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I know it's been said before, but I think it's a good idea to charge for single men. As we know there are far to many men all trying to get in and not standing a chance..so many have complained about it me included. I am now just here to read the forum and see any local events. Being a single guy makes it almost impossible. But if we had to pay it will cut the numbers down a bit so we may stand a little chance  |
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"I know it's been said before, but I think it's a good idea to charge for single men. As we know there are far to many men all trying to get in and not standing a chance..so many have complained about it me included. I am now just here to read the forum and see any local events. Being a single guy makes it almost impossible. But if we had to pay it will cut the numbers down a bit so we may stand a little chance "
If single men had to pay more on here than everyone else there would be even more single men hiding behind couple or single female profiles! Why should they pay more ?? |
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"I know it's been said before, but I think it's a good idea to charge for single men. As we know there are far to many men all trying to get in and not standing a chance..so many have complained about it me included. I am now just here to read the forum and see any local events. Being a single guy makes it almost impossible. But if we had to pay it will cut the numbers down a bit so we may stand a little chance this
If single men had to pay more on here than everyone else there would be even more single men hiding behind couple or single female profiles! Why should they pay more ?? "
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"I know it's been said before, but I think it's a good idea to charge for single men. As we know there are far to many men all trying to get in and not standing a chance..so many have complained about it me included. I am now just here to read the forum and see any local events. Being a single guy makes it almost impossible. But if we had to pay it will cut the numbers down a bit so we may stand a little chance "
Up your game and put yourself out there. If you’re just here for the forums I don’t get why you’d like to pay more. The site supporter fee eliminates a lot of messers
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paid sites are full of plenty of fakes too...it's a pointlees idea...it would more likley produce more as theyd make female profiles to get around it anyway. |
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"paid sites are full of plenty of fakes too...it's a pointlees idea...it would more likley produce more as theyd make female profiles to get around it anyway."
I agree, before I came on here I was on another site with a monthly fee. I had tons of messages from beautiful women. It didn’t take lol by to work out 99% were scammers. Then someone suggested fab and I haven’t looked back. Keep fab the way it is I say. I’ve been lucky enough to meet some amazing people in the 5 years I’ve been on and off here. If it’s not working for you then man up and raise your game
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I already have enough money going out as it is which is why I'm not a site supporter anymore. Twelve quid for three months is pretty good to be fair, but when you don't have it it's quite a lot of money. So I'd hate actually having to pay a premium just to be on the site because I mostly spend my time on the forums now. I still send messages out, but the forums is what I come for. |
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The only reason why I say it is because ever since I been a member here apart from my break..is so many men and including myself have been told there are too many men to women, and seen all the replys about uping your game, write nicer messages, and yet no matter what you do or try messages still get deleted. And this is by all kinds of men from young attractive men who are polite.
This is not complaining just saying..it's hard to stand out in the crowd when you lost in the crowd 
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I think if your going to charge, the charge should be minimal and applied to everyone. Most of these sites target single men..... Why, why not single women, why not couples, why not transgender. I've never understood the whole "Let's charge a single man" policy |
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"The only reason why I say it is because ever since I been a member here apart from my break..is so many men and including myself have been told there are too many men to women, and seen all the replys about uping your game, write nicer messages, and yet no matter what you do or try messages still get deleted. And this is by all kinds of men from young attractive men who are polite.
This is not complaining just saying..it's hard to stand out in the crowd when you lost in the crowd
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Join a gym. Get a tan, attend socials and clubs. Be positive mate.
I don’t think introducing added charges will help anyone’s situation |
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"paid sites are full of plenty of fakes too...it's a pointlees idea...it would more likley produce more as theyd make female profiles to get around it anyway. I agree, before I came on here I was on another site with a monthly fee. I had tons of messages from beautiful women. It didn’t take lol by to work out 99% were scammers. Then someone suggested fab and I haven’t looked back. Keep fab the way it is I say. I’ve been lucky enough to meet some amazing people in the 5 years I’ve been on and off here. If it’s not working for you then man up and raise your game "
How do you raise your game ? When I have tried so many diffent ways to message women. I can't take my account to be a man i am not like have a photo with a 6 pack or have photos without my face or no photos at all because these messages get deleted too. I have tried for almost a year sent more messages then I remember and non was pushy and all polite. What else can we do to "raise your game" ? |
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"paid sites are full of plenty of fakes too...it's a pointlees idea...it would more likley produce more as theyd make female profiles to get around it anyway. I agree, before I came on here I was on another site with a monthly fee. I had tons of messages from beautiful women. It didn’t take lol by to work out 99% were scammers. Then someone suggested fab and I haven’t looked back. Keep fab the way it is I say. I’ve been lucky enough to meet some amazing people in the 5 years I’ve been on and off here. If it’s not working for you then man up and raise your game
How do you raise your game ? When I have tried so many diffent ways to message women. I can't take my account to be a man i am not like have a photo with a 6 pack or have photos without my face or no photos at all because these messages get deleted too. I have tried for almost a year sent more messages then I remember and non was pushy and all polite. What else can we do to "raise your game" ?"
