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"And before you say ‘Well you voice yours, lol !’ I’m way ahead of you. The problem with the internet is it gives uninformed idiots a voice and now we have brexit. Thoughts please, but no stupid ones !" That's rather harsh. So 17 million british voters are dumb and uninformed? Getting my popcorn for this one | |||
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"And who gets to decide who is stupid?" The opinion of the person judging them!! | |||
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"And who gets to decide who is stupid?" it takes one to know another | |||
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"And who gets to decide who is stupid?" Intelligent people with fact based evidence. | |||
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"Opinions are like arse holes: Everyone has one, but not everyone accepts that they can be explored " Or opinions are like arseholes, you’ve only got one. | |||
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"And who gets to decide who is stupid?it takes one to know another " That’s the problem, stupid people don’t know there stupid and that’s why they’re dangerous and need to be stopped. | |||
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"And before you say ‘Well you voice yours, lol !’ I’m way ahead of you. The problem with the internet is it gives uninformed idiots a voice and now we have brexit. Thoughts please, but no stupid ones !" It also informs the uninformed idiots (to a degree) so they they may garner the knowledge that they are lacking and thus enable them to (hopefully) become more competent at whatever it is they may be incompetant at. howzat? | |||
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"Everyone is entitled to an opinion whether you, I or everyone agrees with it or not... " I agree totally | |||
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"Opinions are like arse holes: Everyone has one, but not everyone accepts that they can be explored " Opinions are like orgasms - mine's more important and I don't really care if you have one | |||
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"Everyone should be entitled to voice their opinion. Whether Brexit should have been decided on by public vote is a different matter." Do you think Cameron should have called a referendum on it, and should be have said it was only a referendum to get an idea of how people were feeling, not a cast iron vote in or out? | |||
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"And before you say ‘Well you voice yours, lol !’ I’m way ahead of you. The problem with the internet is it gives uninformed idiots a voice and now we have brexit. Thoughts please, but no stupid ones ! It also informs the uninformed idiots (to a degree) so they they may garner the knowledge that they are lacking and thus enable them to (hopefully) become more competent at whatever it is they may be incompetant at. howzat?" Doesn’t work on my spelling though! | |||
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"And before you say ‘Well you voice yours, lol !’ I’m way ahead of you. The problem with the internet is it gives uninformed idiots a voice and now we have brexit. Thoughts please, but no stupid ones ! That's rather harsh. So 17 million british voters are dumb and uninformed? Getting my popcorn for this one " Huge underestimate...in a country of about 65 million people, probably about double what you're suggesting... | |||
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"I could argue that way before the Internet, when very few had a voice, we had 2 World wars and people died in their hundreds of thousands ... " And people tried to fly with feathers on their arms. | |||
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"How do we (the people) define what an idiot is?" Generally it's 'people who disagree with me' | |||
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"How do we (the people) define what an idiot is?" Someone who believes the Earth is flat is a good starting point and post modernists. | |||
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"How do we (the people) define what an idiot is? Someone who believes the Earth is flat is a good starting point and post modernists." I think a good working definition might be anyone that refuses to change their mind even when the evidence completely negates their beliefs | |||
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"And before you say ‘Well you voice yours, lol !’ I’m way ahead of you. The problem with the internet is it gives uninformed idiots a voice and now we have brexit. Thoughts please, but no stupid ones !" No they shouldn’t! They shouldn’t be allowed to vote either ..... or reproduce! But who decides who’s stupid? | |||
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"I could argue that way before the Internet, when very few had a voice, we had 2 World wars and people died in their hundreds of thousands ... And people tried to fly with feathers on their arms." Just don't fly to close to the Sun | |||
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" post modernists." How much post modernism philosophy or literature have you read? | |||
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"Teacher's teach you how to be stupid" No, bad parents do. | |||
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"And who gets to decide who is stupid?it takes one to know another That’s the problem, stupid people don’t know there stupid and that’s why they’re dangerous and need to be stopped. " I know I'm stupid, people tell me all the time. I should research everything to the edge of the Internet before I post or speak. But I know they still won't be happy. What should I do? | |||
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" post modernists. How much post modernism philosophy or literature have you read? " What do you want a list of books ? | |||
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" post modernists. How much post modernism philosophy or literature have you read? What do you want a list of books ?" Something that indicates you have the first clue what you're talking about? | |||
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"This is why entrance exams for polling stations needs to be a thing... I know it sounds a bit fascisty, but bear with me - it's not an intelligence test, stupid people deserve a vote too. What it is, is a multiple choice test that looks at knowledge of objective, undisputed information that is widely available in the public sphere. Things like "what percentage of the population is Muslim" or "how much of the national budget, as a proportion of GDP, is spent on Jobseekers Allowance" or "what proportion of the welfare bill goes towards pensions" Score 100% you get a full vote. 50% half a vote. 0% sorry, fuck off and stick to X-Factor, this is too important for the likes of you..." Have you considered moving to North Korea? | |||
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"And before you say ‘Well you voice yours, lol !’ I’m way ahead of you. The problem with the internet is it gives uninformed idiots a voice and now we have brexit. Thoughts please, but no stupid ones ! That's rather harsh. So 17 million british voters are dumb and uninformed? Getting my popcorn for this one Huge underestimate...in a country of about 65 million people, probably about double what you're suggesting..." Those were the official stats. Don't forget the abstention rate. | |||
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"Teacher's teach you how to be stupid No, bad parents do." they both can | |||
