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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Why do people believe in ghosts and superstitions? Or is this an Irish thing? Everyone seems to have had a relative move a chair the week after they died here. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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The ghost / spirits are mostly part of peoples hopes that theirs an afterlife and that the spirits of their departed loved ones are still about in some capacity...and I know loads of people who have interrupted events and signs that they have proved that to them, and it's a lovely thought to think that they are still about them.
Organised religion doesn't dominate society here like it did and it doesn't cut it fir a lot of people due to the corruption of all organisations run by people.
Whatever peoples faith and what are whoever they put faith in is a great thing to have for any spirtual person, wheather that be manifested in their souls as a white bearded God or the energy of the universe...or anything in between....and I think it's a basic human need to have something that occupies that space in a person's being, even a person who is atheist in their beliefs about a greater supernatural force / energy can have faith in their relationship(s), humanity or their own morals.
I can't think of a more empty possible existence, than living with a hollowness inside that so often can make someone scorn other's beliefs, see empathy as a weakness and can make their own lives a selfish and lonely horror of bitterness, pain and negativity.
So thank whoever or whatever for beliefs in something positiv greater than ones self. |
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I think it’s stored energy and a latent power in yourself to visualise or access it. Your brain processes that energy and it comes out as a ghost because you can relate to that. You can’t imagine the unimaginable. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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I don't want to tell people what they did and didn't see. They may have or they make just not have been in the right mind at the time. I don't believe in them. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I've seen 3 ghost and none were family and none were in my home.
No I wasn't d*unk and no I'm not talking crap. Once you see one, you'll believe it too!
I think it's very rude to take the mick out of people who claim to have seen or experienced anything paranormal. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I've seen 3 ghost and none were family and none were in my home.
No I wasn't d*unk and no I'm not talking crap. Once you see one, you'll believe it too!
I think it's very rude to take the mick out of people who claim to have seen or experienced anything paranormal. "
Haven't taken the mick. I'm a realist, I need solid evidence for it and not just someones story even when it's my own mother ha. Why do they move things or touch things but never actually fully engage with people? Atleast they haven't engaged fully with my friends and family who have seen them. |
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By *aeganaWoman
over a year ago
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Seen my grandad few days after he died i was a mess as i hadnt got to say goodbye and we had argued last time we had seen each other always say it was his way of saying goodbye. Also seen the grey lady and monka at dudley castle when i said to the guide there he was surprised as he said they dont even mention that monks used a part of the castle hundreds of years ago x |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I've seen 3 ghost and none were family and none were in my home.
No I wasn't d*unk and no I'm not talking crap. Once you see one, you'll believe it too!
I think it's very rude to take the mick out of people who claim to have seen or experienced anything paranormal. "
What, even though there's no scientific evidence whatsoever of anything paranormal. |
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"I've seen 3 ghost and none were family and none were in my home.
No I wasn't d*unk and no I'm not talking crap. Once you see one, you'll believe it too!
I think it's very rude to take the mick out of people who claim to have seen or experienced anything paranormal.
What, even though there's no scientific evidence whatsoever of anything paranormal."
There used to be no scientific evidence for gravity. It’s a very narrow and limiting point of view to only accept things that have scientific evidence. Some things exist that haven’t yet been discovered or evidenced - that doesn’t mean that they don’t exist. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I believe in them too, and my friend was taking pictures of a picturesque street in France no one at all on it but when she looked back at the pictures later on her phone a definite black silhouette of a person. Freak her the fuck out because she couldn’t see anything, no shadows no hidden alleyways casting a shadow etc. Don’t know what else it could have been |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I've seen 3 ghost and none were family and none were in my home.
No I wasn't d*unk and no I'm not talking crap. Once you see one, you'll believe it too!
I think it's very rude to take the mick out of people who claim to have seen or experienced anything paranormal.
What, even though there's no scientific evidence whatsoever of anything paranormal.
