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Mobility scooters are a menace. And go!. "Let’s not be mean now.. they use pavements where they can but bleeding cyclists!!  | |||
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"I agree, I'm terrified of knocking someone off their bike. I wish they could use the pavements so they are safer "Clearly many of them agree with you as they already do. | |||
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"I agree, I'm terrified of knocking someone off their bike. I wish they could use the pavements so they are safer
Clearly many of them agree with you as they already do."Lol did you go to school with David Cameron? Cyclists don’t use pavements, I spent 45 minutes behind a bunch of cyclists on a country road yesterday.. they built up traffic and didn’t have the courtesy to stop and let’s cars go to ease traffic.. | |||
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"Ooo, controversial.
I’m well known for saying controversial stuff
Mobility scooters are a menace. And go!.
Let’s not be mean now.. they use pavements where they can but bleeding cyclists!! "Use pavements where they shouldn't. | |||
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"I agree, I'm terrified of knocking someone off their bike. I wish they could use the pavements so they are safer
Clearly many of them agree with you as they already do.
Lol did you go to school with David Cameron? Cyclists don’t use pavements, I spent 45 minutes behind a bunch of cyclists on a country road yesterday.. they built up traffic and didn’t have the courtesy to stop and let’s cars go to ease traffic.. "Did they have nice before bums?? Sounds like you didn’t WANT to pass them | |||
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"I agree, I'm terrified of knocking someone off their bike. I wish they could use the pavements so they are safer
Clearly many of them agree with you as they already do.
Lol did you go to school with David Cameron? Cyclists don’t use pavements, I spent 45 minutes behind a bunch of cyclists on a country road yesterday.. they built up traffic and didn’t have the courtesy to stop and let’s cars go to ease traffic..
Did they have nice before bums??
Sounds like you didn’t WANT to pass them "Really? And why would I want that? | |||
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"I agree, I'm terrified of knocking someone off their bike. I wish they could use the pavements so they are safer
Clearly many of them agree with you as they already do.
Lol did you go to school with David Cameron? Cyclists don’t use pavements, I spent 45 minutes behind a bunch of cyclists on a country road yesterday.. they built up traffic and didn’t have the courtesy to stop and let’s cars go to ease traffic..
Did they have nice before bums??
Sounds like you didn’t WANT to pass them
Really? And why would I want that? "Females nicely shaped bums bobbing up and down? | |||
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"I agree, I'm terrified of knocking someone off their bike. I wish they could use the pavements so they are safer "Maybe you should drive better then. Give at least 6ft clearance between you and the cyclist. Cyclists aren't saftwr on the pavement due to meandering pedestrians and dogs etc | |||
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"I feel sorry for them ... Our roads are a maze of pot holes .... then there's the lorries , and other Inconsiderate road users " Cycles are slow moving vehicles, car and lorries aren’t hence different roads. Cycles don’t have side mirrors, insurance and most importantly a positive attitude towards other road users.. | |||
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"I agree, I'm terrified of knocking someone off their bike. I wish they could use the pavements so they are safer
Clearly many of them agree with you as they already do.
Lol did you go to school with David Cameron? Cyclists don’t use pavements, I spent 45 minutes behind a bunch of cyclists on a country road yesterday.. they built up traffic and didn’t have the courtesy to stop and let’s cars go to ease traffic.. "45 minutes? Really?! I doubt that | |||
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"I agree, I'm terrified of knocking someone off their bike. I wish they could use the pavements so they are safer
Clearly many of them agree with you as they already do.
Lol did you go to school with David Cameron? Cyclists don’t use pavements, I spent 45 minutes behind a bunch of cyclists on a country road yesterday.. they built up traffic and didn’t have the courtesy to stop and let’s cars go to ease traffic..
Did they have nice before bums??
Sounds like you didn’t WANT to pass them
Really? And why would I want that?
Females nicely shaped bums bobbing up and down?"Fit ones don’t need to cycle | |||
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"I agree, I'm terrified of knocking someone off their bike. I wish they could use the pavements so they are safer
Maybe you should drive better then. Give at least 6ft clearance between you and the cyclist.