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"Everyone is entitled to an opinion. Should the opinion of someone uninformed be given the same weight as that of an expert? Of course not. The problem with opinions right now is the least informed shout the loudest and cover their ears." This. Sadly, then those less informed then follow those who are good sounding I formed and lead us to worse places. Meanwhile, those with knowledge and facts are judged as geeks and seen as not thinking out of the box. Sadly I think popular opinion now forms much of what we do, rather than educated, well researched facts... Rant over! | |||
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"Teacher's teach you how to be stupid" What an odd comment. | |||
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"Brexit's going well." Yes, David Davis said so, so it must be! Oh no... Wait.. He quit didn't he, along with all the other stupid people who pursuaded so many to vote leave, without furnishing them with the facts to make an i formed choice. | |||
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"Everyone is entitled to an opinion whether you, I or everyone agrees with it or not... " Exactly. | |||
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"This is why entrance exams for polling stations needs to be a thing... I know it sounds a bit fascisty, but bear with me - it's not an intelligence test, stupid people deserve a vote too. What it is, is a multiple choice test that looks at knowledge of objective, undisputed information that is widely available in the public sphere. Things like "what percentage of the population is Muslim" or "how much of the national budget, as a proportion of GDP, is spent on Jobseekers Allowance" or "what proportion of the welfare bill goes towards pensions" Score 100% you get a full vote. 50% half a vote. 0% sorry, fuck off and stick to X-Factor, this is too important for the likes of you... Have you considered moving to North Korea? " Hey, everybody still gets to turn up and vote, they get the participation prize...it just calculates how informed they are and weights their vote accordingly... | |||
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"And before you say ‘Well you voice yours, lol !’ I’m way ahead of you. The problem with the internet is it gives uninformed idiots a voice and now we have brexit. Thoughts please, but no stupid ones ! That's rather harsh. So 17 million british voters are dumb and uninformed? Getting my popcorn for this one Huge underestimate...in a country of about 65 million people, probably about double what you're suggesting... Those were the official stats. Don't forget the abstention rate." I can't remember if it was Churchill, some other political figure, or some random...but the jist is there: Think about how stupid the average person is, and then consider that half the population are even stupider than that... | |||
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"Everyone is entitled to an opinion whether you, I or everyone agrees with it or not... Exactly. " Yeah, that’s the major flaw in democracy | |||
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"Everyone is entitled to an opinion whether you, I or everyone agrees with it or not... Exactly. Yeah, that’s the major flaw in democracy " Somewhat ironic that those we credit as the godfathers of democracy were so dismissive of it | |||
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"There's a saying that roughly translates to:- "If you want the simplest solution, ask the simplest person" and from Desiderata:- "Speak your truth quietly and clearly, and listen to others, even the dull and ignorant; they too have their story." I've found in life that even a person may appear to be "stupid", their minds work differently and they can apply an oblique approach to life and problems that I sometimes admire. "Ignorance is bliss" is probably sometimes a good thing, for some." I agree with that. Most people have something of worth to say. | |||
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"And who gets to decide who is stupid? Intelligent people with fact based evidence. " When they debate in here , you tend to come in on your scooter , realise there is an intelligent debate going on , and scoot back out again | |||
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"There's a saying that roughly translates to:- "If you want the simplest solution, ask the simplest person" and from Desiderata:- "Speak your truth quietly and clearly, and listen to others, even the dull and ignorant; they too have their story." I've found in life that even a person may appear to be "stupid", their minds work differently and they can apply an oblique approach to life and problems that I sometimes admire. "Ignorance is bliss" is probably sometimes a good thing, for some." The problem with stupid people is they’re never wrong, they can’t empathise with the other person and understand their argument. They won’t budge on their position, regardless of any valid arguments brought to them. They overestimate there skills and underestimate the competence of others. | |||
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"And who gets to decide who is stupid? Intelligent people with fact based evidence. When they debate in here , you tend to come in on your scooter , realise there is an intelligent debate going on , and scoot back out again " Haha, scooter is parked up at the moment ! | |||
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"There's a saying that roughly translates to:- "If you want the simplest solution, ask the simplest person" and from Desiderata:- "Speak your truth quietly and clearly, and listen to others, even the dull and ignorant; they too have their story." I've found in life that even a person may appear to be "stupid", their minds work differently and they can apply an oblique approach to life and problems that I sometimes admire. "Ignorance is bliss" is probably sometimes a good thing, for some. I agree with that. Most people have something of worth to say. " To be fair that’s a very egalitarian approach . I haven’t heard Tommy Robinson say anything worthwhile , nor from recent history , Peter Sutcliffe , Myra Hindley , Ian Brady , etc...... On a more personal level there are plenty of people I’ve interacted with who have never said a thing that I feel,is worth listening too . | |||
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"There's a saying that roughly translates to:- "If you want the simplest solution, ask the simplest person" and from Desiderata:- "Speak your truth quietly and clearly, and listen to others, even the dull and ignorant; they too have their story." I've found in life that even a person may appear to be "stupid", their minds work differently and they can apply an oblique approach to life and problems that I sometimes admire. "Ignorance is bliss" is probably sometimes a good thing, for some. The problem with stupid people is they’re never wrong, they can’t empathise with the other person and understand their argument. They won’t budge on their position, regardless of any valid arguments brought to them. They overestimate there skills and underestimate the competence of others. " Dunning Kruger effect. It's easier to argue against an intelligent person than a stupid one. It's a bit like table tennis. It's much easier to play against someone really good | |||
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"Everyone is entitled to an opinion whether you, I or everyone agrees with it or not... Exactly. Yeah, that’s the major flaw in democracy " I totally agree with this . People who are clueless and make absolutely no contribution to society , have as much right to influence major decisions in the society that they do nothing to further . That’s a massive flaw in our democracy which makes society what it is . | |||
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". To be fair that’s a very egalitarian approach . I haven’t heard Tommy Robinson say anything worthwhile , nor from recent history , Peter Sutcliffe , Myra Hindley , Ian Brady , etc...... On a more personal level there are plenty of people I’ve interacted with who have never said a thing that I feel,is worth listening too ." In all fairness, if you watch 'Tommy' giving an address to the Oxford Union, he actually presents quite a considered, nuanced argument that I found myself surprisingly agreeing with the majority of what he was saying. He's not as dumb as he acts. He knows how to pitch himself to his audience | |||
