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over a year ago
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"Okay so 'hey how are you' is not acceptable here so I was wondering how best to start a conversation with a new person on here. I'd like some tips "
Take a gander at their profile and tailor your message to that...
Steer clear of going on about what you're looking for though as that looks a bit selfish |
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I honestly don’t think it matters as long as your not a twat. If they like your profile and in the right frame I’d mind you may get a response.
Try to remember the lovely ladies in here get hundreds of mesagages and are, by no fault of their own, often jaded by idiotic messages, so a simple ‘Hi’ is often just as affective as anything else. |
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Tbh it doesn't matter how the message looks as they check the profile first. If they don't like you then your message is pointless.
And the guys that get meats on here are usually massively built and have 8 inches plus or just have a huge dick.
Anything under 7 and you're really gonna struggle as the majority want something special. Not a dime a dozen. |
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"Tbh it doesn't matter how the message looks as they check the profile first. If they don't like you then your message is pointless.
And the guys that get meats on here are usually massively built and have 8 inches plus or just have a huge dick.
Anything under 7 and you're really gonna struggle as the majority want something special. Not a dime a dozen. "
Most of the men that get meets on here are also good with the banter, usually have a sense of humour and dont take fab, or themselves too seriously...
Desperation is a terrible affliction |
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"Tbh it doesn't matter how the message looks as they check the profile first. If they don't like you then your message is pointless.
And the guys that get meats on here are usually massively built and have 8 inches plus or just have a huge dick.
Anything under 7 and you're really gonna struggle as the majority want something special. Not a dime a dozen. "
Rubbish |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Tbh it doesn't matter how the message looks as they check the profile first. If they don't like you then your message is pointless.
And the guys that get meats on here are usually massively built and have 8 inches plus or just have a huge dick.
Anything under 7 and you're really gonna struggle as the majority want something special. Not a dime a dozen.
Most of the men that get meets on here are also good with the banter, usually have a sense of humour and dont take fab, or themselves too seriously...
Desperation is a terrible affliction "
Thats true. But how can you even tell the difference on here? |
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over a year ago
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"Tbh it doesn't matter how the message looks as they check the profile first. If they don't like you then your message is pointless.
And the guys that get meats on here are usually massively built and have 8 inches plus or just have a huge dick.
Anything under 7 and you're really gonna struggle as the majority want something special. Not a dime a dozen.
Rubbish"
How? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Tbh it doesn't matter how the message looks as they check the profile first. If they don't like you then your message is pointless.
And the guys that get meats on here are usually massively built and have 8 inches plus or just have a huge dick.
Anything under 7 and you're really gonna struggle as the majority want something special. Not a dime a dozen.
Rubbish
How? "
People want to have fun with and know that your fun not just a cock to sit on could get that anywhere |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Tbh it doesn't matter how the message looks as they check the profile first. If they don't like you then your message is pointless.
And the guys that get meats on here are usually massively built and have 8 inches plus or just have a huge dick.
Anything under 7 and you're really gonna struggle as the majority want something special. Not a dime a dozen.
Most of the men that get meets on here are also good with the banter, usually have a sense of humour and dont take fab, or themselves too seriously...
Desperation is a terrible affliction
Thats true. But how can you even tell the difference on here? "
Between what? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Tbh it doesn't matter how the message looks as they check the profile first. If they don't like you then your message is pointless.
And the guys that get meats on here are usually massively built and have 8 inches plus or just have a huge dick.
Anything under 7 and you're really gonna struggle as the majority want something special. Not a dime a dozen.
Rubbish
How?
People want to have fun with and know that your fun not just a cock to sit on could get that anywhere"
Not over 8 inch though.
A lass on here would always take a 9 inch half dick guy over a average perfect guy. Secretly a lass always loves a guy thats a dick. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Tbh it doesn't matter how the message looks as they check the profile first. If they don't like you then your message is pointless.
And the guys that get meats on here are usually massively built and have 8 inches plus or just have a huge dick.
Anything under 7 and you're really gonna struggle as the majority want something special. Not a dime a dozen. "
Ooh I don’t think that’s quite right. I’ve met lots of people that aren’t massively built or amply hung.. that sounds like sour grapes to me..
Opening messages that catch my eye are usually the ones that have actually read my profile and mention something in it.. or those that generally have a bit of banter and aren’t obsessed with themselves in the first message - what they’d like to do, what they want etc..
Just be friendly and I’m only speaking for myself here, but I don’t really appreciate a dick pic as an opener.. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Tbh it doesn't matter how the message looks as they check the profile first. If they don't like you then your message is pointless.
And the guys that get meats on here are usually massively built and have 8 inches plus or just have a huge dick.
Anything under 7 and you're really gonna struggle as the majority want something special. Not a dime a dozen.
Most of the men that get meets on here are also good with the banter, usually have a sense of humour and dont take fab, or themselves too seriously...
Desperation is a terrible affliction
Thats true. But how can you even tell the difference on here?
Between what? "
Desperation and a genuine message that I send. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Tbh it doesn't matter how the message looks as they check the profile first. If they don't like you then your message is pointless.
And the guys that get meats on here are usually massively built and have 8 inches plus or just have a huge dick.
Anything under 7 and you're really gonna struggle as the majority want something special. Not a dime a dozen.
Ooh I don’t think that’s quite right. I’ve met lots of people that aren’t massively built or amply hung.. that sounds like sour grapes to me..
Opening messages that catch my eye are usually the ones that have actually read my profile and mention something in it.. or those that generally have a bit of banter and aren’t obsessed with themselves in the first message - what they’d like to do, what they want etc..
Just be friendly and I’m only speaking for myself here, but I don’t really appreciate a dick pic as an opener.. "
I've always sent the type of message that you just meantioned and just get ignored always. I make the introduction about how mine and their interests are similar. Then go on to say that I'd be interested in..... And then go onto ask them to look at my profile and message if they feel the same. |
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By *issmorganWoman
over a year ago
Calderdale innit |
"Tbh it doesn't matter how the message looks as they check the profile first. If they don't like you then your message is pointless.
