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"Are you taking the piss" Contempt of court is a criminal offence that can see people jailed for speeches or publications that create a "substantial risk that the course of justice in the proceedings in question will be seriously impeded or prejudiced". Robinson is already under a suspended sentence for committing contempt of court over a gang assault (sic by poster) case heard in Canterbury last year. Judge Heather Norton handed him a three months imprisonment in May last year but suspended it for 18 months on the condition he did not commit further offences. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/tommy-robinson-arrested-leeds-court-child-grooming-trial-edl-founder-latest-a8368821.html He knew the score. Regardless of what you think of the case under trial it is a fundamental tenet of English Law that people are innocent until proven guilty. Tommy Robinson could well have prejudiced the case (potentially leading to it's dismissal and the accused walking free). | |||
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"Are you taking the piss Contempt of court is a criminal offence that can see people jailed for speeches or publications that create a "substantial risk that the course of justice in the proceedings in question will be seriously impeded or prejudiced". Robinson is already under a suspended sentence for committing contempt of court over a gang assault (sic by poster) case heard in Canterbury last year. Judge Heather Norton handed him a three months imprisonment in May last year but suspended it for 18 months on the condition he did not commit further offences. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/tommy-robinson-arrested-leeds-court-child-grooming-trial-edl-founder-latest-a8368821.html He knew the score. Regardless of what you think of the case under trial it is a fundamental tenet of English Law that people are innocent until proven guilty. Tommy Robinson could well have prejudiced the case (potentially leading to it's dismissal and the accused walking free)." so would you have preferred it kept in the dark or in public I no as a parent I want to no and ok as you say he broke the law lets see the outcome of the trial | |||
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"Are you taking the piss Contempt of court is a criminal offence that can see people jailed for speeches or publications that create a "substantial risk that the course of justice in the proceedings in question will be seriously impeded or prejudiced". Robinson is already under a suspended sentence for committing contempt of court over a gang assault (sic by poster) case heard in Canterbury last year. Judge Heather Norton handed him a three months imprisonment in May last year but suspended it for 18 months on the condition he did not commit further offences. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/tommy-robinson-arrested-leeds-court-child-grooming-trial-edl-founder-latest-a8368821.html He knew the score. Regardless of what you think of the case under trial it is a fundamental tenet of English Law that people are innocent until proven guilty. Tommy Robinson could well have prejudiced the case (potentially leading to it's dismissal and the accused walking free)." Let's not let silly things like the law get in the way of this outrage! Tommy knows exactly what he is doing. he knew he would get arrested for doing it, that's why he filmed it! There's no such thing as bad publicity huh and stirring up the EDL masses by claiming wrongful arrest and the end of free speech just gets his name out there more. | |||
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"Are you taking the piss Contempt of court is a criminal offence that can see people jailed for speeches or publications that create a "substantial risk that the course of justice in the proceedings in question will be seriously impeded or prejudiced". Robinson is already under a suspended sentence for committing contempt of court over a gang assault (sic by poster) case heard in Canterbury last year. Judge Heather Norton handed him a three months imprisonment in May last year but suspended it for 18 months on the condition he did not commit further offences. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/tommy-robinson-arrested-leeds-court-child-grooming-trial-edl-founder-latest-a8368821.html He knew the score. Regardless of what you think of the case under trial it is a fundamental tenet of English Law that people are innocent until proven guilty. Tommy Robinson could well have prejudiced the case (potentially leading to it's dismissal and the accused walking free).so would you have preferred it kept in the dark or in public I no as a parent I want to no and ok as you say he broke the law lets see the outcome of the trial " Which trial? His or the one he was filming outside? | |||
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"You can't educate pork no point " What's that supposed to mean? | |||
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"You can't educate pork no point " Which side are you describing as pork? | |||
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"Oh please, not here too. He's a bloody racist thug. He deserves to be locked up and the key thrown away. He doesnt even use his real name... Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon, known by the pseudonym Tommy Robinson, and previously by Andrew McMaster and Paul Harris. He is no stranger to the police having been arrested numerous times for football hooliganism. Is this a man you look up to? Really?" I thought I recognised the name. Thank you for confirming. Sexual preferences is one thing on here and we’ve no problem with that. Racism is quite another  | |||
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"How is it racist reporting on a trial,that involved children ?" Tommy Robinson is a racist thug. Two of you in this thread clear supporters. Leaving the thread. Answer the questions others are posing to you  | |||
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"Are you taking the piss Contempt of court is a criminal offence that can see people jailed for speeches or publications that create a "substantial risk that the course of justice in the proceedings in question will be seriously impeded or prejudiced". Robinson is already under a suspended sentence for committing contempt of court over a gang assault (sic by poster) case heard in Canterbury last year. Judge Heather Norton handed him a three months imprisonment in May last year but suspended it for 18 months on the condition he did not commit further offences. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/tommy-robinson-arrested-leeds-court-child-grooming-trial-edl-founder-latest-a8368821.html He knew the score. Regardless of what you think of the case under trial it is a fundamental tenet of English Law that people are innocent until proven guilty. Tommy Robinson could well have prejudiced the case (potentially leading to it's dismissal and the accused walking free).so would you have preferred it kept in the dark or in public I no as a parent I want to no and ok as you say he broke the law lets see the outcome of the trial Which trial? His or the one he was filming outside? " not his | |||
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"Oh please, not here too. He's a bloody racist thug. He deserves to be locked up and the key thrown away. He doesnt even use his real name... Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon, known by the pseudonym Tommy Robinson, and previously by Andrew McMaster and Paul Harris. He is no stranger to the police having been arrested numerous times for football hooliganism. Is this a man you look up to? Really? I thought I recognised the name. Thank you for confirming. Sexual preferences is one thing on here and we’ve no problem with that. Racism is quite another "He co founded the EDL. I find it difficult to comprehend how anyone can look up to him. He knew he was going to be arrested hense recording it. He also knew his arrest would stir up the neanderthal EDL followers. Im sure he gets off on trouble. | |||
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"How is it racist reporting on a trial,that involved children ? Tommy Robinson is a racist thug. Two of you in this thread clear supporters. Leaving the thread. Answer the questions others are posing to you "im not rasict and he might be all the things people are saying how ever as a parent then I feel it should be open too the public | |||
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"How is it racist reporting on a trial,that involved children ? Tommy Robinson is a racist thug. Two of you in this thread clear supporters. Leaving the thread. Answer the questions others are posing to you im not rasict and he might be all the things people are saying how ever as a parent then I feel it should be open too the public "I'm sorry, but you have no right whatsoever to know anything about a trial unless you are directly involved. You don't need to know either. The verdict is public, not the proceedings of the trial. If you want to know what's happening then go to the trial and sit in the public gallery. | |||
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"How is it racist reporting on a trial,that involved children ?" Does he film himself outside white paedophile trials as well? | |||
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"Are you taking the piss Contempt of court is a criminal offence that can see people jailed for speeches or publications that create a "substantial risk that the course of justice in the proceedings in question will be seriously impeded or prejudiced". Robinson is already under a suspended sentence for committing contempt of court over a gang assault (sic by poster) case heard in Canterbury last year. Judge Heather Norton handed him a three months imprisonment in May last year but suspended it for 18 months on the condition he did not commit further offences. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/tommy-robinson-arrested-leeds-court-child-grooming-trial-edl-founder-latest-a8368821.html He knew the score. Regardless of what you think of the case under trial it is a fundamental tenet of English Law that people are innocent until proven guilty. Tommy Robinson could well have prejudiced the case (potentially leading to it's dismissal and the accused walking free).so would you have preferred it kept in the dark or in public I no as a parent I want to no and ok as you say he broke the law lets see the outcome of the trial Which trial? His or the one he was filming outside? not his" Well just perhaps without his intervention the victims of that abhorrant crime will get the justice they deserve. Either way he wins. He's arrested to protect the case and his band of numpties are up in arms or he is allowed to prejudice the case by his reporting and influencing the jury and the case is thrown out, the guilty walk free and again his party have cause to riot. Fecking imbeciles the lot of them. | |||
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"How is it racist reporting on a trial,that involved children ? Does he film himself outside white paedophile trials as well? " not sure on that 1 but if someone did then he / she would be put into the common bracket the racist | |||
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"now that freedom of speech has gone does that mean there is no speakers corner now ???" Freedom of speech isn’t gone. You can pretty much kiss it goodby if you yourself choose to stop speaking out about what you feel strongly about. Your free to say what you want, but if your a dick, no-one is going to listen to, or support your views.....apart from other dicks. | |||
