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Heathrow is the second busiest airport in the world by international passenger traffic, as well as the busiest airport in Europe by passenger traffic, and the sixth busiest airport in the world by total passenger traffic. It is one of six international airports serving Greater London. In 2017, it handled a record 78.0 million passengers, a 3.1% increase from 2016.
I can't see how it really benefits anyone but the people who will make money out of it, Yes more flights might make your waiting time less in the airport and extra jobs but the environmental damage, Poor health and disruption to local people is a good enough reason to say no
So does it really need to expand ?
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"Expand Gatwick airport, there would be less issues caused during the expansion."
Not an economics expert, but how about an airport like Manchester and spread the wealth a little? |
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If it doesn't expand we will lose a lot of freight traffic to Frankfurt, it's the freight on the planes that keeps your seat costs low, I live and work in the area and say bring it on !!! |
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"Expand Gatwick airport, there would be less issues caused during the expansion.
Not an economics expert, but how about an airport like Manchester and spread the wealth a little?"
I'm guessing because people want to fly into London. |
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I have no idea whether it’s necessary , but as soon I saw that John McDonnell was against it , I was immediately drawn to going with the yes vote . I can’t stand that bloke , and neither can his own party by the look of the labour mps who voted yes with the Tories on this one  |
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"Expand Gatwick airport, there would be less issues caused during the expansion.
Not an economics expert, but how about an airport like Manchester and spread the wealth a little?"
Never going to happen to Manchester or any other airport north of Watford gap for that matter because of the same old anything or anyone north of there, there not bothered |
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"Wikipedia
Heathrow is the second busiest airport in the world by international passenger traffic, as well as the busiest airport in Europe by passenger traffic, and the sixth busiest airport in the world by total passenger traffic. It is one of six international airports serving Greater London. In 2017, it handled a record 78.0 million passengers, a 3.1% increase from 2016.
I can't see how it really benefits anyone but the people who will make money out of it, Yes more flights might make your waiting time less in the airport and extra jobs but the environmental damage, Poor health and disruption to local people is a good enough reason to say no
So does it really need to expand ?
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I've no idea but guess the people who does figures know what there on about..
Some houses have gotta go... Can buy a diffrent one so its one of those things no biggi...
I know full well if I owned house I'd had years and someone was going to pay me over the odds for a allready overpriced house... They keep furniture and lot even the ironing board cos I'd snatch their hand off be gone living far away as possible from a noisy airport with the local traffic to match.
Can't let sentiment get in the way of progress for all
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It's either to become less efficient and effective as a major global and UK transport hub or to expand to improve.
The conservative government has worked to increase environmental pollution and damage and air travel isn't the greatest contributor - but the government approach is abhorrent.
Public train networks should have been improved drastically since the Thatcher years and Heathrow expansion should be fixed to ensuring regional improved access to it and financial benefits from it.
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"I have no idea whether it’s necessary , but as soon I saw that John McDonnell was against it , I was immediately drawn to going with the yes vote . I can’t stand that bloke , and neither can his own party by the look of the labour mps who voted yes with the Tories on this one "
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"I have no idea whether it’s necessary , but as soon I saw that John McDonnell was against it , I was immediately drawn to going with the yes vote . I can’t stand that bloke , and neither can his own party by the look of the labour mps who voted yes with the Tories on this one "
The Labour party allowed their MPs a free vote, unlike the conservatives who has government whips pressuring theirs. McDonnell is an Heathrow area MP, so his views will be shaped partly by the people he represents. |
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i kind of know behind the scenes stuff and once again its all bull shit , polotics and money
for a fact noise polition , disturbing your sleep etc if you live near an airport is all rubbish
i think at stansted for example by law planes shouldnt land after midnight
the trains stop running at midnight
guess what ,planes land all through the night , you are forced as a person landing in the early hours of the morning to get a taxi at treble the fare of a normal taxi
polution from cars in london bla bla bla get penalised big time but planes are never mentioned about air polution
hard to explain my point but trust me its all a bit crooked.
many a local resident living near an airport constantly tell me they are paid thousands of pounds in compensation due to planes flying over there house coming in to land in the middle of the night when not really allowed to
its a very grey area in all aspects ,ranging from pilots and cabin crew working over there hours so to speak
a lorry driver cant do it but a pilot can ..
its a big problem and a law that gets flouted big time without us knowing.
another runway ? hhmmmmmmmm im not sure its safe if the points above are considered
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"I have no idea whether it’s necessary , but as soon I saw that John McDonnell was against it , I was immediately drawn to going with the yes vote . I can’t stand that bloke , and neither can his own party by the look of the labour mps who voted yes with the Tories on this one
The Labour party allowed their MPs a free vote, unlike the conservatives who has government whips pressuring theirs. McDonnell is an Heathrow area MP, so his views will be shaped partly by the people he represents. "
I’m sure he will represent the people with all the vigour he can muster , giving an entirely one sided argument , and waving the flag for the minority who see any progress as something to be against . It’s not just this that I dislike him for , it’s everything he stands for , and everything he’s ever stood for .