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"There's a saying that roughly translates to:- "If you want the simplest solution, ask the simplest person" and from Desiderata:- "Speak your truth quietly and clearly, and listen to others, even the dull and ignorant; they too have their story." I've found in life that even a person may appear to be "stupid", their minds work differently and they can apply an oblique approach to life and problems that I sometimes admire. "Ignorance is bliss" is probably sometimes a good thing, for some. The problem with stupid people is they’re never wrong, they can’t empathise with the other person and understand their argument. They won’t budge on their position, regardless of any valid arguments brought to them. They overestimate there skills and underestimate the competence of others. Dunning Kruger effect. It's easier to argue against an intelligent person than a stupid one. It's a bit like table tennis. It's much easier to play against someone really good" It’s like the pigeon chess analogy. | |||
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" I agree with the shared thoughts above that all folk have something worthy to say....but then I read somethings, mostly on Facebook and realise I want to say to the contrary, but know I'll be hung drawn and quartered! Truth is, I reckon we've all said something stupid on the internet? " Yes, but some people are consistent at it. | |||
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". To be fair that’s a very egalitarian approach . I haven’t heard Tommy Robinson say anything worthwhile , nor from recent history , Peter Sutcliffe , Myra Hindley , Ian Brady , etc...... On a more personal level there are plenty of people I’ve interacted with who have never said a thing that I feel,is worth listening too . In all fairness, if you watch 'Tommy' giving an address to the Oxford Union, he actually presents quite a considered, nuanced argument that I found myself surprisingly agreeing with the majority of what he was saying. He's not as dumb as he acts. He knows how to pitch himself to his audience" And yet gets himself locked up , knowing full well he was in breach of his previous misdemeanors and that it would happen if he did what he did . That’s not someone who’s not as dumb as he acts is it ? I watched a few of his you tube videos recently and I don’t think he’s worth listening to . And that’s my opinion | |||
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". To be fair that’s a very egalitarian approach . I haven’t heard Tommy Robinson say anything worthwhile , nor from recent history , Peter Sutcliffe , Myra Hindley , Ian Brady , etc...... On a more personal level there are plenty of people I’ve interacted with who have never said a thing that I feel,is worth listening too . In all fairness, if you watch 'Tommy' giving an address to the Oxford Union, he actually presents quite a considered, nuanced argument that I found myself surprisingly agreeing with the majority of what he was saying. He's not as dumb as he acts. He knows how to pitch himself to his audience And yet gets himself locked up , knowing full well he was in breach of his previous misdemeanors and that it would happen if he did what he did . That’s not someone who’s not as dumb as he acts is it ? I watched a few of his you tube videos recently and I don’t think he’s worth listening to . And that’s my opinion " I believe he allowed himself to be incarcerated in order to stay in the news and ensure that people would rally. We have an unprotected freedom of speech here and all the defense of Robinson and hateful comments cite the fact that we have freedom of speech. It can be withdrawn, topics can be legislated and, in this day of the internet, hosts can censor. | |||
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"I haven't read the thread but I wonder what definition is being used for stupid? Some of the recent posts have been inducing. Was the post stupid or the person who made it? " I asked for a definition. I think stupid is more a physical behaviour characteristic. "Stupidly, he stepped barefoot onto a live train track" kind of thing. | |||
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"And before you say ‘Well you voice yours, lol !’ I’m way ahead of you. The problem with the internet is it gives uninformed idiots a voice and now we have brexit. Thoughts please, but no stupid ones !" But brexits a good thing it keeps foid on my table | |||
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"I haven't read the thread but I wonder what definition is being used for stupid? Some of the recent posts have been inducing. Was the post stupid or the person who made it? I asked for a definition. I think stupid is more a physical behaviour characteristic. "Stupidly, he stepped barefoot onto a live train track" kind of thing. " I am inclined to the lack of common sense and/or intelligence definition. Your example could fit both. So a post that lacks common sense or intelligence could be stupid, I suppose. When it's willful, does it still count? | |||
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"There's a saying that roughly translates to:- "If you want the simplest solution, ask the simplest person" and from Desiderata:- "Speak your truth quietly and clearly, and listen to others, even the dull and ignorant; they too have their story." I've found in life that even a person may appear to be "stupid", their minds work differently and they can apply an oblique approach to life and problems that I sometimes admire. "Ignorance is bliss" is probably sometimes a good thing, for some. The problem with stupid people is they’re never wrong, they can’t empathise with the other person and understand their argument. They won’t budge on their position, regardless of any valid arguments brought to them. They overestimate there skills and underestimate the competence of others. " Like those that know brexit is right or wrong because they are clever and people who disagree are stupid. With not a single lucid fact they haven't read in a pro or against propaganda sheet to back it up Short of personally knowing somebody for some time it is almost impossible to make that judgment. I also know several incredibly intelligent people who I would class as stupid, and a number of people who think they are stupid are farcreom it and trust my life to. Why modern day judging of other people without experience direcrly of them is such a very sad development. I certainly wouldn't class somebody different political views, values or opinions to my own as stupid purely because they held them. However strongly I disagree with their logic or thought processes to get there. Brexit was a very tough choice, and I can see, and could have voted, either way, voting Labour or Conservative I struggle to understand how a sane person sometimes could vote a particular way That doesn't make them stupid. | |||
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"I haven't read the thread but I wonder what definition is being used for stupid? Some of the recent posts have been inducing. Was the post stupid or the person who made it? I asked for a definition. I think stupid is more a physical behaviour characteristic. "Stupidly, he stepped barefoot onto a live train track" kind of thing. I am inclined to the lack of common sense and/or intelligence definition. Your example could fit both. So a post that lacks common sense or intelligence could be stupid, I suppose. When it's willful, does it still count? " I would say no. Stupid denotes to me a lack of awareness. | |||
