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"Some people are racist without even knowing it. Already this morning somebody couldnt connect her tweet about comparing that black lady to an ape to being racist. " heard some really interesting stuff about 'unconscious bias' in the media this week, connected to Starbucks closing all their sites in the USA to do equality training after 2 black guys arrested for fuck all in one of their coffee shops. Made me reflect on what my unconscious biases are... a phrase I'd probably heard before but not really taken much notice of. Roseanne has not been a bit funny for years.  | |||
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"What did she do" I cant find her quote I would be interested to see what she actually said. | |||
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"What did she do I cant find her quote I would be interested to see what she actually said." I believe she likened Barrack Obama to an ape. | |||
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"What did she do I cant find her quote I would be interested to see what she actually said. I believe she likened Barrack Obama to an ape." Close. It was one of his advisers. If a Muslim and an ape had a baby...... | |||
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"as falls from grace because of twitter go, that was epic! is it a topic for the lounge, or for the politics? " Didn't realise she was still around til this. I doubt I'm the only one not the least bit surprised she felt confident to voice her opinions. I have noticed over the last couple of years an increase in racist language and casual racism I've not experienced since my childhood in the 60s. Before people think I have a chip on my shoulder my partner is white, one of my son-in=laws is white and I have three mixed race grandchldren. No axe to grind here. | |||
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"Some people are racist without even knowing it. Already this morning somebody couldnt connect her tweet about comparing that black lady to an ape to being racist. " As I said I didn't see the racism in the tweet and you have tried to contact me privately ........ I'm asking you outright now and giving you the chance to retract..... Are you calling ME racist? | |||
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"Im baffled at what part of comparing a black lady to a ape you didnt find racist ?" Are you calling me racist? | |||
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"No. Im just asking what part you didnt find racist ?" Thank you. I'll take your word for it even though your post above clearly implies that by asking a question I am. That's a good way of co-ercing people into accepting without question isn't it. Pointing a finger , calling names and labelling. What part of what Barr said do you find racist ? | |||
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"No. Im just asking what part you didnt find racist ? Thank you. I'll take your word for it even though your post above clearly implies that by asking a question I am. That's a good way of co-ercing people into accepting without question isn't it. Pointing a finger , calling names and labelling. What part of what Barr said do you find racist ? " I’m going to hazard a guess but the comparison between a person of colour and an ape would be the clincher for me! | |||
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"No. Im just asking what part you didnt find racist ? Thank you. I'll take your word for it even though your post above clearly implies that by asking a question I am. That's a good way of co-ercing people into accepting without question isn't it. Pointing a finger , calling names and labelling. What part of what Barr said do you find racist ? " What part didnt you find racist ? | |||
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" What part of what Barr said do you find racist ? " There is a long history of white people comparing black people to apes or monkeys. It's a way to dehumanise them and perpetuate stereotypes. It's racist. | |||
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"All of it." What exactly did she say that was racist ? I've read it several times from a variety of sources. Im interested your opinion as to what part of what she said that was racist ? | |||
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"I honestly think people need to get off social media.... It really is doing more harm than good" I'm not so sure. We only tend to see the bad in it. It does a lot of good too. | |||
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"What a twattish thing to tweet. Indefensible on her part no matter how much sleeping pills she says she had. " Twattish is putting it mildly. | |||
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" What part of what Barr said do you find racist ? There is a long history of white people comparing black people to apes or monkeys. It's a way to dehumanise them and perpetuate stereotypes. It's racist. " Thank you. x | |||
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"I honestly think people need to get off social media.... It really is doing more harm than good" Sit down Mr. Councillor. We should be able to use social media without being twats  | |||
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"No. Im just asking what part you didnt find racist ? Thank you. I'll take your word for it even though your post above clearly implies that by asking a question I am. That's a good way of co-ercing people into accepting without question isn't it. Pointing a finger , calling names and labelling. What part of what Barr said do you find racist ? " Having read a fair few of your posts on numerous threads I can only come to the conclusion you're a WUM. Not for one minute do I think you're a 63yo woman for a second, you come across as a teenage boy/immature man in most of your posts. Oh and even someone seriously lacking in the IQ dept would lack the awareness that that tweet isn't racist.  | |||
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"No. Im just asking what part you didnt find racist ? Thank you. I'll take your word for it even though your post above clearly implies that by asking a question I am. That's a good way of co-ercing people into accepting without question isn't it. Pointing a finger , calling names and labelling. What part of what Barr said do you find racist ? What part didnt you find racist ?" Let's leave it there. You seem unable to put a point of view. You point fingers but say nothing and that is one thing that worries me in anything like this; when those without ideas just join the baying crowd. I didn't like what she said but equally I don't like those that shout hurt just to be in the popular bunch. | |||
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"No. Im just asking what part you didnt find racist ? Thank you. I'll take your word for it even though your post above clearly implies that by asking a question I am. That's a good way of co-ercing people into accepting without question isn't it. Pointing a finger , calling names and labelling. What part of what Barr said do you find racist ? Having read a fair few of your posts on numerous threads I can only come to the conclusion you're a WUM. Not for one minute do I think you're a 63yo woman for a second, you come across as a teenage boy/immature man in most of your posts. Oh and even someone seriously lacking in the IQ dept would lack the awareness that that tweet isn't racist. "Insults noted. Have you anything to say on racism ? | |||
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"No. Im just asking what part you didnt find racist ? Thank you. I'll take your word for it even though your post above clearly implies that by asking a question I am. That's a good way of co-ercing people into accepting without question isn't it. Pointing a finger , calling names and labelling. What part of what Barr said do you find racist ? Having read a fair few of your posts on numerous threads I can only come to the conclusion you're a WUM. Not for one minute do I think you're a 63yo woman for a second, you come across as a teenage boy/immature man in most of your posts. Oh and even someone seriously lacking in the IQ dept would lack the awareness that that tweet isn't racist.
Insults noted. Have you anything to say on racism ?"Just for the record. I never said it wasn't racist. You must hate less and reason more. Young man. | |||
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"No. Im just asking what part you didnt find racist ? Thank you. I'll take your word for it even though your post above clearly implies that by asking a question I am. That's a good way of co-ercing people into accepting without question isn't it. Pointing a finger , calling names and labelling. What part of what Barr said do you find racist ? Having read a fair few of your posts on numerous threads I can only come to the conclusion you're a WUM. Not for one minute do I think you're a 63yo woman for a second, you come across as a teenage boy/immature man in most of your posts. Oh and even someone seriously lacking in the IQ dept would lack the awareness that that tweet isn't racist. "So you are saying _ranny-crumpet is a man pretending to be a woman?  | |||
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"No. Im just asking what part you didnt find racist ? Thank you. I'll take your word for it even though your post above clearly implies that by asking a question I am. That's a good way of co-ercing people into accepting without question isn't it. Pointing a finger , calling names and labelling. What part of what Barr said do you find racist ? Having read a fair few of your posts on numerous threads I can only come to the conclusion you're a WUM. Not for one minute do I think you're a 63yo woman for a second, you come across as a teenage boy/immature man in most of your posts. Oh and even someone seriously lacking in the IQ dept would lack the awareness that that tweet isn't racist.
Insults noted. Have you anything to say on racism ?
Just for the record. I never said it wasn't racist.
You must hate less and reason more. Young man."Sorry. I just looked at your profile and you are 40. I take my comment back. | |||
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"as falls from grace because of twitter go, that was epic! is it a topic for the lounge, or for the politics? " The lounge. Worth pointing out she has also been epically offensive calling a Jewish person a Nazi. | |||
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"as falls from grace because of twitter go, that was epic! is it a topic for the lounge, or for the politics? The lounge. Worth pointing out she has also been epically offensive calling a Jewish person a Nazi. " She has got away with being offensive for years. It's well documented. | |||
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"as falls from grace because of twitter go, that was epic! is it a topic for the lounge, or for the politics? The lounge. Worth pointing out she has also been epically offensive calling a Jewish person a Nazi. " Is she the new (I’ve forgotten her name) the presenter lady!!! Help | |||
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"as falls from grace because of twitter go, that was epic! is it a topic for the lounge, or for the politics? The lounge. Worth pointing out she has also been epically offensive calling a Jewish person a Nazi. Is she the new (I’ve forgotten her name) the presenter lady!!! Help" Katy something? | |||
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"No. Im just asking what part you didnt find racist ? Thank you. I'll take your word for it even though your post above clearly implies that by asking a question I am. That's a good way of co-ercing people into accepting without question isn't it. Pointing a finger , calling names and labelling. What part of what Barr said do you find racist ? Having read a fair few of your posts on numerous threads I can only come to the conclusion you're a WUM. Not for one minute do I think you're a 63yo woman for a second, you come across as a teenage boy/immature man in most of your posts. Oh and even someone seriously lacking in the IQ dept would lack the awareness that that tweet isn't racist.
