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"I was talking to a female friend last night and was explaining a sequence of paramour interactions for me, how my feelings played out and what had been problematic and the ‘pattern’ I could see I gravitate towards - but - during the recounting I became acutely aware of my own treatment or encounters of others additional to those paramours I was focusing on telling her about, and how I had been guilty (intentionally/unintentionally?) of doing unto them aspects that I had felt victim of by those paramours I was more invested in. Are you comfortable with your own hypocrisy?" Bernard Shaw once famously said that treating others as you would like to be treated was bad advice as other people might not want to be treated as you want to be treated. So, I think we need to start off with a definition of "hypocrisy"  | |||
"Can you break it down for us into layman’s terms ?" Well for me anyway. | |||
"Can you break it down for us into layman’s terms ?" Of course. Do you claim to have higher standards or more noble beliefs than is the case, and are you alright with being a bit of a sham? | |||
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"I was talking to a female friend last night and was explaining a sequence of paramour interactions for me, how my feelings played out and what had been problematic and the ‘pattern’ I could see I gravitate towards - but - during the recounting I became acutely aware of my own treatment or encounters of others additional to those paramours I was focusing on telling her about, and how I had been guilty (intentionally/unintentionally?) of doing unto them aspects that I had felt victim of by those paramours I was more invested in. Are you comfortable with your own hypocrisy? Bernard Shaw once famously said that treating others as you would like to be treated was bad advice as other people might not want to be treated as you want to be treated. So, I think we need to start off with a definition of "hypocrisy" "Ah but I guess I’m not talking about the recipient’s viewpoint necessarily (although I take your point as in the OP I was suggesting I was bemoaning the treatment I had had - reality is I’m aware of my involvement in setting the context of what happened so...regardless you make an excellent point that perhaps I feel bad for something that didn’t faze the other person and that’s cheered me somewhat!!) - I mean more my ability to interact with least harm to others by my own values and standards of how I’d want to treat people, and my failure in this. | |||
"Im far from perfect. But im perfectly happy with myself. I dont feel any discomfort" That sounds peaceful, I admire you. | |||
"Is that Paramour pictures the the Hollywood film company?" No. | |||
"Seriously wtf are you going on about" Look at my layman’s terms explanation, if I can understand it you should. | |||
"Not particularly,but no-one is perfect are they. It's a bit like the ghosting thing,I hate it when it's been done to me,but realised I've done exactly the same in the past." True. We are such weird mixtures of hateful, spiteful, angry, twisted dark and loving, caring, joyous gentleness - it’s sometimes hard to reconcile. | |||
"Seriously wtf are you going on about" I’m just trying to be an okay person, Dash. I’m just trying to get by. X | |||
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"Is that Paramour pictures the the Hollywood film company? No. " United artists? | |||
"I was talking to a female friend last night and was explaining a sequence of paramour interactions for me, how my feelings played out and what had been problematic and the ‘pattern’ I could see I gravitate towards - but - during the recounting I became acutely aware of my own treatment or encounters of others additional to those paramours I was focusing on telling her about, and how I had been guilty (intentionally/unintentionally?) of doing unto them aspects that I had felt victim of by those paramours I was more invested in. Are you comfortable with your own hypocrisy? Bernard Shaw once famously said that treating others as you would like to be treated was bad advice as other people might not want to be treated as you want to be treated. So, I think we need to start off with a definition of "hypocrisy"
Ah but I guess I’m not talking about the recipient’s viewpoint necessarily (although I take your point as in the OP I was suggesting I was bemoaning the treatment I had had - reality is I’m aware of my involvement in setting the context of what happened so...regardless you make an excellent point that perhaps I feel bad for something that didn’t faze the other person and that’s cheered me somewhat!!) - I mean more my ability to interact with least harm to others by my own values and standards of how I’d want to treat people, and my failure in this. "But my point is that your values and standards might be not be ones other people want to live by. A classic example of that is the current dispute about the granting of a renewed licence to a lap dancing club in Sheffield. There's a campaigning group saying a licence shouldn't be granted as such places harm women as a whole. On the other hand the actual female dancers don't want the club closed, saying they don't feel they are being harmed. Are the campaigners correct to seek to treat the dancers in accordance with their values? | |||
"Is that Paramour pictures the the Hollywood film company?" I see what you did there, you bloody comedy genius you | |||
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"Seriously wtf are you going on about I’m just trying to be an okay person, Dash. I’m just trying to get by. X" Thats a fair comment,its just i read it and it scrambled my tiny brain | |||
"Op. Do you ever think you think to much about stuff" Let me think about that.  | |||
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"I was talking to a female friend last night and was explaining a sequence of paramour interactions for me, how my feelings played out and what had been problematic and the ‘pattern’ I could see I gravitate towards - but - during the recounting I became acutely aware of my own treatment or encounters of others additional to those paramours I was focusing on telling her about, and how I had been guilty (intentionally/unintentionally?) of doing unto them aspects that I had felt victim of by those paramours I was more invested in. Are you comfortable with your own hypocrisy? Bernard Shaw once famously said that treating others as you would like to be treated was bad advice as other people might not want to be treated as you want to be treated. So, I think we need to start off with a definition of "hypocrisy"
Ah but I guess I’m not talking about the recipient’s viewpoint necessarily (although I take your point as in the OP I was suggesting I was bemoaning the treatment I had had - reality is I’m aware of my involvement in setting the context of what happened so...regardless you make an excellent point that perhaps I feel bad for something that didn’t faze the other person and that’s cheered me somewhat!!) - I mean more my ability to interact with least harm to others by my own values and standards of how I’d want to treat people, and my failure in this.
But my point is that your values and standards might be not be ones other people want to live by.
A classic example of that is the current dispute about the granting of a renewed licence to a lap dancing club in Sheffield. There's a campaigning group saying a licence shouldn't be granted as such places harm women as a whole. On the other hand the actual female dancers don't want the club closed, saying they don't feel they are being harmed.
Are the campaigners correct to seek to treat the dancers in accordance with their values? "No, I know exactly what you mean - and I’d grant that licence btw - I’m not suggesting that my values should be enforced on to others or be the correct way of being* (even if I was able to discharge them with no failures). But, I’m saying if they are my values then it is important to me to discharge them with no failure whatever someone else thinks of them, and it is frustrating when I don’t manage to. *obviously my way -is- the correct way though.  | |||
"I'm a complete sham As I get older I pretend less - but that's because I've got less people to pretend to "Withdrawing is one way to ensure we aren’t “found out” (I say we, not necessarily meaning you specifically!) | |||
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"Are we talking being the bit on the side?" I just want to clarify before I ponder. | |||
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"Are we talking being the bit on the side?" God no!! | |||
"Not particularly,but no-one is perfect are they. It's a bit like the ghosting thing,I hate it when it's been done to me,but realised I've done exactly the same in the past." I generally aim to treat people well and honestly, however I must confess your comment rings true for me  | |||
"Are we talking being the bit on the side? God no!! " I was just making sure
I can be slightly hypocritical at times. I do it from self-preservation, not from a selfish point of view.