Corbyn and him are the reason the Tories are getting a free ride at the moment , and it will continue that way till the Labour Party wake up and realise they are ostracising themselves with these kind of left wing , antagonistic people representing them . |
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I live less than 10 miles from LHR.
Personally i dont think it will make a foggiest bit of difference to what we already experience.
I see it as a good thing. More job creations. Will the air pollution be that much worse? Probably not |
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"Expand Gatwick airport, there would be less issues caused during the expansion.
Not an economics expert, but how about an airport like Manchester and spread the wealth a little?"
Liverpool would be better. |
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"Expand Gatwick airport, there would be less issues caused during the expansion.
Not an economics expert, but how about an airport like Manchester and spread the wealth a little?
Liverpool would be better."
Is there demand for businesses here |
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By *essiCouple
over a year ago
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Quite simply...No
It won’t make a jot of difference to flights and the stacking in the skies, it’s all about revenue from more shops hotels and parking... 3 runways won’t make timetables run faster or easier as the time it takes a plane to take off and land will remain the same so all it means is more congestion which isn’t what that area needs as it’s already in the pollution triangle that is the M25, M4 and Heathrow... and can’t currently meet the environmental targets set down..
And the infrastructure can’t cope now let alone with more traffic.
Expand Stansted or a more central airport |
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As our internal transport network (road and rail) is in chaos and disrepair, the governments priority should be that rather than a runway to an airport that may in likelihood be impacted by Brexit |
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"As our internal transport network (road and rail) is in chaos and disrepair, the governments priority should be that rather than a runway to an airport that may in likelihood be impacted by Brexit "
It’s an international airport.. only regional airports will be impacted by brexit |
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Everyone who cares to check the stats, knows that Britain has a productivity problem. Then they bitch about any attempt to improve our infrastructure, which is one of the biggest enablers of productivity.
No i wouldn't want to live by it, I'd expect to be offered the market price for my house so i could move away from it. |
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"I have no idea whether it’s necessary , but as soon I saw that John McDonnell was against it , I was immediately drawn to going with the yes vote . I can’t stand that bloke , and neither can his own party by the look of the labour mps who voted yes with the Tories on this one
The Labour party allowed their MPs a free vote, unlike the conservatives who has government whips pressuring theirs. McDonnell is an Heathrow area MP, so his views will be shaped partly by the people he represents. "
NIMBYs basically |
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"I have no idea whether it’s necessary , but as soon I saw that John McDonnell was against it , I was immediately drawn to going with the yes vote . I can’t stand that bloke , and neither can his own party by the look of the labour mps who voted yes with the Tories on this one
The Labour party allowed their MPs a free vote, unlike the conservatives who has government whips pressuring theirs. McDonnell is an Heathrow area MP, so his views will be shaped partly by the people he represents.
NIMBYs basically"
Shame Boris didn’t do more for his constituency like Mr McDonnell has... I don’t like either of them but they are supposed to be there for the community which they serve...Boris should be deselected basically, and as for NIMBYs... that’s why Gatwick won’t ever expand....
The corridor that circles Heathrow and surrounding towns/ villages needs better looking after not the threat yet again for expansion |
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"I have no idea whether it’s necessary , but as soon I saw that John McDonnell was against it , I was immediately drawn to going with the yes vote . I can’t stand that bloke , and neither can his own party by the look of the labour mps who voted yes with the Tories on this one
The Labour party allowed their MPs a free vote, unlike the conservatives who has government whips pressuring theirs. McDonnell is an Heathrow area MP, so his views will be shaped partly by the people he represents.
NIMBYs basically
Shame Boris didn’t do more for his constituency like Mr McDonnell has... I don’t like either of them but they are supposed to be there for the community which they serve...Boris should be deselected basically, and as for NIMBYs... that’s why Gatwick won’t ever expand....
The corridor that circles Heathrow and surrounding towns/ villages needs better looking after not the threat yet again for expansion "
Why? There's nothing there of any significance that couldn't be rebuilt anywhere else. It's hardly an area of outstanding natural beauty. Why can't people just move in exchange for fair compensation. |
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"I have no idea whether it’s necessary , but as soon I saw that John McDonnell was against it , I was immediately drawn to going with the yes vote . I can’t stand that bloke , and neither can his own party by the look of the labour mps who voted yes with the Tories on this one
The Labour party allowed their MPs a free vote, unlike the conservatives who has government whips pressuring theirs. McDonnell is an Heathrow area MP, so his views will be shaped partly by the people he represents.
