain jobs?

There may be reasons specific to themselves that they won't budge from, example they may not want to meet anyone younger than their eldest child etc.

I'm not saying it's any more or less right but it's a measurable value

Does anyone actually say they will Only meet professionals as opposed to saying they are professionals?

Seems a bit pointless anyway as anyone can lie about their "professional" status. No one is going to ask for details in the world of swing...

Many profiles say they are "looking for other professionals". It's not pointless since most couples prefer not to lie to get meets and therefore, won't.

If people think they will get a shag from someone they fancy if they are economical with the truth about a term as ambiguous as "professional" they will.

After all, as you yourself say a receptionist could in some circles consider themselves a professional.

So we agree it's an ambiguous term, which is more the point to my thread. I just wanted more clarity on the traits desired when asked for professionals

For me it’s usually the intelligence I’m attracted to in

a professional.

Which is a trait that non professionals could also have surely"

Very true but it’s more guaranteed in a professional. I date professional and non professional guys. I prefer creative types as I like deep thinking guys but living in London i tend to meet more ‘city’ types.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"When people seek 'professionals', why is this?

Do they think they're better? More discreet? More intelligent?

Just wondering

None of those things.

More than likely it is used by someone seeking a certain code of public and private behaviour such as not wiping your arsehole on the restaurant table cloth.

Oh god is that something we're not doing now? There's a couple of places we won't be going back to then.

If you read the 'worst meets' threads then you realise a lot of people are not wiping their ass properly at all. One story about a guy who removed his boxer shorts and sat on the white duvet still haunts me. "

Oh no, that will haunt me also.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan  over a year ago

salisbury


"When people seek 'professionals', why is this?

Do they think they're better? More discreet? More intelligent?

Just wondering

None of those things.

More than likely it is used by someone seeking a certain code of public and private behaviour such as not wiping your arsehole on the restaurant table cloth.

Pffft... what else should I use while I eat and take a dump?"

Tortilla wraps?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Damn, I thought this was going to be about Bodie and Doyle!

Who was the curly headed one ? I fancied him. The other was a right idiot."

But he's very fanciable in Judge John Deed

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"When people seek 'professionals', why is this?

Do they think they're better? More discreet? More intelligent?

Just wondering

None of those things.

More than likely it is used by someone seeking a certain code of public and private behaviour such as not wiping your arsehole on the restaurant table cloth.

Pffft... what else should I use while I eat and take a dump?"

That’s what your napkin is for. Arse to mouth.

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex


"When people seek 'professionals', why is this?

Do they think they're better? More discreet? More intelligent?

Just wondering

None of those things.

More than likely it is used by someone seeking a certain code of public and private behaviour such as not wiping your arsehole on the restaurant table cloth.

Oh god is that something we're not doing now? There's a couple of places we won't be going back to then.

If you read the 'worst meets' threads then you realise a lot of people are not wiping their ass properly at all. One story about a guy who removed his boxer shorts and sat on the white duvet still haunts me. "

Thanks for that, its going to haunt me now. I'm not great with poo, I'd probably have added vomit to the problem

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Trigger warning: One professional feels that when they sit down and have a chat with another professional then they are more likely to have similar values and be able to actually have a conversation, compared to a person picked at random. "

Even if they are professional at totally different things?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

If you read the 'worst meets' threads then you realise a lot of people are not wiping their ass properly at all. One story about a guy who removed his boxer shorts and sat on the white duvet still haunts me.

Oh no, that will haunt me also. "

Jesus

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By *layfulfox OP   Man  over a year ago

nowhere


"I'm just seeking clarity and the perspective of others on a subjective statement that I see often

You seem to not grasp the probability angle of it all. It's not that professionals can't get along with non-professionals, they are just more likely to get along with other professionals. Swinging is something most people have very limited time to do and it's not worth arranging meets with people we're less likely to get along with.

Fair enough, however surely by eliminating a large portion of population just for the sake of a few messages to see how the tone is narrows the opportunity of finding someone that potentially is on your wavelength

We nearly all eliminate a large proportion of the population. We have an age range that excludes many people, as do many others. Are you suggesting that we should all give every age a chance?

Age is measurable and could be there for a reason, these traits people seek may not be and may be found in anyone. Of all ages or profession.

Eh?

Why is excluding certain ages any less arbitrary than excluding people who do certain jobs?

There may be reasons specific to themselves that they won't budge from, example they may not want to meet anyone younger than their eldest child etc.

