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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Should sanitary products be free? Why/ why not?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I don't have a problem paying for them, I happily pay for other prescriptions and other hygiene products, not sure why sanitary products should be any different.

Ginger

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By *ubiousOatcakeMan  over a year ago

Aberdeenshire

Should toilet paper be free? Soap? Food?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Yes. Period poverty is very real, and shouldn’t be happening.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

They FUCK you at the hospital! First they drug you, then they FUCK you! And when they're done FUCKING you, along comes the insurance company and FUCKS you some more! Ten dollars for a FUCKING aspirin...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Sanitary products should be free for all those who need them as afterall its a natural occurance and not a career choice.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I don't have a problem paying for them, I happily pay for other prescriptions and other hygiene products, not sure why sanitary products should be any different.

Ginger "

I think the issue is that some can’t afford them. Young women in particular are suffering.

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By *hickennchipsWoman  over a year ago

up above the streets and houses

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Not for most but they should be VAT free for all. They're a neccessity...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"They FUCK you at the hospital! First they drug you, then they FUCK you! And when they're done FUCKING you, along comes the insurance company and FUCKS you some more! Ten dollars for a FUCKING aspirin..."
don't forget, they fuck you at the drive thu

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Not for most but they should be VAT free for all. They're a neccessity..."

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By *oxy_minxWoman  over a year ago

Scotland - Aberdeen


"Not for most but they should be VAT free for all. They're a neccessity..."

Definitely should be Vat free, they are not a luxury item

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"They FUCK you at the hospital! First they drug you, then they FUCK you! And when they're done FUCKING you, along comes the insurance company and FUCKS you some more! Ten dollars for a FUCKING aspirin... don't forget, they fuck you at the drive thu"

Haha

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By *alandNitaCouple  over a year ago

Scunthorpe

I think that they should be available free in some cases, and that reusable products should be the main option available, such as cups.

I keep meaning to buy a couple to donate to my local food bank. Sanitary products tend to get forgotten.

Nita

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By *loswingersCouple  over a year ago

Gloucester

So we have an already underfunded nhs . We pretty much all agree that it needs more and more help , so who’s going to pay for the sanitary products if we make them free ?

Women on benefits should get them free though , same as prescriptions , so they do not suffer .

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I think it should be like condoms. There are free ones available for those who need that but those who can afford them should pay.

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By *obbytupperMan  over a year ago

Menston near Ilkley

My mate has a garage full of Tampax which were stock for dispense machines for pub toilets etc.

Each case has 200x4 and he only wants £10 per case!

No strings attached.

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By *oloandsaabWoman  over a year ago

Essex


"I think that they should be available free in some cases, and that reusable products should be the main option available, such as cups.

I keep meaning to buy a couple to donate to my local food bank. Sanitary products tend to get forgotten.

Nita

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I always opt for sanitary products and toiletries to the food bank

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I think if women can not buy their own sanitary products it’s a sad state of affairs

Same with school s breakfast clubs if you cannot give your kid breakfast really?

They are just a child minding service for parents to dump them and get to work ASAP to earn enough money for the two cars and holidays a year and new kitchen etc

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Not for most but they should be VAT free for all. They're a neccessity...

Definitely should be Vat free, they are not a luxury item "

This.

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

They should be free for those that can't afford them.

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By *abs..Woman  over a year ago

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"Not for most but they should be VAT free for all. They're a neccessity..."

Definitely shouldn’t be subject to VAT. Tesco’s stand the VAT cost on sanitary products now so the customer doesn’t pay it. The first supermarket in the UK to do so. That’s a step in the right direction

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

They are free at foodbanks, and through similar period poverty charitable schemes. I ensure we have free sanitary products in the toilets at work so clients don’t have to ask.

My heart broke the first time I had a woman visibly skirt around asking me something from shame and then ask if I had a tampon she could have as she was struggling with the toilet paper she had stuffed in her knickers, and was worried she was going to leak.

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By *abs..Woman  over a year ago

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"They are free at foodbanks, and through similar period poverty charitable schemes. I ensure we have free sanitary products in the toilets at work so clients don’t have to ask.

My heart broke the first time I had a woman visibly skirt around asking me something from shame and then ask if I had a tampon she could have as she was struggling with the toilet paper she had stuffed in her knickers, and was worried she was going to leak. "

That is truly heartbreaking

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By *ubiousOatcakeMan  over a year ago

Aberdeenshire


"I think if women can not buy their own sanitary products it’s a sad state of affairs

Same with school s breakfast clubs if you cannot give your kid breakfast really?

They are just a child minding service for parents to dump them and get to work ASAP to earn enough money for the two cars and holidays a year and new kitchen etc"

Sure thing.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"They are free at foodbanks, and through similar period poverty charitable schemes. I ensure we have free sanitary products in the toilets at work so clients don’t have to ask.

My heart broke the first time I had a woman visibly skirt around asking me something from shame and then ask if I had a tampon she could have as she was struggling with the toilet paper she had stuffed in her knickers, and was worried she was going to leak. "

They’re not completely free at all food banks yet. They’re still part of the voucher scheme. However, they’ve started removing them and making sure service users can access them without a voucher

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I think if women can not buy their own sanitary products it’s a sad state of affairs

Same with school s breakfast clubs if you cannot give your kid breakfast really?

They are just a child minding service for parents to dump them and get to work ASAP to earn enough money for the two cars and holidays a year and new kitchen etc"

You really have no idea...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I think they should be free for those who are on benefits

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"My mate has a garage full of Tampax which were stock for dispense machines for pub toilets etc.

Each case has 200x4 and he only wants £10 per case!

No strings attached. "

Does that make them seconds?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"They are free at foodbanks, and through similar period poverty charitable schemes. I ensure we have free sanitary products in the toilets at work so clients don’t have to ask.

My heart broke the first time I had a woman visibly skirt around asking me something from shame and then ask if I had a tampon she could have as she was struggling with the toilet paper she had stuffed in her knickers, and was worried she was going to leak.

They’re not completely free at all food banks yet. They’re still part of the voucher scheme. However, they’ve started removing them and making sure service users can access them without a voucher "

Nods. Our area has removed the voucher. But yes, that’s a fair point.

I wish they were free at supermarkets, chemists and GP surgeries etc.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Yes they should be free for some women and girls. But definitely vat free at least x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"They are free at foodbanks, and through similar period poverty charitable schemes. I ensure we have free sanitary products in the toilets at work so clients don’t have to ask.

My heart broke the first time I had a woman visibly skirt around asking me something from shame and then ask if I had a tampon she could have as she was struggling with the toilet paper she had stuffed in her knickers, and was worried she was going to leak.

They’re not completely free at all food banks yet. They’re still part of the voucher scheme. However, they’ve started removing them and making sure service users can access them without a voucher

Nods. Our area has removed the voucher. But yes, that’s a fair point.

I wish they were free at supermarkets, chemists and GP surgeries etc. "

Completely. Schools too, although I know teachers often have them for students.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

So if they were to be free, would they be branded ones or those thick mattress pads/ no frills ones?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"They are free at foodbanks, and through similar period poverty charitable schemes. I ensure we have free sanitary products in the toilets at work so clients don’t have to ask.

My heart broke the first time I had a woman visibly skirt around asking me something from shame and then ask if I had a tampon she could have as she was struggling with the toilet paper she had stuffed in her knickers, and was worried she was going to leak.

They’re not completely free at all food banks yet. They’re still part of the voucher scheme. However, they’ve started removing them and making sure service users can access them without a voucher

Nods. Our area has removed the voucher. But yes, that’s a fair point.

I wish they were free at supermarkets, chemists and GP surgeries etc.

Completely. Schools too, although I know teachers often have them for students. "

Yes, I hate the re-traumatising stigma of having to go somewhere *special* to get your handout. (And that’s not to say the foodbanks don’t try to be nice, the volunteers are wonderful etc. It’s just....you know...)

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
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East Sussex


"They are free at foodbanks, and through similar period poverty charitable schemes. I ensure we have free sanitary products in the toilets at work so clients don’t have to ask.

My heart broke the first time I had a woman visibly skirt around asking me something from shame and then ask if I had a tampon she could have as she was struggling with the toilet paper she had stuffed in her knickers, and was worried she was going to leak.

They’re not completely free at all food banks yet. They’re still part of the voucher scheme. However, they’ve started removing them and making sure service users can access them without a voucher

Nods. Our area has removed the voucher. But yes, that’s a fair point.

I wish they were free at supermarkets, chemists and GP surgeries etc.

Completely. Schools too, although I know teachers often have them for students.

Yes, I hate the re-traumatising stigma of having to go somewhere *special* to get your handout. (And that’s not to say the foodbanks don’t try to be nice, the volunteers are wonderful etc. It’s just....you know...)"

Yes I agree with that. Especially horrible for a young woman but humiliating for any woman.

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
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East Sussex


"So if they were to be free, would they be branded ones or those thick mattress pads/ no frills ones? "

I doubt they'd be top of the range. I wonder too how they would decide how many to give. Women have very varied and differing needs in this respect.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I don't have a problem paying for them, I happily pay for other prescriptions and other hygiene products, not sure why sanitary products should be any different.

Ginger "

Boom!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

They should be available for free for anyone who needs them. Period poverty is yet another thing that's likely only going to increase.

We live in scary times.

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By *ubiousOatcakeMan  over a year ago

Aberdeenshire


"Yes, I hate the re-traumatising stigma of having to go somewhere *special* to get your handout."

I wonder if benefits should be given out in special tokens. You could colour code them, blue ones are five tokens, brown ones are ten, purple ones are twenty, that kind of thing. Or the value could be stored on a plastic card. And, then, the government could just make sure that everyone was given enough tokens to get the food and hygiene products they need.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"They are free at foodbanks, and through similar period poverty charitable schemes. I ensure we have free sanitary products in the toilets at work so clients don’t have to ask.

My heart broke the first time I had a woman visibly skirt around asking me something from shame and then ask if I had a tampon she could have as she was struggling with the toilet paper she had stuffed in her knickers, and was worried she was going to leak. "

That’s so sad.

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By *inkyLondonpairCouple  over a year ago

London


"Yes, I hate the re-traumatising stigma of having to go somewhere *special* to get your handout.

I wonder if benefits should be given out in special tokens. You could colour code them, blue ones are five tokens, brown ones are ten, purple ones are twenty, that kind of thing. Or the value could be stored on a plastic card. And, then, the government could just make sure that everyone was given enough tokens to get the food and hygiene products they need."

Agreed, any kind of means tested hand out, whether it be tampons, food or anything else is necessarily stigmatising. The better solution is to pay benefits at a reasonable level.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yes, I hate the re-traumatising stigma of having to go somewhere *special* to get your handout.

I wonder if benefits should be given out in special tokens. You could colour code them, blue ones are five tokens, brown ones are ten, purple ones are twenty, that kind of thing. Or the value could be stored on a plastic card. And, then, the government could just make sure that everyone was given enough tokens to get the food and hygiene products they need.

Agreed, any kind of means tested hand out, whether it be tampons, food or anything else is necessarily stigmatising. The better solution is to pay benefits at a reasonable level. "

And lessons on how to budget and prioritise needs over wants.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yes, I hate the re-traumatising stigma of having to go somewhere *special* to get your handout.