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"You can't educate pork no point What's that supposed to mean? " Still waiting for an answer to this as well.... If you're gonna make a statement at least have the balls to back it up. | |||
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"How is it racist reporting on a trial,that involved children ?" Do you honestly believe he cares who the victims are? Ive never heard of him filming outside courts where white paedophiles are being tried. What is his party doing directly to support the victims of these crimes? Fuck all. He just wants to incite racial hatred and violence. | |||
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"How is it racist reporting on a trial,that involved children ? Does he film himself outside white paedophile trials as well? not sure on that 1 but if someone did then he / she would be put into the common bracket the racist "I don't really understand s the point you're trying to make with your rolly eyes | |||
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"How is it racist reporting on a trial,that involved children ? Does he film himself outside white paedophile trials as well? not sure on that 1 but if someone did then he / she would be put into the common bracket the racist "Im not getting your logic. If Tommy Robinson had done the same outside the trial of a gang of white British paedophiles how could that be racist? It would still be wrong and he would still be in breach of his suspended sentence..... but he wouldn't be bothered with the white British paedophile trial.... he doesn't give a damn about those victims any more than he does the ones who's trial he was jeopardizing. | |||
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"Go on you tube look at Tommy Robinson arrest" Free speech comes with responsibilites,as with any freedom,public incitement is abuse of that freedom. | |||
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"How is it racist reporting on a trial,that involved children ? Does he film himself outside white paedophile trials as well? not sure on that 1 but if someone did then he / she would be put into the common bracket the racist
I don't really understand s the point you're trying to make with your rolly eyes "I just liked them lol | |||
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"One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter , you pick what side your on ." Yes Im quite sure the Hitler Youth were proud of their cause too. Still another filter thread. | |||
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"One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter , you pick what side your on ." A sophistic argument at best. I know which side I'm on, British. I stand for Justice and the Rule of Law. Apparently this is not the side that Tommy Robinson (or his supporters) has chosen. I'm also a supporter of the well written sentence and proof reading.... | |||
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"One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter , you pick what side your on ." The irony of using the phrase freedom fighter for a vile racist like Robinson and his fascist ideology is evidence of your own twisted views.. | |||
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"Answer me this , why did none of the seiks outside the court arrested?" If you could tell me what a seik is then I'll engage you | |||
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"sikhs" Probably because they had no media profile and weren't under direct instruction by the courts not to protest outside a courtroom and to not disrupt and active trial... | |||
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"the public have a right to no the media wont cover it I think tommy Robison is doing a good job " the public DO NOT have a right that’s the whole point, the judge had placed reporting restrictions on the case after a conviction they would be lifted. I’m order to not prejudice the case he placed the restrictions and the fool has placed any conviction in jeopardy. By all means shout about it, but after the conviction. Wasted a load of tax payers money, ruined a trial and then his supporters bleat about it. The scumbags need to be locked up and people thinking mob rule is ok are ruining any chance the police have of securing convictions. | |||
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"I despair, the pointless hate and vitriol towards people who are "threatening Britishness " what is Britain but a merging of societies through the ages. There is no one genetic thing that is British, check your DNA you are made up of people's from many countries. People move and migrate they always have and always will. The only solution is to take down all borders , have one world government spread the wealth and resources saved by not fighting incessantly. And live in peace on this beautiful fucking planet. " | |||
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"I've fought the urge to block friends on FB for posting about how this vile excuse of a human should be released. As others have put it would he be outside the old bailey if it was the likes of Gary glitter on trial? I seriously doubt it" I fall out with family because their posts on Facebook. | |||
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"I've fought the urge to block friends on FB for posting about how this vile excuse of a human should be released. As others have put it would he be outside the old bailey if it was the likes of Gary glitter on trial? I seriously doubt it I fall out with family because their posts on Facebook. " Ive blocked my mother and sister over it. Fecking illinformed, bigoted, racist twats | |||
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"They where there for the same reason , just like all snow flakes , you try to justify you side " As do most of the semi literate idiots on your side... If you're going to get personal with me.... | |||
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"I've fought the urge to block friends on FB for posting about how this vile excuse of a human should be released. As others have put it would he be outside the old bailey if it was the likes of Gary glitter on trial? I seriously doubt it I fall out with family because their posts on Facebook. Oh big mistake. As "Jonathan Pie" says, don't block racists engage with them. Fascism thrives underground, you can't change backward opinions by ignoring them..... Ive blocked my mother and sister over it. Fecking illinformed, bigoted, racist twats" If I racist is shouting in a forest, and no one is there to listen....is he really saying anything?  | |||
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"This is nonsense. You are not entitled to disrupt a trial. Tommy Robinson was breaching the peace and his arrest is right and proper." Utter bollocks. Have you actually seen the footage prior to and up to his arrest? | |||
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"This is nonsense. You are not entitled to disrupt a trial. Tommy Robinson was breaching the peace and his arrest is right and proper. Utter bollocks. Have you actually seen the footage prior to and up to his arrest?" Fuck TOMMY either way the racist prick | |||
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"How is it racist reporting on a trial,that involved children ? Tommy Robinson is a racist thug. Two of you in this thread clear supporters. Leaving the thread. Answer the questions others are posing to you im not rasict and he might be all the things people are saying how ever as a parent then I feel it should be open too the public
I'm sorry, but you have no right whatsoever to know anything about a trial unless you are directly involved. You don't need to know either. The verdict is public, not the proceedings of the trial. If you want to know what's happening then go to the trial and sit in the public gallery."On this point, I agree..... | |||
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"This is nonsense. You are not entitled to disrupt a trial. Tommy Robinson was breaching the peace and his arrest is right and proper. Utter bollocks. Have you actually seen the footage prior to and up to his arrest?" Yes I have. Do you know anything about the law? | |||
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"This is nonsense. You are not entitled to disrupt a trial. Tommy Robinson was breaching the peace and his arrest is right and proper. Utter bollocks. Have you actually seen the footage prior to and up to his arrest? Fuck TOMMY either way the racist prick " TOMMEH was actually jeopardising a criminal trial. The last time he disrupted a trial He was told in no uncertain terms that if he did this AGAIN he would be locked up. He did it again. And got locked up. Attention seeking manipulative little wanker. He'll now cash in as people contribute towards his "defence". Oh, and hes lied about being attacked in prison too. Hope he gets a long sentence. So, in point of fact, what's happened is defending the independence of the judicial process from venal little pricks like TOMMEH. | |||
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"This is nonsense. You are not entitled to disrupt a trial. Tommy Robinson was breaching the peace and his arrest is right and proper. Utter bollocks. Have you actually seen the footage prior to and up to his arrest? Yes I have. Do you know anything about the law?" Quite a bit. | |||
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"I've fought the urge to block friends on FB for posting about how this vile excuse of a human should be released. As others have put it would he be outside the old bailey if it was the likes of Gary glitter on trial? I seriously doubt it I fall out with family because their posts on Facebook. Oh big mistake. As "Jonathan Pie" says, don't block racists engage with them. Fascism thrives underground, you can't change backward opinions by ignoring them..... Ive blocked my mother and sister over it. Fecking illinformed, bigoted, racist twats If I racist is shouting in a forest, and no one is there to listen....is he really saying anything? "I'm happy to contribute to a one way ticket to some remote forest (perhaps in Canada or somewhere) so we can get a definitive answer to that question | |||
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"How is it racist reporting on a trial,that involved children ? Does he film himself outside white paedophile trials as well? " Not to my knowledge and let's face it there is plenty of WHITE paedophile rings/gangs! Tommy is a racist thug whose well known to police, football hooliganism is one of his many crimes how many of the people on this thread are parents and are sticking up for the thug even tho he has subjected children to witnessing his violent crimes in football grounds ......... he's just as bad as the paedophiles!!! | |||
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"Explain how he can influance a jury from out side a court?" This is such a big case there are 3 separate trials being processed, one of which hasn't started yet. If details from one trial gets out into the public domain any defense lawyer worth their salt will argue that the trial has been compromised and that the defendants won't get a fair trial. He's been warned about it before, he's previously come very close to screwing up two previous trials - if he does this, there's a reasonable chance that guilty people go free. | |||
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He claims he is concerned for the victims so why was he not in Coventry recently when 10 people were convicted for child sex crimes going back 30 years?