I'm not saying it's any more or less right but it's a measurable value

Does anyone actually say they will Only meet professionals as opposed to saying they are professionals?

Seems a bit pointless anyway as anyone can lie about their "professional" status. No one is going to ask for details in the world of swing...

Many profiles say they are "looking for other professionals". It's not pointless since most couples prefer not to lie to get meets and therefore, won't.

If people think they will get a shag from someone they fancy if they are economical with the truth about a term as ambiguous as "professional" they will.

After all, as you yourself say a receptionist could in some circles consider themselves a professional.

So we agree it's an ambiguous term, which is more the point to my thread. I just wanted more clarity on the traits desired when asked for professionals

It's more about avoiding off-putting traits which include:

- people who are generally unhappy in life because their job makes them miserable

- people who adopt various defence mechanism about why job choice isn't important because they hate their job

- people with lazy beliefs that they hold because they don't engage their brain often

- reverse snobbery

- people with a victim mentality that the world is out to hold them back "

Surely professionals can also show traits in one or more of the above too

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By *inkyLondonpairCouple  over a year ago

London


"When people seek 'professionals', why is this?

Do they think they're better? More discreet? More intelligent?

Just wondering

None of those things.

More than likely it is used by someone seeking a certain code of public and private behaviour such as not wiping your arsehole on the restaurant table cloth.

Pffft... what else should I use while I eat and take a dump?

That’s what your napkin is for. Arse to mouth. "

We've all been there with. "accidents" during anal...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"When people seek 'professionals', why is this?

Do they think they're better? More discreet? More intelligent?

Just wondering

None of those things.

More than likely it is used by someone seeking a certain code of public and private behaviour such as not wiping your arsehole on the restaurant table cloth.

Oh god is that something we're not doing now? There's a couple of places we won't be going back to then.

If you read the 'worst meets' threads then you realise a lot of people are not wiping their ass properly at all. One story about a guy who removed his boxer shorts and sat on the white duvet still haunts me.

Thanks for that, its going to haunt me now. I'm not great with poo, I'd probably have added vomit to the problem "

I won’t tell the story of when I first used a strap on then. That was an experience.

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By *layfulfox OP   Man  over a year ago

nowhere


"Trigger warning: One professional feels that when they sit down and have a chat with another professional then they are more likely to have similar values and be able to actually have a conversation, compared to a person picked at random.

Even if they are professional at totally different things?"

This is what I'm looking to decipher.

We have agreed that it is a broad term so surely the characteristics aren't consistent amongst all professionals

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple  over a year ago

Basingstoke


"Trigger warning: One professional feels that when they sit down and have a chat with another professional then they are more likely to have similar values and be able to actually have a conversation, compared to a person picked at random.

Even if they are professional at totally different things?"

Its correlation not causation. If you believe in a general, if not perfect, meritocracy then people achieve in their careers by sacrificing things in the short term, for the long term. People that are highly impulsive and have no ability to delay gratification tend not to get on in life. You're more likely to get along with people who have those same fundamental values as you.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple  over a year ago

Basingstoke


"I'm just seeking clarity and the perspective of others on a subjective statement that I see often

You seem to not grasp the probability angle of it all. It's not that professionals can't get along with non-professionals, they are just more likely to get along with other professionals. Swinging is something most people have very limited time to do and it's not worth arranging meets with people we're less likely to get along with.

Fair enough, however surely by eliminating a large portion of population just for the sake of a few messages to see how the tone is narrows the opportunity of finding someone that potentially is on your wavelength

We nearly all eliminate a large proportion of the population. We have an age range that excludes many people, as do many others. Are you suggesting that we should all give every age a chance?

Age is measurable and could be there for a reason, these traits people seek may not be and may be found in anyone. Of all ages or profession.

Eh?

Why is excluding certain ages any less arbitrary than excluding people who do certain jobs?

There may be reasons specific to themselves that they won't budge from, example they may not want to meet anyone younger than their eldest child etc.

I'm not saying it's any more or less right but it's a measurable value

Does anyone actually say they will Only meet professionals as opposed to saying they are professionals?

Seems a bit pointless anyway as anyone can lie about their "professional" status. No one is going to ask for details in the world of swing...

Many profiles say they are "looking for other professionals". It's not pointless since most couples prefer not to lie to get meets and therefore, won't.

If people think they will get a shag from someone they fancy if they are economical with the truth about a term as ambiguous as "professional" they will.