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"The problem with stupid people is they’re never wrong, they can’t empathise with the other person and understand their argument. They won’t budge on their position, regardless of any valid arguments brought to them. They overestimate there skills and underestimate the competence of others. " In my experience that happens with intelligent debaters too. They won't budge from their position, even when a valid, opposing argument is aired. | |||
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"And before you say ‘Well you voice yours, lol !’ I’m way ahead of you. The problem with the internet is it gives uninformed idiots a voice and now we have brexit. Thoughts please, but no stupid ones ! But brexits a good thing it keeps foid on my table " You need a rich person who can’t read on your table ? | |||
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"Do you find people on here actually try to sound more intelligent than they actually are..." Some certainly do. I can think of one in particular. "...and argue about politics which for me should not be allowed on a swingers forum..." I know. How dare grown adults talk about things that interest them on a forum designed to discuss pretty much anything. "...it should be left for all the boring old farts in parliament to bang there gums about " Right. You know that that gum-banging can lead to things that have a massive impact on your day to day life, don’t you? And that we get to decide who does the gum-banging? And that we can do that better if we’re better informed? And that one great way to become better informed is to discuss things? | |||
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"There's a saying that roughly translates to:- "If you want the simplest solution, ask the simplest person" and from Desiderata:- "Speak your truth quietly and clearly, and listen to others, even the dull and ignorant; they too have their story." I've found in life that even a person may appear to be "stupid", their minds work differently and they can apply an oblique approach to life and problems that I sometimes admire. "Ignorance is bliss" is probably sometimes a good thing, for some. The problem with stupid people is they’re never wrong, they can’t empathise with the other person and understand their argument. They won’t budge on their position, regardless of any valid arguments brought to them. They overestimate there skills and underestimate the competence of others. " The exact same thing applies to so called ‘intelligent’ people. If you have to try to prove your intelligence then you’re really not that intelligent. | |||
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"Unfortunately its called democratise lol?????? " Oh my. | |||
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"Do you find people on here actually try to sound more intelligent than they actually are... Some certainly do. I can think of one in particular. ...and argue about politics which for me should not be allowed on a swingers forum... I know. How dare grown adults talk about things that interest them on a forum designed to discuss pretty much anything. ...it should be left for all the boring old farts in parliament to bang there gums about Right. You know that that gum-banging can lead to things that have a massive impact on your day to day life, don’t you? And that we get to decide who does the gum-banging? And that we can do that better if we’re better informed? And that one great way to become better informed is to discuss things?" You so need to get laid ! | |||
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"You so need to get laid !" I’m doing fine in that department, thanks. Not that it’s any of your business. | |||
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"You so need to get laid ! I’m doing fine in that department, thanks. Not that it’s any of your business." *as he looks at right hand and winks* | |||
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"*as he looks at right hand and winks*" Believe what you want. | |||
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"Do you find people on here actually try to sound more intelligent than they actually are... Some certainly do. I can think of one in particular. ...and argue about politics which for me should not be allowed on a swingers forum... I know. How dare grown adults talk about things that interest them on a forum designed to discuss pretty much anything. ...it should be left for all the boring old farts in parliament to bang there gums about Right. You know that that gum-banging can lead to things that have a massive impact on your day to day life, don’t you? And that we get to decide who does the gum-banging? And that we can do that better if we’re better informed? And that one great way to become better informed is to discuss things?" just my opinion it bores the life out of me and I’m sure there’s a forum on here just for boring old farts to discuss brexit etc etc | |||
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"Do you find people on here actually try to sound more intelligent than they actually are... Some certainly do. I can think of one in particular. ...and argue about politics which for me should not be allowed on a swingers forum... I know. How dare grown adults talk about things that interest them on a forum designed to discuss pretty much anything. ...it should be left for all the boring old farts in parliament to bang there gums about Right. You know that that gum-banging can lead to things that have a massive impact on your day to day life, don’t you? And that we get to decide who does the gum-banging? And that we can do that better if we’re better informed? And that one great way to become better informed is to discuss things? just my opinion it bores the life out of me and I’m sure there’s a forum on here just for boring old farts to discuss brexit etc etc " There is. The politics forum. | |||
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"Opinions are like arse holes: Everyone has one, but not everyone accepts that they can be explored " Lol Best analogy I've heard all day | |||
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"Do you find people on here actually try to sound more intelligent than they actually are... Some certainly do. I can think of one in particular. ...and argue about politics which for me should not be allowed on a swingers forum... I know. How dare grown adults talk about things that interest them on a forum designed to discuss pretty much anything. ...it should be left for all the boring old farts in parliament to bang there gums about Right. You know that that gum-banging can lead to things that have a massive impact on your day to day life, don’t you? And that we get to decide who does the gum-banging? And that we can do that better if we’re better informed? And that one great way to become better informed is to discuss things? just my opinion it bores the life out of me and I’m sure there’s a forum on here just for boring old farts to discuss brexit etc etc There is. The politics forum. " I thought there was but I wouldn’t know as I don’t particularly take an interest in it I know it’s a disgrace ps I find football a tad boring as well omg what’s wrong with me am I normal | |||
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"And who gets to decide who is stupid?" I think putting "there" instead of "their" in forum thread titles qualifies someone as being a bit "challenged" maybe? | |||
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"And before you say ‘Well you voice yours, lol !’ I’m way ahead of you. The problem with the internet is it gives uninformed idiots a voice and now we have brexit. Thoughts please, but no stupid ones !" Define stupid | |||
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"And who gets to decide who is stupid? I think putting "there" instead of "their" in forum thread titles qualifies someone as being a bit "challenged" maybe? " I was being ironic, well spotted. | |||