I'd give up trying then, clearly not working for you |
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I disagree that men should have to pay to be on Fab. I was on another site that men paid £30 a month for and women were free. There were plenty of time wasters and dreamers on there in the man department store. Maybe the filters could be raised for newbies contacting a member from the current few days. XXX |
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I have stopped messaging women now , after sending 4 messages all to be deleted the following day. I say why bother.
I am just not there type it's simple as that. Sadly I do not have a car to travel outside of the Midlands. There are no women in the Midlands that I fit their needs. It's just the way it is |
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"I have stopped messaging women now , after sending 4 messages all to be deleted the following day. I say why bother.
I am just not there type it's simple as that. Sadly I do not have a car to travel outside of the Midlands. There are no women in the Midlands that I fit their needs. It's just the way it is "
You don't travel out of the midlands but you go to Bulgaria 4 months of the year  |
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"I have stopped messaging women now , after sending 4 messages all to be deleted the following day. I say why bother.
I am just not there type it's simple as that. Sadly I do not have a car to travel outside of the Midlands. There are no women in the Midlands that I fit their needs. It's just the way it is "
There are loads of women in the Midlands |
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"I have stopped messaging women now , after sending 4 messages all to be deleted the following day. I say why bother.
I am just not there type it's simple as that. Sadly I do not have a car to travel outside of the Midlands. There are no women in the Midlands that I fit their needs. It's just the way it is "
Maybe what you said in your messages wasn’t what they were hoping for. I always think a smile goes a long way. |
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"I have stopped messaging women now , after sending 4 messages all to be deleted the following day. I say why bother.
I am just not there type it's simple as that. Sadly I do not have a car to travel outside of the Midlands. There are no women in the Midlands that I fit their needs. It's just the way it is "
i don't understand why that would be affected by charging single men though? |
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" You don't travel out of the midlands but you go to Bulgaria 4 months of the year
I did don't do that no more plus that was diffent it was family reasons. "
If it was just for family reasons and you couldn't meet up out there it's not relevant to your profile and isn't worth keeping it written on your profile if you don't do that at all now.
Up date your profile to what's happening or you want to happen in your life right now or stop complaining!
I don't see why all men should have to be penalised because you're struggling on here |
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" i don't understand why that would be affected by charging single men though?"
Because I been told and read other posts in the past that women get far to many messages by men.
I do smiles in my messages.
I quote what I read in their profiles to prove that I have spent time to read it.
I am polite with what I write.
I leave it short not too long that they will get bored or to short like "hi you cute shall we meet up" I try to put more thought into then that..I am not a great writer especally when I do not know someone is different when you been chatting for awhile..but it's not possible to get to that stage.
In my messages I have never been pushy never expected sex on first time or if at all..just to start off with a chat before even trying to meet up for a social drink.
Nope it must be me I do not have the looks or the body and too damn hairy and no not going to keep shaving all the time...it takes ages and once I had ingrown hair in my back and it was painful.
I could delete any photos that don't show my face. At least I might stand more of a chance.
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"Your right OP....
It's been said before. With almost daily regularity
And it made just as little sense as today"
Are you not been answering the territory of escorting and prostitution if I go to an event I don't want guys to have paid to be there |
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"Blimey, OP! Cheer up! None of your photos show you smiling and a couple of them are really good. Have you been to a social? Then you can talk and not have to rely on messaging. "
Those photos I was smiling I am not going to paint a joker smile on my face lol
Can't take a photo of what I don't have.
I do go the attic but again in the same boat...single guy in a place where there is a lot of single guys it's extremely hard to strike up a conversation as people tend to go in pairs, groups or meet up with people that they already friends with and they don't talk to single guys. Saying that I do have a good time there..not amazing but still fun.
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"Your right OP....
It's been said before. With almost daily regularity
And it made just as little sense as today
Are you not been answering the territory of escorting and prostitution if I go to an event I don't want guys to have paid to be there"
Quite agree. OP seems to have inferred if there were less single guys his chances of getting a shag would improve. His post does smack of a sense of entitlement or that if he pays its a candy store where he can get what he pays for!!!
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"Blimey, OP! Cheer up! None of your photos show you smiling and a couple of them are really good. Have you been to a social? Then you can talk and not have to rely on messaging.
Those photos I was smiling I am not going to paint a joker smile on my face lol
Can't take a photo of what I don't have.