I wonder if benefits should be given out in special tokens. You could colour code them, blue ones are five tokens, brown ones are ten, purple ones are twenty, that kind of thing. Or the value could be stored on a plastic card. And, then, the government could just make sure that everyone was given enough tokens to get the food and hygiene products they need.

Agreed, any kind of means tested hand out, whether it be tampons, food or anything else is necessarily stigmatising. The better solution is to pay benefits at a reasonable level.

And lessons on how to budget and prioritise needs over wants. "

Like not drinking or smoking?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yes, I hate the re-traumatising stigma of having to go somewhere *special* to get your handout.

I wonder if benefits should be given out in special tokens. You could colour code them, blue ones are five tokens, brown ones are ten, purple ones are twenty, that kind of thing. Or the value could be stored on a plastic card. And, then, the government could just make sure that everyone was given enough tokens to get the food and hygiene products they need."

People would learn the colour codes. A plastic card option could be easier, I guess. Its just all so ughh.

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By *ubiousOatcakeMan  over a year ago

Aberdeenshire


"Like not drinking or smoking?"

Yeah, fuck the poor, how dare they have anything they like? Brown rice and water all the way.

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By *ubiousOatcakeMan  over a year ago

Aberdeenshire


"People would learn the colour codes."

You wouldn’t, apparently.

(Look in your purse. x)

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yes, I hate the re-traumatising stigma of having to go somewhere *special* to get your handout.

I wonder if benefits should be given out in special tokens. You could colour code them, blue ones are five tokens, brown ones are ten, purple ones are twenty, that kind of thing. Or the value could be stored on a plastic card. And, then, the government could just make sure that everyone was given enough tokens to get the food and hygiene products they need.

Agreed, any kind of means tested hand out, whether it be tampons, food or anything else is necessarily stigmatising. The better solution is to pay benefits at a reasonable level.

And lessons on how to budget and prioritise needs over wants. "

The majority of my clients can budget better than me or anyone I know. And prioritising between heat or food, or such is not really an easy choice.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I think if women can not buy their own sanitary products it’s a sad state of affairs

Same with school s breakfast clubs if you cannot give your kid breakfast really?

They are just a child minding service for parents to dump them and get to work ASAP to earn enough money for the two cars and holidays a year and new kitchen etc"

Breakfast clubs at our schools charge £2 per day.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

They should be vat free but not totally free. Who would pay for them? Us men have to shave every day, should razors be free too. I used to buy tampons for the ex wife, they’re not expensive, especially if you buy own brand ones.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"People would learn the colour codes.

You wouldn’t, apparently.

(Look in your purse. x)"

I might be being stupid, I don’t get it...

Although not as stupid as not realising that I was Blanche.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"People would learn the colour codes.

You wouldn’t, apparently.

(Look in your purse. x)

I might be being stupid, I don’t get it...

Although not as stupid as not realising that I was Blanche. "

Okay. It was more stupid. Fuck.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yes, I hate the re-traumatising stigma of having to go somewhere *special* to get your handout.

I wonder if benefits should be given out in special tokens. You could colour code them, blue ones are five tokens, brown ones are ten, purple ones are twenty, that kind of thing. Or the value could be stored on a plastic card. And, then, the government could just make sure that everyone was given enough tokens to get the food and hygiene products they need.

Agreed, any kind of means tested hand out, whether it be tampons, food or anything else is necessarily stigmatising. The better solution is to pay benefits at a reasonable level.

And lessons on how to budget and prioritise needs over wants.

Like not drinking or smoking?"

When I was very poor I didn't drink or smoke; some days I ate only porridge, and wore flip flops into October.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yes, I hate the re-traumatising stigma of having to go somewhere *special* to get your handout.

I wonder if benefits should be given out in special tokens. You could colour code them, blue ones are five tokens, brown ones are ten, purple ones are twenty, that kind of thing. Or the value could be stored on a plastic card. And, then, the government could just make sure that everyone was given enough tokens to get the food and hygiene products they need.

Agreed, any kind of means tested hand out, whether it be tampons, food or anything else is necessarily stigmatising. The better solution is to pay benefits at a reasonable level.

And lessons on how to budget and prioritise needs over wants.

Like not drinking or smoking?

When I was very poor I didn't drink or smoke; some days I ate only porridge, and wore flip flops into October. "

Is this a Month Python sketch ?

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By *lackbird1000Woman  over a year ago

Birmingham


"Should sanitary products be free? Why/ why not?"

Honestly I don't think should be free ! The price is affordable ! And I always see young ladies smoking and drinking with no limits . If they can afford the habits ,they can buy the sanitary products .

In a third world country is a different issue .

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Like not drinking or smoking?

Yeah, fuck the poor, how dare they have anything they like? Brown rice and water all the way."

Guess you're trying inside the knickers of some socialist on here!

My point is if anybody chooses to spend their money on, let's face it luxuries, why should the state provide free necessities for them?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So we have an already underfunded nhs . We pretty much all agree that it needs more and more help , so who’s going to pay for the sanitary products if we make them free ?

Women on benefits should get them free though , same as prescriptions , so they do not suffer ."

People in benefits are better off than most of the working population, they already get free boilers, insulation, prescriptions, council tax and god knows what else. They don’t need any more incentive not to work.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Like not drinking or smoking?

Yeah, fuck the poor, how dare they have anything they like? Brown rice and water all the way."

If it were me and it was a choice between sanitary products or a pack of fags or topping my phone up or turning the electric off for a night I'd rather not be bleeding on my clothes. But that's just me

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Yes they should be free. As someone else has already mentioned period poverty is a thing, especially for young girls.

They aren’t hugely expensive I know, but when you are down to your last bit of money and need to buy sanitary products or buy food, it’s a hard choice. For some women, periods can be horrific and you can go through a lot of towels/tanpons over the course of a month. If they can’t be made free then the vat should be taken off.

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By *ubiousOatcakeMan  over a year ago

Aberdeenshire


"I might be being stupid, I don’t get it..."

Fivers are blue, tenners are brown, £20 notes are purple... I was just saying (in a contrived, obscure way) that it would be nice if we just made sure that people had enough money. The hopelessly naive Guardian-reader in me leaked out.

Also, how was I supposed to know? I don’t pay attention to your posts.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I recon quite a few of those that supposedly can't afford sanitary items can afford cigarettes/vape/alcohol and other similar what I would class as luxury items

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By *inkyLondonpairCouple  over a year ago

London


"Yes, I hate the re-traumatising stigma of having to go somewhere *special* to get your handout.

I wonder if benefits should be given out in special tokens. You could colour code them, blue ones are five tokens, brown ones are ten, purple ones are twenty, that kind of thing. Or the value could be stored on a plastic card. And, then, the government could just make sure that everyone was given enough tokens to get the food and hygiene products they need.

Agreed, any kind of means tested hand out, whether it be tampons, food or anything else is necessarily stigmatising. The better solution is to pay benefits at a reasonable level.

And lessons on how to budget and prioritise needs over wants.

Like not drinking or smoking?

When I was very poor I didn't drink or smoke; some days I ate only porridge, and wore flip flops into October. "

I lived in a shoe box int middle o' road....

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By *ubiousOatcakeMan  over a year ago

Aberdeenshire


"People in benefits are better off than most of the working population, they already get free boilers, insulation, prescriptions, council tax and god knows what else. They don’t need any more incentive not to work. "

The sad thing is, you’re to self-involved to ever have the first clue as to how desperately out of touch you are with the reality of the country you live in.

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By *ubiousOatcakeMan  over a year ago

Aberdeenshire


"Like not drinking or smoking?

Yeah, fuck the poor, how dare they have anything they like? Brown rice and water all the way.

If it were me and it was a choice between sanitary products or a pack of fags or topping my phone up or turning the electric off for a night I'd rather not be bleeding on my clothes. But that's just me"

And when you can’t even afford any of them?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So we have an already underfunded nhs . We pretty much all agree that it needs more and more help , so who’s going to pay for the sanitary products if we make them free ?

Women on benefits should get them free though , same as prescriptions , so they do not suffer .

People in benefits are better off than most of the working population, they already get free boilers, insulation, prescriptions, council tax and god knows what else. They don’t need any more incentive not to work. "

Mmmm, I work part time and get extra help from the government, not sure I’m better off though!

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By *inkyLondonpairCouple  over a year ago

London

There's nothing worse than than the sanctimony of people who are not poor telling the poor how they should spend their money.

See James Bloodworths latest book for an insight as to why if you have fuck all, a drink, a smoke or a fry up might be indispensable to you.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I might be being stupid, I don’t get it...

Fivers are blue, tenners are brown, £20 notes are purple... I was just saying (in a contrived, obscure way) that it would be nice if we just made sure that people had enough money. The hopelessly naive Guardian-reader in me leaked out.

Also, how was I supposed to know? I don’t pay attention to your posts."

I got it when I bothered to read your post properly. Sometimes you’re funny, it’s kinda cool.

And you lie like a cheap watch.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yes, I hate the re-traumatising stigma of having to go somewhere *special* to get your handout.

I wonder if benefits should be given out in special tokens. You could colour code them, blue ones are five tokens, brown ones are ten, purple ones are twenty, that kind of thing. Or the value could be stored on a plastic card. And, then, the government could just make sure that everyone was given enough tokens to get the food and hygiene products they need.

Agreed, any kind of means tested hand out, whether it be tampons, food or anything else is necessarily stigmatising. The better solution is to pay benefits at a reasonable level.

And lessons on how to budget and prioritise needs over wants.

Like not drinking or smoking?

When I was very poor I didn't drink or smoke; some days I ate only porridge, and wore flip flops into October.

I lived in a shoe box int middle o' road.... "

Luxury!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Like not drinking or smoking?

Yeah, fuck the poor, how dare they have anything they like? Brown rice and water all the way.

If it were me and it was a choice between sanitary products or a pack of fags or topping my phone up or turning the electric off for a night I'd rather not be bleeding on my clothes. But that's just me

And when you can’t even afford any of them?"

then I would sell some possessions

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So we have an already underfunded nhs . We pretty much all agree that it needs more and more help , so who’s going to pay for the sanitary products if we make them free ?

Women on benefits should get them free though , same as prescriptions , so they do not suffer .

People in benefits are better off than most of the working population, they already get free boilers, insulation, prescriptions, council tax and god knows what else. They don’t need any more incentive not to work. "

Wrong. So wrong. Oh dear. But you do you even care that you’re wrong? Probably not.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"People in benefits are better off than most of the working population, they already get free boilers, insulation, prescriptions, council tax and god knows what else. They don’t need any more incentive not to work.

The sad thing is, you’re to self-involved to ever have the first clue as to how desperately out of touch you are with the reality of the country you live in."

Bollocks I’m afraid, I see all kinds of people day in day out, on both ends of the scale and believe me, those on benefits do alright, every one of the houses you go in has got a 50” telly on the wall. I’m very much in touch thank you very much.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

In theory - yes. What's wrong with government made sanitary towels instead of expensive brands.

I should get free razer blades though if that's the case.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Like not drinking or smoking?