After all, as you yourself say a receptionist could in some circles consider themselves a professional.

So we agree it's an ambiguous term, which is more the point to my thread. I just wanted more clarity on the traits desired when asked for professionals

It's more about avoiding off-putting traits which include:

- people who are generally unhappy in life because their job makes them miserable

- people who adopt various defence mechanism about why job choice isn't important because they hate their job

- people with lazy beliefs that they hold because they don't engage their brain often

- reverse snobbery

- people with a victim mentality that the world is out to hold them back

Surely professionals can also show traits in one or more of the above too"

Don't make me say probability again

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By *layfulfox OP   Man  over a year ago

nowhere


"When people seek 'professionals', why is this?

Do they think they're better? More discreet? More intelligent?

Just wondering

None of those things.

More than likely it is used by someone seeking a certain code of public and private behaviour such as not wiping your arsehole on the restaurant table cloth.

I nearly wet myself. That made me laugh.

This thread has made me laugh "

Me too!!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"When people seek 'professionals', why is this?

Do they think they're better? More discreet? More intelligent?

Just wondering

None of those things.

More than likely it is used by someone seeking a certain code of public and private behaviour such as not wiping your arsehole on the restaurant table cloth.

I nearly wet myself. That made me laugh.

This thread has made me laugh

Me too!!!"

I take it you’re not a professional OP?

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By *inkyLondonpairCouple  over a year ago

London

We put "professional" in our profile and I am now wondering why. We haven't tended to meet "professional" people and our criteria tends to be premised on an initial message and profile that doesn't make you sound a complete arse.

We mainly meet single men and we're not looking to be best buddies with people we meet. Hence as long as you aren't an idiot what job you do isn't that relevant..

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By *layfulfox OP   Man  over a year ago

nowhere


"When people seek 'professionals', why is this?

Do they think they're better? More discreet? More intelligent?

Just wondering

None of those things.

More than likely it is used by someone seeking a certain code of public and private behaviour such as not wiping your arsehole on the restaurant table cloth.

I nearly wet myself. That made me laugh.

This thread has made me laugh

Me too!!!

I take it you’re not a professional OP? "

I'm not currently in a professional role, I'm degree educated and in a field I'm unfamiliar with, gained access to academic courses within my field to improve my understanding so again depends on your definition.

I don't have a profession no, however I seek informative learning to deepen my understanding of my environment and the wider aspects so do i consider myself to show professional traits then yes I do.

I'm open to others opinion and learning through that, I in no way think that my way of looking at life or a situation or an object is the only way. Sometimes it helps to see things from other perspectives which is why I opened the thread

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"We put "professional" in our profile and I am now wondering why. We haven't tended to meet "professional" people and our criteria tends to be premised on an initial message and profile that doesn't make you sound a complete arse.

We mainly meet single men and we're not looking to be best buddies with people we meet. Hence as long as you aren't an idiot what job you do isn't that relevant.. "

Unprofessional is the new professional

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I always assume it means someone intelligent to be honest, and someone likely to be discreet. But there’s no guarantee.

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By * and M lookingCouple  over a year ago

Worcester

Thought it was a thread about Bodie and Doyle

Grrrrh

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By *layfulfox OP   Man  over a year ago

nowhere


"I'm just seeking clarity and the perspective of others on a subjective statement that I see often

You seem to not grasp the probability angle of it all. It's not that professionals can't get along with non-professionals, they are just more likely to get along with other professionals. Swinging is something most people have very limited time to do and it's not worth arranging meets with people we're less likely to get along with.

Fair enough, however surely by eliminating a large portion of population just for the sake of a few messages to see how the tone is narrows the opportunity of finding someone that potentially is on your wavelength

We nearly all eliminate a large proportion of the population. We have an age range that excludes many people, as do many others. Are you suggesting that we should all give every age a chance?

Age is measurable and could be there for a reason, these traits people seek may not be and may be found in anyone. Of all ages or profession.

Eh?

Why is excluding certain ages any less arbitrary than excluding people who do certain jobs?

There may be reasons specific to themselves that they won't budge from, example they may not want to meet anyone younger than their eldest child etc.

I'm not saying it's any more or less right but it's a measurable value

Does anyone actually say they will Only meet professionals as opposed to saying they are professionals?

Seems a bit pointless anyway as anyone can lie about their "professional" status. No one is going to ask for details in the world of swing...