NIMBYs basically
Shame Boris didn’t do more for his constituency like Mr McDonnell has... I don’t like either of them but they are supposed to be there for the community which they serve...Boris should be deselected basically, and as for NIMBYs... that’s why Gatwick won’t ever expand....
The corridor that circles Heathrow and surrounding towns/ villages needs better looking after not the threat yet again for expansion
Why? There's nothing there of any significance that couldn't be rebuilt anywhere else. It's hardly an area of outstanding natural beauty. Why can't people just move in exchange for fair compensation. "
Why ? Are you for real...
Try thinking a little and you’d realise that aside from infrastructure and money and think more about people’s lives(other than work) not all local people work at Heathrow ( funny that )and there family issues and there history..as for fair compensation are you really that naiive? |
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Splitting traffic into more airports doesn't cut it for a service that's in large part about flying in to get a convenient connecting flight out - the bulk or all of the connections should be at the same place. It therefore makes most practical sense to expand Heathrow, rather than Gatwick for this purpose - or any other airport.
I would love the capacity and connections split around other airports, including regional sites but it wouldn't deliver the interconnectedness that's needed for a global hub. Birmingham or East Midlands could be good if there was very fast and cheap transportation to Heathrow and central London, say 40 minutes or so.
At present the UK transport system is messy, expensive and lacks having had the investment needed over previous decades, so it remains heavily dependent upon the south east, where investment is focused.
It would be wonderful if Heathrow expansion was only made subject to vast improvements elsewhere. |
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"Wikipedia
Heathrow is the second busiest airport in the world by international passenger traffic, as well as the busiest airport in Europe by passenger traffic, and the sixth busiest airport in the world by total passenger traffic. It is one of six international airports serving Greater London. In 2017, it handled a record 78.0 million passengers, a 3.1% increase from 2016.
I can't see how it really benefits anyone but the people who will make money out of it, Yes more flights might make your waiting time less in the airport and extra jobs but the environmental damage, Poor health and disruption to local people is a good enough reason to say no
So does it really need to expand ?
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Move it to east mids or Birmingham |
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By *essiCouple
over a year ago
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"Splitting traffic into more airports doesn't cut it for a service that's in large part about flying in to get a convenient connecting flight out - the bulk or all of the connections should be at the same place. It therefore makes most practical sense to expand Heathrow, rather than Gatwick for this purpose - or any other airport.
I would love the capacity and connections split around other airports, including regional sites but it wouldn't deliver the interconnectedness that's needed for a global hub. Birmingham or East Midlands could be good if there was very fast and cheap transportation to Heathrow and central London, say 40 minutes or so.
At present the UK transport system is messy, expensive and lacks having had the investment needed over previous decades, so it remains heavily dependent upon the south east, where investment is focused.
It would be wonderful if Heathrow expansion was only made subject to vast improvements elsewhere. "
And do you think if all this were to happen they would stop at just a third runway....?
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"As our internal transport network (road and rail) is in chaos and disrepair, the governments priority should be that rather than a runway to an airport that may in likelihood be impacted by Brexit
It’s an international airport.. only regional airports will be impacted by brexit "
But as with anything connected to Brexit, no deals have been made about air transit routes. Other European airports will be competing with Heathrow. Add to this possible fuel increases and Heathrow becomes less appealing as a stop off |
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"The UK has been avoiding making a decision for decades..."
... and making this 'decision' (it was only a vote) does not a third runway make. Heathrow was the best choice for long grass. It won't be built in my lifetime. |
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"I have no idea whether it’s necessary , but as soon I saw that John McDonnell was against it , I was immediately drawn to going with the yes vote . I can’t stand that bloke , and neither can his own party by the look of the labour mps who voted yes with the Tories on this one
The Labour party allowed their MPs a free vote, unlike the conservatives who has government whips pressuring theirs. McDonnell is an Heathrow area MP, so his views will be shaped partly by the people he represents.
NIMBYs basically
Shame Boris didn’t do more for his constituency like Mr McDonnell has... I don’t like either of them but they are supposed to be there for the community which they serve...Boris should be deselected basically, and as for NIMBYs... that’s why Gatwick won’t ever expand....
