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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Is staying at home to look after kids a real job?
Is watching kids tv and playing with Lego less important than drinking coffee and eating butties on a building site all day?
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I guess in the clasdic sense no, you're not being paid in monetary terms....but I know a lot of people who think going to work is a break from doing it . That says it all! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"If us blokes didn't drink coffee & eat butties on building sites all day, then you women would have no houses to do your housework in!  "
If women didn't raise kids, you'd have no people to build houses for!  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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No its not a job.
Its much more than a job.
A job is what you do to earn money to pay bills.
Stay at mums are there to raise their kids.
No connection between the two |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I cant think of anything more important than raising kids well.
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Do they raise kids well? Shopping in pj's and playing on their phone while their toddler kicks the shit out of the neighbour's dog. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"If us blokes didn't drink coffee & eat butties on building sites all day, then you women would have no houses to do your housework in! "
How do the houses get built when the men are bending over with their arses hanging out of their filthy jeans while eating a ham butty? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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" I guess in the clasdic sense no, you're not being paid in monetary terms....but I know a lot of people who think going to work is a break from doing it . That says it all! "
I think I'd rather drink coffee in an office than chase a horde of screaming jam covered kids around Aldi! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I cant think of anything more important than raising kids well.
Do they raise kids well? Shopping in pj's and playing on their phone while their toddler kicks the shit out of the neighbour's dog."
I think on the whole they probably do. The stereotype of the Jeremy Kyle kind of mum at home isn't the norm.
And anyway, kicking next doors dog is good for raising the kids awareness of danger |
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If you stay at home looking after your kids you're not just sitting down watching tv and playing Lego, you're keeping house as well, you get more time to do it than if you were going out to work as well.
Some have to work, some choose to work, others want to work but can't afford childcare or get jobs to fit around childcare.
If a housewife or husband got paid the going rate for the actual jobs they did each day there would probably be a few more choosing to stay at home |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"No its not a job.
Its much more than a job.
A job is what you do to earn money to pay bills.
Stay at mums are there to raise their kids.
No connection between the two"
First and foremost a job involves work, no money needs to change hands in order for it to be considered a job. There is a difference between work and going to work. |
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"If you stay at home looking after your kids you're not just sitting down watching tv and playing Lego, you're keeping house as well, you get more time to do it than if you were going out to work as well.
Some have to work, some choose to work, others want to work but can't afford childcare or get jobs to fit around childcare.
If a housewife or husband got paid the going rate for the actual jobs they did each day there would probably be a few more choosing to stay at home"
. Though there are plenty out there who would soon get the sack for getting too little done.. Watching Jeremy Kyle whilst kids play x box is hardly a productive morning  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"No its not a job.
Its much more than a job.
A job is what you do to earn money to pay bills.
Stay at mums are there to raise their kids.
No connection between the two
First and foremost a job involves work, no money needs to change hands in order for it to be considered a job. There is a difference between work and going to work."
I see where you're coming from, but I don't class having/raising kids as work or a job, more of a lifestyle choice (can't think of a better choice) |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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A lot of people out there who have to do both, in this day and age it doesn’t matter what you do as there will always be someone with an opinion telling you that you are wrong |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"I cant think of anything more important than raising kids well.
Do they raise kids well? Shopping in pj's and playing on their phone while their toddler kicks the shit out of the neighbour's dog."
They don't all do it like that. I know my sister, and her husband, have raised theirs. They have educated, entertained, cared, catered and, of course the bit that isn't a job, loved them.
Now that she has returned to paid work outside the home we all see the little things about the 'job' that she just got on with that we took for granted.
It's a vocation, but so are some paid roles outside the home.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I do both and pretty much always have done.
I work 24 hours a day and have done for 19 years.
If I had been "paid" for that at minimum wage, I'd be bloody rich!!
I think raising my kids has been the hardest job I have ever had. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Easiest job in the world, you’re off the grid. Only job you can do in your pyjamas, you can make up the rules as you go along, so you can watch Escape to the Country. |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound |
"Easiest job in the world, you’re off the grid. Only job you can do in your pyjamas, you can make up the rules as you go along, so you can watch Escape to the Country. "
You get criticised about almost everything you do as people judge whether you are a good parent or not.
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Whilst they are toddlers then fine. I had a mate who didn’t get a job til her kids were 9 and 10. They were at school for the majority of them years her argument was ‘the kids needed a mum at home’... they weren’t even at home.
Someone further up said it was a lifestyle choice, which is the very fact, if you have a man at home to pay the bills.. she didn’t, she just knew the state would pay her.
I had children the same age, ran a house, kept up to homework etc all whilst working 20 some hours a week.
Maybe I’m the stupid one, I don’t know |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"obviously it's a loaded question...but no, it's not a 'job'
Of course its a loaded question...
The OP is well known for posting them "
Why the rolling eyes? Do you have a problem? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I do both and pretty much always have done.
I work 24 hours a day and have done for 19 years.
If I had been "paid" for that at minimum wage, I'd be bloody rich!!
I think raising my kids has been the hardest job I have ever had. "
I've seen estimates for what the pay would be if a 'housewife' got paid for all the jobs they do. Childminder, carer, cleaner, chauffeur, chef, etc. It's a lot!