So you are saying _ranny-crumpet is a man pretending to be a woman? "I think my post is fairly self-explanatory. | |||
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"as falls from grace because of twitter go, that was epic! is it a topic for the lounge, or for the politics? The lounge. Worth pointing out she has also been epically offensive calling a Jewish person a Nazi. Is she the new (I’ve forgotten her name) the presenter lady!!! Help Katy something?" That’s it! Katy Hopkins!! Thank you. She’s the new Katy Hopkins | |||
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"No. Im just asking what part you didnt find racist ? Thank you. I'll take your word for it even though your post above clearly implies that by asking a question I am. That's a good way of co-ercing people into accepting without question isn't it. Pointing a finger , calling names and labelling. What part of what Barr said do you find racist ? Having read a fair few of your posts on numerous threads I can only come to the conclusion you're a WUM. Not for one minute do I think you're a 63yo woman for a second, you come across as a teenage boy/immature man in most of your posts. Oh and even someone seriously lacking in the IQ dept would lack the awareness that that tweet isn't racist. " ...sorry, Granny can hold her own, but I have to say "immature teenage boy" would not e how I'd ever describe Granny. | |||
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"No. Im just asking what part you didnt find racist ? Thank you. I'll take your word for it even though your post above clearly implies that by asking a question I am. That's a good way of co-ercing people into accepting without question isn't it. Pointing a finger , calling names and labelling. What part of what Barr said do you find racist ? Having read a fair few of your posts on numerous threads I can only come to the conclusion you're a WUM. Not for one minute do I think you're a 63yo woman for a second, you come across as a teenage boy/immature man in most of your posts. Oh and even someone seriously lacking in the IQ dept would lack the awareness that that tweet isn't racist.
So you are saying _ranny-crumpet is a man pretending to be a woman?
I think my post is fairly self-explanatory. "I’m going to investigate her, This is serious | |||
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"No. Im just asking what part you didnt find racist ? Thank you. I'll take your word for it even though your post above clearly implies that by asking a question I am. That's a good way of co-ercing people into accepting without question isn't it. Pointing a finger , calling names and labelling. What part of what Barr said do you find racist ? Having read a fair few of your posts on numerous threads I can only come to the conclusion you're a WUM. Not for one minute do I think you're a 63yo woman for a second, you come across as a teenage boy/immature man in most of your posts. Oh and even someone seriously lacking in the IQ dept would lack the awareness that that tweet isn't racist.
...sorry, Granny can hold her own, but I have to say "immature teenage boy" would not e how I'd ever describe Granny. "Agreed- am sure I met her at a social years ago! | |||
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"No. Im just asking what part you didnt find racist ? Thank you. I'll take your word for it even though your post above clearly implies that by asking a question I am. That's a good way of co-ercing people into accepting without question isn't it. Pointing a finger , calling names and labelling. What part of what Barr said do you find racist ? Having read a fair few of your posts on numerous threads I can only come to the conclusion you're a WUM. Not for one minute do I think you're a 63yo woman for a second, you come across as a teenage boy/immature man in most of your posts. Oh and even someone seriously lacking in the IQ dept would lack the awareness that that tweet isn't racist.
...sorry, Granny can hold her own, but I have to say "immature teenage boy" would not e how I'd ever describe Granny. "Cheers Sass.... I think  | |||
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"as falls from grace because of twitter go, that was epic! is it a topic for the lounge, or for the politics? The lounge. Worth pointing out she has also been epically offensive calling a Jewish person a Nazi. She has got away with being offensive for years. It's well documented." the problem is also she has "previous" in this, in that she compared another black lady who was part of the obama administration to an ape.... so its not a new insult she also has "previous" in being anti semetic, and in pushing conspiracy theories | |||
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"No. Im just asking what part you didnt find racist ? Thank you. I'll take your word for it even though your post above clearly implies that by asking a question I am. That's a good way of co-ercing people into accepting without question isn't it. Pointing a finger , calling names and labelling. What part of what Barr said do you find racist ? Having read a fair few of your posts on numerous threads I can only come to the conclusion you're a WUM. Not for one minute do I think you're a 63yo woman for a second, you come across as a teenage boy/immature man in most of your posts. Oh and even someone seriously lacking in the IQ dept would lack the awareness that that tweet isn't racist.
...sorry, Granny can hold her own, but I have to say "immature teenage boy" would not e how I'd ever describe Granny.
Agreed- am sure I met her at a social years ago!"I recall it ..... I recall it! So so so many years ago | |||
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"as falls from grace because of twitter go, that was epic! is it a topic for the lounge, or for the politics? The lounge. Worth pointing out she has also been epically offensive calling a Jewish person a Nazi. She has got away with being offensive for years. It's well documented. the problem is also she has "previous" in this, in that she compared another black lady who was part of the obama administration to an ape.... so its not a new insult she also has "previous" in being anti semetic, and in pushing conspiracy theories" Were you impressed with ABC's swift action ? Have to say I was. | |||
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"No. Im just asking what part you didnt find racist ? Thank you. I'll take your word for it even though your post above clearly implies that by asking a question I am. That's a good way of co-ercing people into accepting without question isn't it. Pointing a finger , calling names and labelling. What part of what Barr said do you find racist ? Having read a fair few of your posts on numerous threads I can only come to the conclusion you're a WUM. Not for one minute do I think you're a 63yo woman for a second, you come across as a teenage boy/immature man in most of your posts. Oh and even someone seriously lacking in the IQ dept would lack the awareness that that tweet isn't racist.
So you are saying _ranny-crumpet is a man pretending to be a woman?
I think my post is fairly self-explanatory.
I’m going to investigate her, This is serious "Do men have boobs that dust the floor ? | |||
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"No. Im just asking what part you didnt find racist ? Thank you. I'll take your word for it even though your post above clearly implies that by asking a question I am. That's a good way of co-ercing people into accepting without question isn't it. Pointing a finger , calling names and labelling. What part of what Barr said do you find racist ? Having read a fair few of your posts on numerous threads I can only come to the conclusion you're a WUM. Not for one minute do I think you're a 63yo woman for a second, you come across as a teenage boy/immature man in most of your posts. Oh and even someone seriously lacking in the IQ dept would lack the awareness that that tweet isn't racist.
...sorry, Granny can hold her own, but I have to say "immature teenage boy" would not e how I'd ever describe Granny.
Agreed- am sure I met her at a social years ago!
I recall it ..... I recall it! So so so many years ago "Yay! She’s validated! Phew! | |||
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"No. Im just asking what part you didnt find racist ? Thank you. I'll take your word for it even though your post above clearly implies that by asking a question I am. That's a good way of co-ercing people into accepting without question isn't it. Pointing a finger , calling names and labelling. What part of what Barr said do you find racist ? Having read a fair few of your posts on numerous threads I can only come to the conclusion you're a WUM. Not for one minute do I think you're a 63yo woman for a second, you come across as a teenage boy/immature man in most of your posts. Oh and even someone seriously lacking in the IQ dept would lack the awareness that that tweet isn't racist.
So you are saying _ranny-crumpet is a man pretending to be a woman?
I think my post is fairly self-explanatory.
I’m going to investigate her, This is serious
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"Racism comes in many forms. some are in your face and others more subtle, all of which are wrong. Calling anyone an ape when the basis is skin colour is abhorrent. Of course we have to acknowledge that humans are apes. I would draw your attention to another form of television racism which is based on selective discrimination, take a look at Fresh Prince or Cosby show, both of which are heavily black orientated. I would argue that until we get past colour and accept that skin is nothing more than just skin then we aren't ever going to get anywhere. We all bleed red and we should never forget that." Fresh Prince and Cosby are perhaps dated examples ? | |||
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"No. Im just asking what part you didnt find racist ? Thank you. I'll take your word for it even though your post above clearly implies that by asking a question I am. That's a good way of co-ercing people into accepting without question isn't it. Pointing a finger , calling names and labelling. What part of what Barr said do you find racist ? Having read a fair few of your posts on numerous threads I can only come to the conclusion you're a WUM. Not for one minute do I think you're a 63yo woman for a second, you come across as a teenage boy/immature man in most of your posts. Oh and even someone seriously lacking in the IQ dept would lack the awareness that that tweet isn't racist.