Simple - the perpetrators were white, it doesn't suit his agenda to highlight white part of - he's a racist scumbag cultivating a worrying cult of personality. | |||
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"How is it racist reporting on a trial,that involved children ?" So why does he not do this outside the trials of the hundreds of white people being done for child abuse all the time?!?!? He doesn't care about the children this case affects, he only cares about his own publicity and stirring up more racial hatered! | |||
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"How is it racist reporting on a trial,that involved children ? So why does he not do this outside the trials of the hundreds of white people being done for child abuse all the time?!?!? He doesn't care about the children this case affects, he only cares about his own publicity and stirring up more racial hatered!" He also raises funds to further his cause by encouraging the public to finacially support him... why isn't part that money used to support the victims? He doesn't care about the victims, just stirring up a shit storm. | |||
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"Are you taking the piss Contempt of court is a criminal offence that can see people jailed for speeches or publications that create a "substantial risk that the course of justice in the proceedings in question will be seriously impeded or prejudiced". Robinson is already under a suspended sentence for committing contempt of court over a gang assault (sic by poster) case heard in Canterbury last year. Judge Heather Norton handed him a three months imprisonment in May last year but suspended it for 18 months on the condition he did not commit further offences. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/tommy-robinson-arrested-leeds-court-child-grooming-trial-edl-founder-latest-a8368821.html He knew the score. Regardless of what you think of the case under trial it is a fundamental tenet of English Law that people are innocent until proven guilty. Tommy Robinson could well have prejudiced the case (potentially leading to it's dismissal and the accused walking free).so would you have preferred it kept in the dark or in public I no as a parent I want to no and ok as you say he broke the law lets see the outcome of the trial " As a parent, I’d want to know that if my child was ever to suffer such an ordeal and was brave enough to report it and go through the tremendous pain involved in bringing their abusers to justice, that it wouldn’t all potentially come to nothing because of some vile, racist thug using my child’s abuse as a soap box for his hate speech. And as a humanist, I’d want that for any child, not just my own. | |||
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FREE TOMMY!!!!! | |||
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"Some of you people are fucking clueless!!!
FREE TOMMY!!!!! "Yeah right! He's a pinball Wizard | |||
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"Some of you people are fucking clueless!!!
FREE TOMMY!!!!! "You really need to educate yourself! He's a nuisance that doesn't know when to shut up and if he continues with his dramatic outbursts he will be enabling paedophiles to carry on walking the streets ........ he's just as bad as they are! A racist thug and children have had to witness his violent behaviour!! Do the poor children or parents of those children actually want him outside the court jeopardising the case ???? | |||
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"Some of you people are fucking clueless!!!
FREE TOMMY!!!!! "Clearly we're the clueless ones | |||
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"So the snow flakes has no answer , so uses bad language and gets angry , I rest my case lol" Er you were the first to start calling people names, claiming you can't educate pork! | |||
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"Explain how he can influance a jury from out side a court?" Jurers don't live inside the court for the duration of a trial you know! They have to leave the courtroom to go home. | |||
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"This is nonsense. You are not entitled to disrupt a trial. Tommy Robinson was breaching the peace and his arrest is right and proper." Some people have no clue. You are correct and he was warned that he would face arrest after his last trial, but he clearly wants to be seen as a martyr by people who are only interested in headlines | |||
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"Is this what fb is like?" Depends who your friends and family are. | |||
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"the public have a right to no the media wont cover it I think tommy Robison is doing a good job " I am sorry..... but actions have consequences! he knew he was on thin ice with his suspended sentence.. he pushed the line! maybe he thought he was above the law, he isn't!!! | |||
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"If there is a demo it should start at Buckingham palace as the queen during her coronation speech had to recite the magna carte which mentions freedom of speech and her DUTY to uphold it!!!The arrest was only the first move in a game of chess the government know there will be a backlash{ But how big?] and they will then be able to impose even more draconian measures,...See Eric Arther Blair he forseen this situation many many moons ago..Fiction becomes fact" Yeah,I'm sure the arrest of one bigot breaking the rules of his suspended sentence will lead to us all being oppressed. Take off your tin foil hat | |||
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"If there is a demo it should start at Buckingham palace as the queen during her coronation speech had to recite the magna carte which mentions freedom of speech and her DUTY to uphold it!!!The arrest was only the first move in a game of chess the government know there will be a backlash{ But how big?] and they will then be able to impose even more draconian measures,...See Eric Arther Blair he forseen this situation many many moons ago..Fiction becomes fact Yeah,I'm sure the arrest of one bigot breaking the rules of his suspended sentence will lead to us all being oppressed. Take off your tin foil hat" you’re quite funny you. | |||
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"now that freedom of speech has gone does that mean there is no speakers corner now ???" freedom of speech does not come with freedom of consequences He broke the terms of his suspended sentence. So him being banged up is perfectly reasonable. | |||
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"can see some dreadful repercussions in the wake of this.Where is our freedom of press and freedom of speech going in Briton today " nope..... he breached the terms of his PREVIOUS sentence.... if it had been this case alone i might have seen some of the faux outrage.. but he was lucky to escape jail time last time... and he tried pushing his luck again! | |||
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"If there is a demo it should start at Buckingham palace as the queen during her coronation speech had to recite the magna carte which mentions freedom of speech and her DUTY to uphold it!!!The arrest was only the first move in a game of chess the government know there will be a backlash{ But how big?] and they will then be able to impose even more draconian measures,...See Eric Arther Blair he forseen this situation many many moons ago..Fiction becomes fact Yeah,I'm sure the arrest of one bigot breaking the rules of his suspended sentence will lead to us all being oppressed. Take off your tin foil hat you’re quite funny you. "At least someones noticed  | |||
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"How is it racist reporting on a trial,that involved children ? So why does he not do this outside the trials of the hundreds of white people being done for child abuse all the time?!?!? He doesn't care about the children this case affects, he only cares about his own publicity and stirring up more racial hatered! He also raises funds to further his cause by encouraging the public to finacially support him... why isn't part that money used to support the victims? He doesn't care about the victims, just stirring up a shit storm." There is also a go fund me account set up to raise money for a legal team to mount a defence & fight his arrest - except there is no defence, the suspension of his sentence has been breached & he will serve the sentence for something he has already been found guilty of ... so he’s also fraudulently collecting money from his supporters who are too daft to know they are being fleeced by a conman  | |||
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"But this topic wont last long on here as free speak is nolong allowed in the UK. and by "free speech" you mean that he admitted committing contempt of court by publishing information that could prejudice an ongoing trial. cool!!!!!!!
you do wonder if some of the people screaming faux outrage actually really have any clue at all.....  "think your find that he was arrested for breach of the peace and he was reading from the Huddersfield examiner that had all the info and the ongoing trial was having its verdict read out the day. Fact | |||
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"i do wonder how many of the people screaming and proclaiming his innocence actually realise that HE pleaded guilty and admitted committing contempt of court by publishing information that could prejudice an ongoing trial..... also the other irony is that we only know this now and the guilty plea and the sentence given because journalists fought a legal order saying it could not be reported until after the trial....." His supporters don’t care what he’s done - you can’t educate the wilfully ignorant  | |||
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"But this topic wont last long on here as free speak is nolong allowed in the UK. and by "free speech" you mean that he admitted committing contempt of court by publishing information that could prejudice an ongoing trial. cool!!!!!!!