The corridor that circles Heathrow and surrounding towns/ villages needs better looking after not the threat yet again for expansion
Why? There's nothing there of any significance that couldn't be rebuilt anywhere else. It's hardly an area of outstanding natural beauty. Why can't people just move in exchange for fair compensation.
Why ? Are you for real...
Try thinking a little and you’d realise that aside from infrastructure and money and think more about people’s lives(other than work) not all local people work at Heathrow ( funny that )and there family issues and there history..as for fair compensation are you really that naiive?"
You do a good job of making moving house seem like some sort of traumatic event. I assure you that moving people out the way is pretty standard practice when infrastructure needs to be built. |
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I don't know why they don't use tees Durham Valley (teesside) as a feeder for long haul flights. .it is underused and has the longest runway in the UK. .it would make perfect sense as most will travel from Heathrow to different locations within the UK.
Just a idea |
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Typical London-centric government thinking. And therefore a total none issue.
Split the requirement for an increase in capacity between all the other regional airports. And I don’t mean just the ones in the south east!
If the government really believed (and the population really wanted) a high speed rail network linking all the major cities where you put the airport wouldn’t make a difference.
Particularly as a ‘hub’ people will probably not even leave the airport, and freight will be travelling further along roads to its final destination.
Couldn’t care less about the people who live near it. Even if it goes ahead surely the years of huge subsidies and benefits they get from living in Greater London at the expense of the rest of the country will make up for it. |
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"I don't know why they don't use tees Durham Valley (teesside) as a feeder for long haul flights. .it is underused and has the longest runway in the UK. .it would make perfect sense as most will travel from Heathrow to different locations within the UK.
Just a idea "
It’s a shit airport! NCL has had the investment and there is no way the North East needs 2 airports 44 miles apart |
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"I have no idea whether it’s necessary , but as soon I saw that John McDonnell was against it , I was immediately drawn to going with the yes vote . I can’t stand that bloke , and neither can his own party by the look of the labour mps who voted yes with the Tories on this one
The Labour party allowed their MPs a free vote, unlike the conservatives who has government whips pressuring theirs. McDonnell is an Heathrow area MP, so his views will be shaped partly by the people he represents.
NIMBYs basically
Shame Boris didn’t do more for his constituency like Mr McDonnell has... I don’t like either of them but they are supposed to be there for the community which they serve...Boris should be deselected basically, and as for NIMBYs... that’s why Gatwick won’t ever expand....
The corridor that circles Heathrow and surrounding towns/ villages needs better looking after not the threat yet again for expansion
Why? There's nothing there of any significance that couldn't be rebuilt anywhere else. It's hardly an area of outstanding natural beauty. Why can't people just move in exchange for fair compensation.
Why ? Are you for real...
Try thinking a little and you’d realise that aside from infrastructure and money and think more about people’s lives(other than work) not all local people work at Heathrow ( funny that )and there family issues and there history..as for fair compensation are you really that naiive?
You do a good job of making moving house seem like some sort of traumatic event. I assure you that moving people out the way is pretty standard practice when infrastructure needs to be built. "
That is not my intention at all... but it can be for many reasons. You are missing the point completely. Just because Heathrow is one of the top airports why should it be the only one considered for a third runaway which if it does happen won’t make any real difference to flying said for costing those who use it more as there will be more shops to pass through just like terminal 5...people living close by may want to move but will be offered far less and be in a no win situation if it’s compulsory purchased so yes that will be traumatic as well as the fact they probably have lived there all there lives, raised families and have loved ones buried in the vicinity also...
Now tell me again how easy it will be... |
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"I don't know why they don't use tees Durham Valley (teesside) as a feeder for long haul flights. .it is underused and has the longest runway in the UK. .it would make perfect sense as most will travel from Heathrow to different locations within the UK.
Just a idea
It’s a shit airport! NCL has had the investment and there is no way the North East needs 2 airports 44 miles apart"
And London has 4 each within 1hour drive...? |
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"Typical London-centric government thinking. And therefore a total none issue.
Split the requirement for an increase in capacity between all the other regional airports. And I don’t mean just the ones in the south east!
If the government really believed (and the population really wanted) a high speed rail network linking all the major cities where you put the airport wouldn’t make a difference.
Particularly as a ‘hub’ people will probably not even leave the airport, and freight will be travelling further along roads to its final destination.
Couldn’t care less about the people who live near it. Even if it goes ahead surely the years of huge subsidies and benefits they get from living in Greater London at the expense of the rest of the country will make up for it. "
Hmm, so London being a net contributor of £26bn that subsidises the rest of the country means we're living off the rest of the country?
As to the OP, as Zac Goldsmith once said to me, Heathrow is like herpes - it never goes away.