And no holidays or weekends off. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I do both and pretty much always have done.
I work 24 hours a day and have done for 19 years.
If I had been "paid" for that at minimum wage, I'd be bloody rich!!
I think raising my kids has been the hardest job I have ever had.
I've seen estimates for what the pay would be if a 'housewife' got paid for all the jobs they do. Childminder, carer, cleaner, chauffeur, chef, etc. It's a lot!
And no holidays or weekends off. "
'Taking into account all the cooking, cleaning, nursing and childcare (plus a dash of counselling and work as a personal organiser), housewives deserve an annual salary of £159,137.'
www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/11164040/How-much-is-a-housewife-worth.html
However they don't seem to understand the number of hours in a week or job ratios, they've just added all the wages up.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Please ask this question to the divorced man who has to pay his wife alimony for all the years of house work and raising the kids....
My client paid his wife a one time settlement of $20 million for staying at home with nannies and housekeepers.... |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound |
"We think it so important that it should be illegal for both partners in a marriage with children to work.
One should remain at home to look after the kids"
How are some families to survive if there is only one minimum wage salary coming in?
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Is staying at home to look after kids a real job?
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What are you defining as a job? And then what are you defining as a real job?
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Is watching kids tv and playing with Lego less important than drinking coffee and eating butties on a building site all day?
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In what context? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"We think it so important that it should be illegal for both partners in a marriage with children to work.
One should remain at home to look after the kids"
Isn't that just a huge kick in the ass for single parent families though? |
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"Is staying at home to look after kids a real job?
Is watching kids tv and playing with Lego less important than drinking coffee and eating butties on a building site all day?
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No!
You forgot to include : get the hoover out, make the bed, clean the bathroom and make the dinner |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"If us blokes didn't drink coffee & eat butties on building sites all day, then you women would have no houses to do your housework in!
How do the houses get built when the men are bending over with their arses hanging out of their filthy jeans while eating a ham butty?"
Who the fuck would choose bending over with your arse hanging out as the best position to eat a butty in, that's what I'd like to know... |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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www.metro.co.uk/2018/07/27/woman-quits-job-and-ditches-modern-life-to-become-a-1950s-housewife-7762715/
'Jemima, who quit her job as a government worker, is married to 29-year-old engineer Jack. The couple live in Brisbane, Australia.
Jemima is so obsessed with the 50s lifestyle that she’s taking time out from her criminology career to take pride in leading the true lifestyle of a 1950s housewife.'
The article seems to focus mainly on her outfits for some reason. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Is staying at home to look after kids a real job?
What are you defining as a job? And then what are you defining as a real job?
Is watching kids tv and playing with Lego less important than drinking coffee and eating butties on a building site all day?
In what context?"
I'm not defining anything, it's open for people to discuss. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I do both and pretty much always have done.
I work 24 hours a day and have done for 19 years.
If I had been "paid" for that at minimum wage, I'd be bloody rich!!
I think raising my kids has been the hardest job I have ever had.
I've seen estimates for what the pay would be if a 'housewife' got paid for all the jobs they do. Childminder, carer, cleaner, chauffeur, chef, etc. It's a lot!
And no holidays or weekends off.
'Taking into account all the cooking, cleaning, nursing and childcare (plus a dash of counselling and work as a personal organiser), housewives deserve an annual salary of £159,137.'
www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/11164040/How-much-is-a-housewife-worth.html
However they don't seem to understand the number of hours in a week or job ratios, they've just added all the wages up. "
By that rationale though and not taking the hours into account, the average bloke as well as his normal wage would receive the full wage of a plumber, mechanic, driver, painter and decorator, counsellor, financial advisor, gardener and heavy duty cleaner. Plus the all the wages that a stay at home housewife/husband would get for a weekend's work.
It's incalculable for either role. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I do both and pretty much always have done.
I work 24 hours a day and have done for 19 years.
If I had been "paid" for that at minimum wage, I'd be bloody rich!!
I think raising my kids has been the hardest job I have ever had.
I've seen estimates for what the pay would be if a 'housewife' got paid for all the jobs they do. Childminder, carer, cleaner, chauffeur, chef, etc. It's a lot!
And no holidays or weekends off.
'Taking into account all the cooking, cleaning, nursing and childcare (plus a dash of counselling and work as a personal organiser), housewives deserve an annual salary of £159,137.'
www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/11164040/How-much-is-a-housewife-worth.html
However they don't seem to understand the number of hours in a week or job ratios, they've just added all the wages up.
By that rationale though and not taking the hours into account, the average bloke as well as his normal wage would receive the full wage of a plumber, mechanic, driver, painter and decorator, counsellor, financial advisor, gardener and heavy duty cleaner. Plus the all the wages that a stay at home housewife/husband would get for a weekend's work.
It's incalculable for either role."
I agree. Articles like the one I quoted say that 'housewife' is a proper and valued job yet they still seem to infer it's not.
Some people sit on their arses all day watching Jeremy Kyle and eating crisps. Some people sit on their arses all day in the office drinking coffee and little else. Hence the point in my OP. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I think it's the hardest most lonely job ever. I couldn't do it, 1, because couldn't afford to and 2 because it would drive me insane. I've always worked part time since having my son. I think nursery are good for kids as it teaches them through play. |
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