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"I haven't read the thread but I wonder what definition is being used for stupid? Some of the recent posts have been inducing. Was the post stupid or the person who made it? " Don’t worry stupid people won’t be offended, ignorance is bliss. | |||
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"Smart people also know that every mistake is a chance to learn to do better next time" I love this. | |||
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"And before you say ‘Well you voice yours, lol !’ I’m way ahead of you. The problem with the internet is it gives uninformed idiots a voice and now we have brexit. Thoughts please, but no stupid ones !" Whose version of Stupid are we using. The correct answer is always yes that is what being a democracy is all about. | |||
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"And before you say ‘Well you voice yours, lol !’ I’m way ahead of you. The problem with the internet is it gives uninformed idiots a voice and now we have brexit. Thoughts please, but no stupid ones ! Whose version of Stupid are we using. The correct answer is always yes that is what being a democracy is all about." And that’s why democracy is flawed. | |||
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"Isn't intelligence about having original thoughts rather than regurgitating other people's ideas? Just a thought. " Ta-bloody-da! Nail on the head | |||
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"And before you say ‘Well you voice yours, lol !’ I’m way ahead of you. The problem with the internet is it gives uninformed idiots a voice and now we have brexit. Thoughts please, but no stupid ones ! Define stupid " Really ?! | |||
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"Everyone is entitled to an opinion whether you, I or everyone agrees with it or not... " Yes 100% | |||
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"Do you find people on here actually try to sound more intelligent than they actually are... Some certainly do. I can think of one in particular. ...and argue about politics which for me should not be allowed on a swingers forum... I know. How dare grown adults talk about things that interest them on a forum designed to discuss pretty much anything. ...it should be left for all the boring old farts in parliament to bang there gums about Right. You know that that gum-banging can lead to things that have a massive impact on your day to day life, don’t you? And that we get to decide who does the gum-banging? And that we can do that better if we’re better informed? And that one great way to become better informed is to discuss things? just my opinion it bores the life out of me and I’m sure there’s a forum on here just for boring old farts to discuss brexit etc etc There is. The politics forum. I thought there was but I wouldn’t know as I don’t particularly take an interest in it I know it’s a disgrace ps I find football a tad boring as well omg what’s wrong with me am I normal " Wtf?!! You know you're supposed to have an orgasm any time brexit is mentioned | |||
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"Everyone is entitled to an opinion whether you, I or everyone agrees with it or not... Yes 100%" Yes, but you can’t tell a stupid person it is wrong even with fact based logic, cause they only hear what they want. | |||
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"Do you find people on here actually try to sound more intelligent than they actually are... Some certainly do. I can think of one in particular. ...and argue about politics which for me should not be allowed on a swingers forum... I know. How dare grown adults talk about things that interest them on a forum designed to discuss pretty much anything. ...it should be left for all the boring old farts in parliament to bang there gums about Right. You know that that gum-banging can lead to things that have a massive impact on your day to day life, don’t you? And that we get to decide who does the gum-banging? And that we can do that better if we’re better informed? And that one great way to become better informed is to discuss things? just my opinion it bores the life out of me and I’m sure there’s a forum on here just for boring old farts to discuss brexit etc etc There is. The politics forum. I thought there was but I wouldn’t know as I don’t particularly take an interest in it I know it’s a disgrace ps I find football a tad boring as well omg what’s wrong with me am I normal Wtf?!! You know you're supposed to have an orgasm any time brexit is mentioned " i know how very dare I | |||
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" post modernists. How much post modernism philosophy or literature have you read? What do you want a list of books ? Something that indicates you have the first clue what you're talking about? " I would but it would be like playing chess with a pigeon for me. | |||
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"If stupid people weren’t allowed to voice their opinions, how would we recognise them?" we normally wear big pointy hats with a big d on | |||
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" post modernists. How much post modernism philosophy or literature have you read? What do you want a list of books ? Something that indicates you have the first clue what you're talking about? I would but it would be like playing chess with a pigeon for me." You mean it would end in a humiliating defeat for you? Yes, probably. | |||
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"And before you say ‘Well you voice yours, lol !’ I’m way ahead of you. The problem with the internet is it gives uninformed idiots a voice and now we have brexit. Thoughts please, but no stupid ones ! That's rather harsh. So 17 million british voters are dumb and uninformed? Getting my popcorn for this one " Dominic Cummins was quite happy to brag about how many of them he netted with lies. | |||
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"I like the phrase ‘I neither have the time nor the crayons to explain this to you’ Everyone has a voice and is entitled to use it. People tend to target people as stupid when they disagree with them. It starts when we’re toddlers. " . Ha, that's a good one . I blame social media, those on the most seem the most hysterical on both sides. | |||
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"I like the phrase ‘I neither have the time nor the crayons to explain this to you’ Everyone has a voice and is entitled to use it. People tend to target people as stupid when they disagree with them. It starts when we’re toddlers. . Ha, that's a good one . I blame social media & brexit, those on the most seem the most hysterical on both sides. " FTFY | |||
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"You so need to get laid ! I’m doing fine in that department, thanks. Not that it’s any of your business. *as he looks at right hand and winks*" From memory, when Psylocke and I met Oatcake for a mindblowingly hot FMF threesome yesterday, we used our right hands, and our left hands and our mouths. The veris are on our profiles if you’d like to check. | |||
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" post modernists. How much post modernism philosophy or literature have you read? What do you want a list of books ? Something that indicates you have the first clue what you're talking about? I would but it would be like playing chess with a pigeon for me. You mean it would end in a humiliating defeat for you? Yes, probably. " Well done, for not knowing the pigeon chess analogy. Google it and you’ll get my point. | |||
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"Everyone should be entitled to voice their opinion. Whether Brexit should have been decided on by public vote is a different matter." it was! | |||