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"Not particularly,but no-one is perfect are they. It's a bit like the ghosting thing,I hate it when it's been done to me,but realised I've done exactly the same in the past. True. We are such weird mixtures of hateful, spiteful, angry, twisted dark and loving, caring, joyous gentleness - it’s sometimes hard to reconcile. " You’re being a little too hard on yourself lady. Yes we all want to be able to look at ourselves in the mirror in the morning with a clear conscience but the standards to which you hold yourself are not always those to which others hold themselves nor expect of you. If you feel uncomfortable with your actions then discuss it with the people involved and if possible learn and grow from it. The vast majority will recognise the strength required in doing so. As you say though; we are all wonderful and imperfect creatures, fallible and majestic. Don’t be so hard on yourself | |||
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"I do think you can over think things to much. People arnt delicate little flowers if you dont go out your way to hurt people. Nobody goes through life pussy footing around. We will all unintentionally hurt someone at sometime or other" True but there are a few delicate flowers who feel the entire world operates just to upset them. | |||
"Some times it happens, it's never intended. Bernard Shaw was right in theory but you can't always be second guessing other people. It's fairly safe to say most people want to be treated decently. But I'll survive my own past or future hypocrisy. Occasionally I feel bad." That’s got to be a first, a bloke with a cock avatar has mentioned George Bernard Shaw on a thread on the forums. | |||
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"I was talking to a female friend last night and was explaining a sequence of paramour interactions for me, how my feelings played out and what had been problematic and the ‘pattern’ I could see I gravitate towards - but - during the recounting I became acutely aware of my own treatment or encounters of others additional to those paramours I was focusing on telling her about, and how I had been guilty (intentionally/unintentionally?) of doing unto them aspects that I had felt victim of by those paramours I was more invested in. Are you comfortable with your own hypocrisy?" Well after finally understanding your post (it did read a bit like Jane Austin novel!), I can say yes. Though I am getting better. Yes. | |||
"Some times it happens, it's never intended. Bernard Shaw was right in theory but you can't always be second guessing other people. It's fairly safe to say most people want to be treated decently. But I'll survive my own past or future hypocrisy. Occasionally I feel bad. That’s got to be a first, a bloke with a cock avatar has mentioned George Bernard Shaw on a thread on the forums. " Beautiful and surprising creatures my friend... | |||
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"Some times it happens, it's never intended. Bernard Shaw was right in theory but you can't always be second guessing other people. It's fairly safe to say most people want to be treated decently. But I'll survive my own past or future hypocrisy. Occasionally I feel bad." Shaws point is that "decency" is a subjective concept. If a woman wears a bikini in public in Saudi Arabia most of the locals will think she is behaving wrongly. When she is arrested for this,, most of us would think the Saudi authorities were behaving wrongly. | |||
"Not particularly,but no-one is perfect are they. It's a bit like the ghosting thing,I hate it when it's been done to me,but realised I've done exactly the same in the past." What does the term ghosting mean? I have seen it on a few threads and don't know it. Thanks | |||
"Not particularly,but no-one is perfect are they. It's a bit like the ghosting thing,I hate it when it's been done to me,but realised I've done exactly the same in the past. What does the term ghosting mean? I have seen it on a few threads and don't know it. Thanks " It's when someone you've known for a while suddenly disappears on you without any warning and doesn't reply to your calls or messages. Maybe someone who you've invested time getting to know. That's my understanding anyway. | |||
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"Some times it happens, it's never intended. Bernard Shaw was right in theory but you can't always be second guessing other people. It's fairly safe to say most people want to be treated decently. But I'll survive my own past or future hypocrisy. Occasionally I feel bad. That’s got to be a first, a bloke with a cock avatar has mentioned George Bernard Shaw on a thread on the forums. " Sorry... won't do it again! I think it's the sun getting to me  | |||
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"My mum often tells me how awful my sisters in law are to their children. I smile remembering when she was exactly the same to me. I think we see other people's actions towards us in isolation, without the benefit of knowing their thoughts and experiences. We know our own motivations and what led us to behave a certain way. We don't know theirs. so I'm a bit comfortable with my personal hypocrisy and my mums "So true! We often find fault in others that which we are most guilty of, and it’s also not hugely comfortable to realise that our intent and understanding of a situation doesn’t invalidate someone having an opposing appraisal of it - neither are wrong per se. | |||
"Can you break it down for us into layman’s terms ? Of course. Do you claim to have higher standards or more noble beliefs than is the case, and are you alright with being a bit of a sham?" Isn't that the human condition? | |||
"Not sure what mine are, but I’m happy with how I treat people. Though I do recognise that maybe I’m too soft and acceptable of poor behaviour towards myself x " Without suggesting that this is the case for you (really I’m not) but do you think that there’s ever a danger in us not taking responsibility in situations and finding a victim role safe? And I reiterate this is not in situations of intentional abuse where there is clearly a wrongdoing but perhaps in the more day to day negotiations with others of needs being met. | |||
"Who says it's hypocrisy? We can all aspire to be something while still accepting that we will sometimes fall short "That is true. At what point are we making an excuse for not bothering though? | |||
"Not particularly,but no-one is perfect are they. It's a bit like the ghosting thing,I hate it when it's been done to me,but realised I've done exactly the same in the past. I generally aim to treat people well and honestly, however I must confess your comment rings true for me "It boils down (I think) of how important someone is to us. And the brutal truth that we become more blinded to our mistreatment of those that we didn’t really care about so much (not saying we don’t care about hurting them, or intend to do so but more those who we’ve not raised up as the ones where we are aware and conscious of how we interact with them because the interactions are meaningful and important to us, where we are invested in them or bothered what they think of us). | |||
"Are we talking being the bit on the side? God no!! I was just making sure
I can be slightly hypocritical at times. I do it from self-preservation, not from a selfish point of view.