This will be argued about for another 5 years. I've been listening to arguments for and against for at least 10 years. I've reached the point where I don't care which airport is chosen, I just want them to get on with it.
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"I have no idea whether it’s necessary , but as soon I saw that John McDonnell was against it , I was immediately drawn to going with the yes vote . I can’t stand that bloke , and neither can his own party by the look of the labour mps who voted yes with the Tories on this one
The Labour party allowed their MPs a free vote, unlike the conservatives who has government whips pressuring theirs. McDonnell is an Heathrow area MP, so his views will be shaped partly by the people he represents.
NIMBYs basically
Shame Boris didn’t do more for his constituency like Mr McDonnell has... I don’t like either of them but they are supposed to be there for the community which they serve...Boris should be deselected basically, and as for NIMBYs... that’s why Gatwick won’t ever expand....
The corridor that circles Heathrow and surrounding towns/ villages needs better looking after not the threat yet again for expansion
Why? There's nothing there of any significance that couldn't be rebuilt anywhere else. It's hardly an area of outstanding natural beauty. Why can't people just move in exchange for fair compensation.
Why ? Are you for real...
Try thinking a little and you’d realise that aside from infrastructure and money and think more about people’s lives(other than work) not all local people work at Heathrow ( funny that )and there family issues and there history..as for fair compensation are you really that naiive?
You do a good job of making moving house seem like some sort of traumatic event. I assure you that moving people out the way is pretty standard practice when infrastructure needs to be built.
That is not my intention at all... but it can be for many reasons. You are missing the point completely. Just because Heathrow is one of the top airports why should it be the only one considered for a third runaway which if it does happen won’t make any real difference to flying said for costing those who use it more as there will be more shops to pass through just like terminal 5...people living close by may want to move but will be offered far less and be in a no win situation if it’s compulsory purchased so yes that will be traumatic as well as the fact they probably have lived there all there lives, raised families and have loved ones buried in the vicinity also...
Now tell me again how easy it will be... "
It wasn't the only one that was considered though, it went to an evaluation against Gatwick and rightly won. It will benefit from the international traffic using it to connect asia and america with the rest of europe, because we have an awesome time zone. Nobody wants to fly from China to Gatwick or fecking Newcastle.
I don't see why you are automatically assuming people won't be given a fair price for their houses? |
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By *essiCouple
over a year ago
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"I have no idea whether it’s necessary , but as soon I saw that John McDonnell was against it , I was immediately drawn to going with the yes vote . I can’t stand that bloke , and neither can his own party by the look of the labour mps who voted yes with the Tories on this one
The Labour party allowed their MPs a free vote, unlike the conservatives who has government whips pressuring theirs. McDonnell is an Heathrow area MP, so his views will be shaped partly by the people he represents.
NIMBYs basically
Shame Boris didn’t do more for his constituency like Mr McDonnell has... I don’t like either of them but they are supposed to be there for the community which they serve...Boris should be deselected basically, and as for NIMBYs... that’s why Gatwick won’t ever expand....
The corridor that circles Heathrow and surrounding towns/ villages needs better looking after not the threat yet again for expansion
Why? There's nothing there of any significance that couldn't be rebuilt anywhere else. It's hardly an area of outstanding natural beauty. Why can't people just move in exchange for fair compensation.
Why ? Are you for real...
Try thinking a little and you’d realise that aside from infrastructure and money and think more about people’s lives(other than work) not all local people work at Heathrow ( funny that )and there family issues and there history..as for fair compensation are you really that naiive?
You do a good job of making moving house seem like some sort of traumatic event. I assure you that moving people out the way is pretty standard practice when infrastructure needs to be built.
That is not my intention at all... but it can be for many reasons. You are missing the point completely. Just because Heathrow is one of the top airports why should it be the only one considered for a third runaway which if it does happen won’t make any real difference to flying said for costing those who use it more as there will be more shops to pass through just like terminal 5...people living close by may want to move but will be offered far less and be in a no win situation if it’s compulsory purchased so yes that will be traumatic as well as the fact they probably have lived there all there lives, raised families and have loved ones buried in the vicinity also...
Now tell me again how easy it will be...
It wasn't the only one that was considered though, it went to an evaluation against Gatwick and rightly won. It will benefit from the international traffic using it to connect asia and america with the rest of europe, because we have an awesome time zone. Nobody wants to fly from China to Gatwick or fecking Newcastle.
I don't see why you are automatically assuming people won't be given a fair price for their houses? "
Quite simply because when this happened previously the offers that came through to home owners were significantly under market value and I know this because of family....