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"When I saw the title "Should stupid people be allowed to voice THERE opinion ?" I thought should stupid people be allowed to start forum posts about stupid people? () " Haha that made me | |||
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" post modernists. How much post modernism philosophy or literature have you read? What do you want a list of books ? Something that indicates you have the first clue what you're talking about? I would but it would be like playing chess with a pigeon for me. You mean it would end in a humiliating defeat for you? Yes, probably. Well done, for not knowing the pigeon chess analogy. Google it and you’ll get my point. " I know it. I was merely suggesting that you'd still manage to lose to a pigeon. But please feel free to prove me wrong with how much you know about postmodernism. | |||
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"And before you say ‘Well you voice yours, lol !’ I’m way ahead of you. The problem with the internet is it gives uninformed idiots a voice and now we have brexit. Thoughts please, but no stupid ones !" Like your uninformed pov re factors of obesity? | |||
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" And yet gets himself locked up , knowing full well he was in breach of his previous misdemeanors and that it would happen if he did what he did . That’s not someone who’s not as dumb as he acts is it ? I watched a few of his you tube videos recently and I don’t think he’s worth listening to . And that’s my opinion " No such thing as bad publicity? I think he knows full well what he's doing, and it slots in nicely with his martyred image that he's trying to cultivate, whilst acting as the last bastion of free speech... Don't get me wrong - I detest the man and everything he stands for, but that's not to say I can't recognise what he is...which is a moderately accomplished self-publicist | |||
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"And who gets to decide who is stupid? Intelligent people with fact based evidence. " Uninformed does not equate to stupidity but ignorance, ie lacking knowledge. | |||
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" post modernists. How much post modernism philosophy or literature have you read? What do you want a list of books ? Something that indicates you have the first clue what you're talking about? I would but it would be like playing chess with a pigeon for me. You mean it would end in a humiliating defeat for you? Yes, probably. Well done, for not knowing the pigeon chess analogy. Google it and you’ll get my point. I know it. I was merely suggesting that you'd still manage to lose to a pigeon. But please feel free to prove me wrong with how much you know about postmodernism. " Haha, it’s actually totally lost on you what the actually meaning is, which is ironic cause you’ve just shown what it means by not getting it. Don’t worry that will be over your head to, but you can tell everyone you won. Now toodle pip ! | |||
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"There's a saying that roughly translates to:- "If you want the simplest solution, ask the simplest person" and from Desiderata:- "Speak your truth quietly and clearly, and listen to others, even the dull and ignorant; they too have their story." I've found in life that even a person may appear to be "stupid", their minds work differently and they can apply an oblique approach to life and problems that I sometimes admire. "Ignorance is bliss" is probably sometimes a good thing, for some. I agree with that. Most people have something of worth to say. To be fair that’s a very egalitarian approach . I haven’t heard Tommy Robinson say anything worthwhile , nor from recent history , Peter Sutcliffe , Myra Hindley , Ian Brady , etc...... On a more personal level there are plenty of people I’ve interacted with who have never said a thing that I feel,is worth listening too ." Yes, that's why I said "most" | |||
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" post modernists. How much post modernism philosophy or literature have you read? What do you want a list of books ? Something that indicates you have the first clue what you're talking about? I would but it would be like playing chess with a pigeon for me. You mean it would end in a humiliating defeat for you? Yes, probably. Well done, for not knowing the pigeon chess analogy. Google it and you’ll get my point. I know it. I was merely suggesting that you'd still manage to lose to a pigeon. But please feel free to prove me wrong with how much you know about postmodernism. Haha, it’s actually totally lost on you what the actually meaning is, which is ironic cause you’ve just shown what it means by not getting it. Don’t worry that will be over your head to, but you can tell everyone you won. Now toodle pip ! " I perfectly understand the meaning. The point is that you're so far out of your depth that the analogy doesn't work for someone like you. But please do change the subject and run away rather than back up your claims. It's very telling. | |||
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" post modernists. How much post modernism philosophy or literature have you read? What do you want a list of books ? Something that indicates you have the first clue what you're talking about? I would but it would be like playing chess with a pigeon for me. You mean it would end in a humiliating defeat for you? Yes, probably. Well done, for not knowing the pigeon chess analogy. Google it and you’ll get my point. I know it. I was merely suggesting that you'd still manage to lose to a pigeon. But please feel free to prove me wrong with how much you know about postmodernism. Haha, it’s actually totally lost on you what the actually meaning is, which is ironic cause you’ve just shown what it means by not getting it. Don’t worry that will be over your head to, but you can tell everyone you won. Now toodle pip ! I perfectly understand the meaning. The point is that you're so far out of your depth that the analogy doesn't work for someone like you. But please do change the subject and run away rather than back up your claims. It's very telling. " Calling all units, calling all units. I’m gonna need back up, this guy is my intellectual superior cause he wears glasses and I’m out of my depth. Over. | |||
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" post modernists. How much post modernism philosophy or literature have you read? What do you want a list of books ? Something that indicates you have the first clue what you're talking about? I would but it would be like playing chess with a pigeon for me. You mean it would end in a humiliating defeat for you? Yes, probably. Well done, for not knowing the pigeon chess analogy. Google it and you’ll get my point. I know it. I was merely suggesting that you'd still manage to lose to a pigeon. But please feel free to prove me wrong with how much you know about postmodernism. Haha, it’s actually totally lost on you what the actually meaning is, which is ironic cause you’ve just shown what it means by not getting it. Don’t worry that will be over your head to, but you can tell everyone you won. Now toodle pip ! I perfectly understand the meaning. The point is that you're so far out of your depth that the analogy doesn't work for someone like you. But please do change the subject and run away rather than back up your claims. It's very telling. Calling all units, calling all units. I’m gonna need back up, this guy is my intellectual superior cause he wears glasses and I’m out of my depth. Over. " Yep, keep on blabbering about nothing rather than demonstrate you know what you're talking about on the actual subject you were challenged on. | |||