"Is it only ever self preservation? | |||
"Can you break it down for us into layman’s terms ? Of course. Do you claim to have higher standards or more noble beliefs than is the case, and are you alright with being a bit of a sham?" Yes, I'm quite amazed at some of the things I've done that I never thought I would, not on a large scale but too many times all the same. Am I comfotable with it? I'm comfortable with the fact that I've managed to keep it to myself. | |||
"Not particularly,but no-one is perfect are they. It's a bit like the ghosting thing,I hate it when it's been done to me,but realised I've done exactly the same in the past. I generally aim to treat people well and honestly, however I must confess your comment rings true for me
It boils down (I think) of how important someone is to us. And the brutal truth that we become more blinded to our mistreatment of those that we didn’t really care about so much (not saying we don’t care about hurting them, or intend to do so but more those who we’ve not raised up as the ones where we are aware and conscious of how we interact with them because the interactions are meaningful and important to us, where we are invested in them or bothered what they think of us). "op. Right i genuinely have no idea what your talking. How are you hurting the ones you interact with. Are you overthinking everything you say and do constantly. How are you mistreating them | |||
"Not particularly,but no-one is perfect are they. It's a bit like the ghosting thing,I hate it when it's been done to me,but realised I've done exactly the same in the past. True. We are such weird mixtures of hateful, spiteful, angry, twisted dark and loving, caring, joyous gentleness - it’s sometimes hard to reconcile. You’re being a little too hard on yourself lady. Yes we all want to be able to look at ourselves in the mirror in the morning with a clear conscience but the standards to which you hold yourself are not always those to which others hold themselves nor expect of you. If you feel uncomfortable with your actions then discuss it with the people involved and if possible learn and grow from it. The vast majority will recognise the strength required in doing so. As you say though; we are all wonderful and imperfect creatures, fallible and majestic. Don’t be so hard on yourself" What lovely words, you have massaged my ego splendidly. I do love you, my personal therapist! In reality though, I’m a horrid, narcissistic cunt with a propensity for sweariness, as you well know! (Thank god I re-read that before posting, it autocorrected to sweatiness!!) | |||
"Not particularly,but no-one is perfect are they. It's a bit like the ghosting thing,I hate it when it's been done to me,but realised I've done exactly the same in the past. I generally aim to treat people well and honestly, however I must confess your comment rings true for me
It boils down (I think) of how important someone is to us. And the brutal truth that we become more blinded to our mistreatment of those that we didn’t really care about so much (not saying we don’t care about hurting them, or intend to do so but more those who we’ve not raised up as the ones where we are aware and conscious of how we interact with them because the interactions are meaningful and important to us, where we are invested in them or bothered what they think of us). "That’s an interesting point, I think that boils down directly to the person that they are. The old adage springs to mind; if you want to learn a persons true character don’t look to how they treat their contemporaries, but to how they treat those that they consider to be less than themselves or not important. | |||
"Not particularly,but no-one is perfect are they. It's a bit like the ghosting thing,I hate it when it's been done to me,but realised I've done exactly the same in the past. True. We are such weird mixtures of hateful, spiteful, angry, twisted dark and loving, caring, joyous gentleness - it’s sometimes hard to reconcile. You’re being a little too hard on yourself lady. Yes we all want to be able to look at ourselves in the mirror in the morning with a clear conscience but the standards to which you hold yourself are not always those to which others hold themselves nor expect of you. If you feel uncomfortable with your actions then discuss it with the people involved and if possible learn and grow from it. The vast majority will recognise the strength required in doing so. As you say though; we are all wonderful and imperfect creatures, fallible and majestic. Don’t be so hard on yourself What lovely words, you have massaged my ego splendidly. I do love you, my personal therapist! In reality though, I’m a horrid, narcissistic cunt with a propensity for sweariness, as you well know! (Thank god I re-read that before posting, it autocorrected to sweatiness!!) " Clearly your phone knows you better! Sweary sweaty narcissist... a heady mix indeed, what times my train? | |||
"I do think you can over think things to much. People arnt delicate little flowers if you dont go out your way to hurt people. Nobody goes through life pussy footing around. We will all unintentionally hurt someone at sometime or other" Yes, one can over think. I don’t disagree, and I’m not suggesting that we don’t move for fear of ever upsetting someone. I’m talking about when we experience behaviour from someone that we don’t enjoy and then the realisation that we probably are doing that same behaviour to someone else. We can be both victim and perpetrator. And being more mindful and aware of that. I guess, just for us to be more purposeful in being a little less blinkered to our own impact, and a lot more gentle with everyone. | |||
"Some times it happens, it's never intended. Bernard Shaw was right in theory but you can't always be second guessing other people. It's fairly safe to say most people want to be treated decently. But I'll survive my own past or future hypocrisy. Occasionally I feel bad." Is “not intended” always a safe enough excuse? If we see patterns when does it become our culpability to stop the cycle of not intending to hurt? | |||
"You don't get through life without breaking a few eggs "But do you own it, hold yourself to account, say sorry and not just intend to but actually do better? | |||
"I was talking to a female friend last night and was explaining a sequence of paramour interactions for me, how my feelings played out and what had been problematic and the ‘pattern’ I could see I gravitate towards - but - during the recounting I became acutely aware of my own treatment or encounters of others additional to those paramours I was focusing on telling her about, and how I had been guilty (intentionally/unintentionally?) of doing unto them aspects that I had felt victim of by those paramours I was more invested in. Are you comfortable with your own hypocrisy? Well after finally understanding your post (it did read a bit like Jane Austin novel!), I can say yes. Though I am getting better. Yes. "It was a bit wanky in phrasing. I’ll own that. | |||
"You recognise it, you feel guilty, or/and and conflicted, so now you need to decide if this gut reaction is worth reappraising how you do, er..business. It's all a learning curve and you sound right emotionally intelligent, so I'm backing you to stop yourself if you recognise yourself falling(inadvertently) into this pattern of behaviour again. Life's a journey and all that; you go girl! " By ‘eck love, I think you’re right emotionally intelligent!!
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"The name of this thread sounds like a Muse album title." I thank you. | |||
"I live with a level of hypocrisy but work towards correcting incongruities between my;espoused values and those I demonstrate through my actions. On occasion I can feel extreme discomfort and need to take immediate correctives action other times I just acknowledge it and decide I’ll get round to doing something about it." Congruence, one of my favourite words. | |||
"Can you break it down for us into layman’s terms ? Of course. Do you claim to have higher standards or more noble beliefs than is the case, and are you alright with being a bit of a sham? Isn't that the human condition?" Oh is that what I’ve got? | |||
"Can you break it down for us into layman’s terms ? Of course. Do you claim to have higher standards or more noble beliefs than is the case, and are you alright with being a bit of a sham?" If one claims to have higher standards and has a firm belief in that . Where does the sham bit come in ? As they wouldn’t believe you anyway if you questioned those standards !! | |||
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"Can you break it down for us into layman’s terms ? Of course. Do you claim to have higher standards or more noble beliefs than is the case, and are you alright with being a bit of a sham? Yes, I'm quite amazed at some of the things I've done that I never thought I would, not on a large scale but too many times all the same. Am I comfotable with it? I'm comfortable with the fact that I've managed to keep it to myself. " I’m conflicted because you posted something once that I really disliked, and then the other day I enjoyed your interactions with me in reference to social housing. It’s a conundrum. | |||
" We're all work in progress, and to assume well all be robitically perfect 100% all the time is unrealistic. Our hypocrisy can be influenced by outside factors, emotions, health and behaviour of others. Trying to recognise our faults and keep on top of them is all we can do. I don't believe the perfect human is alive yet." Errrrr excuse meeeeee | |||
"Not particularly,but no-one is perfect are they. It's a bit like the ghosting thing,I hate it when it's been done to me,but realised I've done exactly the same in the past. I generally aim to treat people well and honestly, however I must confess your comment rings true for me
It boils down (I think) of how important someone is to us. And the brutal truth that we become more blinded to our mistreatment of those that we didn’t really care about so much (not saying we don’t care about hurting them, or intend to do so but more those who we’ve not raised up as the ones where we are aware and conscious of how we interact with them because the interactions are meaningful and important to us, where we are invested in them or bothered what they think of us). op. Right i genuinely have no idea what your talking. How are you hurting the ones you interact with. Are you overthinking everything you say and do constantly. How are you mistreating them "Let me take some time to think how to respond to this, I’ll see if I can give you a scenario of context but without me disclosing more than I’d like. I’ll come back to this. | |||
"Not particularly,but no-one is perfect are they. It's a bit like the ghosting thing,I hate it when it's been done to me,but realised I've done exactly the same in the past. I generally aim to treat people well and honestly, however I must confess your comment rings true for me
It boils down (I think) of how important someone is to us. And the brutal truth that we become more blinded to our mistreatment of those that we didn’t really care about so much (not saying we don’t care about hurting them, or intend to do so but more those who we’ve not raised up as the ones where we are aware and conscious of how we interact with them because the interactions are meaningful and important to us, where we are invested in them or bothered what they think of us).