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"I don't know why they don't use tees Durham Valley (teesside) as a feeder for long haul flights. .it is underused and has the longest runway in the UK. .it would make perfect sense as most will travel from Heathrow to different locations within the UK.
Just a idea
It’s a shit airport! NCL has had the investment and there is no way the North East needs 2 airports 44 miles apart
And London has 4 each within 1hour drive...?"
Greater concentration of population |
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"I have no idea whether it’s necessary , but as soon I saw that John McDonnell was against it , I was immediately drawn to going with the yes vote . I can’t stand that bloke , and neither can his own party by the look of the labour mps who voted yes with the Tories on this one
The Labour party allowed their MPs a free vote, unlike the conservatives who has government whips pressuring theirs. McDonnell is an Heathrow area MP, so his views will be shaped partly by the people he represents.
NIMBYs basically
Shame Boris didn’t do more for his constituency like Mr McDonnell has... I don’t like either of them but they are supposed to be there for the community which they serve...Boris should be deselected basically, and as for NIMBYs... that’s why Gatwick won’t ever expand....
The corridor that circles Heathrow and surrounding towns/ villages needs better looking after not the threat yet again for expansion
Why? There's nothing there of any significance that couldn't be rebuilt anywhere else. It's hardly an area of outstanding natural beauty. Why can't people just move in exchange for fair compensation.
Why ? Are you for real...
Try thinking a little and you’d realise that aside from infrastructure and money and think more about people’s lives(other than work) not all local people work at Heathrow ( funny that )and there family issues and there history..as for fair compensation are you really that naiive?
You do a good job of making moving house seem like some sort of traumatic event. I assure you that moving people out the way is pretty standard practice when infrastructure needs to be built.
That is not my intention at all... but it can be for many reasons. You are missing the point completely. Just because Heathrow is one of the top airports why should it be the only one considered for a third runaway which if it does happen won’t make any real difference to flying said for costing those who use it more as there will be more shops to pass through just like terminal 5...people living close by may want to move but will be offered far less and be in a no win situation if it’s compulsory purchased so yes that will be traumatic as well as the fact they probably have lived there all there lives, raised families and have loved ones buried in the vicinity also...
Now tell me again how easy it will be...
It wasn't the only one that was considered though, it went to an evaluation against Gatwick and rightly won. It will benefit from the international traffic using it to connect asia and america with the rest of europe, because we have an awesome time zone. Nobody wants to fly from China to Gatwick or fecking Newcastle.
I don't see why you are automatically assuming people won't be given a fair price for their houses?
Quite simply because when this happened previously the offers that came through to home owners were significantly under market value and I know this because of family....
And how do you know they will be then..?"
I don't and we can both agree that they should get the market price. I'm not advocating compulsory purchase as a form of theft and that's not an issue specific to Heathrow. |
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By *essiCouple
over a year ago
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"I have no idea whether it’s necessary , but as soon I saw that John McDonnell was against it , I was immediately drawn to going with the yes vote . I can’t stand that bloke , and neither can his own party by the look of the labour mps who voted yes with the Tories on this one
The Labour party allowed their MPs a free vote, unlike the conservatives who has government whips pressuring theirs. McDonnell is an Heathrow area MP, so his views will be shaped partly by the people he represents.
NIMBYs basically
Shame Boris didn’t do more for his constituency like Mr McDonnell has... I don’t like either of them but they are supposed to be there for the community which they serve...Boris should be deselected basically, and as for NIMBYs... that’s why Gatwick won’t ever expand....
The corridor that circles Heathrow and surrounding towns/ villages needs better looking after not the threat yet again for expansion
Why? There's nothing there of any significance that couldn't be rebuilt anywhere else. It's hardly an area of outstanding natural beauty. Why can't people just move in exchange for fair compensation.
Why ? Are you for real...
Try thinking a little and you’d realise that aside from infrastructure and money and think more about people’s lives(other than work) not all local people work at Heathrow ( funny that )and there family issues and there history..as for fair compensation are you really that naiive?
You do a good job of making moving house seem like some sort of traumatic event. I assure you that moving people out the way is pretty standard practice when infrastructure needs to be built.
That is not my intention at all... but it can be for many reasons. You are missing the point completely. Just because Heathrow is one of the top airports why should it be the only one considered for a third runaway which if it does happen won’t make any real difference to flying said for costing those who use it more as there will be more shops to pass through just like terminal 5...people living close by may want to move but will be offered far less and be in a no win situation if it’s compulsory purchased so yes that will be traumatic as well as the fact they probably have lived there all there lives, raised families and have loved ones buried in the vicinity also...
Now tell me again how easy it will be...