There used to be no scientific evidence for gravity. It’s a very narrow and limiting point of view to only accept things that have scientific evidence. Some things exist that haven’t yet been discovered or evidenced - that doesn’t mean that they don’t exist. "
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The ghost / spirits are mostly part of peoples hopes that theirs an afterlife and that the spirits of their departed loved ones are still about in some capacity...and I know loads of people who have interrupted events and signs that they have proved that to them, and it's a lovely thought to think that they are still about them.
Organised religion doesn't dominate society here like it did and it doesn't cut it fir a lot of people due to the corruption of all organisations run by people.
Whatever peoples faith and what are whoever they put faith in is a great thing to have for any spirtual person, wheather that be manifested in their souls as a white bearded God or the energy of the universe...or anything in between....and I think it's a basic human need to have something that occupies that space in a person's being, even a person who is atheist in their beliefs about a greater supernatural force / energy can have faith in their relationship(s), humanity or their own morals.
I can't think of a more empty possible existence, than living with a hollowness inside that so often can make someone scorn other's beliefs, see empathy as a weakness and can make their own lives a selfish and lonely horror of bitterness, pain and negativity.
So thank whoever or whatever for beliefs in something positiv greater than ones self."
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Ive seen several ghosts, at different times of the day and locations.
There are things in life that can't be explained and just because of that doesn't mean they dont exist. |
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I don't believe in ghosts, I've never seen one and I think when people have seen something they thought was a ghost it's more likely to be a hallucination of some type. When my dad died a couple of years ago I found myself in the weeks after desperately hoping to be visited by a ghost of him despite my scepticism just to know he was still around, but nothing happened so I remain sceptical.
I did see something in the house I moved into earlier this year when I woke up on the sofa in the middle of the night which made me shit bricks, but I'm pretty certain it was a hypnapompic hallucination and not a ghost.
I do like a good ghost story or film though! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I've seen 3 ghost and none were family and none were in my home.
No I wasn't d*unk and no I'm not talking crap. Once you see one, you'll believe it too!
I think it's very rude to take the mick out of people who claim to have seen or experienced anything paranormal. "
Agreed! I’ve seen three too, the first in particular was an amazing experience. I’m totally relaxed about their existence now. |
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As our mind/brain is hugely complex and capable, there are many reasons just within it why we'd believe in many things that don't exist, as well as some that may. If there was no such thing as a ghost, God etc, then we may as well start and stop our investigation in the human brain. If there is, our brain will also create our perceptions and beliefs anyway, so the source of ghosts etc is going to be dependent on that organ. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I don’t believe in ghosts but have experienced a handful of ‘unexplained phenomena” to the point it has been suggested I might be Psychic.
I’m not - but what I believe I have seen, felt and heard on these different occasions, sometimes corroborated by other people, goes unexplained. I think the brain plays tricks on you. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I've seen 3 ghost and none were family and none were in my home.
No I wasn't d*unk and no I'm not talking crap. Once you see one, you'll believe it too!
I think it's very rude to take the mick out of people who claim to have seen or experienced anything paranormal.
What, even though there's no scientific evidence whatsoever of anything paranormal.
There used to be no scientific evidence for gravity. It’s a very narrow and limiting point of view to only accept things that have scientific evidence. Some things exist that haven’t yet been discovered or evidenced - that doesn’t mean that they don’t exist.
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The major difference is scientific research has been carried out and absolutely no evidence has been found. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I've seen 3 ghost and none were family and none were in my home.
No I wasn't d*unk and no I'm not talking crap. Once you see one, you'll believe it too!
I think it's very rude to take the mick out of people who claim to have seen or experienced anything paranormal.
What, even though there's no scientific evidence whatsoever of anything paranormal.
There used to be no scientific evidence for gravity. It’s a very narrow and limiting point of view to only accept things that have scientific evidence. Some things exist that haven’t yet been discovered or evidenced - that doesn’t mean that they don’t exist.
The major difference is scientific research has been carried out and absolutely no evidence has been found."