Many profiles say they are "looking for other professionals". It's not pointless since most couples prefer not to lie to get meets and therefore, won't.

If people think they will get a shag from someone they fancy if they are economical with the truth about a term as ambiguous as "professional" they will.

After all, as you yourself say a receptionist could in some circles consider themselves a professional.

So we agree it's an ambiguous term, which is more the point to my thread. I just wanted more clarity on the traits desired when asked for professionals

It's more about avoiding off-putting traits which include:

- people who are generally unhappy in life because their job makes them miserable

- people who adopt various defence mechanism about why job choice isn't important because they hate their job

- people with lazy beliefs that they hold because they don't engage their brain often

- reverse snobbery

- people with a victim mentality that the world is out to hold them back

Surely professionals can also show traits in one or more of the above too

Don't make me say probability again "

what are the chances?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"We put "professional" in our profile and I am now wondering why. We haven't tended to meet "professional" people and our criteria tends to be premised on an initial message and profile that doesn't make you sound a complete arse.

We mainly meet single men and we're not looking to be best buddies with people we meet. Hence as long as you aren't an idiot what job you do isn't that relevant..

Unprofessional is the new professional "

You are so current

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By *layfulfox OP   Man  over a year ago

nowhere


"Thought it was a thread about Bodie and Doyle

Grrrrh"

Sorry to disappoint

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By * and M lookingCouple  over a year ago

Worcester


"Thought it was a thread about Bodie and Doyle

Grrrrh

Sorry to disappoint"

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"We put "professional" in our profile and I am now wondering why. We haven't tended to meet "professional" people and our criteria tends to be premised on an initial message and profile that doesn't make you sound a complete arse.

We mainly meet single men and we're not looking to be best buddies with people we meet. Hence as long as you aren't an idiot what job you do isn't that relevant..

Unprofessional is the new professional

You are so current "

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple  over a year ago

Basingstoke


"I'm just seeking clarity and the perspective of others on a subjective statement that I see often

You seem to not grasp the probability angle of it all. It's not that professionals can't get along with non-professionals, they are just more likely to get along with other professionals. Swinging is something most people have very limited time to do and it's not worth arranging meets with people we're less likely to get along with.

Fair enough, however surely by eliminating a large portion of population just for the sake of a few messages to see how the tone is narrows the opportunity of finding someone that potentially is on your wavelength

We nearly all eliminate a large proportion of the population. We have an age range that excludes many people, as do many others. Are you suggesting that we should all give every age a chance?

Age is measurable and could be there for a reason, these traits people seek may not be and may be found in anyone. Of all ages or profession.

Eh?

Why is excluding certain ages any less arbitrary than excluding people who do certain jobs?

There may be reasons specific to themselves that they won't budge from, example they may not want to meet anyone younger than their eldest child etc.

I'm not saying it's any more or less right but it's a measurable value

Does anyone actually say they will Only meet professionals as opposed to saying they are professionals?

Seems a bit pointless anyway as anyone can lie about their "professional" status. No one is going to ask for details in the world of swing...

Many profiles say they are "looking for other professionals". It's not pointless since most couples prefer not to lie to get meets and therefore, won't.

If people think they will get a shag from someone they fancy if they are economical with the truth about a term as ambiguous as "professional" they will.

After all, as you yourself say a receptionist could in some circles consider themselves a professional.

So we agree it's an ambiguous term, which is more the point to my thread. I just wanted more clarity on the traits desired when asked for professionals

It's more about avoiding off-putting traits which include:

- people who are generally unhappy in life because their job makes them miserable

- people who adopt various defence mechanism about why job choice isn't important because they hate their job

- people with lazy beliefs that they hold because they don't engage their brain often

- reverse snobbery

- people with a victim mentality that the world is out to hold them back

Surely professionals can also show traits in one or more of the above too

Don't make me say probability again

what are the chances?"

If we put effort into screening a couple (I.e. exchanging quite a few messages) then about 80% of the socials are very enjoyable and about 50% lead to sex. If we picked a couple based purely on looks then 80% becomes about 30% and some of that would also be because they might not like us, or more likely me specifically.

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By *layfulfox OP   Man  over a year ago

nowhere


"I'm just seeking clarity and the perspective of others on a subjective statement that I see often

You seem to not grasp the probability angle of it all. It's not that professionals can't get along with non-professionals, they are just more likely to get along with other professionals. Swinging is something most people have very limited time to do and it's not worth arranging meets with people we're less likely to get along with.

