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Should stupid people be allowed to voice there opinion ?

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

And before you say ‘Well you voice yours, lol !’ I’m way ahead of you.

The problem with the internet is it gives uninformed idiots a voice and now we have brexit. Thoughts please, but no stupid ones !

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Smart people know you don't have to listen to stupid people's opinion.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Everyone is entitled to an opinion whether you, I or everyone agrees with it or not...

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By *lik and PaulCouple  over a year ago

Flagrante

And who gets to decide who is stupid?

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By *eeBee67Man  over a year ago

Masked and Distant

An opinion is there to be shared whether it aligns with yours or not.

Unless of course you live in North Korea

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By *hilloutMan  over a year ago

All over the place! Northwesr, , Southwest


"And before you say ‘Well you voice yours, lol !’ I’m way ahead of you.

The problem with the internet is it gives uninformed idiots a voice and now we have brexit. Thoughts please, but no stupid ones !"

That's rather harsh. So 17 million british voters are dumb and uninformed?

Getting my popcorn for this one

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"And who gets to decide who is stupid?"

The opinion of the person judging them!!

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By *rightonsteveMan  over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

There, their, they’re.....don’t stress, dude.

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By *n Search Of SunsetCouple  over a year ago

Search Of Sunset

How'd u know they are stupid if they don't have an opinion?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I could argue that way before the Internet, when very few had a voice, we had 2 World wars and people died in their hundreds of thousands ...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

*their

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"And who gets to decide who is stupid?"
it takes one to know another

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By *etLikeMan  over a year ago

most fundamental aspects

Opinions are like arse holes:

Everyone has one, but not everyone accepts that they can be explored

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"And who gets to decide who is stupid?"

Intelligent people with fact based evidence.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

No, that is why brexit happened lol.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Opinions are like arse holes:

Everyone has one, but not everyone accepts that they can be explored "

Or opinions are like arseholes, you’ve only got one.

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By *olden RatioWoman  over a year ago

Buckinghamshire

Everyone should be entitled to voice their opinion. Whether Brexit should have been decided on by public vote is a different matter.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"And who gets to decide who is stupid?it takes one to know another "

That’s the problem, stupid people don’t know there stupid and that’s why they’re dangerous and need to be stopped.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"And before you say ‘Well you voice yours, lol !’ I’m way ahead of you.

The problem with the internet is it gives uninformed idiots a voice and now we have brexit. Thoughts please, but no stupid ones !"

It also informs the uninformed idiots (to a degree) so they they may garner the knowledge that they are lacking and thus enable them to (hopefully) become more competent at whatever it is they may be incompetant at.

howzat?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Everyone is entitled to an opinion whether you, I or everyone agrees with it or not... "

I agree totally

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By *riefcase_WankerMan  over a year ago

Milton Keynes


"Opinions are like arse holes:

Everyone has one, but not everyone accepts that they can be explored "

Opinions are like orgasms - mine's more important and I don't really care if you have one

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Everyone should be entitled to voice their opinion. Whether Brexit should have been decided on by public vote is a different matter."

Do you think Cameron should have called a referendum on it, and should be have said it was only a referendum to get an idea of how people were feeling, not a cast iron vote in or out?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"And before you say ‘Well you voice yours, lol !’ I’m way ahead of you.

The problem with the internet is it gives uninformed idiots a voice and now we have brexit. Thoughts please, but no stupid ones !

It also informs the uninformed idiots (to a degree) so they they may garner the knowledge that they are lacking and thus enable them to (hopefully) become more competent at whatever it is they may be incompetant at.

howzat?"

Doesn’t work on my spelling though!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

How do we (the people) define what an idiot is?

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By *riefcase_WankerMan  over a year ago

Milton Keynes


"And before you say ‘Well you voice yours, lol !’ I’m way ahead of you.

The problem with the internet is it gives uninformed idiots a voice and now we have brexit. Thoughts please, but no stupid ones !

That's rather harsh. So 17 million british voters are dumb and uninformed?

Getting my popcorn for this one "

Huge underestimate...in a country of about 65 million people, probably about double what you're suggesting...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I could argue that way before the Internet, when very few had a voice, we had 2 World wars and people died in their hundreds of thousands ... "

And people tried to fly with feathers on their arms.

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By *hetalkingstoveMan  over a year ago

London


"How do we (the people) define what an idiot is?"

Generally it's 'people who disagree with me'

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"How do we (the people) define what an idiot is?"

Someone who believes the Earth is flat is a good starting point and post modernists.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Everyone is entitled to an opinion.

Should the opinion of someone uninformed be given the same weight as that of an expert? Of course not.

The problem with opinions right now is the least informed shout the loudest and cover their ears.

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By *riefcase_WankerMan  over a year ago

Milton Keynes


"How do we (the people) define what an idiot is?

Someone who believes the Earth is flat is a good starting point and post modernists."

I think a good working definition might be anyone that refuses to change their mind even when the evidence completely negates their beliefs

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By *ust PeachyWoman  over a year ago

Prestonish


"And before you say ‘Well you voice yours, lol !’ I’m way ahead of you.

The problem with the internet is it gives uninformed idiots a voice and now we have brexit. Thoughts please, but no stupid ones !"

No they shouldn’t!

They shouldn’t be allowed to vote either

..... or reproduce!

But who decides who’s stupid?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I could argue that way before the Internet, when very few had a voice, we had 2 World wars and people died in their hundreds of thousands ...

And people tried to fly with feathers on their arms."

Just don't fly to close to the Sun

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By *hetalkingstoveMan  over a year ago

London


" post modernists."

How much post modernism philosophy or literature have you read?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Yes of course. If it's an opinion not based on fact then that should be pretty apparent.

Also if the "intelligent" people have evidence to back up their opinions then they shouldn't feel threatened by a "stupid" opinion.

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By *tirluvMan  over a year ago

the right frame of mind -London

this iz jus stoopid lolz

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Teacher's teach you how to be stupid

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Teacher's teach you how to be stupid"

No, bad parents do.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"And who gets to decide who is stupid?it takes one to know another

That’s the problem, stupid people don’t know there stupid and that’s why they’re dangerous and need to be stopped. "

I know I'm stupid, people tell me all the time. I should research everything to the edge of the Internet before I post or speak. But I know they still won't be happy. What should I do?

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


" post modernists.

How much post modernism philosophy or literature have you read? "

What do you want a list of books ?

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By *riefcase_WankerMan  over a year ago

Milton Keynes

This is why entrance exams for polling stations needs to be a thing...

I know it sounds a bit fascisty, but bear with me - it's not an intelligence test, stupid people deserve a vote too.

What it is, is a multiple choice test that looks at knowledge of objective, undisputed information that is widely available in the public sphere.

Things like "what percentage of the population is Muslim" or "how much of the national budget, as a proportion of GDP, is spent on Jobseekers Allowance" or "what proportion of the welfare bill goes towards pensions"

Score 100% you get a full vote. 50% half a vote. 0% sorry, fuck off and stick to X-Factor, this is too important for the likes of you...

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By *hetalkingstoveMan  over a year ago

London


" post modernists.

How much post modernism philosophy or literature have you read?

What do you want a list of books ?"

Something that indicates you have the first clue what you're talking about?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Brexit's going well.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"This is why entrance exams for polling stations needs to be a thing...

I know it sounds a bit fascisty, but bear with me - it's not an intelligence test, stupid people deserve a vote too.

