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"Yes. She should also be birched for displaying such poor parenting skills. Her child should be placed into care because they are clearly not safe with such an horrendous mother. And they both should have life bans from visiting anything that is arty in any way. Or...... The arty place claims on their insurance and we leave the mother and child alone, because at the end of the day, everyone’s kid has broke something somewhere by doing something they shouldn’t have while mum/dad weren’t watching. " Also...... Where the feck is health and safety?! If a child can pull a statue over then surely it wasn’t being displayed properly and safely. | |||
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"Yes. She should also be birched for displaying such poor parenting skills. Her child should be placed into care because they are clearly not safe with such an horrendous mother. And they both should have life bans from visiting anything that is arty in any way. Or...... The arty place claims on their insurance and we leave the mother and child alone, because at the end of the day, everyone’s kid has broke something somewhere by doing something they shouldn’t have while mum/dad weren’t watching. " Are you suggesting she's not in any way responsible? Because the child's dropped a cup at home it's OK to smash a work of art because "kids will be kids eh"  | |||
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"Yes. She should also be birched for displaying such poor parenting skills. Her child should be placed into care because they are clearly not safe with such an horrendous mother. And they both should have life bans from visiting anything that is arty in any way. Or...... The arty place claims on their insurance and we leave the mother and child alone, because at the end of the day, everyone’s kid has broke something somewhere by doing something they shouldn’t have while mum/dad weren’t watching. Also...... Where the feck is health and safety?! If a child can pull a statue over then surely it wasn’t being displayed properly and safely. " Awesome. Somebody else's fault..... Well played. | |||
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"Yes. She should also be birched for displaying such poor parenting skills. Her child should be placed into care because they are clearly not safe with such an horrendous mother. And they both should have life bans from visiting anything that is arty in any way. Or...... The arty place claims on their insurance and we leave the mother and child alone, because at the end of the day, everyone’s kid has broke something somewhere by doing something they shouldn’t have while mum/dad weren’t watching. "  I do think the parent should bear some responsibility but your first paragraph made me chuckle | |||
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"Yes. She should also be birched for displaying such poor parenting skills. Her child should be placed into care because they are clearly not safe with such an horrendous mother. And they both should have life bans from visiting anything that is arty in any way. Or...... The arty place claims on their insurance and we leave the mother and child alone, because at the end of the day, everyone’s kid has broke something somewhere by doing something they shouldn’t have while mum/dad weren’t watching. Are you suggesting she's not in any way responsible? Because the child's dropped a cup at home it's OK to smash a work of art because "kids will be kids eh" "Yes. They’ll be insured. | |||
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"Yes. She should also be birched for displaying such poor parenting skills. Her child should be placed into care because they are clearly not safe with such an horrendous mother. And they both should have life bans from visiting anything that is arty in any way. Or...... The arty place claims on their insurance and we leave the mother and child alone, because at the end of the day, everyone’s kid has broke something somewhere by doing something they shouldn’t have while mum/dad weren’t watching. Are you suggesting she's not in any way responsible? Because the child's dropped a cup at home it's OK to smash a work of art because "kids will be kids eh"
Yes. They’ll be insured. "Against accidental damages. That's not an accident, that's negligent behaviour. | |||
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"Yes. She should also be birched for displaying such poor parenting skills. Her child should be placed into care because they are clearly not safe with such an horrendous mother. And they both should have life bans from visiting anything that is arty in any way. Or...... The arty place claims on their insurance and we leave the mother and child alone, because at the end of the day, everyone’s kid has broke something somewhere by doing something they shouldn’t have while mum/dad weren’t watching. Are you suggesting she's not in any way responsible? Because the child's dropped a cup at home it's OK to smash a work of art because "kids will be kids eh"
Yes. They’ll be insured. "Because it's insured it's OK and acceptable? | |||
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"Was the museum the right place to take this child?" Sounds like it was the wrong place for the parent....  | |||
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"Yes. She should also be birched for displaying such poor parenting skills. Her child should be placed into care because they are clearly not safe with such an horrendous mother. And they both should have life bans from visiting anything that is arty in any way. Or...... The arty place claims on their insurance and we leave the mother and child alone, because at the end of the day, everyone’s kid has broke something somewhere by doing something they shouldn’t have while mum/dad weren’t watching. Are you suggesting she's not in any way responsible? Because the child's dropped a cup at home it's OK to smash a work of art because "kids will be kids eh"
Yes. They’ll be insured.
Because it's insured it's OK and acceptable?"Parents need to take responsibility for their children while out. Chatting to a friend is not taking responsibility for your child when you are in a museum. | |||
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"No there insured" So if a child deliberately wrecked the paintwork on your car, it would be ok, because you were insured?...  | |||
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"Put it behind glass if u dont want kids to touch it What if it was a school trip " Then a responsibly teacher would be explaining to kids 'hey, the things here are precious and valuable, don't touch' Simple | |||
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"Yes. She should also be birched for displaying such poor parenting skills. Her child should be placed into care because they are clearly not safe with such an horrendous mother. And they both should have life bans from visiting anything that is arty in any way. Or...... The arty place claims on their insurance and we leave the mother and child alone, because at the end of the day, everyone’s kid has broke something somewhere by doing something they shouldn’t have while mum/dad weren’t watching. Are you suggesting she's not in any way responsible? Because the child's dropped a cup at home it's OK to smash a work of art because "kids will be kids eh"
Yes. They’ll be insured.
Because it's insured it's OK and acceptable?"A couple of years ago, a small boy got crushed to death by a massive mirror in a shop in Bicester village. Nobody blamed the boy for fucking about, and nobody blamed the parents. Responsibility lies with the arty place to make sure it’s exhibits are safe and secure. So the parent wasn’t totally in control of their child, big deal! It’s not like she left them in an apartment and fucked off for dinner!! Yes, kids are kids. They do stupid things, and parents deserve a break. At least she was trying to give them some culture and not sitting them in front of a PlayStation with a happy meal. | |||
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"Yes. She should also be birched for displaying such poor parenting skills. Her child should be placed into care because they are clearly not safe with such an horrendous mother. And they both should have life bans from visiting anything that is arty in any way. Or...... The arty place claims on their insurance and we leave the mother and child alone, because at the end of the day, everyone’s kid has broke something somewhere by doing something they shouldn’t have while mum/dad weren’t watching. Are you suggesting she's not in any way responsible? Because the child's dropped a cup at home it's OK to smash a work of art because "kids will be kids eh"
Yes. They’ll be insured.
Because it's insured it's OK and acceptable?
A couple of years ago, a small boy got crushed to death by a massive mirror in a shop in Bicester village. Nobody blamed the boy for fucking about, and nobody blamed the parents. Responsibility lies with the arty place to make sure it’s exhibits are safe and secure. So the parent wasn’t totally in control of their child, big deal! It’s not like she left them in an apartment and fucked off for dinner!!
Yes, kids are kids. They do stupid things, and parents deserve a break. At least she was trying to give them some culture and not sitting them in front of a PlayStation with a happy meal. "Fuck it!!!! I sound like an adult now  | |||
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"Yes. She should also be birched for displaying such poor parenting skills. Her child should be placed into care because they are clearly not safe with such an horrendous mother. And they both should have life bans from visiting anything that is arty in any way. Or...... The arty place claims on their insurance and we leave the mother and child alone, because at the end of the day, everyone’s kid has broke something somewhere by doing something they shouldn’t have while mum/dad weren’t watching. Also...... Where the feck is health and safety?! If a child can pull a statue over then surely it wasn’t being displayed properly and safely. " Yep agree with all that. It could have been a whole different ball game right now if the thing has killed the child. | |||
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"Bet they wish they'd have stuck it behind something now,whoever thought it shouldn't be needs sacking,the poor kid was only hugging it." I saw the CCTV, he was more climbing up it than hugging it. | |||
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"Bet they wish they'd have stuck it behind something now,whoever thought it shouldn't be needs sacking,the poor kid was only hugging it. I saw the CCTV, he was more climbing up it than hugging it." Was he I thought he was just hugging it I haven't seen it myself. Was he climbing up it to hug it do we know? Statues make great climbing thing's for kid's. | |||
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"I've just watched the video clip. Even when the statue was knocked over, none of the parents look at all bothered... "I got the impression that none of those 3 women were his mother, he ran off down the side rather than running towards any of them. So god knows where his parent/s actually were. | |||
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"Yes. She should also be birched for displaying such poor parenting skills. Her child should be placed into care because they are clearly not safe with such an horrendous mother. And they both should have life bans from visiting anything that is arty in any way. Or...... The arty place claims on their insurance and we leave the mother and child alone, because at the end of the day, everyone’s kid has broke something somewhere by doing something they shouldn’t have while mum/dad weren’t watching. " I like  | |||
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" Fuck it!!!! I sound like an adult now " | |||
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"I've just watched the video clip. Even when the statue was knocked over, none of the parents look at all bothered...