And the guys that get meats on here are usually massively built and have 8 inches plus or just have a huge dick.
Anything under 7 and you're really gonna struggle as the majority want something special. Not a dime a dozen. "
Totally disagree
I don't go for cock size at all,a good personality and being able to connect and make me laugh help though. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Tbh it doesn't matter how the message looks as they check the profile first. If they don't like you then your message is pointless.
And the guys that get meats on here are usually massively built and have 8 inches plus or just have a huge dick.
Anything under 7 and you're really gonna struggle as the majority want something special. Not a dime a dozen.
Most of the men that get meets on here are also good with the banter, usually have a sense of humour and dont take fab, or themselves too seriously...
Desperation is a terrible affliction
Thats true. But how can you even tell the difference on here?
Between what?
Desperation and a genuine message that I send. "
How do you always make other people's threads all about you... its definitely a self entitled talent you have..
I was talking about men in general, not you |
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"Tbh it doesn't matter how the message looks as they check the profile first. If they don't like you then your message is pointless.
And the guys that get meats on here are usually massively built and have 8 inches plus or just have a huge dick.
Anything under 7 and you're really gonna struggle as the majority want something special. Not a dime a dozen. "
Sweetie, we all want something special but you are way off the mark re guys who get meets all being massively built with huge dicks. There are some women who prefer the gent to be well endowed but in my reckoning, the majority are looking to fulfil fantasy with folks they click with, can laugh with and mutual respect is abundant. You’re right that profiles are often checked first but this isn’t a profile help thread.
Sometimes it’s good to step back and reassess from a distance. As has already been stated; desperation is unattractive. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Tbh it doesn't matter how the message looks as they check the profile first. If they don't like you then your message is pointless.
And the guys that get meats on here are usually massively built and have 8 inches plus or just have a huge dick.
Anything under 7 and you're really gonna struggle as the majority want something special. Not a dime a dozen.
Most of the men that get meets on here are also good with the banter, usually have a sense of humour and dont take fab, or themselves too seriously...
Desperation is a terrible affliction
Thats true. But how can you even tell the difference on here?
Between what?
Desperation and a genuine message that I send.
How do you always make other people's threads all about you... its definitely a self entitled talent you have..
I was talking about men in general, not you"
I only said I because it applies directly to me and other guys would just use that as help for them too. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Tbh it doesn't matter how the message looks as they check the profile first. If they don't like you then your message is pointless.
And the guys that get meats on here are usually massively built and have 8 inches plus or just have a huge dick.
Anything under 7 and you're really gonna struggle as the majority want something special. Not a dime a dozen. "
Do you answer a lot of ladies messages for them?
Is there a fee for this service?
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Tbh it doesn't matter how the message looks as they check the profile first. If they don't like you then your message is pointless.
And the guys that get meats on here are usually massively built and have 8 inches plus or just have a huge dick.
Anything under 7 and you're really gonna struggle as the majority want something special. Not a dime a dozen.
Sweetie, we all want something special but you are way off the mark re guys who get meets all being massively built with huge dicks. There are some women who prefer the gent to be well endowed but in my reckoning, the majority are looking to fulfil fantasy with folks they click with, can laugh with and mutual respect is abundant. You’re right that profiles are often checked first but this isn’t a profile help thread.
Sometimes it’s good to step back and reassess from a distance. As has already been stated; desperation is unattractive. "
But I'm trying to understand what comes across as desperate. |
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"Tbh it doesn't matter how the message looks as they check the profile first. If they don't like you then your message is pointless.
And the guys that get meats on here are usually massively built and have 8 inches plus or just have a huge dick.
Anything under 7 and you're really gonna struggle as the majority want something special. Not a dime a dozen.
Most of the men that get meets on here are also good with the banter, usually have a sense of humour and dont take fab, or themselves too seriously...
Desperation is a terrible affliction
Thats true. But how can you even tell the difference on here?
Between what?
Desperation and a genuine message that I send. "
I agree with the first part of your comment but not the rest, Most of the Women on here and off the site are not interested in the size of your cock, Its way down on their list of reasons for meeting/not meeting |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Tbh it doesn't matter how the message looks as they check the profile first. If they don't like you then your message is pointless.
And the guys that get meats on here are usually massively built and have 8 inches plus or just have a huge dick.
Anything under 7 and you're really gonna struggle as the majority want something special. Not a dime a dozen.
Most of the men that get meets on here are also good with the banter, usually have a sense of humour and dont take fab, or themselves too seriously...
Desperation is a terrible affliction
Thats true. But how can you even tell the difference on here?
Between what?
Desperation and a genuine message that I send.
How do you always make other people's threads all about you... its definitely a self entitled talent you have..
I was talking about men in general, not you
I only said I because it applies directly to me and other guys would just use that as help for them too. "
Ok well you need to get yourself a sense of humour and be a bit more self depreciating rather than being cocksure and confident... no one likes a bighead either |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Tbh it doesn't matter how the message looks as they check the profile first. If they don't like you then your message is pointless.
And the guys that get meats on here are usually massively built and have 8 inches plus or just have a huge dick.
Anything under 7 and you're really gonna struggle as the majority want something special. Not a dime a dozen.
Most of the men that get meets on here are also good with the banter, usually have a sense of humour and dont take fab, or themselves too seriously...
Desperation is a terrible affliction
Thats true. But how can you even tell the difference on here?
Between what?
Desperation and a genuine message that I send.
How do you always make other people's threads all about you... its definitely a self entitled talent you have..
I was talking about men in general, not you
I only said I because it applies directly to me and other guys would just use that as help for them too.
Ok well you need to get yourself a sense of humour and be a bit more self depreciating rather than being cocksure and confident... no one likes a bighead either "
If you met me you would know for a fact I am not cock sure of myself. But in reality am pretty bad at being in an intimate conversation i.e the chat up and the flirting with a lass. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Tbh it doesn't matter how the message looks as they check the profile first. If they don't like you then your message is pointless.
And the guys that get meats on here are usually massively built and have 8 inches plus or just have a huge dick.