Yeah, fuck the poor, how dare they have anything they like? Brown rice and water all the way.

If it were me and it was a choice between sanitary products or a pack of fags or topping my phone up or turning the electric off for a night I'd rather not be bleeding on my clothes. But that's just me

And when you can’t even afford any of them? then I would sell some possessions"

My clients are homeless. Let me know what I need to instruct them to sell, would ya? There’s a dear.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So we have an already underfunded nhs . We pretty much all agree that it needs more and more help , so who’s going to pay for the sanitary products if we make them free ?

Women on benefits should get them free though , same as prescriptions , so they do not suffer .

People in benefits are better off than most of the working population, they already get free boilers, insulation, prescriptions, council tax and god knows what else. They don’t need any more incentive not to work.

Mmmm, I work part time and get extra help from the government, not sure I’m better off though! "

So if you chose to work full time in your job and you gave up your benefits would you be better off as you are now or the latter?

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By *inkyLondonpairCouple  over a year ago

London


"People in benefits are better off than most of the working population, they already get free boilers, insulation, prescriptions, council tax and god knows what else. They don’t need any more incentive not to work.

The sad thing is, you’re to self-involved to ever have the first clue as to how desperately out of touch you are with the reality of the country you live in.

Bollocks I’m afraid, I see all kinds of people day in day out, on both ends of the scale and believe me, those on benefits do alright, every one of the houses you go in has got a 50” telly on the wall. I’m very much in touch thank you very much. "

If that's the case, I presume you will be giving up your job to live that luxurious life...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So we have an already underfunded nhs . We pretty much all agree that it needs more and more help , so who’s going to pay for the sanitary products if we make them free ?

Women on benefits should get them free though , same as prescriptions , so they do not suffer .

People in benefits are better off than most of the working population, they already get free boilers, insulation, prescriptions, council tax and god knows what else. They don’t need any more incentive not to work. "

Yeah, cause free sanitary towels will seal the deal for them !

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By *abulously curiousCouple  over a year ago

manchester

I don't mind paying as it doesn't affect my budget however the charity I help has a real thing called period poverty. It's really sad that 1.80 can't be accounted for for ladies in need. So I think definitely. Like milk tokens sanitary goods should be available x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"In theory - yes. What's wrong with government made sanitary towels instead of expensive brands.

I should get free razer blades though if that's the case."

I’m all for the free razor blades, although I’d suggest they’re slightly less critical - beards tend to be more acceptable than bloodstained clothing.

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By *abulously curiousCouple  over a year ago

manchester


"My mate has a garage full of Tampax which were stock for dispense machines for pub toilets etc.

Each case has 200x4 and he only wants £10 per case!

No strings attached. "

my day is brighter and im stealing thus x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So we have an already underfunded nhs . We pretty much all agree that it needs more and more help , so who’s going to pay for the sanitary products if we make them free ?

Women on benefits should get them free though , same as prescriptions , so they do not suffer .

People in benefits are better off than most of the working population, they already get free boilers, insulation, prescriptions, council tax and god knows what else. They don’t need any more incentive not to work.

Wrong. So wrong. Oh dear. But you do you even care that you’re wrong? Probably not. "

I’m not wrong, unless they are drug users or alcoholics the people who milk the benefits system as a career do quite well for themselves. No rent to pay, no council tax, free repairs to their housing association homes, the list goes on.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Like not drinking or smoking?

Yeah, fuck the poor, how dare they have anything they like? Brown rice and water all the way.

If it were me and it was a choice between sanitary products or a pack of fags or topping my phone up or turning the electric off for a night I'd rather not be bleeding on my clothes. But that's just me

And when you can’t even afford any of them? then I would sell some possessions

My clients are homeless. Let me know what I need to instruct them to sell, would ya? There’s a dear. "

Are they in receipt of benefits? If so then use that, if they have no home or job or benefits then I can see a need then

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By *inkyLondonpairCouple  over a year ago

London


"In theory - yes. What's wrong with government made sanitary towels instead of expensive brands.

I should get free razer blades though if that's the case.

I’m all for the free razor blades, although I’d suggest they’re slightly less critical - beards tend to be more acceptable than bloodstained clothing. "

Like I say, I think giving free anything is regressive and stigmatic. Ensure everyone has a decent income.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I think if women can not buy their own sanitary products it’s a sad state of affairs

Same with school s breakfast clubs if you cannot give your kid breakfast really?

They are just a child minding service for parents to dump them and get to work ASAP to earn enough money for the two cars and holidays a year and new kitchen etc"

More like a necessity to try and keep a roof over mine and my child's head.

Are you a Daily Mail reader perchance!

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By *ubiousOatcakeMan  over a year ago

Aberdeenshire


"Bollocks I’m afraid, I see all kinds of people day in day out, on both ends of the scale and believe me, those on benefits do alright, every one of the houses you go in has got a 50” telly on the wall. I’m very much in touch thank you very much. "

“I’ve never been in the house of anyone who’s really poor, so I don’t believe they exist.” You’re utterly deluded, fella. You’ve got no idea how much you don’t know, and you just proved it. Well done.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yes, I hate the re-traumatising stigma of having to go somewhere *special* to get your handout.

I wonder if benefits should be given out in special tokens. You could colour code them, blue ones are five tokens, brown ones are ten, purple ones are twenty, that kind of thing. Or the value could be stored on a plastic card. And, then, the government could just make sure that everyone was given enough tokens to get the food and hygiene products they need.

Agreed, any kind of means tested hand out, whether it be tampons, food or anything else is necessarily stigmatising. The better solution is to pay benefits at a reasonable level.

And lessons on how to budget and prioritise needs over wants.

Like not drinking or smoking?

When I was very poor I didn't drink or smoke; some days I ate only porridge, and wore flip flops into October.

Is this a Month Python sketch ?"

No, it was my life at the time.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I recently discovered a single mum with 2 kids on benefits will and definitely do receive over £200 a week, full council tax and rent paid (providing their house isn't too big for them) dental, optician, school dinners and prescriptions all paid for! I work 45+ hrs per week and am fortunate to be on a half decent salary but I do know colleagues of mine work 30+ hours a week on an hourly rate and are lucky to have £100 left of their wages once they've paid for all these things that someone living on benefits gets paid for them ........ it's a very unfair system that people abuse

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So we have an already underfunded nhs . We pretty much all agree that it needs more and more help , so who’s going to pay for the sanitary products if we make them free ?

Women on benefits should get them free though , same as prescriptions , so they do not suffer .

People in benefits are better off than most of the working population, they already get free boilers, insulation, prescriptions, council tax and god knows what else. They don’t need any more incentive not to work.

Wrong. So wrong. Oh dear. But you do you even care that you’re wrong? Probably not.

I’m not wrong, unless they are drug users or alcoholics the people who milk the benefits system as a career do quite well for themselves. No rent to pay, no council tax, free repairs to their housing association homes, the list goes on. "

Not everyone on benefits is milking the system, a drug user or an alcoholic.

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By *ids_NaughtyCouple  over a year ago

West Midlands


"I think if women can not buy their own sanitary products it’s a sad state of affairs

Same with school s breakfast clubs if you cannot give your kid breakfast really?

They are just a child minding service for parents to dump them and get to work ASAP to earn enough money for the two cars and holidays a year and new kitchen etc"

You’re SO right! Maybe I should quit work, claim benefits and take my kids to school when the bell goes instead of working and dropping them off for breakfast club which enables me to work. Which pays for the roof over our head and not the kitchen that goes in it.

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By *abulously curiousCouple  over a year ago

manchester


"So we have an already underfunded nhs . We pretty much all agree that it needs more and more help , so who’s going to pay for the sanitary products if we make them free ?

Women on benefits should get them free though , same as prescriptions , so they do not suffer .

People in benefits are better off than most of the working population, they already get free boilers, insulation, prescriptions, council tax and god knows what else. They don’t need any more incentive not to work.

Wrong. So wrong. Oh dear. But you do you even care that you’re wrong? Probably not.

I’m not wrong, unless they are drug users or alcoholics the people who milk the benefits system as a career do quite well for themselves. No rent to pay, no council tax, free repairs to their housing association homes, the list goes on. "

please tell me how much u think a single person on benefits gets? U are what's wrong with our society thinking they have an easy ride

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"People in benefits are better off than most of the working population, they already get free boilers, insulation, prescriptions, council tax and god knows what else. They don’t need any more incentive not to work.

The sad thing is, you’re to self-involved to ever have the first clue as to how desperately out of touch you are with the reality of the country you live in.

Bollocks I’m afraid, I see all kinds of people day in day out, on both ends of the scale and believe me, those on benefits do alright, every one of the houses you go in has got a 50” telly on the wall. I’m very much in touch thank you very much.

If that's the case, I presume you will be giving up your job to live that luxurious life... "

No because I’ve got a bit of pride about myself, I’ve worked since the day I left school but many people see milking the system as a career.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So we have an already underfunded nhs . We pretty much all agree that it needs more and more help , so who’s going to pay for the sanitary products if we make them free ?

Women on benefits should get them free though , same as prescriptions , so they do not suffer .

People in benefits are better off than most of the working population, they already get free boilers, insulation, prescriptions, council tax and god knows what else. They don’t need any more incentive not to work.

Mmmm, I work part time and get extra help from the government, not sure I’m better off though!

So if you chose to work full time in your job and you gave up your benefits would you be better off as you are now or the latter? "

Having worked full time last year, I was no better off to be honest, working in a sector which is notoriously underpaid is heartbreaking. Even working part time, I still don’t claim everything I could because it means swapping on to universal credits and I’d rather not go through that struggle.

Going to full time work would mean having to pay out childcare on top of everything else, so for me at the moment part time suits me and my two boys.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So we have an already underfunded nhs . We pretty much all agree that it needs more and more help , so who’s going to pay for the sanitary products if we make them free ?

Women on benefits should get them free though , same as prescriptions , so they do not suffer .

People in benefits are better off than most of the working population, they already get free boilers, insulation, prescriptions, council tax and god knows what else. They don’t need any more incentive not to work.

Wrong. So wrong. Oh dear. But you do you even care that you’re wrong? Probably not.

I’m not wrong, unless they are drug users or alcoholics the people who milk the benefits system as a career do quite well for themselves. No rent to pay, no council tax, free repairs to their housing association homes, the list goes on.

Not everyone on benefits is milking the system, a drug user or an alcoholic. "

No they're not but most plead poverty and yet they go get false nails, hair salons, branded clothes and food etc

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So we have an already underfunded nhs . We pretty much all agree that it needs more and more help , so who’s going to pay for the sanitary products if we make them free ?

Women on benefits should get them free though , same as prescriptions , so they do not suffer .

People in benefits are better off than most of the working population, they already get free boilers, insulation, prescriptions, council tax and god knows what else. They don’t need any more incentive not to work.

Wrong. So wrong. Oh dear. But you do you even care that you’re wrong? Probably not.

I’m not wrong, unless they are drug users or alcoholics the people who milk the benefits system as a career do quite well for themselves. No rent to pay, no council tax, free repairs to their housing association homes, the list goes on.