That’s an interesting point, I think that boils down directly to the person that they are. The old adage springs to mind; if you want to learn a persons true character don’t look to how they treat their contemporaries, but to how they treat those that they consider to be less than themselves or not important."Oh yes indeed! Sorry, I didn’t mean so much that point (but most valid a point to make!) - I was talking more in terms of interactions with people sexually/romantically. The ones we like and the ones we *really really* like. | |||
"Not particularly,but no-one is perfect are they. It's a bit like the ghosting thing,I hate it when it's been done to me,but realised I've done exactly the same in the past. True. We are such weird mixtures of hateful, spiteful, angry, twisted dark and loving, caring, joyous gentleness - it’s sometimes hard to reconcile. You’re being a little too hard on yourself lady. Yes we all want to be able to look at ourselves in the mirror in the morning with a clear conscience but the standards to which you hold yourself are not always those to which others hold themselves nor expect of you. If you feel uncomfortable with your actions then discuss it with the people involved and if possible learn and grow from it. The vast majority will recognise the strength required in doing so. As you say though; we are all wonderful and imperfect creatures, fallible and majestic. Don’t be so hard on yourself What lovely words, you have massaged my ego splendidly. I do love you, my personal therapist! In reality though, I’m a horrid, narcissistic cunt with a propensity for sweariness, as you well know! (Thank god I re-read that before posting, it autocorrected to sweatiness!!) Clearly your phone knows you better! Sweary sweaty narcissist... a heady mix indeed, what times my train? "Such. A. Catch. | |||
"Can you break it down for us into layman’s terms ? Of course. Do you claim to have higher standards or more noble beliefs than is the case, and are you alright with being a bit of a sham? If one claims to have higher standards and has a firm belief in that . Where does the sham bit come in ? As they wouldn’t believe you anyway if you questioned those standards !! " Well that’s just denial and lack of awareness. | |||
" We're all work in progress, and to assume well all be robitically perfect 100% all the time is unrealistic. Our hypocrisy can be influenced by outside factors, emotions, health and behaviour of others. Trying to recognise our faults and keep on top of them is all we can do. I don't believe the perfect human is alive yet." | |||
" We're all work in progress, and to assume well all be robitically perfect 100% all the time is unrealistic. Our hypocrisy can be influenced by outside factors, emotions, health and behaviour of others. Trying to recognise our faults and keep on top of them is all we can do. I don't believe the perfect human is alive yet. Errrrr excuse meeeeee "*ding ding for denial over here! | |||
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"I think Estella would make a good Shakespearean actress due to her command of the English language (Chaucer is available too) "One of my nicknames is Mrs Mackerel Plop after Mrs Malaprop from Richard Brinsley Sheridan's 1775 play The Rivals, and the resulting term “malapropism”. I’m known to use the wrong word at the wrong time. Thank you anyway though!! | |||
"Can you break it down for us into layman’s terms ? Of course. Do you claim to have higher standards or more noble beliefs than is the case, and are you alright with being a bit of a sham? Yes, I'm quite amazed at some of the things I've done that I never thought I would, not on a large scale but too many times all the same. Am I comfotable with it? I'm comfortable with the fact that I've managed to keep it to myself. I’m conflicted because you posted something once that I really disliked, and then the other day I enjoyed your interactions with me in reference to social housing. It’s a conundrum." Was that the night I posted about the lady who had her photos posted without permission? | |||
"Can you break it down for us into layman’s terms ? Of course. Do you claim to have higher standards or more noble beliefs than is the case, and are you alright with being a bit of a sham? Yes, I'm quite amazed at some of the things I've done that I never thought I would, not on a large scale but too many times all the same. Am I comfotable with it? I'm comfortable with the fact that I've managed to keep it to myself. I’m conflicted because you posted something once that I really disliked, and then the other day I enjoyed your interactions with me in reference to social housing. It’s a conundrum. Was that the night I posted about the lady who had her photos posted without permission? " No. It was in relation to sex offenders. | |||
"Can you break it down for us into layman’s terms ? Of course. Do you claim to have higher standards or more noble beliefs than is the case, and are you alright with being a bit of a sham? Yes, I'm quite amazed at some of the things I've done that I never thought I would, not on a large scale but too many times all the same. Am I comfotable with it? I'm comfortable with the fact that I've managed to keep it to myself. I’m conflicted because you posted something once that I really disliked, and then the other day I enjoyed your interactions with me in reference to social housing. It’s a conundrum. Was that the night I posted about the lady who had her photos posted without permission? No. It was in relation to sex offenders. " I can't remember that but there is a little bit of Frankie Boyle in me that will say things for the shock factor. I'll bear it mind in future. | |||
"Can you break it down for us into layman’s terms ? Of course. Do you claim to have higher standards or more noble beliefs than is the case, and are you alright with being a bit of a sham?" I say it how I believe it whenever I post seriously on a subject, which admittedly is rare. I have no need to create a fictitious version of myself, I’m completely comfortable with whom I am and what I believe. | |||
"Can you break it down for us into layman’s terms ? Of course. Do you claim to have higher standards or more noble beliefs than is the case, and are you alright with being a bit of a sham? I say it how I believe it whenever I post seriously on a subject, which admittedly is rare. I have no need to create a fictitious version of myself, I’m completely comfortable with whom I am and what I believe. " I don't think this thread is about creating another persona as such...well that's not the way I read it anyway. | |||
"I think Estella would make a good Shakespearean actress due to her command of the English language (Chaucer is available too)
One of my nicknames is Mrs Mackerel Plop after Mrs Malaprop from Richard Brinsley Sheridan's 1775 play The Rivals, and the resulting term “malapropism”. I’m known to use the wrong word at the wrong time. Thank you anyway though!! "You have far too many nicknames Missus, it all sounds a bit too fishy to me. | |||
"Can you break it down for us into layman’s terms ? Of course. Do you claim to have higher standards or more noble beliefs than is the case, and are you alright with being a bit of a sham? I say it how I believe it whenever I post seriously on a subject, which admittedly is rare. I have no need to create a fictitious version of myself, I’m completely comfortable with whom I am and what I believe. I don't think this thread is about creating another persona as such...well that's not the way I read it anyway." im still waiting for estella to get back to me so i can understand what she means | |||