Anything under 7 and you're really gonna struggle as the majority want something special. Not a dime a dozen.
Most of the men that get meets on here are also good with the banter, usually have a sense of humour and dont take fab, or themselves too seriously...
Desperation is a terrible affliction
Thats true. But how can you even tell the difference on here?
Between what?
Desperation and a genuine message that I send.
How do you always make other people's threads all about you... its definitely a self entitled talent you have..
I was talking about men in general, not you
I only said I because it applies directly to me and other guys would just use that as help for them too.
Ok well you need to get yourself a sense of humour and be a bit more self depreciating rather than being cocksure and confident... no one likes a bighead either
If you met me you would know for a fact I am not cock sure of myself. But in reality am pretty bad at being in an intimate conversation i.e the chat up and the flirting with a lass. "
Then if thats a weakness work on it turn it to a strength |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Tbh it doesn't matter how the message looks as they check the profile first. If they don't like you then your message is pointless.
And the guys that get meats on here are usually massively built and have 8 inches plus or just have a huge dick.
Anything under 7 and you're really gonna struggle as the majority want something special. Not a dime a dozen.
Most of the men that get meets on here are also good with the banter, usually have a sense of humour and dont take fab, or themselves too seriously...
Desperation is a terrible affliction
Thats true. But how can you even tell the difference on here?
Between what?
Desperation and a genuine message that I send.
How do you always make other people's threads all about you... its definitely a self entitled talent you have..
I was talking about men in general, not you
I only said I because it applies directly to me and other guys would just use that as help for them too.
Ok well you need to get yourself a sense of humour and be a bit more self depreciating rather than being cocksure and confident... no one likes a bighead either
If you met me you would know for a fact I am not cock sure of myself. But in reality am pretty bad at being in an intimate conversation i.e the chat up and the flirting with a lass.
Then if thats a weakness work on it turn it to a strength "
I've been 'trying' for years. Its just not doing anything. I'm kinda losing the motivation to actually try. |
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By *lue NarwhalMan
over a year ago
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Humour works best when trying to grab someone's attention, something a little odd or a bit cheesy maybe in the form of a question. It looks out of place to the usual hows you or fancy a fuck messages.
Just be original and be yourself, the fun self and see how that goes. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Tbh it doesn't matter how the message looks as they check the profile first. If they don't like you then your message is pointless.
And the guys that get meats on here are usually massively built and have 8 inches plus or just have a huge dick.
Anything under 7 and you're really gonna struggle as the majority want something special. Not a dime a dozen.
Most of the men that get meets on here are also good with the banter, usually have a sense of humour and dont take fab, or themselves too seriously...
Desperation is a terrible affliction
Thats true. But how can you even tell the difference on here?
Between what?
Desperation and a genuine message that I send.
How do you always make other people's threads all about you... its definitely a self entitled talent you have..
I was talking about men in general, not you
I only said I because it applies directly to me and other guys would just use that as help for them too.
Ok well you need to get yourself a sense of humour and be a bit more self depreciating rather than being cocksure and confident... no one likes a bighead either
If you met me you would know for a fact I am not cock sure of myself. But in reality am pretty bad at being in an intimate conversation i.e the chat up and the flirting with a lass.
Then if thats a weakness work on it turn it to a strength
I've been 'trying' for years. Its just not doing anything. I'm kinda losing the motivation to actually try. "
Can i ask if the people you message are active on the forums? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Tbh it doesn't matter how the message looks as they check the profile first. If they don't like you then your message is pointless.
And the guys that get meats on here are usually massively built and have 8 inches plus or just have a huge dick.
Anything under 7 and you're really gonna struggle as the majority want something special. Not a dime a dozen.
Most of the men that get meets on here are also good with the banter, usually have a sense of humour and dont take fab, or themselves too seriously...
Desperation is a terrible affliction
Thats true. But how can you even tell the difference on here?
Between what?
Desperation and a genuine message that I send.
How do you always make other people's threads all about you... its definitely a self entitled talent you have..
I was talking about men in general, not you
I only said I because it applies directly to me and other guys would just use that as help for them too.
Ok well you need to get yourself a sense of humour and be a bit more self depreciating rather than being cocksure and confident... no one likes a bighead either
If you met me you would know for a fact I am not cock sure of myself. But in reality am pretty bad at being in an intimate conversation i.e the chat up and the flirting with a lass.
Then if thats a weakness work on it turn it to a strength
I've been 'trying' for years. Its just not doing anything. I'm kinda losing the motivation to actually try.
Can i ask if the people you message are active on the forums? "
Not that I've seen. Why would that make a difference? |
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over a year ago
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"Tbh it doesn't matter how the message looks as they check the profile first. If they don't like you then your message is pointless.
And the guys that get meats on here are usually massively built and have 8 inches plus or just have a huge dick.
Anything under 7 and you're really gonna struggle as the majority want something special. Not a dime a dozen.
Most of the men that get meets on here are also good with the banter, usually have a sense of humour and dont take fab, or themselves too seriously...
Desperation is a terrible affliction
Thats true. But how can you even tell the difference on here?
Between what?
Desperation and a genuine message that I send.
How do you always make other people's threads all about you... its definitely a self entitled talent you have..
I was talking about men in general, not you
I only said I because it applies directly to me and other guys would just use that as help for them too.
Ok well you need to get yourself a sense of humour and be a bit more self depreciating rather than being cocksure and confident... no one likes a bighead either
If you met me you would know for a fact I am not cock sure of myself. But in reality am pretty bad at being in an intimate conversation i.e the chat up and the flirting with a lass.
Then if thats a weakness work on it turn it to a strength
I've been 'trying' for years. Its just not doing anything. I'm kinda losing the motivation to actually try.
Can i ask if the people you message are active on the forums?
Not that I've seen. Why would that make a difference? "
Well it might explain why you get no response as you can be quite argumentative on here sometimes |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Tbh it doesn't matter how the message looks as they check the profile first. If they don't like you then your message is pointless.