What it is, is a multiple choice test that looks at knowledge of objective, undisputed information that is widely available in the public sphere.

Things like "what percentage of the population is Muslim" or "how much of the national budget, as a proportion of GDP, is spent on Jobseekers Allowance" or "what proportion of the welfare bill goes towards pensions"

Score 100% you get a full vote. 50% half a vote. 0% sorry, fuck off and stick to X-Factor, this is too important for the likes of you..."

Have you considered moving to North Korea?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

"Everybody is a Genius. But If You Judge a Fish by Its Ability to Climb a Tree, It Will Live Its Whole Life Believing that It is Stupid"

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By *hilloutMan  over a year ago

All over the place! Northwesr, , Southwest


"And before you say ‘Well you voice yours, lol !’ I’m way ahead of you.

The problem with the internet is it gives uninformed idiots a voice and now we have brexit. Thoughts please, but no stupid ones !

That's rather harsh. So 17 million british voters are dumb and uninformed?

Getting my popcorn for this one

Huge underestimate...in a country of about 65 million people, probably about double what you're suggesting..."

Those were the official stats. Don't forget the abstention rate.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Teacher's teach you how to be stupid

No, bad parents do."

they both can

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By *ere2pleasureUMan  over a year ago

Kington


"Everyone is entitled to an opinion.

Should the opinion of someone uninformed be given the same weight as that of an expert? Of course not.

The problem with opinions right now is the least informed shout the loudest and cover their ears."

This.

Sadly, then those less informed then follow those who are good sounding I formed and lead us to worse places.

Meanwhile, those with knowledge and facts are judged as geeks and seen as not thinking out of the box.

Sadly I think popular opinion now forms much of what we do, rather than educated, well researched facts...

Rant over!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Just try stopping them

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By *icassolifelikeMan  over a year ago

Luton

There’s an old African proverb that’s quite apt here.

When you die you don’t know that you’re dead. It is difficult only for the others.

It is the same when you are stupid.

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By *abs..Woman  over a year ago

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"Teacher's teach you how to be stupid"

What an odd comment.

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By *ere2pleasureUMan  over a year ago

Kington


"Brexit's going well."

Yes, David Davis said so, so it must be!

Oh no... Wait.. He quit didn't he, along with all the other stupid people who pursuaded so many to vote leave, without furnishing them with the facts to make an i formed choice.

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By *eliciousladyWoman  over a year ago

Sometimes U.K


"Everyone is entitled to an opinion whether you, I or everyone agrees with it or not... "

Exactly.

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By *riefcase_WankerMan  over a year ago

Milton Keynes


"This is why entrance exams for polling stations needs to be a thing...

I know it sounds a bit fascisty, but bear with me - it's not an intelligence test, stupid people deserve a vote too.

What it is, is a multiple choice test that looks at knowledge of objective, undisputed information that is widely available in the public sphere.

Things like "what percentage of the population is Muslim" or "how much of the national budget, as a proportion of GDP, is spent on Jobseekers Allowance" or "what proportion of the welfare bill goes towards pensions"

Score 100% you get a full vote. 50% half a vote. 0% sorry, fuck off and stick to X-Factor, this is too important for the likes of you...

Have you considered moving to North Korea? "

Hey, everybody still gets to turn up and vote, they get the participation prize...it just calculates how informed they are and weights their vote accordingly...

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By *riefcase_WankerMan  over a year ago

Milton Keynes


"And before you say ‘Well you voice yours, lol !’ I’m way ahead of you.

The problem with the internet is it gives uninformed idiots a voice and now we have brexit. Thoughts please, but no stupid ones !

That's rather harsh. So 17 million british voters are dumb and uninformed?

Getting my popcorn for this one

Huge underestimate...in a country of about 65 million people, probably about double what you're suggesting...

Those were the official stats. Don't forget the abstention rate."

I can't remember if it was Churchill, some other political figure, or some random...but the jist is there:

Think about how stupid the average person is, and then consider that half the population are even stupider than that...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Smart people also know that every mistake is a chance to learn to do better next time

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Everyone is entitled to an opinion whether you, I or everyone agrees with it or not...

Exactly. "

Yeah, that’s the major flaw in democracy

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Is this one of those ironic self referential post modern questions where you realise that the question itself is stupid and that if it had its way it wouldn't have even allowed itself to be asked?

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By *riefcase_WankerMan  over a year ago

Milton Keynes


"Everyone is entitled to an opinion whether you, I or everyone agrees with it or not...

Exactly.

Yeah, that’s the major flaw in democracy "

Somewhat ironic that those we credit as the godfathers of democracy were so dismissive of it

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

There's a saying that roughly translates to:-

"If you want the simplest solution, ask the simplest person"

and from Desiderata:-

"Speak your truth quietly and clearly, and listen to others, even the dull and ignorant; they too have their story."

I've found in life that even a person may appear to be "stupid", their minds work differently and they can apply an oblique approach to life and problems that I sometimes admire. "Ignorance is bliss" is probably sometimes a good thing, for some.

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex


"There's a saying that roughly translates to:-

"If you want the simplest solution, ask the simplest person"

and from Desiderata:-

"Speak your truth quietly and clearly, and listen to others, even the dull and ignorant; they too have their story."

I've found in life that even a person may appear to be "stupid", their minds work differently and they can apply an oblique approach to life and problems that I sometimes admire. "Ignorance is bliss" is probably sometimes a good thing, for some."

I agree with that. Most people have something of worth to say.

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By *loswingersCouple  over a year ago

Gloucester


"And who gets to decide who is stupid?

Intelligent people with fact based evidence. "

When they debate in here , you tend to come in on your scooter , realise there is an intelligent debate going on , and scoot back out again

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"There's a saying that roughly translates to:-

"If you want the simplest solution, ask the simplest person"

and from Desiderata:-

"Speak your truth quietly and clearly, and listen to others, even the dull and ignorant; they too have their story."

I've found in life that even a person may appear to be "stupid", their minds work differently and they can apply an oblique approach to life and problems that I sometimes admire. "Ignorance is bliss" is probably sometimes a good thing, for some."

The problem with stupid people is they’re never wrong, they can’t empathise with the other person and understand their argument.

They won’t budge on their position, regardless of any valid arguments brought to them.

They overestimate there skills and underestimate the competence of others.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"And who gets to decide who is stupid?

Intelligent people with fact based evidence.

When they debate in here , you tend to come in on your scooter , realise there is an intelligent debate going on , and scoot back out again "

Haha, scooter is parked up at the moment !

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By *loswingersCouple  over a year ago

Gloucester


"There's a saying that roughly translates to:-

"If you want the simplest solution, ask the simplest person"

and from Desiderata:-

"Speak your truth quietly and clearly, and listen to others, even the dull and ignorant; they too have their story."

I've found in life that even a person may appear to be "stupid", their minds work differently and they can apply an oblique approach to life and problems that I sometimes admire. "Ignorance is bliss" is probably sometimes a good thing, for some.

I agree with that. Most people have something of worth to say. "

To be fair that’s a very egalitarian approach .

I haven’t heard Tommy Robinson say anything worthwhile , nor from recent history , Peter Sutcliffe , Myra Hindley , Ian Brady , etc......

On a more personal level there are plenty of people I’ve interacted with who have never said a thing that I feel,is worth listening too .