Fair enough, however surely by eliminating a large portion of population just for the sake of a few messages to see how the tone is narrows the opportunity of finding someone that potentially is on your wavelength

We nearly all eliminate a large proportion of the population. We have an age range that excludes many people, as do many others. Are you suggesting that we should all give every age a chance?

Age is measurable and could be there for a reason, these traits people seek may not be and may be found in anyone. Of all ages or profession.

Eh?

Why is excluding certain ages any less arbitrary than excluding people who do certain jobs?

There may be reasons specific to themselves that they won't budge from, example they may not want to meet anyone younger than their eldest child etc.

I'm not saying it's any more or less right but it's a measurable value

Does anyone actually say they will Only meet professionals as opposed to saying they are professionals?

Seems a bit pointless anyway as anyone can lie about their "professional" status. No one is going to ask for details in the world of swing...

Many profiles say they are "looking for other professionals". It's not pointless since most couples prefer not to lie to get meets and therefore, won't.

If people think they will get a shag from someone they fancy if they are economical with the truth about a term as ambiguous as "professional" they will.

After all, as you yourself say a receptionist could in some circles consider themselves a professional.

So we agree it's an ambiguous term, which is more the point to my thread. I just wanted more clarity on the traits desired when asked for professionals

It's more about avoiding off-putting traits which include:

- people who are generally unhappy in life because their job makes them miserable

- people who adopt various defence mechanism about why job choice isn't important because they hate their job

- people with lazy beliefs that they hold because they don't engage their brain often

- reverse snobbery

- people with a victim mentality that the world is out to hold them back

Surely professionals can also show traits in one or more of the above too

Don't make me say probability again

what are the chances?

If we put effort into screening a couple (I.e. exchanging quite a few messages) then about 80% of the socials are very enjoyable and about 50% lead to sex. If we picked a couple based purely on looks then 80% becomes about 30% and some of that would also be because they might not like us, or more likely me specifically. "

How accurate is your data

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple  over a year ago

Basingstoke


"

Don't make me say probability again

what are the chances?

If we put effort into screening a couple (I.e. exchanging quite a few messages) then about 80% of the socials are very enjoyable and about 50% lead to sex. If we picked a couple based purely on looks then 80% becomes about 30% and some of that would also be because they might not like us, or more likely me specifically.

How accurate is your data"

2SD

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman  over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

If I put 'no idiots' on my profile, would an idiot understand ?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Trigger warning: One professional feels that when they sit down and have a chat with another professional then they are more likely to have similar values and be able to actually have a conversation, compared to a person picked at random.

I’d like to take this bet and dissolve the stereotype

According to your profile, you are pretty dedicated to working hard. Whether or not your job is professional, that would probably put you on our wavelength. I just don't want to hear phrases that grate on my ears like "nobody ever sat on their deathbed wishing they'd spent more time at the office". "

If I was to tell you what I do for a living, the stereotype of my job would widely regard me as someone who doesn’t fit the professional mound at all

However, I’m university educated, a Mensa member and I class myself as intelligent. But, I love what I do.

What I meant, was that If someone wouldn’t give me the time of day because of my job title, I guess I’d be a little bit put out. Because id be able to hold my own among any professionals.

Whilst I understand that it’s and easy way to set one group of people from another, it’s a little bit of a generalisation.

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By *layfulfox OP   Man  over a year ago

nowhere


"

Don't make me say probability again

what are the chances?

If we put effort into screening a couple (I.e. exchanging quite a few messages) then about 80% of the socials are very enjoyable and about 50% lead to sex. If we picked a couple based purely on looks then 80% becomes about 30% and some of that would also be because they might not like us, or more likely me specifically.

How accurate is your data

2SD"

Thanks for this evening it's been fun

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"If I put 'no idiots' on my profile, would an idiot understand ?"

Can you explain that please

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple  over a year ago

Basingstoke


"If I put 'no idiots' on my profile, would an idiot understand ?"

I always think that when people put "No timewasters"

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I'm only meeting professional fuck wits....

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By *layfulfox OP   Man  over a year ago

nowhere


"Trigger warning: One professional feels that when they sit down and have a chat with another professional then they are more likely to have similar values and be able to actually have a conversation, compared to a person picked at random.

I’d like to take this bet and dissolve the stereotype

According to your profile, you are pretty dedicated to working hard. Whether or not your job is professional, that would probably put you on our wavelength. I just don't want to hear phrases that grate on my ears like "nobody ever sat on their deathbed wishing they'd spent more time at the office".