So you are saying _ranny-crumpet is a man pretending to be a woman?
I think my post is fairly self-explanatory.
I’m going to investigate her, This is serious
Do men have boobs that dust the floor ?
You are 63, let’s not talk about boobs. "Can I mention other bodily bits ? | |||
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"as falls from grace because of twitter go, that was epic! is it a topic for the lounge, or for the politics? The lounge. Worth pointing out she has also been epically offensive calling a Jewish person a Nazi. She has got away with being offensive for years. It's well documented. the problem is also she has "previous" in this, in that she compared another black lady who was part of the obama administration to an ape.... so its not a new insult she also has "previous" in being anti semetic, and in pushing conspiracy theories Were you impressed with ABC's swift action ? Have to say I was. " It surprised me esp with how successful the relaunch was for them but was right move. Feel sorry for her co stars and the staff who now lost the show | |||
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"No. Im just asking what part you didnt find racist ? Thank you. I'll take your word for it even though your post above clearly implies that by asking a question I am. That's a good way of co-ercing people into accepting without question isn't it. Pointing a finger , calling names and labelling. What part of what Barr said do you find racist ? Having read a fair few of your posts on numerous threads I can only come to the conclusion you're a WUM. Not for one minute do I think you're a 63yo woman for a second, you come across as a teenage boy/immature man in most of your posts. Oh and even someone seriously lacking in the IQ dept would lack the awareness that that tweet isn't racist.
So you are saying _ranny-crumpet is a man pretending to be a woman?
I think my post is fairly self-explanatory.
I’m going to investigate her, This is serious
Do men have boobs that dust the floor ?
You are 63, let’s not talk about boobs.
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"No. Im just asking what part you didnt find racist ? Thank you. I'll take your word for it even though your post above clearly implies that by asking a question I am. That's a good way of co-ercing people into accepting without question isn't it. Pointing a finger , calling names and labelling. What part of what Barr said do you find racist ? Having read a fair few of your posts on numerous threads I can only come to the conclusion you're a WUM. Not for one minute do I think you're a 63yo woman for a second, you come across as a teenage boy/immature man in most of your posts. Oh and even someone seriously lacking in the IQ dept would lack the awareness that that tweet isn't racist.
...sorry, Granny can hold her own, but I have to say "immature teenage boy" would not e how I'd ever describe Granny.
Cheers Sass.... I think "Granny, I think you hide your light under a bushell, it wouldn't surprise me if you were the smartest amongst us, so to read someone calling you an immature teenaged boy has tickled me no end. | |||
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"Racism comes in many forms. some are in your face and others more subtle, all of which are wrong. Calling anyone an ape when the basis is skin colour is abhorrent. Of course we have to acknowledge that humans are apes. I would draw your attention to another form of television racism which is based on selective discrimination, take a look at Fresh Prince or Cosby show, both of which are heavily black orientated. I would argue that until we get past colour and accept that skin is nothing more than just skin then we aren't ever going to get anywhere. We all bleed red and we should never forget that. Fresh Prince and Cosby are perhaps dated examples ? " Maybe so but they where hugely influential in there time and Prince is replayed everyday. Im not saying they shouldn't be im just pointing out the bias. | |||
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"No. Im just asking what part you didnt find racist ? Thank you. I'll take your word for it even though your post above clearly implies that by asking a question I am. That's a good way of co-ercing people into accepting without question isn't it. Pointing a finger , calling names and labelling. What part of what Barr said do you find racist ? Having read a fair few of your posts on numerous threads I can only come to the conclusion you're a WUM. Not for one minute do I think you're a 63yo woman for a second, you come across as a teenage boy/immature man in most of your posts. Oh and even someone seriously lacking in the IQ dept would lack the awareness that that tweet isn't racist.
...sorry, Granny can hold her own, but I have to say "immature teenage boy" would not e how I'd ever describe Granny.
Cheers Sass.... I think
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"Racism comes in many forms. some are in your face and others more subtle, all of which are wrong. Calling anyone an ape when the basis is skin colour is abhorrent. Of course we have to acknowledge that humans are apes. I would draw your attention to another form of television racism which is based on selective discrimination, take a look at Fresh Prince or Cosby show, both of which are heavily black orientated. I would argue that until we get past colour and accept that skin is nothing more than just skin then we aren't ever going to get anywhere. We all bleed red and we should never forget that." Are you serious? What's your take on Little House on the Pairie, Waltons, Beverley Hill 90120... | |||
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"Racism comes in many forms. some are in your face and others more subtle, all of which are wrong. Calling anyone an ape when the basis is skin colour is abhorrent. Of course we have to acknowledge that humans are apes. I would draw your attention to another form of television racism which is based on selective discrimination, take a look at Fresh Prince or Cosby show, both of which are heavily black orientated. I would argue that until we get past colour and accept that skin is nothing more than just skin then we aren't ever going to get anywhere. We all bleed red and we should never forget that. Fresh Prince and Cosby are perhaps dated examples ? " fresh prince and the Cosby show were actually outliers in fact they were the only shows that had predominately black families.... most other shows were almost exclusively white....or had black people in very low positions..... | |||
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"Racism comes in many forms. some are in your face and others more subtle, all of which are wrong. Calling anyone an ape when the basis is skin colour is abhorrent. Of course we have to acknowledge that humans are apes. I would draw your attention to another form of television racism which is based on selective discrimination, take a look at Fresh Prince or Cosby show, both of which are heavily black orientated. I would argue that until we get past colour and accept that skin is nothing more than just skin then we aren't ever going to get anywhere. We all bleed red and we should never forget that. Fresh Prince and Cosby are perhaps dated examples ? Maybe so but they where hugely influential in there time and Prince is replayed everyday. Im not saying they shouldn't be im just pointing out the bias." I think they were very much a needed influence in their day. They were an antidote to all the white family progs that ignored black people and black culture. Good on those that TOOK the opportunity to give blacks a voice ( of sorts ) That has to happen before we can 'melt' I guess. I think they are dated now tho. | |||
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"No. Im just asking what part you didnt find racist ? Thank you. I'll take your word for it even though your post above clearly implies that by asking a question I am. That's a good way of co-ercing people into accepting without question isn't it. Pointing a finger , calling names and labelling. What part of what Barr said do you find racist ? Having read a fair few of your posts on numerous threads I can only come to the conclusion you're a WUM. Not for one minute do I think you're a 63yo woman for a second, you come across as a teenage boy/immature man in most of your posts. Oh and even someone seriously lacking in the IQ dept would lack the awareness that that tweet isn't racist.
...sorry, Granny can hold her own, but I have to say "immature teenage boy" would not e how I'd ever describe Granny.