That could mean they don't have the tools to detect it. They didn't have the tools to look at bacteria or skin cells hundreds of years ago. |
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"I've seen 3 ghost and none were family and none were in my home.
No I wasn't d*unk and no I'm not talking crap. Once you see one, you'll believe it too!
I think it's very rude to take the mick out of people who claim to have seen or experienced anything paranormal.
What, even though there's no scientific evidence whatsoever of anything paranormal.
There used to be no scientific evidence for gravity. It’s a very narrow and limiting point of view to only accept things that have scientific evidence. Some things exist that haven’t yet been discovered or evidenced - that doesn’t mean that they don’t exist.
The major difference is scientific research has been carried out and absolutely no evidence has been found."
Einstein once wrote to a scientist and said this; “You are the only contemporary physicist, besides Laue, who sees that one cannot get around the assumption of reality, if only one is honest. Most of them simply do not see what sort of risky game they are playing with reality—reality as something independent of what is experimentally established. Their interpretation is, however, refuted most elegantly by your system of radioactive atom + amplifier + charge of gun powder + cat in a box, in which the psi-function of the system contains both the cat alive and blown to bits. Nobody really doubts that the presence or absence of the cat is something independent of the act of observation....”
Read the last sentence. If scientists observe or create an experient or do research etc. then the very act/fact of their doing so influences the said experiential or research.
Perhaps the ghosts didn’t want to be found by such people, therefore they didn’t find the ghosts. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I've seen 3 ghost and none were family and none were in my home.
No I wasn't d*unk and no I'm not talking crap. Once you see one, you'll believe it too!
I think it's very rude to take the mick out of people who claim to have seen or experienced anything paranormal.
What, even though there's no scientific evidence whatsoever of anything paranormal.
There used to be no scientific evidence for gravity. It’s a very narrow and limiting point of view to only accept things that have scientific evidence. Some things exist that haven’t yet been discovered or evidenced - that doesn’t mean that they don’t exist.
The major difference is scientific research has been carried out and absolutely no evidence has been found.
Einstein once wrote to a scientist and said this; “You are the only contemporary physicist, besides Laue, who sees that one cannot get around the assumption of reality, if only one is honest. Most of them simply do not see what sort of risky game they are playing with reality—reality as something independent of what is experimentally established. Their interpretation is, however, refuted most elegantly by your system of radioactive atom + amplifier + charge of gun powder + cat in a box, in which the psi-function of the system contains both the cat alive and blown to bits. Nobody really doubts that the presence or absence of the cat is something independent of the act of observation....”
Read the last sentence. If scientists observe or create an experient or do research etc. then the very act/fact of their doing so influences the said experiential or research.
Perhaps the ghosts didn’t want to be found by such people, therefore they didn’t find the ghosts. "
Really, the ghosts don't want to be found!  |
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"I believe in ghosts, I saw my Dad the day after he died, as clear as day.
I believe in ghosts too but I don't believe they're the spirits of dead people.
What do you think they are?"
I honestly don't know, nobody does. I *think* that energy somehow replays itself.
I do know that the energy or spirit of a person continues for a short time after death but I don't believe that it can continue to exist indefinitely. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I believe that since my mum passed that she is watching over me and my son.
I have overheard my son talking to her in his room and she has appeared to me in very vivid dreams..
I dont know if its a reassurance thing or not but she only appears every time I am feeling vulnerable but that doesnt explain my son talking to her |
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Yep, the ghosts don’t want to be found. That was, of course, slightly tongue in cheek but the fact remains that science has yet to discover everything even if they try. You’re obviously not going to believe and I’m not trying to encourage you, merely point out the fallacy in the assertion that ghosts can’t exist because scientists haven’t found them. |
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"I believe that since my mum passed that she is watching over me and my son.
I have overheard my son talking to her in his room and she has appeared to me in very vivid dreams..
I dont know if its a reassurance thing or not but she only appears every time I am feeling vulnerable but that doesnt explain my son talking to her"
Are you a scientist? |
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"I believe in ghosts, I saw my Dad the day after he died, as clear as day.
