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"Very hard to answer when analysing stupid people." If you can't recognise his strategy, then you're naive at best. A more objective criticism would be to say he's shameless to pursue the strategy he does. But he executes it with a very high degree of skill and that is incompatible with stupidity. | |||
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"Is Trump a racist?" And sexist, a sexual predator, and all round bad guy. But on the plus side he funny idiot | |||
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"He's a beautiful, intelligent entrepreneur who beat the most disgusting candidate the democrat party has ever put forward. Lets all hope he serves two terms. " I can’t agree with the beautiful bit.  | |||
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"Very hard to answer when analysing stupid people. If you can't recognise his strategy, then you're naive at best. A more objective criticism would be to say he's shameless to pursue the strategy he does. But he executes it with a very high degree of skill and that is incompatible with stupidity. " Or he has an intelligent team of strategists dealing with his stupidity in a marvellous way | |||
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"Very hard to answer when analysing stupid people. If you can't recognise his strategy, then you're naive at best. A more objective criticism would be to say he's shameless to pursue the strategy he does. But he executes it with a very high degree of skill and that is incompatible with stupidity. Or he has an intelligent team of strategists dealing with his stupidity in a marvellous way " He executes that stratgey on the fly in speeches and 'debates'. His team may prep him well, but that's him executing when he's out there stood at the front. Clinton spent about 50% more than Trump, that's pretty key to understanding why he does a lot of what he does. | |||
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"Is Trump a racist?" No, just practical. | |||
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"Is Trump a racist?" Narcissistic people, of which he is, can't be racist as no one no matter whether that be social cultural etc can be better than them. They are the only person on the planet everyone else is there to look up to them and provide their needs. | |||
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"A politician that does what he pledge to do shame the UK gov don't do the same " exactly | |||
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"Very hard to answer when analysing stupid people. If you can't recognise his strategy, then you're naive at best. A more objective criticism would be to say he's shameless to pursue the strategy he does. But he executes it with a very high degree of skill and that is incompatible with stupidity. " I think it’s a great shake up. Hope it paves the way for more doers and less talkers | |||
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"Very hard to answer when analysing stupid people. If you can't recognise his strategy, then you're naive at best. A more objective criticism would be to say he's shameless to pursue the strategy he does. But he executes it with a very high degree of skill and that is incompatible with stupidity. I think it’s a great shake up. Hope it paves the way for more doers and less talkers " exactly, racist for standing up for your country???? how does that work | |||
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"He inherited all his money. Apparently, if he’d just had left it in the bank he’d have made more money than he has already." That's not remotely close to being true and it gives the impression you are ignorant if you repeat things without thinking them through. | |||
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"He inherited all his money. Apparently, if he’d just had left it in the bank he’d have made more money than he has already. That's not remotely close to being true and it gives the impression you are ignorant if you repeat things without thinking them through. " People believe what they read and trump tells it how it is and the fake news | |||
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"He inherited all his money. Apparently, if he’d just had left it in the bank he’d have made more money than he has already. That's not remotely close to being true and it gives the impression you are ignorant if you repeat things without thinking them through. People believe what they read and trump tells it how it is and the fake news " Yes Trump said a lot of things that weren't true. Such as "Obama founded ISIS" which he later clarified, was a literal statement and not speaking figuratively 
But people on the left can't really call him out on it, if they are doing exactly the same thing but making statements about his wealth that aren't true either. | |||
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"Waiting for his final speech as president when he will no doubt tell the world he has been americas greatest ever president" Well at least he is standing up for America, as he promised to do. | |||
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"He inherited all his money. Apparently, if he’d just had left it in the bank he’d have made more money than he has already. That's not remotely close to being true and it gives the impression you are ignorant if you repeat things without thinking them through. " And every thing that comes out of trumps mouth is true  | |||
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"Waiting for his final speech as president when he will no doubt tell the world he has been americas greatest ever president Well at least he is standing up for America, as he promised to do." spot on, we need a guy like that over here | |||
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"He inherited all his money. Apparently, if he’d just had left it in the bank he’d have made more money than he has already. That's not remotely close to being true and it gives the impression you are ignorant if you repeat things without thinking them through. " It was published after research by Forbes magazine; who took his inheritance and employed statisticians who adjusted it for inflation. No I don't have a link. | |||
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"Waiting for his final speech as president when he will no doubt tell the world he has been americas greatest ever president Well at least he is standing up for America, as he promised to do. spot on, we need a guy like that over here" Throwing tantrums, wrecking summits, insulting your nation's allies and imposing tariffs that damage your own economy isn't "standing up for your country" any more than lying on an hourly basis, boasting abiut sexual assault, denigrating the disabled and acting like a cunt is "telling it like it is", another of Trump's alleged "virtues". | |||
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"Waiting for his final speech as president when he will no doubt tell the world he has been americas greatest ever president Well at least he is standing up for America, as he promised to do. spot on, we need a guy like that over here Throwing tantrums, wrecking summits, insulting your nation's allies and imposing tariffs that damage your own economy isn't "standing up for your country" any more than lying on an hourly basis, boasting abiut sexual assault, denigrating the disabled and acting like a cunt is "telling it like it is", another of Trump's alleged "virtues"." | |||
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"His ‘strategy’ was a ropey one Despite being up against a pretty unpopular democrat he still lost the US election by 3 million votes He got in via the electoral college which gives states votes and encourages smaller states to have a bigger influence- despite all that even in the electoral college which favoured him it came down to a few tens of thousands of votes in a few states in a country of a couple of hundred million So if that was a plan it was a very bad one that nearly went wrong - it was the biggest ever popular vote defeat that still got through the electoral college " The problem is that ten years ago someone like trump wouldn't have got within a million miles of the US presidency. The fact that millions of people were prepared to vote for him is far more significant than the fact that he lost the popular vote. (though I agree that it's a bizarre system when in an effective two horse race, the candidate who got three million fewer votes is the winner). | |||
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"He inherited all his money. Apparently, if he’d just had left it in the bank he’d have made more money than he has already. That's not remotely close to being true and it gives the impression you are ignorant if you repeat things without thinking them through. It was published after research by Forbes magazine; who took his inheritance and employed statisticians who adjusted it for inflation. No I don't have a link." Did you read said article carefully yourself? Or are you misquoting it because it suits your own personal bias? | |||
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"The guy lies every time he opens his mouth, is corrupt as fuck, admitted he’s sexually harassed women. A truly disgusting man." We're not here to discuss Bill Clinton | |||
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"He inherited all his money. Apparently, if he’d just had left it in the bank he’d have made more money than he has already. That's not remotely close to being true and it gives the impression you are ignorant if you repeat things without thinking them through. It was published after research by Forbes magazine; who took his inheritance and employed statisticians who adjusted it for inflation. No I don't have a link. Did you read said article carefully yourself? Or are you misquoting it because it suits your own personal bias? " Mine is not the original claim. I 'claimed' that it originates from work done by Forbes. Which I read (even the long words). MY bias is by belief that he's no genius. MY opinion is that he's a dumbass who started rich, and got richer, like most rich people. Only thick working class lottery-winners get poor after being rich. Hoe that clears it up for you. | |||
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"He inherited all his money. Apparently, if he’d just had left it in the bank he’d have made more money than he has already. That's not remotely close to being true and it gives the impression you are ignorant if you repeat things without thinking them through. It was published after research by Forbes magazine; who took his inheritance and employed statisticians who adjusted it for inflation. No I don't have a link. Did you read said article carefully yourself? Or are you misquoting it because it suits your own personal bias? Mine is not the original claim. I 'claimed' that it originates from work done by Forbes. Which I read (even the long words). MY bias is by belief that he's no genius. MY opinion is that he's a dumbass who started rich, and got richer, like most rich people. Only thick working class lottery-winners get poor after being rich. Hoe that clears it up for you." You clearly didn't read it carefully as it doesn't say that at all. You can't really call him a dumbass when you've failed to understand a very straight forward Forbes article and i ever gave you a very strong hint that you'd misunderstood it and might want to back track. | |||
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"His ‘strategy’ was a ropey one Despite being up against a pretty unpopular democrat he still lost the US election by 3 million votes He got in via the electoral college which gives states votes and encourages smaller states to have a bigger influence- despite all that even in the electoral college which favoured him it came down to a few tens of thousands of votes in a few states in a country of a couple of hundred million So if that was a plan it was a very bad one that nearly went wrong - it was the biggest ever popular vote defeat that still got through the electoral college " That's not the strategy I'm referring to. I'm talking about his narrative of why people should vote for him. | |||
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"He inherited all his money. Apparently, if he’d just had left it in the bank he’d have made more money than he has already. That's not remotely close to being true and it gives the impression you are ignorant if you repeat things without thinking them through. It was published after research by Forbes magazine; who took his inheritance and employed statisticians who adjusted it for inflation. No I don't have a link. Did you read said article carefully yourself? Or are you misquoting it because it suits your own personal bias? Mine is not the original claim. I 'claimed' that it originates from work done by Forbes. Which I read (even the long words). MY bias is by belief that he's no genius. MY opinion is that he's a dumbass who started rich, and got richer, like most rich people. Only thick working class lottery-winners get poor after being rich. Hoe that clears it up for you. You clearly didn't read it carefully as it doesn't say that at all. You can't really call him a dumbass when you've failed to understand a very straight forward Forbes article and i ever gave you a very strong hint that you'd misunderstood it and might want to back track." No Ta, I'm fine. | |||