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

OK, I won't speak ever again

Mrs x

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By *arlomaleMan  over a year ago

darlington

Do you find people on here actually try to sound more intelligent than they actually are and argue about politics which for me should not be allowed on a swingers forum it should be left for all the boring old farts in parliament to bang there gums about

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By *riefcase_WankerMan  over a year ago

Milton Keynes


"There's a saying that roughly translates to:-

"If you want the simplest solution, ask the simplest person"

and from Desiderata:-

"Speak your truth quietly and clearly, and listen to others, even the dull and ignorant; they too have their story."

I've found in life that even a person may appear to be "stupid", their minds work differently and they can apply an oblique approach to life and problems that I sometimes admire. "Ignorance is bliss" is probably sometimes a good thing, for some.

The problem with stupid people is they’re never wrong, they can’t empathise with the other person and understand their argument.

They won’t budge on their position, regardless of any valid arguments brought to them.

They overestimate there skills and underestimate the competence of others.

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Dunning Kruger effect. It's easier to argue against an intelligent person than a stupid one.

It's a bit like table tennis. It's much easier to play against someone really good

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I agree with the shared thoughts above that all folk have something worthy to say....but then I read somethings, mostly on Facebook and realise I want to say to the contrary, but know I'll be hung drawn and quartered!

Truth is, I reckon we've all said something stupid on the internet?

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By *loswingersCouple  over a year ago

Gloucester


"Everyone is entitled to an opinion whether you, I or everyone agrees with it or not...

Exactly.

Yeah, that’s the major flaw in democracy "

I totally agree with this .

People who are clueless and make absolutely no contribution to society , have as much right to influence major decisions in the society that they do nothing to further . That’s a massive flaw in our democracy which makes society what it is .

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By *riefcase_WankerMan  over a year ago

Milton Keynes


". To be fair that’s a very egalitarian approach .

I haven’t heard Tommy Robinson say anything worthwhile , nor from recent history , Peter Sutcliffe , Myra Hindley , Ian Brady , etc......

On a more personal level there are plenty of people I’ve interacted with who have never said a thing that I feel,is worth listening too ."

In all fairness, if you watch 'Tommy' giving an address to the Oxford Union, he actually presents quite a considered, nuanced argument that I found myself surprisingly agreeing with the majority of what he was saying.

He's not as dumb as he acts. He knows how to pitch himself to his audience

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"There's a saying that roughly translates to:-

"If you want the simplest solution, ask the simplest person"

and from Desiderata:-

"Speak your truth quietly and clearly, and listen to others, even the dull and ignorant; they too have their story."

I've found in life that even a person may appear to be "stupid", their minds work differently and they can apply an oblique approach to life and problems that I sometimes admire. "Ignorance is bliss" is probably sometimes a good thing, for some.

The problem with stupid people is they’re never wrong, they can’t empathise with the other person and understand their argument.

They won’t budge on their position, regardless of any valid arguments brought to them.

They overestimate there skills and underestimate the competence of others.

Dunning Kruger effect. It's easier to argue against an intelligent person than a stupid one.

It's a bit like table tennis. It's much easier to play against someone really good"

It’s like the pigeon chess analogy.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


" I agree with the shared thoughts above that all folk have something worthy to say....but then I read somethings, mostly on Facebook and realise I want to say to the contrary, but know I'll be hung drawn and quartered!

Truth is, I reckon we've all said something stupid on the internet? "

Yes, but some people are consistent at it.

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By *loswingersCouple  over a year ago

Gloucester


". To be fair that’s a very egalitarian approach .

I haven’t heard Tommy Robinson say anything worthwhile , nor from recent history , Peter Sutcliffe , Myra Hindley , Ian Brady , etc......

On a more personal level there are plenty of people I’ve interacted with who have never said a thing that I feel,is worth listening too .

In all fairness, if you watch 'Tommy' giving an address to the Oxford Union, he actually presents quite a considered, nuanced argument that I found myself surprisingly agreeing with the majority of what he was saying.

He's not as dumb as he acts. He knows how to pitch himself to his audience"

And yet gets himself locked up , knowing full well he was in breach of his previous misdemeanors and that it would happen if he did what he did .

That’s not someone who’s not as dumb as he acts is it ?

I watched a few of his you tube videos recently and I don’t think he’s worth listening to . And that’s my opinion

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By *oiluvfunMan  over a year ago

Penrith

Do you know the difference between ignorance and apathy?

I don't know and I don't care

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By *icketysplitsWoman  over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

I haven't read the thread but I wonder what definition is being used for stupid?

Some of the recent posts have been inducing. Was the post stupid or the person who made it?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Wanders in...

Reads thread...

Slips away silently

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By *icketysplitsWoman  over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


". To be fair that’s a very egalitarian approach .

I haven’t heard Tommy Robinson say anything worthwhile , nor from recent history , Peter Sutcliffe , Myra Hindley , Ian Brady , etc......

On a more personal level there are plenty of people I’ve interacted with who have never said a thing that I feel,is worth listening too .

In all fairness, if you watch 'Tommy' giving an address to the Oxford Union, he actually presents quite a considered, nuanced argument that I found myself surprisingly agreeing with the majority of what he was saying.

He's not as dumb as he acts. He knows how to pitch himself to his audience

And yet gets himself locked up , knowing full well he was in breach of his previous misdemeanors and that it would happen if he did what he did .

That’s not someone who’s not as dumb as he acts is it ?

I watched a few of his you tube videos recently and I don’t think he’s worth listening to . And that’s my opinion "

I believe he allowed himself to be incarcerated in order to stay in the news and ensure that people would rally.

We have an unprotected freedom of speech here and all the defense of Robinson and hateful comments cite the fact that we have freedom of speech. It can be withdrawn, topics can be legislated and, in this day of the internet, hosts can censor.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I haven't read the thread but I wonder what definition is being used for stupid?

Some of the recent posts have been inducing. Was the post stupid or the person who made it?

"

I asked for a definition. I think stupid is more a physical behaviour characteristic.

"Stupidly, he stepped barefoot onto a live train track" kind of thing.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"And before you say ‘Well you voice yours, lol !’ I’m way ahead of you.

The problem with the internet is it gives uninformed idiots a voice and now we have brexit. Thoughts please, but no stupid ones !"

But brexits a good thing it keeps foid on my table

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

A quote from Forrest Gump "Stupid is as stupid does."

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By *icketysplitsWoman  over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"I haven't read the thread but I wonder what definition is being used for stupid?

Some of the recent posts have been inducing. Was the post stupid or the person who made it?

I asked for a definition. I think stupid is more a physical behaviour characteristic.

"Stupidly, he stepped barefoot onto a live train track" kind of thing.

"

I am inclined to the lack of common sense and/or intelligence definition. Your example could fit both. So a post that lacks common sense or intelligence could be stupid, I suppose. When it's willful, does it still count?

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By *bonynivoryCouple  over a year ago

market harborough


"There's a saying that roughly translates to:-

"If you want the simplest solution, ask the simplest person"

and from Desiderata:-

"Speak your truth quietly and clearly, and listen to others, even the dull and ignorant; they too have their story."

I've found in life that even a person may appear to be "stupid", their minds work differently and they can apply an oblique approach to life and problems that I sometimes admire. "Ignorance is bliss" is probably sometimes a good thing, for some.