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"Racism comes in many forms. some are in your face and others more subtle, all of which are wrong. Calling anyone an ape when the basis is skin colour is abhorrent. Of course we have to acknowledge that humans are apes. I would draw your attention to another form of television racism which is based on selective discrimination, take a look at Fresh Prince or Cosby show, both of which are heavily black orientated. I would argue that until we get past colour and accept that skin is nothing more than just skin then we aren't ever going to get anywhere. We all bleed red and we should never forget that. Are you serious? What's your take on Little House on the Pairie, Waltons, Beverley Hill 90120..." My take is that L.H.On T.P was viewed from inside a sick bucket. | |||
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"Racism comes in many forms. some are in your face and others more subtle, all of which are wrong. Calling anyone an ape when the basis is skin colour is abhorrent. Of course we have to acknowledge that humans are apes. I would draw your attention to another form of television racism which is based on selective discrimination, take a look at Fresh Prince or Cosby show, both of which are heavily black orientated. I would argue that until we get past colour and accept that skin is nothing more than just skin then we aren't ever going to get anywhere. We all bleed red and we should never forget that. Fresh Prince and Cosby are perhaps dated examples ? fresh prince and the Cosby show were actually outliers in fact they were the only shows that had predominately black families.... most other shows were almost exclusively white....or had black people in very low positions....." Would this thread reach to a conclusion? We live in hope | |||
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"as falls from grace because of twitter go, that was epic! is it a topic for the lounge, or for the politics? The lounge. Worth pointing out she has also been epically offensive calling a Jewish person a Nazi. She has got away with being offensive for years. It's well documented. the problem is also she has "previous" in this, in that she compared another black lady who was part of the obama administration to an ape.... so its not a new insult she also has "previous" in being anti semetic, and in pushing conspiracy theories Were you impressed with ABC's swift action ? Have to say I was. " As mentioned by Fabio, Rosanne has previous form so I'm not shocked by this brohooha. The Head of ABC entertainment is a black woman, which may sometimes explain the speed. She didn't sign off the show to be made, but two others who had the authority did. Obviously they backed her up when there was a decision to pull it. Let's not forget that ABC is owned by Disney and they might have had a final say in the matter as well. With that in mind, I still can't help thinking that they were looking for half a chance to get rid of her. Apparently ABC were asking her to take down some of her tweets just before and during the first episodes of the season. There is freedom of expression and she exercised that. However there are consequences of that freedom of expression. She paid the price. | |||
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"as falls from grace because of twitter go, that was epic! is it a topic for the lounge, or for the politics? The lounge. Worth pointing out she has also been epically offensive calling a Jewish person a Nazi. She has got away with being offensive for years. It's well documented. the problem is also she has "previous" in this, in that she compared another black lady who was part of the obama administration to an ape.... so its not a new insult she also has "previous" in being anti semetic, and in pushing conspiracy theories Were you impressed with ABC's swift action ? Have to say I was. As mentioned by Fabio, Rosanne has previous form so I'm not shocked by this brohooha. The Head of ABC entertainment is a black woman, which may sometimes explain the speed. She didn't sign off the show to be made, but two others who had the authority did. Obviously they backed her up when there was a decision to pull it. Let's not forget that ABC is owned by Disney and they might have had a final say in the matter as well. With that in mind, I still can't help thinking that they were looking for half a chance to get rid of her. Apparently ABC were asking her to take down some of her tweets just before and during the first episodes of the season. There is freedom of expression and she exercised that. However there are consequences of that freedom of expression. She paid the price. "She got off lightly in my opinion. Disney weren't too careful in courting her despite her well known behaviour until they had to wash their hands before they showed them. They don't look good in this despite the action. | |||
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"No. Im just asking what part you didnt find racist ? Thank you. I'll take your word for it even though your post above clearly implies that by asking a question I am. That's a good way of co-ercing people into accepting without question isn't it. Pointing a finger , calling names and labelling. What part of what Barr said do you find racist ? Having read a fair few of your posts on numerous threads I can only come to the conclusion you're a WUM. Not for one minute do I think you're a 63yo woman for a second, you come across as a teenage boy/immature man in most of your posts. Oh and even someone seriously lacking in the IQ dept would lack the awareness that that teeth isn't racist. "Just stirring shit it looks like to me... | |||
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"I was doubly impressed with Starbucks, tho I don't know what the racism was in that instance. I haven't read it yet. " in the starbucks case, there was a shop in philadelphia where a couple of black guys went it and took a seat whilst waiting for a friend to meet them, after 2 minutes the manager asked them to order or leave, they said they were again waiting for a friend before ordering and the manager of that store rung the police and said they were trespassing it went viral because a white patron caught the whole thing on their mobile police come, had a discussion and they left the shop in handcuffs..... the black people in this case handled the case super well, they sued the police and starbucks... agreed to settle with the police for 1 dollar as long as the police agreed they did the wrong thing.... agreed a settlement with starbucks for 200k.... and gave the whole lot to charity starbucks in the us is almost like a place to hang out... i have stayed there for ages and not gotten anything or just one coffee.... they were horrified and got in front of this super quick | |||
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"No. Im just asking what part you didnt find racist ? Thank you. I'll take your word for it even though your post above clearly implies that by asking a question I am. That's a good way of co-ercing people into accepting without question isn't it. Pointing a finger , calling names and labelling. What part of what Barr said do you find racist ? Having read a fair few of your posts on numerous threads I can only come to the conclusion you're a WUM. Not for one minute do I think you're a 63yo woman for a second, you come across as a teenage boy/immature man in most of your posts. Oh and even someone seriously lacking in the IQ dept would lack the awareness that that tweet isn't racist.
...sorry, Granny can hold her own, but I have to say "immature teenage boy" would not e how I'd ever describe Granny.
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Granny, I think you hide your light under a bushell, it wouldn't surprise me if you were the smartest amongst us, so to read someone calling you an immature teenaged boy has tickled me no end.
It made me chuckle too "Iv never seen a pic of you,maybe you are a teenage boy sat in his bedroom with his cock out? Then again........ | |||
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"I was doubly impressed with Starbucks, tho I don't know what the racism was in that instance. I haven't read it yet. in the starbucks case, there was a shop in philadelphia where a couple of black guys went it and took a seat whilst waiting for a friend to meet them, after 2 minutes the manager asked them to order or leave, they said they were again waiting for a friend before ordering and the manager of that store rung the police and said they were trespassing it went viral because a white patron caught the whole thing on their mobile police come, had a discussion and they left the shop in handcuffs..... the black people in this case handled the case super well, they sued the police and starbucks... agreed to settle with the police for 1 dollar as long as the police agreed they did the wrong thing.... agreed a settlement with starbucks for 200k.... and gave the whole lot to charity starbucks in the us is almost like a place to hang out... i have stayed there for ages and not gotten anything or just one coffee.... they were horrified and got in front of this super quick " There is more to this story the media is not telling you. My cousin goes to school in Philadelphia and gave me the scoop. These guys were known drug dealers and the manager was fed up with them doing transactions in the store. The 200k they received from Starbucks was donated to a charity they will run... Starbucks did this to save their stock price. Also thugs don’t hangout in Starbucks... thugs don’t drink coffee | |||
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Nah. Keep the thread on topic. It's an important topic "When people start writing paragraphs, you know they know nothing about the matter at hand. Here is my opinion granny, she’s the new Katy Hopkins and there will be another one after this and another one and so on. We need to unlearn racism from very young age. Mic Drop, Obama Out. | |||
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"No. Im just asking what part you didnt find racist ? Thank you. I'll take your word for it even though your post above clearly implies that by asking a question I am. That's a good way of co-ercing people into accepting without question isn't it. Pointing a finger , calling names and labelling. What part of what Barr said do you find racist ? Having read a fair few of your posts on numerous threads I can only come to the conclusion you're a WUM. Not for one minute do I think you're a 63yo woman for a second, you come across as a teenage boy/immature man in most of your posts. Oh and even someone seriously lacking in the IQ dept would lack the awareness that that tweet isn't racist.
...sorry, Granny can hold her own, but I have to say "immature teenage boy" would not e how I'd ever describe Granny.
Cheers Sass.... I think
Granny, I think you hide your light under a bushell, it wouldn't surprise me if you were the smartest amongst us, so to read someone calling you an immature teenaged boy has tickled me no end.
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"as falls from grace because of twitter go, that was epic! is it a topic for the lounge, or for the politics? The lounge. Worth pointing out she has also been epically offensive calling a Jewish person a Nazi. She has got away with being offensive for years. It's well documented. the problem is also she has "previous" in this, in that she compared another black lady who was part of the obama administration to an ape.... so its not a new insult she also has "previous" in being anti semetic, and in pushing conspiracy theories Were you impressed with ABC's swift action ? Have to say I was. As mentioned by Fabio, Rosanne has previous form so I'm not shocked by this brohooha. The Head of ABC entertainment is a black woman, which may sometimes explain the speed. She didn't sign off the show to be made, but two others who had the authority did. Obviously they backed her up when there was a decision to pull it. Let's not forget that ABC is owned by Disney and they might have had a final say in the matter as well. With that in mind, I still can't help thinking that they were looking for half a chance to get rid of her. Apparently ABC were asking her to take down some of her tweets just before and during the first episodes of the season. There is freedom of expression and she exercised that. However there are consequences of that freedom of expression. She paid the price.