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" post modernists. How much post modernism philosophy or literature have you read? What do you want a list of books ? Something that indicates you have the first clue what you're talking about? I would but it would be like playing chess with a pigeon for me. You mean it would end in a humiliating defeat for you? Yes, probably. Well done, for not knowing the pigeon chess analogy. Google it and you’ll get my point. I know it. I was merely suggesting that you'd still manage to lose to a pigeon. But please feel free to prove me wrong with how much you know about postmodernism. Haha, it’s actually totally lost on you what the actually meaning is, which is ironic cause you’ve just shown what it means by not getting it. Don’t worry that will be over your head to, but you can tell everyone you won. Now toodle pip ! I perfectly understand the meaning. The point is that you're so far out of your depth that the analogy doesn't work for someone like you. But please do change the subject and run away rather than back up your claims. It's very telling. Calling all units, calling all units. I’m gonna need back up, this guy is my intellectual superior cause he wears glasses and I’m out of my depth. Over. " Cchhhh cccchhhhh back up required! Over! Damn, why can’t we post gifs on here? | |||
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" post modernists. How much post modernism philosophy or literature have you read? What do you want a list of books ? Something that indicates you have the first clue what you're talking about? I would but it would be like playing chess with a pigeon for me. You mean it would end in a humiliating defeat for you? Yes, probably. Well done, for not knowing the pigeon chess analogy. Google it and you’ll get my point. I know it. I was merely suggesting that you'd still manage to lose to a pigeon. But please feel free to prove me wrong with how much you know about postmodernism. Haha, it’s actually totally lost on you what the actually meaning is, which is ironic cause you’ve just shown what it means by not getting it. Don’t worry that will be over your head to, but you can tell everyone you won. Now toodle pip ! I perfectly understand the meaning. The point is that you're so far out of your depth that the analogy doesn't work for someone like you. But please do change the subject and run away rather than back up your claims. It's very telling. Calling all units, calling all units. I’m gonna need back up, this guy is my intellectual superior cause he wears glasses and I’m out of my depth. Over. Yep, keep on blabbering about nothing rather than demonstrate you know what you're talking about on the actual subject you were challenged on. " Tell me what you need to know and i will impart my vast wisdom ? | |||
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" post modernists. How much post modernism philosophy or literature have you read? What do you want a list of books ? Something that indicates you have the first clue what you're talking about? I would but it would be like playing chess with a pigeon for me. You mean it would end in a humiliating defeat for you? Yes, probably. Well done, for not knowing the pigeon chess analogy. Google it and you’ll get my point. I know it. I was merely suggesting that you'd still manage to lose to a pigeon. But please feel free to prove me wrong with how much you know about postmodernism. Haha, it’s actually totally lost on you what the actually meaning is, which is ironic cause you’ve just shown what it means by not getting it. Don’t worry that will be over your head to, but you can tell everyone you won. Now toodle pip ! I perfectly understand the meaning. The point is that you're so far out of your depth that the analogy doesn't work for someone like you. But please do change the subject and run away rather than back up your claims. It's very telling. Calling all units, calling all units. I’m gonna need back up, this guy is my intellectual superior cause he wears glasses and I’m out of my depth. Over. Yep, keep on blabbering about nothing rather than demonstrate you know what you're talking about on the actual subject you were challenged on. " It’s called a sense of humour, you should try one out. They’re fun. | |||
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"Smart people know you don't have to listen to stupid people's opinion. " I disagree, I think smart people should listen to EVERYONE'S opinion. | |||
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" Tell me what you need to know and i will impart my vast wisdom ?" What you understand the ideas of postmodernism to be, where you've got that understanding from, and what you think makes those ideas idiotic. | |||
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" It’s called a sense of humour, you should try one out. They’re fun." Some people are very easily pleased. | |||
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"Smart people know you don't have to listen to stupid people's opinion. I disagree, I think smart people should listen to EVERYONE'S opinion." When decision-making, it is good to hear everyone's pov. | |||
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"There's a saying that roughly translates to:- "If you want the simplest solution, ask the simplest person" and from Desiderata:- "Speak your truth quietly and clearly, and listen to others, even the dull and ignorant; they too have their story." I've found in life that even a person may appear to be "stupid", their minds work differently and they can apply an oblique approach to life and problems that I sometimes admire. "Ignorance is bliss" is probably sometimes a good thing, for some. I agree with that. Most people have something of worth to say. To be fair that’s a very egalitarian approach . I haven’t heard Tommy Robinson say anything worthwhile , nor from recent history , Peter Sutcliffe , Myra Hindley , Ian Brady , etc...... On a more personal level there are plenty of people I’ve interacted with who have never said a thing that I feel,is worth listening too . Yes, that's why I said "most" " You did indeed | |||
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"Politics and sex dangerous combination me thinks " Definitely...those politicians are a nefarious bunch...they'll fuck anyone in the arse - kids, the elderly, the disabled...and worst of all, none of them even want it! | |||
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"I quite like postmodern philosophy Was that the right thing to say at that point? " Postmodernism is actually grotesque and it is why we’ve arrived at the situation we are now, with fake news etc | |||
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"Yep brexit proved that lol " Brexit is a bust for the people who voted yes because they not going to get what they voted for in the end it was all lies. | |||
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"And before you say ‘Well you voice yours, lol !’ I’m way ahead of you. The problem with the internet is it gives uninformed idiots a voice and now we have brexit. Thoughts please, but no stupid ones !" Might as well seen as though the British government and councils have been doing it for years ALSO I think the site create some cut backs more charges and pointless jobs that are not needed | |||
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"I quite like postmodern philosophy Was that the right thing to say at that point? " Probably because you actually know something about it, and aren't just repeating what you've heard other people say online. | |||
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"I quite like postmodern philosophy Was that the right thing to say at that point? Postmodernism is actually grotesque and it is why we’ve arrived at the situation we are now, with fake news etc " I disagree. I think that's got more to do with neoconservatism and profiling technology platforms. The core problem with postmodernism from my point of view is that it's right but we no longer want it to be. We need some clever clog to show us where it's legitimate wrong. So far no one has imo | |||