The problem with stupid people is they’re never wrong, they can’t empathise with the other person and understand their argument.

They won’t budge on their position, regardless of any valid arguments brought to them.

They overestimate there skills and underestimate the competence of others.

"

Like those that know brexit is right or wrong because they are clever and people who disagree are stupid. With not a single lucid fact they haven't read in a pro or against propaganda sheet to back it up

Short of personally knowing somebody for some time it is almost impossible to make that judgment.

I also know several incredibly intelligent people who I would class as stupid, and a number of people who think they are stupid are farcreom it and trust my life to.

Why modern day judging of other people without experience direcrly of them is such a very sad development.

I certainly wouldn't class somebody different political views, values or opinions to my own as stupid purely because they held them. However strongly I disagree with their logic or thought processes to get there.

Brexit was a very tough choice, and I can see, and could have voted, either way, voting Labour or Conservative I struggle to understand how a sane person sometimes could vote a particular way

That doesn't make them stupid.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I haven't read the thread but I wonder what definition is being used for stupid?

Some of the recent posts have been inducing. Was the post stupid or the person who made it?

I asked for a definition. I think stupid is more a physical behaviour characteristic.

"Stupidly, he stepped barefoot onto a live train track" kind of thing.

I am inclined to the lack of common sense and/or intelligence definition. Your example could fit both. So a post that lacks common sense or intelligence could be stupid, I suppose. When it's willful, does it still count?

"

I would say no. Stupid denotes to me a lack of awareness.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The problem with stupid people is they’re never wrong, they can’t empathise with the other person and understand their argument.

They won’t budge on their position, regardless of any valid arguments brought to them.

They overestimate there skills and underestimate the competence of others. "

In my experience that happens with intelligent debaters too. They won't budge from their position, even when a valid, opposing argument is aired.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"And before you say ‘Well you voice yours, lol !’ I’m way ahead of you.

The problem with the internet is it gives uninformed idiots a voice and now we have brexit. Thoughts please, but no stupid ones !

But brexits a good thing it keeps foid on my table "

You need a rich person who can’t read on your table ?

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By *ubiousOatcakeMan  over a year ago

Aberdeenshire


"Do you find people on here actually try to sound more intelligent than they actually are..."

Some certainly do. I can think of one in particular.


"...and argue about politics which for me should not be allowed on a swingers forum..."

I know. How dare grown adults talk about things that interest them on a forum designed to discuss pretty much anything.


"...it should be left for all the boring old farts in parliament to bang there gums about "

Right. You know that that gum-banging can lead to things that have a massive impact on your day to day life, don’t you? And that we get to decide who does the gum-banging? And that we can do that better if we’re better informed? And that one great way to become better informed is to discuss things?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

No they shouldn't. Stupid people think stupid things. Taking constructive criticism as jealousy, things like that

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By *abs..Woman  over a year ago

..


"There's a saying that roughly translates to:-

"If you want the simplest solution, ask the simplest person"

and from Desiderata:-

"Speak your truth quietly and clearly, and listen to others, even the dull and ignorant; they too have their story."

I've found in life that even a person may appear to be "stupid", their minds work differently and they can apply an oblique approach to life and problems that I sometimes admire. "Ignorance is bliss" is probably sometimes a good thing, for some.

The problem with stupid people is they’re never wrong, they can’t empathise with the other person and understand their argument.

They won’t budge on their position, regardless of any valid arguments brought to them.

They overestimate there skills and underestimate the competence of others.

"

The exact same thing applies to so called ‘intelligent’ people. If you have to try to prove your intelligence then you’re really not that intelligent.

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By *andydave28Man  over a year ago

weston super mare

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By *ubiousOatcakeMan  over a year ago

Aberdeenshire


"Unfortunately its called democratise lol?????? "

Oh my.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Do you find people on here actually try to sound more intelligent than they actually are...

Some certainly do. I can think of one in particular.

...and argue about politics which for me should not be allowed on a swingers forum...

I know. How dare grown adults talk about things that interest them on a forum designed to discuss pretty much anything.

...it should be left for all the boring old farts in parliament to bang there gums about

Right. You know that that gum-banging can lead to things that have a massive impact on your day to day life, don’t you? And that we get to decide who does the gum-banging? And that we can do that better if we’re better informed? And that one great way to become better informed is to discuss things?"

You so need to get laid !

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By *ubiousOatcakeMan  over a year ago

Aberdeenshire


"You so need to get laid !"

I’m doing fine in that department, thanks. Not that it’s any of your business.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I guess there's no real definition of what constitutes as being stupid, when it's said as very often it's down to opinion.

But when people give opinions beluevingvthem to be facts, that is irritating.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"You so need to get laid !

I’m doing fine in that department, thanks. Not that it’s any of your business."

*as he looks at right hand and winks*

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By *ubiousOatcakeMan  over a year ago

Aberdeenshire


"*as he looks at right hand and winks*"

Believe what you want.

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By *abs..Woman  over a year ago

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Good lord

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By *arlomaleMan  over a year ago

darlington


"Do you find people on here actually try to sound more intelligent than they actually are...

Some certainly do. I can think of one in particular.

...and argue about politics which for me should not be allowed on a swingers forum...

I know. How dare grown adults talk about things that interest them on a forum designed to discuss pretty much anything.

...it should be left for all the boring old farts in parliament to bang there gums about

Right. You know that that gum-banging can lead to things that have a massive impact on your day to day life, don’t you? And that we get to decide who does the gum-banging? And that we can do that better if we’re better informed? And that one great way to become better informed is to discuss things?"

just my opinion it bores the life out of me and I’m sure there’s a forum on here just for boring old farts to discuss brexit etc etc

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By *uncouple_12Couple  over a year ago

bristol

Everyone could be described as a idiot depending on the topic of choice op

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Do you find people on here actually try to sound more intelligent than they actually are...

Some certainly do. I can think of one in particular.

...and argue about politics which for me should not be allowed on a swingers forum...

I know. How dare grown adults talk about things that interest them on a forum designed to discuss pretty much anything.

...it should be left for all the boring old farts in parliament to bang there gums about

Right. You know that that gum-banging can lead to things that have a massive impact on your day to day life, don’t you? And that we get to decide who does the gum-banging? And that we can do that better if we’re better informed? And that one great way to become better informed is to discuss things?

just my opinion it bores the life out of me and I’m sure there’s a forum on here just for boring old farts to discuss brexit etc etc "

There is. The politics forum.

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By *omesWoman  over a year ago

Surrey


"Opinions are like arse holes:

Everyone has one, but not everyone accepts that they can be explored "

Lol

Best analogy I've heard all day

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By *phroditeWoman  over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland

Isn't intelligence about having original thoughts rather than regurgitating other people's ideas? Just a thought.

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By *arlomaleMan  over a year ago

darlington


"Do you find people on here actually try to sound more intelligent than they actually are...

Some certainly do. I can think of one in particular.

...and argue about politics which for me should not be allowed on a swingers forum...

I know. How dare grown adults talk about things that interest them on a forum designed to discuss pretty much anything.

...it should be left for all the boring old farts in parliament to bang there gums about

Right. You know that that gum-banging can lead to things that have a massive impact on your day to day life, don’t you? And that we get to decide who does the gum-banging? And that we can do that better if we’re better informed? And that one great way to become better informed is to discuss things?

just my opinion it bores the life out of me and I’m sure there’s a forum on here just for boring old farts to discuss brexit etc etc

There is. The politics forum.

