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over a year ago
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"Heard on a radio show that intelligence is a genetic gift.. is this true? Do you agree or disagree? "
Apparently we get our intelligence gene from our mother? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Wrong. My son is very very intelligent. I'm not - I will admit that I get by and enjoy learning but I'm not naturally intelligent. My sons father was not intelligent either. My son was encouraged to learn and is predicted very good gcses |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Wrong. My son is very very intelligent. I'm not - I will admit that I get by and enjoy learning but I'm not naturally intelligent. My sons father was not intelligent either. My son was encouraged to learn and is predicted very good gcses "
Is that how you measure his intelligence? GCSE?  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I'm guessing the potential intelligence is genetic but still needs to be cultivated from a young age by reading to kids and mentally stimulating them. I.e. your ceiling is genetic but being challenged from a young age can increase your chances of reaching that level |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I don’t know. You are not born with knowledge, you have to learn it. To learn it you have to want to learn.
So whilst some folk may gain more knowledge more easily without trying too hard, others can gain knowledge if they want to and put in the hard work with books etc.
Although i’m sure i’m wrong.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Wrong. My son is very very intelligent. I'm not - I will admit that I get by and enjoy learning but I'm not naturally intelligent. My sons father was not intelligent either. My son was encouraged to learn and is predicted very good gcses
Is that how you measure his intelligence? GCSE? "
Just because you might not have been encouraged to learn, doesn't mean you are not intelligent.
Schools only teach in a certain way and if that way doesn't suit you then you won't find it easy. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Wrong. My son is very very intelligent. I'm not - I will admit that I get by and enjoy learning but I'm not naturally intelligent. My sons father was not intelligent either. My son was encouraged to learn and is predicted very good gcses
Is that how you measure his intelligence? GCSE? "
Well no, but it's how schools measure results  and as he is top sets in all subjects and can do anything he puts his mind to. All his reports state he is intelligent. As I say I lack his intelligence so it's certainly not genetics |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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The ability to acquire and apply knowledge and skills is the meaning.
I know so many adults that were absolutely useless is school but are really successful in life. Some running businesses but would have poor spelling, knowledge of history or geography and even just basic maths.
I think it may be a genetic gift but I feel a child's upbringing can help them alot. |
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"I don’t know. You are not born with knowledge, you have to learn it. To learn it you have to want to learn.
So whilst some folk may gain more knowledge more easily without trying too hard, others can gain knowledge if they want to and put in the hard work with books etc.
Although i’m sure i’m wrong.
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I went to school with a guy that hardly ever revised for his exams, but always did exceptionally well in them.
He must have been last in the queue when they were dishing out common sense though  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Wrong. My son is very very intelligent. I'm not - I will admit that I get by and enjoy learning but I'm not naturally intelligent. My sons father was not intelligent either. My son was encouraged to learn and is predicted very good gcses
Is that how you measure his intelligence? GCSE?
Just because you might not have been encouraged to learn, doesn't mean you are not intelligent.
Schools only teach in a certain way and if that way doesn't suit you then you won't find it easy. "
I didn't rely on the school  . When my son was very young, every car journey we would do maths questions. I taught him sciences. He was encouraged to read from a young age. I believe intelligence can be taught. Spending time with children encourages learning. We would make volcanos together, we would do experiments and we would bake. |
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"Yes I think it is but maybe not totally - exceptions to rules etc.
Why do you think it is and why do you think maybe not totally? "
Because occasionally you get brilliance where it is least expected, and vice versa. But I know lots of intelligent families where there are no exceptions, and some of the opposite, so I think it's generally true. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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As another poster pointed out you also have people that were high achievers in school but outside oh school were stupid as fuck. My friend is an example of that. He'll ace most exams but will do something outrageously stupid in everyday life cause he lacks common sense. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Heard on a radio show that intelligence is a genetic gift.. is this true? Do you agree or disagree? "
you can train a child from an early age to be intelligent look at that mathematics lecturer who got his 6 year old son through all exams to A level but the ability to read a page once and remember it is genetic, I had two friends at school both pissed about in lessons both came out with straight A's
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"Wrong. My son is very very intelligent. I'm not - I will admit that I get by and enjoy learning but I'm not naturally intelligent. My sons father was not intelligent either. My son was encouraged to learn and is predicted very good gcses
Is that how you measure his intelligence? GCSE?
Just because you might not have been encouraged to learn, doesn't mean you are not intelligent.
Schools only teach in a certain way and if that way doesn't suit you then you won't find it easy.
I didn't rely on the school . When my son was very young, every car journey we would do maths questions. I taught him sciences. He was encouraged to read from a young age. I believe intelligence can be taught. Spending time with children encourages learning. We would make volcanos together, we would do experiments and we would bake. "
The ability has to be there in the first place though. |
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"Define intelligence? Someone may not be as strong in book knowledge but can say build engines. Intelligence is just a word. "
No I believe it is the ability to use logic, eg to solve novel problems. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Everybody can be a genius. However judge a fish on its ability to climb a tree and it’ll live it’s life believing itself to be stupid.