If I was to tell you what I do for a living, the stereotype of my job would widely regard me as someone who doesn’t fit the professional mound at all

However, I’m university educated, a Mensa member and I class myself as intelligent. But, I love what I do.

What I meant, was that If someone wouldn’t give me the time of day because of my job title, I guess I’d be a little bit put out. Because id be able to hold my own among any professionals.

Whilst I understand that it’s and easy way to set one group of people from another, it’s a little bit of a generalisation. "

My perspective too

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Trigger warning: One professional feels that when they sit down and have a chat with another professional then they are more likely to have similar values and be able to actually have a conversation, compared to a person picked at random.

I’d like to take this bet and dissolve the stereotype

According to your profile, you are pretty dedicated to working hard. Whether or not your job is professional, that would probably put you on our wavelength. I just don't want to hear phrases that grate on my ears like "nobody ever sat on their deathbed wishing they'd spent more time at the office".

If I was to tell you what I do for a living, the stereotype of my job would widely regard me as someone who doesn’t fit the professional mound at all

However, I’m university educated, a Mensa member and I class myself as intelligent. But, I love what I do.

What I meant, was that If someone wouldn’t give me the time of day because of my job title, I guess I’d be a little bit put out. Because id be able to hold my own among any professionals.

Whilst I understand that it’s and easy way to set one group of people from another, it’s a little bit of a generalisation. "

I don’t think the job you are referring to is classed as a ‘professional’

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Trigger warning: One professional feels that when they sit down and have a chat with another professional then they are more likely to have similar values and be able to actually have a conversation, compared to a person picked at random.

I’d like to take this bet and dissolve the stereotype

According to your profile, you are pretty dedicated to working hard. Whether or not your job is professional, that would probably put you on our wavelength. I just don't want to hear phrases that grate on my ears like "nobody ever sat on their deathbed wishing they'd spent more time at the office".

If I was to tell you what I do for a living, the stereotype of my job would widely regard me as someone who doesn’t fit the professional mound at all

However, I’m university educated, a Mensa member and I class myself as intelligent. But, I love what I do.

What I meant, was that If someone wouldn’t give me the time of day because of my job title, I guess I’d be a little bit put out. Because id be able to hold my own among any professionals.

Whilst I understand that it’s and easy way to set one group of people from another, it’s a little bit of a generalisation.

I don’t think the job you are referring to is classed as a ‘professional’ "

My point exactly

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By *eep.Man  over a year ago

Just a background character


"Damn, I thought this was going to be about Bodie and Doyle! "

The theme tune was in my head before I even read this far

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple  over a year ago

Basingstoke


"Trigger warning: One professional feels that when they sit down and have a chat with another professional then they are more likely to have similar values and be able to actually have a conversation, compared to a person picked at random.

I’d like to take this bet and dissolve the stereotype

According to your profile, you are pretty dedicated to working hard. Whether or not your job is professional, that would probably put you on our wavelength. I just don't want to hear phrases that grate on my ears like "nobody ever sat on their deathbed wishing they'd spent more time at the office".

If I was to tell you what I do for a living, the stereotype of my job would widely regard me as someone who doesn’t fit the professional mound at all

However, I’m university educated, a Mensa member and I class myself as intelligent. But, I love what I do.

What I meant, was that If someone wouldn’t give me the time of day because of my job title, I guess I’d be a little bit put out. Because id be able to hold my own among any professionals.

Whilst I understand that it’s and easy way to set one group of people from another, it’s a little bit of a generalisation. "

I think in a world of ~7bn people, generalisations and stereotypes are absolutely vital. We've been chatting to people at clubs and then they tell us that they do *insert shit job*, it's not going to change whether we want to play with them or not. But if we get multiple messages on a day then the ones that indicates we have more in common are more likely to get a reply.

If their job is interesting then i might ask something about it. I'm not really interested in details about working the checkouts at asda though. Actually that's a lie, I'd probably still make a joke about interacting with the general public, which thankfully I don't have to in my job.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Trigger warning: One professional feels that when they sit down and have a chat with another professional then they are more likely to have similar values and be able to actually have a conversation, compared to a person picked at random.

I’d like to take this bet and dissolve the stereotype

According to your profile, you are pretty dedicated to working hard. Whether or not your job is professional, that would probably put you on our wavelength. I just don't want to hear phrases that grate on my ears like "nobody ever sat on their deathbed wishing they'd spent more time at the office".