"

I thought there was but I wouldn’t know as I don’t particularly take an interest in it I know it’s a disgrace ps I find football a tad boring as well omg what’s wrong with me am I normal

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"*as he looks at right hand and winks*

Believe what you want."

Yip

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By *thwalescplCouple  over a year ago

brecon


"And who gets to decide who is stupid?"

I think putting "there" instead of "their" in forum thread titles qualifies someone as being a bit "challenged" maybe?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"And before you say ‘Well you voice yours, lol !’ I’m way ahead of you.

The problem with the internet is it gives uninformed idiots a voice and now we have brexit. Thoughts please, but no stupid ones !"

Define stupid

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"And who gets to decide who is stupid?

I think putting "there" instead of "their" in forum thread titles qualifies someone as being a bit "challenged" maybe? "

I was being ironic, well spotted.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"I haven't read the thread but I wonder what definition is being used for stupid?

Some of the recent posts have been inducing. Was the post stupid or the person who made it?

"

Don’t worry stupid people won’t be offended, ignorance is bliss.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Smart people also know that every mistake is a chance to learn to do better next time"

I love this.

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By *ynecplCouple  over a year ago

Newcastle upon Tyne


"And before you say ‘Well you voice yours, lol !’ I’m way ahead of you.

The problem with the internet is it gives uninformed idiots a voice and now we have brexit. Thoughts please, but no stupid ones !"

Whose version of Stupid are we using.

The correct answer is always yes that is what being a democracy is all about.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"And before you say ‘Well you voice yours, lol !’ I’m way ahead of you.

The problem with the internet is it gives uninformed idiots a voice and now we have brexit. Thoughts please, but no stupid ones !

Whose version of Stupid are we using.

The correct answer is always yes that is what being a democracy is all about."

And that’s why democracy is flawed.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Isn't intelligence about having original thoughts rather than regurgitating other people's ideas? Just a thought. "

Ta-bloody-da! Nail on the head

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"And before you say ‘Well you voice yours, lol !’ I’m way ahead of you.

The problem with the internet is it gives uninformed idiots a voice and now we have brexit. Thoughts please, but no stupid ones !

Define stupid "

Really ?!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Everyone is entitled to an opinion whether you, I or everyone agrees with it or not... "

Yes 100%

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Do you find people on here actually try to sound more intelligent than they actually are...

Some certainly do. I can think of one in particular.

...and argue about politics which for me should not be allowed on a swingers forum...

I know. How dare grown adults talk about things that interest them on a forum designed to discuss pretty much anything.

...it should be left for all the boring old farts in parliament to bang there gums about

Right. You know that that gum-banging can lead to things that have a massive impact on your day to day life, don’t you? And that we get to decide who does the gum-banging? And that we can do that better if we’re better informed? And that one great way to become better informed is to discuss things?

just my opinion it bores the life out of me and I’m sure there’s a forum on here just for boring old farts to discuss brexit etc etc

There is. The politics forum.

I thought there was but I wouldn’t know as I don’t particularly take an interest in it I know it’s a disgrace ps I find football a tad boring as well omg what’s wrong with me am I normal "

Wtf?!! You know you're supposed to have an orgasm any time brexit is mentioned

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Everyone is entitled to an opinion whether you, I or everyone agrees with it or not...

Yes 100%"

Yes, but you can’t tell a stupid person it is wrong even with fact based logic, cause they only hear what they want.

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By *arlomaleMan  over a year ago

darlington


"Do you find people on here actually try to sound more intelligent than they actually are...

Some certainly do. I can think of one in particular.

...and argue about politics which for me should not be allowed on a swingers forum...

I know. How dare grown adults talk about things that interest them on a forum designed to discuss pretty much anything.

...it should be left for all the boring old farts in parliament to bang there gums about

Right. You know that that gum-banging can lead to things that have a massive impact on your day to day life, don’t you? And that we get to decide who does the gum-banging? And that we can do that better if we’re better informed? And that one great way to become better informed is to discuss things?

just my opinion it bores the life out of me and I’m sure there’s a forum on here just for boring old farts to discuss brexit etc etc

There is. The politics forum.

I thought there was but I wouldn’t know as I don’t particularly take an interest in it I know it’s a disgrace ps I find football a tad boring as well omg what’s wrong with me am I normal

Wtf?!! You know you're supposed to have an orgasm any time brexit is mentioned "

i know how very dare I

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


" post modernists.

How much post modernism philosophy or literature have you read?

What do you want a list of books ?

Something that indicates you have the first clue what you're talking about? "

I would but it would be like playing chess with a pigeon for me.

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By *olgateMan  over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular

If stupid people weren’t allowed to voice their opinions, how would we recognise them?

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By *he Mac LassWoman  over a year ago

Hefty Hideaway

I like the phrase ‘I neither have the time nor the crayons to explain this to you’

Everyone has a voice and is entitled to use it. People tend to target people as stupid when they disagree with them. It starts when we’re toddlers.

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By *arlomaleMan  over a year ago

darlington


"If stupid people weren’t allowed to voice their opinions, how would we recognise them?"
we normally wear big pointy hats with a big d on

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I was born to chat shit

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I’ve not said anything in the last 3 hours

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By *hetalkingstoveMan  over a year ago

London


" post modernists.

How much post modernism philosophy or literature have you read?

What do you want a list of books ?

Something that indicates you have the first clue what you're talking about?

I would but it would be like playing chess with a pigeon for me."

You mean it would end in a humiliating defeat for you? Yes, probably.

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By *hubnwife_36dd_ukCouple  over a year ago

chester


"And before you say ‘Well you voice yours, lol !’ I’m way ahead of you.

The problem with the internet is it gives uninformed idiots a voice and now we have brexit. Thoughts please, but no stupid ones !

That's rather harsh. So 17 million british voters are dumb and uninformed?

Getting my popcorn for this one "

Dominic Cummins was quite happy to brag about how many of them he netted with lies.

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By *lbert_shlossedMan  over a year ago

Manchester


"I like the phrase ‘I neither have the time nor the crayons to explain this to you’

Everyone has a voice and is entitled to use it. People tend to target people as stupid when they disagree with them. It starts when we’re toddlers. "

.

Ha, that's a good one .

I blame social media, those on the most seem the most hysterical on both sides.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I like the phrase ‘I neither have the time nor the crayons to explain this to you’

Everyone has a voice and is entitled to use it. People tend to target people as stupid when they disagree with them. It starts when we’re toddlers. .

Ha, that's a good one .

I blame social media & brexit, those on the most seem the most hysterical on both sides.

"

FTFY

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By *rsTrellisWoman  over a year ago

Cambridge


"You so need to get laid !

I’m doing fine in that department, thanks. Not that it’s any of your business.

*as he looks at right hand and winks*"

From memory, when Psylocke and I met Oatcake for a mindblowingly hot FMF threesome yesterday, we used our right hands, and our left hands and our mouths.

The veris are on our profiles if you’d like to check.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


" post modernists.

How much post modernism philosophy or literature have you read?

What do you want a list of books ?

Something that indicates you have the first clue what you're talking about?

I would but it would be like playing chess with a pigeon for me.

You mean it would end in a humiliating defeat for you? Yes, probably. "

Well done, for not knowing the pigeon chess analogy. Google it and you’ll get my point.