She got off lightly in my opinion. Disney weren't too careful in courting her despite her well known behaviour until they had to wash their hands before they showed them. They don't look good in this despite the action."She hasn't got off lightly. Her agency's dropped her. All the reruns of have been cancelled from all the TV networks. So no royalties. If I was a cast member and not working, I'd be pretty pissed off. Her ex husband, Tom Arnold is weighing in too. Apparently he called her out years ago on her racist conspiracy theories and paid the price by being banned from working with ABC. She's toast. It would seem that she wasn't a nice woman, and as the saying goes be nice on your way up. I guess she forgot that. | |||
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"No. Im just asking what part you didnt find racist ? Thank you. I'll take your word for it even though your post above clearly implies that by asking a question I am. That's a good way of co-ercing people into accepting without question isn't it. Pointing a finger , calling names and labelling. What part of what Barr said do you find racist ? I’m going to hazard a guess but the comparison between a person of colour and an ape would be the clincher for me!" Why is that though? Is that because some people think some black people look like apes, or that some apes look human? It was an extremely insulting thing to say to anyone and likened to telling men they are Neanderthal? | |||
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Here is my opinion granny, she’s the new Katy Hopkins and there will be another one after this and another one and so on.
We need to unlearn racism from very young age.
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"I was doubly impressed with Starbucks, tho I don't know what the racism was in that instance. I haven't read it yet. in the starbucks case, there was a shop in philadelphia where a couple of black guys went it and took a seat whilst waiting for a friend to meet them, after 2 minutes the manager asked them to order or leave, they said they were again waiting for a friend before ordering and the manager of that store rung the police and said they were trespassing it went viral because a white patron caught the whole thing on their mobile police come, had a discussion and they left the shop in handcuffs..... the black people in this case handled the case super well, they sued the police and starbucks... agreed to settle with the police for 1 dollar as long as the police agreed they did the wrong thing.... agreed a settlement with starbucks for 200k.... and gave the whole lot to charity starbucks in the us is almost like a place to hang out... i have stayed there for ages and not gotten anything or just one coffee.... they were horrified and got in front of this super quick There is more to this story the media is not telling you. My cousin goes to school in Philadelphia and gave me the scoop. These guys were known drug dealers and the manager was fed up with them doing transactions in the store. The 200k they received from Starbucks was donated to a charity they will run... Starbucks did this to save their stock price. Also thugs don’t hangout in Starbucks... thugs don’t drink coffee " I don't believe that. Can you believe a journo would miss out on that scoop? And would the guy who they were meeting be happy to be filmed doing a potential drug deal? I know I wouldn't, and would refuse to have that video released. I'd be adding for defamation of character. Pull the other one. It's got bells at the end of it! | |||
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"I was doubly impressed with Starbucks, tho I don't know what the racism was in that instance. I haven't read it yet. Starbucks had two African-American men arrested while they were waiting for a friend to join them, because they didn't order anything. No other reason. Maybe not Starbucks but somebody who works or was at Starbucks don’t you think? " For Starbucks to close so many shops yesterday for training because of this, it suggests that there is a problem across the company. Don't forget that this us the company who, in this country, have refused to serve members of the public wanting to buy food and drink for homeless people, in the midst of the Beast from the East, no less. A company who are all heart. I suggest their actions yesterday were an attempt to salvage their reputation in America. | |||
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"I was doubly impressed with Starbucks, tho I don't know what the racism was in that instance. I haven't read it yet. Starbucks had two African-American men arrested while they were waiting for a friend to join them, because they didn't order anything. No other reason. Maybe not Starbucks but somebody who works or was at Starbucks don’t you think? For Starbucks to close so many shops yesterday for training because of this, it suggests that there is a problem across the company. Don't forget that this us the company who, in this country, have refused to serve members of the public wanting to buy food and drink for homeless people, in the midst of the Beast from the East, no less. A company who are all heart. I suggest their actions yesterday were an attempt to salvage their reputation in America." Do you like costa? | |||
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"I was doubly impressed with Starbucks, tho I don't know what the racism was in that instance. I haven't read it yet. Starbucks had two African-American men arrested while they were waiting for a friend to join them, because they didn't order anything. No other reason. Maybe not Starbucks but somebody who works or was at Starbucks don’t you think? For Starbucks to close so many shops yesterday for training because of this, it suggests that there is a problem across the company. Don't forget that this us the company who, in this country, have refused to serve members of the public wanting to buy food and drink for homeless people, in the midst of the Beast from the East, no less. A company who are all heart. I suggest their actions yesterday were an attempt to salvage their reputation in America. Do you like costa? " Caffe Nero. | |||
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"I was doubly impressed with Starbucks, tho I don't know what the racism was in that instance. I haven't read it yet. Starbucks had two African-American men arrested while they were waiting for a friend to join them, because they didn't order anything. No other reason. Maybe not Starbucks but somebody who works or was at Starbucks don’t you think? For Starbucks to close so many shops yesterday for training because of this, it suggests that there is a problem across the company. Don't forget that this us the company who, in this country, have refused to serve members of the public wanting to buy food and drink for homeless people, in the midst of the Beast from the East, no less. A company who are all heart. I suggest their actions yesterday were an attempt to salvage their reputation in America. Do you like costa? Caffe Nero." Starbucks coffee is better | |||
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"who the foooooook is she " A knob. I've never liked her. Had her own television series called Roseanne. | |||
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"If we're being honest, it's only as bad as things diane abbott has said and never been fired for What did she say? I don't think Diane Abbott knows what she's saying most of the time. " Did she say 1 million or 20 million.. I don’t know last time I looked it was 5 million | |||
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"I was doubly impressed with Starbucks, tho I don't know what the racism was in that instance. I haven't read it yet. Starbucks had two African-American men arrested while they were waiting for a friend to join them, because they didn't order anything. No other reason. Maybe not Starbucks but somebody who works or was at Starbucks don’t you think? For Starbucks to close so many shops yesterday for training because of this, it suggests that there is a problem across the company. Don't forget that this us the company who, in this country, have refused to serve members of the public wanting to buy food and drink for homeless people, in the midst of the Beast from the East, no less. A company who are all heart. I suggest their actions yesterday were an attempt to salvage their reputation in America." actually i am going to give starbucks a pass here because this incident was part of a few that came out at the same time where there were white people calling police about black people going about their normal lives and they getting a grilling the incident about the black yale student who fell asleep in here common room area whilst studying, and a white student rang to claim shewas trespassing.... the incident where a white person called police after seeing black people coming out of a house with luggage where in fact they had rented the room via airbnb...... the incident where a white person called the police about a black family having a bbq in a park..... so there were a few of these going on at the same time.... which brought the unconcious bias conversation up | |||
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"If we're being honest, it's only as bad as things diane abbott has said and never been fired for What did she say? I don't think Diane Abbott knows what she's saying most of the time. " Some people get passes is all I'm saying. I don't know who this journalist is but she deserved to get fired for this. I normally defend the free speech angle but the joke doesn't actually work on any level that isn't racist. | |||
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"If we're being honest, it's only as bad as things diane abbott has said and never been fired for What did she say? I don't think Diane Abbott knows what she's saying most of the time. Some people get passes is all I'm saying. I don't know who this journalist is but she deserved to get fired for this. I normally defend the free speech angle but the joke doesn't actually work on any level that isn't racist. " Comedians/Comediennes think they can say anything they want in an attempt at humour, regardless of who they insult or offend. Likening people to animals happens a lot; when it's likening someone to an ape it's racist. Is that because people think apes are ugly or something else? | |||
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"If we're being honest, it's only as bad as things diane abbott has said and never been fired for What did she say? I don't think Diane Abbott knows what she's saying most of the time. Some people get passes is all I'm saying. I don't know who this journalist is but she deserved to get fired for this. I normally defend the free speech angle but the joke doesn't actually work on any level that isn't racist. " If labour fires Dianne Abbot, they will lose their black vote | |||
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"If we're being honest, it's only as bad as things diane abbott has said and never been fired for What did she say? I don't think Diane Abbott knows what she's saying most of the time. Some people get passes is all I'm saying. I don't know who this journalist is but she deserved to get fired for this. I normally defend the free speech angle but the joke doesn't actually work on any level that isn't racist. " It sounded like an insult to me, not a joke. Did anyone laugh? | |||
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"If we're being honest, it's only as bad as things diane abbott has said and never been fired for What did she say? I don't think Diane Abbott knows what she's saying most of the time. Some people get passes is all I'm saying. I don't know who this journalist is but she deserved to get fired for this. I normally defend the free speech angle but the joke doesn't actually work on any level that isn't racist. " Don’t burn your cock on the radiator | |||