you do wonder if some of the people screaming faux outrage actually really have any clue at all..... think your find that he was arrested for breach of the peace and he was reading from the Huddersfield examiner that had all the info and the ongoing trial was having its verdict read out the day. Fact"He was arrested for incitement & breach of the peace. He’s under a suspended sentence for doing this previously so he knew he’d be jailed for it. Fact. | |||
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"Are you taking the piss Contempt of court is a criminal offence that can see people jailed for speeches or publications that create a "substantial risk that the course of justice in the proceedings in question will be seriously impeded or prejudiced". Robinson is already under a suspended sentence for committing contempt of court over a gang assault (sic by poster) case heard in Canterbury last year. Judge Heather Norton handed him a three months imprisonment in May last year but suspended it for 18 months on the condition he did not commit further offences. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/tommy-robinson-arrested-leeds-court-child-grooming-trial-edl-founder-latest-a8368821.html He knew the score. Regardless of what you think of the case under trial it is a fundamental tenet of English Law that people are innocent until proven guilty. Tommy Robinson could well have prejudiced the case (potentially leading to it's dismissal and the accused walking free).so would you have preferred it kept in the dark or in public I no as a parent I want to no and ok as you say he broke the law lets see the outcome of the trial " No. I'd rather he kept fucking quiet and not risk a mistrial and the accused going free. Why the fuck are the bnp so thick | |||
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"But this topic wont last long on here as free speak is nolong allowed in the UK. and by "free speech" you mean that he admitted committing contempt of court by publishing information that could prejudice an ongoing trial. cool!!!!!!!
you do wonder if some of the people screaming faux outrage actually really have any clue at all..... think your find that he was arrested for breach of the peace and he was reading from the Huddersfield examiner that had all the info and the ongoing trial was having its verdict read out the day. Fact"he may have been originally arrested for breach.... he was then charged with contempt... and he pleaded guilty!!! so you can scream "innocent" as much as you like... in court he pleaded guilty!!! unless you are saying he is not smart enough to know the legal system which i wouldn't buy since he was charge with the same offence and pleaded guilty to the same offence before only a few months ago... and in summing up of that case, that judge explicitly told him not to do the same thing again.... so unless the defense you want to mount is "amnesia"..... i think it is a stretch! | |||
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"Are you taking the piss Contempt of court is a criminal offence that can see people jailed for speeches or publications that create a "substantial risk that the course of justice in the proceedings in question will be seriously impeded or prejudiced". Robinson is already under a suspended sentence for committing contempt of court over a gang assault (sic by poster) case heard in Canterbury last year. Judge Heather Norton handed him a three months imprisonment in May last year but suspended it for 18 months on the condition he did not commit further offences. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/tommy-robinson-arrested-leeds-court-child-grooming-trial-edl-founder-latest-a8368821.html He knew the score. Regardless of what you think of the case under trial it is a fundamental tenet of English Law that people are innocent until proven guilty. Tommy Robinson could well have prejudiced the case (potentially leading to it's dismissal and the accused walking free).so would you have preferred it kept in the dark or in public I no as a parent I want to no and ok as you say he broke the law lets see the outcome of the trial No. I'd rather he kept fucking quiet and not risk a mistrial and the accused going free. Why the fuck are the bnp so thick " It’s a requirement for entry | |||
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"But this topic wont last long on here as free speak is nolong allowed in the UK. and by "free speech" you mean that he admitted committing contempt of court by publishing information that could prejudice an ongoing trial. cool!!!!!!!
you do wonder if some of the people screaming faux outrage actually really have any clue at all..... think your find that he was arrested for breach of the peace and he was reading from the Huddersfield examiner that had all the info and the ongoing trial was having its verdict read out the day. Fact
He was arrested for incitement & breach of the peace. He’s under a suspended sentence for doing this previously so he knew he’d be jailed for it.
Fact."has anyone actually seen the live Facebook video because there’s no incitement and there’s no breach of the peace, he was arrested, changed and sentenced in 2 hrs I don’t care who you are or what you’ve done, 2 hrs is not justice and am sorry if you all think he was in the wrong about reporting on facts about people abusing kids on the day of the verdict.. what’s this world coming to | |||
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"Explain how he can influance a jury from out side a court? Jurers don't live inside the court for the duration of a trial you know! They have to leave the courtroom to go home. " And shockingly, they’re also allowed to see the Internet, read papers & access social media ... therefore his actions can potentially prejudice the jury, leading to a mistrial & a guilty party going free. The defence team can claim the jury are not impartial and amistrial sees their clients walk free. That’s what he wants. No justice for the victims but Tommy & his band of fascist thugs get to protest again, claiming British justice is being soft on Muslims, causing further hatred & racism in society. No one wins but him. | |||
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"can see some dreadful repercussions in the wake of this.Where is our freedom of press and freedom of speech going in Briton today nope..... he breached the terms of his PREVIOUS sentence.... if it had been this case alone i might have seen some of the faux outrage.. but he was lucky to escape jail time last time... and he tried pushing his luck again!" Yes if your belief is strong in what you believe in you are prepared to suffer the consequences. I have a question you have room A which is full of Pakistani Muslim men laughing a joking about grooming and having sex with children. Or room B full of Tommy supports which one would you choose. Got to pick one ? | |||
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"But this topic wont last long on here as free speak is nolong allowed in the UK. and by "free speech" you mean that he admitted committing contempt of court by publishing information that could prejudice an ongoing trial. cool!!!!!!!
you do wonder if some of the people screaming faux outrage actually really have any clue at all..... think your find that he was arrested for breach of the peace and he was reading from the Huddersfield examiner that had all the info and the ongoing trial was having its verdict read out the day. Fact
He was arrested for incitement & breach of the peace. He’s under a suspended sentence for doing this previously so he knew he’d be jailed for it.
Fact. has anyone actually seen the live Facebook video because there’s no incitement and there’s no breach of the peace, he was arrested, changed and sentenced in 2 hrs I don’t care who you are or what you’ve done, 2 hrs is not justice and am sorry if you all think he was in the wrong about reporting on facts about people abusing kids on the day of the verdict.. what’s this world coming to "The ‘facts’ hadn’t yet been determined. That’s what was happening inside the court. And his actions were jeopardising justice for those poor children. What is this world coming to indeed... | |||
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"can see some dreadful repercussions in the wake of this.Where is our freedom of press and freedom of speech going in Briton today nope..... he breached the terms of his PREVIOUS sentence.... if it had been this case alone i might have seen some of the faux outrage.. but he was lucky to escape jail time last time... and he tried pushing his luck again! Yes if your belief is strong in what you believe in you are prepared to suffer the consequences. I have a question you have room A which is full of Pakistani Muslim men laughing a joking about grooming and having sex with children. Or room B full of Tommy supports which one would you choose. Got to pick one ?" Why do Tommy’s supporters think his opponents condone child abuse | |||
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"Explain how he can influance a jury from out side a court? Jurers don't live inside the court for the duration of a trial you know! They have to leave the courtroom to go home. And shockingly, they’re also allowed to see the Internet, read papers & access social media ... therefore his actions can potentially prejudice the jury, leading to a mistrial & a guilty party going free. The defence team can claim the jury are not impartial and amistrial sees their clients walk free. That’s what he wants. No justice for the victims but Tommy & his band of fascist thugs get to protest again, claiming British justice is being soft on Muslims, causing further hatred & racism in society. No one wins but him." how can there be a miss trial on the day of the verdict and you find that the radical Muslims not the ones that are awesome to know and be friends with but the radical ones are causing hatred and racism in society but it’s a no no when anyone and I mean anyone says something that’s the injustice to the victims | |||
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"But this topic wont last long on here as free speak is nolong allowed in the UK. and by "free speech" you mean that he admitted committing contempt of court by publishing information that could prejudice an ongoing trial. cool!!!!!!!
you do wonder if some of the people screaming faux outrage actually really have any clue at all..... think your find that he was arrested for breach of the peace and he was reading from the Huddersfield examiner that had all the info and the ongoing trial was having its verdict read out the day. Fact
He was arrested for incitement & breach of the peace. He’s under a suspended sentence for doing this previously so he knew he’d be jailed for it.