It wasn't the only one that was considered though, it went to an evaluation against Gatwick and rightly won. It will benefit from the international traffic using it to connect asia and america with the rest of europe, because we have an awesome time zone. Nobody wants to fly from China to Gatwick or fecking Newcastle.
I don't see why you are automatically assuming people won't be given a fair price for their houses?
Quite simply because when this happened previously the offers that came through to home owners were significantly under market value and I know this because of family....
And how do you know they will be then..?
I don't and we can both agree that they should get the market price. I'm not advocating compulsory purchase as a form of theft and that's not an issue specific to Heathrow. "
I don’t agree to Heathrow being expanded and homes, towns and villages being demolished purely because some bigwig thinks it’s the best place for a 3rd runway....
Nothing will change for the better because of it... |
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"I have no idea whether it’s necessary , but as soon I saw that John McDonnell was against it , I was immediately drawn to going with the yes vote . I can’t stand that bloke , and neither can his own party by the look of the labour mps who voted yes with the Tories on this one
The Labour party allowed their MPs a free vote, unlike the conservatives who has government whips pressuring theirs. McDonnell is an Heathrow area MP, so his views will be shaped partly by the people he represents.
NIMBYs basically
Shame Boris didn’t do more for his constituency like Mr McDonnell has... I don’t like either of them but they are supposed to be there for the community which they serve...Boris should be deselected basically, and as for NIMBYs... that’s why Gatwick won’t ever expand....
The corridor that circles Heathrow and surrounding towns/ villages needs better looking after not the threat yet again for expansion
Why? There's nothing there of any significance that couldn't be rebuilt anywhere else. It's hardly an area of outstanding natural beauty. Why can't people just move in exchange for fair compensation.
Why ? Are you for real...
Try thinking a little and you’d realise that aside from infrastructure and money and think more about people’s lives(other than work) not all local people work at Heathrow ( funny that )and there family issues and there history..as for fair compensation are you really that naiive?
You do a good job of making moving house seem like some sort of traumatic event. I assure you that moving people out the way is pretty standard practice when infrastructure needs to be built.
That is not my intention at all... but it can be for many reasons. You are missing the point completely. Just because Heathrow is one of the top airports why should it be the only one considered for a third runaway which if it does happen won’t make any real difference to flying said for costing those who use it more as there will be more shops to pass through just like terminal 5...people living close by may want to move but will be offered far less and be in a no win situation if it’s compulsory purchased so yes that will be traumatic as well as the fact they probably have lived there all there lives, raised families and have loved ones buried in the vicinity also...
Now tell me again how easy it will be...
It wasn't the only one that was considered though, it went to an evaluation against Gatwick and rightly won. It will benefit from the international traffic using it to connect asia and america with the rest of europe, because we have an awesome time zone. Nobody wants to fly from China to Gatwick or fecking Newcastle.
I don't see why you are automatically assuming people won't be given a fair price for their houses?
Quite simply because when this happened previously the offers that came through to home owners were significantly under market value and I know this because of family....
And how do you know they will be then..?
I don't and we can both agree that they should get the market price. I'm not advocating compulsory purchase as a form of theft and that's not an issue specific to Heathrow.
I don’t agree to Heathrow being expanded and homes, towns and villages being demolished purely because some bigwig thinks it’s the best place for a 3rd runway....
Nothing will change for the better because of it..."
I don't agree nothing will change for the better. If you read the Global Competitiveness Report by the World Economic Forum then it is as good as fact that the UK has a productivity problem and that infrastructure plays a large part in that. Heathrow is an amazing airport, literally top 3 in the world for how good the air traffic control is, potentially #1. It'll bring in the £££'s we need. |
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By *essiCouple
over a year ago
suffolk |
"I have no idea whether it’s necessary , but as soon I saw that John McDonnell was against it , I was immediately drawn to going with the yes vote . I can’t stand that bloke , and neither can his own party by the look of the labour mps who voted yes with the Tories on this one
The Labour party allowed their MPs a free vote, unlike the conservatives who has government whips pressuring theirs. McDonnell is an Heathrow area MP, so his views will be shaped partly by the people he represents.
NIMBYs basically
Shame Boris didn’t do more for his constituency like Mr McDonnell has... I don’t like either of them but they are supposed to be there for the community which they serve...Boris should be deselected basically, and as for NIMBYs... that’s why Gatwick won’t ever expand....
The corridor that circles Heathrow and surrounding towns/ villages needs better looking after not the threat yet again for expansion
Why? There's nothing there of any significance that couldn't be rebuilt anywhere else. It's hardly an area of outstanding natural beauty. Why can't people just move in exchange for fair compensation.
Why ? Are you for real...