I got the impression that none of those 3 women were his mother, he ran off down the side rather than running towards any of them. So god knows where his parent/s actually were."They were not in the room | |||
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"Yes. She should also be birched for displaying such poor parenting skills. Her child should be placed into care because they are clearly not safe with such an horrendous mother. And they both should have life bans from visiting anything that is arty in any way. Or...... The arty place claims on their insurance and we leave the mother and child alone, because at the end of the day, everyone’s kid has broke something somewhere by doing something they shouldn’t have while mum/dad weren’t watching. I like "Nooo! Sue the hell out of her! I like seeing blood | |||
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"This thread is a perfect example of what happens when people are given a small amount of information and then asked for there opinion and then when more information comes out people change their opinion. It's always best to gather as much information as possible before coming to a conclusion. Not just gathering a large quantity of information but a better quality of information." So do you have more information that none of us have? | |||
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"Yes. She should also be birched for displaying such poor parenting skills. Her child should be placed into care because they are clearly not safe with such an horrendous mother. And they both should have life bans from visiting anything that is arty in any way. Or...... The arty place claims on their insurance and we leave the mother and child alone, because at the end of the day, everyone’s kid has broke something somewhere by doing something they shouldn’t have while mum/dad weren’t watching. I like
Nooo! Sue the hell out of her! I like seeing blood "I just liked his post, especially the first bit...I have given no view of whether I think she should pay or not | |||
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"Yes. She should also be birched for displaying such poor parenting skills. Her child should be placed into care because they are clearly not safe with such an horrendous mother. And they both should have life bans from visiting anything that is arty in any way. Or...... The arty place claims on their insurance and we leave the mother and child alone, because at the end of the day, everyone’s kid has broke something somewhere by doing something they shouldn’t have while mum/dad weren’t watching. I like
Nooo! Sue the hell out of her! I like seeing blood
I just liked his post, especially the first bit...I have given no view of whether I think she should pay or not "I don’t care if she should pay or not! I just want a long court case that is an example to other pesky kids and lazy ass parents | |||
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"This thread is a perfect example of what happens when people are given a small amount of information and then asked for there opinion and then when more information comes out people change their opinion. It's always best to gather as much information as possible before coming to a conclusion. Not just gathering a large quantity of information but a better quality of information." Not really. The child was responsible for knocking over an expensive status,statue got damaged. Parent not within whipping distance. Who was responsible?... The dozy sods who thought it wasn't a great idea to make sure it couldn't get damaged,the child for climbing it or the parent. My conclusion all three,but mainly the former for allowing it to happen in the first place. | |||
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"No there insured So if a child deliberately wrecked the paintwork on your car, it would be ok, because you were insured?... "The child didn't take a screwdriver to the statue, he was giving it a hug... quite sweet really! Unfortunately he knocked over. Maybe the mother should have been paying more attention, maybe the gallery should have made the statue more secure. If the child hadn't knocked the statue over a lot of people would have been cooing over the display of affection and praising the mother for having such a sweet child. Typical insurance company trying to apportion blame so it can wriggle out of paying up. Put your pitchforks away! | |||
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"Yes. She should also be birched for displaying such poor parenting skills. Her child should be placed into care because they are clearly not safe with such an horrendous mother. And they both should have life bans from visiting anything that is arty in any way. Or...... The arty place claims on their insurance and we leave the mother and child alone, because at the end of the day, everyone’s kid has broke something somewhere by doing something they shouldn’t have while mum/dad weren’t watching. I like
Nooo! Sue the hell out of her! I like seeing blood
I just liked his post, especially the first bit...I have given no view of whether I think she should pay or not
I don’t care if she should pay or not! I just want a long court case that is an example to other pesky kids and lazy ass parents "They’d took their kid to an art exhibition. They can’t be that lazy. Health and safety in public access areas is far easier to get a win on than proving parental neglect. | |||
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"No there insured So if a child deliberately wrecked the paintwork on your car, it would be ok, because you were insured?...
The child didn't take a screwdriver to the statue, he was giving it a hug... quite sweet really! Unfortunately he knocked over.
Maybe the mother should have been paying more attention, maybe the gallery should have made the statue more secure.
If the child hadn't knocked the statue over a lot of people would have been cooing over the display of affection and praising the mother for having such a sweet child.
Typical insurance company trying to apportion blame so it can wriggle out of paying up. Put your pitchforks away!"He was running about playing with another boy then tried climbing it. Whether he was planning to hug it once he had climbed high enough, who knows. | |||
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"Yes. She should also be birched for displaying such poor parenting skills. Her child should be placed into care because they are clearly not safe with such an horrendous mother. And they both should have life bans from visiting anything that is arty in any way. Or...... The arty place claims on their insurance and we leave the mother and child alone, because at the end of the day, everyone’s kid has broke something somewhere by doing something they shouldn’t have while mum/dad weren’t watching. I like
Nooo! Sue the hell out of her! I like seeing blood
I just liked his post, especially the first bit...I have given no view of whether I think she should pay or not
I don’t care if she should pay or not! I just want a long court case that is an example to other pesky kids and lazy ass parents
They’d took their kid to an art exhibition. They can’t be that lazy. Health and safety in public access areas is far easier to get a win on than proving parental neglect.
"I’m just mad a kids because the other day i have a lift to my friend and his kid and the kid kept on winding up and down the electric window and his dad said nothing!  | |||
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"Yes. She should also be birched for displaying such poor parenting skills. Her child should be placed into care because they are clearly not safe with such an horrendous mother. And they both should have life bans from visiting anything that is arty in any way. Or...... The arty place claims on their insurance and we leave the mother and child alone, because at the end of the day, everyone’s kid has broke something somewhere by doing something they shouldn’t have while mum/dad weren’t watching. I like
Nooo! Sue the hell out of her! I like seeing blood
I just liked his post, especially the first bit...I have given no view of whether I think she should pay or not
I don’t care if she should pay or not! I just want a long court case that is an example to other pesky kids and lazy ass parents
They’d took their kid to an art exhibition. They can’t be that lazy. Health and safety in public access areas is far easier to get a win on than proving parental neglect.
I’m just mad a kids because the other day i have a lift to my friend and his kid and the kid kept on winding up and down the electric window and his dad said nothing! "At** gave** | |||
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"Yes. She should also be birched for displaying such poor parenting skills. Her child should be placed into care because they are clearly not safe with such an horrendous mother. And they both should have life bans from visiting anything that is arty in any way. Or...... The arty place claims on their insurance and we leave the mother and child alone, because at the end of the day, everyone’s kid has broke something somewhere by doing something they shouldn’t have while mum/dad weren’t watching. I like
Nooo! Sue the hell out of her! I like seeing blood
I just liked his post, especially the first bit...I have given no view of whether I think she should pay or not
I don’t care if she should pay or not! I just want a long court case that is an example to other pesky kids and lazy ass parents
They’d took their kid to an art exhibition. They can’t be that lazy. Health and safety in public access areas is far easier to get a win on than proving parental neglect.
I’m just mad a kids because the other day i have a lift to my friend and his kid and the kid kept on winding up and down the electric window and his dad said nothing! "Over use of an electric window you say?! Burn him!!!! | |||
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"This was on This Morning yesterday. Yes, the whiney woman was neglectful, who allows a child that young to wander around the rest of a community centre that's open to the public whilst at a wedding reception being held in one room? The community center should also take partial responsibility as the statue was not securely displayed. They should pay half each." Are you Robin Hood? | |||
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"Yes. She should also be birched for displaying such poor parenting skills. Her child should be placed into care because they are clearly not safe with such an horrendous mother. And they both should have life bans from visiting anything that is arty in any way. Or...... The arty place claims on their insurance and we leave the mother and child alone, because at the end of the day, everyone’s kid has broke something somewhere by doing something they shouldn’t have while mum/dad weren’t watching. I like
Nooo! Sue the hell out of her! I like seeing blood
I just liked his post, especially the first bit...I have given no view of whether I think she should pay or not
I don’t care if she should pay or not! I just want a long court case that is an example to other pesky kids and lazy ass parents
They’d took their kid to an art exhibition. They can’t be that lazy. Health and safety in public access areas is far easier to get a win on than proving parental neglect.
I’m just mad a kids because the other day i have a lift to my friend and his kid and the kid kept on winding up and down the electric window and his dad said nothing!
Over use of an electric window you say?!
Burn him!!!!"Let’s not get carried away, it was parental responsibility to stop the minor | |||
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"Yes. She should also be birched for displaying such poor parenting skills. Her child should be placed into care because they are clearly not safe with such an horrendous mother. And they both should have life bans from visiting anything that is arty in any way. Or...... The arty place claims on their insurance and we leave the mother and child alone, because at the end of the day, everyone’s kid has broke something somewhere by doing something they shouldn’t have while mum/dad weren’t watching. I like
Nooo! Sue the hell out of her! I like seeing blood
I just liked his post, especially the first bit...I have given no view of whether I think she should pay or not
I don’t care if she should pay or not! I just want a long court case that is an example to other pesky kids and lazy ass parents
They’d took their kid to an art exhibition. They can’t be that lazy. Health and safety in public access areas is far easier to get a win on than proving parental neglect.
I’m just mad a kids because the other day i have a lift to my friend and his kid and the kid kept on winding up and down the electric window and his dad said nothing!
Over use of an electric window you say?!
Burn him!!!!
Let’s not get carried away, it was parental responsibility to stop the minor "Yeah, but electric windows are such fun | |||
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"Yes. She should also be birched for displaying such poor parenting skills. Her child should be placed into care because they are clearly not safe with such an horrendous mother. And they both should have life bans from visiting anything that is arty in any way. Or...... The arty place claims on their insurance and we leave the mother and child alone, because at the end of the day, everyone’s kid has broke something somewhere by doing something they shouldn’t have while mum/dad weren’t watching. I like
Nooo! Sue the hell out of her! I like seeing blood
I just liked his post, especially the first bit...I have given no view of whether I think she should pay or not
I don’t care if she should pay or not! I just want a long court case that is an example to other pesky kids and lazy ass parents
They’d took their kid to an art exhibition. They can’t be that lazy. Health and safety in public access areas is far easier to get a win on than proving parental neglect.
I’m just mad a kids because the other day i have a lift to my friend and his kid and the kid kept on winding up and down the electric window and his dad said nothing!