I do go the attic but again in the same boat...single guy in a place where there is a lot of single guys it's extremely hard to strike up a conversation as people tend to go in pairs, groups or meet up with people that they already friends with and they don't talk to single guys. Saying that I do have a good time there..not amazing but still fun.
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The two beach photos were the best. I’m sorry, I didn’t realise you were smiling. You go to the Attic so that’s good. My friend Andrew got booted out of a club (not the attic) for constantly humming ‘The Dambusters’ theme and speaking as if he was in a Lancaster saying ‘tally ho, chaps’ in the dark room. |
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I was once a single man on here and met miss Geeky here who is now my MrsGeeky if there was a paywall then I would never have been here and I never would have met my now wife so no men shouldn’t pay more than women
Besides if that’s what you want there’s plenty of sites out there like that
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"I was once a single man on here and met miss Geeky here who is now my MrsGeeky if there was a paywall then I would never have been here and I never would have met my now wife so no men shouldn’t pay more than women
Besides if that’s what you want there’s plenty of sites out there like that
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"I know it's been said before, but I think it's a good idea to charge for single men. As we know there are far to many men all trying to get in and not standing a chance..so many have complained about it me included. I am now just here to read the forum and see any local events. Being a single guy makes it almost impossible. But if we had to pay it will cut the numbers down a bit so we may stand a little chance "
i disagree. The site has many tools one being the forumsm there is a meets and party section and a club section. Get yourself to socials. Your not a bad looking guy soon as you manage to get your name known as a good decent guy doors will open. It takes time to get your fave known and nobody likes a negative nelly |
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" i don't understand why that would be affected by charging single men though?
Because I been told and read other posts in the past that women get far to many messages by men.
I do smiles in my messages.
I quote what I read in their profiles to prove that I have spent time to read it.
I am polite with what I write.
I leave it short not too long that they will get bored or to short like "hi you cute shall we meet up" I try to put more thought into then that..I am not a great writer especally when I do not know someone is different when you been chatting for awhile..but it's not possible to get to that stage.
In my messages I have never been pushy never expected sex on first time or if at all..just to start off with a chat before even trying to meet up for a social drink.
Nope it must be me I do not have the looks or the body and too damn hairy and no not going to keep shaving all the time...it takes ages and once I had ingrown hair in my back and it was painful.
I could delete any photos that don't show my face. At least I might stand more of a chance.
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well if you're saying it must be you, then what has charging got to do with it? if women get 'too many' messages thats their lookout, they can chose not to receive messages from non site supporters already...nothing else is needed surely? |
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"I know it's been said before, but I think it's a good idea to charge for single men. As we know there are far to many men all trying to get in and not standing a chance..so many have complained about it me included. I am now just here to read the forum and see any local events. Being a single guy makes it almost impossible. But if we had to pay it will cut the numbers down a bit so we may stand a little chance
Up your game and put yourself out there. If you’re just here for the forums I don’t get why you’d like to pay more. The site supporter fee eliminates a lot of messers
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Totally agree with this. |
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"Blimey, OP! Cheer up! None of your photos show you smiling and a couple of them are really good. Have you been to a social? Then you can talk and not have to rely on messaging.
Those photos I was smiling I am not going to paint a joker smile on my face lol
Can't take a photo of what I don't have.
I do go the attic but again in the same boat...single guy in a place where there is a lot of single guys it's extremely hard to strike up a conversation as people tend to go in pairs, groups or meet up with people that they already friends with and they don't talk to single guys. Saying that I do have a good time there..not amazing but still fun.
The two beach photos were the best. I’m sorry, I didn’t realise you were smiling. You go to the Attic so that’s good. My friend Andrew got booted out of a club (not the attic) for constantly humming ‘The Dambusters’ theme and speaking as if he was in a Lancaster saying ‘tally ho, chaps’ in the dark room."
Lol at least I have never been kicked out of the attic yet, stayed till almost closing time few times. Only been refused once because I went in jeans and trainers (they was both smart and clean but not shoes and trousers) |
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"I know it's been said before, but I think it's a good idea to charge for single men. As we know there are far to many men all trying to get in and not standing a chance..so many have complained about it me included. I am now just here to read the forum and see any local events. Being a single guy makes it almost impossible. But if we had to pay it will cut the numbers down a bit so we may stand a little chance "
You have already Said you would pay . So why do you think every other single guy would not pay ? if they all did nothing would change . ( besides Fabs bank balance ) |
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"Negative Nelly always moaned
Negative Nelly was all alone
Negative Nelly went to a club
Negative Nelly shoulda gone dahn the pub"
I am sorry it's easy to slip into negative mode when you get just about every message you write deleted...or I get the odd rare message back saying "not my type" or "sorry not interested" not had a successful message yet.
