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By *litterbabe OP Woman
over a year ago
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There are many knives out there, that are illegal to even process in the uk.
How can it be that websites such as wish can post them directly to named people, at home, marked on the pack as "knife", and it is illegal to even possess them in the UK.
These are the very knives that people are trying to get off the streets.
If you knew this was happening and you wanted to report it without actually getting anybody in trouble, and you wanted to suggest to somebody where they could hand in knives they have bought before realising they were illegal, how could you get advice....
I really don't see how it is not clamped down on, and you can literally get these things delivered to any address by just ordering and paying on a debit card, or paypal.
Some of them are costing less than £2 delivered, there is no age restriction when ordering online.
I really feel this needs to be stopped, but I wouldn't know where to start. |
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By *tonMessCouple
over a year ago
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A friend works the door at nightclubs and sent a link the other day to a short video that shows what doormen have to look out for... the video shocked me.
For less than £4 you can buy a fairly surprisingly sturdy lock knife with a 3.5" blade that... wait for it... fold completely flat into a credit card looking piece of plastic.
Now 3.5" isn't that long a blade I know but it's enough to do damage.
What the actual fuck was the point in even creating such a weapon?!
I can think of absolutely no legitimate reasonto own or carry one other than to do harm to others.
It just beggers belief  |
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By *litterbabe OP Woman
over a year ago
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Not all knives are legal to possess, butterfly knives, flip knives etc they are all illegal. I also don't understand what would prompt somebody to want to own an illegal one, I would feel it could be used against me. The only knives I want around me on my kitchen knives that I use obviously appropriately.
It is also possible to get a taser posted to your home, from normal googleable shopping sites such as wish, for less than £10.
I don't understand how customs and the authorities let this happen. It is far too easy for people to order weapons, how can you get something illegal posted to your home like this.
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By *al2001Man
over a year ago
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What is the point in banning knives when almost every kitchen in the world has a selectionof razor sharp long knives
I have a 13" long kiritsuke Japanese slicing knife that is beyond razor sharp,I can whittle a head hair with it. It would literally chop q man in half
Its not knives that are the problem |
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By *al2001Man
over a year ago
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"Not all knives are legal to possess, butterfly knives, flip knives etc they are all illegal. I also don't understand what would prompt somebody to want to own an illegal one, I would feel it could be used against me. The only knives I want around me on my kitchen knives that I use obviously appropriately.
It is also possible to get a taser posted to your home, from normal googleable shopping sites such as wish, for less than £10.
I don't understand how customs and the authorities let this happen. It is far too easy for people to order weapons, how can you get something illegal posted to your home like this.
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Howdo customs stop something being posted to you
With drugs they use sniffer dogs
Knives don't smell
Can't xray every bit of post into the country |
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There are lots of weapon amnesty boxes around to hand in unwanted weapons without any problems, as far as websites supplying these items they can be reported to trading standards and if it is illegal to supply them they will investigate , however there will always be more available ,I purchased a bear grylls knife at .. Outdoors for when I'm camping that would easily kill someone if in the wrong hands |
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By *al2001Man
over a year ago
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"But surely it shouldn't be so easy to be able to order an illegal knife and firearm to be posted to your house, both together for under £10?"
Why not?
Selling knives is an international business
Not every country is having so serious a knife crime problem |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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There is an age restriction on selling knives. The Offensive Weapons Act makes it illegal to sell any knife to anyone under 18. However, it's perfectly legal to possess a knife if you are under 18 or even to get someone who is over 18 to buy it for you. The law only applies to the sale of knives and it's the retailer who will be charged if the law is broken.
As for carrying a knife, it's up to the Police to decide what your intention is. Germany is an interesting contrast to the UK. There are shops all over the country selling knives in huge quantities, without blade guards and on open display. They just have an entirely different cultural approach.
Anything is a weapon in the wrong hands. Pity we have such a problem with it here. |
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"Germany is an interesting contrast to the UK. There are shops all over the country selling knives in huge quantities, without blade guards and on open display. They just have an entirely different cultural approach.
Anything is a weapon in the wrong hands. Pity we have such a problem with it here."
When I went to Calella nr. Barcelona a few years ago, there was a shop that you could buy pretty much every weapon known to man. Don't think I would have had too much luck trying to get ma GPMG back to the UK though  |
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"A pen pushed into the jugular can kill.
It's not the item but the person that does the damage "
Yep,I have to agree. When I was young there were far more knives about. Just about everyone of my mates had a sheath knife. We didn't run around stabbing each other. |
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By *litterbabe OP Woman
over a year ago
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Fair enough enough, maybe it's less shocking than I thought. I was just surprised to hear about a selection of items someones 14 year old had purchased, and they felt was so cool, it just scared me that they could get them so easily when they can't walk into Home Bargains and buy a kitchen knife.
Fair points made I guess. I still feel I would be a lot more intimidates seeing someone with a knife than a pen, But I get the points made. |
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"Fair enough enough, maybe it's less shocking than I thought. I was just surprised to hear about a selection of items someones 14 year old had purchased, and they felt was so cool, it just scared me that they could get them so easily when they can't walk into Home Bargains and buy a kitchen knife.
Fair points made I guess. I still feel I would be a lot more intimidates seeing someone with a knife than a pen, But I get the points made."
Its attitudes what have changed. They clamped down on gun laws years ago now,yet more people are getting shot. It's the same with knives,ban them altogether and people will still get stabbed. They are far more liberal in other countries regarding guns and knives. Yet they don't seem to have the same problems we have. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It the same old argument about the use of a "tool" as an offencive wepaon. Its all about perspective and the fact that most of the people who do use them correctly do if fact are them let down by thr handful of fucktards who don't . Its the same with fire arms and if the past 18 months have any indication van hire. |
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"Not all knives are legal to possess, butterfly knives, flip knives etc they are all illegal. I also don't understand what would prompt somebody to want to own an illegal one, I would feel it could be used against me. The only knives I want around me on my kitchen knives that I use obviously appropriately.
It is also possible to get a taser posted to your home, from normal googleable shopping sites such as wish, for less than £10.
I don't understand how customs and the authorities let this happen. It is far too easy for people to order weapons, how can you get something illegal posted to your home like this.
Howdo customs stop something being posted to you
With drugs they use sniffer dogs
Knives don't smell
Can't xray every bit of post into the country"
They can’t X-ray every item coming into the country but imports from certain countries are looked at with much more scrutiny that others. I work in customer services for Parcelforce and regularly have to deal with calls where goods have been seized by customs. The main reasons are the goods ether being counterfeit or illegal to import. In my time working there I have never seen seized goods being imported from the likes of USA, Canada, Australia etc. They always originate from the Far East and most will be from China. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Fair enough enough, maybe it's less shocking than I thought. I was just surprised to hear about a selection of items someones 14 year old had purchased, and they felt was so cool, it just scared me that they could get them so easily when they can't walk into Home Bargains and buy a kitchen knife.
Fair points made I guess. I still feel I would be a lot more intimidates seeing someone with a knife than a pen, But I get the points made."
It's the culture these days to appear cool to there friends isn't it. We know it shouldn't happen bit it does. Our son has to carry a letter from his employer with him when he goes to work and back. He is a chef so has knives in his back pack. They can do damage because they are razor sharp. Hubby is a builder and normally forgets to take his knife out of his pocket when getting home. Neither have used them to hurt others because they know better |
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"Its illegalmto carry a knife in public. Thats about it. Everything else is legal"
If it's a non locking folding knife, with a blade of less than 3 inches, it's fine to carry.
I carry a uk legal knife in my rucksack and have another identical knife that I use at work... |
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