Over use of an electric window you say?!
Burn him!!!!
Let’s not get carried away, it was parental responsibility to stop the minor
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"Mind you when my nephew tipped an entire tub of Chanel No 5 after bath powder down the loo I thought his mother should have replaced it!! "How old was he? | |||
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"This was on This Morning yesterday. Yes, the whiney woman was neglectful, who allows a child that young to wander around the rest of a community centre that's open to the public whilst at a wedding reception being held in one room? The community center should also take partial responsibility as the statue was not securely displayed. They should pay half each. Are you Robin Hood? " Yes, yes I am | |||
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"Mind you when my nephew tipped an entire tub of Chanel No 5 after bath powder down the loo I thought his mother should have replaced it!!
How old was he?"I suspect you are going to say naughty years | |||
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"Mind you when my nephew tipped an entire tub of Chanel No 5 after bath powder down the loo I thought his mother should have replaced it!!
How old was he?"I can't remember - very young, 6 or something like that? It was a special gift from my ex, one of those big expensive powder puff boxes and I adored it! | |||
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"Mind you when my nephew tipped an entire tub of Chanel No 5 after bath powder down the loo I thought his mother should have replaced it!!
How old was he?
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"Pay the full value of the piece, no. Pay the insurance premium of having it professionally repaired, yes. The museum should also be forced to install better security around such valuable pieces if they don't want them damaged to protect them, and anyone it had the potential to fall on. The museum should have had appropriate guarding around the statue if it was so valuable and in a position to be easily knocked over. Any venue that has high value stock within easy reach of a child, is no place to take them until they're old enough to understand they can't play with them. The mom should have been paying more attention to what her child was doing. No, I'm not a pefect parent who watches their child every second, but I also sure as hell wouldn't take her somewhere with expensive and valuable items that can be easily reached or damaged and then leave her to her own devices. They're all at fault. " It was a community center not a museum. They had the statue on loan from a local sculptor. The family were at a wedding reception being held in one of the rooms there. The stature was in the public lobby. The mother was in the room at the reception, the child was roaming round the rest of the building alone. After the statue fell another woman (a member of the public) checked the child was ok. It took the mother a further 5 minutes to come out and see what all the fuss was about. | |||
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"No there insured So if a child deliberately wrecked the paintwork on your car, it would be ok, because you were insured?...
The child didn't take a screwdriver to the statue, he was giving it a hug... quite sweet really! Unfortunately he knocked over.
Maybe the mother should have been paying more attention, maybe the gallery should have made the statue more secure.
If the child hadn't knocked the statue over a lot of people would have been cooing over the display of affection and praising the mother for having such a sweet child.
Typical insurance company trying to apportion blame so it can wriggle out of paying up. Put your pitchforks away!
He was running about playing with another boy then tried climbing it. Whether he was planning to hug it once he had climbed high enough, who knows."The original post stated the child was seen on CCTV hugging the statue but, you're right...who knows! Parents should have been paying more attention to what their child was up too. Gallery should have secured the statue better. I still think the insurance company should pay up! Anyway, who doesn't like a broken statue? All the best museums are full of them! Maybe the mother could offer to fix it. It could even improve the statues appeal, some of the worlds best art has been collaborations. Pablo Picasso and Gjon Mili - painting with light. Andy Warhol and Jean-Michel Basquiat - Olympic Rings. | |||
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"No there insured So if a child deliberately wrecked the paintwork on your car, it would be ok, because you were insured?...
The child didn't take a screwdriver to the statue, he was giving it a hug... quite sweet really! Unfortunately he knocked over.
Maybe the mother should have been paying more attention, maybe the gallery should have made the statue more secure.
If the child hadn't knocked the statue over a lot of people would have been cooing over the display of affection and praising the mother for having such a sweet child.
Typical insurance company trying to apportion blame so it can wriggle out of paying up. Put your pitchforks away!
He was running about playing with another boy then tried climbing it. Whether he was planning to hug it once he had climbed high enough, who knows.
The original post stated the child was seen on CCTV hugging the statue but, you're right...who knows!
Parents should have been paying more attention to what their child was up too.
Gallery should have secured the statue better.
I still think the insurance company should pay up!
Anyway, who doesn't like a broken statue? All the best museums are full of them!
Maybe the mother could offer to fix it. It could even improve the statues appeal, some of the worlds best art has been collaborations.
Pablo Picasso and Gjon Mili - painting with light.
Andy Warhol and Jean-Michel Basquiat - Olympic Rings.
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"Yes. She should also be birched for displaying such poor parenting skills. Her child should be placed into care because they are clearly not safe with such an horrendous mother. And they both should have life bans from visiting anything that is arty in any way. Or...... The arty place claims on their insurance and we leave the mother and child alone, because at the end of the day, everyone’s kid has broke something somewhere by doing something they shouldn’t have while mum/dad weren’t watching. I like
Nooo! Sue the hell out of her! I like seeing blood
I just liked his post, especially the first bit...I have given no view of whether I think she should pay or not
I don’t care if she should pay or not! I just want a long court case that is an example to other pesky kids and lazy ass parents
They’d took their kid to an art exhibition. They can’t be that lazy. Health and safety in public access areas is far easier to get a win on than proving parental neglect.
I’m just mad a kids because the other day i have a lift to my friend and his kid and the kid kept on winding up and down the electric window and his dad said nothing!
Over use of an electric window you say?!
Burn him!!!!
Let’s not get carried away, it was parental responsibility to stop the minor
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"This was on This Morning yesterday. Yes, the whiney woman was neglectful, who allows a child that young to wander around the rest of a community centre that's open to the public whilst at a wedding reception being held in one room? The community center should also take partial responsibility as the statue was not securely displayed. They should pay half each." She's typical white trash. She lost all my support when she said "the event wasn't fancy, it wasn't at a gallery or a museum". She's got a really annoying voice too. On the other hand, I'd probably still do her. So i am conflicted a little. | |||
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"No there insured So if a child deliberately wrecked the paintwork on your car, it would be ok, because you were insured?...
The child didn't take a screwdriver to the statue, he was giving it a hug... quite sweet really! Unfortunately he knocked over.
Maybe the mother should have been paying more attention, maybe the gallery should have made the statue more secure.
If the child hadn't knocked the statue over a lot of people would have been cooing over the display of affection and praising the mother for having such a sweet child.
Typical insurance company trying to apportion blame so it can wriggle out of paying up. Put your pitchforks away!
He was running about playing with another boy then tried climbing it. Whether he was planning to hug it once he had climbed high enough, who knows.
The original post stated the child was seen on CCTV hugging the statue but, you're right...who knows!
Parents should have been paying more attention to what their child was up too.
Gallery should have secured the statue better.
I still think the insurance company should pay up!
Anyway, who doesn't like a broken statue? All the best museums are full of them!
Maybe the mother could offer to fix it. It could even improve the statues appeal, some of the worlds best art has been collaborations.
Pablo Picasso and Gjon Mili - painting with light.
Andy Warhol and Jean-Michel Basquiat - Olympic Rings.
That child could’ve been nicked, you know "Are we talking having his collar felt by the rozzers... would have served him right, bloody little hooligan | |||
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"No there insured So if a child deliberately wrecked the paintwork on your car, it would be ok, because you were insured?...
The child didn't take a screwdriver to the statue, he was giving it a hug... quite sweet really! Unfortunately he knocked over.
Maybe the mother should have been paying more attention, maybe the gallery should have made the statue more secure.
If the child hadn't knocked the statue over a lot of people would have been cooing over the display of affection and praising the mother for having such a sweet child.
Typical insurance company trying to apportion blame so it can wriggle out of paying up. Put your pitchforks away!
He was running about playing with another boy then tried climbing it. Whether he was planning to hug it once he had climbed high enough, who knows.
The original post stated the child was seen on CCTV hugging the statue but, you're right...who knows!
Parents should have been paying more attention to what their child was up too.
Gallery should have secured the statue better.
I still think the insurance company should pay up!
Anyway, who doesn't like a broken statue? All the best museums are full of them!
Maybe the mother could offer to fix it. It could even improve the statues appeal, some of the worlds best art has been collaborations.
Pablo Picasso and Gjon Mili - painting with light.
Andy Warhol and Jean-Michel Basquiat - Olympic Rings.