I believe in ghosts too but I don't believe they're the spirits of dead people.
What do you think they are?
I honestly don't know, nobody does. I *think* that energy somehow replays itself.
I do know that the energy or spirit of a person continues for a short time after death but I don't believe that it can continue to exist indefinitely."
Are you a quantum physicist (retired)? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I believe that since my mum passed that she is watching over me and my son.
I have overheard my son talking to her in his room and she has appeared to me in very vivid dreams..
I dont know if its a reassurance thing or not but she only appears every time I am feeling vulnerable but that doesnt explain my son talking to her
Are you a scientist? "
No im an artist |
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"I believe in ghosts, I saw my Dad the day after he died, as clear as day.
I believe in ghosts too but I don't believe they're the spirits of dead people.
What do you think they are?
I honestly don't know, nobody does. I *think* that energy somehow replays itself.
I do know that the energy or spirit of a person continues for a short time after death but I don't believe that it can continue to exist indefinitely.
Are you a quantum physicist (retired)? "
I'm retired if that's any help.  |
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By *ocbigMan
over a year ago
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"I've seen 3 ghost and none were family and none were in my home.
No I wasn't d*unk and no I'm not talking crap. Once you see one, you'll believe it too!
I think it's very rude to take the mick out of people who claim to have seen or experienced anything paranormal.
What, even though there's no scientific evidence whatsoever of anything paranormal.
There used to be no scientific evidence for gravity. It’s a very narrow and limiting point of view to only accept things that have scientific evidence. Some things exist that haven’t yet been discovered or evidenced - that doesn’t mean that they don’t exist.
The major difference is scientific research has been carried out and absolutely no evidence has been found.
That could mean they don't have the tools to detect it. They didn't have the tools to look at bacteria or skin cells hundreds of years ago. "
But those tools have been developed & exist 'ghosts' have been 'seen' long before bacteria was theorised & proven to exist & yet no tools exist. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I've seen 3 ghost and none were family and none were in my home.
No I wasn't d*unk and no I'm not talking crap. Once you see one, you'll believe it too!
I think it's very rude to take the mick out of people who claim to have seen or experienced anything paranormal.
What, even though there's no scientific evidence whatsoever of anything paranormal.
There used to be no scientific evidence for gravity. It’s a very narrow and limiting point of view to only accept things that have scientific evidence. Some things exist that haven’t yet been discovered or evidenced - that doesn’t mean that they don’t exist.
The major difference is scientific research has been carried out and absolutely no evidence has been found.
That could mean they don't have the tools to detect it. They didn't have the tools to look at bacteria or skin cells hundreds of years ago.
But those tools have been developed & exist 'ghosts' have been 'seen' long before bacteria was theorised & proven to exist & yet no tools exist."
I have dreams, thoughts, feelings. Where are the tools that prove these things exist? |
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By *ocbigMan
over a year ago
Birmingham |
"I've seen 3 ghost and none were family and none were in my home.
No I wasn't d*unk and no I'm not talking crap. Once you see one, you'll believe it too!
I think it's very rude to take the mick out of people who claim to have seen or experienced anything paranormal.
What, even though there's no scientific evidence whatsoever of anything paranormal.
There used to be no scientific evidence for gravity. It’s a very narrow and limiting point of view to only accept things that have scientific evidence. Some things exist that haven’t yet been discovered or evidenced - that doesn’t mean that they don’t exist.
The major difference is scientific research has been carried out and absolutely no evidence has been found.
That could mean they don't have the tools to detect it. They didn't have the tools to look at bacteria or skin cells hundreds of years ago.
But those tools have been developed & exist 'ghosts' have been 'seen' long before bacteria was theorised & proven to exist & yet no tools exist.
I have dreams, thoughts, feelings. Where are the tools that prove these things exist?"
Monitoring the electrical activity in the brain..... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I've seen 3 ghost and none were family and none were in my home.
