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By *good-being-bad OP Man
over a year ago
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I don't have one... I'm constantly seeing adverts for them..all saying they'll save me money.. I'm not sure how unless they'll turn lights and other electrical appliances equipment off faster than I already do..   |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"I don’t have one, and unless they can magically make my kids use less electric and switch things off then it’s a waste x "
The idea is that it will show you where you are wasting energy and your bills will better reflect what you have used. So, you could choose not to use the tumble dryer to reduce your outgoings etc.
I'm more concerned that they don't appear to be fully secure yet.
I did switch to a water meter by accident and it has saved me about £200 a year.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I have 1 it's good shows you what appliances are using a lot of electric etc so you can choose to buy a more energy efficient model when you need to replace it |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Definitely avoid them unless you want Putin's mob switching all your stuff on and off while you are out."
A smart meter shows you usage. It's not connected to any appliances |
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By *good-being-bad OP Man
over a year ago
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"We have one, can't remember the last time we actually checked it. If you already are conscious of saving, probably won't make any difference to you"
I'm from a generation that had to be careful with utilities..so I turn everything off as soon as I'm finished with it... only thing I can see and it's no real benefit to me.. is the utility companies need less or zero meter readers Saving them fortunes |
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"I don't have one... I'm constantly seeing adverts for them..all saying they'll save me money.. I'm not sure how unless they'll turn lights and other electrical appliances equipment off faster than I already do.. "
Yep, as the saying goes "There's no such thing as a free lunch", so when they offer you one for free ask yourself what's the catch?
Listen to their adverts very carefully and it will tell you the saving (if any) only comes from when you monitor your usage to find any appliances (particularly power hungry ones) that you could turn off a bit more frequently.
No, the benefit is to the power company: they save on meter readers, they can eventually use the meter to vary tariffs (to price you off the heavy demand times in other words).
Later on wait until your smart electric car talks to your smart electric meter...bet you won't be charging your batteries at anything like today's low rates once every one is doing it. |
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By *andonmessMan
over a year ago
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I have one, but purely as it gives them an accurate measurement of my useage. They kept giving me estimated bills based on the previous owners (a family of four  ) and never requested a meter reading. It hasn't "saved" me money as I don't waste electricity/gas but it's made life much easier. |
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"Definitely avoid them unless you want Putin's mob switching all your stuff on and off while you are out.
A smart meter shows you usage. It's not connected to any appliances "
Then I'm still not giving houseroom to stuff that's probably smarter than I am  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I don’t have one, and unless they can magically make my kids use less electric and switch things off then it’s a waste x
The idea is that it will show you where you are wasting energy and your bills will better reflect what you have used. So, you could choose not to use the tumble dryer to reduce your outgoings etc.
I'm more concerned that they don't appear to be fully secure yet.
I did switch to a water meter by accident and it has saved me about £200 a year.
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Fully secure in what way? Do they connect to the wifi? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Waste of time, don't get one. For starters it's a good excuse to get rid of more jobs to increase company profits even further. They don't save you any money, it's all lies. People will know when you're on holiday by looking at your usage. Meters can be hacked and cut off your supply. More radio waves in your house. Never believe everything the government and greedy companies tell you.
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound |
"I don’t have one, and unless they can magically make my kids use less electric and switch things off then it’s a waste x
The idea is that it will show you where you are wasting energy and your bills will better reflect what you have used. So, you could choose not to use the tumble dryer to reduce your outgoings etc.
I'm more concerned that they don't appear to be fully secure yet.
I did switch to a water meter by accident and it has saved me about £200 a year.
Fully secure in what way? Do they connect to the wifi?"
There are some hacking concerns. It's unlikely, but it's there. I don't do the internet of things either.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Just seen a TV advert for smart meters and the first thing that popped up in my mind was this. If, we all save gas/electricity then will the utility companies increase the price per unit? Supply and demand in reverse, if you see what I mean? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I don’t have one, and unless they can magically make my kids use less electric and switch things off then it’s a waste x
The idea is that it will show you where you are wasting energy and your bills will better reflect what you have used. So, you could choose not to use the tumble dryer to reduce your outgoings etc.
I'm more concerned that they don't appear to be fully secure yet.
I did switch to a water meter by accident and it has saved me about £200 a year.
Fully secure in what way? Do they connect to the wifi?
There are some hacking concerns. It's unlikely, but it's there. I don't do the internet of things either.