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"He inherited all his money. Apparently, if he’d just had left it in the bank he’d have made more money than he has already. That's not remotely close to being true and it gives the impression you are ignorant if you repeat things without thinking them through. It was published after research by Forbes magazine; who took his inheritance and employed statisticians who adjusted it for inflation. No I don't have a link. Did you read said article carefully yourself? Or are you misquoting it because it suits your own personal bias? Mine is not the original claim. I 'claimed' that it originates from work done by Forbes. Which I read (even the long words). MY bias is by belief that he's no genius. MY opinion is that he's a dumbass who started rich, and got richer, like most rich people. Only thick working class lottery-winners get poor after being rich. Hoe that clears it up for you. You clearly didn't read it carefully as it doesn't say that at all. You can't really call him a dumbass when you've failed to understand a very straight forward Forbes article and i ever gave you a very strong hint that you'd misunderstood it and might want to back track. No Ta, I'm fine." Ok, keep lying whilst holding the moral high ground and calling Trump a liar. | |||
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"He's a beautiful, intelligent entrepreneur who beat the most disgusting candidate the democrat party has ever put forward. Lets all hope he serves two terms. "
Not only that he has done so much for the American people. Stopped a nuclear war from happening and so much more | |||
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"Is Trump a racist?" He is every "ist" that exists. Loathe the creature. | |||
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"Trumps cool, he reminds me of the old time americans, big , brash, speak their minds, yet have good hearts, kinda like John wayne... The hate and abuse he suffers from the lefties, the marxists, socialists reveals just how evil and intolerant they are and that they are the bigots, the haters and the ones determined to weaken the fabric of the American people... The American people voted him in, they must of seen good in the man..." The John Wayne comparison is a good one. He was a white supremacist too. | |||
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"Trumps cool, he reminds me of the old time americans, big , brash, speak their minds, yet have good hearts, kinda like John wayne... The hate and abuse he suffers from the lefties, the marxists, socialists reveals just how evil and intolerant they are and that they are the bigots, the haters and the ones determined to weaken the fabric of the American people... The American people voted him in, they must of seen good in the man..." You never really hear lefties explaining why they think Clinton was a better candidate. Just that Trump is bad m'kay | |||
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"Trumps cool, he reminds me of the old time americans, big , brash, speak their minds, yet have good hearts, kinda like John wayne... The hate and abuse he suffers from the lefties, the marxists, socialists reveals just how evil and intolerant they are and that they are the bigots, the haters and the ones determined to weaken the fabric of the American people... The American people voted him in, they must of seen good in the man... The John Wayne comparison is a good one. He was a white supremacist too. " Can you name a stable country run by a black supremacist? | |||
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"Very hard to answer when analysing stupid people." A stupid entrepreneur!!!! How novel | |||
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"He's a beautiful, intelligent entrepreneur who beat the most disgusting candidate the democrat party has ever put forward. Lets all hope he serves two terms. " Thank you, a person of reason, common sense, and being real! People, especially closed minded progressive socialists, can't get a handle on Trump. Yet, they supported every lie and every UnConstitutional act Obama purposed. Mr.Trump has done more Good for America, then Obumer ever thought about during his 8 yrs of reign. I don't think the ecconomy me as great, right now, as Trump says, but, it is far and away better then what Obumer could ever imagine. Had got got stuck with Lying Hillary, this Great Country, would be in the tank!! Thank God for an Electoral College that actually works. | |||
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"He’s a white man of privilege both in wealth and status as well as a narcissist. Of course he’s racist. " Spoken by a person who is still in the 1600's Monarchy silliness. He didn't get awards from the many Black organizations, because he was a racists, but, because of the many Many positive programs, he began himself and at his own expense, which helped the common Black man n woman Out of the racists Democrat slavery they've endured since the end of the Civil war. | |||
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"A politician that does what he pledge to do shame the UK gov don't do the same " Very well said. How many other countries does 1 socialist party want to tear down every boarder crossing and allow streams of anti, (put your government here), into their country? Just as Mexico has a huge Southern Boarder and throws illegals in there filthy prisons, which have NO Rights, why can't the USA have controlled Boarder Crossings,the enforce OUR Laws and we house illegals in clean enviroments and feed them 3 squares a day, instead of the squaler they are running from. Trump is Finally addressing what the last idiot tore down. | |||
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"Is Trump a racist?" Nope , he’s a very serious and successful man who is doing wonders for the USA . We could learn a lot from him and his politics , but we will continue to be the snowflakes we love to be . And ultimately we will end up with a soft Brexit , and continue to see our great country slip away . Producing less and less , and pandering to the whims of the minorities . | |||
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"The guy lies every time he opens his mouth, is corrupt as fuck, admitted he’s sexually harassed women. A truly disgusting man. We're not here to discuss Bill Clinton" I do think it's funny when the haters of one person have amnesia around the "habits" of his opponents. | |||
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"The guy lies every time he opens his mouth, is corrupt as fuck, admitted he’s sexually harassed women. A truly disgusting man. We're not here to discuss Bill Clinton I do think it's funny when the haters of one person have amnesia around the "habits" of his opponents." At one stage of the election, if you went to Hillary's home page it was saying a message of 'we must keep trump out of the white house' (click to agree). 'I'm not trump' and 'I'm a woman' was her central logic of why anyone should vote for her. I wonder if the people criticising trump here are bitter Jeb Bush fans because none of them seen to ever make the case for Hillary. | |||
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"Is he here yet, is the blimp up?? "Yes, is it supposed to be an insult? It looks great. | |||
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"A politician that does what he pledge to do shame the UK gov don't do the same " Am sorry where's the wall. The rich are richer the poor are still struggling and the areas where the main businesses that left supported 70% of the towns people haven't come back. So what pledge has he achieved. | |||
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"A politician that does what he pledge to do shame the UK gov don't do the same Am sorry where's the wall. The rich are richer the poor are still struggling and the areas where the main businesses that left supported 70% of the towns people haven't come back. So what pledge has he achieved. "The poor are struggling with what? To find sockets to charge their iPhones? | |||
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"Yes, Trump is at the very least had unconscious racism. It has been well documented that Trump discourages black tenants at Trumps properties on the grounds that they lowered the rental value." I'd say that makes him a racist. | |||
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"Is Trump a racist? And sexist, a sexual predator, and all round bad guy. But on the plus side he funny idiot " Is he on fab then lol | |||
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"Trumps cool, he reminds me of the old time americans, big , brash, speak their minds, yet have good hearts, kinda like John wayne... The hate and abuse he suffers from the lefties, the marxists, socialists reveals just how evil and intolerant they are and that they are the bigots, the haters and the ones determined to weaken the fabric of the American people... The American people voted him in, they must of seen good in the man..." For a self proclaimed Christian, you're not very good at loving your enemies rather than insulting them. I recommend a re read of Matthew 5.44. | |||
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"I think he's a patriot and wants to look after his country,regardless of who he steps on to do it. I don't know what that is called; I'm shit at politics. " Exactly this , and I call that doing what any politician should be doing | |||
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"He’s a white man of privilege both in wealth and status as well as a narcissist. Of course he’s racist. " | |||
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"A politician that does what he pledge to do shame the UK gov don't do the same Am sorry where's the wall. The rich are richer the poor are still struggling and the areas where the main businesses that left supported 70% of the towns people haven't come back. So what pledge has he achieved.
The poor are struggling with what? To find sockets to charge their iPhones? "It might be in reference to the displaced poor that have no income, food nor actual home. For example, places devestated by hurricane Katrina that have still not been rebuilt. There are people with no place to plug their iphone charger (though they probably couldn't afford an iphone either anyway). | |||
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"I think he's a patriot and wants to look after his country,regardless of who he steps on to do it. I don't know what that is called; I'm shit at politics. " I agree, not the last bit. | |||
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"Trumps cool, he reminds me of the old time americans, big , brash, speak their minds, yet have good hearts, kinda like John wayne... The hate and abuse he suffers from the lefties, the marxists, socialists reveals just how evil and intolerant they are and that they are the bigots, the haters and the ones determined to weaken the fabric of the American people... The American people voted him in, they must of seen good in the man... For a self proclaimed Christian, you're not very good at loving your enemies rather than insulting them. I recommend a re read of Matthew 5.44. " Personally I'd take a look at a dictionary first and review the definition of intolerance  | |||
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"I think he's a patriot and wants to look after his country,regardless of who he steps on to do it. I don't know what that is called; I'm shit at politics. Exactly this , and I call that doing what any politician should be doing "looking after the citizens the people indigenous to that country yes I agree, whats Teresa may doing is more to the point....... People hate trump, I'm not exactly sure why but many Americans loved him enough to vote him into office, he must be doing something right | |||
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"Yes, Trump is at the very least had unconscious racism. It has been well documented that Trump discourages black tenants at Trumps properties on the grounds that they lowered the rental value. I'd say that makes him a racist." I don’t think it does , because to be successful you need to be aware of your market . If it’s true that black tenants lower the rental value , so be it , but you can’t blame Trump for that . | |||
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"Trumps cool, he reminds me of the old time americans, big , brash, speak their minds, yet have good hearts, kinda like John wayne... The hate and abuse he suffers from the lefties, the marxists, socialists reveals just how evil and intolerant they are and that they are the bigots, the haters and the ones determined to weaken the fabric of the American people... The American people voted him in, they must of seen good in the man... For a self proclaimed Christian, you're not very good at loving your enemies rather than insulting them. I recommend a re read of Matthew 5.44. Personally I'd take a look at a dictionary first and review the definition of intolerance "Indeed, but it's always great fun with people who loudly proclaim their religiosity to point out the obvious ways they don't follow it. I believe serial adulterers Trump and Clinton W. also call themselves Christians. | |||
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"Yes, Trump is at the very least had unconscious racism. It has been well documented that Trump discourages black tenants at Trumps properties on the grounds that they lowered the rental value. I'd say that makes him a racist. I don’t think it does , because to be successful you need to be aware of your market . If it’s true that black tenants lower the rental value , so be it , but you can’t blame Trump for that ." It shows that you care more about money than fighting racism, which at the very least makes you a condoner of racism. | |||