No I wasn't d*unk and no I'm not talking crap. Once you see one, you'll believe it too!
I think it's very rude to take the mick out of people who claim to have seen or experienced anything paranormal.
What, even though there's no scientific evidence whatsoever of anything paranormal.
There used to be no scientific evidence for gravity. It’s a very narrow and limiting point of view to only accept things that have scientific evidence. Some things exist that haven’t yet been discovered or evidenced - that doesn’t mean that they don’t exist.
The major difference is scientific research has been carried out and absolutely no evidence has been found.
That could mean they don't have the tools to detect it. They didn't have the tools to look at bacteria or skin cells hundreds of years ago.
But those tools have been developed & exist 'ghosts' have been 'seen' long before bacteria was theorised & proven to exist & yet no tools exist.
I have dreams, thoughts, feelings. Where are the tools that prove these things exist?
Monitoring the electrical activity in the brain....."
So 200 years ago, dreams, thoughts and feelings didn't exist. No brain scanners to prove it. |
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By *ocbigMan
over a year ago
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"I've seen 3 ghost and none were family and none were in my home.
No I wasn't d*unk and no I'm not talking crap. Once you see one, you'll believe it too!
I think it's very rude to take the mick out of people who claim to have seen or experienced anything paranormal.
What, even though there's no scientific evidence whatsoever of anything paranormal.
There used to be no scientific evidence for gravity. It’s a very narrow and limiting point of view to only accept things that have scientific evidence. Some things exist that haven’t yet been discovered or evidenced - that doesn’t mean that they don’t exist.
The major difference is scientific research has been carried out and absolutely no evidence has been found.
That could mean they don't have the tools to detect it. They didn't have the tools to look at bacteria or skin cells hundreds of years ago.
But those tools have been developed & exist 'ghosts' have been 'seen' long before bacteria was theorised & proven to exist & yet no tools exist.
I have dreams, thoughts, feelings. Where are the tools that prove these things exist?
Monitoring the electrical activity in the brain.....
So 200 years ago, dreams, thoughts and feelings didn't exist. No brain scanners to prove it. "
Not what I said..nor you for that matter. 200 years ago proof existed for none of those things, so explanations were formulated to fit. Now we have explanations/proof/tools to show dreams & thoughts etc as they occur in the brain. No such tool exists for ghosts. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I've seen 3 ghost and none were family and none were in my home.
No I wasn't d*unk and no I'm not talking crap. Once you see one, you'll believe it too!
I think it's very rude to take the mick out of people who claim to have seen or experienced anything paranormal.
What, even though there's no scientific evidence whatsoever of anything paranormal.
There used to be no scientific evidence for gravity. It’s a very narrow and limiting point of view to only accept things that have scientific evidence. Some things exist that haven’t yet been discovered or evidenced - that doesn’t mean that they don’t exist.
The major difference is scientific research has been carried out and absolutely no evidence has been found.
That could mean they don't have the tools to detect it. They didn't have the tools to look at bacteria or skin cells hundreds of years ago.
But those tools have been developed & exist 'ghosts' have been 'seen' long before bacteria was theorised & proven to exist & yet no tools exist.
I have dreams, thoughts, feelings. Where are the tools that prove these things exist?
Monitoring the electrical activity in the brain.....
So 200 years ago, dreams, thoughts and feelings didn't exist. No brain scanners to prove it.
Not what I said..nor you for that matter. 200 years ago proof existed for none of those things, so explanations were formulated to fit. Now we have explanations/proof/tools to show dreams & thoughts etc as they occur in the brain. No such tool exists for ghosts."
Apologies- yes I agree. No tool exists. Yet.  |
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By *ocbigMan
over a year ago
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"I've seen 3 ghost and none were family and none were in my home.
No I wasn't d*unk and no I'm not talking crap. Once you see one, you'll believe it too!
I think it's very rude to take the mick out of people who claim to have seen or experienced anything paranormal.