Fact. has anyone actually seen the live Facebook video because there’s no incitement and there’s no breach of the peace, he was arrested, changed and sentenced in 2 hrs I don’t care who you are or what you’ve done, 2 hrs is not justice and am sorry if you all think he was in the wrong about reporting on facts about people abusing kids on the day of the verdict.. what’s this world coming to "He was under a suspended sentence for the same thing - which he pleaded guilty to. As soon as you breach your suspension, you are recalled to prison to serve his original sentence, so yes - this IS justice. He wasn’t ‘reporting facts’ as he is not a member of the affiliated press. If he wants to talk publically about it after the trial, great. Fill your boots. But before the trial is a breach of reporting restrictions & prejudicial - which could give the defence a technical mistrial. Which is the reason for the reporting restrictions in the first place. He’s also got a gofundme page set up to raise mo ey for his defence. What defence? The defence for the crime you’re in prison for, which you plead guilty to? Been & gone, so why is he fraudulently raising money for it?! | |||
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"can see some dreadful repercussions in the wake of this.Where is our freedom of press and freedom of speech going in Briton today nope..... he breached the terms of his PREVIOUS sentence.... if it had been this case alone i might have seen some of the faux outrage.. but he was lucky to escape jail time last time... and he tried pushing his luck again! Yes if your belief is strong in what you believe in you are prepared to suffer the consequences. I have a question you have room A which is full of Pakistani Muslim men laughing a joking about grooming and having sex with children. Or room B full of Tommy supports which one would you choose. Got to pick one ?" I don't think i will... thank you... wow..... having been "locked in" an irish pub on recommendation of the police because there were a lot of "tommy's" outside on one of their demo's chanting lots of not nice things about all and sundry.... that might be a harder decision than you think... but seriously... if you want to make tommy robinson the martyr you want to cross the line for, have at it.... if i'd escape jail time the first time round, and were told if you did the same thing again then don't expect the same result!. and then you go and do the same thing again, and plead guilty to the same thing again...... and then you expect the same result.... then you are a prize idiot!!! | |||
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"can see some dreadful repercussions in the wake of this.Where is our freedom of press and freedom of speech going in Briton today nope..... he breached the terms of his PREVIOUS sentence.... if it had been this case alone i might have seen some of the faux outrage.. but he was lucky to escape jail time last time... and he tried pushing his luck again! Yes if your belief is strong in what you believe in you are prepared to suffer the consequences. I have a question you have room A which is full of Pakistani Muslim men laughing a joking about grooming and having sex with children. Or room B full of Tommy supports which one would you choose. Got to pick one ?" Either... I would want to do my uttmost to educate the occupants of the room. You make an interesting point though. Not every Pakistani Muslim man is a paedophile, groomer or sex trafficker. However, every Tommy Robinson supporter is happy to be incited into fascist behaviour. | |||
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"Explain how he can influance a jury from out side a court? Jurers don't live inside the court for the duration of a trial you know! They have to leave the courtroom to go home. And shockingly, they’re also allowed to see the Internet, read papers & access social media ... therefore his actions can potentially prejudice the jury, leading to a mistrial & a guilty party going free. The defence team can claim the jury are not impartial and amistrial sees their clients walk free. That’s what he wants. No justice for the victims but Tommy & his band of fascist thugs get to protest again, claiming British justice is being soft on Muslims, causing further hatred & racism in society. No one wins but him.how can there be a miss trial on the day of the verdict and you find that the radical Muslims not the ones that are awesome to know and be friends with but the radical ones are causing hatred and racism in society but it’s a no no when anyone and I mean anyone says something that’s the injustice to the victims " The jury are not sequestered!! I’m not defending radical Muslims. You, however are defending a radical fascist. Radicals of any faction are purveyors of hatred. People like Robinson & the Britain First idiots make young, ordinary British Muslims feel isolated & targeted. They create mistrust within schools, communities & this then turns ordinary kids into radicals - not just Muslim kids, but white kids too. Robinson is one of the best recruitment tools Islamic State have at their disposal. They tell scared young kids who are bullied by supporters of the EDL ‘this is what they think of you’ & between both sides they create a new generation of radical Muslims, fascists, neo-nazi’s, nationalists, socialists etc ...as everyone starts to feel like they have to fight each other to survive. What they are really scared of is a bogeyman. People like Robinson & Golding who start a rumour, create some friction, light the touchpaper & then run off to leave a war behind them. | |||
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"But this topic wont last long on here as free speak is nolong allowed in the UK. and by "free speech" you mean that he admitted committing contempt of court by publishing information that could prejudice an ongoing trial. cool!!!!!!!
you do wonder if some of the people screaming faux outrage actually really have any clue at all..... think your find that he was arrested for breach of the peace and he was reading from the Huddersfield examiner that had all the info and the ongoing trial was having its verdict read out the day. Fact
He was arrested for incitement & breach of the peace. He’s under a suspended sentence for doing this previously so he knew he’d be jailed for it.
Fact. has anyone actually seen the live Facebook video because there’s no incitement and there’s no breach of the peace, he was arrested, changed and sentenced in 2 hrs I don’t care who you are or what you’ve done, 2 hrs is not justice and am sorry if you all think he was in the wrong about reporting on facts about people abusing kids on the day of the verdict.. what’s this world coming to
He was under a suspended sentence for the same thing - which he pleaded guilty to. As soon as you breach your suspension, you are recalled to prison to serve his original sentence, so yes - this IS justice.
He wasn’t ‘reporting facts’ as he is not a member of the affiliated press. If he wants to talk publically about it after the trial, great. Fill your boots. But before the trial is a breach of reporting restrictions & prejudicial - which could give the defence a technical mistrial. Which is the reason for the reporting restrictions in the first place.