And I just remember reading what other guys who said same thing and they too was told to up their game. It does limit you when you can't do much more then what you have. Maybe I will put more effort into going to a meeting if I can find one local other then the attic..I enjoy that place but it's not great for meeting people. |
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Like many men, when they join a site like this, their expectations are far too high!
What are your reasons for joining fab, op?
If there was a joining fee would your expectations not be higher? After all you would want value for money. Stop blaming everything and everyone else. |
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"It's just the way it is
RUN-DMC, Jason Nevins - It's Like That 
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Thanks I got that tune stuck in my head lol
Yeah, but can you do the dance though?  "
Not since the bike accident last year gave me 3 fractures in my spine. Not has flexible has i used it be. |
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It's quite correct that if you charged single men you would reduce the number. That's basic economics. The problem of single men then pretending to be couples or women would be solved by insisting on anyone purporting to have a female involved calling a number to voice verify.
The difficulty is that charging men and not women would probably fall foul of the Equality Act. |
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Men or women, fat or thin, old or young, black or white ... money is accessible to all and using it to join a site or a club will not change your success .... but developing a friendly, less whinging and more positive attitude will  |
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"Men or women, fat or thin, old or young, black or white ... money is accessible to all and using it to join a site or a club will not change your success .... but developing a friendly, less whinging and more positive attitude will "
His point is that if you charged say £50 for single men there would be a number of guys who couldn't afford or wouldn't think it was worth it, hence such a charge would reduce the pool of single men and thus give the remaining ones a better chance.
He's correct on that. As I say, basic economics. |
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"It's just the way it is
RUN-DMC, Jason Nevins - It's Like That
www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLGWQfK-6DY
Thanks I got that tune stuck in my head lol
Yeah, but can you do the dance though?
Not since the bike accident last year gave me 3 fractures in my spine. Not has flexible has i used it be. "
Ah not good 
I was lucky I suppose when I came off mine at 80 mph with a front tyre blow out and landed in a field in 1987 |
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"It's just the way it is
RUN-DMC, Jason Nevins - It's Like That
www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLGWQfK-6DY
Thanks I got that tune stuck in my head lol
Yeah, but can you do the dance though?
Not since the bike accident last year gave me 3 fractures in my spine. Not has flexible has i used it be.
Ah not good
I was lucky I suppose when I came off mine at 80 mph with a front tyre blow out and landed in a field in 1987 "
You mean you teleported? |
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"Men or women, fat or thin, old or young, black or white ... money is accessible to all and using it to join a site or a club will not change your success .... but developing a friendly, less whinging and more positive attitude will "
I have tried positive attitude and will still try. This not whinging more or less just having a say but even having a say no matter the issue far to many people are happy to jump at the he is being whingy or negative. I have not slagged anyone of or been rude to anyone only spoke what I am currently thinking and feeling. But has said before it does get you done when you make an effect and write to someone..you get instant deleted. What is there to be positive about in thst  |
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"I know it's been said before, but I think it's a good idea to charge for single men. As we know there are far to many men all trying to get in and not standing a chance..so many have complained about it me included. I am now just here to read the forum and see any local events. Being a single guy makes it almost impossible. But if we had to pay it will cut the numbers down a bit so we may stand a little chance "
It doesn't even cost much to upgrade either |
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"I know it's been said before, but I think it's a good idea to charge for single men. As we know there are far to many men all trying to get in and not standing a chance..so many have complained about it me included. I am now just here to read the forum and see any local events. Being a single guy makes it almost impossible. But if we had to pay it will cut the numbers down a bit so we may stand a little chance
It doesn't even cost much to upgrade either"
Upgraded...not made a difference |
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"Men or women, fat or thin, old or young, black or white ... money is accessible to all and using it to join a site or a club will not change your success .... but developing a friendly, less whinging and more positive attitude will
I have tried positive attitude and will still try. This not whinging more or less just having a say but even having a say no matter the issue far to many people are happy to jump at the he is being whingy or negative. I have not slagged anyone of or been rude to anyone only spoke what I am currently thinking and feeling. But has said before it does get you done when you make an effect and write to someone..you get instant deleted. What is there to be positive about in thst "
It seems your bottom two photos are quite obviously of you when you were much younger. The discrepancies between them and your top photo will put people off. |
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I know it’s difficult for single men but having access to the attic must be something in your favour. You can easily chat to people - what if 4 people are chatting about ‘why won’t that guy talk to us?’ - get a different mindset. There’s plenty you can do to improve things. |
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"Men or women, fat or thin, old or young, black or white ... money is accessible to all and using it to join a site or a club will not change your success .... but developing a friendly, less whinging and more positive attitude will
I have tried positive attitude and will still try. This not whinging more or less just having a say but even having a say no matter the issue far to many people are happy to jump at the he is being whingy or negative. I have not slagged anyone of or been rude to anyone only spoke what I am currently thinking and feeling. But has said before it does get you done when you make an effect and write to someone..you get instant deleted. What is there to be positive about in thst
It seems your bottom two photos are quite obviously of you when you were much younger. The discrepancies between them and your top photo will put people off. "
Maybe the OP aged and put on weight one horrendous month last year?