What, even though there's no scientific evidence whatsoever of anything paranormal.
There used to be no scientific evidence for gravity. It’s a very narrow and limiting point of view to only accept things that have scientific evidence. Some things exist that haven’t yet been discovered or evidenced - that doesn’t mean that they don’t exist.
The major difference is scientific research has been carried out and absolutely no evidence has been found.
That could mean they don't have the tools to detect it. They didn't have the tools to look at bacteria or skin cells hundreds of years ago.
But those tools have been developed & exist 'ghosts' have been 'seen' long before bacteria was theorised & proven to exist & yet no tools exist.
I have dreams, thoughts, feelings. Where are the tools that prove these things exist?
Monitoring the electrical activity in the brain.....
So 200 years ago, dreams, thoughts and feelings didn't exist. No brain scanners to prove it.
Not what I said..nor you for that matter. 200 years ago proof existed for none of those things, so explanations were formulated to fit. Now we have explanations/proof/tools to show dreams & thoughts etc as they occur in the brain. No such tool exists for ghosts.
Apologies- yes I agree. No tool exists. Yet.
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...not in my reality anyway... |
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"Scientifically impossible. If you want to see a 'ghost' your brain will trick you into it"
but paranormally possible. It’s energies external to a human, the human brain simply interprets that energy into something you/they might be able to understand.
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"Scientifically impossible. If you want to see a 'ghost' your brain will trick you into it but paranormally possible. It’s energies external to a human, the human brain simply interprets that energy into something you/they might be able to understand. "
Watch an episode of most haunted, no self respecting ghost is gonna communicate with those idiots |
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"Scientifically impossible. If you want to see a 'ghost' your brain will trick you into it but paranormally possible. It’s energies external to a human, the human brain simply interprets that energy into something you/they might be able to understand.
Watch an episode of most haunted, no self respecting ghost is gonna communicate with those idiots "
all filmed in the dark so you can’t see the strings |
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"So..given we have belief & non belief, where do we individually daw the line?
Santa Claus? Easter Bunny? Fairies? Demons? Goblins? Vampires? Piers Morgan? Just where does it all end?"
With each individuals personal experiences and interpretation of them.
My parents are committed Christians. I can't share their commitment or trust in their faith but to them it's very real and believable, to the extent that neither of them question it any more. |
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"I've seen 3 ghost and none were family and none were in my home.
No I wasn't d*unk and no I'm not talking crap. Once you see one, you'll believe it too!
I think it's very rude to take the mick out of people who claim to have seen or experienced anything paranormal.
What, even though there's no scientific evidence whatsoever of anything paranormal.
There used to be no scientific evidence for gravity. It’s a very narrow and limiting point of view to only accept things that have scientific evidence. Some things exist that haven’t yet been discovered or evidenced - that doesn’t mean that they don’t exist.
The major difference is scientific research has been carried out and absolutely no evidence has been found.
That could mean they don't have the tools to detect it. They didn't have the tools to look at bacteria or skin cells hundreds of years ago.
But those tools have been developed & exist 'ghosts' have been 'seen' long before bacteria was theorised & proven to exist & yet no tools exist.
I have dreams, thoughts, feelings. Where are the tools that prove these things exist?"
The distinction is between objective and subjective reality. Your thoughts, feelings and dreams exist only in your head and no one says otherwise. Most people think houses, trees and the planet Mars exist indendepently of thoughts in people's heads.
If people say ghosts exist merely as thoughts in people's head, no one would dispute that. It's where people claim that they exist independently of said thoughts that the dispute arises. |
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"I've seen 3 ghost and none were family and none were in my home.
No I wasn't d*unk and no I'm not talking crap. Once you see one, you'll believe it too!
I think it's very rude to take the mick out of people who claim to have seen or experienced anything paranormal.
What, even though there's no scientific evidence whatsoever of anything paranormal.
There used to be no scientific evidence for gravity. It’s a very narrow and limiting point of view to only accept things that have scientific evidence. Some things exist that haven’t yet been discovered or evidenced - that doesn’t mean that they don’t exist.