That child could’ve been nicked, you know
Are we talking having his collar felt by the rozzers... would have served him right, bloody little hooligan "Not nicked by rozzers, I meant nicked nicked! | |||
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"Pay the full value of the piece, no. Pay the insurance premium of having it professionally repaired, yes. The museum should also be forced to install better security around such valuable pieces if they don't want them damaged to protect them, and anyone it had the potential to fall on. The museum should have had appropriate guarding around the statue if it was so valuable and in a position to be easily knocked over. Any venue that has high value stock within easy reach of a child, is no place to take them until they're old enough to understand they can't play with them. The mom should have been paying more attention to what her child was doing. No, I'm not a pefect parent who watches their child every second, but I also sure as hell wouldn't take her somewhere with expensive and valuable items that can be easily reached or damaged and then leave her to her own devices. They're all at fault. It was a community center not a museum. They had the statue on loan from a local sculptor. The family were at a wedding reception being held in one of the rooms there. The stature was in the public lobby. The mother was in the room at the reception, the child was roaming round the rest of the building alone. After the statue fell another woman (a member of the public) checked the child was ok. It took the mother a further 5 minutes to come out and see what all the fuss was about. " Jesus, anything could have happened to that child then. She's lucky that the worst thing to happen is getting a bill for her negligence | |||
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"It would be interesting to get Donald Trump’s opinion on it "Just checked, he said it was fake news | |||
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"I’m sorry, but in my job I install all kinds of shit and it’s all in public areas. I have to provide method statements and risk assessments for everything I do. I have to provide certification for everything including my competence. I am liable for everything I do and have to ensure it is safe and secure. The kid and his parents were enjoying a wedding reception. It’s the venues and exhibit installers responsibility to ensure the exhibit was safe. It didn’t get pushed over by an inebriated adult, it got hugged by a child. " So it’s statue’s fault? | |||
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"For those commenting on insurance, yes an insurance company would probably pay out. However, thaw mother has vicarious liability and they would seek to recover their outlay from her. The child is a minor in her care and she has failed in her to duty to adequately supervise the child. I would guess there are implied terms upon entry regarding damages also. That’s the interpretation of the law. My view? Yes the mother has been negligent and if the child knocked over eggs in Asda messing about the mother should play, the value is only an extrapolating of cost and no different." Insuers only generally pursue recoveries against those with the means to pay. Otherwise it's not worth the legal cost And I would love to see you argue any vicarious liability matter here in UK or Irish Courts. It would in all probability be thrown out at a very early stage on the grounds of reasonableness. All of which ignores the fact that you can't sue a minor and indeed your faith in the courts supporting this being the "failure of the mother's duty of care" is somewhat optimistic. | |||
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"Mind you when my nephew tipped an entire tub of Chanel No 5 after bath powder down the loo I thought his mother should have replaced it!!
How old was he?
I can't remember - very young, 6 or something like that? It was a special gift from my ex, one of those big expensive powder puff boxes and I adored it! "We were at my parents house one and I realized that it was a little too quiet. My niece's were doing jigsaws and watching telly and practicing their dance routines to take that when we left them to enjoy the sunshine and peace and quiet of the garden. When I went in to find out what the unnatural quiet was all about, they were in grandmas bedroom mixing all her expensive perfumes together
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"I’m sorry, but in my job I install all kinds of shit and it’s all in public areas. I have to provide method statements and risk assessments for everything I do. I have to provide certification for everything including my competence. I am liable for everything I do and have to ensure it is safe and secure. The kid and his parents were enjoying a wedding reception. It’s the venues and exhibit installers responsibility to ensure the exhibit was safe. It didn’t get pushed over by an inebriated adult, it got hugged by a child. So it’s statue’s fault? "Exactly!!! It was Venus de fucking Milo’s fault!!! | |||
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"I’m sorry, but in my job I install all kinds of shit and it’s all in public areas. I have to provide method statements and risk assessments for everything I do. I have to provide certification for everything including my competence. I am liable for everything I do and have to ensure it is safe and secure. The kid and his parents were enjoying a wedding reception. It’s the venues and exhibit installers responsibility to ensure the exhibit was safe. It didn’t get pushed over by an inebriated adult, it got hugged by a child. So it’s statue’s fault?
Exactly!!! It was Venus de fucking Milo’s fault!!!"If you kid goes and damages neighbour’s car.. who’s ass is going to pay? | |||
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"No there insured So if a child deliberately wrecked the paintwork on your car, it would be ok, because you were insured?...
The child didn't take a screwdriver to the statue, he was giving it a hug... quite sweet really! Unfortunately he knocked over.
Maybe the mother should have been paying more attention, maybe the gallery should have made the statue more secure.
If the child hadn't knocked the statue over a lot of people would have been cooing over the display of affection and praising the mother for having such a sweet child.
Typical insurance company trying to apportion blame so it can wriggle out of paying up. Put your pitchforks away!
He was running about playing with another boy then tried climbing it. Whether he was planning to hug it once he had climbed high enough, who knows.
The original post stated the child was seen on CCTV hugging the statue but, you're right...who knows!
Parents should have been paying more attention to what their child was up too.
Gallery should have secured the statue better.
I still think the insurance company should pay up!
Anyway, who doesn't like a broken statue? All the best museums are full of them!
Maybe the mother could offer to fix it. It could even improve the statues appeal, some of the worlds best art has been collaborations.
Pablo Picasso and Gjon Mili - painting with light.
Andy Warhol and Jean-Michel Basquiat - Olympic Rings.
That child could’ve been nicked, you know
Are we talking having his collar felt by the rozzers... would have served him right, bloody little hooligan
Not nicked by rozzers, I meant nicked nicked! "I think the thieves would have have returned him quite quickly once he'd broken some of their other trinkets of ill gotten gain... bloody little hooligan! | |||
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"It would be interesting to get Donald Trump’s opinion on it "He'd tap that | |||
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"No there insured So if a child deliberately wrecked the paintwork on your car, it would be ok, because you were insured?...
The child didn't take a screwdriver to the statue, he was giving it a hug... quite sweet really! Unfortunately he knocked over.
Maybe the mother should have been paying more attention, maybe the gallery should have made the statue more secure.
If the child hadn't knocked the statue over a lot of people would have been cooing over the display of affection and praising the mother for having such a sweet child.
Typical insurance company trying to apportion blame so it can wriggle out of paying up. Put your pitchforks away!
He was running about playing with another boy then tried climbing it. Whether he was planning to hug it once he had climbed high enough, who knows.
The original post stated the child was seen on CCTV hugging the statue but, you're right...who knows!
Parents should have been paying more attention to what their child was up too.
Gallery should have secured the statue better.
I still think the insurance company should pay up!
Anyway, who doesn't like a broken statue? All the best museums are full of them!
Maybe the mother could offer to fix it. It could even improve the statues appeal, some of the worlds best art has been collaborations.
Pablo Picasso and Gjon Mili - painting with light.
Andy Warhol and Jean-Michel Basquiat - Olympic Rings.
That child could’ve been nicked, you know
Are we talking having his collar felt by the rozzers... would have served him right, bloody little hooligan
Not nicked by rozzers, I meant nicked nicked!
I think the thieves would have have returned him quite quickly once he'd broken some of their other trinkets of ill gotten gain... bloody little hooligan!"Can you stop saying hooligan to strengthen your point because your point is weak as a slag’s knees | |||
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"Can i just point out that the statue is a piece of shit and not worth anything remotely like $132,000" Not now it isn't | |||
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"Can i just point out that the statue is a piece of shit and not worth anything remotely like $132,000" Are you positive Tommy? | |||
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"Mind you when my nephew tipped an entire tub of Chanel No 5 after bath powder down the loo I thought his mother should have replaced it!!
How old was he?
I can't remember - very young, 6 or something like that? It was a special gift from my ex, one of those big expensive powder puff boxes and I adored it!
We were at my parents house one and I realized that it was a little too quiet. My niece's were doing jigsaws and watching telly and practicing their dance routines to take that when we left them to enjoy the sunshine and peace and quiet of the garden. When I went in to find out what the unnatural quiet was all about, they were in grandmas bedroom mixing all her expensive perfumes together
We decided to keep it as our little secret and grandma didn't seem to notice. We fessed up some year later and she pissed herself laughing "Oh lordy lol!! | |||
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"Can i just point out that the statue is a piece of shit and not worth anything remotely like $132,000 Are you positive Tommy? " I just want to know how they came up with that valuation because there's no way anyone bought it for that. It looks like the kind of monstrosity that a hobbyist spent a long time tinkering with and decided to multiply those hours by a pretend hourly rate in order to make himself feel like he hadn't wasted his time. Weather is nice today though. | |||
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"1. Parent is neglectful 2. Doesn’t matter whether the museum is insured or not, a piece of art has been destroyed. This is not the same as some precious bath powder or an electric window 3. If the Troy kid pulls a statue over on top of another kid and kills him, do people’s opinions change? " It's not a museum | |||
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"Can i just point out that the statue is a piece of shit and not worth anything remotely like $132,000 Are you positive Tommy? I just want to know how they came up with that valuation because there's no way anyone bought it for that. It looks like the kind of monstrosity that a hobbyist spent a long time tinkering with and decided to multiply those hours by a pretend hourly rate in order to make himself feel like he hadn't wasted his time. Weather is nice today though. " They probably had an expert value the art.. how did you come up with a valuation sitting in your sofa typing on your shattered screen android phone | |||
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"No there insured So if a child deliberately wrecked the paintwork on your car, it would be ok, because you were insured?...
The child didn't take a screwdriver to the statue, he was giving it a hug... quite sweet really! Unfortunately he knocked over.
Maybe the mother should have been paying more attention, maybe the gallery should have made the statue more secure.
If the child hadn't knocked the statue over a lot of people would have been cooing over the display of affection and praising the mother for having such a sweet child.
Typical insurance company trying to apportion blame so it can wriggle out of paying up. Put your pitchforks away!
He was running about playing with another boy then tried climbing it. Whether he was planning to hug it once he had climbed high enough, who knows.
The original post stated the child was seen on CCTV hugging the statue but, you're right...who knows!
Parents should have been paying more attention to what their child was up too.
Gallery should have secured the statue better.
I still think the insurance company should pay up!
Anyway, who doesn't like a broken statue? All the best museums are full of them!
Maybe the mother could offer to fix it. It could even improve the statues appeal, some of the worlds best art has been collaborations.
Pablo Picasso and Gjon Mili - painting with light.
Andy Warhol and Jean-Michel Basquiat - Olympic Rings.
That child could’ve been nicked, you know
Are we talking having his collar felt by the rozzers... would have served him right, bloody little hooligan
Not nicked by rozzers, I meant nicked nicked!
I think the thieves would have have returned him quite quickly once he'd broken some of their other trinkets of ill gotten gain... bloody little hooligan!