If those photos are so old that you’ve changed, my advice is to lose them and put new ones up. |
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"Men or women, fat or thin, old or young, black or white ... money is accessible to all and using it to join a site or a club will not change your success .... but developing a friendly, less whinging and more positive attitude will
I have tried positive attitude and will still try. This not whinging more or less just having a say but even having a say no matter the issue far to many people are happy to jump at the he is being whingy or negative. I have not slagged anyone of or been rude to anyone only spoke what I am currently thinking and feeling. But has said before it does get you done when you make an effect and write to someone..you get instant deleted. What is there to be positive about in thst
It seems your bottom two photos are quite obviously of you when you were much younger. The discrepancies between them and your top photo will put people off.
Maybe the OP aged and put on weight one horrendous month last year?
If those photos are so old that you’ve changed, my advice is to lose them and put new ones up. "
He has a full head of hair in two and very little hair in another! |
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"I know it’s difficult for single men but having access to the attic must be something in your favour. You can easily chat to people - what if 4 people are chatting about ‘why won’t that guy talk to us?’ - get a different mindset. There’s plenty you can do to improve things. "
I have tried a few times but nothing seems to work I have spoken often to other single men..who felt the same way. I have spoken to some couples but some friendly some not so friendly. But each time I go there I get a different output. |
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"It's just the way it is
RUN-DMC, Jason Nevins - It's Like That
www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLGWQfK-6DY
Thanks I got that tune stuck in my head lol
Yeah, but can you do the dance though?
Not since the bike accident last year gave me 3 fractures in my spine. Not has flexible has i used it be.
Ah not good
I was lucky I suppose when I came off mine at 80 mph with a front tyre blow out and landed in a field in 1987 You mean you teleported? "
I flew through the air and was immediately surrounded by inquisitive sheep |
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"Men or women, fat or thin, old or young, black or white ... money is accessible to all and using it to join a site or a club will not change your success .... but developing a friendly, less whinging and more positive attitude will
I have tried positive attitude and will still try. This not whinging more or less just having a say but even having a say no matter the issue far to many people are happy to jump at the he is being whingy or negative. I have not slagged anyone of or been rude to anyone only spoke what I am currently thinking and feeling. But has said before it does get you done when you make an effect and write to someone..you get instant deleted. What is there to be positive about in thst
It seems your bottom two photos are quite obviously of you when you were much younger. The discrepancies between them and your top photo will put people off.
Maybe the OP aged and put on weight one horrendous month last year?
If those photos are so old that you’ve changed, my advice is to lose them and put new ones up.
He has a full head of hair in two and very little hair in another! "
That's only because I probly had a haircut at the time. I don't think that should matter too much. My features don't change that much don't have beard not really changed on weight that much not that you notice in a photo. Sometimes I wear contacts but I think it's only right to show photos with glasses.
But for now not having my face on here at the moment. Feel like it's not good enough for the women. |
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"I know it’s difficult for single men but having access to the attic must be something in your favour. You can easily chat to people - what if 4 people are chatting about ‘why won’t that guy talk to us?’ - get a different mindset. There’s plenty you can do to improve things.
I have tried a few times but nothing seems to work I have spoken often to other single men..who felt the same way. I have spoken to some couples but some friendly some not so friendly. But each time I go there I get a different output. "
You’re brave going to a club and chatting to other men. I wouldn’t as I’d be too scared they’d touch my bottom or some other uninvited unnecessariness. I wouldn’t feel them at all!!!
Nothing wrong with a different output. Although, I’m not exactly sure what you mean there. Are you saying the same things to different people and then they answer differently? |
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"It's just the way it is
RUN-DMC, Jason Nevins - It's Like That
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Thanks I got that tune stuck in my head lol
Yeah, but can you do the dance though?
Not since the bike accident last year gave me 3 fractures in my spine. Not has flexible has i used it be.
Ah not good
I was lucky I suppose when I came off mine at 80 mph with a front tyre blow out and landed in a field in 1987 You mean you teleported?
I flew through the air and was immediately surrounded by inquisitive sheep "
No I was not as lucky as that although the guys bonnet saved me I think. Don't remember a lot think I may have closed my eyes before passing out..on the A38 was hit by a car going 70mph I was going 40 at the time..lost my glasses...and my food (came out my back box on the scooter) |
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"It's just the way it is
RUN-DMC, Jason Nevins - It's Like That
www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLGWQfK-6DY
Thanks I got that tune stuck in my head lol
Yeah, but can you do the dance though?