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I don't either. I read my meter every month, that will be enough. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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An installer told me that lots of people are refusing to have them fitted. Companies are constantly putting up the prices, so you'll never save money, they're all out to screw us of every penny they can. |
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the smart meter wont save you anything its down to the user to do the saving by watching the meter and changing your ways to save.
there still is a charge to have it fitted you pay for it through your bills to save yourself nothing.
lead is supposed to stop the radio waves leaving the meter.
smart meters can cost you more as some are faulty.
it phones home every half hour but this can be adjusted to whatever time they want.
the only saving is pence compared to what the company saves. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I refuse to have one. Hubby is obsessed with numbers. He'll be constantly telling me how much it's costing me to switch anything on lol. "
Does that include him!  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I refuse to have one. Hubby is obsessed with numbers. He'll be constantly telling me how much it's costing me to switch anything on lol.
Does that include him! "
haha don't think he's thought of that yet.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"If you get one get a series 2 meter as series 1 can only be used with one company also they allow your energy company to spy on you and know exactly what your up to,best not to get one"
you mean they can see me having sex lol.  |
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"If you get one get a series 2 meter as series 1 can only be used with one company also they allow your energy company to spy on you and know exactly what your up to,best not to get one"
theres no spying other than your usage of electric in the house.
if you inform them of your gadgets then its your own fault |
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By *ENGUYMan
over a year ago
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Utility providers are under targets set by Government hence the advertising to get them fitted in homes.
But people are avoiding them. I don't use all that much Gas & Leccy as I work away from home and return every 6-8 weeks. My Gas bill last year was under £40 & Leccy was about £60.
My provider really pushes the Smart Meter issue but I resist saying when it becomes Law to have one, then I'll have it fitted.
There are techie issues with them; some meters send wrong data whilst others have been known to catch fire.
Until they're 1000% perfect & are legally required, I'll stick to my usual meter. |
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"Utility providers are under targets set by Government hence the advertising to get them fitted in homes.
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Which should set alarm bells ringing
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But people are avoiding them. I don't use all that much Gas & Leccy as I work away from home and return every 6-8 weeks. My Gas bill last year was under £40 & Leccy was about £60.
My provider really pushes the Smart Meter issue but I resist saying when it becomes Law to have one, then I'll have it fitted.
There are techie issues with them; some meters send wrong data whilst others have been known to catch fire.
Until they're 1000% perfect & are legally required, I'll stick to my usual meter."
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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No use having one. What energy you use is metered exactly the same way whether smart or old school.
Plus you can take out the traditional gas meter and stick a secondary one in, to regulate the pressure, to save a few quid in winter.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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In the last 2 weeks I have been contacted 6 times by EDF about having a smart meter. I politely declined the first couple of times but they are being increasingly pushy. I am getting less patient with them and have asked them to record next to my name that I don't want one, that I am finding the cold calls intrusive and, that I am feeling harassed by them. I have warned them that I am keeping a record of the calls and that I will start making official complaints against them if they contact me again. I feel sorry for the people that have to make the calls, it must be a shit way to earn a living and I bet they get a lot of abuse. I haven't heard from them for a few days but, I'm not holding my breath!
It's all a big con. Surely most people know what they have that eats their electricity, how to cut back if they need too and, to buy the best energy rated appliences they can afford when they replace one! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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We have them. They don't save you money just show you what you're using. They help avoid estimated bills though. That's the only benefit we've found about them. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I have to agree - if you’re already energy conscious, I can’t see how it helps.
Once you have a smart meter, can you still switch to a different energy provider, or do you then need a different meter? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I have one, but purely as it gives them an accurate measurement of my useage. They kept giving me estimated bills based on the previous owners (a family of four ) and never requested a meter reading. It hasn't "saved" me money as I don't waste electricity/gas but it's made life much easier. "
N-Power, perchance?
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"We have them. They don't save you money just show you what you're using. They help avoid estimated bills though. That's the only benefit we've found about them."
You can avoid estimated bills by going online when you receive a bill and giving them your meter reading, they will recalculate and send you a bill based on your meter reading...no smart meter needed!
Are the government subsidising the energy companies push on smart meters? Does anyone know? |
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"I don’t have one, and unless they can magically make my kids use less electric and switch things off then it’s a waste x
The idea is that it will show you where you are wasting energy and your bills will better reflect what you have used. So, you could choose not to use the tumble dryer to reduce your outgoings etc.
I'm more concerned that they don't appear to be fully secure yet.