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By *xtrafun4youMan  over a year ago

Dunstable


"Everyone should be entitled to voice their opinion. Whether Brexit should have been decided on by public vote is a different matter."
it was!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

The problem with dead people is, they don't always know they're dead.

Its the same with stupid people

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By *he Secret Tea PartyCouple  over a year ago

London

When I saw the title "Should stupid people be allowed to voice THERE opinion ?" I thought should stupid people be allowed to start forum posts about stupid people? ()

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"When I saw the title "Should stupid people be allowed to voice THERE opinion ?" I thought should stupid people be allowed to start forum posts about stupid people? ()

"

Haha that made me

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By *hetalkingstoveMan  over a year ago

London


" post modernists.

How much post modernism philosophy or literature have you read?

What do you want a list of books ?

Something that indicates you have the first clue what you're talking about?

I would but it would be like playing chess with a pigeon for me.

You mean it would end in a humiliating defeat for you? Yes, probably.

Well done, for not knowing the pigeon chess analogy. Google it and you’ll get my point. "

I know it. I was merely suggesting that you'd still manage to lose to a pigeon.

But please feel free to prove me wrong with how much you know about postmodernism.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"And before you say ‘Well you voice yours, lol !’ I’m way ahead of you.

The problem with the internet is it gives uninformed idiots a voice and now we have brexit. Thoughts please, but no stupid ones !"

Like your uninformed pov re factors of obesity?

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By *riefcase_WankerMan  over a year ago

Milton Keynes


"

And yet gets himself locked up , knowing full well he was in breach of his previous misdemeanors and that it would happen if he did what he did .

That’s not someone who’s not as dumb as he acts is it ?

I watched a few of his you tube videos recently and I don’t think he’s worth listening to . And that’s my opinion "

No such thing as bad publicity?

I think he knows full well what he's doing, and it slots in nicely with his martyred image that he's trying to cultivate, whilst acting as the last bastion of free speech...

Don't get me wrong - I detest the man and everything he stands for, but that's not to say I can't recognise what he is...which is a moderately accomplished self-publicist

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"And who gets to decide who is stupid?

Intelligent people with fact based evidence. "

Uninformed does not equate to stupidity but ignorance, ie lacking knowledge.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


" post modernists.

How much post modernism philosophy or literature have you read?

What do you want a list of books ?

Something that indicates you have the first clue what you're talking about?

I would but it would be like playing chess with a pigeon for me.

You mean it would end in a humiliating defeat for you? Yes, probably.

Well done, for not knowing the pigeon chess analogy. Google it and you’ll get my point.

I know it. I was merely suggesting that you'd still manage to lose to a pigeon.

But please feel free to prove me wrong with how much you know about postmodernism. "

Haha, it’s actually totally lost on you what the actually meaning is, which is ironic cause you’ve just shown what it means by not getting it. Don’t worry that will be over your head to, but you can tell everyone you won. Now toodle pip !

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex


"There's a saying that roughly translates to:-

"If you want the simplest solution, ask the simplest person"

and from Desiderata:-

"Speak your truth quietly and clearly, and listen to others, even the dull and ignorant; they too have their story."

I've found in life that even a person may appear to be "stupid", their minds work differently and they can apply an oblique approach to life and problems that I sometimes admire. "Ignorance is bliss" is probably sometimes a good thing, for some.

I agree with that. Most people have something of worth to say.

To be fair that’s a very egalitarian approach .

I haven’t heard Tommy Robinson say anything worthwhile , nor from recent history , Peter Sutcliffe , Myra Hindley , Ian Brady , etc......

On a more personal level there are plenty of people I’ve interacted with who have never said a thing that I feel,is worth listening too ."

Yes, that's why I said "most"

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By *hetalkingstoveMan  over a year ago

London


" post modernists.

How much post modernism philosophy or literature have you read?

What do you want a list of books ?

Something that indicates you have the first clue what you're talking about?

I would but it would be like playing chess with a pigeon for me.

You mean it would end in a humiliating defeat for you? Yes, probably.

Well done, for not knowing the pigeon chess analogy. Google it and you’ll get my point.

I know it. I was merely suggesting that you'd still manage to lose to a pigeon.

But please feel free to prove me wrong with how much you know about postmodernism.

Haha, it’s actually totally lost on you what the actually meaning is, which is ironic cause you’ve just shown what it means by not getting it. Don’t worry that will be over your head to, but you can tell everyone you won. Now toodle pip ! "

I perfectly understand the meaning. The point is that you're so far out of your depth that the analogy doesn't work for someone like you.

But please do change the subject and run away rather than back up your claims. It's very telling.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


" post modernists.

How much post modernism philosophy or literature have you read?

What do you want a list of books ?

Something that indicates you have the first clue what you're talking about?

I would but it would be like playing chess with a pigeon for me.

You mean it would end in a humiliating defeat for you? Yes, probably.

Well done, for not knowing the pigeon chess analogy. Google it and you’ll get my point.

I know it. I was merely suggesting that you'd still manage to lose to a pigeon.

But please feel free to prove me wrong with how much you know about postmodernism.

Haha, it’s actually totally lost on you what the actually meaning is, which is ironic cause you’ve just shown what it means by not getting it. Don’t worry that will be over your head to, but you can tell everyone you won. Now toodle pip !

I perfectly understand the meaning. The point is that you're so far out of your depth that the analogy doesn't work for someone like you.

But please do change the subject and run away rather than back up your claims. It's very telling. "

Calling all units, calling all units. I’m gonna need back up, this guy is my intellectual superior cause he wears glasses and I’m out of my depth. Over.

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By *hetalkingstoveMan  over a year ago

London


" post modernists.

How much post modernism philosophy or literature have you read?

What do you want a list of books ?

Something that indicates you have the first clue what you're talking about?

I would but it would be like playing chess with a pigeon for me.

You mean it would end in a humiliating defeat for you? Yes, probably.

Well done, for not knowing the pigeon chess analogy. Google it and you’ll get my point.

I know it. I was merely suggesting that you'd still manage to lose to a pigeon.

But please feel free to prove me wrong with how much you know about postmodernism.

Haha, it’s actually totally lost on you what the actually meaning is, which is ironic cause you’ve just shown what it means by not getting it. Don’t worry that will be over your head to, but you can tell everyone you won. Now toodle pip !

I perfectly understand the meaning. The point is that you're so far out of your depth that the analogy doesn't work for someone like you.

But please do change the subject and run away rather than back up your claims. It's very telling.

Calling all units, calling all units. I’m gonna need back up, this guy is my intellectual superior cause he wears glasses and I’m out of my depth. Over. "

Yep, keep on blabbering about nothing rather than demonstrate you know what you're talking about on the actual subject you were challenged on.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" post modernists.

How much post modernism philosophy or literature have you read?

What do you want a list of books ?

Something that indicates you have the first clue what you're talking about?

I would but it would be like playing chess with a pigeon for me.

You mean it would end in a humiliating defeat for you? Yes, probably.

Well done, for not knowing the pigeon chess analogy. Google it and you’ll get my point.

I know it. I was merely suggesting that you'd still manage to lose to a pigeon.

But please feel free to prove me wrong with how much you know about postmodernism.

Haha, it’s actually totally lost on you what the actually meaning is, which is ironic cause you’ve just shown what it means by not getting it. Don’t worry that will be over your head to, but you can tell everyone you won. Now toodle pip !