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"There's a saying that roughly translates to:- "If you want the simplest solution, ask the simplest person" and from Desiderata:- "Speak your truth quietly and clearly, and listen to others, even the dull and ignorant; they too have their story." I've found in life that even a person may appear to be "stupid", their minds work differently and they can apply an oblique approach to life and problems that I sometimes admire. "Ignorance is bliss" is probably sometimes a good thing, for some. I agree with that. Most people have something of worth to say. To be fair that’s a very egalitarian approach . I haven’t heard Tommy Robinson say anything worthwhile , nor from recent history , Peter Sutcliffe , Myra Hindley , Ian Brady , etc...... On a more personal level there are plenty of people I’ve interacted with who have never said a thing that I feel,is worth listening too ." . I like the way you put Tommy Robinson in with child murderers and a serial killer!. I haven't heard those prolific motorway speeders saying anything interesting much like the Nazis who ran the extermination camps. | |||
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"I quite like postmodern philosophy Was that the right thing to say at that point? Postmodernism is actually grotesque and it is why we’ve arrived at the situation we are now, with fake news etc " Not at all. One of the key parts of postmodernism is questioning where claims about truth come from, and the bias/history/culture of the people making the claims. A postmodernist would dissect 'fake news', not wave it through. It's not at all about just accepting any claim at all as true, which seems to be the distorted version being passed around certain parts of the Internet. | |||
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"I quite like postmodern philosophy Was that the right thing to say at that point? Postmodernism is actually grotesque and it is why we’ve arrived at the situation we are now, with fake news etc I disagree. I think that's got more to do with neoconservatism and profiling technology platforms. The core problem with postmodernism from my point of view is that it's right but we no longer want it to be. We need some clever clog to show us where it's legitimate wrong. So far no one has imo " Bloody Marxist. Postmodernism pits the oppressors against the oppressed and that opened up the avenue of any number of groups, it’s not about economics anymore it’s about power. Everything to the postmodernists is about power, that’s all they are interested in. So there is no logic, no dialogue, no discussions etc So now we’ve seen the rapid expansion of identity politics, so now group identity is paramount, so they’ve got control in universities etc | |||
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"I quite like postmodern philosophy Was that the right thing to say at that point? Postmodernism is actually grotesque and it is why we’ve arrived at the situation we are now, with fake news etc I disagree. I think that's got more to do with neoconservatism and profiling technology platforms. The core problem with postmodernism from my point of view is that it's right but we no longer want it to be. We need some clever clog to show us where it's legitimate wrong. So far no one has imo Bloody Marxist. Postmodernism pits the oppressors against the oppressed and that opened up the avenue of any number of groups, it’s not about economics anymore it’s about power. Everything to the postmodernists is about power, that’s all they are interested in. So there is no logic, no dialogue, no discussions etc So now we’ve seen the rapid expansion of identity politics, so now group identity is paramount, so they’ve got control in universities etc " Been watching too many Jordan Peterson videos on YouTube have we? Honestly though dude it's really difficult to distill what of what you've just written is about postmodernism. Maybe I have too limited a knowledge of it. All I know is that I still really like what the post structuralists had to say and that I consider it a requisite of progress and advancement to plough through that, to take it on and win, rather than to just pretend it never happened... that's the impulse, that impulse of shirking the experts, that gets us to fake news imo | |||
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"Bloody Marxist. Postmodernism pits the oppressors against the oppressed and that opened up the avenue of any number of groups, it’s not about economics anymore it’s about power. Everything to the postmodernists is about power, that’s all they are interested in. So there is no logic, no dialogue, no discussions etc So now we’ve seen the rapid expansion of identity politics, so now group identity is paramount, so they’ve got control in universities etc " It is about economics; it's just that throughout the vast majority of our academic and political institutions and society at large, there is an utterly homogenous monoculture that has become all-pervasive, as though neoclassical economics were the only true economics. In fact, not even the only true economics - the only economics full stop. We need to be giving far more time and space to the heterodox schools | |||
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"I quite like postmodern philosophy Was that the right thing to say at that point? Postmodernism is actually grotesque and it is why we’ve arrived at the situation we are now, with fake news etc I disagree. I think that's got more to do with neoconservatism and profiling technology platforms. The core problem with postmodernism from my point of view is that it's right but we no longer want it to be. We need some clever clog to show us where it's legitimate wrong. So far no one has imo Bloody Marxist. Postmodernism pits the oppressors against the oppressed and that opened up the avenue of any number of groups, it’s not about economics anymore it’s about power. Everything to the postmodernists is about power, that’s all they are interested in. So there is no logic, no dialogue, no discussions etc So now we’ve seen the rapid expansion of identity politics, so now group identity is paramount, so they’ve got control in universities etc Been watching too many Jordan Peterson videos on YouTube have we? Honestly though dude it's really difficult to distill what of what you've just written is about postmodernism. Maybe I have too limited a knowledge of it. All I know is that I still really like what the post structuralists had to say and that I consider it a requisite of progress and advancement to plough through that, to take it on and win, rather than to just pretend it never happened... that's the impulse, that impulse of shirking the experts, that gets us to fake news imo" Abort mission Dave, I repeat abort mission, we’ve been rumbled ! | |||
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"There's a saying that roughly translates to:- "If you want the simplest solution, ask the simplest person" and from Desiderata:- "Speak your truth quietly and clearly, and listen to others, even the dull and ignorant; they too have their story." I've found in life that even a person may appear to be "stupid", their minds work differently and they can apply an oblique approach to life and problems that I sometimes admire. "Ignorance is bliss" is probably sometimes a good thing, for some. I agree with that. Most people have something of worth to say. To be fair that’s a very egalitarian approach . I haven’t heard Tommy Robinson say anything worthwhile , nor from recent history , Peter Sutcliffe , Myra Hindley , Ian Brady , etc...... On a more personal level there are plenty of people I’ve interacted with who have never said a thing that I feel,is worth listening too .. I like the way you put Tommy Robinson in with child murderers and a serial killer!. I haven't heard those prolific motorway speeders saying anything interesting much like the Nazis who ran the extermination camps. " Nor me | |||
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