"Can you break it down for us into layman’s terms ? Of course. Do you claim to have higher standards or more noble beliefs than is the case, and are you alright with being a bit of a sham? Yes, I'm quite amazed at some of the things I've done that I never thought I would, not on a large scale but too many times all the same. Am I comfotable with it? I'm comfortable with the fact that I've managed to keep it to myself. I’m conflicted because you posted something once that I really disliked, and then the other day I enjoyed your interactions with me in reference to social housing. It’s a conundrum. Was that the night I posted about the lady who had her photos posted without permission? No. It was in relation to sex offenders. I can't remember that but there is a little bit of Frankie Boyle in me that will say things for the shock factor. I'll bear it mind in future." I’m good with Frankie. I should have asked you about it, to be honest. I will if in doubt again. | |||
"Can you break it down for us into layman’s terms ? Of course. Do you claim to have higher standards or more noble beliefs than is the case, and are you alright with being a bit of a sham? I say it how I believe it whenever I post seriously on a subject, which admittedly is rare. I have no need to create a fictitious version of myself, I’m completely comfortable with whom I am and what I believe. " Yes, I get that - and know that to be true of you, you’ve come to me before and asked about opinions on the rare occasion we’ve disagreed. I’m not really talking about purposefully creating a fictitious version of yourself, I’m meaning in real life that moment when perhaps you realise you’ve done unto another that which you feel miffed about being done to you. | |||
"Can you break it down for us into layman’s terms ? Of course. Do you claim to have higher standards or more noble beliefs than is the case, and are you alright with being a bit of a sham? I say it how I believe it whenever I post seriously on a subject, which admittedly is rare. I have no need to create a fictitious version of myself, I’m completely comfortable with whom I am and what I believe. I don't think this thread is about creating another persona as such...well that's not the way I read it anyway." | |||
"I think Estella would make a good Shakespearean actress due to her command of the English language (Chaucer is available too)
One of my nicknames is Mrs Mackerel Plop after Mrs Malaprop from Richard Brinsley Sheridan's 1775 play The Rivals, and the resulting term “malapropism”. I’m known to use the wrong word at the wrong time. Thank you anyway though!!
You have far too many nicknames Missus, it all sounds a bit too fishy to me. "I’m such an arse-sole | |||
"Can you break it down for us into layman’s terms ? Of course. Do you claim to have higher standards or more noble beliefs than is the case, and are you alright with being a bit of a sham? Yes, I'm quite amazed at some of the things I've done that I never thought I would, not on a large scale but too many times all the same. Am I comfotable with it? I'm comfortable with the fact that I've managed to keep it to myself. I’m conflicted because you posted something once that I really disliked, and then the other day I enjoyed your interactions with me in reference to social housing. It’s a conundrum. Was that the night I posted about the lady who had her photos posted without permission? No. It was in relation to sex offenders. I can't remember that but there is a little bit of Frankie Boyle in me that will say things for the shock factor. I'll bear it mind in future. I’m good with Frankie. I should have asked you about it, to be honest. I will if in doubt again. "Now you're just making me want to say something edgy again. | |||
"Can you break it down for us into layman’s terms ? Of course. Do you claim to have higher standards or more noble beliefs than is the case, and are you alright with being a bit of a sham? I say it how I believe it whenever I post seriously on a subject, which admittedly is rare. I have no need to create a fictitious version of myself, I’m completely comfortable with whom I am and what I believe. I don't think this thread is about creating another persona as such...well that's not the way I read it anyway.im still waiting for estella to get back to me so i can understand what she means" I’m still trying to work out how to explain differently to how I have already! | |||
"Can you break it down for us into layman’s terms ? Of course. Do you claim to have higher standards or more noble beliefs than is the case, and are you alright with being a bit of a sham? Yes, I'm quite amazed at some of the things I've done that I never thought I would, not on a large scale but too many times all the same. Am I comfotable with it? I'm comfortable with the fact that I've managed to keep it to myself. I’m conflicted because you posted something once that I really disliked, and then the other day I enjoyed your interactions with me in reference to social housing. It’s a conundrum. Was that the night I posted about the lady who had her photos posted without permission? No. It was in relation to sex offenders. I can't remember that but there is a little bit of Frankie Boyle in me that will say things for the shock factor. I'll bear it mind in future. I’m good with Frankie. I should have asked you about it, to be honest. I will if in doubt again.
Now you're just making me want to say something edgy again. "Be a prick and I won’t forgive you! | |||
"Can you break it down for us into layman’s terms ? Of course. Do you claim to have higher standards or more noble beliefs than is the case, and are you alright with being a bit of a sham?" No. Yes. | |||
"Can you break it down for us into layman’s terms ? Of course. Do you claim to have higher standards or more noble beliefs than is the case, and are you alright with being a bit of a sham? No. Yes. " | |||
"Can you break it down for us into layman’s terms ? Of course. Do you claim to have higher standards or more noble beliefs than is the case, and are you alright with being a bit of a sham? Yes, I'm quite amazed at some of the things I've done that I never thought I would, not on a large scale but too many times all the same. Am I comfotable with it? I'm comfortable with the fact that I've managed to keep it to myself. I’m conflicted because you posted something once that I really disliked, and then the other day I enjoyed your interactions with me in reference to social housing. It’s a conundrum. Was that the night I posted about the lady who had her photos posted without permission? No. It was in relation to sex offenders. I can't remember that but there is a little bit of Frankie Boyle in me that will say things for the shock factor. I'll bear it mind in future. I’m good with Frankie. I should have asked you about it, to be honest. I will if in doubt again.
Now you're just making me want to say something edgy again.
Be a prick and I won’t forgive you!"I'm never a prick, I'm just sometimes misunderstood. | |||
"Can you break it down for us into layman’s terms ? Of course. Do you claim to have higher standards or more noble beliefs than is the case, and are you alright with being a bit of a sham? Yes, I'm quite amazed at some of the things I've done that I never thought I would, not on a large scale but too many times all the same. Am I comfotable with it? I'm comfortable with the fact that I've managed to keep it to myself. I’m conflicted because you posted something once that I really disliked, and then the other day I enjoyed your interactions with me in reference to social housing. It’s a conundrum. Was that the night I posted about the lady who had her photos posted without permission? No. It was in relation to sex offenders. I can't remember that but there is a little bit of Frankie Boyle in me that will say things for the shock factor. I'll bear it mind in future. I’m good with Frankie. I should have asked you about it, to be honest. I will if in doubt again.
Now you're just making me want to say something edgy again.
Be a prick and I won’t forgive you!
I'm never a prick, I'm just sometimes misunderstood."id disagree with that | |||
"Can you break it down for us into layman’s terms ? Of course. Do you claim to have higher standards or more noble beliefs than is the case, and are you alright with being a bit of a sham? No. Yes. "I wanted to reply to show my appreciation for the thread but don't want to explain sorry.