And the guys that get meats on here are usually massively built and have 8 inches plus or just have a huge dick.
Anything under 7 and you're really gonna struggle as the majority want something special. Not a dime a dozen.
Rubbish
How?
People want to have fun with and know that your fun not just a cock to sit on could get that anywhere
Not over 8 inch though.
A lass on here would always take a 9 inch half dick guy over a average perfect guy. Secretly a lass always loves a guy thats a dick. "
Bollox mate you been watching too much porn
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"Humour works best when trying to grab someone's attention, something a little odd or a bit cheesy maybe in the form of a question. It looks out of place to the usual hows you or fancy a fuck messages.
Just be original and be yourself, the fun self and see how that goes. "
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Tbh it doesn't matter how the message looks as they check the profile first. If they don't like you then your message is pointless.
And the guys that get meats on here are usually massively built and have 8 inches plus or just have a huge dick.
Anything under 7 and you're really gonna struggle as the majority want something special. Not a dime a dozen.
Most of the men that get meets on here are also good with the banter, usually have a sense of humour and dont take fab, or themselves too seriously...
Desperation is a terrible affliction
Thats true. But how can you even tell the difference on here?
Between what?
Desperation and a genuine message that I send.
How do you always make other people's threads all about you... its definitely a self entitled talent you have..
I was talking about men in general, not you
I only said I because it applies directly to me and other guys would just use that as help for them too.
Ok well you need to get yourself a sense of humour and be a bit more self depreciating rather than being cocksure and confident... no one likes a bighead either
If you met me you would know for a fact I am not cock sure of myself. But in reality am pretty bad at being in an intimate conversation i.e the chat up and the flirting with a lass.
Then if thats a weakness work on it turn it to a strength
I've been 'trying' for years. Its just not doing anything. I'm kinda losing the motivation to actually try.
Can i ask if the people you message are active on the forums?
Not that I've seen. Why would that make a difference?
Well it might explain why you get no response as you can be quite argumentative on here sometimes "
I wouldn't call it argumentative. I'd call it a debate. Yes I may have acted like a twat. But thats just from frustration and orher stuff thats been going on with me. |
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"Okay so 'hey how are you' is not acceptable here so I was wondering how best to start a conversation with a new person on here. I'd like some tips "
So, back to answering the OP rather than the thread being hijacked; it’s obviously different to starting a conversation face to face where attraction can be gauged easily. Perhaps start off by complimenting a profile and referring to the part that made you send a message although do try and avoid saying the very obvious ‘nice pics’ (but then again, referring to a photo that stood out for you may be acceptable but I digress!). Show your personality rather than fawning or being over familiar. Don’t follow it up with rude messages if it’s left unread (sometimes this is done deliberately to respond when there’s more time - everyone has a life!). Read profiles and ensure you match what’s being looked for if stated - there is nothing worse than being outside stated preferences as this is an obvious indicator that you’ve not read the profile. Good luck. I hope you find what you’re looking for![](/icons/s/biggrin.gif) |
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over a year ago
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"Okay so 'hey how are you' is not acceptable here so I was wondering how best to start a conversation with a new person on here. I'd like some tips
So, back to answering the OP rather than the thread being hijacked; it’s obviously different to starting a conversation face to face where attraction can be gauged easily. Perhaps start off by complimenting a profile and referring to the part that made you send a message although do try and avoid saying the very obvious ‘nice pics’ (but then again, referring to a photo that stood out for you may be acceptable but I digress!). Show your personality rather than fawning or being over familiar. Don’t follow it up with rude messages if it’s left unread (sometimes this is done deliberately to respond when there’s more time - everyone has a life!). Read profiles and ensure you match what’s being looked for if stated - there is nothing worse than being outside stated preferences as this is an obvious indicator that you’ve not read the profile. Good luck. I hope you find what you’re looking for "
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over a year ago
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"Okay so 'hey how are you' is not acceptable here so I was wondering how best to start a conversation with a new person on here. I'd like some tips
So, back to answering the OP rather than the thread being hijacked; it’s obviously different to starting a conversation face to face where attraction can be gauged easily. Perhaps start off by complimenting a profile and referring to the part that made you send a message although do try and avoid saying the very obvious ‘nice pics’ (but then again, referring to a photo that stood out for you may be acceptable but I digress!). Show your personality rather than fawning or being over familiar. Don’t follow it up with rude messages if it’s left unread (sometimes this is done deliberately to respond when there’s more time - everyone has a life!). Read profiles and ensure you match what’s being looked for if stated - there is nothing worse than being outside stated preferences as this is an obvious indicator that you’ve not read the profile. Good luck. I hope you find what you’re looking for "
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over a year ago
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"Okay so 'hey how are you' is not acceptable here so I was wondering how best to start a conversation with a new person on here. I'd like some tips
So, back to answering the OP rather than the thread being hijacked; it’s obviously different to starting a conversation face to face where attraction can be gauged easily. Perhaps start off by complimenting a profile and referring to the part that made you send a message although do try and avoid saying the very obvious ‘nice pics’ (but then again, referring to a photo that stood out for you may be acceptable but I digress!). Show your personality rather than fawning or being over familiar. Don’t follow it up with rude messages if it’s left unread (sometimes this is done deliberately to respond when there’s more time - everyone has a life!). Read profiles and ensure you match what’s being looked for if stated - there is nothing worse than being outside stated preferences as this is an obvious indicator that you’ve not read the profile. Good luck. I hope you find what you’re looking for
I've literally done all of that and still have nothing. Maybe they just hate me as a person or the way I look. "
I've said this before to you.
Turn the keyboard off
Stop whining
Go outside look at the world.
It's big there are lots if people there.
And you are young and in a student city.
Go and fking enjoy it ...