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"Yes, Trump is at the very least had unconscious racism. It has been well documented that Trump discourages black tenants at Trumps properties on the grounds that they lowered the rental value. I'd say that makes him a racist. I don’t think it does , because to be successful you need to be aware of your market . If it’s true that black tenants lower the rental value , so be it , but you can’t blame Trump for that . It shows that you care more about money than fighting racism, which at the very least makes you a condoner of racism. " that's not fair business is about making money if you're running a successful business you pick the people to help you make money not lose it, he's not a charity | |||
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"Yes, Trump is at the very least had unconscious racism. It has been well documented that Trump discourages black tenants at Trumps properties on the grounds that they lowered the rental value. I'd say that makes him a racist. I don’t think it does , because to be successful you need to be aware of your market . If it’s true that black tenants lower the rental value , so be it , but you can’t blame Trump for that . It shows that you care more about money than fighting racism, which at the very least makes you a condoner of racism. " Oh dear. Sometimes you really let ideology overcome your own powers of logic, which are often quite good. I'm not angry, I'm disappointed. | |||
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"Is Trump a racist? And sexist, a sexual predator, and all round bad guy. But on the plus side he funny idiot Is he on fab then lol" Lol | |||
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"Yes, Trump is at the very least had unconscious racism. It has been well documented that Trump discourages black tenants at Trumps properties on the grounds that they lowered the rental value. I'd say that makes him a racist. I don’t think it does , because to be successful you need to be aware of your market . If it’s true that black tenants lower the rental value , so be it , but you can’t blame Trump for that . It shows that you care more about money than fighting racism, which at the very least makes you a condoner of racism. Oh dear. Sometimes you really let ideology overcome your own powers of logic, which are often quite good. I'm not angry, I'm disappointed. " You seem angry all the time, judging by your forum comments! | |||
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"Yes, Trump is at the very least had unconscious racism. It has been well documented that Trump discourages black tenants at Trumps properties on the grounds that they lowered the rental value. I'd say that makes him a racist. I don’t think it does , because to be successful you need to be aware of your market . If it’s true that black tenants lower the rental value , so be it , but you can’t blame Trump for that . It shows that you care more about money than fighting racism, which at the very least makes you a condoner of racism. that's not fair business is about making money if you're running a successful business you pick the people to help you make money not lose it, he's not a charity "Running a country is like running a business for him . And he isn’t a charity as this poster said . He’s doing what the country needs and it’s working . | |||
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"Yes, Trump is at the very least had unconscious racism. It has been well documented that Trump discourages black tenants at Trumps properties on the grounds that they lowered the rental value. I'd say that makes him a racist. I don’t think it does , because to be successful you need to be aware of your market . If it’s true that black tenants lower the rental value , so be it , but you can’t blame Trump for that . It shows that you care more about money than fighting racism, which at the very least makes you a condoner of racism. that's not fair business is about making money if you're running a successful business you pick the people to help you make money not lose it, he's not a charity
Running a country is like running a business for him . And he isn’t a charity as this poster said . He’s doing what the country needs and it’s working ."I'm with you I agree, the hate campaign that's been levied against him by politicians, actors and the media has been relentless but he got north Korean leader Kim Jong un to the table which I think was a great accomplishment | |||
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"Yes, Trump is at the very least had unconscious racism. It has been well documented that Trump discourages black tenants at Trumps properties on the grounds that they lowered the rental value. I'd say that makes him a racist. I don’t think it does , because to be successful you need to be aware of your market . If it’s true that black tenants lower the rental value , so be it , but you can’t blame Trump for that . It shows that you care more about money than fighting racism, which at the very least makes you a condoner of racism. that's not fair business is about making money if you're running a successful business you pick the people to help you make money not lose it, he's not a charity
Running a country is like running a business for him . And he isn’t a charity as this poster said . He’s doing what the country needs and it’s working .I'm with you I agree, the hate campaign that's been levied against him by politicians, actors and the media has been relentless but he got north Korean leader Kim Jong un to the table which I think was a great accomplishment "It was and whilst I generally prefer Obama's economic policies, Obama was weak as fcuk on foreign policy where trump has shined. I think that fundamentally, trump likes making deals himself. I don't like his tariffs and trade war, but i think he's doing it to force a negotiation that happens on his terms. If my analysis is correct, that's his job as president of America. | |||
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"Yes, Trump is at the very least had unconscious racism. It has been well documented that Trump discourages black tenants at Trumps properties on the grounds that they lowered the rental value. I'd say that makes him a racist. I don’t think it does , because to be successful you need to be aware of your market . If it’s true that black tenants lower the rental value , so be it , but you can’t blame Trump for that . It shows that you care more about money than fighting racism, which at the very least makes you a condoner of racism. that's not fair business is about making money if you're running a successful business you pick the people to help you make money not lose it, he's not a charity
Running a country is like running a business for him . And he isn’t a charity as this poster said . He’s doing what the country needs and it’s working .I'm with you I agree, the hate campaign that's been levied against him by politicians, actors and the media has been relentless but he got north Korean leader Kim Jong un to the table which I think was a great accomplishment
It was and whilst I generally prefer Obama's economic policies, Obama was weak as fcuk on foreign policy where trump has shined. I think that fundamentally, trump likes making deals himself. I don't like his tariffs and trade war, but i think he's doing it to force a negotiation that happens on his terms. If my analysis is correct, that's his job as president of America. "yes, he's a business man and he's been at the sharp end of government sanctions that probably seriously affected his own business empire and is righting a few wrongs, nobody ever gets it completely right however | |||
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"He’s just a cunt" but a cunt is useful!!! | |||
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"I think he's a patriot and wants to look after his country,regardless of who he steps on to do it. I don't know what that is called; I'm shit at politics. Exactly this , and I call that doing what any politician should be doing looking after the citizens the people indigenous to that country yes I agree, whats Teresa may doing is more to the point....... People hate trump, I'm not exactly sure why but many Americans loved him enough to vote him into office, he must be doing something right "Only the losers hate him a bit like brexit lol | |||
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"Nope. He wasn't called a racist by anyone of any colour until he stood against Killary." That’s not true. Dead wrong in fact. | |||
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"His ‘strategy’ was a ropey one Despite being up against a pretty unpopular democrat he still lost the US election by 3 million votes He got in via the electoral college which gives states votes and encourages smaller states to have a bigger influence- despite all that even in the electoral college which favoured him it came down to a few tens of thousands of votes in a few states in a country of a couple of hundred million So if that was a plan it was a very bad one that nearly went wrong - it was the biggest ever popular vote defeat that still got through the electoral college " Bingo | |||
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"He's a beautiful, intelligent entrepreneur who beat the most disgusting candidate the democrat party has ever put forward. Lets all hope he serves two terms.
Not only that he has done so much for the American people. Stopped a nuclear war from happening and so much more "Lol | |||
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"He’s a white man of privilege both in wealth and status as well as a narcissist. Of course he’s racist. Spoken by a person who is still in the 1600's Monarchy silliness. He didn't get awards from the many Black organizations, because he was a racists, but, because of the many Many positive programs, he began himself and at his own expense, which helped the common Black man n woman Out of the racists Democrat slavery they've endured since the end of the Civil war." Tell me more about these programs please lol... | |||
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"Hillary Clinton supports abortion in any month, including the last. Anyone who who agrees with her has no right to be critising the morals of Trump. " Anti-abortion swingers? | |||
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"Most Americans love him . Don’t believe what you read in the press and see on the news . Minorities are getting good jobs . The Market is doing great . America is safer . He was elected to save America not to be the Pope . By the way have you seen the wall around the Vatican ? " Yea, lies. | |||
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"Most Americans love him . Don’t believe what you read in the press and see on the news . Minorities are getting good jobs . The Market is doing great . America is safer . He was elected to save America not to be the Pope . By the way have you seen the wall around the Vatican ? " Most Americans don’t love him. 3m more Americans voted for one of the least popular Democratic candidates in years, so within 4 words you’re already talking nonsense. You can’t just scream fake news and then give ‘facts’. How is America safer? What do you mean by ‘the market’? Obama came in after Bush and the Global Financial Crisis and (despite being far from perfect) corrected a lot and now Trump is reversing everything that they put in place to stop the same happening again. No idea what the pope has to do with this. | |||
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"Most Americans love him . Don’t believe what you read in the press and see on the news . Minorities are getting good jobs . The Market is doing great . America is safer . He was elected to save America not to be the Pope . By the way have you seen the wall around the Vatican ? Most Americans don’t love him. 3m more Americans voted for one of the least popular Democratic candidates in years, so within 4 words you’re already talking nonsense. You can’t just scream fake news and then give ‘facts’. How is America safer? What do you mean by ‘the market’? Obama came in after Bush and the Global Financial Crisis and (despite being far from perfect) corrected a lot and now Trump is reversing everything that they put in place to stop the same happening again. No idea what the pope has to do with this. " I fly to American a few times a month and I rarely meet people who declare a love for him. | |||
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"Hillary Clinton supports abortion in any month, including the last. Anyone who who agrees with her has no right to be critising the morals of Trump. Anti-abortion swingers? " The vast majority of reasonably intelligent, sane people are not in favour of late term abortions. | |||
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"Most Americans love him . Don’t believe what you read in the press and see on the news . Minorities are getting good jobs . The Market is doing great . America is safer . He was elected to save America not to be the Pope . By the way have you seen the wall around the Vatican ? Most Americans don’t love him. 3m more Americans voted for one of the least popular Democratic candidates in years, so within 4 words you’re already talking nonsense. You can’t just scream fake news and then give ‘facts’. How is America safer? What do you mean by ‘the market’? Obama came in after Bush and the Global Financial Crisis and (despite being far from perfect) corrected a lot and now Trump is reversing everything that they put in place to stop the same happening again. No idea what the pope has to do with this. I fly to American a few times a month and I rarely meet people who declare a love for him." Bet you work in IT | |||