Cyclists aren't saftwr on the pavement due to meandering pedestrians and dogs etc"6ft clearance on British roads? Where do you live love? On the M6?  | |||
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"I feel sorry for them ... Our roads are a maze of pot holes .... then there's the lorries , and other Inconsiderate road users Cycles are slow moving vehicles, car and lorries aren’t hence different roads. Cycles don’t have side mirrors, insurance and most importantly a positive attitude towards other road users.. " Most cyclists are also car drivers so do have good attitudes to other road users. Car drivers think they own the road and have poor attitudes to anything not powered by an engine (pedestrians, horse riders etc). Most also have insurance through their house insurance. They are legal users of the road. | |||
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"I feel sorry for them ... Our roads are a maze of pot holes .... then there's the lorries , and other Inconsiderate road users Cycles are slow moving vehicles, car and lorries aren’t hence different roads. Cycles don’t have side mirrors, insurance and most importantly a positive attitude towards other road users.. Most cyclists are also car drivers so do have good attitudes to other road users. Car drivers think they own the road and have poor attitudes to anything not powered by an engine (pedestrians, horse riders etc). Most also have insurance through their house insurance. They are legal users of the road. " Some car drivers Evie. I certainly don't think I own the road and give plenty of room and time for cyclists, horses, pedestrians and even Lollipop Ladies/Men. | |||
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"I agree, I'm terrified of knocking someone off their bike. I wish they could use the pavements so they are safer
Maybe you should drive better then. Give at least 6ft clearance between you and the cyclist.
Cyclists aren't saftwr on the pavement due to meandering pedestrians and dogs etc
6ft clearance on British roads? Where do you live love? On the M6? "The highway code states at least as much room as you would give a car or one car width. | |||
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"I feel sorry for them ... Our roads are a maze of pot holes .... then there's the lorries , and other Inconsiderate road users Cycles are slow moving vehicles, car and lorries aren’t hence different roads. Cycles don’t have side mirrors, insurance and most importantly a positive attitude towards other road users.. Most cyclists are also car drivers so do have good attitudes to other road users. Car drivers think they own the road and have poor attitudes to anything not powered by an engine (pedestrians, horse riders etc). Most also have insurance through their house insurance. They are legal users of the road. " The twat who knocked off my side mirror didn’t have insurance.. had to pay £160 myself as he didn’t even stop while filtering between cars Cycles don’t have insurance | |||
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"Only the incompetent cyclists should be banned. " I agree but cycles can’t maintain the road speed hence are a danger to themselves and others on the roads.. | |||
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"I feel sorry for them ... Our roads are a maze of pot holes .... then there's the lorries , and other Inconsiderate road users Cycles are slow moving vehicles, car and lorries aren’t hence different roads. Cycles don’t have side mirrors, insurance and most importantly a positive attitude towards other road users.. Most cyclists are also car drivers so do have good attitudes to other road users. Car drivers think they own the road and have poor attitudes to anything not powered by an engine (pedestrians, horse riders etc). Most also have insurance through their house insurance. They are legal users of the road. Some car drivers Evie. I certainly don't think I own the road and give plenty of room and time for cyclists, horses, pedestrians and even Lollipop Ladies/Men. " Is some less than most? OK.... Some car drivers. To be honest most of the cars passing me and the other cyclists taking part in a local sportive around the cost wolds yesterday were very considerate when overtaking and even on twisty roads they weren't held up for 45 mins! | |||
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"I feel sorry for them ... Our roads are a maze of pot holes .... then there's the lorries , and other Inconsiderate road users Cycles are slow moving vehicles, car and lorries aren’t hence different roads. Cycles don’t have side mirrors, insurance and most importantly a positive attitude towards other road users.. Most cyclists are also car drivers so do have good attitudes to other road users. Car drivers think they own the road and have poor attitudes to anything not powered by an engine (pedestrians, horse riders etc). Most also have insurance through their house insurance. They are legal users of the road. The twat who knocked off my side mirror didn’t have insurance.. had to pay £160 myself as he didn’t even stop while filtering between cars Cycles don’t have insurance "Some cyclists don't I agree. You could claim back through small claims court though. | |||
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"I agree, I'm terrified of knocking someone off their bike. I wish they could use the pavements so they are safer
Maybe you should drive better then. Give at least 6ft clearance between you and the cyclist.
Cyclists aren't saftwr on the pavement due to meandering pedestrians and dogs etc
6ft clearance on British roads? Where do you live love? On the M6?
The highway code states at least as much room as you would give a car or one car width. "Not if it’s a single lane lol you have to go in the opposite lane to avoid the slow angry cyclist | |||
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"I agree, I'm terrified of knocking someone off their bike. I wish they could use the pavements so they are safer
Clearly many of them agree with you as they already do.