Not everyone on benefits is milking the system, a drug user or an alcoholic. "

I didn’t say they were, I said the people that do, not all.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So we have an already underfunded nhs . We pretty much all agree that it needs more and more help , so who’s going to pay for the sanitary products if we make them free ?

Women on benefits should get them free though , same as prescriptions , so they do not suffer .

People in benefits are better off than most of the working population, they already get free boilers, insulation, prescriptions, council tax and god knows what else. They don’t need any more incentive not to work.

Wrong. So wrong. Oh dear. But you do you even care that you’re wrong? Probably not.

I’m not wrong, unless they are drug users or alcoholics the people who milk the benefits system as a career do quite well for themselves. No rent to pay, no council tax, free repairs to their housing association homes, the list goes on. "

You're flogging a dead horse, mate, just as blinkered as the people she claims are blinkered!

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By *inkyLondonpairCouple  over a year ago

London


"People in benefits are better off than most of the working population, they already get free boilers, insulation, prescriptions, council tax and god knows what else. They don’t need any more incentive not to work.

The sad thing is, you’re to self-involved to ever have the first clue as to how desperately out of touch you are with the reality of the country you live in.

Bollocks I’m afraid, I see all kinds of people day in day out, on both ends of the scale and believe me, those on benefits do alright, every one of the houses you go in has got a 50” telly on the wall. I’m very much in touch thank you very much.

If that's the case, I presume you will be giving up your job to live that luxurious life...

No because I’ve got a bit of pride about myself, I’ve worked since the day I left school but many people see milking the system as a career. "

Funny that...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I recently discovered a single mum with 2 kids on benefits will and definitely do receive over £200 a week, full council tax and rent paid (providing their house isn't too big for them) dental, optician, school dinners and prescriptions all paid for! I work 45+ hrs per week and am fortunate to be on a half decent salary but I do know colleagues of mine work 30+ hours a week on an hourly rate and are lucky to have £100 left of their wages once they've paid for all these things that someone living on benefits gets paid for them ........ it's a very unfair system that people abuse "

Hear, hear

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By *ubiousOatcakeMan  over a year ago

Aberdeenshire


"No they're not but most plead poverty and yet they go get false nails, hair salons, branded clothes and food etc "

‘Most’. Again, you don’t know what you’re talking about.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So we have an already underfunded nhs . We pretty much all agree that it needs more and more help , so who’s going to pay for the sanitary products if we make them free ?

Women on benefits should get them free though , same as prescriptions , so they do not suffer .

People in benefits are better off than most of the working population, they already get free boilers, insulation, prescriptions, council tax and god knows what else. They don’t need any more incentive not to work.

Mmmm, I work part time and get extra help from the government, not sure I’m better off though!

So if you chose to work full time in your job and you gave up your benefits would you be better off as you are now or the latter?

Having worked full time last year, I was no better off to be honest, working in a sector which is notoriously underpaid is heartbreaking. Even working part time, I still don’t claim everything I could because it means swapping on to universal credits and I’d rather not go through that struggle.

Going to full time work would mean having to pay out childcare on top of everything else, so for me at the moment part time suits me and my two boys. "

So you’re better off being part time and being topped up with benefits then, thank you. Case closed. I have no issue with that btw, it’s the people that don’t work and milk every penny out of the system that gets my goat. The amount of able bodied people driving brand new cars on motability winds me up, a lot are not deserving of it.

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By *arnsley guy100Man  over a year ago

Sheffield

I don't know much about tampax allthough I have seen one before and when I was about 15 I threw one in a river to see what would happen...

Should have seen size of it.. Wow .. I didn't know they did that!!!!

However on a more serious note just watch on the TVs advert by tena... Awareness of poverty and teenagers missing school as a result of not having the said item..Tena are giving one towel free for every full pack sold. Struck a nerve with me and made me think...

Should be a paid for item and not footed by the tax payer,we all need "stuff" right??

However,.. Teenagers have no means to money.. Some may be even embarrassed to talk to parents about it..

I think they should be free in schools definaley via a vending machine.

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By *abulously curiousCouple  over a year ago

manchester

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manchester

"So we have an already underfunded nhs . We pretty much all agree that it needs more and more help , so who’s going to pay for the sanitary products if we make them free ?

Women on benefits should get them free though , same as prescriptions , so they do not suffer .

People in benefits are better off than most of the working population, they already get free boilers, insulation, prescriptions, council tax and god knows what else. They don’t need any more incentive not to work.

Wrong. So wrong. Oh dear. But you do you even care that you’re wrong? Probably not.

I’m not wrong, unless they are drug users or alcoholics the people who milk the benefits system as a career do quite well for themselves. No rent to pay, no council tax, free repairs to their housing association homes, the list goes on. "

please tell me how much u think a single person on benefits gets? U are what's wrong with our society thinking they have an easy ride

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"No they're not but most plead poverty and yet they go get false nails, hair salons, branded clothes and food etc

‘Most’. Again, you don’t know what you’re talking about."

Neither do you

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Like not drinking or smoking?

Yeah, fuck the poor, how dare they have anything they like? Brown rice and water all the way.

If it were me and it was a choice between sanitary products or a pack of fags or topping my phone up or turning the electric off for a night I'd rather not be bleeding on my clothes. But that's just me

And when you can’t even afford any of them? then I would sell some possessions

My clients are homeless. Let me know what I need to instruct them to sell, would ya? There’s a dear.

Are they in receipt of benefits? If so then use that, if they have no home or job or benefits then I can see a need then"

Actually not all of them are. No. Many no recourse. Some do have benefits but it’s a flawed system and even food costs more when you’re on the streets - nowhere to store and keep food and processed readymade food is more expensive than being able to batch cook your own, when you’re on the streets actually foodbanks aren’t really useful as you’re given three days of tinned or store cupboard foods to take where? And then if you’re lucky enough to get to the top of a nightshelter waiting list, you have to be able to travel before curfew to the rotating halls, different each night to keep your space, and your clothing/shoes wear out quickly when you don’t have a change of ability to wash them, and let’s remember you have to get computer access regularly to be able to input all the online job applications you need to do (despite it being the worst way to job search for you) in order to maintain your benefits in the first place - so it’s all about trying to maintain the status quo rather than helping you move forward. And then it’s your period.

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By *ubiousOatcakeMan  over a year ago

Aberdeenshire


"Neither do you"

Except that, pretty much every single day, I work with people you don’t believe exist, seeing things you will never understand, either because you lack basic human empathy, or believe the things you read, or are too ignorant to accept.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So we have an already underfunded nhs . We pretty much all agree that it needs more and more help , so who’s going to pay for the sanitary products if we make them free ?

Women on benefits should get them free though , same as prescriptions , so they do not suffer .

People in benefits are better off than most of the working population, they already get free boilers, insulation, prescriptions, council tax and god knows what else. They don’t need any more incentive not to work. "

It always makes me laugh when people write such ill informed comments like this. I can assure you that getting £75 per week and paying council tax, which isn’t free, by the way and receiving a housing benefit, which sometimes doesn’t cover their rent. They are categorically not better off.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So we have an already underfunded nhs . We pretty much all agree that it needs more and more help , so who’s going to pay for the sanitary products if we make them free ?

Women on benefits should get them free though , same as prescriptions , so they do not suffer .

People in benefits are better off than most of the working population, they already get free boilers, insulation, prescriptions, council tax and god knows what else. They don’t need any more incentive not to work.

Wrong. So wrong. Oh dear. But you do you even care that you’re wrong? Probably not.

I’m not wrong, unless they are drug users or alcoholics the people who milk the benefits system as a career do quite well for themselves. No rent to pay, no council tax, free repairs to their housing association homes, the list goes on. please tell me how much u think a single person on benefits gets? U are what's wrong with our society thinking they have an easy ride"

Perhaps those single people on benefits could go out and get a bloody job. Some see it as a very alien idea and wouldn’t dream of it.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"No they're not but most plead poverty and yet they go get false nails, hair salons, branded clothes and food etc

‘Most’. Again, you don’t know what you’re talking about."

I watch them everyday sitting in the pub drinking, eating, smoking and vaping whilst their kids are at school and I'm running around after them! Picking up their benefits bill every month when the tax man hits me

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By *abulously curiousCouple  over a year ago

manchester

Ok free rent and council tax...

Here goes £57 pw is what they get. Now u work it out.

Gas

Electric

Food

Travel

TV

Water

I see no room for luxury here. People need to get off that "I pay tax" high horse. Seriously. Social media makes people believe anything

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So we have an already underfunded nhs . We pretty much all agree that it needs more and more help , so who’s going to pay for the sanitary products if we make them free ?

Women on benefits should get them free though , same as prescriptions , so they do not suffer .

People in benefits are better off than most of the working population,they already get free boilers, insulation, prescriptions, council tax and god knows what else. They don’t need any more incentive not to work.

Wrong. So wrong. Oh dear. But you do you even care that you’re wrong? Probably not.

I’m not wrong, unless they are drug users or alcoholics the people who milk the benefits system as a career do quite well for themselves. No rent to pay, no council tax, free repairs to their housing association homes, the list goes on.

Not everyone on benefits is milking the system, a drug user or an alcoholic.

I didn’t say they were, I said the people that do, not all. "

Only later on. Your opening post didn’t clarify that. I accept now that you are rescinding that.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So we have an already underfunded nhs . We pretty much all agree that it needs more and more help , so who’s going to pay for the sanitary products if we make them free ?

Women on benefits should get them free though , same as prescriptions , so they do not suffer .

People in benefits are better off than most of the working population, they already get free boilers, insulation, prescriptions, council tax and god knows what else. They don’t need any more incentive not to work.

Wrong. So wrong. Oh dear. But you do you even care that you’re wrong? Probably not.

I’m not wrong, unless they are drug users or alcoholics the people who milk the benefits system as a career do quite well for themselves. No rent to pay, no council tax, free repairs to their housing association homes, the list goes on. please tell me how much u think a single person on benefits gets? U are what's wrong with our society thinking they have an easy ride

Perhaps those single people on benefits could go out and get a bloody job. Some see it as a very alien idea and wouldn’t dream of it. "

Stop reading The Sun and educate yourself properly.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Neither do you

Except that, pretty much every single day, I work with people you don’t believe exist, seeing things you will never understand, either because you lack basic human empathy, or believe the things you read, or are too ignorant to accept."

I guarantee you I see far worse than you on a daily basis, don’t presume to know anything about me when you don’t know me, you don’t know what I do and you don’t know the things I see. I have seen things that you will only see in horror films mate, I assure you.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Poverty is a real thing and period poverty is part of that. I can't imagine the indignity some women suffer by virtue of their gender. Many women in the poverty trap will forego them in order to feed their children. We live in a supposedly civilised society. You can have very little but maintaining dignity in the face of it should be the mark of the society that cares.

In that respect, of course they should be free. The Scottish government is already taking steps towards this. I don't buy the 'who pays for it' argument. It's bullshit. We can afford it.

I didn't know till now they were VAT rated. That's a joke. Sisters, you have my solidarity on this. Basic needs should not be taxed.

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By *abulously curiousCouple  over a year ago

manchester


"So we have an already underfunded nhs . We pretty much all agree that it needs more and more help , so who’s going to pay for the sanitary products if we make them free ?

Women on benefits should get them free though , same as prescriptions , so they do not suffer .