The major difference is scientific research has been carried out and absolutely no evidence has been found.
That could mean they don't have the tools to detect it. They didn't have the tools to look at bacteria or skin cells hundreds of years ago.
But those tools have been developed & exist 'ghosts' have been 'seen' long before bacteria was theorised & proven to exist & yet no tools exist.
I have dreams, thoughts, feelings. Where are the tools that prove these things exist?
The distinction is between objective and subjective reality. Your thoughts, feelings and dreams exist only in your head and no one says otherwise. Most people think houses, trees and the planet Mars exist indendepently of thoughts in people's heads.
If people say ghosts exist merely as thoughts in people's head, no one would dispute that. It's where people claim that they exist independently of said thoughts that the dispute arises. "
If people said that ghosts are a manifestation of a dead person's thoughts they might be more accepting of the idea. |
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"I've seen 3 ghost and none were family and none were in my home.
No I wasn't d*unk and no I'm not talking crap. Once you see one, you'll believe it too!
I think it's very rude to take the mick out of people who claim to have seen or experienced anything paranormal.
What, even though there's no scientific evidence whatsoever of anything paranormal.
There used to be no scientific evidence for gravity. It’s a very narrow and limiting point of view to only accept things that have scientific evidence. Some things exist that haven’t yet been discovered or evidenced - that doesn’t mean that they don’t exist.
The major difference is scientific research has been carried out and absolutely no evidence has been found.
That could mean they don't have the tools to detect it. They didn't have the tools to look at bacteria or skin cells hundreds of years ago.
But those tools have been developed & exist 'ghosts' have been 'seen' long before bacteria was theorised & proven to exist & yet no tools exist.
I have dreams, thoughts, feelings. Where are the tools that prove these things exist?
The distinction is between objective and subjective reality. Your thoughts, feelings and dreams exist only in your head and no one says otherwise. Most people think houses, trees and the planet Mars exist indendepently of thoughts in people's heads.
If people say ghosts exist merely as thoughts in people's head, no one would dispute that. It's where people claim that they exist independently of said thoughts that the dispute arises.
If people said that ghosts are a manifestation of a dead person's thoughts they might be more accepting of the idea."
If it's said those thoughts can exist otherwise than in a live persons head, I'd disagree. |
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Id love to see a ghost ....
I went to a ghost event at Dudley castle in the ruins ...
Dereck Ackora was there.... doing his "show " .....it was the biggest load of codswallop I have ever heard .... people were making fun of him in the end ..... |
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"Id love to see a ghost ....
I went to a ghost event at Dudley castle in the ruins ...
Dereck Ackora was there.... doing his "show " .....it was the biggest load of codswallop I have ever heard .... people were making fun of him in the end ....."
Most people of his ilk are frauds. Colin Fry another television medium died a couple of years ago. I'd have expected him to make a reappearance but not so much as a moving glass |
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"Id love to see a ghost ....
I went to a ghost event at Dudley castle in the ruins ...
Dereck Ackora was there.... doing his "show " .....it was the biggest load of codswallop I have ever heard .... people were making fun of him in the end .....
Most people of his ilk are frauds. Colin Fry another television medium died a couple of years ago. I'd have expected him to make a reappearance but not so much as a moving glass "
They are all either conscious frauds or deluded. |
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"Id love to see a ghost ....
I went to a ghost event at Dudley castle in the ruins ...
Dereck Ackora was there.... doing his "show " .....it was the biggest load of codswallop I have ever heard .... people were making fun of him in the end .....
Most people of his ilk are frauds. Colin Fry another television medium died a couple of years ago. I'd have expected him to make a reappearance but not so much as a moving glass
They are all either conscious frauds or deluded. "
Hear, hear! |
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What's the most likely explanation? Why didn't anyone manage to claim Randi's million dollars for paranormal experience? Have you believed in Uri Geller or people who see and communicate with ghosts? |
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