Lol did you go to school with David Cameron? Cyclists don’t use pavements, I spent 45 minutes behind a bunch of cyclists on a country road yesterday.. they built up traffic and didn’t have the courtesy to stop and let’s cars go to ease traffic.. "Bloody hell . What was you driving a mobility scooter ? | |||
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"I feel sorry for them ... Our roads are a maze of pot holes .... then there's the lorries , and other Inconsiderate road users Cycles are slow moving vehicles, car and lorries aren’t hence different roads. Cycles don’t have side mirrors, insurance and most importantly a positive attitude towards other road users.. Most cyclists are also car drivers so do have good attitudes to other road users. Car drivers think they own the road and have poor attitudes to anything not powered by an engine (pedestrians, horse riders etc). Most also have insurance through their house insurance. They are legal users of the road. The twat who knocked off my side mirror didn’t have insurance.. had to pay £160 myself as he didn’t even stop while filtering between cars Cycles don’t have insurance
Some cyclists don't I agree. You could claim back through small claims court though. "Now you are contradicting with your previous statement  | |||
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"I feel sorry for them ... Our roads are a maze of pot holes .... then there's the lorries , and other Inconsiderate road users Cycles are slow moving vehicles, car and lorries aren’t hence different roads. Cycles don’t have side mirrors, insurance and most importantly a positive attitude towards other road users.. Most cyclists are also car drivers so do have good attitudes to other road users. Car drivers think they own the road and have poor attitudes to anything not powered by an engine (pedestrians, horse riders etc). Most also have insurance through their house insurance. They are legal users of the road. The twat who knocked off my side mirror didn’t have insurance.. had to pay £160 myself as he didn’t even stop while filtering between cars Cycles don’t have insurance
Some cyclists don't I agree. You could claim back through small claims court though.
Now you are contradicting with your previous statement "No I'm not. Where did I say all have insurance? | |||
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"I agree, I'm terrified of knocking someone off their bike. I wish they could use the pavements so they are safer
Clearly many of them agree with you as they already do.
Lol did you go to school with David Cameron? Cyclists don’t use pavements, I spent 45 minutes behind a bunch of cyclists on a country road yesterday.. they built up traffic and didn’t have the courtesy to stop and let’s cars go to ease traffic.. Bloody hell . What was you driving a mobility scooter ? "No, there were 25 of them in front on a country road jfjfindheyehiggjrsryjgjkyvjgksjjrdjgkfsaweyhvvitfjv | |||
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"I agree, I'm terrified of knocking someone off their bike. I wish they could use the pavements so they are safer
Clearly many of them agree with you as they already do.
Lol did you go to school with David Cameron? Cyclists don’t use pavements, I spent 45 minutes behind a bunch of cyclists on a country road yesterday.. they built up traffic and didn’t have the courtesy to stop and let’s cars go to ease traffic.. Bloody hell . What was you driving a mobility scooter ?
No, there were 25 of them in front on a country road jfjfindheyehiggjrsryjgjkyvjgksjjrdjgkfsaweyhvvitfjv"side by side | |||
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"I agree, I'm terrified of knocking someone off their bike. I wish they could use the pavements so they are safer
Maybe you should drive better then. Give at least 6ft clearance between you and the cyclist.
Cyclists aren't saftwr on the pavement due to meandering pedestrians and dogs etc
6ft clearance on British roads? Where do you live love? On the M6?
The highway code states at least as much room as you would give a car or one car width.
Not if it’s a single lane lol you have to go in the opposite lane to avoid the slow angry cyclist "I have to say on all your posts I don't think it's the cyclist who is angry.... Project much?!  | |||
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"I feel sorry for them ... Our roads are a maze of pot holes .... then there's the lorries , and other Inconsiderate road users Cycles are slow moving vehicles, car and lorries aren’t hence different roads. Cycles don’t have side mirrors, insurance and most importantly a positive attitude towards other road users.. Most cyclists are also car drivers so do have good attitudes to other road users. Car drivers think they own the road and have poor attitudes to anything not powered by an engine (pedestrians, horse riders etc). Most also have insurance through their house insurance. They are legal users of the road. The twat who knocked off my side mirror didn’t have insurance.. had to pay £160 myself as he didn’t even stop while filtering between cars Cycles don’t have insurance "Lots do these days. Admittedly it's generally avid cyclists who ride for more than the odd day a month. I cycle lots, for leisure, sport and socially. If a person cant drive a car without dealing with the a cyclist and the temporary holdup, is guess they have personality issues that make them unsuitable to drive anyway!! | |||
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"I agree, I'm terrified of knocking someone off their bike. I wish they could use the pavements so they are safer
Clearly many of them agree with you as they already do.