People in benefits are better off than most of the working population, they already get free boilers, insulation, prescriptions, council tax and god knows what else. They don’t need any more incentive not to work.

Wrong. So wrong. Oh dear. But you do you even care that you’re wrong? Probably not.

I’m not wrong, unless they are drug users or alcoholics the people who milk the benefits system as a career do quite well for themselves. No rent to pay, no council tax, free repairs to their housing association homes, the list goes on. please tell me how much u think a single person on benefits gets? U are what's wrong with our society thinking they have an easy ride

Perhaps those single people on benefits could go out and get a bloody job. Some see it as a very alien idea and wouldn’t dream of it. "

maybe some but don't be deluded that they are living it up. I live on a council estate of 40,000 and no jobs available. People don't want to be on benefits it's just a snobbery belief

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"No they're not but most plead poverty and yet they go get false nails, hair salons, branded clothes and food etc

‘Most’. Again, you don’t know what you’re talking about.

I watch them everyday sitting in the pub drinking, eating, smoking and vaping whilst their kids are at school and I'm running around after them! Picking up their benefits bill every month when the tax man hits me "

***after them I meant running round after the parents in the pub not the kids I don't work in a school thank god! I couldn't imagine having to educate the little brats in work ethic

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Like not drinking or smoking?

Yeah, fuck the poor, how dare they have anything they like? Brown rice and water all the way.

If it were me and it was a choice between sanitary products or a pack of fags or topping my phone up or turning the electric off for a night I'd rather not be bleeding on my clothes. But that's just me

And when you can’t even afford any of them? then I would sell some possessions

My clients are homeless. Let me know what I need to instruct them to sell, would ya? There’s a dear.

Are they in receipt of benefits? If so then use that, if they have no home or job or benefits then I can see a need then"

Do you realise that many of those in receipt of benefits can’t afford to eat. Many have sold their possessions. Sanitary protection or food for their children. What would you choose?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So we have an already underfunded nhs . We pretty much all agree that it needs more and more help , so who’s going to pay for the sanitary products if we make them free ?

Women on benefits should get them free though , same as prescriptions , so they do not suffer .

People in benefits are better off than most of the working population, they already get free boilers, insulation, prescriptions, council tax and god knows what else. They don’t need any more incentive not to work.

Wrong. So wrong. Oh dear. But you do you even care that you’re wrong? Probably not.

I’m not wrong, unless they are drug users or alcoholics the people who milk the benefits system as a career do quite well for themselves. No rent to pay, no council tax, free repairs to their housing association homes, the list goes on. please tell me how much u think a single person on benefits gets? U are what's wrong with our society thinking they have an easy ride

Perhaps those single people on benefits could go out and get a bloody job. Some see it as a very alien idea and wouldn’t dream of it.

Stop reading The Sun and educate yourself properly. "

The sun is banned where I’m from, thanks for the advice tho. I’m well versed on the subject thanks.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Actually not all of them are. No. Many no recourse. Some do have benefits but it’s a flawed system and even food costs more when you’re on the streets - nowhere to store and keep food and processed readymade food is more expensive than being able to batch cook your own, when you’re on the streets actually foodbanks aren’t really useful as you’re given three days of tinned or store cupboard foods to take where? And then if you’re lucky enough to get to the top of a nightshelter waiting list, you have to be able to travel before curfew to the rotating halls, different each night to keep your space, and your clothing/shoes wear out quickly when you don’t have a change of ability to wash them, and let’s remember you have to get computer access regularly to be able to input all the online job applications you need to do (despite it being the worst way to job search for you) in order to maintain your benefits in the first place - so it’s all about trying to maintain the status quo rather than helping you move forward. And then it’s your period. "

Ok I understand that, then I can see the need there. Thank you for explaining. But I still don't think they should be completely free, or free for those who recieve benefits. There are certain cases then, like you explain, that have a dire need, but not for all.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Neither do you

Except that, pretty much every single day, I work with people you don’t believe exist, seeing things you will never understand, either because you lack basic human empathy, or believe the things you read, or are too ignorant to accept.

I guarantee you I see far worse than you on a daily basis, don’t presume to know anything about me when you don’t know me, you don’t know what I do and you don’t know the things I see. I have seen things that you will only see in horror films mate, I assure you. "

So you don’t know anything about them, but you can guarantee you see far worse? How does that work?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So we have an already underfunded nhs . We pretty much all agree that it needs more and more help , so who’s going to pay for the sanitary products if we make them free ?

Women on benefits should get them free though , same as prescriptions , so they do not suffer .

People in benefits are better off than most of the working population, they already get free boilers, insulation, prescriptions, council tax and god knows what else. They don’t need any more incentive not to work.

Wrong. So wrong. Oh dear. But you do you even care that you’re wrong? Probably not.

I’m not wrong, unless they are drug users or alcoholics the people who milk the benefits system as a career do quite well for themselves. No rent to pay, no council tax, free repairs to their housing association homes, the list goes on. please tell me how much u think a single person on benefits gets? U are what's wrong with our society thinking they have an easy ride

Perhaps those single people on benefits could go out and get a bloody job. Some see it as a very alien idea and wouldn’t dream of it.

Stop reading The Sun and educate yourself properly.

The sun is banned where I’m from, thanks for the advice tho. I’m well versed on the subject thanks."

Ok, but you’re making sweeping generalisations.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Ok free rent and council tax...

Here goes £57 pw is what they get. Now u work it out.

Gas

Electric

Food

Travel

TV

Water

I see no room for luxury here. People need to get off that "I pay tax" high horse. Seriously. Social media makes people believe anything "

Benefits

£73 per week per adult

£21 1st child in child benefit

£13 every child after in child benefit

£140 per week for 2 children child tax cred

Rent paid

Council tax paid

Dental

Optician

Prescription

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So we have an already underfunded nhs . We pretty much all agree that it needs more and more help , so who’s going to pay for the sanitary products if we make them free ?

Women on benefits should get them free though , same as prescriptions , so they do not suffer .

People in benefits are better off than most of the working population, they already get free boilers, insulation, prescriptions, council tax and god knows what else. They don’t need any more incentive not to work.

Mmmm, I work part time and get extra help from the government, not sure I’m better off though!

So if you chose to work full time in your job and you gave up your benefits would you be better off as you are now or the latter?

Having worked full time last year, I was no better off to be honest, working in a sector which is notoriously underpaid is heartbreaking. Even working part time, I still don’t claim everything I could because it means swapping on to universal credits and I’d rather not go through that struggle.

Going to full time work would mean having to pay out childcare on top of everything else, so for me at the moment part time suits me and my two boys.

So you’re better off being part time and being topped up with benefits then, thank you. Case closed. I have no issue with that btw, it’s the people that don’t work and milk every penny out of the system that gets my goat. The amount of able bodied people driving brand new cars on motability winds me up, a lot are not deserving of it."

I’d love to know how they do it! I’m not entitled to council tax help, I privately rent. Those two things alone are more than I earn a month!

It annoys me too, I work hard, I don’t buy luxuries (well maybe too much chocolate!) my house is full of furniture that has been given to me by family or brought second hand. I don’t have sky etc. Even with extra money, I still struggle every month because contrary to popular belief it’s still not a huge amount of money, well not for me! I’ve had months where I’ve had to sell anything I can so that I can food shop.

I had a friend who was using food banks but has just booked her second holiday in a year to Florida, now that fucks me off! That isn’t right at all. There are people out there who need that help but can’t access it because others take the piss.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Ok free rent and council tax...

Here goes £57 pw is what they get. Now u work it out.

Gas

Electric

Food

Travel

TV

Water

I see no room for luxury here. People need to get off that "I pay tax" high horse. Seriously. Social media makes people believe anything

Benefits

£73 per week per adult

£21 1st child in child benefit

£13 every child after in child benefit

£140 per week for 2 children child tax cred

Rent paid

Council tax paid

Dental

Optician

Prescription

"

I don’t get my rent paid, or my council tax. Yes I get free prescriptions etc, because I earn a low wage.

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By *mumaWoman  over a year ago

Livingston


"People in benefits are better off than most of the working population, they already get free boilers, insulation, prescriptions, council tax and god knows what else. They don’t need any more incentive not to work.

The sad thing is, you’re to self-involved to ever have the first clue as to how desperately out of touch you are with the reality of the country you live in.

Bollocks I’m afraid, I see all kinds of people day in day out, on both ends of the scale and believe me, those on benefits do alright, every one of the houses you go in has got a 50” telly on the wall. I’m very much in touch thank you very much.

If that's the case, I presume you will be giving up your job to live that luxurious life...

No because I’ve got a bit of pride about myself, I’ve worked since the day I left school but many people see milking the system as a career. "

worked since I was 14 years old, until 4 years ago when I was diagnosed with a rare form of MS, I have digestive and spinal problems, had 4 facial strokes and also pretty much lost the use of my right arm.... I’m now in a wheelchair and pretty much housebound as My family live over an hour away... yes, I get benefits bug I sure as hell ain’t milking the system. I would give anything to be able to go back to work, but some days I can barely even get out of bed. I don’t drive and can’t use public transport, therefore I have to pay for taxis to get about...

Come live a month in my life and see how “easy” it is to live on benefits!!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Neither do you

Except that, pretty much every single day, I work with people you don’t believe exist, seeing things you will never understand, either because you lack basic human empathy, or believe the things you read, or are too ignorant to accept.

I guarantee you I see far worse than you on a daily basis, don’t presume to know anything about me when you don’t know me, you don’t know what I do and you don’t know the things I see. I have seen things that you will only see in horror films mate, I assure you.

So you don’t know anything about them, but you can guarantee you see far worse? How does that work? "

Because I see and deal with the worst things you could possibly imagine, there just arn’t any worse things to see so I am confident in my guarantee. At best he could match what I see but that’s it.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Do you realise that many of those in receipt of benefits can’t afford to eat. Many have sold their possessions. Sanitary protection or food for their children. What would you choose? "

I'd get more basic food and get the cheapest pads too. If I had a poor friend I'd try asking if they wanted to go halves on a pack too. There's ways around things sometimes.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"People in benefits are better off than most of the working population, they already get free boilers, insulation, prescriptions, council tax and god knows what else. They don’t need any more incentive not to work.

The sad thing is, you’re to self-involved to ever have the first clue as to how desperately out of touch you are with the reality of the country you live in.

Bollocks I’m afraid, I see all kinds of people day in day out, on both ends of the scale and believe me, those on benefits do alright, every one of the houses you go in has got a 50” telly on the wall. I’m very much in touch thank you very much.

If that's the case, I presume you will be giving up your job to live that luxurious life...

No because I’ve got a bit of pride about myself, I’ve worked since the day I left school but many people see milking the system as a career. worked since I was 14 years old, until 4 years ago when I was diagnosed with a rare form of MS, I have digestive and spinal problems, had 4 facial strokes and also pretty much lost the use of my right arm.... I’m now in a wheelchair and pretty much housebound as My family live over an hour away... yes, I get benefits bug I sure as hell ain’t milking the system. I would give anything to be able to go back to work, but some days I can barely even get out of bed. I don’t drive and can’t use public transport, therefore I have to pay for taxis to get about...