Not since the bike accident last year gave me 3 fractures in my spine. Not has flexible has i used it be.
Ah not good
I was lucky I suppose when I came off mine at 80 mph with a front tyre blow out and landed in a field in 1987 You mean you teleported?
I flew through the air and was immediately surrounded by inquisitive sheep "
yeah yeah . it was not my fault officer they was gagging for it |
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"Negative Nelly always moaned
Negative Nelly was all alone
Negative Nelly went to a club
Negative Nelly shoulda gone dahn the pub
I am sorry it's easy to slip into negative mode when you get just about every message you write deleted...or I get the odd rare message back saying "not my type" or "sorry not interested" not had a successful message yet.
And I just remember reading what other guys who said same thing and they too was told to up their game. It does limit you when you can't do much more then what you have. Maybe I will put more effort into going to a meeting if I can find one local other then the attic..I enjoy that place but it's not great for meeting people. "
I find it desperatly sad ( the situation not you as such) that men hold so much store by writing a message however amazing and tailored etc etc) and sit around waiting by the computer. It should be one tool in a whole toolbox that is life, getting out in the real world,socials, clubs, pubs whatever. Allowing despondancy to set in because of an online sex site not working for you shouldnt happen. |
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"I know it’s difficult for single men but having access to the attic must be something in your favour. You can easily chat to people - what if 4 people are chatting about ‘why won’t that guy talk to us?’ - get a different mindset. There’s plenty you can do to improve things.
I have tried a few times but nothing seems to work I have spoken often to other single men..who felt the same way. I have spoken to some couples but some friendly some not so friendly. But each time I go there I get a different output.
You’re brave going to a club and chatting to other men. I wouldn’t as I’d be too scared they’d touch my bottom or some other uninvited unnecessariness. I wouldn’t feel them at all!!!
Nothing wrong with a different output. Although, I’m not exactly sure what you mean there. Are you saying the same things to different people and then they answer differently? "
Lol no the men I was chatting to seemed to be straight or at least I didn't think they was gay or bi.
I think what I meant was every time I go because I come out my shell (not closet) more I get more of a reaction...for example you see a lot of men just hanging around and pacing up and down the club (I do that too as you may miss some action and it burns calories) that's what I meant |
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"It's just the way it is
RUN-DMC, Jason Nevins - It's Like That
www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLGWQfK-6DY
Thanks I got that tune stuck in my head lol
Yeah, but can you do the dance though?
Not since the bike accident last year gave me 3 fractures in my spine. Not has flexible has i used it be.
Ah not good
I was lucky I suppose when I came off mine at 80 mph with a front tyre blow out and landed in a field in 1987 You mean you teleported?
I flew through the air and was immediately surrounded by inquisitive sheep yeah yeah . it was not my fault officer they was gagging for it "
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"I know it's been said before, but I think it's a good idea to charge for single men. As we know there are far to many men all trying to get in and not standing a chance..so many have complained about it me included. I am now just here to read the forum and see any local events. Being a single guy makes it almost impossible. But if we had to pay it will cut the numbers down a bit so we may stand a little chance "
Well personally I love being a single bloke on here! Provided I approach it right I have plenty of dalliances with some truly lovely ladies whenever I wish to and furthermore don't have a mailbox stuffed with shite to deal with?
Easy the best demographic to be IMHO.
Though with your original point, as other posters have said, it would just cause the charlatans and freeloaders to invent yet more couples profiles where the female was always away or ill, ie;never actually about?
A better way of phrasing your idea would be posing the question "Why don't ladies/couples meet more site supporters?"
As then the freeloading pranksters just here to piss about for their own amusement would never get a look in, cutting down the numbers for your benefit? |
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"Men or women, fat or thin, old or young, black or white ... money is accessible to all and using it to join a site or a club will not change your success .... but developing a friendly, less whinging and more positive attitude will
I have tried positive attitude and will still try. This not whinging more or less just having a say but even having a say no matter the issue far to many people are happy to jump at the he is being whingy or negative. I have not slagged anyone of or been rude to anyone only spoke what I am currently thinking and feeling. But has said before it does get you done when you make an effect and write to someone..you get instant deleted. What is there to be positive about in thst
It seems your bottom two photos are quite obviously of you when you were much younger. The discrepancies between them and your top photo will put people off.
Maybe the OP aged and put on weight one horrendous month last year?
If those photos are so old that you’ve changed, my advice is to lose them and put new ones up.
He has a full head of hair in two and very little hair in another!