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"If we're being honest, it's only as bad as things diane abbott has said and never been fired for What did she say? I don't think Diane Abbott knows what she's saying most of the time. Some people get passes is all I'm saying. I don't know who this journalist is but she deserved to get fired for this. I normally defend the free speech angle but the joke doesn't actually work on any level that isn't racist. If labour fires Dianne Abbot, they will lose their black vote " Is she the only black female mp? | |||
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"If we're being honest, it's only as bad as things diane abbott has said and never been fired for What did she say? I don't think Diane Abbott knows what she's saying most of the time. Some people get passes is all I'm saying. I don't know who this journalist is but she deserved to get fired for this. I normally defend the free speech angle but the joke doesn't actually work on any level that isn't racist. Comedians/Comediennes think they can say anything they want in an attempt at humour, regardless of who they insult or offend. Likening people to animals happens a lot; when it's likening someone to an ape it's racist. Is that because people think apes are ugly or something else? " I believe it's implying that black people are less evolved, but that doesn't work anyway because we did not evolve from apes. It's also racist because of the muslim angle, what does a muslim look like exactly!? They've even got ginger muslims these days. | |||
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"If we're being honest, it's only as bad as things diane abbott has said and never been fired for What did she say? I don't think Diane Abbott knows what she's saying most of the time. Some people get passes is all I'm saying. I don't know who this journalist is but she deserved to get fired for this. I normally defend the free speech angle but the joke doesn't actually work on any level that isn't racist. If labour fires Dianne Abbot, they will lose their black vote Is she the only black female mp?" This is what I don't get. What is this obsession with Dianne Abbot? Why has she been brought up in a topic concerning Roseanne Barr? Please explain. If she has made a Twitter post or comment concerning this issue, please post what she said. I think there is an obsession of Dianne Abbot going on here... Btw I'm not really a fan of Dianne Abbott. I don't particularly like her or hate her. She's just a professional politician like the rest of 'em. Is this a derailment of the post onto Dianne Abbot? Is this the most unsophisticated troll attempt ever. ?  | |||
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"If we're being honest, it's only as bad as things diane abbott has said and never been fired for What did she say? I don't think Diane Abbott knows what she's saying most of the time. Some people get passes is all I'm saying. I don't know who this journalist is but she deserved to get fired for this. I normally defend the free speech angle but the joke doesn't actually work on any level that isn't racist. If labour fires Dianne Abbot, they will lose their black vote Is she the only black female mp?" No, there is David Lami but he’s not as famous as Dianne Abbot. She’s the shadow HS | |||
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"If we're being honest, it's only as bad as things diane abbott has said and never been fired for What did she say? I don't think Diane Abbott knows what she's saying most of the time. Some people get passes is all I'm saying. I don't know who this journalist is but she deserved to get fired for this. I normally defend the free speech angle but the joke doesn't actually work on any level that isn't racist. If labour fires Dianne Abbot, they will lose their black vote Is she the only black female mp? No, there is David Lami but he’s not as famous as Dianne Abbot. She’s the shadow HS" Also there is Chukka Umuna and I am sure other but not very high profile | |||
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"If we're being honest, it's only as bad as things diane abbott has said and never been fired for What did she say? I don't think Diane Abbott knows what she's saying most of the time. Some people get passes is all I'm saying. I don't know who this journalist is but she deserved to get fired for this. I normally defend the free speech angle but the joke doesn't actually work on any level that isn't racist. If labour fires Dianne Abbot, they will lose their black vote Is she the only black female mp? This is what I don't get. What is this obsession with Dianne Abbot? Why has she been brought up in a topic concerning Roseanne Barr? Please explain. If she has made a Twitter post or comment concerning this issue, please post what she said. I think there is an obsession of Dianne Abbot going on here... Btw I'm not really a fan of Dianne Abbott. I don't particularly like her or hate her. She's just a professional politician like the rest of 'em. Is this a derailment of the post onto Dianne Abbot? Is this the most unsophisticated troll attempt ever. ? "You don't have the same outrage when the fresh prince comes into the conversation  | |||
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"Is it racist to call a white person an ape? If not, why not? " Here is my question, can you be a brown ape! | |||
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"If we're being honest, it's only as bad as things diane abbott has said and never been fired for What did she say? I don't think Diane Abbott knows what she's saying most of the time. Some people get passes is all I'm saying. I don't know who this journalist is but she deserved to get fired for this. I normally defend the free speech angle but the joke doesn't actually work on any level that isn't racist. If labour fires Dianne Abbot, they will lose their black vote Is she the only black female mp? No, there is David Lami but he’s not as famous as Dianne Abbot. She’s the shadow HS Also there is Chukka Umuna and I am sure other but not very high profile " Good looking mofo though. My wife wants a MMF with him | |||
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"If we're being honest, it's only as bad as things diane abbott has said and never been fired for What did she say? I don't think Diane Abbott knows what she's saying most of the time. Some people get passes is all I'm saying. I don't know who this journalist is but she deserved to get fired for this. I normally defend the free speech angle but the joke doesn't actually work on any level that isn't racist. If labour fires Dianne Abbot, they will lose their black vote Is she the only black female mp? No, there is David Lami but he’s not as famous as Dianne Abbot. She’s the shadow HS Also there is Chukka Umuna and I am sure other but not very high profile " I said female you Narna. | |||
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"If we're being honest, it's only as bad as things diane abbott has said and never been fired for What did she say? I don't think Diane Abbott knows what she's saying most of the time. Some people get passes is all I'm saying. I don't know who this journalist is but she deserved to get fired for this. I normally defend the free speech angle but the joke doesn't actually work on any level that isn't racist. If labour fires Dianne Abbot, they will lose their black vote Is she the only black female mp? No, there is David Lami but he’s not as famous as Dianne Abbot. She’s the shadow HS Also there is Chukka Umuna and I am sure other but not very high profile I said female you Narna. " Errmmm I’m not sexist. | |||
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"If we're being honest, it's only as bad as things diane abbott has said and never been fired for What did she say? I don't think Diane Abbott knows what she's saying most of the time. Some people get passes is all I'm saying. I don't know who this journalist is but she deserved to get fired for this. I normally defend the free speech angle but the joke doesn't actually work on any level that isn't racist. If labour fires Dianne Abbot, they will lose their black vote Is she the only black female mp? No, there is David Lami but he’s not as famous as Dianne Abbot. She’s the shadow HS Also there is Chukka Umuna and I am sure other but not very high profile I said female you Narna. Errmmm I’m not sexist. " Get with the program | |||
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"I was doubly impressed with Starbucks, tho I don't know what the racism was in that instance. I haven't read it yet. Starbucks had two African-American men arrested while they were waiting for a friend to join them, because they didn't order anything. No other reason. Maybe not Starbucks but somebody who works or was at Starbucks don’t you think? For Starbucks to close so many shops yesterday for training because of this, it suggests that there is a problem across the company. Don't forget that this us the company who, in this country, have refused to serve members of the public wanting to buy food and drink for homeless people, in the midst of the Beast from the East, no less. A company who are all heart. I suggest their actions yesterday were an attempt to salvage their reputation in America. actually i am going to give starbucks a pass here because this incident was part of a few that came out at the same time where there were white people calling police about black people going about their normal lives and they getting a grilling the incident about the black yale student who fell asleep in here common room area whilst studying, and a white student rang to claim shewas trespassing.... the incident where a white person called police after seeing black people coming out of a house with luggage where in fact they had rented the room via airbnb...... the incident where a white person called the police about a black family having a bbq in a park..... so there were a few of these going on at the same time.... which brought the unconcious bias conversation up" These other incidents don't take away from the fact that what happened in Starbucks was racial profiling. | |||
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"I honestly think people need to get off social media.... It really is doing more harm than good I'm not so sure. We only tend to see the bad in it. It does a lot of good too. " In what sense. Would be helpful for me to understand why you think it 'does a lot of good' too. Please be specific! | |||
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"I honestly think people need to get off social media.... It really is doing more harm than good I'm not so sure. We only tend to see the bad in it. It does a lot of good too. In what sense. Would be helpful for me to understand why you think it 'does a lot of good' too. Please be specific!" My daughter's lost dog was found via people sharing on social media. People raise money for good causes on social media too. | |||
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"If we're being honest, it's only as bad as things diane abbott has said and never been fired for What did she say? I don't think Diane Abbott knows what she's saying most of the time. Some people get passes is all I'm saying. I don't know who this journalist is but she deserved to get fired for this. I normally defend the free speech angle but the joke doesn't actually work on any level that isn't racist. If labour fires Dianne Abbot, they will lose their black vote Is she the only black female mp? This is what I don't get. What is this obsession with Dianne Abbot? Why has she been brought up in a topic concerning Roseanne Barr? Please explain. If she has made a Twitter post or comment concerning this issue, please post what she said. I think there is an obsession of Dianne Abbot going on here... Btw I'm not really a fan of Dianne Abbott. I don't particularly like her or hate her. She's just a professional politician like the rest of 'em. Is this a derailment of the post onto Dianne Abbot? Is this the most unsophisticated troll attempt ever. ?