Come live a month in my life and see how “easy” it is to live on benefits!!! "

I would never say somebody in your position was milking the system. You’re twisting my words. Benefits are there for the like of you who need it. There are plenty of people that do milk it tho, end of story.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Neither do you

Except that, pretty much every single day, I work with people you don’t believe exist, seeing things you will never understand, either because you lack basic human empathy, or believe the things you read, or are too ignorant to accept.

I guarantee you I see far worse than you on a daily basis, don’t presume to know anything about me when you don’t know me, you don’t know what I do and you don’t know the things I see. I have seen things that you will only see in horror films mate, I assure you. "

Don’t presume, he says, whilst presuming himself.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Neither do you

Except that, pretty much every single day, I work with people you don’t believe exist, seeing things you will never understand, either because you lack basic human empathy, or believe the things you read, or are too ignorant to accept.

I guarantee you I see far worse than you on a daily basis, don’t presume to know anything about me when you don’t know me, you don’t know what I do and you don’t know the things I see. I have seen things that you will only see in horror films mate, I assure you.

So you don’t know anything about them, but you can guarantee you see far worse? How does that work?

Because I see and deal with the worst things you could possibly imagine, there just arn’t any worse things to see so I am confident in my guarantee. At best he could match what I see but that’s it. "

You’re arguing with people who work within the sector. I’m happy to hear a real, factual back up for your theory that most people are better off on benefits.

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By *ubiousOatcakeMan  over a year ago

Aberdeenshire


"Perhaps those single people on benefits could go out and get a bloody job. Some see it as a very alien idea and wouldn’t dream of it. "

There are so many people applying for so few jobs, companies are no longer even acknowledging receipt of applications. But, yeah, anyone who wants a job can just get one.

.


"I watch them everyday sitting in the pub drinking, eating, smoking and vaping whilst their kids are at school and I'm running around after them! Picking up their benefits bill every month when the tax man hits me "

Oh, well, in that case I’ll take the handful of people you see in the pub and assume it’s the case for everyone else.

.


"I guarantee you I see far worse than you on a daily basis, don’t presume to know anything about me when you don’t know me, you don’t know what I do and you don’t know the things I see. I have seen things that you will only see in horror films mate, I assure you. "

Oh, for crying out loud. It’s not a competition about who has seen the worst things, bright spark. It’s about the fact that some of us here specifically work, day in day out, with people in circumstances you claim don’t exist. It’s not a willy-waving contest about who’s the hard man. It’s about you, on this particular topic, being verifiably, categorically wrong.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Ok free rent and council tax...

Here goes £57 pw is what they get. Now u work it out.

Gas

Electric

Food

Travel

TV

Water

I see no room for luxury here. People need to get off that "I pay tax" high horse. Seriously. Social media makes people believe anything

Benefits

£73 per week per adult

£21 1st child in child benefit

£13 every child after in child benefit

£140 per week for 2 children child tax cred

Rent paid

Council tax paid

Dental

Optician

Prescription

I don’t get my rent paid, or my council tax. Yes I get free prescriptions etc, because I earn a low wage. "

You work and earn a wage, I'm on about people that don't work at all! I'm totally for people working and getting their wages topped up or getting free prescriptions, opticians etc

It's the ones that just can't be bothered that boils my piss

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Neither do you

Except that, pretty much every single day, I work with people you don’t believe exist, seeing things you will never understand, either because you lack basic human empathy, or believe the things you read, or are too ignorant to accept.

I guarantee you I see far worse than you on a daily basis, don’t presume to know anything about me when you don’t know me, you don’t know what I do and you don’t know the things I see. I have seen things that you will only see in horror films mate, I assure you.

Don’t presume, he says, whilst presuming himself. "

I know, right!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Actually not all of them are. No. Many no recourse. Some do have benefits but it’s a flawed system and even food costs more when you’re on the streets - nowhere to store and keep food and processed readymade food is more expensive than being able to batch cook your own, when you’re on the streets actually foodbanks aren’t really useful as you’re given three days of tinned or store cupboard foods to take where? And then if you’re lucky enough to get to the top of a nightshelter waiting list, you have to be able to travel before curfew to the rotating halls, different each night to keep your space, and your clothing/shoes wear out quickly when you don’t have a change of ability to wash them, and let’s remember you have to get computer access regularly to be able to input all the online job applications you need to do (despite it being the worst way to job search for you) in order to maintain your benefits in the first place - so it’s all about trying to maintain the status quo rather than helping you move forward. And then it’s your period.

Ok I understand that, then I can see the need there. Thank you for explaining. But I still don't think they should be completely free, or free for those who recieve benefits. There are certain cases then, like you explain, that have a dire need, but not for all. "

I’m happy to meet you halfway then. Xx

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Neither do you

Except that, pretty much every single day, I work with people you don’t believe exist, seeing things you will never understand, either because you lack basic human empathy, or believe the things you read, or are too ignorant to accept.

I guarantee you I see far worse than you on a daily basis, don’t presume to know anything about me when you don’t know me, you don’t know what I do and you don’t know the things I see. I have seen things that you will only see in horror films mate, I assure you.

Don’t presume, he says, whilst presuming himself.

I know, right! "

I’m not presuming, I know I see the worst there is to see, there just isn’t anything worse to see and deal with. I could give examples if you like.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Ok free rent and council tax...

Here goes £57 pw is what they get. Now u work it out.

Gas

Electric

Food

Travel

TV

Water

I see no room for luxury here. People need to get off that "I pay tax" high horse. Seriously. Social media makes people believe anything

Benefits

£73 per week per adult

£21 1st child in child benefit

£13 every child after in child benefit

£140 per week for 2 children child tax cred

Rent paid

Council tax paid

Dental

Optician

Prescription

I don’t get my rent paid, or my council tax. Yes I get free prescriptions etc, because I earn a low wage.

You work and earn a wage, I'm on about people that don't work at all! I'm totally for people working and getting their wages topped up or getting free prescriptions, opticians etc

It's the ones that just can't be bothered that boils my piss"

Lots of people on ESA and some on UC who can’t get a council house don’t get their full rent paid, or council tax. These are usually people who are too poorly to work. People on benefits don’t all fit into one category. It’s always good to remember that.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Actually not all of them are. No. Many no recourse. Some do have benefits but it’s a flawed system and even food costs more when you’re on the streets - nowhere to store and keep food and processed readymade food is more expensive than being able to batch cook your own, when you’re on the streets actually foodbanks aren’t really useful as you’re given three days of tinned or store cupboard foods to take where? And then if you’re lucky enough to get to the top of a nightshelter waiting list, you have to be able to travel before curfew to the rotating halls, different each night to keep your space, and your clothing/shoes wear out quickly when you don’t have a change of ability to wash them, and let’s remember you have to get computer access regularly to be able to input all the online job applications you need to do (despite it being the worst way to job search for you) in order to maintain your benefits in the first place - so it’s all about trying to maintain the status quo rather than helping you move forward. And then it’s your period.

Ok I understand that, then I can see the need there. Thank you for explaining. But I still don't think they should be completely free, or free for those who recieve benefits. There are certain cases then, like you explain, that have a dire need, but not for all.

I’m happy to meet you halfway then. Xx"

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By *abulously curiousCouple  over a year ago

manchester


"Ok free rent and council tax...

Here goes £57 pw is what they get. Now u work it out.

Gas

Electric

Food

Travel

TV

Water

I see no room for luxury here. People need to get off that "I pay tax" high horse. Seriously. Social media makes people believe anything

Benefits

£73 per week per adult

£21 1st child in child benefit

£13 every child after in child benefit

£140 per week for 2 children child tax cred

Rent paid

Council tax paid

Dental

Optician

Prescription

"

only over 25. And of course tax credit was brought in to take children out of poverty. I understand the point of people not using money for kids but that's a small number. Would u really begrudge a child not being in poverty without the child tax. And 140 per week child tax.. darling u need to get ur facts right

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By *lackbird1000Woman  over a year ago

Birmingham

I am wondering is if the third richer country in the world people are in the poverty !

Imagine third world countries with no benefit systems ! Or even clean water to drink !

I am fortunate that I always had a job ! And have what I need and more ! In UK tones and tones of food are binned everyday !

People have it easy in here !Spain and Portugal an example you don't have all this benefits ! If you don't have for your rent , no housing benefit ,they will evict you ! No council to re house you !

Job seekers ,income support all a big joke !

Is nothing wrong to pay your own way !!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Neither do you

Except that, pretty much every single day, I work with people you don’t believe exist, seeing things you will never understand, either because you lack basic human empathy, or believe the things you read, or are too ignorant to accept.

I guarantee you I see far worse than you on a daily basis, don’t presume to know anything about me when you don’t know me, you don’t know what I do and you don’t know the things I see. I have seen things that you will only see in horror films mate, I assure you.

Don’t presume, he says, whilst presuming himself.

I know, right!

I’m not presuming, I know I see the worst there is to see, there just isn’t anything worse to see and deal with. I could give examples if you like."

Go on then...I've got 5 minutes to kill waiting on my face pack to dry. (Paid for with my own money...no benefits....)

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Neither do you

Except that, pretty much every single day, I work with people you don’t believe exist, seeing things you will never understand, either because you lack basic human empathy, or believe the things you read, or are too ignorant to accept.

I guarantee you I see far worse than you on a daily basis, don’t presume to know anything about me when you don’t know me, you don’t know what I do and you don’t know the things I see. I have seen things that you will only see in horror films mate, I assure you.

Don’t presume, he says, whilst presuming himself.

I know, right!

I’m not presuming, I know I see the worst there is to see, there just isn’t anything worse to see and deal with. I could give examples if you like."

You are most definitely presuming.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die.

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By *inkyLondonpairCouple  over a year ago

London


"Neither do you

Except that, pretty much every single day, I work with people you don’t believe exist, seeing things you will never understand, either because you lack basic human empathy, or believe the things you read, or are too ignorant to accept.

I guarantee you I see far worse than you on a daily basis, don’t presume to know anything about me when you don’t know me, you don’t know what I do and you don’t know the things I see. I have seen things that you will only see in horror films mate, I assure you.

Don’t presume, he says, whilst presuming himself.

I know, right!

I’m not presuming, I know I see the worst there is to see, there just isn’t anything worse to see and deal with. I could give examples if you like."

But that is not hisvpoint. He's saying he works with poor people on benefits. You are saying there are no such people. Hence why he knows from personal experience you are wrong.

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By *abulously curiousCouple  over a year ago

manchester


"Perhaps those single people on benefits could go out and get a bloody job. Some see it as a very alien idea and wouldn’t dream of it.

There are so many people applying for so few jobs, companies are no longer even acknowledging receipt of applications. But, yeah, anyone who wants a job can just get one.

.

I watch them everyday sitting in the pub drinking, eating, smoking and vaping whilst their kids are at school and I'm running around after them! Picking up their benefits bill every month when the tax man hits me

Oh, well, in that case I’ll take the handful of people you see in the pub and assume it’s the case for everyone else.

.

I guarantee you I see far worse than you on a daily basis, don’t presume to know anything about me when you don’t know me, you don’t know what I do and you don’t know the things I see. I have seen things that you will only see in horror films mate, I assure you.