Lol did you go to school with David Cameron? Cyclists don’t use pavements, I spent 45 minutes behind a bunch of cyclists on a country road yesterday.. they built up traffic and didn’t have the courtesy to stop and let’s cars go to ease traffic.. Bloody hell . What was you driving a mobility scooter ?
No, there were 25 of them in front on a country road jfjfindheyehiggjrsryjgjkyvjgksjjrdjgkfsaweyhvvitfjv side by side "Riding side by side reduces the length of the grouo so cars can pass easier. | |||
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"I agree, I'm terrified of knocking someone off their bike. I wish they could use the pavements so they are safer
Maybe you should drive better then. Give at least 6ft clearance between you and the cyclist.
Cyclists aren't saftwr on the pavement due to meandering pedestrians and dogs etc
6ft clearance on British roads? Where do you live love? On the M6?
The highway code states at least as much room as you would give a car or one car width.
Not if it’s a single lane lol you have to go in the opposite lane to avoid the slow angry cyclist
I have to say on all your posts I don't think it's the cyclist who is angry.... Project much?! "Try explaining the Highway Code to a cyclist and see how polite he is | |||
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"I agree, I'm terrified of knocking someone off their bike. I wish they could use the pavements so they are safer
Maybe you should drive better then. Give at least 6ft clearance between you and the cyclist.
Cyclists aren't saftwr on the pavement due to meandering pedestrians and dogs etc
6ft clearance on British roads? Where do you live love? On the M6?
The highway code states at least as much room as you would give a car or one car width.
Not if it’s a single lane lol you have to go in the opposite lane to avoid the slow angry cyclist
I have to say on all your posts I don't think it's the cyclist who is angry.... Project much?!
Try explaining the Highway Code to a cyclist and see how polite he is "I speak to lots of cyclists. I know how polite they are | |||
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"I feel sorry for them ... Our roads are a maze of pot holes .... then there's the lorries , and other Inconsiderate road users Cycles are slow moving vehicles, car and lorries aren’t hence different roads. Cycles don’t have side mirrors, insurance and most importantly a positive attitude towards other road users.. Most cyclists are also car drivers so do have good attitudes to other road users. Car drivers think they own the road and have poor attitudes to anything not powered by an engine (pedestrians, horse riders etc). Most also have insurance through their house insurance. They are legal users of the road. The twat who knocked off my side mirror didn’t have insurance.. had to pay £160 myself as he didn’t even stop while filtering between cars Cycles don’t have insurance
Lots do these days. Admittedly it's generally avid cyclists who ride for more than the odd day a month.
I cycle lots, for leisure, sport and socially. If a person cant drive a car without dealing with the a cyclist and the temporary holdup, is guess they have personality issues that make them unsuitable to drive anyway!!"Ermmm imagine a car doing 30mph on a motorway.. hope this answers your riddle | |||
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"I agree, I'm terrified of knocking someone off their bike. I wish they could use the pavements so they are safer
Maybe you should drive better then. Give at least 6ft clearance between you and the cyclist.
Cyclists aren't saftwr on the pavement due to meandering pedestrians and dogs etc
6ft clearance on British roads? Where do you live love? On the M6?
The highway code states at least as much room as you would give a car or one car width.
Not if it’s a single lane lol you have to go in the opposite lane to avoid the slow angry cyclist
I have to say on all your posts I don't think it's the cyclist who is angry.... Project much?!
Try explaining the Highway Code to a cyclist and see how polite he is
I speak to lots of cyclists. I know how polite they are "Errmmm.. do you guys talk about insurance prices? | |||
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"I feel sorry for them ... Our roads are a maze of pot holes .... then there's the lorries , and other Inconsiderate road users Cycles are slow moving vehicles, car and lorries aren’t hence different roads. Cycles don’t have side mirrors, insurance and most importantly a positive attitude towards other road users.. Most cyclists are also car drivers so do have good attitudes to other road users. Car drivers think they own the road and have poor attitudes to anything not powered by an engine (pedestrians, horse riders etc). Most also have insurance through their house insurance. They are legal users of the road. The twat who knocked off my side mirror didn’t have insurance.. had to pay £160 myself as he didn’t even stop while filtering between cars Cycles don’t have insurance
Lots do these days. Admittedly it's generally avid cyclists who ride for more than the odd day a month.
I cycle lots, for leisure, sport and socially. If a person cant drive a car without dealing with the a cyclist and the temporary holdup, is guess they have personality issues that make them unsuitable to drive anyway!!