You don't have the same outrage when the fresh prince comes into the conversation "That's because I found Fresh Prince of Bel Air even less funny than Roseanne. I watched neither programme and didn't quite understand those who did. How stereotypical of you to assume that I would like it! Now I dealt with that deflection. Back to the original question. Why the obsession with Dianne Abbot? Do you fancy her? Just be honest. You seem to be rather fixated. I'm giving you the perfect opportunity to express yourself. Don't hold back! | |||
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"I honestly think people need to get off social media.... It really is doing more harm than good I'm not so sure. We only tend to see the bad in it. It does a lot of good too. In what sense. Would be helpful for me to understand why you think it 'does a lot of good' too. Please be specific! My daughter's lost dog was found via people sharing on social media. People raise money for good causes on social media too." Ah. My bad. I thought she meant good resulting from Barr's post, as opposed to social media doing good. | |||
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"If we're being honest, it's only as bad as things diane abbott has said and never been fired for What did she say? I don't think Diane Abbott knows what she's saying most of the time. Some people get passes is all I'm saying. I don't know who this journalist is but she deserved to get fired for this. I normally defend the free speech angle but the joke doesn't actually work on any level that isn't racist. If labour fires Dianne Abbot, they will lose their black vote Is she the only black female mp? This is what I don't get. What is this obsession with Dianne Abbot? Why has she been brought up in a topic concerning Roseanne Barr? Please explain. If she has made a Twitter post or comment concerning this issue, please post what she said. I think there is an obsession of Dianne Abbot going on here... Btw I'm not really a fan of Dianne Abbott. I don't particularly like her or hate her. She's just a professional politician like the rest of 'em. Is this a derailment of the post onto Dianne Abbot? Is this the most unsophisticated troll attempt ever. ?
You don't have the same outrage when the fresh prince comes into the conversation
That's because I found Fresh Prince of Bel Air even less funny than Roseanne. I watched neither programme and didn't quite understand those who did. How stereotypical of you to assume that I would like it!
Now I dealt with that deflection.
Back to the original question. Why the obsession with Dianne Abbot?
Do you fancy her?
Just be honest. You seem to be rather fixated.
I'm giving you the perfect opportunity to express yourself. Don't hold back!"It's as simple as i don't think she deserves her free pass! We're here discussing how outrageous the comments of some nobody journalist are whilst one of the most prominent women in british politics doesn't this kind of thing on a regular basis. | |||
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"Is it racist to call a white person an ape? If not, why not? What's wrong with apes I want to know? Only white ape I know is Jeremy Clarkson.. boom! What about Boris? He’s not very intelligent "Smart though. Certainly more so than many of the people who think he's ace(for some bizarre, self flagellating reason. | |||
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Smart though. Certainly more so than many of the people who think he's ace(for some bizarre, self flagellating reason."I think he is exactly what you call a longer schlong | |||
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"If we're being honest, it's only as bad as things diane abbott has said and never been fired for What did she say? I don't think Diane Abbott knows what she's saying most of the time. Some people get passes is all I'm saying. I don't know who this journalist is but she deserved to get fired for this. I normally defend the free speech angle but the joke doesn't actually work on any level that isn't racist. If labour fires Dianne Abbot, they will lose their black vote Is she the only black female mp? This is what I don't get. What is this obsession with Dianne Abbot? Why has she been brought up in a topic concerning Roseanne Barr? Please explain. If she has made a Twitter post or comment concerning this issue, please post what she said. I think there is an obsession of Dianne Abbot going on here... Btw I'm not really a fan of Dianne Abbott. I don't particularly like her or hate her. She's just a professional politician like the rest of 'em. Is this a derailment of the post onto Dianne Abbot? Is this the most unsophisticated troll attempt ever. ?
You don't have the same outrage when the fresh prince comes into the conversation
That's because I found Fresh Prince of Bel Air even less funny than Roseanne. I watched neither programme and didn't quite understand those who did. How stereotypical of you to assume that I would like it!
Now I dealt with that deflection.
Back to the original question. Why the obsession with Dianne Abbot?
Do you fancy her?
Just be honest. You seem to be rather fixated.
I'm giving you the perfect opportunity to express yourself. Don't hold back!
It's as simple as i don't think she deserves her free pass! We're here discussing how outrageous the comments of some nobody journalist are whilst one of the most prominent women in british politics doesn't this kind of thing on a regular basis. "Uh huh. Yeah right. Let me post an emoji in your behalf.
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Smart though. Certainly more so than many of the people who think he's ace(for some bizarre, self flagellating reason.
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"What part of what Barr said do you find racist ? " Possibly the intention was racist, but that cant be proven, certainly the resulting outrage and misquoting is racist. But actual tweet was about a person not a race, and referred to a planet and a fundamentalist group not an ape. So in my opinion Rossane is not as much a racist as the mob accusing her. | |||
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"Is it true that they have axed the new show because of it. If so I think it's an absolute disgrace. She should get her arsed kicked for sure but to cancel a whole show because of one person's mistake is beyond ridiculous. I think it's shocking x" We talked about this. Someone (Barr) has just put others out of work (the other actors) because of her outburst. I’ve reread it and tried to find how she thought she’d get away with saying what she did. | |||
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"Is it racist to call a white person an ape? If not, why not? Here is my question, can you be a brown ape! " Is an Orang Utan a Ginger ? | |||
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" Just for the record. I never said it wasn't racist. . "As I said I didn't see the racism in the tweet and you have tried to contact me privately " To be fair you did in this thread. Yep, I can see now that it could be misconstrued BUT I said I couldn't see the racism. I never said it wasn't racist. I did ask for an explanation." So there is a historical context where the idea was advanced that black people were more primitive than other races. A lot of people misunderstand evolution and think we evolved from apes. So there's a history of racist jokes likening black people to apes. The planet of the apes is populated by apes and the person is black, so it's hard to know what else that would be a reference to. There are over 1 billion muslims in the world and there is no single look they have. Check out the chinese muslims for more details. Furthermore, the muslim brotherhood is not a national specific organisation so again, it appears to be used as a term for insult. I really can't think of a plausible, non-racist explanation for how that 'joke' works. But I'm open to hear it if you can? | |||
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"Is it racist to call a white person an ape? If not, why not? Here is my question, can you be a brown ape! Is an Orang Utan a Ginger ?" Kanye west’s New album? | |||
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" Just for the record. I never said it wasn't racist. . "As I said I didn't see the racism in the tweet and you have tried to contact me privately " To be fair you did in this thread. Yep, I can see now that it could be misconstrued BUT I said I couldn't see the racism. I never said it wasn't racist. I did ask for an explanation. So there is a historical context where the idea was advanced that black people were more primitive than other races. A lot of people misunderstand evolution and think we evolved from apes. So there's a history of racist jokes likening black people to apes. The planet of the apes is populated by apes and the person is black, so it's hard to know what else that would be a reference to. There are over 1 billion muslims in the world and there is no single look they have. Check out the chinese muslims for more details. Furthermore, the muslim brotherhood is not a national specific organisation so again, it appears to be used as a term for insult. I really can't think of a plausible, non-racist explanation for how that 'joke' works. But I'm open to hear it if you can?" Talking Stove ( i think the name is ) gave that explanation a while back. I thanked him because he was the first person to give an explanation behind the interpreting of the comment. | |||
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" Just for the record. I never said it wasn't racist. . "As I said I didn't see the racism in the tweet and you have tried to contact me privately " To be fair you did in this thread. Yep, I can see now that it could be misconstrued BUT I said I couldn't see the racism. I never said it wasn't racist. I did ask for an explanation. So there is a historical context where the idea was advanced that black people were more primitive than other races. A lot of people misunderstand evolution and think we evolved from apes. So there's a history of racist jokes likening black people to apes. The planet of the apes is populated by apes and the person is black, so it's hard to know what else that would be a reference to. There are over 1 billion muslims in the world and there is no single look they have. Check out the chinese muslims for more details. Furthermore, the muslim brotherhood is not a national specific organisation so again, it appears to be used as a term for insult. I really can't think of a plausible, non-racist explanation for how that 'joke' works. But I'm open to hear it if you can?" I don't think her comments were meant as a joke. It was sneering bigotry in my book. No joke. | |||
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"What part of what Barr said do you find racist ? Possibly the intention was racist, but that cant be proven, certainly the resulting outrage and misquoting is racist. But actual tweet was about a person not a race, and referred to a planet and a fundamentalist group not an ape. So in my opinion Rossane is not as much a racist as the mob accusing her. " Nah. She said 'planet of the apes' not planet. A planet can't have a baby with a muslim. | |||
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" Just for the record. I never said it wasn't racist. . "As I said I didn't see the racism in the tweet and you have tried to contact me privately " To be fair you did in this thread. Yep, I can see now that it could be misconstrued BUT I said I couldn't see the racism. I never said it wasn't racist. . But if you can't see the racism how do you know it wasn't racist? * my head hurts so it could just be me*" Nooooooo. Read my wiggly lips ... I never said it wasn't racist I wanted someone to tell me why it was racist.