Can you stop saying hooligan to strengthen your point because your point is weak as a slag’s knees "Perhaps the statue had slags knees and that's why it fell over so easily! Going off subject a little...slags knees seems to be a common affliction affecting many footballers at the moment I have noticed! Sorry for over use of the "H" word. | |||
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"Can i just point out that the statue is a piece of shit and not worth anything remotely like $132,000 Are you positive Tommy? I just want to know how they came up with that valuation because there's no way anyone bought it for that. It looks like the kind of monstrosity that a hobbyist spent a long time tinkering with and decided to multiply those hours by a pretend hourly rate in order to make himself feel like he hadn't wasted his time. Weather is nice today though. They probably had an expert value the art.. how did you come up with a valuation sitting in your sofa typing on your shattered screen android phone "Nope, the $132,000 is an estimate from the 'artist' Bill Lyons. Clearly he's exaggerated the value for the insurance claim. He's not famous and he's one of those contemporary art wankers. | |||
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"Can i just point out that the statue is a piece of shit and not worth anything remotely like $132,000 Are you positive Tommy? I just want to know how they came up with that valuation because there's no way anyone bought it for that. It looks like the kind of monstrosity that a hobbyist spent a long time tinkering with and decided to multiply those hours by a pretend hourly rate in order to make himself feel like he hadn't wasted his time. Weather is nice today though. They probably had an expert value the art.. how did you come up with a valuation sitting in your sofa typing on your shattered screen android phone
Nope, the $132,000 is an estimate from the 'artist' Bill Lyons. Clearly he's exaggerated the value for the insurance claim. He's not famous and he's one of those contemporary art wankers. "So how much is it Banksy? | |||
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"Can i just point out that the statue is a piece of shit and not worth anything remotely like $132,000 Are you positive Tommy? I just want to know how they came up with that valuation because there's no way anyone bought it for that. It looks like the kind of monstrosity that a hobbyist spent a long time tinkering with and decided to multiply those hours by a pretend hourly rate in order to make himself feel like he hadn't wasted his time. Weather is nice today though. They probably had an expert value the art.. how did you come up with a valuation sitting in your sofa typing on your shattered screen android phone
Nope, the $132,000 is an estimate from the 'artist' Bill Lyons. Clearly he's exaggerated the value for the insurance claim. He's not famous and he's one of those contemporary art wankers.
So how much is it Banksy? "I don't think anyone actually buys that shit | |||
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"Can i just point out that the statue is a piece of shit and not worth anything remotely like $132,000 Are you positive Tommy? I just want to know how they came up with that valuation because there's no way anyone bought it for that. It looks like the kind of monstrosity that a hobbyist spent a long time tinkering with and decided to multiply those hours by a pretend hourly rate in order to make himself feel like he hadn't wasted his time. Weather is nice today though. They probably had an expert value the art.. how did you come up with a valuation sitting in your sofa typing on your shattered screen android phone
Nope, the $132,000 is an estimate from the 'artist' Bill Lyons. Clearly he's exaggerated the value for the insurance claim. He's not famous and he's one of those contemporary art wankers.
So how much is it Banksy?
I don't think anyone actually buys that shit "So no price? | |||
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"Can i just point out that the statue is a piece of shit and not worth anything remotely like $132,000 Are you positive Tommy? I just want to know how they came up with that valuation because there's no way anyone bought it for that. It looks like the kind of monstrosity that a hobbyist spent a long time tinkering with and decided to multiply those hours by a pretend hourly rate in order to make himself feel like he hadn't wasted his time. Weather is nice today though. They probably had an expert value the art.. how did you come up with a valuation sitting in your sofa typing on your shattered screen android phone
Nope, the $132,000 is an estimate from the 'artist' Bill Lyons. Clearly he's exaggerated the value for the insurance claim. He's not famous and he's one of those contemporary art wankers.
So how much is it Banksy?
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"Yes. She should also be birched for displaying such poor parenting skills. Her child should be placed into care because they are clearly not safe with such an horrendous mother. And they both should have life bans from visiting anything that is arty in any way. Or...... The arty place claims on their insurance and we leave the mother and child alone, because at the end of the day, everyone’s kid has broke something somewhere by doing something they shouldn’t have while mum/dad weren’t watching. Are you suggesting she's not in any way responsible? Because the child's dropped a cup at home it's OK to smash a work of art because "kids will be kids eh"
Yes. They’ll be insured.
Because it's insured it's OK and acceptable?
A couple of years ago, a small boy got crushed to death by a massive mirror in a shop in Bicester village. Nobody blamed the boy for fucking about, and nobody blamed the parents. Responsibility lies with the arty place to make sure it’s exhibits are safe and secure. So the parent wasn’t totally in control of their child, big deal! It’s not like she left them in an apartment and fucked off for dinner!!
Yes, kids are kids. They do stupid things, and parents deserve a break. At least she was trying to give them some culture and not sitting them in front of a PlayStation with a happy meal. "This bit "At least she was trying to give them some culture and not sitting them in front of a PlayStation with a happy meal." So much yes!!!!!! | |||
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"Can i just point out that the statue is a piece of shit and not worth anything remotely like $132,000 Are you positive Tommy? I just want to know how they came up with that valuation because there's no way anyone bought it for that. It looks like the kind of monstrosity that a hobbyist spent a long time tinkering with and decided to multiply those hours by a pretend hourly rate in order to make himself feel like he hadn't wasted his time. Weather is nice today though. They probably had an expert value the art.. how did you come up with a valuation sitting in your sofa typing on your shattered screen android phone
Nope, the $132,000 is an estimate from the 'artist' Bill Lyons. Clearly he's exaggerated the value for the insurance claim. He's not famous and he's one of those contemporary art wankers.
So how much is it Banksy?
I don't think anyone actually buys that shit
I definitely would ! Absolutely love Banksy "Banksy is sick! | |||
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"Can i just point out that the statue is a piece of shit and not worth anything remotely like $132,000 Are you positive Tommy? I just want to know how they came up with that valuation because there's no way anyone bought it for that. It looks like the kind of monstrosity that a hobbyist spent a long time tinkering with and decided to multiply those hours by a pretend hourly rate in order to make himself feel like he hadn't wasted his time. Weather is nice today though. They probably had an expert value the art.. how did you come up with a valuation sitting in your sofa typing on your shattered screen android phone
Nope, the $132,000 is an estimate from the 'artist' Bill Lyons. Clearly he's exaggerated the value for the insurance claim. He's not famous and he's one of those contemporary art wankers.
So how much is it Banksy?
I don't think anyone actually buys that shit
So no price? "If someone is willing to pay $132,000 then I'll conceed it's worth that, but is there any evidence this dickhead has ever sold a piece for more than $50,000? I couldn't find any and looking at his collection then i very much doubt it. We can bet on it if you like? | |||
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"Can i just point out that the statue is a piece of shit and not worth anything remotely like $132,000 Are you positive Tommy? I just want to know how they came up with that valuation because there's no way anyone bought it for that. It looks like the kind of monstrosity that a hobbyist spent a long time tinkering with and decided to multiply those hours by a pretend hourly rate in order to make himself feel like he hadn't wasted his time. Weather is nice today though. They probably had an expert value the art.. how did you come up with a valuation sitting in your sofa typing on your shattered screen android phone
Nope, the $132,000 is an estimate from the 'artist' Bill Lyons. Clearly he's exaggerated the value for the insurance claim. He's not famous and he's one of those contemporary art wankers.
So how much is it Banksy?
I don't think anyone actually buys that shit
I definitely would ! Absolutely love Banksy
Banksy is sick! "I have visited his Museum in Amsterdam and visited his hotel in Palestine (Bethlehem) aside having artistic skills I love the symbolism of his creation and how he keeps low profile a bit like Daft Punk | |||
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"Yes plain and simple. I think all parents should pay for their children and take responsibility if the child can't be prosecuted from criminal behaviour then the parents need to be made to pay No difference to dog fouling " Did I tell you that you look like the picture of a late person? | |||
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"Can i just point out that the statue is a piece of shit and not worth anything remotely like $132,000 Are you positive Tommy? I just want to know how they came up with that valuation because there's no way anyone bought it for that. It looks like the kind of monstrosity that a hobbyist spent a long time tinkering with and decided to multiply those hours by a pretend hourly rate in order to make himself feel like he hadn't wasted his time. Weather is nice today though. They probably had an expert value the art.. how did you come up with a valuation sitting in your sofa typing on your shattered screen android phone
Nope, the $132,000 is an estimate from the 'artist' Bill Lyons. Clearly he's exaggerated the value for the insurance claim. He's not famous and he's one of those contemporary art wankers.
So how much is it Banksy?
I don't think anyone actually buys that shit
So no price?
If someone is willing to pay $132,000 then I'll conceed it's worth that, but is there any evidence this dickhead has ever sold a piece for more than $50,000? I couldn't find any and looking at his collection then i very much doubt it. We can bet on it if you like?"Dickhead ? looks like he must have painted one of your house
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"Can i just point out that the statue is a piece of shit and not worth anything remotely like $132,000 Are you positive Tommy? I just want to know how they came up with that valuation because there's no way anyone bought it for that. It looks like the kind of monstrosity that a hobbyist spent a long time tinkering with and decided to multiply those hours by a pretend hourly rate in order to make himself feel like he hadn't wasted his time. Weather is nice today though. They probably had an expert value the art.. how did you come up with a valuation sitting in your sofa typing on your shattered screen android phone
Nope, the $132,000 is an estimate from the 'artist' Bill Lyons. Clearly he's exaggerated the value for the insurance claim. He's not famous and he's one of those contemporary art wankers.