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"Most Americans love him . Don’t believe what you read in the press and see on the news . Minorities are getting good jobs . The Market is doing great . America is safer . He was elected to save America not to be the Pope . By the way have you seen the wall around the Vatican ? Most Americans don’t love him. 3m more Americans voted for one of the least popular Democratic candidates in years, so within 4 words you’re already talking nonsense. You can’t just scream fake news and then give ‘facts’. How is America safer? What do you mean by ‘the market’? Obama came in after Bush and the Global Financial Crisis and (despite being far from perfect) corrected a lot and now Trump is reversing everything that they put in place to stop the same happening again. No idea what the pope has to do with this. " Actually it was Bill Clinton who removed the protections put in place after the great depression. You know, the husband of the one who lost. | |||
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"Most Americans love him . Don’t believe what you read in the press and see on the news . Minorities are getting good jobs . The Market is doing great . America is safer . He was elected to save America not to be the Pope . By the way have you seen the wall around the Vatican ? Most Americans don’t love him. 3m more Americans voted for one of the least popular Democratic candidates in years, so within 4 words you’re already talking nonsense. You can’t just scream fake news and then give ‘facts’. How is America safer? What do you mean by ‘the market’? Obama came in after Bush and the Global Financial Crisis and (despite being far from perfect) corrected a lot and now Trump is reversing everything that they put in place to stop the same happening again. No idea what the pope has to do with this. I fly to American a few times a month and I rarely meet people who declare a love for him. Bet you work in IT "Btw... you don’t fly to ‘American’ it’s called ... America | |||
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"Most Americans love him . Don’t believe what you read in the press and see on the news . Minorities are getting good jobs . The Market is doing great . America is safer . He was elected to save America not to be the Pope . By the way have you seen the wall around the Vatican ? Most Americans don’t love him. 3m more Americans voted for one of the least popular Democratic candidates in years, so within 4 words you’re already talking nonsense. You can’t just scream fake news and then give ‘facts’. How is America safer? What do you mean by ‘the market’? Obama came in after Bush and the Global Financial Crisis and (despite being far from perfect) corrected a lot and now Trump is reversing everything that they put in place to stop the same happening again. No idea what the pope has to do with this. " The guy who wrote the op you quoted comes from New Jersey , and I would pay way more heed in what he says than you . Just as I would if a person from England was writing about what people in England thought about our prime minster . | |||
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"Most Americans love him . Don’t believe what you read in the press and see on the news . Minorities are getting good jobs . The Market is doing great . America is safer . He was elected to save America not to be the Pope . By the way have you seen the wall around the Vatican ? Most Americans don’t love him. 3m more Americans voted for one of the least popular Democratic candidates in years, so within 4 words you’re already talking nonsense. You can’t just scream fake news and then give ‘facts’. How is America safer? What do you mean by ‘the market’? Obama came in after Bush and the Global Financial Crisis and (despite being far from perfect) corrected a lot and now Trump is reversing everything that they put in place to stop the same happening again. No idea what the pope has to do with this. I fly to American a few times a month and I rarely meet people who declare a love for him. Bet you work in IT
Btw... you don’t fly to ‘American’ it’s called ... America "Ooops, just noticed the typo. Yep, America. No, I don’t work in IT. | |||
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"Most Americans love him . Don’t believe what you read in the press and see on the news . Minorities are getting good jobs . The Market is doing great . America is safer . He was elected to save America not to be the Pope . By the way have you seen the wall around the Vatican ? Most Americans don’t love him. 3m more Americans voted for one of the least popular Democratic candidates in years, so within 4 words you’re already talking nonsense. You can’t just scream fake news and then give ‘facts’. How is America safer? What do you mean by ‘the market’? Obama came in after Bush and the Global Financial Crisis and (despite being far from perfect) corrected a lot and now Trump is reversing everything that they put in place to stop the same happening again. No idea what the pope has to do with this. I fly to American a few times a month and I rarely meet people who declare a love for him. Bet you work in IT
Btw... you don’t fly to ‘American’ it’s called ... America
Ooops, just noticed the typo. Yep, America. No, I don’t work in IT. "Lost that bet but I’m just going to guess I’m not to far off ... | |||
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"Hillary Clinton supports abortion in any month, including the last. Anyone who who agrees with her has no right to be critising the morals of Trump. Anti-abortion swingers? The vast majority of reasonably intelligent, sane people are not in favour of late term abortions. " Not just intelligent sane people , anyone with a heart , a smidgeon of humanity , and any empathy at all wouldn’t be in favour of late term abortion . Hilary must be so warped to have even entertained the though of abortion right up to the full term . So wrong on every level . | |||
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"Hillary Clinton supports abortion in any month, including the last. Anyone who who agrees with her has no right to be critising the morals of Trump. Anti-abortion swingers? The vast majority of reasonably intelligent, sane people are not in favour of late term abortions. Not just intelligent sane people , anyone with a heart , a smidgeon of humanity , and any empathy at all wouldn’t be in favour of late term abortion . Hilary must be so warped to have even entertained the though of abortion right up to the full term . So wrong on every level . " It's what happens when people make policy based on ideology rather than their own brain. | |||
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"Most Americans love him . Don’t believe what you read in the press and see on the news . Minorities are getting good jobs . The Market is doing great . America is safer . He was elected to save America not to be the Pope . By the way have you seen the wall around the Vatican ? Most Americans don’t love him. 3m more Americans voted for one of the least popular Democratic candidates in years, so within 4 words you’re already talking nonsense. You can’t just scream fake news and then give ‘facts’. How is America safer? What do you mean by ‘the market’? Obama came in after Bush and the Global Financial Crisis and (despite being far from perfect) corrected a lot and now Trump is reversing everything that they put in place to stop the same happening again. No idea what the pope has to do with this. The guy who wrote the op you quoted comes from New Jersey , and I would pay way more heed in what he says than you . Just as I would if a person from England was writing about what people in England thought about our prime minster ." Hang on... are you disputing the fact that more people voted for Hillary Clinton than Trump..? Are you disputing that Trump has an approval rating of circa 45% (at best)? Or because one guy says most Americans love Trump you just have to go with that? | |||
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"Most Americans love him . Don’t believe what you read in the press and see on the news . Minorities are getting good jobs . The Market is doing great . America is safer . He was elected to save America not to be the Pope . By the way have you seen the wall around the Vatican ? Most Americans don’t love him. 3m more Americans voted for one of the least popular Democratic candidates in years, so within 4 words you’re already talking nonsense. You can’t just scream fake news and then give ‘facts’. How is America safer? What do you mean by ‘the market’? Obama came in after Bush and the Global Financial Crisis and (despite being far from perfect) corrected a lot and now Trump is reversing everything that they put in place to stop the same happening again. No idea what the pope has to do with this. I fly to American a few times a month and I rarely meet people who declare a love for him. Bet you work in IT
Btw... you don’t fly to ‘American’ it’s called ... America
Ooops, just noticed the typo. Yep, America. No, I don’t work in IT.
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"Most Americans love him . Don’t believe what you read in the press and see on the news . Minorities are getting good jobs . The Market is doing great . America is safer . He was elected to save America not to be the Pope . By the way have you seen the wall around the Vatican ? Most Americans don’t love him. 3m more Americans voted for one of the least popular Democratic candidates in years, so within 4 words you’re already talking nonsense. You can’t just scream fake news and then give ‘facts’. How is America safer? What do you mean by ‘the market’? Obama came in after Bush and the Global Financial Crisis and (despite being far from perfect) corrected a lot and now Trump is reversing everything that they put in place to stop the same happening again. No idea what the pope has to do with this. Actually it was Bill Clinton who removed the protections put in place after the great depression. You know, the husband of the one who lost. " Are you making the mistake here in thinking because I think Trump is an absolute bellend, that must mean I like Bill/Hillary Clinton/Obama? | |||
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"Most Americans love him . Don’t believe what you read in the press and see on the news . Minorities are getting good jobs . The Market is doing great . America is safer . He was elected to save America not to be the Pope . By the way have you seen the wall around the Vatican ? Most Americans don’t love him. 3m more Americans voted for one of the least popular Democratic candidates in years, so within 4 words you’re already talking nonsense. You can’t just scream fake news and then give ‘facts’. How is America safer? What do you mean by ‘the market’? Obama came in after Bush and the Global Financial Crisis and (despite being far from perfect) corrected a lot and now Trump is reversing everything that they put in place to stop the same happening again. No idea what the pope has to do with this. The guy who wrote the op you quoted comes from New Jersey , and I would pay way more heed in what he says than you . Just as I would if a person from England was writing about what people in England thought about our prime minster . Hang on... are you disputing the fact that more people voted for Hillary Clinton than Trump..? Are you disputing that Trump has an approval rating of circa 45% (at best)? Or because one guy says most Americans love Trump you just have to go with that?" No , none of the above . I’m just saying I’d sooner listen to a resident of the USA about how the president is doing , rather than a chap living in Manchester . That’s all . | |||
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"Most Americans love him . Don’t believe what you read in the press and see on the news . Minorities are getting good jobs . The Market is doing great . America is safer . He was elected to save America not to be the Pope . By the way have you seen the wall around the Vatican ? Most Americans don’t love him. 3m more Americans voted for one of the least popular Democratic candidates in years, so within 4 words you’re already talking nonsense. You can’t just scream fake news and then give ‘facts’. How is America safer? What do you mean by ‘the market’? Obama came in after Bush and the Global Financial Crisis and (despite being far from perfect) corrected a lot and now Trump is reversing everything that they put in place to stop the same happening again. No idea what the pope has to do with this. Actually it was Bill Clinton who removed the protections put in place after the great depression. You know, the husband of the one who lost. Are you making the mistake here in thinking because I think Trump is an absolute bellend, that must mean I like Bill/Hillary Clinton/Obama? " No and i think that aspect of your criticism is objective. But I'm just pointing out that Obama wouldn't have needed to pass anything if Clinton hadn't removed it. The 2008 financial crisis would have been impossible if Clinton hadn't signed the financial services modernization act 2000. | |||
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"Most Americans love him . Don’t believe what you read in the press and see on the news . Minorities are getting good jobs . The Market is doing great . America is safer . He was elected to save America not to be the Pope . By the way have you seen the wall around the Vatican ? Most Americans don’t love him. 3m more Americans voted for one of the least popular Democratic candidates in years, so within 4 words you’re already talking nonsense. You can’t just scream fake news and then give ‘facts’. How is America safer? What do you mean by ‘the market’? Obama came in after Bush and the Global Financial Crisis and (despite being far from perfect) corrected a lot and now Trump is reversing everything that they put in place to stop the same happening again. No idea what the pope has to do with this. I fly to American a few times a month and I rarely meet people who declare a love for him. Bet you work in IT
Btw... you don’t fly to ‘American’ it’s called ... America
Ooops, just noticed the typo. Yep, America. No, I don’t work in IT.
Lost that bet but I’m just going to guess I’m not to far off ...