I perfectly understand the meaning. The point is that you're so far out of your depth that the analogy doesn't work for someone like you.

But please do change the subject and run away rather than back up your claims. It's very telling.

Calling all units, calling all units. I’m gonna need back up, this guy is my intellectual superior cause he wears glasses and I’m out of my depth. Over. "

Cchhhh cccchhhhh back up required! Over! Damn, why can’t we post gifs on here?

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


" post modernists.

How much post modernism philosophy or literature have you read?

What do you want a list of books ?

Something that indicates you have the first clue what you're talking about?

I would but it would be like playing chess with a pigeon for me.

You mean it would end in a humiliating defeat for you? Yes, probably.

Well done, for not knowing the pigeon chess analogy. Google it and you’ll get my point.

I know it. I was merely suggesting that you'd still manage to lose to a pigeon.

But please feel free to prove me wrong with how much you know about postmodernism.

Haha, it’s actually totally lost on you what the actually meaning is, which is ironic cause you’ve just shown what it means by not getting it. Don’t worry that will be over your head to, but you can tell everyone you won. Now toodle pip !

I perfectly understand the meaning. The point is that you're so far out of your depth that the analogy doesn't work for someone like you.

But please do change the subject and run away rather than back up your claims. It's very telling.

Calling all units, calling all units. I’m gonna need back up, this guy is my intellectual superior cause he wears glasses and I’m out of my depth. Over.

Yep, keep on blabbering about nothing rather than demonstrate you know what you're talking about on the actual subject you were challenged on. "

Tell me what you need to know and i will impart my vast wisdom ?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" post modernists.

How much post modernism philosophy or literature have you read?

What do you want a list of books ?

Something that indicates you have the first clue what you're talking about?

I would but it would be like playing chess with a pigeon for me.

You mean it would end in a humiliating defeat for you? Yes, probably.

Well done, for not knowing the pigeon chess analogy. Google it and you’ll get my point.

I know it. I was merely suggesting that you'd still manage to lose to a pigeon.

But please feel free to prove me wrong with how much you know about postmodernism.

Haha, it’s actually totally lost on you what the actually meaning is, which is ironic cause you’ve just shown what it means by not getting it. Don’t worry that will be over your head to, but you can tell everyone you won. Now toodle pip !

I perfectly understand the meaning. The point is that you're so far out of your depth that the analogy doesn't work for someone like you.

But please do change the subject and run away rather than back up your claims. It's very telling.

Calling all units, calling all units. I’m gonna need back up, this guy is my intellectual superior cause he wears glasses and I’m out of my depth. Over.

Yep, keep on blabbering about nothing rather than demonstrate you know what you're talking about on the actual subject you were challenged on. "

It’s called a sense of humour, you should try one out. They’re fun.

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By *thwalescplCouple  over a year ago

brecon


"Smart people know you don't have to listen to stupid people's opinion. "

I disagree, I think smart people should listen to EVERYONE'S opinion.

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By *hetalkingstoveMan  over a year ago

London


"

Tell me what you need to know and i will impart my vast wisdom ?"

What you understand the ideas of postmodernism to be, where you've got that understanding from, and what you think makes those ideas idiotic.

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By *hetalkingstoveMan  over a year ago

London


"

It’s called a sense of humour, you should try one out. They’re fun."

Some people are very easily pleased.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Smart people know you don't have to listen to stupid people's opinion.

I disagree, I think smart people should listen to EVERYONE'S opinion."

When decision-making, it is good to hear everyone's pov.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


" post modernists.

How much post modernism philosophy or literature have you read?

What do you want a list of books ?

Something that indicates you have the first clue what you're talking about?

I would but it would be like playing chess with a pigeon for me.

You mean it would end in a humiliating defeat for you? Yes, probably.

Well done, for not knowing the pigeon chess analogy. Google it and you’ll get my point.

I know it. I was merely suggesting that you'd still manage to lose to a pigeon.

But please feel free to prove me wrong with how much you know about postmodernism.

Haha, it’s actually totally lost on you what the actually meaning is, which is ironic cause you’ve just shown what it means by not getting it. Don’t worry that will be over your head to, but you can tell everyone you won. Now toodle pip !

I perfectly understand the meaning. The point is that you're so far out of your depth that the analogy doesn't work for someone like you.

But please do change the subject and run away rather than back up your claims. It's very telling.

Calling all units, calling all units. I’m gonna need back up, this guy is my intellectual superior cause he wears glasses and I’m out of my depth. Over.

Yep, keep on blabbering about nothing rather than demonstrate you know what you're talking about on the actual subject you were challenged on.

It’s called a sense of humour, you should try one out. They’re fun."

Hey, are you going to bring cake round when you come over to Mine and we get hot and heavy talking about post modernism philosophy ?

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"

It’s called a sense of humour, you should try one out. They’re fun.

Some people are very easily pleased. "

Oh she is, believe me she is.

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By *andydave28Man  over a year ago

weston super mare

Yep brexit proved that lol

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By *loswingersCouple  over a year ago

Gloucester


"There's a saying that roughly translates to:-

"If you want the simplest solution, ask the simplest person"

and from Desiderata:-

"Speak your truth quietly and clearly, and listen to others, even the dull and ignorant; they too have their story."

I've found in life that even a person may appear to be "stupid", their minds work differently and they can apply an oblique approach to life and problems that I sometimes admire. "Ignorance is bliss" is probably sometimes a good thing, for some.

I agree with that. Most people have something of worth to say.

To be fair that’s a very egalitarian approach .

I haven’t heard Tommy Robinson say anything worthwhile , nor from recent history , Peter Sutcliffe , Myra Hindley , Ian Brady , etc......

On a more personal level there are plenty of people I’ve interacted with who have never said a thing that I feel,is worth listening too .

Yes, that's why I said "most" "

You did indeed

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I quite like postmodern philosophy Was that the right thing to say at that point?

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By *andydave28Man  over a year ago

weston super mare

Politics and sex dangerous combination me thinks

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By *riefcase_WankerMan  over a year ago

Milton Keynes


"Politics and sex dangerous combination me thinks "

Definitely...those politicians are a nefarious bunch...they'll fuck anyone in the arse - kids, the elderly, the disabled...and worst of all, none of them even want it!

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"I quite like postmodern philosophy Was that the right thing to say at that point? "

Postmodernism is actually grotesque and it is why we’ve arrived at the situation we are now, with fake news etc

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I am a firm believe on removing safety notices off of heavy machinery. The likes of wood chippers for example.

If your so stupid that you place a body part in one especially when it is on then you should be removed from the gene pool

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yep brexit proved that lol "
Brexit is a bust for the people who voted yes because they not going to get what they voted for in the end it was all lies.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Yes as I am one of those stupid people be allowed to voice

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By *endoverhappyMan  over a year ago

Darlington


"And before you say ‘Well you voice yours, lol !’ I’m way ahead of you.

The problem with the internet is it gives uninformed idiots a voice and now we have brexit. Thoughts please, but no stupid ones !"

Might as well seen as though the British government and councils have been doing it for years

ALSO I think the site create some cut backs more charges and pointless jobs that are not needed

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By *hetalkingstoveMan  over a year ago

London


"I quite like postmodern philosophy Was that the right thing to say at that point? "

Probably because you actually know something about it, and aren't just repeating what you've heard other people say online.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I quite like postmodern philosophy Was that the right thing to say at that point?