He’s also got a gofundme page set up to raise mo ey for his defence. What defence? The defence for the crime you’re in prison for, which you plead guilty to? Been & gone, so why is he fraudulently raising money for it?! "2 Things here, how do you know he pleaded guilty when there’s a press black out and he was reading out from a national newspaper that had reported the facts it’s no different toy if you stood out side and read out to your phone the report.. I don’t support tommy it’s the injustice of what has happened to a man and then the government suppressing the press .. freedom of speech folks is being taken away from us all and when it go’s down the shitter you all wonder why | |||
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"Explain how he can influance a jury from out side a court? Jurers don't live inside the court for the duration of a trial you know! They have to leave the courtroom to go home. And shockingly, they’re also allowed to see the Internet, read papers & access social media ... therefore his actions can potentially prejudice the jury, leading to a mistrial & a guilty party going free. The defence team can claim the jury are not impartial and amistrial sees their clients walk free. That’s what he wants. No justice for the victims but Tommy & his band of fascist thugs get to protest again, claiming British justice is being soft on Muslims, causing further hatred & racism in society. No one wins but him.how can there be a miss trial on the day of the verdict and you find that the radical Muslims not the ones that are awesome to know and be friends with but the radical ones are causing hatred and racism in society but it’s a no no when anyone and I mean anyone says something that’s the injustice to the victims The jury are not sequestered!! I’m not defending radical Muslims. You, however are defending a radical fascist. Radicals of any faction are purveyors of hatred. People like Robinson & the Britain First idiots make young, ordinary British Muslims feel isolated & targeted. They create mistrust within schools, communities & this then turns ordinary kids into radicals - not just Muslim kids, but white kids too. Robinson is one of the best recruitment tools Islamic State have at their disposal. They tell scared young kids who are bullied by supporters of the EDL ‘this is what they think of you’ & between both sides they create a new generation of radical Muslims, fascists, neo-nazi’s, nationalists, socialists etc ...as everyone starts to feel like they have to fight each other to survive. What they are really scared of is a bogeyman. People like Robinson & Golding who start a rumour, create some friction, light the touchpaper & then run off to leave a war behind them." so your ok with radical Muslims and pedo gangs then | |||
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"Explain how he can influance a jury from out side a court? Jurers don't live inside the court for the duration of a trial you know! They have to leave the courtroom to go home. And shockingly, they’re also allowed to see the Internet, read papers & access social media ... therefore his actions can potentially prejudice the jury, leading to a mistrial & a guilty party going free. The defence team can claim the jury are not impartial and amistrial sees their clients walk free. That’s what he wants. No justice for the victims but Tommy & his band of fascist thugs get to protest again, claiming British justice is being soft on Muslims, causing further hatred & racism in society. No one wins but him.how can there be a miss trial on the day of the verdict and you find that the radical Muslims not the ones that are awesome to know and be friends with but the radical ones are causing hatred and racism in society but it’s a no no when anyone and I mean anyone says something that’s the injustice to the victims The jury are not sequestered!! I’m not defending radical Muslims. You, however are defending a radical fascist. Radicals of any faction are purveyors of hatred. People like Robinson & the Britain First idiots make young, ordinary British Muslims feel isolated & targeted. They create mistrust within schools, communities & this then turns ordinary kids into radicals - not just Muslim kids, but white kids too. Robinson is one of the best recruitment tools Islamic State have at their disposal. They tell scared young kids who are bullied by supporters of the EDL ‘this is what they think of you’ & between both sides they create a new generation of radical Muslims, fascists, neo-nazi’s, nationalists, socialists etc ...as everyone starts to feel like they have to fight each other to survive. What they are really scared of is a bogeyman. People like Robinson & Golding who start a rumour, create some friction, light the touchpaper & then run off to leave a war behind them." Mmm quote from Baroness Warsi. Some British Muslims do not accept or embrace the country in which they live, instead adhering to violent perversions of Islam. That, in turn, helps open a gulf of understanding between British Muslims and their fellow citizens. Rightly or not, some people feel their Muslim neighbours are not fully part of British society. | |||
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"Explain how he can influance a jury from out side a court? Jurers don't live inside the court for the duration of a trial you know! They have to leave the courtroom to go home. And shockingly, they’re also allowed to see the Internet, read papers & access social media ... therefore his actions can potentially prejudice the jury, leading to a mistrial & a guilty party going free. The defence team can claim the jury are not impartial and amistrial sees their clients walk free. That’s what he wants. No justice for the victims but Tommy & his band of fascist thugs get to protest again, claiming British justice is being soft on Muslims, causing further hatred & racism in society. No one wins but him.how can there be a miss trial on the day of the verdict and you find that the radical Muslims not the ones that are awesome to know and be friends with but the radical ones are causing hatred and racism in society but it’s a no no when anyone and I mean anyone says something that’s the injustice to the victims The jury are not sequestered!! I’m not defending radical Muslims. You, however are defending a radical fascist. Radicals of any faction are purveyors of hatred. People like Robinson & the Britain First idiots make young, ordinary British Muslims feel isolated & targeted. They create mistrust within schools, communities & this then turns ordinary kids into radicals - not just Muslim kids, but white kids too. Robinson is one of the best recruitment tools Islamic State have at their disposal. They tell scared young kids who are bullied by supporters of the EDL ‘this is what they think of you’ & between both sides they create a new generation of radical Muslims, fascists, neo-nazi’s, nationalists, socialists etc ...as everyone starts to feel like they have to fight each other to survive. What they are really scared of is a bogeyman. People like Robinson & Golding who start a rumour, create some friction, light the touchpaper & then run off to leave a war behind them. so your ok with radical Muslims and pedo gangs then " Yes, that’s actually what I said, isn’t it?! “Radicals of any faction are purveyors of hatred.” Totally sounds like I’m supporting Muslim radicals.
And it’s ‘paedo’ not ‘pedo’ - unless you’re American?
All radicals are the problem. But this thread is not about Abu Hamza, it’s about Tommy Robinson.
I believe the point when EDL & BF supporters resort to the ‘so you’re supporting paedos’ argument is when they have run out of credible arguments but won’t concede the point.
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"Explain how he can influance a jury from out side a court? Jurers don't live inside the court for the duration of a trial you know! They have to leave the courtroom to go home. And shockingly, they’re also allowed to see the Internet, read papers & access social media ... therefore his actions can potentially prejudice the jury, leading to a mistrial & a guilty party going free. The defence team can claim the jury are not impartial and amistrial sees their clients walk free. That’s what he wants. No justice for the victims but Tommy & his band of fascist thugs get to protest again, claiming British justice is being soft on Muslims, causing further hatred & racism in society. No one wins but him.how can there be a miss trial on the day of the verdict and you find that the radical Muslims not the ones that are awesome to know and be friends with but the radical ones are causing hatred and racism in society but it’s a no no when anyone and I mean anyone says something that’s the injustice to the victims The jury are not sequestered!! I’m not defending radical Muslims. You, however are defending a radical fascist. Radicals of any faction are purveyors of hatred. People like Robinson & the Britain First idiots make young, ordinary British Muslims feel isolated & targeted. They create mistrust within schools, communities & this then turns ordinary kids into radicals - not just Muslim kids, but white kids too. Robinson is one of the best recruitment tools Islamic State have at their disposal. They tell scared young kids who are bullied by supporters of the EDL ‘this is what they think of you’ & between both sides they create a new generation of radical Muslims, fascists, neo-nazi’s, nationalists, socialists etc ...as everyone starts to feel like they have to fight each other to survive. What they are really scared of is a bogeyman. People like Robinson & Golding who start a rumour, create some friction, light the touchpaper & then run off to leave a war behind them. Mmm quote from Baroness Warsi. Some British Muslims do not accept or embrace the country in which they live, instead adhering to violent perversions of Islam. That, in turn, helps open a gulf of understanding between British Muslims and their fellow citizens. Rightly or not, some people feel their Muslim neighbours are not fully part of British society." Some British people aren’t even fully part of British society.... respectful of the laws for example | |||
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"Explain how he can influance a jury from out side a court? Jurers don't live inside the court for the duration of a trial you know! They have to leave the courtroom to go home. And shockingly, they’re also allowed to see the Internet, read papers & access social media ... therefore his actions can potentially prejudice the jury, leading to a mistrial & a guilty party going free. The defence team can claim the jury are not impartial and amistrial sees their clients walk free. That’s what he wants. No justice for the victims but Tommy & his band of fascist thugs get to protest again, claiming British justice is being soft on Muslims, causing further hatred & racism in society. No one wins but him.how can there be a miss trial on the day of the verdict and you find that the radical Muslims not the ones that are awesome to know and be friends with but the radical ones are causing hatred and racism in society but it’s a no no when anyone and I mean anyone says something that’s the injustice to the victims The jury are not sequestered!! I’m not defending radical Muslims. You, however are defending a radical fascist. Radicals of any faction are purveyors of hatred. People like Robinson & the Britain First idiots make young, ordinary British Muslims feel isolated & targeted. They create mistrust within schools, communities & this then turns ordinary kids into radicals - not just Muslim kids, but white kids too. Robinson is one of the best recruitment tools Islamic State have at their disposal. They tell scared young kids who are bullied by supporters of the EDL ‘this is what they think of you’ & between both sides they create a new generation of radical Muslims, fascists, neo-nazi’s, nationalists, socialists etc ...as everyone starts to feel like they have to fight each other to survive. What they are really scared of is a bogeyman. People like Robinson & Golding who start a rumour, create some friction, light the touchpaper & then run off to leave a war behind them. Mmm quote from Baroness Warsi. Some British Muslims do not accept or embrace the country in which they live, instead adhering to violent perversions of Islam. That, in turn, helps open a gulf of understanding between British Muslims and their fellow citizens. Rightly or not, some people feel their Muslim neighbours are not fully part of British society." well said | |||