If I was to tell you what I do for a living, the stereotype of my job would widely regard me as someone who doesn’t fit the professional mound at all

However, I’m university educated, a Mensa member and I class myself as intelligent. But, I love what I do.

What I meant, was that If someone wouldn’t give me the time of day because of my job title, I guess I’d be a little bit put out. Because id be able to hold my own among any professionals.

Whilst I understand that it’s and easy way to set one group of people from another, it’s a little bit of a generalisation.

I don’t think the job you are referring to is classed as a ‘professional’

My point exactly "

Sorry, I misread the first part.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman  over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"I'm only meeting professional fuck wits...."

I laughed. That sounds like fun.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Doesn’t professional couple just mean no chavs ?

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman  over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"Damn, I thought this was going to be about Bodie and Doyle!

The theme tune was in my head before I even read this far "

Do do do do .... doodle oodle ooodle ooo Da do do do.

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By *layfulfox OP   Man  over a year ago

nowhere


"Trigger warning: One professional feels that when they sit down and have a chat with another professional then they are more likely to have similar values and be able to actually have a conversation, compared to a person picked at random.

I’d like to take this bet and dissolve the stereotype

According to your profile, you are pretty dedicated to working hard. Whether or not your job is professional, that would probably put you on our wavelength. I just don't want to hear phrases that grate on my ears like "nobody ever sat on their deathbed wishing they'd spent more time at the office".

If I was to tell you what I do for a living, the stereotype of my job would widely regard me as someone who doesn’t fit the professional mound at all

However, I’m university educated, a Mensa member and I class myself as intelligent. But, I love what I do.

What I meant, was that If someone wouldn’t give me the time of day because of my job title, I guess I’d be a little bit put out. Because id be able to hold my own among any professionals.

Whilst I understand that it’s and easy way to set one group of people from another, it’s a little bit of a generalisation.

I think in a world of ~7bn people, generalisations and stereotypes are absolutely vital. We've been chatting to people at clubs and then they tell us that they do *insert shit job*, it's not going to change whether we want to play with them or not. But if we get multiple messages on a day then the ones that indicates we have more in common are more likely to get a reply.

If their job is interesting then i might ask something about it. I'm not really interested in details about working the checkouts at asda though. Actually that's a lie, I'd probably still make a joke about interacting with the general public, which thankfully I don't have to in my job. "

Because in a world of 7bn people there is a good chance many you'll come across are a pain in the ass some deliberately and others completely unintentionally and you're just there thinking is this person for real!

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple  over a year ago

Basingstoke


"Doesn’t professional couple just mean no chavs ?"

It's a bit broader than that, we also don't want the sort that watch love island, big brother or eastenders.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Doesn’t professional couple just mean no chavs ?

It's a bit broader than that, we also don't want the sort that watch love island, big brother or eastenders. "

That comes under chav.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Doesn’t professional couple just mean no chavs ?

It's a bit broader than that, we also don't want the sort that watch love island, big brother or eastenders. "

What about I’m a celebrity get me out of here? Is that acceptable?

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple  over a year ago

Basingstoke


"Trigger warning: One professional feels that when they sit down and have a chat with another professional then they are more likely to have similar values and be able to actually have a conversation, compared to a person picked at random.

I’d like to take this bet and dissolve the stereotype

According to your profile, you are pretty dedicated to working hard. Whether or not your job is professional, that would probably put you on our wavelength. I just don't want to hear phrases that grate on my ears like "nobody ever sat on their deathbed wishing they'd spent more time at the office".

If I was to tell you what I do for a living, the stereotype of my job would widely regard me as someone who doesn’t fit the professional mound at all

However, I’m university educated, a Mensa member and I class myself as intelligent. But, I love what I do.

What I meant, was that If someone wouldn’t give me the time of day because of my job title, I guess I’d be a little bit put out. Because id be able to hold my own among any professionals.

Whilst I understand that it’s and easy way to set one group of people from another, it’s a little bit of a generalisation.

I think in a world of ~7bn people, generalisations and stereotypes are absolutely vital. We've been chatting to people at clubs and then they tell us that they do *insert shit job*, it's not going to change whether we want to play with them or not. But if we get multiple messages on a day then the ones that indicates we have more in common are more likely to get a reply.

If their job is interesting then i might ask something about it. I'm not really interested in details about working the checkouts at asda though. Actually that's a lie, I'd probably still make a joke about interacting with the general public, which thankfully I don't have to in my job.