Way off. "Ok - correct my fake news lol or give me a scooby doo .. ‘clue’ translated | |||
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"Most Americans love him . Don’t believe what you read in the press and see on the news . Minorities are getting good jobs . The Market is doing great . America is safer . He was elected to save America not to be the Pope . By the way have you seen the wall around the Vatican ? Most Americans don’t love him. 3m more Americans voted for one of the least popular Democratic candidates in years, so within 4 words you’re already talking nonsense. You can’t just scream fake news and then give ‘facts’. How is America safer? What do you mean by ‘the market’? Obama came in after Bush and the Global Financial Crisis and (despite being far from perfect) corrected a lot and now Trump is reversing everything that they put in place to stop the same happening again. No idea what the pope has to do with this. The guy who wrote the op you quoted comes from New Jersey , and I would pay way more heed in what he says than you . Just as I would if a person from England was writing about what people in England thought about our prime minster . Hang on... are you disputing the fact that more people voted for Hillary Clinton than Trump..? Are you disputing that Trump has an approval rating of circa 45% (at best)? Or because one guy says most Americans love Trump you just have to go with that? No , none of the above . I’m just saying I’d sooner listen to a resident of the USA about how the president is doing , rather than a chap living in Manchester . That’s all ." ‘Most Americans love Trump’. If only there was some way to prove that, like an election. Or maybe opinion polls? If somebody straight up lies in their very first sentence, I’m not sure how much trust you should be putting in their statement. | |||
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"Most Americans love him . Don’t believe what you read in the press and see on the news . Minorities are getting good jobs . The Market is doing great . America is safer . He was elected to save America not to be the Pope . By the way have you seen the wall around the Vatican ? Most Americans don’t love him. 3m more Americans voted for one of the least popular Democratic candidates in years, so within 4 words you’re already talking nonsense. You can’t just scream fake news and then give ‘facts’. How is America safer? What do you mean by ‘the market’? Obama came in after Bush and the Global Financial Crisis and (despite being far from perfect) corrected a lot and now Trump is reversing everything that they put in place to stop the same happening again. No idea what the pope has to do with this. I fly to American a few times a month and I rarely meet people who declare a love for him. Bet you work in IT
Btw... you don’t fly to ‘American’ it’s called ... America
Ooops, just noticed the typo. Yep, America. No, I don’t work in IT.
Lost that bet but I’m just going to guess I’m not to far off ...
Way off.
Ok - correct my fake news lol or give me a scooby doo .. ‘clue’ translated"I spend my working day in the skies. | |||
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"Most Americans love him . Don’t believe what you read in the press and see on the news . Minorities are getting good jobs . The Market is doing great . America is safer . He was elected to save America not to be the Pope . By the way have you seen the wall around the Vatican ? Most Americans don’t love him. 3m more Americans voted for one of the least popular Democratic candidates in years, so within 4 words you’re already talking nonsense. You can’t just scream fake news and then give ‘facts’. How is America safer? What do you mean by ‘the market’? Obama came in after Bush and the Global Financial Crisis and (despite being far from perfect) corrected a lot and now Trump is reversing everything that they put in place to stop the same happening again. No idea what the pope has to do with this. Actually it was Bill Clinton who removed the protections put in place after the great depression. You know, the husband of the one who lost. Are you making the mistake here in thinking because I think Trump is an absolute bellend, that must mean I like Bill/Hillary Clinton/Obama? No and i think that aspect of your criticism is objective. But I'm just pointing out that Obama wouldn't have needed to pass anything if Clinton hadn't removed it. The 2008 financial crisis would have been impossible if Clinton hadn't signed the financial services modernization act 2000. " I really really do not disagree with that. My point was Obama put things in place for the market to recover, Trump has rolled that back and certainly made consumers more liable to be fucked over again. Obama should have gone much much further. | |||
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"Most Americans love him . Don’t believe what you read in the press and see on the news . Minorities are getting good jobs . The Market is doing great . America is safer . He was elected to save America not to be the Pope . By the way have you seen the wall around the Vatican ? Most Americans don’t love him. 3m more Americans voted for one of the least popular Democratic candidates in years, so within 4 words you’re already talking nonsense. You can’t just scream fake news and then give ‘facts’. How is America safer? What do you mean by ‘the market’? Obama came in after Bush and the Global Financial Crisis and (despite being far from perfect) corrected a lot and now Trump is reversing everything that they put in place to stop the same happening again. No idea what the pope has to do with this. Actually it was Bill Clinton who removed the protections put in place after the great depression. You know, the husband of the one who lost. Are you making the mistake here in thinking because I think Trump is an absolute bellend, that must mean I like Bill/Hillary Clinton/Obama? No and i think that aspect of your criticism is objective. But I'm just pointing out that Obama wouldn't have needed to pass anything if Clinton hadn't removed it. The 2008 financial crisis would have been impossible if Clinton hadn't signed the financial services modernization act 2000. I really really do not disagree with that. My point was Obama put things in place for the market to recover, Trump has rolled that back and certainly made consumers more liable to be fucked over again. Obama should have gone much much further." Agreed. No contest, your honour. | |||
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"Most Americans love him . Don’t believe what you read in the press and see on the news . Minorities are getting good jobs . The Market is doing great . America is safer . He was elected to save America not to be the Pope . By the way have you seen the wall around the Vatican ? Most Americans don’t love him. 3m more Americans voted for one of the least popular Democratic candidates in years, so within 4 words you’re already talking nonsense. You can’t just scream fake news and then give ‘facts’. How is America safer? What do you mean by ‘the market’? Obama came in after Bush and the Global Financial Crisis and (despite being far from perfect) corrected a lot and now Trump is reversing everything that they put in place to stop the same happening again. No idea what the pope has to do with this. I fly to American a few times a month and I rarely meet people who declare a love for him. Bet you work in IT
Btw... you don’t fly to ‘American’ it’s called ... America
Ooops, just noticed the typo. Yep, America. No, I don’t work in IT.
Lost that bet but I’m just going to guess I’m not to far off ...
Way off.
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"Very hard to answer when analysing stupid people. If you can't recognise his strategy, then you're naive at best. A more objective criticism would be to say he's shameless to pursue the strategy he does. But he executes it with a very high degree of skill and that is incompatible with stupidity. " Sounds like someone has been shagging trump on the sly | |||
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"Most Americans love him . Don’t believe what you read in the press and see on the news . Minorities are getting good jobs . The Market is doing great . America is safer . He was elected to save America not to be the Pope . By the way have you seen the wall around the Vatican ? Most Americans don’t love him. 3m more Americans voted for one of the least popular Democratic candidates in years, so within 4 words you’re already talking nonsense. You can’t just scream fake news and then give ‘facts’. How is America safer? What do you mean by ‘the market’? Obama came in after Bush and the Global Financial Crisis and (despite being far from perfect) corrected a lot and now Trump is reversing everything that they put in place to stop the same happening again. No idea what the pope has to do with this. Actually it was Bill Clinton who removed the protections put in place after the great depression. You know, the husband of the one who lost. Are you making the mistake here in thinking because I think Trump is an absolute bellend, that must mean I like Bill/Hillary Clinton/Obama? No and i think that aspect of your criticism is objective. But I'm just pointing out that Obama wouldn't have needed to pass anything if Clinton hadn't removed it. The 2008 financial crisis would have been impossible if Clinton hadn't signed the financial services modernization act 2000. I really really do not disagree with that. My point was Obama put things in place for the market to recover, Trump has rolled that back and certainly made consumers more liable to be fucked over again. Obama should have gone much much further." . No he didn't, he continued with Bush's bailouts but ramped then up double, he gave free money away to every billionaire while telling poor people, sorry there's no money it's austerity for you!. The man was a complete cunt who turned 180 degrees on everything he promised to do before he was elected, the Mexican kids being separated was a an Obama continuation of Bush policy, if the guy had been white and a republican you'd all have been flying blimps of outrage | |||
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"Most Americans love him . Don’t believe what you read in the press and see on the news . Minorities are getting good jobs . The Market is doing great . America is safer . He was elected to save America not to be the Pope . By the way have you seen the wall around the Vatican ? Most Americans don’t love him. 3m more Americans voted for one of the least popular Democratic candidates in years, so within 4 words you’re already talking nonsense. You can’t just scream fake news and then give ‘facts’. How is America safer? What do you mean by ‘the market’? Obama came in after Bush and the Global Financial Crisis and (despite being far from perfect) corrected a lot and now Trump is reversing everything that they put in place to stop the same happening again. No idea what the pope has to do with this. Actually it was Bill Clinton who removed the protections put in place after the great depression. You know, the husband of the one who lost. Are you making the mistake here in thinking because I think Trump is an absolute bellend, that must mean I like Bill/Hillary Clinton/Obama? No and i think that aspect of your criticism is objective. But I'm just pointing out that Obama wouldn't have needed to pass anything if Clinton hadn't removed it. The 2008 financial crisis would have been impossible if Clinton hadn't signed the financial services modernization act 2000. I really really do not disagree with that. My point was Obama put things in place for the market to recover, Trump has rolled that back and certainly made consumers more liable to be fucked over again. Obama should have gone much much further.. No he didn't, he continued with Bush's bailouts but ramped then up double, he gave free money away to every billionaire while telling poor people, sorry there's no money it's austerity for you!. The man was a complete cunt who turned 180 degrees on everything he promised to do before he was elected, the Mexican kids being separated was a an Obama continuation of Bush policy, if the guy had been white and a republican you'd all have been flying blimps of outrage" Several things in this one... ‘Mexican’ kids being separated - Obama era policy kept kids in cages which was abhorrent. But these were kids without guardians. They weren’t separated as they are now. I’m English, I couldn’t give a fuck if someone’s Republican or Democrat. And if you think the first ever Black president had it easy then I don’t know what to say. Again, there’s this weird thing with Trump supporters where because I/others criticise Trump for being an abhorrent human being, it’s assumed we love Obama. I literally said in the post you quoted that Obama went nowhere near far enough, do you think Trump is redistributing that wealth..?! | |||
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"Most Americans love him . Don’t believe what you read in the press and see on the news . Minorities are getting good jobs . The Market is doing great . America is safer . He was elected to save America not to be the Pope . By the way have you seen the wall around the Vatican ? Most Americans don’t love him. 3m more Americans voted for one of the least popular Democratic candidates in years, so within 4 words you’re already talking nonsense. You can’t just scream fake news and then give ‘facts’. How is America safer? What do you mean by ‘the market’? Obama came in after Bush and the Global Financial Crisis and (despite being far from perfect) corrected a lot and now Trump is reversing everything that they put in place to stop the same happening again. No idea what the pope has to do with this. Actually it was Bill Clinton who removed the protections put in place after the great depression. You know, the husband of the one who lost. Are you making the mistake here in thinking because I think Trump is an absolute bellend, that must mean I like Bill/Hillary Clinton/Obama? No and i think that aspect of your criticism is objective. But I'm just pointing out that Obama wouldn't have needed to pass anything if Clinton hadn't removed it. The 2008 financial crisis would have been impossible if Clinton hadn't signed the financial services modernization act 2000. I really really do not disagree with that. My point was Obama put things in place for the market to recover, Trump has rolled that back and certainly made consumers more liable to be fucked over again. Obama should have gone much much further.. No he didn't, he continued with Bush's bailouts but ramped then up double, he gave free money away to every billionaire while telling poor people, sorry there's no money it's austerity for you!. The man was a complete cunt who turned 180 degrees on everything he promised to do before he was elected, the Mexican kids being separated was a an Obama continuation of Bush policy, if the guy had been white and a republican you'd all have been flying blimps of outrage Several things in this one... ‘Mexican’ kids being separated - Obama era policy kept kids in cages which was abhorrent. But these were kids without guardians. They weren’t separated as they are now. I’m English, I couldn’t give a fuck if someone’s Republican or Democrat. And if you think the first ever Black president had it easy then I don’t know what to say. Again, there’s this weird thing with Trump supporters where because I/others criticise Trump for being an abhorrent human being, it’s assumed we love Obama. I literally said in the post you quoted that Obama went nowhere near far enough, do you think Trump is redistributing that wealth..?! " . No I think your deluded by politics if you think anybody gives a rat's arse about you, whether they be brown white or pink!. Do I think trump is redistributing wealth, hell yes, just like Obama did and Bush before him and Clinton before him and Bush before him and Regan before him. Again this weird shit when you critical of Obama is you presume I'm a trump supporter, aha guess again. | |||