Oh, for crying out loud. It’s not a competition about who has seen the worst things, bright spark. It’s about the fact that some of us here specifically work, day in day out, with people in circumstances you claim don’t exist. It’s not a willy-waving contest about who’s the hard man. It’s about you, on this particular topic, being verifiably, categorically wrong."

no its not it's about educating people that working people live better FACT

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Perhaps those single people on benefits could go out and get a bloody job. Some see it as a very alien idea and wouldn’t dream of it.

There are so many people applying for so few jobs, companies are no longer even acknowledging receipt of applications. But, yeah, anyone who wants a job can just get one.

.

I watch them everyday sitting in the pub drinking, eating, smoking and vaping whilst their kids are at school and I'm running around after them! Picking up their benefits bill every month when the tax man hits me

Oh, well, in that case I’ll take the handful of people you see in the pub and assume it’s the case for everyone else.

.

I guarantee you I see far worse than you on a daily basis, don’t presume to know anything about me when you don’t know me, you don’t know what I do and you don’t know the things I see. I have seen things that you will only see in horror films mate, I assure you.

Oh, for crying out loud. It’s not a competition about who has seen the worst things, bright spark. It’s about the fact that some of us here specifically work, day in day out, with people in circumstances you claim don’t exist. It’s not a willy-waving contest about who’s the hard man. It’s about you, on this particular topic, being verifiably, categorically wrong."

When did I say circumstances don’t exist, I certainly didn’t say that. This thread isn’t about me, it’s about the rights and wrongs of sanitary products actually. You’re the one who said you see things daily that I could imagine exist, I beg to differ.

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By *inkyLondonpairCouple  over a year ago

London


"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die.

"

I ve seen some things that a woman ain't supposed to see..

Name that tune...

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By *mumaWoman  over a year ago

Livingston


"People in benefits are better off than most of the working population, they already get free boilers, insulation, prescriptions, council tax and god knows what else. They don’t need any more incentive not to work.

The sad thing is, you’re to self-involved to ever have the first clue as to how desperately out of touch you are with the reality of the country you live in.

Bollocks I’m afraid, I see all kinds of people day in day out, on both ends of the scale and believe me, those on benefits do alright, every one of the houses you go in has got a 50” telly on the wall. I’m very much in touch thank you very much.

If that's the case, I presume you will be giving up your job to live that luxurious life...

No because I’ve got a bit of pride about myself, I’ve worked since the day I left school but many people see milking the system as a career. worked since I was 14 years old, until 4 years ago when I was diagnosed with a rare form of MS, I have digestive and spinal problems, had 4 facial strokes and also pretty much lost the use of my right arm.... I’m now in a wheelchair and pretty much housebound as My family live over an hour away... yes, I get benefits bug I sure as hell ain’t milking the system. I would give anything to be able to go back to work, but some days I can barely even get out of bed. I don’t drive and can’t use public transport, therefore I have to pay for taxis to get about...

Come live a month in my life and see how “easy” it is to live on benefits!!!

I would never say somebody in your position was milking the system. You’re twisting my words. Benefits are there for the like of you who need it. There are plenty of people that do milk it tho, end of story."

How am I twisting your words when you earlier stated "People in benefits are better off than most of the working population, they already get free boilers, insulation, prescriptions, council tax and god knows what else. They don’t need any more incentive not to work. "

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By *r MoriartyMan  over a year ago

The Land that time forgot (Norfolk)

Fleshlights should be free, equal rights.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I definitely think it's disgusting that they aren't VAT free. They aren't a *want*, they are a need. People should never have to be in a situation where they have to chose between buying food or buying sanitary products.

I also think women should get them free in certain circumstances. Homeless women for sure, and teenagers who aren't necessarily going to have an income of their own. I remember when I was at school and I had a friend confess to me that her parents wouldn't buy her sanitary towels because *they thought she was lying about starting her periods!* I gave her some of mine, but... what the fuck?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die.

"

I’ve seen things, man. Real bad things...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Neither do you

Except that, pretty much every single day, I work with people you don’t believe exist, seeing things you will never understand, either because you lack basic human empathy, or believe the things you read, or are too ignorant to accept.

I guarantee you I see far worse than you on a daily basis, don’t presume to know anything about me when you don’t know me, you don’t know what I do and you don’t know the things I see. I have seen things that you will only see in horror films mate, I assure you.

Don’t presume, he says, whilst presuming himself.

I know, right!

I’m not presuming, I know I see the worst there is to see, there just isn’t anything worse to see and deal with. I could give examples if you like.

You are most definitely presuming. "

That’s just your presumption, I know better.

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By *abulously curiousCouple  over a year ago

manchester


"I am wondering is if the third richer country in the world people are in the poverty !

Imagine third world countries with no benefit systems ! Or even clean water to drink !

I am fortunate that I always had a job ! And have what I need and more ! In UK tones and tones of food are binned everyday !

People have it easy in here !Spain and Portugal an example you don't have all this benefits ! If you don't have for your rent , no housing benefit ,they will evict you ! No council to re house you !

Job seekers ,income support all a big joke !

Is nothing wrong to pay your own way !!!

"

words fail me

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die.

I ve seen some things that a woman ain't supposed to see..

Name that tune... "

Calm down, Charlene.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Fleshlights should be free, equal rights."

If I insert one inside me, would you fuck me?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"People in benefits are better off than most of the working population, they already get free boilers, insulation, prescriptions, council tax and god knows what else. They don’t need any more incentive not to work.

The sad thing is, you’re to self-involved to ever have the first clue as to how desperately out of touch you are with the reality of the country you live in.

Bollocks I’m afraid, I see all kinds of people day in day out, on both ends of the scale and believe me, those on benefits do alright, every one of the houses you go in has got a 50” telly on the wall. I’m very much in touch thank you very much.

If that's the case, I presume you will be giving up your job to live that luxurious life...

No because I’ve got a bit of pride about myself, I’ve worked since the day I left school but many people see milking the system as a career. worked since I was 14 years old, until 4 years ago when I was diagnosed with a rare form of MS, I have digestive and spinal problems, had 4 facial strokes and also pretty much lost the use of my right arm.... I’m now in a wheelchair and pretty much housebound as My family live over an hour away... yes, I get benefits bug I sure as hell ain’t milking the system. I would give anything to be able to go back to work, but some days I can barely even get out of bed. I don’t drive and can’t use public transport, therefore I have to pay for taxis to get about...

Come live a month in my life and see how “easy” it is to live on benefits!!!

I would never say somebody in your position was milking the system. You’re twisting my words. Benefits are there for the like of you who need it. There are plenty of people that do milk it tho, end of story.

How am I twisting your words when you earlier stated "People in benefits are better off than most of the working population, they already get free boilers, insulation, prescriptions, council tax and god knows what else. They don’t need any more incentive not to work. ""

Because if you read the whole thread, I was referring to people who milk the system, not people such as yourself who need it and have no other option.

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By *inkyLondonpairCouple  over a year ago

London


"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die.

I ve seen some things that a woman ain't supposed to see..

Name that tune...

Calm down, Charlene."

Right singer. Song is I've Never Been to Me

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Neither do you

Except that, pretty much every single day, I work with people you don’t believe exist, seeing things you will never understand, either because you lack basic human empathy, or believe the things you read, or are too ignorant to accept.

I guarantee you I see far worse than you on a daily basis, don’t presume to know anything about me when you don’t know me, you don’t know what I do and you don’t know the things I see. I have seen things that you will only see in horror films mate, I assure you.

Don’t presume, he says, whilst presuming himself.

I know, right!

I’m not presuming, I know I see the worst there is to see, there just isn’t anything worse to see and deal with. I could give examples if you like.

You are most definitely presuming.

That’s just your presumption, I know better."

Would you like me to point out where you presumed? I don’t feel as though you quite get it.

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By *r MoriartyMan  over a year ago

The Land that time forgot (Norfolk)


"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die.

"

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Neither do you

Except that, pretty much every single day, I work with people you don’t believe exist, seeing things you will never understand, either because you lack basic human empathy, or believe the things you read, or are too ignorant to accept.

I guarantee you I see far worse than you on a daily basis, don’t presume to know anything about me when you don’t know me, you don’t know what I do and you don’t know the things I see. I have seen things that you will only see in horror films mate, I assure you.

Don’t presume, he says, whilst presuming himself.

I know, right!

I’m not presuming, I know I see the worst there is to see, there just isn’t anything worse to see and deal with. I could give examples if you like.

You are most definitely presuming.

That’s just your presumption, I know better.

Would you like me to point out where you presumed? I don’t feel as though you quite get it."

Nah, you’re boring me now, thanks for the offer tho

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Ok free rent and council tax...

Here goes £57 pw is what they get. Now u work it out.

Gas

Electric

Food

Travel

TV

Water

I see no room for luxury here. People need to get off that "I pay tax" high horse. Seriously. Social media makes people believe anything

Benefits

£73 per week per adult

£21 1st child in child benefit

£13 every child after in child benefit

£140 per week for 2 children child tax cred

Rent paid

Council tax paid

Dental

Optician

Prescription

only over 25. And of course tax credit was brought in to take children out of poverty. I understand the point of people not using money for kids but that's a small number. Would u really begrudge a child not being in poverty without the child tax. And 140 per week child tax.. darling u need to get ur facts right"

Those sums are fact!!

I wouldn't see a child without anything they needed I'm a mum! But far too many people milk the system, it's there for genuine disabled and single mums that are single mums because they've been widowed or similar circumstances that are beyond their control NOT just because they got a child under 5! I'm a single mum and it's not easy but I manage and my kids will grow up with work ethic!!

I pay for my own fanny rags and I don't smoke or do drugs

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Neither do you

Except that, pretty much every single day, I work with people you don’t believe exist, seeing things you will never understand, either because you lack basic human empathy, or believe the things you read, or are too ignorant to accept.

I guarantee you I see far worse than you on a daily basis, don’t presume to know anything about me when you don’t know me, you don’t know what I do and you don’t know the things I see. I have seen things that you will only see in horror films mate, I assure you.

Don’t presume, he says, whilst presuming himself.

I know, right!

I’m not presuming, I know I see the worst there is to see, there just isn’t anything worse to see and deal with. I could give examples if you like.

You are most definitely presuming.

That’s just your presumption, I know better.

Would you like me to point out where you presumed? I don’t feel as though you quite get it.

Nah, you’re boring me now, thanks for the offer tho "

You’re really good at debating.

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By *abulously curiousCouple  over a year ago

manchester

Gonna find some light hearted reading in other forums as my BP has sky rocketed lol

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By *r MoriartyMan  over a year ago

The Land that time forgot (Norfolk)


"Fleshlights should be free, equal rights.

If I insert one inside me, would you fuck me?"

For quoting Bladerunner I would put my cock in a meat grinder for you.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Dont forget that periods start from anywhere from 11/12 onwards. Girls at school that arent spending benefits on booze and nails hopefully relying on a parent to supply them. Horribly

embarrasing for younger girls to have to try and sort out if parents arent forthcoming

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Dont forget that periods start from anywhere from 11/12 onwards. Girls at school that arent spending benefits on booze and nails hopefully relying on a parent to supply them. Horribly

embarrasing for younger girls to have to try and sort out if parents arent forthcoming "

That's awful

I'd like to think the school would help the girls out with stuff like that!