I did switch to a water meter by accident and it has saved me about £200 a year.
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I imagine they are as safe as things like The Hive,same technology |
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By *i1971Man
over a year ago
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I had a few calls on the mobile which I didn't answer. Recorded message that it was a call about a smart meter, so added the number to the block list
Already fairly energy conscious here anyway & know what the high energy use items are, so can't see any benefit to getting one.
Saw an advert on TV last night that implied if everyone switched to smart meters it could save enough electricity to power some large city, but didn't make it clear that it wasn't the meter doing the saving. |
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Love mine and not only because it's free. Because you see the live data in terms of consumption and cost your can have fun running round the house and seeing what combinations of different lights/appliances use and make calculations. Well it keeps me busy any way and does make me think/modify my usage. |
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Not in any meaningful way it doesn't, unless you just eat cold, mouldy food, and never wash, or wash your clothes, and don't heat your house in winter, because other than cookers, fridges/freezers, washing machines, kettles and heating, every other appliance uses next to no electricity.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Love mine and not only because it's free. Because you see the live data in terms of consumption and cost your can have fun running round the house and seeing what combinations of different lights/appliances use and make calculations. Well it keeps me busy any way and does make me think/modify my usage."
Or, you could turn off everything you're not using and do a crossword puzzle or some sudoku |
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"Love mine and not only because it's free. Because you see the live data in terms of consumption and cost your can have fun running round the house and seeing what combinations of different lights/appliances use and make calculations. Well it keeps me busy any way and does make me think/modify my usage.
Or, you could turn off everything you're not using and do a crossword puzzle or some sudoku "
And you still will save next to nothing, unless it is winter and you turn the electric heating off. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I'm not really energy conscious, if I want to use my tumble drier I will, and no smart meter will persuade me otherwise. I don't have one and never will. |
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"I'm not really energy conscious, if I want to use my tumble drier I will, and no smart meter will persuade me otherwise. I don't have one and never will."
Exactly, because no one wants to wear wet clothes! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"In the last 2 weeks I have been contacted 6 times by EDF about having a smart meter. I politely declined the first couple of times but they are being increasingly pushy. I am getting less patient with them and have asked them to record next to my name that I don't want one, that I am finding the cold calls intrusive and, that I am feeling harassed by them. I have warned them that I am keeping a record of the calls and that I will start making official complaints against them if they contact me again. I feel sorry for the people that have to make the calls, it must be a shit way to earn a living and I bet they get a lot of abuse. I haven't heard from them for a few days but, I'm not holding my breath!
It's all a big con. Surely most people know what they have that eats their electricity, how to cut back if they need too and, to buy the best energy rated appliences they can afford when they replace one!"
I kept finding notes through my door saying an engineer had tried to come and fit one (without me making the appointment, and after telling them I didn't want one) so I emailed them to reiterate that I would not be having one and to stop contact about it, they have. I use an app to submit meter readings as often as I like.  |
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"Not in any meaningful way it doesn't, unless you just eat cold, mouldy food, and never wash, or wash your clothes, and don't heat your house in winter, because other than cookers, fridges/freezers, washing machines, kettles and heating, every other appliance uses next to no electricity.
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And there speaks the voice of ignorance. |
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"Not in any meaningful way it doesn't, unless you just eat cold, mouldy food, and never wash, or wash your clothes, and don't heat your house in winter, because other than cookers, fridges/freezers, washing machines, kettles and heating, every other appliance uses next to no electricity.
And there speaks the voice of ignorance."
Nonsense. What can you turn off that saves anything meaningful? |
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"Not in any meaningful way it doesn't, unless you just eat cold, mouldy food, and never wash, or wash your clothes, and don't heat your house in winter, because other than cookers, fridges/freezers, washing machines, kettles and heating, every other appliance uses next to no electricity.
And there speaks the voice of ignorance.
Nonsense. What can you turn off that saves anything meaningful?"
You tell me you're the fucking expert...but apart from better sanitation and medicine and education and irrigation and public health and roads and a freshwater system and baths and public order... what have the Romans done for us? |
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I will tell you.
In summer, when I am away, my house uses about 70 kwh per week. So nothing that is not essential is running.
When I the house is occupied in summer, it uses about 90 kwh per week.
I pay 11.582 per kwh including vat. So £2.32 on top of the essentials.
I am careful and not wasteful with electricity. Realistically how can I save any of the 20 kwh per week, that represents cooking, hot water, etc when I am here?