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"Is Trump a racist?" He's clearly a fascist. In most respects, he is dumb as fuck. But he knows market testing. He knows how to do it, with minimal damage to his image, and without flaring up too many red flags. He's literally creating concentration camps, and we still let him into this country. I saw a quote recently; If you're worried about America turning into Nazi Germany, we're not at the start of it, we're several stages down the line. I only hope we pick the right side to fight on, regardless of "the might of the united states military" | |||
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"A politician that does what he pledge to do shame the UK gov don't do the same " we totally agree with this. Ppl just take him on face value and don't actually listen to him properly. He's not racist just wants to clamp down on illegal immigration TBH Tereasa may needs to take a leaf out of his book. And actually do what she promises. When we voted out we meant out and not just half out That's our rant over | |||
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"Very hard to answer when analysing stupid people. If you can't recognise his strategy, then you're naive at best. A more objective criticism would be to say he's shameless to pursue the strategy he does. But he executes it with a very high degree of skill and that is incompatible with stupidity. " ^ This . One thing Trump isn't is stupid !! | |||
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"Yes, Trump is at the very least had unconscious racism. It has been well documented that Trump discourages black tenants at Trumps properties on the grounds that they lowered the rental value. I'd say that makes him a racist. I don’t think it does , because to be successful you need to be aware of your market . If it’s true that black tenants lower the rental value , so be it , but you can’t blame Trump for that . It shows that you care more about money than fighting racism, which at the very least makes you a condoner of racism. Oh dear. Sometimes you really let ideology overcome your own powers of logic, which are often quite good. I'm not angry, I'm disappointed. " Being patronised by you is a bit like Denis Healey being criticised by Geoffrey Howe. If you are prepared to make money by facilitating peoples racist prejudices then you are, in fact, condoning racism. I can't see anything illogical about. I wouldn't do a job that involved me facilitating racism no matter how well it paid. | |||
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"A politician that does what he pledge to do shame the UK gov don't do the same we totally agree with this. Ppl just take him on face value and don't actually listen to him properly. He's not racist just wants to clamp down on illegal immigration TBH Tereasa may needs to take a leaf out of his book. And actually do what she promises. When we voted out we meant out and not just half out That's our rant over "Hear hear! | |||
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"Yes, Trump is at the very least had unconscious racism. It has been well documented that Trump discourages black tenants at Trumps properties on the grounds that they lowered the rental value. I'd say that makes him a racist. I don’t think it does , because to be successful you need to be aware of your market . If it’s true that black tenants lower the rental value , so be it , but you can’t blame Trump for that . It shows that you care more about money than fighting racism, which at the very least makes you a condoner of racism. Oh dear. Sometimes you really let ideology overcome your own powers of logic, which are often quite good. I'm not angry, I'm disappointed. Being patronised by you is a bit like Denis Healey being criticised by Geoffrey Howe. If you are prepared to make money by facilitating peoples racist prejudices then you are, in fact, condoning racism. I can't see anything illogical about. I wouldn't do a job that involved me facilitating racism no matter how well it paid. " It's a nonsense argument and you know it. Trump has a fiduciary duty, i notice you haven't tried to argue it was an incorrect business strategy. Using your logic, I'd say anyone who votes Hillary is facilitating genocide because of her stance on late stage abortions and partial birth abortions. If you are prepared to vote for a candidate by facilitating genocide then you are, in fact, condoning genocide. I can't see anything illogical about. I wouldn't vote for a candidate facilitating genocide no matter how bad the alternative was. | |||
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"A politician that does what he pledge to do shame the UK gov don't do the same we totally agree with this. Ppl just take him on face value and don't actually listen to him properly. He's not racist just wants to clamp down on illegal immigration TBH Tereasa may needs to take a leaf out of his book. And actually do what she promises. When we voted out we meant out and not just half out That's our rant over
Hear hear! "Well said the word racist is used to much to silence people from voicing an opinion, one of the reason over a 1000 girls where groomed and sexually abused in Yorkshire. " you can't say that its racist". | |||
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"Yes, Trump is at the very least had unconscious racism. It has been well documented that Trump discourages black tenants at Trumps properties on the grounds that they lowered the rental value. I'd say that makes him a racist. I don’t think it does , because to be successful you need to be aware of your market . If it’s true that black tenants lower the rental value , so be it , but you can’t blame Trump for that . It shows that you care more about money than fighting racism, which at the very least makes you a condoner of racism. Oh dear. Sometimes you really let ideology overcome your own powers of logic, which are often quite good. I'm not angry, I'm disappointed. Being patronised by you is a bit like Denis Healey being criticised by Geoffrey Howe. If you are prepared to make money by facilitating peoples racist prejudices then you are, in fact, condoning racism. I can't see anything illogical about. I wouldn't do a job that involved me facilitating racism no matter how well it paid. It's a nonsense argument and you know it. Trump has a fiduciary duty, i notice you haven't tried to argue it was an incorrect business strategy. Using your logic, I'd say anyone who votes Hillary is facilitating genocide because of her stance on late stage abortions and partial birth abortions. If you are prepared to vote for a candidate by facilitating genocide then you are, in fact, condoning genocide. I can't see anything illogical about. I wouldn't vote for a candidate facilitating genocide no matter how bad the alternative was." If trumps business involved facilitating racism as it appears to have done then the morally correct thing to do would be to get out of said business. In any event the behaviour described is unlawful in the UK. And I suspect it is the same in the USA. If that's right, his legal duty was of course not to do it. If you believe that Clintons stance on abortions amounts to genocide*, then your logic about people voting for her is completely accurate. * as it happens, it could only conceivably be genocide if the abortions were undertaken with a view to exterminating a particular ethnic group. | |||
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"A politician that does what he pledge to do shame the UK gov don't do the same we totally agree with this. Ppl just take him on face value and don't actually listen to him properly. He's not racist just wants to clamp down on illegal immigration TBH Tereasa may needs to take a leaf out of his book. And actually do what she promises. When we voted out we meant out and not just half out That's our rant over
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Well said the word racist is used to much to silence people from voicing an opinion, one of the reason over a 1000 girls where groomed and sexually abused in Yorkshire. " you can't say that its racist"."And yet most abuse is carried out by white middle aged males. I also take it that you missed the news story about the white grooming gang that was recently convicted; although the press didn't give it much coverage and it doesn't fit some people's world view | |||
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"Yes, Trump is at the very least had unconscious racism. It has been well documented that Trump discourages black tenants at Trumps properties on the grounds that they lowered the rental value. I'd say that makes him a racist. I don’t think it does , because to be successful you need to be aware of your market . If it’s true that black tenants lower the rental value , so be it , but you can’t blame Trump for that . It shows that you care more about money than fighting racism, which at the very least makes you a condoner of racism. Oh dear. Sometimes you really let ideology overcome your own powers of logic, which are often quite good. I'm not angry, I'm disappointed. Being patronised by you is a bit like Denis Healey being criticised by Geoffrey Howe. If you are prepared to make money by facilitating peoples racist prejudices then you are, in fact, condoning racism. I can't see anything illogical about. I wouldn't do a job that involved me facilitating racism no matter how well it paid. It's a nonsense argument and you know it. Trump has a fiduciary duty, i notice you haven't tried to argue it was an incorrect business strategy. Using your logic, I'd say anyone who votes Hillary is facilitating genocide because of her stance on late stage abortions and partial birth abortions. If you are prepared to vote for a candidate by facilitating genocide then you are, in fact, condoning genocide. I can't see anything illogical about. I wouldn't vote for a candidate facilitating genocide no matter how bad the alternative was. If trumps business involved facilitating racism as it appears to have done then the morally correct thing to do would be to get out of said business. In any event the behaviour described is unlawful in the UK. And I suspect it is the same in the USA. If that's right, his legal duty was of course not to do it. If you believe that Clintons stance on abortions amounts to genocide*, then your logic about people voting for her is completely accurate. * as it happens, it could only conceivably be genocide if the abortions were undertaken with a view to exterminating a particular ethnic group. " Considering that abortions in america are White patients 39%, blacks 28%, Hispanics 25% and patients of other races and ethnicities for 9%, in a majority white country. Then yes I'll make the claim that abortion disproportionately kills ethnic minorities in america. I know you're not a Hillary supporter, but I'm glad we agree that Trump was the morally superior choice over the candidate the democrat party chose to present. | |||
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"A politician that does what he pledge to do shame the UK gov don't do the same we totally agree with this. Ppl just take him on face value and don't actually listen to him properly. He's not racist just wants to clamp down on illegal immigration TBH Tereasa may needs to take a leaf out of his book. And actually do what she promises. When we voted out we meant out and not just half out That's our rant over
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Well said the word racist is used to much to silence people from voicing an opinion, one of the reason over a 1000 girls where groomed and sexually abused in Yorkshire. " you can't say that its racist".
And yet most abuse is carried out by white middle aged males. I also take it that you missed the news story about the white grooming gang that was recently convicted; although the press didn't give it much coverage and it doesn't fit some people's world view"No, you're just moving the goal posts. Most paedophiles in the UK are white, hardly surprising because most people in the UK are white. Grooming gangs are overwhelmingly British-pakistani. Not british-asian, not British-indian but specifically British-pakistani. | |||
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"A politician that does what he pledge to do shame the UK gov don't do the same we totally agree with this. Ppl just take him on face value and don't actually listen to him properly. He's not racist just wants to clamp down on illegal immigration TBH Tereasa may needs to take a leaf out of his book. And actually do what she promises. When we voted out we meant out and not just half out That's our rant over
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Well said the word racist is used to much to silence people from voicing an opinion, one of the reason over a 1000 girls where groomed and sexually abused in Yorkshire. " you can't say that its racist".