I didn’t make this up. I used it to sound clever!! "
Its just a bastardised version of a quote by Germaine Greer, I think? |
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"Define intelligence? Someone may not be as strong in book knowledge but can say build engines. Intelligence is just a word.
No I believe it is the ability to use logic, eg to solve novel problems."
^This, and to apply your knowledge in a practical way |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Everybody can be a genius. However judge a fish on its ability to climb a tree and it’ll live it’s life believing itself to be stupid.
I didn’t make this up. I used it to sound clever!!
Its just a bastardised version of a quote by Germaine Greer, I think?"
Wasn't that a fish on a bicycle? |
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By *emi2017Woman
over a year ago
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I'd say it depends on the type of intelligence.
I know some very book smart people that are completely clueless when it comes to alot of life situations. I also know some that wouldn't be considered book smart at all and will be hard pressed to find a situation besides an exam that will be difficult for them.
Life experience makes the difference I believe, some train only for an exam hall and others train for the world past it. |
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"Everybody can be a genius. However judge a fish on its ability to climb a tree and it’ll live it’s life believing itself to be stupid.
I didn’t make this up. I used it to sound clever!!
Its just a bastardised version of a quote by Germaine Greer, I think?
Wasn't that a fish on a bicycle?"
I think so. The stupid fish quote is attributed to Einstein. I know that because someone put it up on a notice board where I used to work. I grew to dislike it intensely |
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"Define intelligence? Someone may not be as strong in book knowledge but can say build engines. Intelligence is just a word.
No I believe it is the ability to use logic, eg to solve novel problems.
^This, and to apply your knowledge in a practical way "
The latter doesn't necessarily follow it seems - lots of highly intelligent people are pretty unpractical. |
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By *icentiousCouple
over a year ago
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"Saying that, the last thing to discover water would be fish.
So how would you know you are intelligent?
By the company you keep"
And if their memetic level isn’t that high because they haven’t discovered water? |
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"Saying that, the last thing to discover water would be fish.
So how would you know you are intelligent?
By the company you keep
And if their memetic level isn’t that high because they haven’t discovered water?"
I had to google memetic.
I think one realises ones level of intelligence by comparison with ones peers.
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"Saying that, the last thing to discover water would be fish.
So how would you know you are intelligent?
By the company you keep
And if their memetic level isn’t that high because they haven’t discovered water?
I had to google memetic.
I think one realises ones level of intelligence by comparison with ones peers.
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That's kind of my issue with people who live in small villages, they tend to think way too much of themselves because they just don't meet enough smart people, often enough to accurately measure themselves against. |
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By *icentiousCouple
over a year ago
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Gurdjieff, talked about a three brained person.
The first brain was intellectual.
The second, emotional.
The third, physical.
He said that if one or two are dominant it will impact on the others.
Example, if the intellectual brain is dominant, it will be to the detriment of the other brains, Physical and emotional geek comes to mind.
If the Emotional brain is in prominence, it will be to the detriment of the physical, might not eat, do things physically that you wouldn’t normally do (I remember swimming in a freezing river in November).
If the physical side tanked over, well we just need to look at the footballers antics.
To me, wisdom/intelligence is being able to balance the three headed person. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I may be weird about this but to me being smart and being intelligent is different.
I would say some people are born smart but no one is born intelligent. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Wrong. My son is very very intelligent. I'm not - I will admit that I get by and enjoy learning but I'm not naturally intelligent. My sons father was not intelligent either. My son was encouraged to learn and is predicted very good gcses
Is that how you measure his intelligence? GCSE?
Just because you might not have been encouraged to learn, doesn't mean you are not intelligent.
Schools only teach in a certain way and if that way doesn't suit you then you won't find it easy.
I didn't rely on the school . When my son was very young, every car journey we would do maths questions. I taught him sciences. He was encouraged to read from a young age. I believe intelligence can be taught. Spending time with children encourages learning. We would make volcanos together, we would do experiments and we would bake. "
Encouraging kids really helps... sadly these days to many parents can’t be bothered and just rely on others..
Sad but true ... |
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"Wrong. My son is very very intelligent. I'm not - I will admit that I get by and enjoy learning but I'm not naturally intelligent. My sons father was not intelligent either. My son was encouraged to learn and is predicted very good gcses
Is that how you measure his intelligence? GCSE?
Just because you might not have been encouraged to learn, doesn't mean you are not intelligent.
Schools only teach in a certain way and if that way doesn't suit you then you won't find it easy.
I didn't rely on the school . When my son was very young, every car journey we would do maths questions. I taught him sciences. He was encouraged to read from a young age. I believe intelligence can be taught. Spending time with children encourages learning. We would make volcanos together, we would do experiments and we would bake.
Encouraging kids really helps... sadly these days to many parents can’t be bothered and just rely on others..
Sad but true ... "
Other than the fact that today children in this country get more minutes of parental attention than ever before |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I think intelligence is mostly nurture not nature. Far exceed my parents intelligence, but was always encouraged maybe even forced at times to study learn and problem solve. |
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By *eeBee67Man
over a year ago
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Don't agree sorry.