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"I think Estella would make a good Shakespearean actress due to her command of the English language (Chaucer is available too)
One of my nicknames is Mrs Mackerel Plop after Mrs Malaprop from Richard Brinsley Sheridan's 1775 play The Rivals, and the resulting term “malapropism”. I’m known to use the wrong word at the wrong time. Thank you anyway though!!
You have far too many nicknames Missus, it all sounds a bit too fishy to me.
I’m such an Ace Hole "We need to speak!  | |||
"Can you break it down for us into layman’s terms ? Of course. Do you claim to have higher standards or more noble beliefs than is the case, and are you alright with being a bit of a sham? Yes, I'm quite amazed at some of the things I've done that I never thought I would, not on a large scale but too many times all the same. Am I comfotable with it? I'm comfortable with the fact that I've managed to keep it to myself. I’m conflicted because you posted something once that I really disliked, and then the other day I enjoyed your interactions with me in reference to social housing. It’s a conundrum. Was that the night I posted about the lady who had her photos posted without permission? No. It was in relation to sex offenders. I can't remember that but there is a little bit of Frankie Boyle in me that will say things for the shock factor. I'll bear it mind in future. I’m good with Frankie. I should have asked you about it, to be honest. I will if in doubt again.
Now you're just making me want to say something edgy again.
Be a prick and I won’t forgive you!
I'm never a prick, I'm just sometimes misunderstood.id disagree with that"I know. | |||
"Can you break it down for us into layman’s terms ? Of course. Do you claim to have higher standards or more noble beliefs than is the case, and are you alright with being a bit of a sham? Yes, I'm quite amazed at some of the things I've done that I never thought I would, not on a large scale but too many times all the same. Am I comfotable with it? I'm comfortable with the fact that I've managed to keep it to myself. I’m conflicted because you posted something once that I really disliked, and then the other day I enjoyed your interactions with me in reference to social housing. It’s a conundrum. Was that the night I posted about the lady who had her photos posted without permission? No. It was in relation to sex offenders. I can't remember that but there is a little bit of Frankie Boyle in me that will say things for the shock factor. I'll bear it mind in future. I’m good with Frankie. I should have asked you about it, to be honest. I will if in doubt again.
Now you're just making me want to say something edgy again.
Be a prick and I won’t forgive you!
I'm never a prick, I'm just sometimes misunderstood."Hahaha. | |||
"Can you break it down for us into layman’s terms ? Of course. Do you claim to have higher standards or more noble beliefs than is the case, and are you alright with being a bit of a sham? Yes, I'm quite amazed at some of the things I've done that I never thought I would, not on a large scale but too many times all the same. Am I comfotable with it? I'm comfortable with the fact that I've managed to keep it to myself. I’m conflicted because you posted something once that I really disliked, and then the other day I enjoyed your interactions with me in reference to social housing. It’s a conundrum. Was that the night I posted about the lady who had her photos posted without permission? No. It was in relation to sex offenders. I can't remember that but there is a little bit of Frankie Boyle in me that will say things for the shock factor. I'll bear it mind in future. I’m good with Frankie. I should have asked you about it, to be honest. I will if in doubt again.
Now you're just making me want to say something edgy again.
Be a prick and I won’t forgive you!
I'm never a prick, I'm just sometimes misunderstood.id disagree with that"Do you know him well in real life? | |||
"Can you break it down for us into layman’s terms ? Of course. Do you claim to have higher standards or more noble beliefs than is the case, and are you alright with being a bit of a sham? No. Yes.
I wanted to reply to show my appreciation for the thread but don't want to explain sorry.
"Not at all!! Your answer has much validity in its succinctness actually! (Hope all okay x) | |||
"I think Estella would make a good Shakespearean actress due to her command of the English language (Chaucer is available too)
One of my nicknames is Mrs Mackerel Plop after Mrs Malaprop from Richard Brinsley Sheridan's 1775 play The Rivals, and the resulting term “malapropism”. I’m known to use the wrong word at the wrong time. Thank you anyway though!!
You have far too many nicknames Missus, it all sounds a bit too fishy to me.
I’m such an Ace Hole
We need to speak! " | |||
"Can you break it down for us into layman’s terms ? Of course. Do you claim to have higher standards or more noble beliefs than is the case, and are you alright with being a bit of a sham? Yes, I'm quite amazed at some of the things I've done that I never thought I would, not on a large scale but too many times all the same. Am I comfotable with it? I'm comfortable with the fact that I've managed to keep it to myself. I’m conflicted because you posted something once that I really disliked, and then the other day I enjoyed your interactions with me in reference to social housing. It’s a conundrum. Was that the night I posted about the lady who had her photos posted without permission? No. It was in relation to sex offenders. I can't remember that but there is a little bit of Frankie Boyle in me that will say things for the shock factor. I'll bear it mind in future. I’m good with Frankie. I should have asked you about it, to be honest. I will if in doubt again.
Now you're just making me want to say something edgy again.
Be a prick and I won’t forgive you!
I'm never a prick, I'm just sometimes misunderstood.id disagree with that
Do you know him well in real life?"no. Im jugding him by his forum persona as i do everyone. Its all i have to go on | |||
"Can you break it down for us into layman’s terms ? Of course. Do you claim to have higher standards or more noble beliefs than is the case, and are you alright with being a bit of a sham? Yes, I'm quite amazed at some of the things I've done that I never thought I would, not on a large scale but too many times all the same. Am I comfotable with it? I'm comfortable with the fact that I've managed to keep it to myself. I’m conflicted because you posted something once that I really disliked, and then the other day I enjoyed your interactions with me in reference to social housing. It’s a conundrum. Was that the night I posted about the lady who had her photos posted without permission? No. It was in relation to sex offenders. I can't remember that but there is a little bit of Frankie Boyle in me that will say things for the shock factor. I'll bear it mind in future. I’m good with Frankie. I should have asked you about it, to be honest. I will if in doubt again.
Now you're just making me want to say something edgy again.
Be a prick and I won’t forgive you!
I'm never a prick, I'm just sometimes misunderstood.id disagree with that
Do you know him well in real life?"No, she just doesn't like and frequently feels the need to let me know. It doesn't matter, she's not part of my target audience.  | |||
"Can you break it down for us into layman’s terms ? Of course. Do you claim to have higher standards or more noble beliefs than is the case, and are you alright with being a bit of a sham? Yes, I'm quite amazed at some of the things I've done that I never thought I would, not on a large scale but too many times all the same. Am I comfotable with it? I'm comfortable with the fact that I've managed to keep it to myself. I’m conflicted because you posted something once that I really disliked, and then the other day I enjoyed your interactions with me in reference to social housing. It’s a conundrum. Was that the night I posted about the lady who had her photos posted without permission? No. It was in relation to sex offenders. I can't remember that but there is a little bit of Frankie Boyle in me that will say things for the shock factor. I'll bear it mind in future. I’m good with Frankie. I should have asked you about it, to be honest. I will if in doubt again.