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I don’t see the point at the moment, when every providers equipment is incompatible.
Somebody pointed out that smart meters are perfect for when we’re all forced to charge our own electric car, and the providers can double Roche cost of power during peak charging periods. |
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"We have one, can't remember the last time we actually checked it. If you already are conscious of saving, probably won't make any difference to you
I'm from a generation that had to be careful with utilities..so I turn everything off as soon as I'm finished with it... only thing I can see and it's no real benefit to me.. is the utility companies need less or zero meter readers Saving them fortunes"
exactly why let the greedy so and so's pocket even more of our hard earned money ....I've no intention of having one.I can check my meter and work out what I'm using for myself .
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"Basically anything arriving with "smart" in the name, whether a motorway or a meter, really means "surveillance" and spying on you, and is not smart for you!"
Ha ha so true. Smart motorways seems to be a euphemism for slow motorways. |
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By *andonmessMan
over a year ago
A world all of his own |
"I have one, but purely as it gives them an accurate measurement of my useage. They kept giving me estimated bills based on the previous owners (a family of four ) and never requested a meter reading. It hasn't "saved" me money as I don't waste electricity/gas but it's made life much easier.
N-Power, perchance?
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No, British Gas. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I have one, but have no idea how the gadget they gave me to show my usage works, so it’s in a drawer somewhere. I use the same power as I’ve always done. At least l don’t have to read my meter now.
Saved a fortune on my water bill by getting a meter fitted though, but I do live on my own x |
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By *andonmessMan
over a year ago
A world all of his own |
"I have one, but have no idea how the gadget they gave me to show my usage works, so it’s in a drawer somewhere. I use the same power as I’ve always done. At least l don’t have to read my meter now."
Just plug it into the mains and wait 5-10 minutes for it to update and you're away. |
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A few months ago, it was pointed out by one of the head honchos of the water companies that eventually your bill, if you have a smart meter, will charge you more per m3 when you go over your allotted useage. Very smart aren't they? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Basically anything arriving with "smart" in the name, whether a motorway or a meter, really means "surveillance" and spying on you, and is not smart for you!"
Take no notice of the above comment... paranoid drivel!
But, while I'm here... I would like to announce the launch of my new smart lingerie range.
Smart e-pants and smart e-bras.
You need a wi-fi connection or Bluetooth and then you can monitor things like body temperature, cleanliness, hydration and other dead handy stuff. At no time whatsoever (honest) will any photos be taken and transmitted to my own private e-mailed address and then appear on the new website I'm not creating... I'm not a pervert you know
So, place your orders now ladies! |
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"Yep, still bat shit crazy
Surprised no one's mentioned smart meters give you cancer yet"
The company that makes them is owned by a satanic, paedophile, shape shifting, half lizard, half person, half man-bear-pig. |
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"Yep, still bat shit crazy
Surprised no one's mentioned smart meters give you cancer yet.
It's all about surveillance don't you know! "
I heard that they switch lights on and ramp the heating up overnight so as to inflate your bills then have a nosey in the dustbin to see if you ate all your vegetables, AND count how many sheets you use, if you're a folder or a scruncher, and whether you washed your hands after |
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By (user no longer on site)
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The company that makes them is owned by a satanic, paedophile, shape shifting, half lizard, half person, half man-bear-pig. "
I thought Corbyn was against capitalism? |
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They are still installing "first gen" meters made in China, and they are crap. On bookofface one energy company were foolish enough to start a page and invite people to contact them if they had "issues" with the meters... people did, what an interesting read that was lol. Standard advice was to switch it off, wait 6 days, and then switch it on. People did this and were getting readings showing they had used a years worth of electricity in a day etc, or the meters wouldn't now hook up to the wifi etc.
Who do you think is paying for all this new tech... hmmmm?
If you swap energy providers, you need a "different" meter, so that's one way to stop people switching.
They say the "2nd gen" meters will be better, but they knew there would be problems with the first ones 4 years ago, why are they still fitting them?
I'm not getting one, ever, if I get my way. |
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We have had one 8 months, made us much more conscious about turning things off.Not just having the hot water on every morning when we really dont need it. We have a graph to show how much we use daily. The unit isnt plugged in dont really need it. Will see a difference after a year. |
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By *andonmessMan
over a year ago
A world all of his own |
"This gadget.. thinga MA Bob ..that shows you what you're using price etc ..is that battery or mains powered ? "
Mains powered. Ironically.
You don't have to have it plugged in though, it's just for your information. |
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