And life. You only get the one chance at it. |
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over a year ago
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"Okay so 'hey how are you' is not acceptable here so I was wondering how best to start a conversation with a new person on here. I'd like some tips
So, back to answering the OP rather than the thread being hijacked; it’s obviously different to starting a conversation face to face where attraction can be gauged easily. Perhaps start off by complimenting a profile and referring to the part that made you send a message although do try and avoid saying the very obvious ‘nice pics’ (but then again, referring to a photo that stood out for you may be acceptable but I digress!). Show your personality rather than fawning or being over familiar. Don’t follow it up with rude messages if it’s left unread (sometimes this is done deliberately to respond when there’s more time - everyone has a life!). Read profiles and ensure you match what’s being looked for if stated - there is nothing worse than being outside stated preferences as this is an obvious indicator that you’ve not read the profile. Good luck. I hope you find what you’re looking for
I've literally done all of that and still have nothing. Maybe they just hate me as a person or the way I look.
I've said this before to you.
Turn the keyboard off
Stop whining
Go outside look at the world.
It's big there are lots if people there.
And you are young and in a student city.
Go and fking enjoy it ...
And life. You only get the one chance at it."
1) I don't enjoy my life
2) I have no social life |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Okay so 'hey how are you' is not acceptable here so I was wondering how best to start a conversation with a new person on here. I'd like some tips
So, back to answering the OP rather than the thread being hijacked; it’s obviously different to starting a conversation face to face where attraction can be gauged easily. Perhaps start off by complimenting a profile and referring to the part that made you send a message although do try and avoid saying the very obvious ‘nice pics’ (but then again, referring to a photo that stood out for you may be acceptable but I digress!). Show your personality rather than fawning or being over familiar. Don’t follow it up with rude messages if it’s left unread (sometimes this is done deliberately to respond when there’s more time - everyone has a life!). Read profiles and ensure you match what’s being looked for if stated - there is nothing worse than being outside stated preferences as this is an obvious indicator that you’ve not read the profile. Good luck. I hope you find what you’re looking for
I've literally done all of that and still have nothing. Maybe they just hate me as a person or the way I look.
I've said this before to you.
Turn the keyboard off
Stop whining
Go outside look at the world.
It's big there are lots if people there.
And you are young and in a student city.
Go and fking enjoy it ...
And life. You only get the one chance at it.
1) I don't enjoy my life
2) I have no social life"
Then change it. Only you can.
And whining on here will change nothing for you |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Okay so 'hey how are you' is not acceptable here so I was wondering how best to start a conversation with a new person on here. I'd like some tips
So, back to answering the OP rather than the thread being hijacked; it’s obviously different to starting a conversation face to face where attraction can be gauged easily. Perhaps start off by complimenting a profile and referring to the part that made you send a message although do try and avoid saying the very obvious ‘nice pics’ (but then again, referring to a photo that stood out for you may be acceptable but I digress!). Show your personality rather than fawning or being over familiar. Don’t follow it up with rude messages if it’s left unread (sometimes this is done deliberately to respond when there’s more time - everyone has a life!). Read profiles and ensure you match what’s being looked for if stated - there is nothing worse than being outside stated preferences as this is an obvious indicator that you’ve not read the profile. Good luck. I hope you find what you’re looking for
I've literally done all of that and still have nothing. Maybe they just hate me as a person or the way I look.
I've said this before to you.
Turn the keyboard off
Stop whining
Go outside look at the world.
It's big there are lots if people there.
And you are young and in a student city.
Go and fking enjoy it ...
And life. You only get the one chance at it.
1) I don't enjoy my life
2) I have no social life
Then change it. Only you can.
And whining on here will change nothing for you"
I have literally tried over and over and its just failed everytime. |
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"Tbh it doesn't matter how the message looks as they check the profile first. If they don't like you then your message is pointless.
And the guys that get meats on here are usually massively built and have 8 inches plus or just have a huge dick.
Anything under 7 and you're really gonna struggle as the majority want something special. Not a dime a dozen. "
Hmmmmmmmm.
Look at my profile.
Look at my physique.
Look at my pics.
Look at my meet verifications.
Patently your perception is nonsense.
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By *andm_69Couple
over a year ago
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"Okay so 'hey how are you' is not acceptable here so I was wondering how best to start a conversation with a new person on here. I'd like some tips
So, back to answering the OP rather than the thread being hijacked; it’s obviously different to starting a conversation face to face where attraction can be gauged easily. Perhaps start off by complimenting a profile and referring to the part that made you send a message although do try and avoid saying the very obvious ‘nice pics’ (but then again, referring to a photo that stood out for you may be acceptable but I digress!). Show your personality rather than fawning or being over familiar. Don’t follow it up with rude messages if it’s left unread (sometimes this is done deliberately to respond when there’s more time - everyone has a life!). Read profiles and ensure you match what’s being looked for if stated - there is nothing worse than being outside stated preferences as this is an obvious indicator that you’ve not read the profile. Good luck. I hope you find what you’re looking for
I've literally done all of that and still have nothing. Maybe they just hate me as a person or the way I look.
I've said this before to you.
Turn the keyboard off
Stop whining
Go outside look at the world.
It's big there are lots if people there.
And you are young and in a student city.
Go and fking enjoy it ...
And life. You only get the one chance at it.
1) I don't enjoy my life
2) I have no social life
Then change it. Only you can.
And whining on here will change nothing for you
I have literally tried over and over and its just failed everytime. "
Obviously haven't tried hard enough |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Okay so 'hey how are you' is not acceptable here so I was wondering how best to start a conversation with a new person on here. I'd like some tips
So, back to answering the OP rather than the thread being hijacked; it’s obviously different to starting a conversation face to face where attraction can be gauged easily. Perhaps start off by complimenting a profile and referring to the part that made you send a message although do try and avoid saying the very obvious ‘nice pics’ (but then again, referring to a photo that stood out for you may be acceptable but I digress!). Show your personality rather than fawning or being over familiar. Don’t follow it up with rude messages if it’s left unread (sometimes this is done deliberately to respond when there’s more time - everyone has a life!). Read profiles and ensure you match what’s being looked for if stated - there is nothing worse than being outside stated preferences as this is an obvious indicator that you’ve not read the profile. Good luck. I hope you find what you’re looking for
I've literally done all of that and still have nothing. Maybe they just hate me as a person or the way I look.
I've said this before to you.