Now you're just making me want to say something edgy again.
Be a prick and I won’t forgive you!
I'm never a prick, I'm just sometimes misunderstood.id disagree with that
Do you know him well in real life?no. Im jugding him by his forum persona as i do everyone. Its all i have to go on"It’s actually almost a perfect example of my thread premise though. Luckily you’ve already stated you’re comfortable with your own hypocrisy!  | |||
"Can you break it down for us into layman’s terms ? Of course. Do you claim to have higher standards or more noble beliefs than is the case, and are you alright with being a bit of a sham? Yes, I'm quite amazed at some of the things I've done that I never thought I would, not on a large scale but too many times all the same. Am I comfotable with it? I'm comfortable with the fact that I've managed to keep it to myself. I’m conflicted because you posted something once that I really disliked, and then the other day I enjoyed your interactions with me in reference to social housing. It’s a conundrum. Was that the night I posted about the lady who had her photos posted without permission? No. It was in relation to sex offenders. I can't remember that but there is a little bit of Frankie Boyle in me that will say things for the shock factor. I'll bear it mind in future. I’m good with Frankie. I should have asked you about it, to be honest. I will if in doubt again.
Now you're just making me want to say something edgy again.
Be a prick and I won’t forgive you!
I'm never a prick, I'm just sometimes misunderstood.id disagree with that
Do you know him well in real life?
No, she just doesn't like and frequently feels the need to let me know.
It doesn't matter, she's not part of my target audience. "what you mean is you dont like being called out on stuff. Its as simple as that and its not just me that calls you out | |||
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"Can you break it down for us into layman’s terms ? Of course. Do you claim to have higher standards or more noble beliefs than is the case, and are you alright with being a bit of a sham? Yes, I'm quite amazed at some of the things I've done that I never thought I would, not on a large scale but too many times all the same. Am I comfotable with it? I'm comfortable with the fact that I've managed to keep it to myself. I’m conflicted because you posted something once that I really disliked, and then the other day I enjoyed your interactions with me in reference to social housing. It’s a conundrum. Was that the night I posted about the lady who had her photos posted without permission? No. It was in relation to sex offenders. I can't remember that but there is a little bit of Frankie Boyle in me that will say things for the shock factor. I'll bear it mind in future. I’m good with Frankie. I should have asked you about it, to be honest. I will if in doubt again.
Now you're just making me want to say something edgy again.
Be a prick and I won’t forgive you!
I'm never a prick, I'm just sometimes misunderstood.id disagree with that
Do you know him well in real life?no. Im jugding him by his forum persona as i do everyone. Its all i have to go on
It’s actually almost a perfect example of my thread premise though. Luckily you’ve already stated you’re comfortable with your own hypocrisy! "i am and there should be a few more in the forums that should be happy with theirs. At least i dont try and pretend to be something im not | |||
"Okay please let’s not be personal and rude on my thread. " like you never get personal when your not getting your own way | |||
"Okay please let’s not be personal and rude on my thread. " My whole happiness is quantified by how rude I'm allowed to be on your thread. | |||
"Can you break it down for us into layman’s terms ? Of course. Do you claim to have higher standards or more noble beliefs than is the case, and are you alright with being a bit of a sham? Yes, I'm quite amazed at some of the things I've done that I never thought I would, not on a large scale but too many times all the same. Am I comfotable with it? I'm comfortable with the fact that I've managed to keep it to myself. I’m conflicted because you posted something once that I really disliked, and then the other day I enjoyed your interactions with me in reference to social housing. It’s a conundrum. Was that the night I posted about the lady who had her photos posted without permission? No. It was in relation to sex offenders. I can't remember that but there is a little bit of Frankie Boyle in me that will say things for the shock factor. I'll bear it mind in future. I’m good with Frankie. I should have asked you about it, to be honest. I will if in doubt again.
Now you're just making me want to say something edgy again.
Be a prick and I won’t forgive you!
I'm never a prick, I'm just sometimes misunderstood.id disagree with that
Do you know him well in real life?no. Im jugding him by his forum persona as i do everyone. Its all i have to go on
It’s actually almost a perfect example of my thread premise though. Luckily you’ve already stated you’re comfortable with your own hypocrisy! i am and there should be a few more in the forums that should be happy with theirs. At least i dont try and pretend to be something im not"But it’s not about intentional and purposeful pretending to be something else, that’s not the premise of the thread. And that’s actually taking it into an area that’s all a bit judgemental of others. It was about self reflection. | |||
"Okay please let’s not be personal and rude on my thread. like you never get personal when your not getting your own way "Mmmm. Interesting. | |||
"Can you break it down for us into layman’s terms ? Of course. Do you claim to have higher standards or more noble beliefs than is the case, and are you alright with being a bit of a sham? Yes, I'm quite amazed at some of the things I've done that I never thought I would, not on a large scale but too many times all the same. Am I comfotable with it? I'm comfortable with the fact that I've managed to keep it to myself. I’m conflicted because you posted something once that I really disliked, and then the other day I enjoyed your interactions with me in reference to social housing. It’s a conundrum. Was that the night I posted about the lady who had her photos posted without permission? No. It was in relation to sex offenders. I can't remember that but there is a little bit of Frankie Boyle in me that will say things for the shock factor. I'll bear it mind in future. I’m good with Frankie. I should have asked you about it, to be honest. I will if in doubt again.
Now you're just making me want to say something edgy again.
Be a prick and I won’t forgive you!
I'm never a prick, I'm just sometimes misunderstood.id disagree with that
Do you know him well in real life?no. Im jugding him by his forum persona as i do everyone. Its all i have to go on
It’s actually almost a perfect example of my thread premise though. Luckily you’ve already stated you’re comfortable with your own hypocrisy! i am and there should be a few more in the forums that should be happy with theirs. At least i dont try and pretend to be something im not
But it’s not about intentional and purposeful pretending to be something else, that’s not the premise of the thread. And that’s actually taking it into an area that’s all a bit judgemental of others. It was about self reflection."well as ive asked you twice to explain the thread so i understand it and you havent then theres no point me coming back to it.Your always wanting people to clarify stuff and when your asked to do the same you cant be bothered | |||
"Can you break it down for us into layman’s terms ? Of course. Do you claim to have higher standards or more noble beliefs than is the case, and are you alright with being a bit of a sham? Yes, I'm quite amazed at some of the things I've done that I never thought I would, not on a large scale but too many times all the same. Am I comfotable with it? I'm comfortable with the fact that I've managed to keep it to myself. I’m conflicted because you posted something once that I really disliked, and then the other day I enjoyed your interactions with me in reference to social housing. It’s a conundrum. Was that the night I posted about the lady who had her photos posted without permission? No. It was in relation to sex offenders. I can't remember that but there is a little bit of Frankie Boyle in me that will say things for the shock factor. I'll bear it mind in future. I’m good with Frankie. I should have asked you about it, to be honest. I will if in doubt again.
Now you're just making me want to say something edgy again.
Be a prick and I won’t forgive you!