And yet most abuse is carried out by white middle aged males. I also take it that you missed the news story about the white grooming gang that was recently convicted; although the press didn't give it much coverage and it doesn't fit some people's world view
No, you're just moving the goal posts. Most paedophiles in the UK are white, hardly surprising because most people in the UK are white. Grooming gangs are overwhelmingly British-pakistani. Not british-asian, not British-indian but specifically British-pakistani. "^ | |||
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"Yes, Trump is at the very least had unconscious racism. It has been well documented that Trump discourages black tenants at Trumps properties on the grounds that they lowered the rental value. I'd say that makes him a racist. I don’t think it does , because to be successful you need to be aware of your market . If it’s true that black tenants lower the rental value , so be it , but you can’t blame Trump for that . It shows that you care more about money than fighting racism, which at the very least makes you a condoner of racism. Oh dear. Sometimes you really let ideology overcome your own powers of logic, which are often quite good. I'm not angry, I'm disappointed. Being patronised by you is a bit like Denis Healey being criticised by Geoffrey Howe. If you are prepared to make money by facilitating peoples racist prejudices then you are, in fact, condoning racism. I can't see anything illogical about. I wouldn't do a job that involved me facilitating racism no matter how well it paid. It's a nonsense argument and you know it. Trump has a fiduciary duty, i notice you haven't tried to argue it was an incorrect business strategy. Using your logic, I'd say anyone who votes Hillary is facilitating genocide because of her stance on late stage abortions and partial birth abortions. If you are prepared to vote for a candidate by facilitating genocide then you are, in fact, condoning genocide. I can't see anything illogical about. I wouldn't vote for a candidate facilitating genocide no matter how bad the alternative was. If trumps business involved facilitating racism as it appears to have done then the morally correct thing to do would be to get out of said business. In any event the behaviour described is unlawful in the UK. And I suspect it is the same in the USA. If that's right, his legal duty was of course not to do it. If you believe that Clintons stance on abortions amounts to genocide*, then your logic about people voting for her is completely accurate. * as it happens, it could only conceivably be genocide if the abortions were undertaken with a view to exterminating a particular ethnic group. Considering that abortions in america are White patients 39%, blacks 28%, Hispanics 25% and patients of other races and ethnicities for 9%, in a majority white country. Then yes I'll make the claim that abortion disproportionately kills ethnic minorities in america. I know you're not a Hillary supporter, but I'm glad we agree that Trump was the morally superior choice over the candidate the democrat party chose to present. " You know very well I don't agree with you and pretending I do just makes you look silly. Genocide involves an intent to exterminate a particular racial group so the fact that certain ethnicities are over represented in abortion statistics doesn't even come close to satisfying the definition. There's also the minor point that the people having the abortions are the same ethnicity as the aborted fetus. There's completely respectable anti abortion argument so I really don't know why you are sticking to an obviously inappropriate argument. | |||
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"Yes, Trump is at the very least had unconscious racism. It has been well documented that Trump discourages black tenants at Trumps properties on the grounds that they lowered the rental value. I'd say that makes him a racist. I don’t think it does , because to be successful you need to be aware of your market . If it’s true that black tenants lower the rental value , so be it , but you can’t blame Trump for that . It shows that you care more about money than fighting racism, which at the very least makes you a condoner of racism. Oh dear. Sometimes you really let ideology overcome your own powers of logic, which are often quite good. I'm not angry, I'm disappointed. Being patronised by you is a bit like Denis Healey being criticised by Geoffrey Howe. If you are prepared to make money by facilitating peoples racist prejudices then you are, in fact, condoning racism. I can't see anything illogical about. I wouldn't do a job that involved me facilitating racism no matter how well it paid. It's a nonsense argument and you know it. Trump has a fiduciary duty, i notice you haven't tried to argue it was an incorrect business strategy. Using your logic, I'd say anyone who votes Hillary is facilitating genocide because of her stance on late stage abortions and partial birth abortions. If you are prepared to vote for a candidate by facilitating genocide then you are, in fact, condoning genocide. I can't see anything illogical about. I wouldn't vote for a candidate facilitating genocide no matter how bad the alternative was. If trumps business involved facilitating racism as it appears to have done then the morally correct thing to do would be to get out of said business. In any event the behaviour described is unlawful in the UK. And I suspect it is the same in the USA. If that's right, his legal duty was of course not to do it. If you believe that Clintons stance on abortions amounts to genocide*, then your logic about people voting for her is completely accurate. * as it happens, it could only conceivably be genocide if the abortions were undertaken with a view to exterminating a particular ethnic group. Considering that abortions in america are White patients 39%, blacks 28%, Hispanics 25% and patients of other races and ethnicities for 9%, in a majority white country. Then yes I'll make the claim that abortion disproportionately kills ethnic minorities in america. I know you're not a Hillary supporter, but I'm glad we agree that Trump was the morally superior choice over the candidate the democrat party chose to present. You know very well I don't agree with you and pretending I do just makes you look silly. Genocide involves an intent to exterminate a particular racial group so the fact that certain ethnicities are over represented in abortion statistics doesn't even come close to satisfying the definition. There's also the minor point that the people having the abortions are the same ethnicity as the aborted fetus. There's completely respectable anti abortion argument so I really don't know why you are sticking to an obviously inappropriate argument. " Nice try moving the goal posts. It's not Hillary's stance on abortion generally that alienates people, it's her stance on late stage abortions and partial birth abortions. Rascim involves an intent to unjustly discriminate against a particular racial group so the fact that certain ethnicities are over represented in the tenants Trump turned down doesn't even come close to satisfying the definition. | |||
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"Yes, Trump is at the very least had unconscious racism. It has been well documented that Trump discourages black tenants at Trumps properties on the grounds that they lowered the rental value. I'd say that makes him a racist. I don’t think it does , because to be successful you need to be aware of your market . If it’s true that black tenants lower the rental value , so be it , but you can’t blame Trump for that . It shows that you care more about money than fighting racism, which at the very least makes you a condoner of racism. Oh dear. Sometimes you really let ideology overcome your own powers of logic, which are often quite good. I'm not angry, I'm disappointed. Being patronised by you is a bit like Denis Healey being criticised by Geoffrey Howe. If you are prepared to make money by facilitating peoples racist prejudices then you are, in fact, condoning racism. I can't see anything illogical about. I wouldn't do a job that involved me facilitating racism no matter how well it paid. It's a nonsense argument and you know it. Trump has a fiduciary duty, i notice you haven't tried to argue it was an incorrect business strategy. Using your logic, I'd say anyone who votes Hillary is facilitating genocide because of her stance on late stage abortions and partial birth abortions. If you are prepared to vote for a candidate by facilitating genocide then you are, in fact, condoning genocide. I can't see anything illogical about. I wouldn't vote for a candidate facilitating genocide no matter how bad the alternative was. If trumps business involved facilitating racism as it appears to have done then the morally correct thing to do would be to get out of said business. In any event the behaviour described is unlawful in the UK. And I suspect it is the same in the USA. If that's right, his legal duty was of course not to do it. If you believe that Clintons stance on abortions amounts to genocide*, then your logic about people voting for her is completely accurate. * as it happens, it could only conceivably be genocide if the abortions were undertaken with a view to exterminating a particular ethnic group. Considering that abortions in america are White patients 39%, blacks 28%, Hispanics 25% and patients of other races and ethnicities for 9%, in a majority white country. Then yes I'll make the claim that abortion disproportionately kills ethnic minorities in america. I know you're not a Hillary supporter, but I'm glad we agree that Trump was the morally superior choice over the candidate the democrat party chose to present. You know very well I don't agree with you and pretending I do just makes you look silly. Genocide involves an intent to exterminate a particular racial group so the fact that certain ethnicities are over represented in abortion statistics doesn't even come close to satisfying the definition. There's also the minor point that the people having the abortions are the same ethnicity as the aborted fetus. There's completely respectable anti abortion argument so I really don't know why you are sticking to an obviously inappropriate argument. Nice try moving the goal posts. It's not Hillary's stance on abortion generally that alienates people, it's her stance on late stage abortions and partial birth abortions. Rascim involves an intent to unjustly discriminate against a particular racial group so the fact that certain ethnicities are over represented in the tenants Trump turned down doesn't even come close to satisfying the definition." I am not moving the goal posts about Clinton. Whether the argument is about abortion per se or late term abortion, the genocide argument is self evidently ludicrous. Who are the people intending to exterminate non white Americans and how is this genocide compatible with the non white proportion of the US population increasing over God knows how many years? Re Trump, the allegation was that he deliberately refused to rent to black people because his predominantly white tenants didn't like living next to black people and he was willing to go along with his tenants' racism as he thought it would help his business. As I say, if that were true, and Trump denied it, it would be, as a matter of law, unlawful race discrimination. Hence why the government sued him and hence why the case was settled on the basis of Trump changing his business practices. I really don't know why people are leaping to defend Trump on something he says he didn't do and which no one concerned appears to dispute would be wrong if it had happened. | |||