Neither of my parents were gifted academically, I earned a degree from studying while working and I'm pretty high up in the field I work in nationally.
Our daughters are both gifted academically, with eldest about to achieve highest grades in A levels and start her degree.
I believe it's nurture that helps develop an aptitude to learning. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Agree! if this were not true we would still be in the stone age. Its called genetic memory, the reason why certain races and cultures are more successful than others |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Everybody can be a genius. However judge a fish on its ability to climb a tree and it’ll live it’s life believing itself to be stupid.
I didn’t make this up. I used it to sound clever!!
Its just a bastardised version of a quote by Germaine Greer, I think?"
Which quote is that, "a woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle?" (I'm not sure that was Germane though). On the subject of intelligence, definitely genetic, but needs to be nurtured as well |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Everybody can be a genius. However judge a fish on its ability to climb a tree and it’ll live it’s life believing itself to be stupid.
I didn’t make this up. I used it to sound clever!!
Its just a bastardised version of a quote by Germaine Greer, I think?"
Which quote is that, "a woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle?" (I'm not sure that was Germane though). On the subject of intelligence, definitely genetic, but needs to be nurtured as well
Germaine |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I’m the only one in my family to go to university. My 2 sisters have their own business and my brother has a good job. My parents both had reasonably good careers but on paper weren’t really qualified for anything. |
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You could argue that it if your parents are intelligent and you are raised by them (Or at least the smart one if not both) yes. By the simple virtue that because of your child parent association to them you have been beneficiary to their influence and knowlage. So in that way it could be seen as a genetic gift. |
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The difference between types of intelligence is interesting. Being a lawyer for over twenty years gives you strong skills in dealing in logic and construction of arguments. However give me anything manipulating shape and I am hopeless.
After I split up with the mother of my kids, I bought a desk from Ikea and was struggling for two hours to put it together. She came round, took pity on me and had it up in twenty Mins... |
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"The difference between types of intelligence is interesting. Being a lawyer for over twenty years gives you strong skills in dealing in logic and construction of arguments. However give me anything manipulating shape and I am hopeless.
After I split up with the mother of my kids, I bought a desk from Ikea and was struggling for two hours to put it together. She came round, took pity on me and had it up in twenty Mins... "
You’d not be able to handle my body then...  |
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"The difference between types of intelligence is interesting. Being a lawyer for over twenty years gives you strong skills in dealing in logic and construction of arguments. However give me anything manipulating shape and I am hopeless.
After I split up with the mother of my kids, I bought a desk from Ikea and was struggling for two hours to put it together. She came round, took pity on me and had it up in twenty Mins...
You’d not be able to handle my body then... "
You have a self-assembly body? 
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"The difference between types of intelligence is interesting. Being a lawyer for over twenty years gives you strong skills in dealing in logic and construction of arguments. However give me anything manipulating shape and I am hopeless.
After I split up with the mother of my kids, I bought a desk from Ikea and was struggling for two hours to put it together. She came round, took pity on me and had it up in twenty Mins...
You’d not be able to handle my body then...
You have a self-assembly body?
Xx"
Definitely require an Allen key. |
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"The difference between types of intelligence is interesting. Being a lawyer for over twenty years gives you strong skills in dealing in logic and construction of arguments. However give me anything manipulating shape and I am hopeless.
After I split up with the mother of my kids, I bought a desk from Ikea and was struggling for two hours to put it together. She came round, took pity on me and had it up in twenty Mins... "
Funny, I'm really good at that, and map reading, and parallel parking, as well as being very logical. And emotional for that matter!  |
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"The difference between types of intelligence is interesting. Being a lawyer for over twenty years gives you strong skills in dealing in logic and construction of arguments. However give me anything manipulating shape and I am hopeless.
After I split up with the mother of my kids, I bought a desk from Ikea and was struggling for two hours to put it together. She came round, took pity on me and had it up in twenty Mins...
You’d not be able to handle my body then...
You have a self-assembly body?
Xx
Definitely require an Allen key. "
Or an Alan key maybe... |
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"The difference between types of intelligence is interesting. Being a lawyer for over twenty years gives you strong skills in dealing in logic and construction of arguments. However give me anything manipulating shape and I am hopeless.
After I split up with the mother of my kids, I bought a desk from Ikea and was struggling for two hours to put it together. She came round, took pity on me and had it up in twenty Mins...
Funny, I'm really good at that, and map reading, and parallel parking, as well as being very logical. And emotional for that matter! "
Funnily enough, I'm great at map reading |
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"The difference between types of intelligence is interesting. Being a lawyer for over twenty years gives you strong skills in dealing in logic and construction of arguments. However give me anything manipulating shape and I am hopeless.
After I split up with the mother of my kids, I bought a desk from Ikea and was struggling for two hours to put it together. She came round, took pity on me and had it up in twenty Mins...
You’d not be able to handle my body then...
You have a self-assembly body?
Xx
Definitely require an Allen key. "
Got a few of those in my toolbox, different sizes though lol
Xx |
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