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"I feel that violent white 'british' non muslims are not part of society either! " Correct. Radicals of any faction are nothing more than purveyors of hate ... and have no place in any decent society | |||
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"Explain how he can influance a jury from out side a court? Jurers don't live inside the court for the duration of a trial you know! They have to leave the courtroom to go home. And shockingly, they’re also allowed to see the Internet, read papers & access social media ... therefore his actions can potentially prejudice the jury, leading to a mistrial & a guilty party going free. The defence team can claim the jury are not impartial and amistrial sees their clients walk free. That’s what he wants. No justice for the victims but Tommy & his band of fascist thugs get to protest again, claiming British justice is being soft on Muslims, causing further hatred & racism in society. No one wins but him.how can there be a miss trial on the day of the verdict and you find that the radical Muslims not the ones that are awesome to know and be friends with but the radical ones are causing hatred and racism in society but it’s a no no when anyone and I mean anyone says something that’s the injustice to the victims The jury are not sequestered!! I’m not defending radical Muslims. You, however are defending a radical fascist. Radicals of any faction are purveyors of hatred. People like Robinson & the Britain First idiots make young, ordinary British Muslims feel isolated & targeted. They create mistrust within schools, communities & this then turns ordinary kids into radicals - not just Muslim kids, but white kids too. Robinson is one of the best recruitment tools Islamic State have at their disposal. They tell scared young kids who are bullied by supporters of the EDL ‘this is what they think of you’ & between both sides they create a new generation of radical Muslims, fascists, neo-nazi’s, nationalists, socialists etc ...as everyone starts to feel like they have to fight each other to survive. What they are really scared of is a bogeyman. People like Robinson & Golding who start a rumour, create some friction, light the touchpaper & then run off to leave a war behind them. Mmm quote from Baroness Warsi. Some British Muslims do not accept or embrace the country in which they live, instead adhering to violent perversions of Islam. That, in turn, helps open a gulf of understanding between British Muslims and their fellow citizens. Rightly or not, some people feel their Muslim neighbours are not fully part of British society. Some British people aren’t even fully part of British society.... respectful of the laws for example "that’s right it don’t matter if you black or white if your guilty time to pay the price and yes tommy took the chance and the police knew he would plus the pedo gangs probably had mps on there books any way | |||
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"I feel that violent white 'british' non muslims are not part of society either! Correct. Radicals of any faction are nothing more than purveyors of hate ... and have no place in any decent society" | |||
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"Explain how he can influance a jury from out side a court? Jurers don't live inside the court for the duration of a trial you know! They have to leave the courtroom to go home. And shockingly, they’re also allowed to see the Internet, read papers & access social media ... therefore his actions can potentially prejudice the jury, leading to a mistrial & a guilty party going free. The defence team can claim the jury are not impartial and amistrial sees their clients walk free. That’s what he wants. No justice for the victims but Tommy & his band of fascist thugs get to protest again, claiming British justice is being soft on Muslims, causing further hatred & racism in society. No one wins but him.how can there be a miss trial on the day of the verdict and you find that the radical Muslims not the ones that are awesome to know and be friends with but the radical ones are causing hatred and racism in society but it’s a no no when anyone and I mean anyone says something that’s the injustice to the victims The jury are not sequestered!! I’m not defending radical Muslims. You, however are defending a radical fascist. Radicals of any faction are purveyors of hatred. People like Robinson & the Britain First idiots make young, ordinary British Muslims feel isolated & targeted. They create mistrust within schools, communities & this then turns ordinary kids into radicals - not just Muslim kids, but white kids too. Robinson is one of the best recruitment tools Islamic State have at their disposal. They tell scared young kids who are bullied by supporters of the EDL ‘this is what they think of you’ & between both sides they create a new generation of radical Muslims, fascists, neo-nazi’s, nationalists, socialists etc ...as everyone starts to feel like they have to fight each other to survive. What they are really scared of is a bogeyman. People like Robinson & Golding who start a rumour, create some friction, light the touchpaper & then run off to leave a war behind them. Mmm quote from Baroness Warsi. Some British Muslims do not accept or embrace the country in which they live, instead adhering to violent perversions of Islam. That, in turn, helps open a gulf of understanding between British Muslims and their fellow citizens. Rightly or not, some people feel their Muslim neighbours are not fully part of British society. Some British people aren’t even fully part of British society.... respectful of the laws for example that’s right it don’t matter if you black or white if your guilty time to pay the price and yes tommy took the chance and the police knew he would plus the pedo gangs probably had mps on there books any way "When you say Tommy took the chance, what you mean is he broke the law. He also jeopardised the justice that these children deserve. I’m glad he was arrested | |||
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"I feel that violent white 'british' non muslims are not part of society either! Correct. Radicals of any faction are nothing more than purveyors of hate ... and have no place in any decent society" Its doesn't and democracy and freedom of speach are the right and liberty of every human being,or at less it was. | |||
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"A racist thug ? Disrupting a trial ?? Are u for real ? Islam is not a fucking race ! And he was making the names of disgusting peadophiles known because your goverment, with the backing of idiots like this are hiding them from you. Wake the fuck up silly silly people . Its simple if you are not 100% against peados then you are with them. Theres no inbetween" you can’t disagree with that ? | |||
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"A racist thug ? Disrupting a trial ?? Are u for real ? Islam is not a fucking race ! And he was making the names of disgusting peadophiles known because your goverment, with the backing of idiots like this are hiding them from you. Wake the fuck up silly silly people . Its simple if you are not 100% against peados then you are with them. Theres no inbetween" Where was he when white paedophile rings were being tried? What has he done to support 'our women' the victims of these crimes? Don't fool yourself he is doing any of this for anyone but himself. | |||
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"A racist thug ? Disrupting a trial ?? Are u for real ? Islam is not a fucking race ! And he was making the names of disgusting peadophiles known because your goverment, with the backing of idiots like this are hiding them from you. Wake the fuck up silly silly people . Its simple if you are not 100% against peados then you are with them. Theres no inbetween" Well said. I know many people that work for local authority social services. Really you would not believe the scale of grooming gangs in the UK. Every county in the UK has cases, which the authorities and media cover up. Been going on for years. | |||
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"A racist thug ? Disrupting a trial ?? Are u for real ? Islam is not a fucking race ! And he was making the names of disgusting peadophiles known because your goverment, with the backing of idiots like this are hiding them from you. Wake the fuck up silly silly people . Its simple if you are not 100% against peados then you are with them. Theres no inbetween" To clarify, as a number of people seem to find this difficult to get their head around, I’m 100% against child abuse AND 100% against racism and hatred. This isn’t an either or | |||
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"I feel that violent white 'british' non muslims are not part of society either! Correct. Radicals of any faction are nothing more than purveyors of hate ... and have no place in any decent society Its doesn't and democracy and freedom of speach are the right and liberty of every human being,or at less it was." The freedom of speech and expression come with responsibilities to uphold the law, not incite hatred, fear or fascism and consequences for doing so. | |||
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"A racist thug ? Disrupting a trial ?? Are u for real ? Islam is not a fucking race ! And he was making the names of disgusting peadophiles known because your goverment, with the backing of idiots like this are hiding them from you. Wake the fuck up silly silly people . Its simple if you are not 100% against peados then you are with them. Theres no inbetween To clarify, as a number of people seem to find this difficult to get their head around, I’m 100% against child abuse AND 100% against racism and hatred. This isn’t an either or "dito but ill probably get some shit my way .. all well | |||
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"I feel that violent white 'british' non muslims are not part of society either! Correct. Radicals of any faction are nothing more than purveyors of hate ... and have no place in any decent society Its doesn't and democracy and freedom of speach are the right and liberty of every human being,or at less it was. The freedom of speech and expression come with responsibilities to uphold the law, not incite hatred, fear or fascism and consequences for doing so." So do you think Naz Shah should be strip of her office as MP for Bradford for say groomed white children should shut theirs mouths ? | |||