That's only because I probly had a haircut at the time. I don't think that should matter too much. My features don't change that much don't have beard not really changed on weight that much not that you notice in a photo. Sometimes I wear contacts but I think it's only right to show photos with glasses.
But for now not having my face on here at the moment. Feel like it's not good enough for the women. "
You look 41 in the top pic. You look about 25 in the bottom two pics. People notice these things. |
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"I was once a single man on here and met miss Geeky here who is now my MrsGeeky if there was a paywall then I would never have been here and I never would have met my now wife so no men shouldn’t pay more than women
Besides if that’s what you want there’s plenty of sites out there like that
Ads how much would you have paid before meeting mrs geeky? "
I had a gold membership that was about all I was willing to pay
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"I was once a single man on here and met miss Geeky here who is now my MrsGeeky if there was a paywall then I would never have been here and I never would have met my now wife so no men shouldn’t pay more than women
Besides if that’s what you want there’s plenty of sites out there like that
Ads how much would you have paid before meeting mrs geeky?
I had a gold membership that was about all I was willing to pay
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"Could we have a list of 10 ideas to be going on with?
My first one is......take some new photos - spend the weekend going to places and taking some good quality pics, then some indoor ones. "
I agree. The photos do the OP no favours whatsoever. Nothing to do with how he looks, just the quality of the current one and the age of the others. |
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"Could we have a list of 10 ideas to be going on with?
My first one is......take some new photos - spend the weekend going to places and taking some good quality pics, then some indoor ones.
I agree. The photos do the OP no favours whatsoever. Nothing to do with how he looks, just the quality of the current one and the age of the others. "
I don't actually think there's that much of a time gap between them. He doesn't look 25 on the others, especially the bottom one. It's just before he got his hair cropped short and was probably getting plenty of sleep with being off work as no stress and a suntan to boot? Whereas the last pic is just crapper I'm afraid, looks like it's been taken after a long day, with an uninspiring background in unflattering lighting?
Though I imagine the text would be more of an issue, other than saying he likes to go to the attic though isn't limited to sex there and that he's respectful it says nothing whatsoever and there's no attempt at wordsmithery or seduction?
Far from the worst profile on here, I'd probably put it in the average bracket? But on Fab average doesn't cut the mustard for single guys most of the time so he needs to find ways to elevate his profike far beyond that? |
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"paid sites are full of plenty of fakes too...it's a pointlees idea...it would more likley produce more as theyd make female profiles to get around it anyway. I agree, before I came on here I was on another site with a monthly fee. I had tons of messages from beautiful women. It didn’t take lol by to work out 99% were scammers. Then someone suggested fab and I haven’t looked back. Keep fab the way it is I say. I’ve been lucky enough to meet some amazing people in the 5 years I’ve been on and off here. If it’s not working for you then man up and raise your game
How do you raise your game ? When I have tried so many diffent ways to message women. I can't take my account to be a man i am not like have a photo with a 6 pack or have photos without my face or no photos at all because these messages get deleted too. I have tried for almost a year sent more messages then I remember and non was pushy and all polite. What else can we do to "raise your game" ?"
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"paid sites are full of plenty of fakes too...it's a pointlees idea...it would more likley produce more as theyd make female profiles to get around it anyway. I agree, before I came on here I was on another site with a monthly fee. I had tons of messages from beautiful women. It didn’t take lol by to work out 99% were scammers. Then someone suggested fab and I haven’t looked back. Keep fab the way it is I say. I’ve been lucky enough to meet some amazing people in the 5 years I’ve been on and off here. If it’s not working for you then man up and raise your game
How do you raise your game ? When I have tried so many diffent ways to message women. I can't take my account to be a man i am not like have a photo with a 6 pack or have photos without my face or no photos at all because these messages get deleted too. I have tried for almost a year sent more messages then I remember and non was pushy and all polite. What else can we do to "raise your game" ?
Can you bake? Women like cake "
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Charging more to cut numbers down just potentially means that those with more money get in but not the guys who may be much more decent but have less money. It's not a filter for quality of person.
In 2018 it should by now be unacceptably wrong to charge genders differently. It feels like the dark ages. |
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"Charging more to cut numbers down just potentially means that those with more money get in but not the guys who may be much more decent but have less money. It's not a filter for quality of person.
In 2018 it should by now be unacceptably wrong to charge genders differently. It feels like the dark ages."
This threas reminds me of the thread earlier on about swinging clubs and how women get in free, couples pay a vast reduced price and single guys are charged anything upto 50quid for entry.
I was arguing against it saying it should be a more balanced pay scheme but the majority of posters seemed to think that it was fine how it is (mostly women and couples).
Complete opposite on this thread where most people think charging men purely based on gender isnt right.
Where was you all earlier on :p |
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"Charging more to cut numbers down just potentially means that those with more money get in but not the guys who may be much more decent but have less money. It's not a filter for quality of person.