So how much is it Banksy?
I don't think anyone actually buys that shit
I definitely would ! Absolutely love Banksy
Banksy is sick!
I have visited his Museum in Amsterdam and visited his hotel in Palestine (Bethlehem) aside having artistic skills I love the symbolism of his creation and how he keeps low profile a bit like Daft Punk and Bananaman "I really like his work.. he highlights the important issues of our world.. wish we will get to know him one day | |||
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"Can i just point out that the statue is a piece of shit and not worth anything remotely like $132,000 Are you positive Tommy? I just want to know how they came up with that valuation because there's no way anyone bought it for that. It looks like the kind of monstrosity that a hobbyist spent a long time tinkering with and decided to multiply those hours by a pretend hourly rate in order to make himself feel like he hadn't wasted his time. Weather is nice today though. They probably had an expert value the art.. how did you come up with a valuation sitting in your sofa typing on your shattered screen android phone
Nope, the $132,000 is an estimate from the 'artist' Bill Lyons. Clearly he's exaggerated the value for the insurance claim. He's not famous and he's one of those contemporary art wankers.
So how much is it Banksy?
I don't think anyone actually buys that shit
So no price?
If someone is willing to pay $132,000 then I'll conceed it's worth that, but is there any evidence this dickhead has ever sold a piece for more than $50,000? I couldn't find any and looking at his collection then i very much doubt it. We can bet on it if you like?
Dickhead ? looks like he must have painted one of your house
Are you an artist yourself ?
"If you want me to make you a statue like that and you'll pay me $132,000 for it, then yes I could do that | |||
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"Can i just point out that the statue is a piece of shit and not worth anything remotely like $132,000 Are you positive Tommy? I just want to know how they came up with that valuation because there's no way anyone bought it for that. It looks like the kind of monstrosity that a hobbyist spent a long time tinkering with and decided to multiply those hours by a pretend hourly rate in order to make himself feel like he hadn't wasted his time. Weather is nice today though. They probably had an expert value the art.. how did you come up with a valuation sitting in your sofa typing on your shattered screen android phone
Nope, the $132,000 is an estimate from the 'artist' Bill Lyons. Clearly he's exaggerated the value for the insurance claim. He's not famous and he's one of those contemporary art wankers.
So how much is it Banksy?
I don't think anyone actually buys that shit
So no price?
If someone is willing to pay $132,000 then I'll conceed it's worth that, but is there any evidence this dickhead has ever sold a piece for more than $50,000? I couldn't find any and looking at his collection then i very much doubt it. We can bet on it if you like?
Dickhead ? looks like he must have painted one of your house
Are you an artist yourself ?
If you want me to make you a statue like that and you'll pay me $132,000 for it, then yes I could do that"But have you ever created something that ppl talked abt around the world like the 'dickhead' of Banksy did ? | |||
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"Can i just point out that the statue is a piece of shit and not worth anything remotely like $132,000 Are you positive Tommy? I just want to know how they came up with that valuation because there's no way anyone bought it for that. It looks like the kind of monstrosity that a hobbyist spent a long time tinkering with and decided to multiply those hours by a pretend hourly rate in order to make himself feel like he hadn't wasted his time. Weather is nice today though. They probably had an expert value the art.. how did you come up with a valuation sitting in your sofa typing on your shattered screen android phone
Nope, the $132,000 is an estimate from the 'artist' Bill Lyons. Clearly he's exaggerated the value for the insurance claim. He's not famous and he's one of those contemporary art wankers.
So how much is it Banksy?
I don't think anyone actually buys that shit
So no price?
If someone is willing to pay $132,000 then I'll conceed it's worth that, but is there any evidence this dickhead has ever sold a piece for more than $50,000? I couldn't find any and looking at his collection then i very much doubt it. We can bet on it if you like?
Dickhead ? looks like he must have painted one of your house
Are you an artist yourself ?
If you want me to make you a statue like that and you'll pay me $132,000 for it, then yes I could do that"What sort of art do you do? | |||
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"Can i just point out that the statue is a piece of shit and not worth anything remotely like $132,000 Are you positive Tommy? I just want to know how they came up with that valuation because there's no way anyone bought it for that. It looks like the kind of monstrosity that a hobbyist spent a long time tinkering with and decided to multiply those hours by a pretend hourly rate in order to make himself feel like he hadn't wasted his time. Weather is nice today though. They probably had an expert value the art.. how did you come up with a valuation sitting in your sofa typing on your shattered screen android phone
Nope, the $132,000 is an estimate from the 'artist' Bill Lyons. Clearly he's exaggerated the value for the insurance claim. He's not famous and he's one of those contemporary art wankers.
So how much is it Banksy?
I don't think anyone actually buys that shit "Banksy - Vote to love, parody of Brexit vote leave campaign poster painted over a ukip plaquard and on display at the royal academy summer exhibition, £350,000...it will sell! | |||
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"Can i just point out that the statue is a piece of shit and not worth anything remotely like $132,000 Are you positive Tommy? I just want to know how they came up with that valuation because there's no way anyone bought it for that. It looks like the kind of monstrosity that a hobbyist spent a long time tinkering with and decided to multiply those hours by a pretend hourly rate in order to make himself feel like he hadn't wasted his time. Weather is nice today though. They probably had an expert value the art.. how did you come up with a valuation sitting in your sofa typing on your shattered screen android phone
Nope, the $132,000 is an estimate from the 'artist' Bill Lyons. Clearly he's exaggerated the value for the insurance claim. He's not famous and he's one of those contemporary art wankers.
So how much is it Banksy?
I don't think anyone actually buys that shit
Banksy - Vote to love, parody of Brexit vote leave campaign poster painted over a ukip plaquard and on display at the royal academy summer exhibition, £350,000...it will sell!"There you go | |||
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"Can i just point out that the statue is a piece of shit and not worth anything remotely like $132,000 Are you positive Tommy? I just want to know how they came up with that valuation because there's no way anyone bought it for that. It looks like the kind of monstrosity that a hobbyist spent a long time tinkering with and decided to multiply those hours by a pretend hourly rate in order to make himself feel like he hadn't wasted his time. Weather is nice today though. They probably had an expert value the art.. how did you come up with a valuation sitting in your sofa typing on your shattered screen android phone
Nope, the $132,000 is an estimate from the 'artist' Bill Lyons. Clearly he's exaggerated the value for the insurance claim. He's not famous and he's one of those contemporary art wankers.
So how much is it Banksy?
I don't think anyone actually buys that shit
So no price?
If someone is willing to pay $132,000 then I'll conceed it's worth that, but is there any evidence this dickhead has ever sold a piece for more than $50,000? I couldn't find any and looking at his collection then i very much doubt it. We can bet on it if you like?
Dickhead ? looks like he must have painted one of your house
Are you an artist yourself ?
If you want me to make you a statue like that and you'll pay me $132,000 for it, then yes I could do that
But have you ever created something that ppl talked abt around the world like the 'dickhead' of Banksy did ?"I don't know if you're a little simple minded, but we're talking about Bill Lyons, not Banksy. Bill Lyons is not talked about around the world, he doesn't even have a fecking wikipedia page. | |||
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"Can i just point out that the statue is a piece of shit and not worth anything remotely like $132,000 Are you positive Tommy? I just want to know how they came up with that valuation because there's no way anyone bought it for that. It looks like the kind of monstrosity that a hobbyist spent a long time tinkering with and decided to multiply those hours by a pretend hourly rate in order to make himself feel like he hadn't wasted his time. Weather is nice today though. They probably had an expert value the art.. how did you come up with a valuation sitting in your sofa typing on your shattered screen android phone
Nope, the $132,000 is an estimate from the 'artist' Bill Lyons. Clearly he's exaggerated the value for the insurance claim. He's not famous and he's one of those contemporary art wankers.
So how much is it Banksy?
I don't think anyone actually buys that shit
Banksy - Vote to love, parody of Brexit vote leave campaign poster painted over a ukip plaquard and on display at the royal academy summer exhibition, £350,000...it will sell!
There you go "I buy his copies just because I can’t afford the original.. but love is real | |||
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"Yes plain and simple. I think all parents should pay for their children and take responsibility if the child can't be prosecuted from criminal behaviour then the parents need to be made to pay No difference to dog fouling " Do you have children? | |||
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"Can i just point out that the statue is a piece of shit and not worth anything remotely like $132,000 Are you positive Tommy? I just want to know how they came up with that valuation because there's no way anyone bought it for that. It looks like the kind of monstrosity that a hobbyist spent a long time tinkering with and decided to multiply those hours by a pretend hourly rate in order to make himself feel like he hadn't wasted his time. Weather is nice today though. They probably had an expert value the art.. how did you come up with a valuation sitting in your sofa typing on your shattered screen android phone
Nope, the $132,000 is an estimate from the 'artist' Bill Lyons. Clearly he's exaggerated the value for the insurance claim. He's not famous and he's one of those contemporary art wankers.
So how much is it Banksy?
I don't think anyone actually buys that shit
So no price?
If someone is willing to pay $132,000 then I'll conceed it's worth that, but is there any evidence this dickhead has ever sold a piece for more than $50,000? I couldn't find any and looking at his collection then i very much doubt it. We can bet on it if you like?
Dickhead ? looks like he must have painted one of your house
Are you an artist yourself ?
If you want me to make you a statue like that and you'll pay me $132,000 for it, then yes I could do that
But have you ever created something that ppl talked abt around the world like the 'dickhead' of Banksy did ?