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"Yes, Trump is at the very least had unconscious racism. It has been well documented that Trump discourages black tenants at Trumps properties on the grounds that they lowered the rental value. I'd say that makes him a racist. I don’t think it does , because to be successful you need to be aware of your market . If it’s true that black tenants lower the rental value , so be it , but you can’t blame Trump for that . It shows that you care more about money than fighting racism, which at the very least makes you a condoner of racism. Oh dear. Sometimes you really let ideology overcome your own powers of logic, which are often quite good. I'm not angry, I'm disappointed. Being patronised by you is a bit like Denis Healey being criticised by Geoffrey Howe. If you are prepared to make money by facilitating peoples racist prejudices then you are, in fact, condoning racism. I can't see anything illogical about. I wouldn't do a job that involved me facilitating racism no matter how well it paid. It's a nonsense argument and you know it. Trump has a fiduciary duty, i notice you haven't tried to argue it was an incorrect business strategy. Using your logic, I'd say anyone who votes Hillary is facilitating genocide because of her stance on late stage abortions and partial birth abortions. If you are prepared to vote for a candidate by facilitating genocide then you are, in fact, condoning genocide. I can't see anything illogical about. I wouldn't vote for a candidate facilitating genocide no matter how bad the alternative was. If trumps business involved facilitating racism as it appears to have done then the morally correct thing to do would be to get out of said business. In any event the behaviour described is unlawful in the UK. And I suspect it is the same in the USA. If that's right, his legal duty was of course not to do it. If you believe that Clintons stance on abortions amounts to genocide*, then your logic about people voting for her is completely accurate. * as it happens, it could only conceivably be genocide if the abortions were undertaken with a view to exterminating a particular ethnic group. Considering that abortions in america are White patients 39%, blacks 28%, Hispanics 25% and patients of other races and ethnicities for 9%, in a majority white country. Then yes I'll make the claim that abortion disproportionately kills ethnic minorities in america. I know you're not a Hillary supporter, but I'm glad we agree that Trump was the morally superior choice over the candidate the democrat party chose to present. You know very well I don't agree with you and pretending I do just makes you look silly. Genocide involves an intent to exterminate a particular racial group so the fact that certain ethnicities are over represented in abortion statistics doesn't even come close to satisfying the definition. There's also the minor point that the people having the abortions are the same ethnicity as the aborted fetus. There's completely respectable anti abortion argument so I really don't know why you are sticking to an obviously inappropriate argument. Nice try moving the goal posts. It's not Hillary's stance on abortion generally that alienates people, it's her stance on late stage abortions and partial birth abortions. Rascim involves an intent to unjustly discriminate against a particular racial group so the fact that certain ethnicities are over represented in the tenants Trump turned down doesn't even come close to satisfying the definition. I am not moving the goal posts about Clinton. Whether the argument is about abortion per se or late term abortion, the genocide argument is self evidently ludicrous. Who are the people intending to exterminate non white Americans and how is this genocide compatible with the non white proportion of the US population increasing over God knows how many years? Re Trump, the allegation was that he deliberately refused to rent to black people because his predominantly white tenants didn't like living next to black people and he was willing to go along with his tenants' racism as he thought it would help his business. As I say, if that were true, and Trump denied it, it would be, as a matter of law, unlawful race discrimination. Hence why the government sued him and hence why the case was settled on the basis of Trump changing his business practices. I really don't know why people are leaping to defend Trump on something he says he didn't do and which no one concerned appears to dispute would be wrong if it had happened. " It's perfectly valid. If you think that killing babies who are perfectly viable outside the womb is ok, then you really have no moral foundation to be critising trump. | |||
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"Yes, Trump is at the very least had unconscious racism. It has been well documented that Trump discourages black tenants at Trumps properties on the grounds that they lowered the rental value. I'd say that makes him a racist. I don’t think it does , because to be successful you need to be aware of your market . If it’s true that black tenants lower the rental value , so be it , but you can’t blame Trump for that . It shows that you care more about money than fighting racism, which at the very least makes you a condoner of racism. Oh dear. Sometimes you really let ideology overcome your own powers of logic, which are often quite good. I'm not angry, I'm disappointed. Being patronised by you is a bit like Denis Healey being criticised by Geoffrey Howe. If you are prepared to make money by facilitating peoples racist prejudices then you are, in fact, condoning racism. I can't see anything illogical about. I wouldn't do a job that involved me facilitating racism no matter how well it paid. It's a nonsense argument and you know it. Trump has a fiduciary duty, i notice you haven't tried to argue it was an incorrect business strategy. Using your logic, I'd say anyone who votes Hillary is facilitating genocide because of her stance on late stage abortions and partial birth abortions. If you are prepared to vote for a candidate by facilitating genocide then you are, in fact, condoning genocide. I can't see anything illogical about. I wouldn't vote for a candidate facilitating genocide no matter how bad the alternative was. If trumps business involved facilitating racism as it appears to have done then the morally correct thing to do would be to get out of said business. In any event the behaviour described is unlawful in the UK. And I suspect it is the same in the USA. If that's right, his legal duty was of course not to do it. If you believe that Clintons stance on abortions amounts to genocide*, then your logic about people voting for her is completely accurate. * as it happens, it could only conceivably be genocide if the abortions were undertaken with a view to exterminating a particular ethnic group. Considering that abortions in america are White patients 39%, blacks 28%, Hispanics 25% and patients of other races and ethnicities for 9%, in a majority white country. Then yes I'll make the claim that abortion disproportionately kills ethnic minorities in america. I know you're not a Hillary supporter, but I'm glad we agree that Trump was the morally superior choice over the candidate the democrat party chose to present. You know very well I don't agree with you and pretending I do just makes you look silly. Genocide involves an intent to exterminate a particular racial group so the fact that certain ethnicities are over represented in abortion statistics doesn't even come close to satisfying the definition. There's also the minor point that the people having the abortions are the same ethnicity as the aborted fetus. There's completely respectable anti abortion argument so I really don't know why you are sticking to an obviously inappropriate argument. Nice try moving the goal posts. It's not Hillary's stance on abortion generally that alienates people, it's her stance on late stage abortions and partial birth abortions. Rascim involves an intent to unjustly discriminate against a particular racial group so the fact that certain ethnicities are over represented in the tenants Trump turned down doesn't even come close to satisfying the definition. I am not moving the goal posts about Clinton. Whether the argument is about abortion per se or late term abortion, the genocide argument is self evidently ludicrous. Who are the people intending to exterminate non white Americans and how is this genocide compatible with the non white proportion of the US population increasing over God knows how many years? Re Trump, the allegation was that he deliberately refused to rent to black people because his predominantly white tenants didn't like living next to black people and he was willing to go along with his tenants' racism as he thought it would help his business. As I say, if that were true, and Trump denied it, it would be, as a matter of law, unlawful race discrimination. Hence why the government sued him and hence why the case was settled on the basis of Trump changing his business practices. I really don't know why people are leaping to defend Trump on something he says he didn't do and which no one concerned appears to dispute would be wrong if it had happened. It's perfectly valid. If you think that killing babies who are perfectly viable outside the womb is ok, then you really have no moral foundation to be critising trump." I am arguing as to whether it's genocide. It clearly isn't. That is of course an entirely different issue as to whether late term abortion should be permitted, on which issue you will have noted I have not stated an opinion. | |||
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"I like him,straight to the points Which point are you referring to? "All points,you name a point and he's straight too it | |||
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"I like him,straight to the points Which point are you referring to? "the point would be " look who we've got, Mrs fudge,she wouldn't know a point if it poked her in the eye | |||
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"Very hard to answer when analysing stupid people. If you can't recognise his strategy, then you're naive at best. A more objective criticism would be to say he's shameless to pursue the strategy he does. But he executes it with a very high degree of skill and that is incompatible with stupidity. I think it’s a great shake up. Hope it paves the way for more doers and less talkers "
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"A politician that does what he pledge to do shame the UK gov don't do the same we totally agree with this. Ppl just take him on face value and don't actually listen to him properly. He's not racist just wants to clamp down on illegal immigration TBH Tereasa may needs to take a leaf out of his book. And actually do what she promises. When we voted out we meant out and not just half out That's our rant over
Hear hear! "I'll just leave this here. Read if you wish to, but not reading risks peril of being ignorant https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_views_of_Donald_Trump | |||
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"A politician that does what he pledge to do shame the UK gov don't do the same we totally agree with this. Ppl just take him on face value and don't actually listen to him properly. He's not racist just wants to clamp down on illegal immigration TBH Tereasa may needs to take a leaf out of his book. And actually do what she promises. When we voted out we meant out and not just half out That's our rant over
Hear hear!
I'll just leave this here. Read if you wish to, but not reading risks peril of being ignorant
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_views_of_Donald_Trump
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"A politician that does what he pledge to do shame the UK gov don't do the same we totally agree with this. Ppl just take him on face value and don't actually listen to him properly. He's not racist just wants to clamp down on illegal immigration TBH Tereasa may needs to take a leaf out of his book. And actually do what she promises. When we voted out we meant out and not just half out That's our rant over
Hear hear!
Well said the word racist is used to much to silence people from voicing an opinion, one of the reason over a 1000 girls where groomed and sexually abused in Yorkshire. " you can't say that its racist".
And yet most abuse is carried out by white middle aged males. I also take it that you missed the news story about the white grooming gang that was recently convicted; although the press didn't give it much coverage and it doesn't fit some people's world view"Missing the point or are you, I'm making the point the media tries to silence people with the threat of your a racist for telling the truth. The main reason grooming ganging in Yorkshire went on for for long was the authorities scared to arrest any in fear of being labelled a racist. | |||
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"He is a man that says it how it is but people hate that in a person as the truth hurts ,when they guy says anything it's cherry picked to suit the haters " He doesn’t say anything how it is. He lies and lies and lies, he spouts pig-ignorant nonsense, retweets Britain First racist posts etc. | |||
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"He is a man that says it how it is but people hate that in a person as the truth hurts ,when they guy says anything it's cherry picked to suit the haters He doesn’t say anything how it is. He lies and lies and lies, he spouts pig-ignorant nonsense, retweets Britain First racist posts etc. " May I ask to name a few? | |||
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"A politician that does what he pledge to do shame the UK gov don't do the same we totally agree with this. Ppl just take him on face value and don't actually listen to him properly. He's not racist just wants to clamp down on illegal immigration TBH Tereasa may needs to take a leaf out of his book. And actually do what she promises. When we voted out we meant out and not just half out That's our rant over
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I'll just leave this here. Read if you wish to, but not reading risks peril of being ignorant
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_views_of_Donald_Trump
Read it, I have no idea which part of that you think makes your case for you. "Take that as a prologue to putting a very specific travel ban in place and creating CONCENTRATION CAMPS, then I think I do have a case for an argument. I'm pretty sure Hulk Hogan claimed not to be racist till he got caught being recorded making racist statements. When you look at it, illegal immigration is such a minor factor that it isn't really that much of an issue. It just gets made out to be a bigger issue than what it is. The problem is that this sort of behaviour deters legal immigration, which is why we have had a depletion in foreign workers in this country. Yes, you can say 'more work for the people in the country', but people who say that also say ' I wouldn't do that job for that pay'. Foreign workers don't get paid less, they just work harder. And, let's be honest, it starts here, but where does it end. When a man does something like tearing families apart, and not commenting on the fact that a woman who was having a miscarriage got no medical attention at all, then anything is possible, especially with his fanbase | |||
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