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"I feel that violent white 'british' non muslims are not part of society either! Correct. Radicals of any faction are nothing more than purveyors of hate ... and have no place in any decent society Its doesn't and democracy and freedom of speach are the right and liberty of every human being,or at less it was. The freedom of speech and expression come with responsibilities to uphold the law, not incite hatred, fear or fascism and consequences for doing so. So do you think Naz Shah should be strip of her office as MP for Bradford for say groomed white children should shut theirs mouths ?" If its proven that she said it of course she should! What a silly question. | |||
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"I feel that violent white 'british' non muslims are not part of society either! Correct. Radicals of any faction are nothing more than purveyors of hate ... and have no place in any decent society Its doesn't and democracy and freedom of speach are the right and liberty of every human being,or at less it was. The freedom of speech and expression come with responsibilities to uphold the law, not incite hatred, fear or fascism and consequences for doing so. So do you think Naz Shah should be strip of her office as MP for Bradford for say groomed white children should shut theirs mouths ?" If that’s what she said, yes! Absolutely! | |||
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"https://metro.co.uk/2017/08/23/mp-shares-tweet-saying-abuse-victims-should-shut-their-mouths-for-good-of-diversity-6872181/" Whilst she has tried to explain that it was a 'mistake' to retweet the post from a clearly satirical / fake Owen Jones account, it was visible for eight minutes and in this time it would have caused a significant amount of offence and distress. It was an ill thought retweet and absolutely she should resign. Or be sacked. | |||
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"I feel that violent white 'british' non muslims are not part of society either! Correct. Radicals of any faction are nothing more than purveyors of hate ... and have no place in any decent society Its doesn't and democracy and freedom of speach are the right and liberty of every human being,or at less it was. The freedom of speech and expression come with responsibilities to uphold the law, not incite hatred, fear or fascism and consequences for doing so. So do you think Naz Shah should be strip of her office as MP for Bradford for say groomed white children should shut theirs mouths ? If that’s what she said, yes! Absolutely!" Mmm but she still MP of Bradford never made accountable for her remarks. But she is a Pakistani Muslim MP so may be thats why she still in office eh. I thought a rascist remark were against the Law in UK obviously not. | |||
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"https://metro.co.uk/2017/08/23/mp-shares-tweet-saying-abuse-victims-should-shut-their-mouths-for-good-of-diversity-6872181/ Whilst she has tried to explain that it was a 'mistake' to retweet the post from a clearly satirical / fake Owen Jones account, it was visible for eight minutes and in this time it would have caused a significant amount of offence and distress. It was an ill thought retweet and absolutely she should resign. Or be sacked." And what about her rasict remarks to Jews. | |||
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"I feel that violent white 'british' non muslims are not part of society either! Correct. Radicals of any faction are nothing more than purveyors of hate ... and have no place in any decent society Its doesn't and democracy and freedom of speach are the right and liberty of every human being,or at less it was. The freedom of speech and expression come with responsibilities to uphold the law, not incite hatred, fear or fascism and consequences for doing so. So do you think Naz Shah should be strip of her office as MP for Bradford for say groomed white children should shut theirs mouths ? If its proven that she said it of course she should! What a silly question." Silly question thats the whole point one law of one and one law for another. | |||
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"A racist thug ? Disrupting a trial ?? Are u for real ? Islam is not a fucking race ! And he was making the names of disgusting peadophiles known because your goverment, with the backing of idiots like this are hiding them from you. Wake the fuck up silly silly people . Its simple if you are not 100% against peados then you are with them. Theres no inbetween" Is that all paedophiles or just the non white ones? | |||
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"I feel that violent white 'british' non muslims are not part of society either! Correct. Radicals of any faction are nothing more than purveyors of hate ... and have no place in any decent society Its doesn't and democracy and freedom of speach are the right and liberty of every human being,or at less it was. The freedom of speech and expression come with responsibilities to uphold the law, not incite hatred, fear or fascism and consequences for doing so. So do you think Naz Shah should be strip of her office as MP for Bradford for say groomed white children should shut theirs mouths ? If its proven that she said it of course she should! What a silly question. Silly question thats the whole point one law of one and one law for another. " Naz Shah deserves to be fired. Get behind that. However she is not stiring up the entire country with her fascist propaganda. Really not the same. And really not one rule for one... she wasn't in breach of a previously suspended sentence. Go take you moral outrage and campaign to have her out, don't be fooled that Robinson is doing all this for your freedom of speech. | |||
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"I feel that violent white 'british' non muslims are not part of society either! Correct. Radicals of any faction are nothing more than purveyors of hate ... and have no place in any decent society Its doesn't and democracy and freedom of speach are the right and liberty of every human being,or at less it was. The freedom of speech and expression come with responsibilities to uphold the law, not incite hatred, fear or fascism and consequences for doing so. So do you think Naz Shah should be strip of her office as MP for Bradford for say groomed white children should shut theirs mouths ? If its proven that she said it of course she should! What a silly question. Silly question thats the whole point one law of one and one law for another. Naz Shah deserves to be fired. Get behind that. However she is not stiring up the entire country with her fascist propaganda. Really not the same. And really not one rule for one... she wasn't in breach of a previously suspended sentence. Go take you moral outrage and campaign to have her out, don't be fooled that Robinson is doing all this for your freedom of speech." I have no moral outrage and believe me I've tried to get her out of office. You just sit on your fence and believe the worlds a wonderful place | |||
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"A racist thug ? Disrupting a trial ?? Are u for real ? Islam is not a fucking race ! And he was making the names of disgusting peadophiles known because your goverment, with the backing of idiots like this are hiding them from you. Wake the fuck up silly silly people . Its simple if you are not 100% against peados then you are with them. Theres no inbetween" Utter utter bollocks | |||
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"But this topic wont last long on here as free speak is nolong allowed in the UK. and by "free speech" you mean that he admitted committing contempt of court by publishing information that could prejudice an ongoing trial. cool!!!!!!!
you do wonder if some of the people screaming faux outrage actually really have any clue at all..... think your find that he was arrested for breach of the peace and he was reading from the Huddersfield examiner that had all the info and the ongoing trial was having its verdict read out the day. Fact
He was arrested for incitement & breach of the peace. He’s under a suspended sentence for doing this previously so he knew he’d be jailed for it.
Fact. has anyone actually seen the live Facebook video because there’s no incitement and there’s no breach of the peace, he was arrested, changed and sentenced in 2 hrs I don’t care who you are or what you’ve done, 2 hrs is not justice and am sorry if you all think he was in the wrong about reporting on facts about people abusing kids on the day of the verdict.. what’s this world coming to "He pleaded guilty! | |||
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"Only allowed links please Sorry x " i knew that is the case, but i think there "could" have been a little flexability because it is a brilliant explanation in simple terms of the whole situation (and actually debunks a lot of what his supporters here have been saying) | |||
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"Only allowed links please Sorry x i knew that is the case, but i think there "could" have been a little flexability because it is a brilliant explanation in simple terms of the whole situation (and actually debunks a lot of what his supporters here have been saying)" The the next person who thinks their links should have been allowed flexibility will want the same, which will end up lots of links on the forum that are not allowed ...I am not sure this will work. | |||
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"Robinson is one of the best recruitment tools Islamic State have at their disposal. They tell scared young kids who are bullied by supporters of the EDL ‘this is what they think of you’ & between both sides they create a new generation of radical Muslims, fascists, neo-nazi’s, nationalists, socialists etc ...as everyone starts to feel like they have to fight each other to survive. What they are really scared of is a bogeyman. People like Robinson & Golding who start a rumour, create some friction, light the touchpaper & then run off to leave a war behind them." I think this is one of the most salient posts in this thread. I took the time, years ago, to watch his Oxford Union address, and I have to confess I was taken aback by the manner in which he presented his argument - it was considered, nuanced and dare I say it - largely valid. I found myself surprised to be agreeing with him, as he made points about Wahhabism. So much so, I followed him on Twitter, where he reverted to type, race-baiting and inciting hatred. I tried to make this very point to him on a number of occasions - that it was ironic that he took essentially the same stance as the people he purported to be opposing; that the extreme interpretation of the Qur'an was the only 'true' Islam, that there could never be peaceful coexistence, and that the only option was war. He was acting as the greatest poster boy for ISIS at al that they could possibly hope for... Strangely, he never replied... | |||
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