Try thinking a little and you’d realise that aside from infrastructure and money and think more about people’s lives(other than work) not all local people work at Heathrow ( funny that )and there family issues and there history..as for fair compensation are you really that naiive?
You do a good job of making moving house seem like some sort of traumatic event. I assure you that moving people out the way is pretty standard practice when infrastructure needs to be built.
That is not my intention at all... but it can be for many reasons. You are missing the point completely. Just because Heathrow is one of the top airports why should it be the only one considered for a third runaway which if it does happen won’t make any real difference to flying said for costing those who use it more as there will be more shops to pass through just like terminal 5...people living close by may want to move but will be offered far less and be in a no win situation if it’s compulsory purchased so yes that will be traumatic as well as the fact they probably have lived there all there lives, raised families and have loved ones buried in the vicinity also...
Now tell me again how easy it will be...
It wasn't the only one that was considered though, it went to an evaluation against Gatwick and rightly won. It will benefit from the international traffic using it to connect asia and america with the rest of europe, because we have an awesome time zone. Nobody wants to fly from China to Gatwick or fecking Newcastle.
I don't see why you are automatically assuming people won't be given a fair price for their houses?
Quite simply because when this happened previously the offers that came through to home owners were significantly under market value and I know this because of family....
And how do you know they will be then..?
I don't and we can both agree that they should get the market price. I'm not advocating compulsory purchase as a form of theft and that's not an issue specific to Heathrow.
I don’t agree to Heathrow being expanded and homes, towns and villages being demolished purely because some bigwig thinks it’s the best place for a 3rd runway....
Nothing will change for the better because of it...
I don't agree nothing will change for the better. If you read the Global Competitiveness Report by the World Economic Forum then it is as good as fact that the UK has a productivity problem and that infrastructure plays a large part in that. Heathrow is an amazing airport, literally top 3 in the world for how good the air traffic control is, potentially #1. It'll bring in the £££'s we need. "
And there you have it.... money money money or potentially...
We have a productivity problem because we don’t make anything here any more... feck all to do with an airport runway |
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" It'll bring in the £££'s we need.
And there you have it.... money money money or potentially...
We have a productivity problem because we don’t make anything here any more... feck all to do with an airport runway"
It's not one or the other. Our infrastructure needs upgrading, that is very clear. |
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By *essiCouple
over a year ago
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" It'll bring in the £££'s we need.
And there you have it.... money money money or potentially...
We have a productivity problem because we don’t make anything here any more... feck all to do with an airport runway
It's not one or the other. Our infrastructure needs upgrading, that is very clear. "
Updating is one thing....
Dealing with it effectively and environmentally is another... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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No going to cost far too much money.
Birmingham int should be upgraded due to location for road, rail and HS2. Plus doesn't have anywhere near the amount of air traffic the ppl of London, Essex and Manchester have to put up with. |
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"Yes Heathrow needs to expand. The new runway will bring lots of jobs to the area.
We live 3 miles from Terminal 5."
perfect sense from a fellow local resident, loving the responses from people up north who have no clue on local Heathrow / Berkshire / Surrey issues |
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By *essiCouple
over a year ago
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"Yes Heathrow needs to expand. The new runway will bring lots of jobs to the area.
We live 3 miles from Terminal 5. perfect sense from a fellow local resident, loving the responses from people up north who have no clue on local Heathrow / Berkshire / Surrey issues "
Born, bred and lived just off junc4 M4 for 40 odd years... so have an idea what I’m talking about |
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By *ill74Man
over a year ago
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As I understand it.
Compulsory purchase, homeowners receive approx 125% of the house value.
3rd runway built on condition of more internal/regional flights.
Planes are becoming a lot more fuel efficient (burning off less fuel). Quieter, and I believe lighter.
I lived within 8 miles of Heathrow Airport for most of my life. The noise didn't affect us. And we didn't receive any compensation in any shape or form.
Directly and indirectly, Heathrow Airport employs (HAL estimate 2013) approx 114,000 people.
I want the expansion. But I understand some of the reasons others don't.
Should more international flights fly to Liverpool/newcastle etc direct? Well, that's upto the airlines, and the airlines customers. Not whoever is in Govvernment.
I don't know if the regional airports are full to capacity, but if they're not, there's little point in expanding them.
I don't have all the answers. I don't profes to know all the answers. But that is my take on it
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By *htcMan
over a year ago
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Yes by far. Should have been given green light before it needed to have one built.
Air traffic is a big business, loose the slots to other airports loose lots of landing fees, meaning less jobs for the airport.
As we're leaving Europe business will be come very competitive with the EU. |
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