I'm never a prick, I'm just sometimes misunderstood.id disagree with that
Do you know him well in real life?no. Im jugding him by his forum persona as i do everyone. Its all i have to go on
It’s actually almost a perfect example of my thread premise though. Luckily you’ve already stated you’re comfortable with your own hypocrisy! i am and there should be a few more in the forums that should be happy with theirs. At least i dont try and pretend to be something im not
But it’s not about intentional and purposeful pretending to be something else, that’s not the premise of the thread. And that’s actually taking it into an area that’s all a bit judgemental of others. It was about self reflection.well as ive asked you twice to explain the thread so i understand it and you havent then theres no point me coming back to it.Your always wanting people to clarify stuff and when your asked to do the same you cant be bothered"I’m sorry that I’ve struggled to find the words (and said as much) to clarify it so that you understood me. I have reclarified a few times on the thread but I appreciate you are saying you still don’t understand. Perhaps I’m trying to process and phrase clearly too and the thread is helping me to do so. My inability to clarify for you personally wasn’t from a lack of bother though, I’m sorry you’ve decided it was. I have to admit my brain is also tired from a full day of really intense and tough training too. The thread started this morning! | |||
"Can you break it down for us into layman’s terms ? Of course. Do you claim to have higher standards or more noble beliefs than is the case, and are you alright with being a bit of a sham? No. Yes.
I wanted to reply to show my appreciation for the thread but don't want to explain sorry.
Not at all!! Your answer has much validity in its succinctness actually! (Hope all okay x)"I'm a 'sham' because I often deliberately word my threads (and posts) a certain way to try and get a wide range of answers. I'm aware of how it makes me seem and I'm ok with that. | |||
"Can you break it down for us into layman’s terms ? Of course. Do you claim to have higher standards or more noble beliefs than is the case, and are you alright with being a bit of a sham? No. Yes.
I wanted to reply to show my appreciation for the thread but don't want to explain sorry.
Not at all!! Your answer has much validity in its succinctness actually! (Hope all okay x)
I'm a 'sham' because I often deliberately word my threads (and posts) a certain way to try and get a wide range of answers. I'm aware of how it makes me seem and I'm ok with that. " | |||
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"when I was on here on my last profile, I was a bit of a hypocrite...ok, a lot of one... but now I no longer am so all's well that ends well "And that sits more comfortably with you now then? | |||
"when I was on here on my last profile, I was a bit of a hypocrite...ok, a lot of one... but now I no longer am so all's well that ends well
And that sits more comfortably with you now then? "Your avatar is beautiful btw. | |||
"Are you comfortable with your own hypocrisy?" Yes and no. I freely state that I am a hypocrite in many respects, or that I can act in a hypocritical manner. I am ‘comfortable’ with it in the respect that I accept that I am and that it is beyond my ability (or potentially just my will) to change it. On the other hand, though, I am not comfortable with it because I see hypocrisy as a fault, a corruption of good character. And, for as much as we can accept that nobody is perfect, we’d all rather iron-out our flaws. Some of this formed the core part of my psychotherapy, as it strongly informs the symptoms of my depression and my personality; I set unattainable standards for myself, standards I would not expect of others, but think of myself as lesser to others when I, too, fall short. I think everyone does this to a greater or lesser degree. If I understand your OP correctly, then some examples might help Diamondsmiles understand what you mean. So, some of my own examples; of I’m taking the time to become emotionally invested in somebody, I like to know what they’re doing with their day to day. In the past I have felt hurt when, after speaking to someone for weeks, I hear for the first time about a hobby that is a significant part of their life, or a friend, or a holiday they’re going on. I feel like, if they had invested in me the same way as I was in them, they would have told me. But I -know- that I’ve done that to others; I know that I have neglected to share information, that they might have expected me to tell them. And that’s hypocritical. Or, I get frustrated when I’m shut out, and I feel that I’m being treated unfairly, not being given a chance to say my piece, or make amends. But I know I have shut others out, and forced them to wallow in whatever they did. I was brought up with the principle that you never go to bed fighting with a family member, you resolve it. But I know I have let people stew in unhappiness, as though conferring a punishment upon them. All hypocritical, all wrong, but it takes clinical self-awareness to spot it at the time. | |||
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"I was talking to a female friend last night and was explaining a sequence of paramour interactions for me, how my feelings played out and what had been problematic and the ‘pattern’ I could see I gravitate towards - but - during the recounting I became acutely aware of my own treatment or encounters of others additional to those paramours I was focusing on telling her about, and how I had been guilty (intentionally/unintentionally?) of doing unto them aspects that I had felt victim of by those paramours I was more invested in. I think we all stumble upon our own moments of clarity to be happy in hypocrisy is to become a cold cuntish person Are you comfortable with your own hypocrisy?" | |||
"To me, it’s a balance of congruence, ecology and an I.D/super ego interaction. Also to me, reflection is a great tool." I’ll get called a dick for this, no doubt, but it’s just ‘id’. ‘ID’ is something different. | |||
"Some times it happens, it's never intended. Bernard Shaw was right in theory but you can't always be second guessing other people. It's fairly safe to say most people want to be treated decently. But I'll survive my own past or future hypocrisy. Occasionally I feel bad. That’s got to be a first, a bloke with a cock avatar has mentioned George Bernard Shaw on a thread on the forums. " As someone once said, what a time to be alive | |||
"Some times it happens, it's never intended. Bernard Shaw was right in theory but you can't always be second guessing other people. It's fairly safe to say most people want to be treated decently. But I'll survive my own past or future hypocrisy. Occasionally I feel bad. That’s got to be a first, a bloke with a cock avatar has mentioned George Bernard Shaw on a thread on the forums. As someone once said, what a time to be alive " I'm proper chortling. x | |||
"Some times it happens, it's never intended. Bernard Shaw was right in theory but you can't always be second guessing other people. It's fairly safe to say most people want to be treated decently. But I'll survive my own past or future hypocrisy. Occasionally I feel bad. That’s got to be a first, a bloke with a cock avatar has mentioned George Bernard Shaw on a thread on the forums. As someone once said, what a time to be alive
I'm proper chortling. x"I'm glad someone found it funny x | |||
"Not particularly,but no-one is perfect are they. It's a bit like the ghosting thing,I hate it when it's been done to me,but realised I've done exactly the same in the past. What does the term ghosting mean? I have seen it on a few threads and don't know it. Thanks It's when someone you've known for a while suddenly disappears on you without any warning and doesn't reply to your calls or messages. Maybe someone who you've invested time getting to know. That's my understanding anyway." Thank you for the explanation. | |||
"Some times it happens, it's never intended. Bernard Shaw was right in theory but you can't always be second guessing other people. It's fairly safe to say most people want to be treated decently. But I'll survive my own past or future hypocrisy. Occasionally I feel bad. That’s got to be a first, a bloke with a cock avatar has mentioned George Bernard Shaw on a thread on the forums. As someone once said, what a time to be alive "What a world we live in. | |||
"Yes" ...in a nutshell! | |||
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