I don't know if you're a little simple minded, but we're talking about Bill Lyons, not Banksy. Bill Lyons is not talked about around the world, he doesn't even have a fecking wikipedia page. "Haha I must be little simple minded as I now realised my mistake haha my bad. | |||
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"Yes plain and simple. I think all parents should pay for their children and take responsibility if the child can't be prosecuted from criminal behaviour then the parents need to be made to pay No difference to dog fouling Do you have children?" Or a dog? | |||
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"Can i just point out that the statue is a piece of shit and not worth anything remotely like $132,000 Are you positive Tommy? I just want to know how they came up with that valuation because there's no way anyone bought it for that. It looks like the kind of monstrosity that a hobbyist spent a long time tinkering with and decided to multiply those hours by a pretend hourly rate in order to make himself feel like he hadn't wasted his time. Weather is nice today though. They probably had an expert value the art.. how did you come up with a valuation sitting in your sofa typing on your shattered screen android phone
Nope, the $132,000 is an estimate from the 'artist' Bill Lyons. Clearly he's exaggerated the value for the insurance claim. He's not famous and he's one of those contemporary art wankers.
So how much is it Banksy?
I don't think anyone actually buys that shit
So no price?
If someone is willing to pay $132,000 then I'll conceed it's worth that, but is there any evidence this dickhead has ever sold a piece for more than $50,000? I couldn't find any and looking at his collection then i very much doubt it. We can bet on it if you like?
Dickhead ? looks like he must have painted one of your house
Are you an artist yourself ?
If you want me to make you a statue like that and you'll pay me $132,000 for it, then yes I could do that
But have you ever created something that ppl talked abt around the world like the 'dickhead' of Banksy did ?
I don't know if you're a little simple minded, but we're talking about Bill Lyons, not Banksy. Bill Lyons is not talked about around the world, he doesn't even have a fecking wikipedia page.
Haha I must be little simple minded as I now realised my mistake haha my bad.
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"Can i just point out that the statue is a piece of shit and not worth anything remotely like $132,000 Are you positive Tommy? I just want to know how they came up with that valuation because there's no way anyone bought it for that. It looks like the kind of monstrosity that a hobbyist spent a long time tinkering with and decided to multiply those hours by a pretend hourly rate in order to make himself feel like he hadn't wasted his time. Weather is nice today though. They probably had an expert value the art.. how did you come up with a valuation sitting in your sofa typing on your shattered screen android phone
Nope, the $132,000 is an estimate from the 'artist' Bill Lyons. Clearly he's exaggerated the value for the insurance claim. He's not famous and he's one of those contemporary art wankers.
So how much is it Banksy?
I don't think anyone actually buys that shit
So no price?
If someone is willing to pay $132,000 then I'll conceed it's worth that, but is there any evidence this dickhead has ever sold a piece for more than $50,000? I couldn't find any and looking at his collection then i very much doubt it. We can bet on it if you like?
Dickhead ? looks like he must have painted one of your house
Are you an artist yourself ?
If you want me to make you a statue like that and you'll pay me $132,000 for it, then yes I could do that
But have you ever created something that ppl talked abt around the world like the 'dickhead' of Banksy did ?
I don't know if you're a little simple minded, but we're talking about Bill Lyons, not Banksy. Bill Lyons is not talked about around the world, he doesn't even have a fecking wikipedia page.
Haha I must be little simple minded as I now realised my mistake haha my bad.
"But he did manage to put an exhibition together and get people in there.. | |||
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"Can i just point out that the statue is a piece of shit and not worth anything remotely like $132,000 Are you positive Tommy? I just want to know how they came up with that valuation because there's no way anyone bought it for that. It looks like the kind of monstrosity that a hobbyist spent a long time tinkering with and decided to multiply those hours by a pretend hourly rate in order to make himself feel like he hadn't wasted his time. Weather is nice today though. They probably had an expert value the art.. how did you come up with a valuation sitting in your sofa typing on your shattered screen android phone
Nope, the $132,000 is an estimate from the 'artist' Bill Lyons. Clearly he's exaggerated the value for the insurance claim. He's not famous and he's one of those contemporary art wankers.
So how much is it Banksy?
I don't think anyone actually buys that shit
So no price?
If someone is willing to pay $132,000 then I'll conceed it's worth that, but is there any evidence this dickhead has ever sold a piece for more than $50,000? I couldn't find any and looking at his collection then i very much doubt it. We can bet on it if you like?
Dickhead ? looks like he must have painted one of your house
Are you an artist yourself ?
If you want me to make you a statue like that and you'll pay me $132,000 for it, then yes I could do that
But have you ever created something that ppl talked abt around the world like the 'dickhead' of Banksy did ?
I don't know if you're a little simple minded, but we're talking about Bill Lyons, not Banksy. Bill Lyons is not talked about around the world, he doesn't even have a fecking wikipedia page.
Haha I must be little simple minded as I now realised my mistake haha my bad.
But he did manage to put an exhibition together and get people in there.. "No, it was a wedding reception at a community center. Nobody was there to see his statue. Troy was the only one who noticed it. | |||
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"Can i just point out that the statue is a piece of shit and not worth anything remotely like $132,000 Are you positive Tommy? I just want to know how they came up with that valuation because there's no way anyone bought it for that. It looks like the kind of monstrosity that a hobbyist spent a long time tinkering with and decided to multiply those hours by a pretend hourly rate in order to make himself feel like he hadn't wasted his time. Weather is nice today though. They probably had an expert value the art.. how did you come up with a valuation sitting in your sofa typing on your shattered screen android phone
Nope, the $132,000 is an estimate from the 'artist' Bill Lyons. Clearly he's exaggerated the value for the insurance claim. He's not famous and he's one of those contemporary art wankers.
So how much is it Banksy?
I don't think anyone actually buys that shit
So no price?
If someone is willing to pay $132,000 then I'll conceed it's worth that, but is there any evidence this dickhead has ever sold a piece for more than $50,000? I couldn't find any and looking at his collection then i very much doubt it. We can bet on it if you like?
Dickhead ? looks like he must have painted one of your house
Are you an artist yourself ?
If you want me to make you a statue like that and you'll pay me $132,000 for it, then yes I could do that
But have you ever created something that ppl talked abt around the world like the 'dickhead' of Banksy did ?
I don't know if you're a little simple minded, but we're talking about Bill Lyons, not Banksy. Bill Lyons is not talked about around the world, he doesn't even have a fecking wikipedia page.
Haha I must be little simple minded as I now realised my mistake haha my bad.
But he did manage to put an exhibition together and get people in there..
No, it was a wedding reception at a community center. Nobody was there to see his statue. Troy was the only one who noticed it."What a waste of thread! | |||
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"Yes. She should also be birched for displaying such poor parenting skills. Her child should be placed into care because they are clearly not safe with such an horrendous mother. And they both should have life bans from visiting anything that is arty in any way. Or...... The arty place claims on their insurance and we leave the mother and child alone, because at the end of the day, everyone’s kid has broke something somewhere by doing something they shouldn’t have while mum/dad weren’t watching. " Exactly. Fucking hell the world is full of perfect parents. I wish I was one of them. V x | |||
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"Can i just point out that the statue is a piece of shit and not worth anything remotely like $132,000 Are you positive Tommy? I just want to know how they came up with that valuation because there's no way anyone bought it for that. It looks like the kind of monstrosity that a hobbyist spent a long time tinkering with and decided to multiply those hours by a pretend hourly rate in order to make himself feel like he hadn't wasted his time. Weather is nice today though. They probably had an expert value the art.. how did you come up with a valuation sitting in your sofa typing on your shattered screen android phone
Nope, the $132,000 is an estimate from the 'artist' Bill Lyons. Clearly he's exaggerated the value for the insurance claim. He's not famous and he's one of those contemporary art wankers.
So how much is it Banksy?
I don't think anyone actually buys that shit
So no price?
If someone is willing to pay $132,000 then I'll conceed it's worth that, but is there any evidence this dickhead has ever sold a piece for more than $50,000? I couldn't find any and looking at his collection then i very much doubt it. We can bet on it if you like?
Dickhead ? looks like he must have painted one of your house
Are you an artist yourself ?
If you want me to make you a statue like that and you'll pay me $132,000 for it, then yes I could do that
But have you ever created something that ppl talked abt around the world like the 'dickhead' of Banksy did ?
I don't know if you're a little simple minded, but we're talking about Bill Lyons, not Banksy. Bill Lyons is not talked about around the world, he doesn't even have a fecking wikipedia page.
Haha I must be little simple minded as I now realised my mistake haha my bad.
But he did manage to put an exhibition together and get people in there..
No, it was a wedding reception at a community center. Nobody was there to see his statue. Troy was the only one who noticed it."And thought "Oooo, climbing frame" | |||
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"I'm sorry but you don't sit on your arse while your 5 year old swans about an art gallery. They are 5 they are going to touch things and be inquisitive. Be should have been at arms reach at least x" I believe it was a community centre. | |||
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"Can i just point out that the statue is a piece of shit and not worth anything remotely like $132,000 Are you positive Tommy? I just want to know how they came up with that valuation because there's no way anyone bought it for that. It looks like the kind of monstrosity that a hobbyist spent a long time tinkering with and decided to multiply those hours by a pretend hourly rate in order to make himself feel like he hadn't wasted his time. Weather is nice today though. They probably had an expert value the art.. how did you come up with a valuation sitting in your sofa typing on your shattered screen android phone
Nope, the $132,000 is an estimate from the 'artist' Bill Lyons. Clearly he's exaggerated the value for the insurance claim. He's not famous and he's one of those contemporary art wankers.
So how much is it Banksy?