Because in a world of 7bn people there is a good chance many you'll come across are a pain in the ass some deliberately and others completely unintentionally and you're just there thinking is this person for real!"

Yes i remember the first time I met a young earth creationist. I was completely stumped on how to respond.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple  over a year ago

Basingstoke


"Doesn’t professional couple just mean no chavs ?

It's a bit broader than that, we also don't want the sort that watch love island, big brother or eastenders.

What about I’m a celebrity get me out of here? Is that acceptable?"

No and you can pretty much write off anything ant and Dec in it other than byker grove, which would have been high brow at the time they were watching it

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Doesn’t professional couple just mean no chavs ?

It's a bit broader than that, we also don't want the sort that watch love island, big brother or eastenders.

That comes under chav."

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Doesn’t professional couple just mean no chavs ?

It's a bit broader than that, we also don't want the sort that watch love island, big brother or eastenders.

What about I’m a celebrity get me out of here? Is that acceptable?

No and you can pretty much write off anything ant and Dec in it other than byker grove, which would have been high brow at the time they were watching it"

Right then. Reality TV and soaps are out.

You should update your profile with this

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple  over a year ago

Basingstoke


"Doesn’t professional couple just mean no chavs ?

It's a bit broader than that, we also don't want the sort that watch love island, big brother or eastenders.

What about I’m a celebrity get me out of here? Is that acceptable?

No and you can pretty much write off anything ant and Dec in it other than byker grove, which would have been high brow at the time they were watching it

Right then. Reality TV and soaps are out.

You should update your profile with this "

Not all reality TV... It's more like, if you're sat at home watching TV on a Saturday night then if hope you have a doctor's note explaining why

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By *layfulfox OP   Man  over a year ago

nowhere

Right it's been a blast, I'm off to bed.

Off on holiday with my daughter in the morning have fun while I'm gone.

Play nicely people

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Night all, enjoyed this wee venture in to the forum

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Doesn’t professional couple just mean no chavs ?

It's a bit broader than that, we also don't want the sort that watch love island, big brother or eastenders.

What about I’m a celebrity get me out of here? Is that acceptable?

No and you can pretty much write off anything ant and Dec in it other than byker grove, which would have been high brow at the time they were watching it

Right then. Reality TV and soaps are out.

You should update your profile with this

Not all reality TV... It's more like, if you're sat at home watching TV on a Saturday night then if hope you have a doctor's note explaining why "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Right it's been a blast, I'm off to bed.

Off on holiday with my daughter in the morning have fun while I'm gone.

Play nicely people"

Night. Have a lovely holiday x

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman  over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"Doesn’t professional couple just mean no chavs ?

It's a bit broader than that, we also don't want the sort that watch love island, big brother or eastenders. "

one out of three aint that bad .......

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple  over a year ago

Basingstoke


"Doesn’t professional couple just mean no chavs ?

It's a bit broader than that, we also don't want the sort that watch love island, big brother or eastenders.

one out of three aint that bad ....... "

To be fair, I've had someone cringe at me when i said I like Dr Phil

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman  over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"Doesn’t professional couple just mean no chavs ?

It's a bit broader than that, we also don't want the sort that watch love island, big brother or eastenders.

one out of three aint that bad .......

To be fair, I've had someone cringe at me when i said I like Dr Phil "

You've just lost all credibility

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Doesn’t professional couple just mean no chavs ?

It's a bit broader than that, we also don't want the sort that watch love island, big brother or eastenders.

one out of three aint that bad .......

To be fair, I've had someone cringe at me when i said I like Dr Phil "

Cringe...

I was just about to say I don’t like reality tv and just realised I’ve got tattoo fixers on in the background.

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By *layfulfox OP   Man  over a year ago

nowhere


"Night all, enjoyed this wee venture in to the forum "

Great input

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple  over a year ago

Basingstoke


"Doesn’t professional couple just mean no chavs ?

It's a bit broader than that, we also don't want the sort that watch love island, big brother or eastenders.

one out of three aint that bad .......

To be fair, I've had someone cringe at me when i said I like Dr Phil

Cringe...

I was just about to say I don’t like reality tv and just realised I’ve got tattoo fixers on in the background. "

I was actually really taken back by it, I still have no idea why anyone wouldn't like Dr Phil. I was too afraid to ask though as she really screwed up her face when i said it.

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