Postmodernism is actually grotesque and it is why we’ve arrived at the situation we are now, with fake news etc "

I disagree. I think that's got more to do with neoconservatism and profiling technology platforms. The core problem with postmodernism from my point of view is that it's right but we no longer want it to be. We need some clever clog to show us where it's legitimate wrong. So far no one has imo

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Yep all should have one get it off your chest . Unless wife says shut the fuck up lol

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By *lbert_shlossedMan  over a year ago

Manchester


"There's a saying that roughly translates to:-

"If you want the simplest solution, ask the simplest person"

and from Desiderata:-

"Speak your truth quietly and clearly, and listen to others, even the dull and ignorant; they too have their story."

I've found in life that even a person may appear to be "stupid", their minds work differently and they can apply an oblique approach to life and problems that I sometimes admire. "Ignorance is bliss" is probably sometimes a good thing, for some.

I agree with that. Most people have something of worth to say.

To be fair that’s a very egalitarian approach .

I haven’t heard Tommy Robinson say anything worthwhile , nor from recent history , Peter Sutcliffe , Myra Hindley , Ian Brady , etc......

On a more personal level there are plenty of people I’ve interacted with who have never said a thing that I feel,is worth listening too ."

.

I like the way you put Tommy Robinson in with child murderers and a serial killer!.

I haven't heard those prolific motorway speeders saying anything interesting much like the Nazis who ran the extermination camps.

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By *r and mrs sanddancerCouple  over a year ago

BOLDON COLLIERY

“Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.”

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By *hetalkingstoveMan  over a year ago

London


"I quite like postmodern philosophy Was that the right thing to say at that point?

Postmodernism is actually grotesque and it is why we’ve arrived at the situation we are now, with fake news etc "

Not at all. One of the key parts of postmodernism is questioning where claims about truth come from, and the bias/history/culture of the people making the claims. A postmodernist would dissect 'fake news', not wave it through.

It's not at all about just accepting any claim at all as true, which seems to be the distorted version being passed around certain parts of the Internet.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"I quite like postmodern philosophy Was that the right thing to say at that point?

Postmodernism is actually grotesque and it is why we’ve arrived at the situation we are now, with fake news etc

I disagree. I think that's got more to do with neoconservatism and profiling technology platforms. The core problem with postmodernism from my point of view is that it's right but we no longer want it to be. We need some clever clog to show us where it's legitimate wrong. So far no one has imo "

Bloody Marxist. Postmodernism pits the oppressors against the oppressed and that opened up the avenue of any number of groups, it’s not about economics anymore it’s about power. Everything to the postmodernists is about power, that’s all they are interested in. So there is no logic, no dialogue, no discussions etc

So now we’ve seen the rapid expansion of identity politics, so now group identity is paramount, so they’ve got control in universities etc

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

A girl wakes up after a one-night-stand only to see the man she had sex with last night standing up, completely naked, with his penis resting on a radiator. Perplexed she asks : "What are you doing there... ?", to which he replies: **"I am warming your breakfast love !

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I quite like postmodern philosophy Was that the right thing to say at that point?

Postmodernism is actually grotesque and it is why we’ve arrived at the situation we are now, with fake news etc

I disagree. I think that's got more to do with neoconservatism and profiling technology platforms. The core problem with postmodernism from my point of view is that it's right but we no longer want it to be. We need some clever clog to show us where it's legitimate wrong. So far no one has imo

Bloody Marxist. Postmodernism pits the oppressors against the oppressed and that opened up the avenue of any number of groups, it’s not about economics anymore it’s about power. Everything to the postmodernists is about power, that’s all they are interested in. So there is no logic, no dialogue, no discussions etc

So now we’ve seen the rapid expansion of identity politics, so now group identity is paramount, so they’ve got control in universities etc "

Been watching too many Jordan Peterson videos on YouTube have we?

Honestly though dude it's really difficult to distill what of what you've just written is about postmodernism. Maybe I have too limited a knowledge of it. All I know is that I still really like what the post structuralists had to say and that I consider it a requisite of progress and advancement to plough through that, to take it on and win, rather than to just pretend it never happened... that's the impulse, that impulse of shirking the experts, that gets us to fake news imo

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By *riefcase_WankerMan  over a year ago

Milton Keynes


"Bloody Marxist. Postmodernism pits the oppressors against the oppressed and that opened up the avenue of any number of groups, it’s not about economics anymore it’s about power. Everything to the postmodernists is about power, that’s all they are interested in. So there is no logic, no dialogue, no discussions etc

So now we’ve seen the rapid expansion of identity politics, so now group identity is paramount, so they’ve got control in universities etc "

It is about economics; it's just that throughout the vast majority of our academic and political institutions and society at large, there is an utterly homogenous monoculture that has become all-pervasive, as though neoclassical economics were the only true economics.

In fact, not even the only true economics - the only economics full stop. We need to be giving far more time and space to the heterodox schools

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"I quite like postmodern philosophy Was that the right thing to say at that point?

Postmodernism is actually grotesque and it is why we’ve arrived at the situation we are now, with fake news etc

I disagree. I think that's got more to do with neoconservatism and profiling technology platforms. The core problem with postmodernism from my point of view is that it's right but we no longer want it to be. We need some clever clog to show us where it's legitimate wrong. So far no one has imo

Bloody Marxist. Postmodernism pits the oppressors against the oppressed and that opened up the avenue of any number of groups, it’s not about economics anymore it’s about power. Everything to the postmodernists is about power, that’s all they are interested in. So there is no logic, no dialogue, no discussions etc

So now we’ve seen the rapid expansion of identity politics, so now group identity is paramount, so they’ve got control in universities etc

Been watching too many Jordan Peterson videos on YouTube have we?

Honestly though dude it's really difficult to distill what of what you've just written is about postmodernism. Maybe I have too limited a knowledge of it. All I know is that I still really like what the post structuralists had to say and that I consider it a requisite of progress and advancement to plough through that, to take it on and win, rather than to just pretend it never happened... that's the impulse, that impulse of shirking the experts, that gets us to fake news imo"

Abort mission Dave, I repeat abort mission, we’ve been rumbled !

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By *loswingersCouple  over a year ago

Gloucester


"There's a saying that roughly translates to:-

"If you want the simplest solution, ask the simplest person"

and from Desiderata:-

"Speak your truth quietly and clearly, and listen to others, even the dull and ignorant; they too have their story."

I've found in life that even a person may appear to be "stupid", their minds work differently and they can apply an oblique approach to life and problems that I sometimes admire. "Ignorance is bliss" is probably sometimes a good thing, for some.

I agree with that. Most people have something of worth to say.

To be fair that’s a very egalitarian approach .

I haven’t heard Tommy Robinson say anything worthwhile , nor from recent history , Peter Sutcliffe , Myra Hindley , Ian Brady , etc......

On a more personal level there are plenty of people I’ve interacted with who have never said a thing that I feel,is worth listening too ..

I like the way you put Tommy Robinson in with child murderers and a serial killer!.

I haven't heard those prolific motorway speeders saying anything interesting much like the Nazis who ran the extermination camps.

"

Nor me

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By *andydave28Man  over a year ago

weston super mare

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Even the dull and ignorant they have their story too....

Desiderata Max Erhmann

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Nothing in this world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscience stupidity

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