Turn the keyboard off
Stop whining
Go outside look at the world.
It's big there are lots if people there.
And you are young and in a student city.
Go and fking enjoy it ...
And life. You only get the one chance at it.
1) I don't enjoy my life
2) I have no social life
Then change it. Only you can.
And whining on here will change nothing for you
I have literally tried over and over and its just failed everytime.
Obviously haven't tried hard enough"
How would you know?
I talk to loads of people at the gym.
I've literally always been that guy thats been a loner surrounded by people. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Seriously just a
Hey hows your day going?
As with me iv already looked at your profile before opening the message so have made up my mind before a key is pressed ![](/icons/s/cool.gif) |
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over a year ago
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"Seriously just a
Hey hows your day going?
As with me iv already looked at your profile before opening the message so have made up my mind before a key is pressed "
Thank you. Someone who is genuinely honest.
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" We love being asked “what are you up to” and the all time regular classic statement “I’d love to fuck your mrs”. It makes for a fabtastic day "
So I suppose "Boom shanka...May the seed of your loins be fruitful in the
belly of your woman.." won't work either ![](/icons/s/2/cute.gif) |
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" We love being asked “what are you up to” and the all time regular classic statement “I’d love to fuck your mrs”. It makes for a fabtastic day
So I suppose "Boom shanka...May the seed of your loins be fruitful in the
belly of your woman.." won't work either "
We gave you a crap insult on here to get your attention and that worked so you never know ![](/icons/s/2/cute.gif) |
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" We love being asked “what are you up to” and the all time regular classic statement “I’d love to fuck your mrs”. It makes for a fabtastic day
So I suppose "Boom shanka...May the seed of your loins be fruitful in the
belly of your woman.." won't work either
We gave you a crap insult on here to get your attention and that worked so you never know "
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Okay so 'hey how are you' is not acceptable here so I was wondering how best to start a conversation with a new person on here. I'd like some tips
So, back to answering the OP rather than the thread being hijacked; it’s obviously different to starting a conversation face to face where attraction can be gauged easily. Perhaps start off by complimenting a profile and referring to the part that made you send a message although do try and avoid saying the very obvious ‘nice pics’ (but then again, referring to a photo that stood out for you may be acceptable but I digress!). Show your personality rather than fawning or being over familiar. Don’t follow it up with rude messages if it’s left unread (sometimes this is done deliberately to respond when there’s more time - everyone has a life!). Read profiles and ensure you match what’s being looked for if stated - there is nothing worse than being outside stated preferences as this is an obvious indicator that you’ve not read the profile. Good luck. I hope you find what you’re looking for
I've literally done all of that and still have nothing. Maybe they just hate me as a person or the way I look.
I've said this before to you.
Turn the keyboard off
Stop whining
Go outside look at the world.
It's big there are lots if people there.
And you are young and in a student city.
Go and fking enjoy it ...
And life. You only get the one chance at it.
1) I don't enjoy my life
2) I have no social life
Then change it. Only you can.
And whining on here will change nothing for you
I have literally tried over and over and its just failed everytime. "
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Okay so 'hey how are you' is not acceptable here so I was wondering how best to start a conversation with a new person on here. I'd like some tips
So, back to answering the OP rather than the thread being hijacked; it’s obviously different to starting a conversation face to face where attraction can be gauged easily. Perhaps start off by complimenting a profile and referring to the part that made you send a message although do try and avoid saying the very obvious ‘nice pics’ (but then again, referring to a photo that stood out for you may be acceptable but I digress!). Show your personality rather than fawning or being over familiar. Don’t follow it up with rude messages if it’s left unread (sometimes this is done deliberately to respond when there’s more time - everyone has a life!). Read profiles and ensure you match what’s being looked for if stated - there is nothing worse than being outside stated preferences as this is an obvious indicator that you’ve not read the profile. Good luck. I hope you find what you’re looking for
I've literally done all of that and still have nothing. Maybe they just hate me as a person or the way I look.
I've said this before to you.
Turn the keyboard off
Stop whining
Go outside look at the world.
It's big there are lots if people there.
And you are young and in a student city.
Go and fking enjoy it ...
And life. You only get the one chance at it.
1) I don't enjoy my life
2) I have no social life
Then change it. Only you can.
And whining on here will change nothing for you
I have literally tried over and over and its just failed everytime.
Self pity is such a turn on for women. "
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over a year ago
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"Tbh it doesn't matter how the message looks as they check the profile first. If they don't like you then your message is pointless.
And the guys that get meats on here are usually massively built and have 8 inches plus or just have a huge dick.
Anything under 7 and you're really gonna struggle as the majority want something special. Not a dime a dozen. "
After taking a look at your profile, only thing to put us off is your age.
That and how you're putting yourself across in this thread. ![](/icons/s/confused.gif) |
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over a year ago
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"Tbh it doesn't matter how the message looks as they check the profile first. If they don't like you then your message is pointless.
And the guys that get meats on here are usually massively built and have 8 inches plus or just have a huge dick.
Anything under 7 and you're really gonna struggle as the majority want something special. Not a dime a dozen.
After taking a look at your profile, only thing to put us off is your age.
That and how you're putting yourself across in this thread. "
I'm sorry. I'm not in a great place at the moment and its just me being a dick and lashing out.
I'm glad you like me profile though. Thanks. |
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over a year ago
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"Okay so 'hey how are you' is not acceptable here so I was wondering how best to start a conversation with a new person on here. I'd like some tips
So, back to answering the OP rather than the thread being hijacked; it’s obviously different to starting a conversation face to face where attraction can be gauged easily. Perhaps start off by complimenting a profile and referring to the part that made you send a message although do try and avoid saying the very obvious ‘nice pics’ (but then again, referring to a photo that stood out for you may be acceptable but I digress!). Show your personality rather than fawning or being over familiar. Don’t follow it up with rude messages if it’s left unread (sometimes this is done deliberately to respond when there’s more time - everyone has a life!). Read profiles and ensure you match what’s being looked for if stated - there is nothing worse than being outside stated preferences as this is an obvious indicator that you’ve not read the profile. Good luck. I hope you find what you’re looking for
I've literally done all of that and still have nothing. Maybe they just hate me as a person or the way I look.