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By *abulously curiousCouple  over a year ago

manchester


"Ok free rent and council tax...

Here goes £57 pw is what they get. Now u work it out.

Gas

Electric

Food

Travel

TV

Water

I see no room for luxury here. People need to get off that "I pay tax" high horse. Seriously. Social media makes people believe anything

Benefits

£73 per week per adult

£21 1st child in child benefit

£13 every child after in child benefit

£140 per week for 2 children child tax cred

Rent paid

Council tax paid

Dental

Optician

Prescription

only over 25. And of course tax credit was brought in to take children out of poverty. I understand the point of people not using money for kids but that's a small number. Would u really begrudge a child not being in poverty without the child tax. And 140 per week child tax.. darling u need to get ur facts right

Those sums are fact!!

I wouldn't see a child without anything they needed I'm a mum! But far too many people milk the system, it's there for genuine disabled and single mums that are single mums because they've been widowed or similar circumstances that are beyond their control NOT just because they got a child under 5! I'm a single mum and it's not easy but I manage and my kids will grow up with work ethic!!

I pay for my own fanny rags and I don't smoke or do drugs "

hahaaaa xx I totally get u but under 5 rule is only for single women. I've worked all my life but seriously it's not better living on benefits because everyone would be on them. Where I'm from there are no jobs. When it changed from 11 to 5 I was happy for income support mums because let's face it the kids at school all day HOWEVER.... my childcare bill is 900 per month. U have to have a good job to make it worth while x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Fleshlights should be free, equal rights.

If I insert one inside me, would you fuck me?

For quoting Bladerunner I would put my cock in a meat grinder for you."

MeatGrinder, I might make that my new username.

Also, I’m off to Norfolk soon...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Fleshlights should be free, equal rights.

If I insert one inside me, would you fuck me?

For quoting Bladerunner I would put my cock in a meat grinder for you.

MeatGrinder, I might make that my new username.

Also, I’m off to Norfolk soon..."

if a meet happens from this thread I'll put a pack of jam rags in the food bank!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Ok free rent and council tax...

Here goes £57 pw is what they get. Now u work it out.

Gas

Electric

Food

Travel

TV

Water

I see no room for luxury here. People need to get off that "I pay tax" high horse. Seriously. Social media makes people believe anything

Benefits

£73 per week per adult

£21 1st child in child benefit

£13 every child after in child benefit

£140 per week for 2 children child tax cred

Rent paid

Council tax paid

Dental

Optician

Prescription

only over 25. And of course tax credit was brought in to take children out of poverty. I understand the point of people not using money for kids but that's a small number. Would u really begrudge a child not being in poverty without the child tax. And 140 per week child tax.. darling u need to get ur facts right

Those sums are fact!!

I wouldn't see a child without anything they needed I'm a mum! But far too many people milk the system, it's there for genuine disabled and single mums that are single mums because they've been widowed or similar circumstances that are beyond their control NOT just because they got a child under 5! I'm a single mum and it's not easy but I manage and my kids will grow up with work ethic!!

I pay for my own fanny rags and I don't smoke or do drugs hahaaaa xx I totally get u but under 5 rule is only for single women. I've worked all my life but seriously it's not better living on benefits because everyone would be on them. Where I'm from there are no jobs. When it changed from 11 to 5 I was happy for income support mums because let's face it the kids at school all day HOWEVER.... my childcare bill is 900 per month. U have to have a good job to make it worth while x"

If you're on a low income a large percentage of child care will be paid for, child care is a killer I've been paying it for most of the past 15 years lol damn kids

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Fleshlights should be free, equal rights.

If I insert one inside me, would you fuck me?

For quoting Bladerunner I would put my cock in a meat grinder for you.

MeatGrinder, I might make that my new username.

Also, I’m off to Norfolk soon...

if a meet happens from this thread I'll put a pack of jam rags in the food bank!! "

Moriarty, do it for the ladies in need (and the lady in need).

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Fleshlights should be free, equal rights.

If I insert one inside me, would you fuck me?

For quoting Bladerunner I would put my cock in a meat grinder for you.

MeatGrinder, I might make that my new username.

Also, I’m off to Norfolk soon...

if a meet happens from this thread I'll put a pack of jam rags in the food bank!!

Moriarty, do it for the ladies in need (and the lady in need). "

no fake veris now, has to be a real meet!!

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By *ust RachelTV/TS  over a year ago

Horsham

Considering family planning clinics give out condoms, why can't sanitary products be given out as well. Obviously not necessarily in a family planning centre.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Fleshlights should be free, equal rights.

If I insert one inside me, would you fuck me?

For quoting Bladerunner I would put my cock in a meat grinder for you.

MeatGrinder, I might make that my new username.

Also, I’m off to Norfolk soon...

if a meet happens from this thread I'll put a pack of jam rags in the food bank!!

Moriarty, do it for the ladies in need (and the lady in need). no fake veris now, has to be a real meet!!"

Got ma period though.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Why does this thread, on any forum on any site anywhere, always degenerate into the 'I know a family on benefits who holiday in Florida three times a year and have a 50' telly'?

Maybe you do know people who 'work the system' and make you aggrieved you have to get out of bed in the morning. But that is not the reality for 99% of families on the breadline. It just isn't. I'll tell you something else - if you are in work, even if it is poorly paid, you have opportunities that are not open to people trapped, for whatever reason (historical, educational, societal, generational, ad infinitum) in the benefits system.

Don't envy the lifestyle, as you see it. The hard truth is that those of us who work are the reason a benefit system exists. If we all gave up working tomorrow, there would be no such system.

The roots of poverty are spread widely and rarely have a single cause. Honestly, if you could give up work, sign on, apply for benefits through the red tape, suffer the prejudice of your friends and family not to mention society at large, yet be no worse off financially - would you?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Fleshlights should be free, equal rights.

If I insert one inside me, would you fuck me?

For quoting Bladerunner I would put my cock in a meat grinder for you.

MeatGrinder, I might make that my new username.

Also, I’m off to Norfolk soon...

if a meet happens from this thread I'll put a pack of jam rags in the food bank!!

Moriarty, do it for the ladies in need (and the lady in need). no fake veris now, has to be a real meet!!

Got ma period though. "

Hahahahahahahaha! Here have a mattress for ya nickers!

Mines late again

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Ok free rent and council tax...

Here goes £57 pw is what they get. Now u work it out.

Gas

Electric

Food

Travel

TV

Water

I see no room for luxury here. People need to get off that "I pay tax" high horse. Seriously. Social media makes people believe anything

Benefits

£73 per week per adult

£21 1st child in child benefit

£13 every child after in child benefit

£140 per week for 2 children child tax cred

Rent paid

Council tax paid

Dental

Optician

Prescription

only over 25. And of course tax credit was brought in to take children out of poverty. I understand the point of people not using money for kids but that's a small number. Would u really begrudge a child not being in poverty without the child tax. And 140 per week child tax.. darling u need to get ur facts right

Those sums are fact!!

I wouldn't see a child without anything they needed I'm a mum! But far too many people milk the system, it's there for genuine disabled and single mums that are single mums because they've been widowed or similar circumstances that are beyond their control NOT just because they got a child under 5! I'm a single mum and it's not easy but I manage and my kids will grow up with work ethic!!

I pay for my own fanny rags and I don't smoke or do drugs "

Lambeth has a 4 year waiting list for a council house. The other boroughs are similar. Many privately rent. Your sums aren’t facts for everyone.

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By *lackbird1000Woman  over a year ago

Birmingham


"Dont forget that periods start from anywhere from 11/12 onwards. Girls at school that arent spending benefits on booze and nails hopefully relying on a parent to supply them. Horribly

embarrasing for younger girls to have to try and sort out if parents arent forthcoming

That's awful

I'd like to think the school would help the girls out with stuff like that! "

yes they do at my last secondary school , the pastoral care had there if the girls needed it.And the school even provide free breakfast for the most needed ,family difficulty etc .

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Fleshlights should be free, equal rights.

If I insert one inside me, would you fuck me?

For quoting Bladerunner I would put my cock in a meat grinder for you.

MeatGrinder, I might make that my new username.

Also, I’m off to Norfolk soon...

if a meet happens from this thread I'll put a pack of jam rags in the food bank!!

Moriarty, do it for the ladies in need (and the lady in need). no fake veris now, has to be a real meet!!

Got ma period though.

Hahahahahahahaha! Here have a mattress for ya nickers!

Mines late again "

Stop with the bare backing.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Why does this thread, on any forum on any site anywhere, always degenerate into the 'I know a family on benefits who holiday in Florida three times a year and have a 50' telly'?

Maybe you do know people who 'work the system' and make you aggrieved you have to get out of bed in the morning. But that is not the reality for 99% of families on the breadline. It just isn't. I'll tell you something else - if you are in work, even if it is poorly paid, you have opportunities that are not open to people trapped, for whatever reason (historical, educational, societal, generational, ad infinitum) in the benefits system.

Don't envy the lifestyle, as you see it. The hard truth is that those of us who work are the reason a benefit system exists. If we all gave up working tomorrow, there would be no such system.

The roots of poverty are spread widely and rarely have a single cause. Honestly, if you could give up work, sign on, apply for benefits through the red tape, suffer the prejudice of your friends and family not to mention society at large, yet be no worse off financially - would you? "

Well said.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


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For quoting Bladerunner I would put my cock in a meat grinder for you.

MeatGrinder, I might make that my new username.

Also, I’m off to Norfolk soon...

if a meet happens from this thread I'll put a pack of jam rags in the food bank!!

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He can do you up the bum instead!

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By *ubiousOatcakeMan  over a year ago

Aberdeenshire


"When did I say circumstances don’t exist, I certainly didn’t say that."

You said that I don’t know what I’m talking about when I described the reality of many people’s lives on benefits.

Also, here:

“...believe me, those on benefits do alright, every one of the houses you go in has got a 50” telly on the wall.” Again, not ‘people milking the system’, you’re simply (wrongly) asserting that people on benefits have it easy, and denying the existence of those who struggle.

And, since you’re having difficulty with your memory, let’s look at some other things you have said:

“People in benefits are better off than most of the working population...” Note, you said ‘people on benefits’, not just ‘people milking the system’.

“I’m not wrong, unless they are drug users or alcoholics the people who milk the benefits system as a career do quite well for themselves.” Here, you limit those on benefits to one of three categories.

“No because I’ve got a bit of pride about myself...” And now you’re saying that people on benefits have no sense of pride.

“...it’s the people that don’t work and milk every penny out of the system that gets my goat. The amount of able bodied people driving brand new cars on motability winds me up, a lot are not deserving of it.” I missed this one earlier. Here, you’ll add people with disabilities to the people you’re shitting on (how noble of you) as well as saying that anyone who doesn’t work at all is milking the system.

I’m sure that, when you claimed you ‘only’ meant those milking the system (vile wording designed to vilify the poor) it couldn’t possibly be that you were desperately back-pedalling when you realised how out of your depth you were.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Pretty hot for you right now, Dubious.

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