I don't think anyone actually buys that shit
Banksy - Vote to love, parody of Brexit vote leave campaign poster painted over a ukip plaquard and on display at the royal academy summer exhibition, £350,000...it will sell!"You mean the piece that he submitted to the Royal Academy under a pseudonym and had rejected until it was submitted again as a Banksy. Just love art snobbery. | |||
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"Can i just point out that the statue is a piece of shit and not worth anything remotely like $132,000 Are you positive Tommy? I just want to know how they came up with that valuation because there's no way anyone bought it for that. It looks like the kind of monstrosity that a hobbyist spent a long time tinkering with and decided to multiply those hours by a pretend hourly rate in order to make himself feel like he hadn't wasted his time. Weather is nice today though. They probably had an expert value the art.. how did you come up with a valuation sitting in your sofa typing on your shattered screen android phone
Nope, the $132,000 is an estimate from the 'artist' Bill Lyons. Clearly he's exaggerated the value for the insurance claim. He's not famous and he's one of those contemporary art wankers.
So how much is it Banksy?
I don't think anyone actually buys that shit
Banksy - Vote to love, parody of Brexit vote leave campaign poster painted over a ukip plaquard and on display at the royal academy summer exhibition, £350,000...it will sell!
You mean the piece that he submitted to the Royal Academy under a pseudonym and had rejected until it was submitted again as a Banksy. Just love art snobbery.
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"Nah he's a kid .hes not guilty and neither is his mama." Get this guy in our judicial system  | |||
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"No they shouldn’t have to pay, if they are going to have valuable art on flimsy stands and allow kids access then it’s pretty much set up to go wrong if you ask me. They are insured for such things and you can’t accuse a 5 year old of being negligent. " But you can sue his mum’s ass | |||
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"No they shouldn’t have to pay, if they are going to have valuable art on flimsy stands and allow kids access then it’s pretty much set up to go wrong if you ask me. They are insured for such things and you can’t accuse a 5 year old of being negligent. But you can sue his mum’s ass "In America maybe, wouldn’t happen over here. But in America the mother would sue them for allowing to fall on her son. | |||
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""A mother has defended her son and refuses to take responsibility over the destruction of a statue at an art gallery. Sarah Goodman was fined $132,000 (£100,277) after her son Troy knocked the Aphrodite di Kansas City off it’s pedestal. He is seen on CCTV hugging the statue while his mother sat and chatted with other adults, failing to stop him from touching the art. It then fell onto him, damaging the statue’s arms and head." . Should she have to pay? " I was in a very fancy ceramics shop in Sardinia. I jokingly said to the owner I was almost scared to move and how did he cope with tourists. He said if parents came in with children he made it quite clear, you break it you buy it...seems fair to me. | |||
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""A mother has defended her son and refuses to take responsibility over the destruction of a statue at an art gallery. Sarah Goodman was fined $132,000 (£100,277) after her son Troy knocked the Aphrodite di Kansas City off it’s pedestal. He is seen on CCTV hugging the statue while his mother sat and chatted with other adults, failing to stop him from touching the art. It then fell onto him, damaging the statue’s arms and head." . Should she have to pay? I was in a very fancy ceramics shop in Sardinia. I jokingly said to the owner I was almost scared to move and how did he cope with tourists. He said if parents came in with children he made it quite clear, you break it you buy it...seems fair to me. " I remember signs in shops like this; "lovely to look at lovely to hold, but if you should break it consider it sold" | |||
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"Yep she should and should also get to keep it." Can't see why she gets to keep the statue, she's responsible for the child that broke somebody else's asset and therefore is paying for the damage. If I was an irresponsible parent and my child damaged your car, would you allow me to keep the car once the damage has been paid for? probably not. | |||
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"Yep she should and should also get to keep it. Can't see why she gets to keep the statue, she's responsible for the child that broke somebody else's asset and therefore is paying for the damage. If I was an irresponsible parent and my child damaged your car, would you allow me to keep the car once the damage has been paid for? probably not." I like your logic. Chap a few doors up from me's got a Ferrari. Anyone got a kid I can borrow? | |||
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"Yep she should and should also get to keep it. Can't see why she gets to keep the statue, she's responsible for the child that broke somebody else's asset and therefore is paying for the damage. If I was an irresponsible parent and my child damaged your car, would you allow me to keep the car once the damage has been paid for? probably not." Sounds like they're trying to claim for the full value of the statue not just the repairs. If I damage your car and it costs £2,000 to repair, you can't hit me with a bill for the full value of the car. If the statue isn't repairable and they bill her the full value, in essence, what they are saying is, you break, you buy! That's why she gets to keep the statue in that situation. I'm sure it's the last thing she would want though! | |||
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"Well this took an unexpected turn...... "Anything can happen when we're a little simple minded | |||
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"I’m sorry, but in my job I install all kinds of shit and it’s all in public areas. I have to provide method statements and risk assessments for everything I do. I have to provide certification for everything including my competence. I am liable for everything I do and have to ensure it is safe and secure. The kid and his parents were enjoying a wedding reception. It’s the venues and exhibit installers responsibility to ensure the exhibit was safe. It didn’t get pushed over by an inebriated adult, it got hugged by a child. So it’s statue’s fault?
Exactly!!! It was Venus de fucking Milo’s fault!!!
If you kid goes and damages neighbour’s car.. who’s ass is going to pay? "Bit of a skewed analogy that though. There’s a big difference between deliberate vandalism and a young child hugging a statue. If the kid had been crushed to death everyone would be venting their spleen at whoever put the statue there, but beause the kid was unharmed the mother has been vilified and the kid demonised. | |||
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"I would guess the artist that made the statue will now be known all around the world . I mean if a thread started on a swinging site fills up , imagine what’s happening elsewhere ! So based on his worldwide publicity , he should accept that he’s a dick for allowing the community center to display it so haphazardly . It really wasn’t well supported . The kid should get a telling off and be made aware that climbing on other people’s belongings isn’t on . The parent should be fined , the insurance excess would be a good figure , and sent on a course which outlines how to be a responsible parent . I mean the bloody kid was only five and was running around the community centre for five minutes before she even knew where he was ! And the artist can laugh all the way to the bank now he is famous !" That statue is worth more to him broken, than before! | |||
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"I would guess the artist that made the statue will now be known all around the world . I mean if a thread started on a swinging site fills up , imagine what’s happening elsewhere ! So based on his worldwide publicity , he should accept that he’s a dick for allowing the community center to display it so haphazardly . It really wasn’t well supported . The kid should get a telling off and be made aware that climbing on other people’s belongings isn’t on . The parent should be fined , the insurance excess would be a good figure , and sent on a course which outlines how to be a responsible parent . I mean the bloody kid was only five and was running around the community centre for five minutes before she even knew where he was ! And the artist can laugh all the way to the bank now he is famous ! That statue is worth more to him broken, than before! " Yep , what a result for him ! | |||
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"I would guess the artist that made the statue will now be known all around the world . I mean if a thread started on a swinging site fills up , imagine what’s happening elsewhere ! So based on his worldwide publicity , he should accept that he’s a dick for allowing the community center to display it so haphazardly . It really wasn’t well supported . The kid should get a telling off and be made aware that climbing on other people’s belongings isn’t on . The parent should be fined , the insurance excess would be a good figure , and sent on a course which outlines how to be a responsible parent . I mean the bloody kid was only five and was running around the community centre for five minutes before she even knew where he was ! And the artist can laugh all the way to the bank now he is famous !" Sounds reasonable all round.... | |||
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"Yes. She should also be birched for displaying such poor parenting skills. Her child should be placed into care because they are clearly not safe with such an horrendous mother. And they both should have life bans from visiting anything that is arty in any way. Or...... The arty place claims on their insurance and we leave the mother and child alone, because at the end of the day, everyone’s kid has broke something somewhere by doing something they shouldn’t have while mum/dad weren’t watching. I like
Nooo! Sue the hell out of her! I like seeing blood
I just liked his post, especially the first bit...I have given no view of whether I think she should pay or not
I don’t care if she should pay or not! I just want a long court case that is an example to other pesky kids and lazy ass parents
They’d took their kid to an art exhibition. They can’t be that lazy. Health and safety in public access areas is far easier to get a win on than proving parental neglect.
I’m just mad a kids because the other day i have a lift to my friend and his kid and the kid kept on winding up and down the electric window and his dad said nothing! "Did you tell the kid to stop it? I've given a friend and her kids a lift before. The kids were pissing about and distracting me while their mother said nothing. I told the kids to either stop messing about or I'd stop the car and they could get out because they were making it dangerous for everyone. They stopped pissing about. | |||
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"Yes plain and simple. I think all parents should pay for their children and take responsibility if the child can't be prosecuted from criminal behaviour then the parents need to be made to pay No difference to dog fouling Did I tell you that you look like the picture of a late person? "What you on about Willis | |||
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"I say pay the kid. The sculpture was pants. "Definately not a banksy | |||
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"Was it really worth so much money? Can't they just make another one? "No, yes | |||
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"I say pay the kid. The sculpture was pants.
Definately not a banksy "Which loosely has reminded me I have to book my tickets for the Summer Exhibition at the RA, thanks | |||
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"Why take the child in the first place. The child should be old enough to know not to touch x" Because the child was invited | |||
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"Why take the child in the first place. The child should be old enough to know not to touch x" Why shouldn't the child be there? | |||
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"Why take the child in the first place. The child should be old enough to know not to touch x Why shouldn't the child be there? " Child needs to be old enough to appreciate the art and not to touch it. There are plenty of museums and galleries that are interactive so take them there instead x | |||
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