I've said this before to you.
Turn the keyboard off
Stop whining
Go outside look at the world.
It's big there are lots if people there.
And you are young and in a student city.
Go and fking enjoy it ...
And life. You only get the one chance at it.
1) I don't enjoy my life
2) I have no social life
Then change it. Only you can.
And whining on here will change nothing for you
I have literally tried over and over and its just failed everytime.
Self pity is such a turn on for women.
How is loss of interest self pitty? "
Your general approach in the forum is to feel sorry for yourself. This is a bigger turn off for women than anything else. |
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over a year ago
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"Tbh it doesn't matter how the message looks as they check the profile first. If they don't like you then your message is pointless.
And the guys that get meats on here are usually massively built and have 8 inches plus or just have a huge dick.
Anything under 7 and you're really gonna struggle as the majority want something special. Not a dime a dozen.
Most of the men that get meets on here are also good with the banter, usually have a sense of humour and dont take fab, or themselves too seriously...
Desperation is a terrible affliction
Thats true. But how can you even tell the difference on here?
Between what?
Desperation and a genuine message that I send.
How do you always make other people's threads all about you... its definitely a self entitled talent you have..
I was talking about men in general, not you"
Because he makes a point and 5 people disagree with him and question him about it. It's only natural he responds x |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Tbh it doesn't matter how the message looks as they check the profile first. If they don't like you then your message is pointless.
And the guys that get meats on here are usually massively built and have 8 inches plus or just have a huge dick.
Anything under 7 and you're really gonna struggle as the majority want something special. Not a dime a dozen.
Most of the men that get meets on here are also good with the banter, usually have a sense of humour and dont take fab, or themselves too seriously...
Desperation is a terrible affliction
Thats true. But how can you even tell the difference on here?
Between what?
Desperation and a genuine message that I send.
How do you always make other people's threads all about you... its definitely a self entitled talent you have..
I was talking about men in general, not you
Because he makes a point and 5 people disagree with him and question him about it. It's only natural he responds x"
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"Tbh it doesn't matter how the message looks as they check the profile first. If they don't like you then your message is pointless.
And the guys that get meats on here are usually massively built and have 8 inches plus or just have a huge dick.
Anything under 7 and you're really gonna struggle as the majority want something special. Not a dime a dozen. "
Not true, you need to lighten up, men just need to read profiles, be polite and have a normal conversation. We don't care about the size of your cock, more the size of your brain.
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over a year ago
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"Tbh it doesn't matter how the message looks as they check the profile first. If they don't like you then your message is pointless.
And the guys that get meats on here are usually massively built and have 8 inches plus or just have a huge dick.
Anything under 7 and you're really gonna struggle as the majority want something special. Not a dime a dozen.
Not true, you need to lighten up, men just need to read profiles, be polite and have a normal conversation. We don't care about the size of your cock, more the size of your brain.
"
I do and in this thread I've been told I have a great profile |
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over a year ago
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In all honesty, the profile is the first port of call. If that is great, then the message comes secondary. Most will look at a profile, before opening a message. The trick is, to make the initial line stand out, to get someone to want to look at the profile. Make the line personal to the one you're messaging ![](/icons/s/biggrin.gif) |
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"Tbh it doesn't matter how the message looks as they check the profile first. If they don't like you then your message is pointless.
And the guys that get meats on here are usually massively built and have 8 inches plus or just have a huge dick.
Anything under 7 and you're really gonna struggle as the majority want something special. Not a dime a dozen.
Not true, you need to lighten up, men just need to read profiles, be polite and have a normal conversation. We don't care about the size of your cock, more the size of your brain.
I do and in this thread I've been told I have a great profile "
I think we read that post differently... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Okay so 'hey how are you' is not acceptable here so I was wondering how best to start a conversation with a new person on here. I'd like some tips "
Make a reference to their profile, so they know you've read it and aren't just sending a generic cut & paste message. Be witty, be polite. Don't send a cock pic! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Tbh it doesn't matter how the message looks as they check the profile first. If they don't like you then your message is pointless.
And the guys that get meats on here are usually massively built and have 8 inches plus or just have a huge dick.
Anything under 7 and you're really gonna struggle as the majority want something special. Not a dime a dozen.
Not true, you need to lighten up, men just need to read profiles, be polite and have a normal conversation. We don't care about the size of your cock, more the size of your brain.
I do and in this thread I've been told I have a great profile
I think we read that post differently..."
How so?
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over a year ago
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"Tbh it doesn't matter how the message looks as they check the profile first. If they don't like you then your message is pointless.
And the guys that get meats on here are usually massively built and have 8 inches plus or just have a huge dick.
Anything under 7 and you're really gonna struggle as the majority want something special. Not a dime a dozen.
Not true, you need to lighten up, men just need to read profiles, be polite and have a normal conversation. We don't care about the size of your cock, more the size of your brain.
"
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"Okay so 'hey how are you' is not acceptable here so I was wondering how best to start a conversation with a new person on here. I'd like some tips "
When I (Mr) was on a similar site and single I once sent a lady a message with "can I have a biscuit please?" In the title box.
My first line of the message was "I've put the seat down and changed the toilet role!"
I then briefly described myself before asking about her and her interests having read her profile. Lastly she had a photo and the sun was coming in and throwing a shadow on her hair. I thought it looked nice so I told her so.
I got a reply saying "No biscuit till you learn to put the lid down as well and did you miss my breasts?"
We became great friend's.
What I am trying to say is be natural, be honest, be interested in them and be interesting. |
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"Tbh it doesn't matter how the message looks as they check the profile first. If they don't like you then your message is pointless.
And the guys that get meats on here are usually massively built and have 8 inches plus or just have a huge dick.
Anything under 7 and you're really gonna struggle as the majority want something special. Not a dime a dozen.
Not true, you need to lighten up, men just need to read profiles, be polite and have a normal conversation. We don't care about the size of your cock, more the size of your brain.