Truth is i'd heard it constantly referred to as a 'racist comment' but no one saying what the comment was or why it was racist.
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Truth is i'd heard it constantly referred to as a 'racist comment' but no one saying what the comment was or why it was racist.
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"No. Im just asking what part you didnt find racist ? Thank you. I'll take your word for it even though your post above clearly implies that by asking a question I am. That's a good way of co-ercing people into accepting without question isn't it. Pointing a finger , calling names and labelling. What part of what Barr said do you find racist ? Having read a fair few of your posts on numerous threads I can only come to the conclusion you're a WUM. Not for one minute do I think you're a 63yo woman for a second, you come across as a teenage boy/immature man in most of your posts. Oh and even someone seriously lacking in the IQ dept would lack the awareness that that tweet isn't racist.
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" . But if you can't see the racism how do you know it wasn't racist? * my head hurts so it could just be me* Nooooooo. Read my wiggly lips ... I never said it wasn't racist I wanted someone to tell me why it was racist.
Truth is i'd heard it constantly referred to as a 'racist comment' but no one saying what the comment was or why it was racist.
Paracetamol ?
"It hasn't got any easier to figure out as your first post was demanding the man admit to calling you racist because you didn't think it was a racist tweet...it still reads that way to me, so I think I may need more than paracetamol . I think you are just too clever for me Gwanny | |||
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" . But if you can't see the racism how do you know it wasn't racist? * my head hurts so it could just be me* Nooooooo. Read my wiggly lips ... I never said it wasn't racist I wanted someone to tell me why it was racist.
Truth is i'd heard it constantly referred to as a 'racist comment' but no one saying what the comment was or why it was racist.
Paracetamol ?
It hasn't got any easier to figure out as your first post was demanding the man admit to calling you racist because you didn't think it was a racist tweet...it still reads that way to me, so I think I may need more than paracetamol . I think you are just too clever for me Gwanny"It read that way to me as well. | |||
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"I didnt call anyone a racist. I just could not understand why Granny could not see Barrs tweet as racist. That was all. I certainly didnt want an argument about some over paid overated bigot." Nothing good has come out of this or will. | |||
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"Is it racist to call a white person an ape? If not, why not? What's wrong with apes I want to know? Only white ape I know is Jeremy Clarkson.. boom! What about Boris? He’s not very intelligent "What utter nonsense ! How can anyone who comes out with a phrase like ‘ tank topped bum boys ‘ , to describe gay men not be intelligent | |||
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"No. Im just asking what part you didnt find racist ? Thank you. I'll take your word for it even though your post above clearly implies that by asking a question I am. That's a good way of co-ercing people into accepting without question isn't it. Pointing a finger , calling names and labelling. What part of what Barr said do you find racist ? Having read a fair few of your posts on numerous threads I can only come to the conclusion you're a WUM. Not for one minute do I think you're a 63yo woman for a second, you come across as a teenage boy/immature man in most of your posts. Oh and even someone seriously lacking in the IQ dept would lack the awareness that that tweet isn't racist.
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"What did she do I cant find her quote I would be interested to see what she actually said. I believe she likened Barrack Obama to an ape." omg | |||
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How can anyone who comes out with a phrase like ‘ tank topped bum boys ‘ , to describe gay men not be intelligent
Don't make me laugh loud.... the neighbours , the neighbours. "I quote frankie Boyle, Benders are easily offended | |||
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" . But if you can't see the racism how do you know it wasn't racist? * my head hurts so it could just be me* Nooooooo. Read my wiggly lips ... I never said it wasn't racist I wanted someone to tell me why it was racist.
Truth is i'd heard it constantly referred to as a 'racist comment' but no one saying what the comment was or why it was racist.
Paracetamol ?
It hasn't got any easier to figure out as your first post was demanding the man admit to calling you racist because you didn't think it was a racist tweet...it still reads that way to me, so I think I may need more than paracetamol . I think you are just too clever for me Gwanny"No im not. The comment started on another thread. Guess that's why. | |||
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"No. Im just asking what part you didnt find racist ? Thank you. I'll take your word for it even though your post above clearly implies that by asking a question I am. That's a good way of co-ercing people into accepting without question isn't it. Pointing a finger , calling names and labelling. What part of what Barr said do you find racist ? Having read a fair few of your posts on numerous threads I can only come to the conclusion you're a WUM. Not for one minute do I think you're a 63yo woman for a second, you come across as a teenage boy/immature man in most of your posts. Oh and even someone seriously lacking in the IQ dept would lack the awareness that that tweet isn't racist.
So you are saying _ranny-crumpet is a man pretending to be a woman?
I believe she's a actually a crumpet, pretending to be a woman
Butter me all over and roast me."I'll just leave you in the forum to be roasted... In the mood for some crumpets now | |||
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"No. Im just asking what part you didnt find racist ? Thank you. I'll take your word for it even though your post above clearly implies that by asking a question I am. That's a good way of co-ercing people into accepting without question isn't it. Pointing a finger , calling names and labelling. What part of what Barr said do you find racist ? Having read a fair few of your posts on numerous threads I can only come to the conclusion you're a WUM. Not for one minute do I think you're a 63yo woman for a second, you come across as a teenage boy/immature man in most of your posts. Oh and even someone seriously lacking in the IQ dept would lack the awareness that that tweet isn't racist.
So you are saying _ranny-crumpet is a man pretending to be a woman?
I believe she's a actually a crumpet, pretending to be a woman
Butter me all over and roast me.
I'll just leave you in the forum to be roasted... In the mood for some crumpets now"Well It won't be for long | |||
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"Some people are racist without even knowing it. Already this morning somebody couldnt connect her tweet about comparing that black lady to an ape to being racist. heard some really interesting stuff about 'unconscious bias' in the media this week, connected to Starbucks closing all their sites in the USA to do equality training after 2 black guys arrested for fuck all in one of their coffee shops. Made me reflect on what my unconscious biases are... a phrase I'd probably heard before but not really taken much notice of. Roseanne has not been a bit funny for years. "No unconscious bias, Never found her funny just loud She has been a right winger and trump supporter for a long time I find it ironic that her little brain has suggested an ex president should not dabble in show biz. Yet seems perfectly comfortable that show biz people can be president , i.e. trump is and she want to be She is just a brash not nice person, but she does support the moron president fart | |||
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