In 2018 it should by now be unacceptably wrong to charge genders differently. It feels like the dark ages."
People only want equality when it works out in their favour. |
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Have lots of photos for you to choose from, to upload a few. Professionally shot photos do this all the time, so amateurs should expect to do similarly - especially when we are not trained models, generally.
Smiling in pics is usually better received than not - so get others to take them of you when relaxed and smiling.
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I’m on a smaller swinging site that hosts their own (expensive) parties. It used to be free to join and once verified you can go to the parties. They have a search section and forums etc like this one. You now have to pay something like £20 to join as many people were making fake accounts. I think it’s a good thing for the serious swinger as would deter some of the fakes. |
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It wouldn't matter if there was only 1 man on this site. If I didn't fancy him I wouldn't fuck him.
The vast number of men on the site is not the issue. |
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I've said it before and I'll say it again. EVERYONE should be forced to show a fully visible face pic holding the "FabSwingers.com & date" on it to join. This doesn't mean that picture has to show on your profile but at least it gives evidence that you are who you say you are.
Unless you have serious Photoshop skills then you're gonna struggle faking an account with that.
People will say it's impossible to mod that many profiles but I'm sure Gold/Silver members will be more than happy spending 2/3 minutes a day policing the new profiles. I know I would be as I'm sick of the fakes/trolls on here and it puts many people off even sending messages to other users because of it.
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"Charging more to cut numbers down just potentially means that those with more money get in but not the guys who may be much more decent but have less money. It's not a filter for quality of person.
In 2018 it should by now be unacceptably wrong to charge genders differently. It feels like the dark ages.
This threas reminds me of the thread earlier on about swinging clubs and how women get in free, couples pay a vast reduced price and single guys are charged anything upto 50quid for entry.
I was arguing against it saying it should be a more balanced pay scheme but the majority of posters seemed to think that it was fine how it is (mostly women and couples).
Complete opposite on this thread where most people think charging men purely based on gender isnt right.
Where was you all earlier on :p"
It's like waiting for buses
I think I posted in that thread similarly.
With equality we can make progressive change, some gaining, some losing - but we're all winners, as we make the world a fairer and better place. We're moving too slowly at present.
Clubs, businesses etc will just have to create new solutions, ideally by being proactive, rather than reactive. They have largely followed an unsavoury approach from yesteryear when it was more viewed as not unacceptable. And they do it because the law allows private clubs to discriminate, otherwise they would have adapted as all other businesses had to, many years ago.
It's repressive, stunted thinking. A new approach is needed that is not lazy and abusive. We should not tolerate any abuse in our society whatever.
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"It wouldn't matter if there was only 1 man on this site. If I didn't fancy him I wouldn't fuck him.
The vast number of men on the site is not the issue. "
You spot on you hit the nail on the head. I do not fit the athletic style or handsome looks..it don't matter if us men have a good heart, friendly, polite or kind. If we not good looking enough lady's don't want to know..you the only one to admit it. You see all that rubbish about beauty is skin deep...does not mean a thing. |
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"It wouldn't matter if there was only 1 man on this site. If I didn't fancy him I wouldn't fuck him.
The vast number of men on the site is not the issue.
You spot on you hit the nail on the head. I do not fit the athletic style or handsome looks..it don't matter if us men have a good heart, friendly, polite or kind. If we not good looking enough lady's don't want to know..you the only one to admit it. You see all that rubbish about beauty is skin deep...does not mean a thing. "
Perhaps not with sex. Although being able to perform, having knowledge and an absolutely stellar imagination that can put a woman's mind into the stratosphere could certainly negate this. With relationships though it's often true. People do go on looks, but other redeemable qualities come far more into play. Also with relationships the opposite is true; it's a man's world as the overwhelming majority of single women want one whereas most men aren't really that fussed? So it's usually women that have to "woman up" and raise their game to beat off competitors as they may well have an average of 3 rivals all going for the same chap, due to most men thinking "Nah, I'm not bothered." |
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Maybe charge female & couples profiles on creation. There would probably be less sad lads pisstake pretending to be the female they aint.
What could be done about the male halves of some couples profiles? The ones who like to have a piss take pretending to be their wife |
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"It wouldn't matter if there was only 1 man on this site. If I didn't fancy him I wouldn't fuck him.
The vast number of men on the site is not the issue.
You spot on you hit the nail on the head. I do not fit the athletic style or handsome looks..it don't matter if us men have a good heart, friendly, polite or kind. If we not good looking enough lady's don't want to know..you the only one to admit it. You see all that rubbish about beauty is skin deep...does not mean a thing. "
I'm not attracted to athletic men or supposedly handsome types. It's not all about looks. It will be for some women but not me. |
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