I do and in this thread I've been told I have a great profile "
That's because most of us helped you write it. ![](/icons/s/wink.gif) ![](/icons/s/wink.gif) ![](/icons/s/wink.gif) ![](/icons/s/wink.gif) |
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If I message someone it’s loosely based on my profile, with a wee bit added tailored to the recipient if there’s something I can piggy back from their profile. Still mostly gets deleted or ignored, or just lost in the inbox amongst all the crude one liner and dick pic messages.
But every once in a while when someone likes it, they tend to like it a lot and I’ve been fortunate and had a few meets now. |
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"Okay so 'hey how are you' is not acceptable here so I was wondering how best to start a conversation with a new person on here. I'd like some tips
When I (Mr) was on a similar site and single I once sent a lady a message with "can I have a biscuit please?" In the title box.
My first line of the message was "I've put the seat down and changed the toilet role!"
I then briefly described myself before asking about her and her interests having read her profile. Lastly she had a photo and the sun was coming in and throwing a shadow on her hair. I thought it looked nice so I told her so.
I got a reply saying "No biscuit till you learn to put the lid down as well and did you miss my breasts?"
We became great friend's.
What I am trying to say is be natural, be honest, be interested in them and be interesting. "
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"Okay so 'hey how are you' is not acceptable here so I was wondering how best to start a conversation with a new person on here. I'd like some tips
When I (Mr) was on a similar site and single I once sent a lady a message with "can I have a biscuit please?" In the title box.
My first line of the message was "I've put the seat down and changed the toilet role!"
I then briefly described myself before asking about her and her interests having read her profile. Lastly she had a photo and the sun was coming in and throwing a shadow on her hair. I thought it looked nice so I told her so.
I got a reply saying "No biscuit till you learn to put the lid down as well and did you miss my breasts?"
We became great friend's.
What I am trying to say is be natural, be honest, be interested in them and be interesting.
Humour.... That usually gets me replying "
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"Tbh it doesn't matter how the message looks as they check the profile first. If they don't like you then your message is pointless.
And the guys that get meats on here are usually massively built and have 8 inches plus or just have a huge dick.
Anything under 7 and you're really gonna struggle as the majority want something special. Not a dime a dozen.
Ooh I don’t think that’s quite right. I’ve met lots of people that aren’t massively built or amply hung.. that sounds like sour grapes to me..
Opening messages that catch my eye are usually the ones that have actually read my profile and mention something in it.. or those that generally have a bit of banter and aren’t obsessed with themselves in the first message - what they’d like to do, what they want etc..
Just be friendly and I’m only speaking for myself here, but I don’t really appreciate a dick pic as an opener..
I've always sent the type of message that you just meantioned and just get ignored always. I make the introduction about how mine and their interests are similar. Then go on to say that I'd be interested in..... And then go onto ask them to look at my profile and message if they feel the same. "
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"Tbh it doesn't matter how the message looks as they check the profile first. If they don't like you then your message is pointless.
And the guys that get meats on here are usually massively built and have 8 inches plus or just have a huge dick.
Anything under 7 and you're really gonna struggle as the majority want something special. Not a dime a dozen.
Ooh I don’t think that’s quite right. I’ve met lots of people that aren’t massively built or amply hung.. that sounds like sour grapes to me..
Opening messages that catch my eye are usually the ones that have actually read my profile and mention something in it.. or those that generally have a bit of banter and aren’t obsessed with themselves in the first message - what they’d like to do, what they want etc..
Just be friendly and I’m only speaking for myself here, but I don’t really appreciate a dick pic as an opener..
I've always sent the type of message that you just meantioned and just get ignored always. I make the introduction about how mine and their interests are similar. Then go on to say that I'd be interested in..... And then go onto ask them to look at my profile and message if they feel the same.
Don't try so hard, if they like you they'll come to you. Just be ready for when they do"
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"Tbh it doesn't matter how the message looks as they check the profile first. If they don't like you then your message is pointless.
And the guys that get meats on here are usually massively built and have 8 inches plus or just have a huge dick.
Anything under 7 and you're really gonna struggle as the majority want something special. Not a dime a dozen.
Ooh I don’t think that’s quite right. I’ve met lots of people that aren’t massively built or amply hung.. that sounds like sour grapes to me..
Opening messages that catch my eye are usually the ones that have actually read my profile and mention something in it.. or those that generally have a bit of banter and aren’t obsessed with themselves in the first message - what they’d like to do, what they want etc..
Just be friendly and I’m only speaking for myself here, but I don’t really appreciate a dick pic as an opener..
I've always sent the type of message that you just meantioned and just get ignored always. I make the introduction about how mine and their interests are similar. Then go on to say that I'd be interested in..... And then go onto ask them to look at my profile and message if they feel the same.
Don't try so hard, if they like you they'll come to you. Just be ready for when they do"
Wishful thinking is a good tactic, But a nieve one. The guy alwas has to chase. |
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"Tbh it doesn't matter how the message looks as they check the profile first. If they don't like you then your message is pointless.
And the guys that get meats on here are usually massively built and have 8 inches plus or just have a huge dick.
Anything under 7 and you're really gonna struggle as the majority want something special. Not a dime a dozen.
Ooh I don’t think that’s quite right. I’ve met lots of people that aren’t massively built or amply hung.. that sounds like sour grapes to me..
Opening messages that catch my eye are usually the ones that have actually read my profile and mention something in it.. or those that generally have a bit of banter and aren’t obsessed with themselves in the first message - what they’d like to do, what they want etc..
Just be friendly and I’m only speaking for myself here, but I don’t really appreciate a dick pic as an opener..
I've always sent the type of message that you just meantioned and just get ignored always. I make the introduction about how mine and their interests are similar. Then go on to say that I'd be interested in..... And then go onto ask them to look at my profile and message if they feel the same.
Don't try so hard, if they like you they'll come to you. Just be ready for when they do
Wishful thinking is a good tactic, But a nieve one. The guy alwas has to chase. "
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