Ermmm imagine a car doing 30mph on a motorway.. hope this answers your riddle "Some do. People moan, then pass it? Besudes the road is for everyone...even if not everyone likes that? | |||
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"I feel sorry for them ... Our roads are a maze of pot holes .... then there's the lorries , and other Inconsiderate road users Cycles are slow moving vehicles, car and lorries aren’t hence different roads. Cycles don’t have side mirrors, insurance and most importantly a positive attitude towards other road users.. Most cyclists are also car drivers so do have good attitudes to other road users. Car drivers think they own the road and have poor attitudes to anything not powered by an engine (pedestrians, horse riders etc). Most also have insurance through their house insurance. They are legal users of the road. The twat who knocked off my side mirror didn’t have insurance.. had to pay £160 myself as he didn’t even stop while filtering between cars Cycles don’t have insurance
Lots do these days. Admittedly it's generally avid cyclists who ride for more than the odd day a month.
I cycle lots, for leisure, sport and socially. If a person cant drive a car without dealing with the a cyclist and the temporary holdup, is guess they have personality issues that make them unsuitable to drive anyway!!
Ermmm imagine a car doing 30mph on a motorway.. hope this answers your riddle "How would you approach such a situation? | |||
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"I feel sorry for them ... Our roads are a maze of pot holes .... then there's the lorries , and other Inconsiderate road users Cycles are slow moving vehicles, car and lorries aren’t hence different roads. Cycles don’t have side mirrors, insurance and most importantly a positive attitude towards other road users.. Most cyclists are also car drivers so do have good attitudes to other road users. Car drivers think they own the road and have poor attitudes to anything not powered by an engine (pedestrians, horse riders etc). Most also have insurance through their house insurance. They are legal users of the road. The twat who knocked off my side mirror didn’t have insurance.. had to pay £160 myself as he didn’t even stop while filtering between cars Cycles don’t have insurance
Lots do these days. Admittedly it's generally avid cyclists who ride for more than the odd day a month.
I cycle lots, for leisure, sport and socially. If a person cant drive a car without dealing with the a cyclist and the temporary holdup, is guess they have personality issues that make them unsuitable to drive anyway!!
Ermmm imagine a car doing 30mph on a motorway.. hope this answers your riddle
Some do. People moan, then pass it? Besudes the road is for everyone...even if not everyone likes that? "I rest my case | |||
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"I agree, I'm terrified of knocking someone off their bike. I wish they could use the pavements so they are safer
Maybe you should drive better then. Give at least 6ft clearance between you and the cyclist.
Cyclists aren't saftwr on the pavement due to meandering pedestrians and dogs etc
6ft clearance on British roads? Where do you live love? On the M6?
The highway code states at least as much room as you would give a car or one car width.
Not if it’s a single lane lol you have to go in the opposite lane to avoid the slow angry cyclist
I have to say on all your posts I don't think it's the cyclist who is angry.... Project much?!
Try explaining the Highway Code to a cyclist and see how polite he is
I speak to lots of cyclists. I know how polite they are
Errmmm.. do you guys talk about insurance prices? "Do you discuss insurance when talking to people who drive? | |||
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"I agree, I'm terrified of knocking someone off their bike. I wish they could use the pavements so they are safer
Clearly many of them agree with you as they already do.
Lol did you go to school with David Cameron? Cyclists don’t use pavements, I spent 45 minutes behind a bunch of cyclists on a country road yesterday.. they built up traffic and didn’t have the courtesy to stop and let’s cars go to ease traffic.. Bloody hell . What was you driving a mobility scooter ?
No, there were 25 of them in front on a country road jfjfindheyehiggjrsryjgjkyvjgksjjrdjgkfsaweyhvvitfjv side by side
Riding side by side reduces the length of the grouo so cars can pass easier."Perhaps a group of 25 cycles is too much for safe and considerate road use? | |||
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"I feel sorry for them ... Our roads are a maze of pot holes .... then there's the lorries , and other Inconsiderate road users Cycles are slow moving vehicles, car and lorries aren’t hence different roads. Cycles don’t have side mirrors, insurance and most importantly a positive attitude towards other road users.. Most cyclists are also car drivers so do have good attitudes to other road users. Car drivers think they own the road and have poor attitudes to anything not powered by an engine (pedestrians, horse riders etc). Most also have insurance through their house insurance. They are legal users of the road. The twat who knocked off my side mirror didn’t have insurance.. had to pay £160 myself as he didn’t even stop while filtering between cars Cycles don’t have insurance
Lots do these days. Admittedly it's generally avid cyclists who ride for more than the odd day a month.
I cycle lots, for leisure, sport and socially. If a person cant drive a car without dealing with the a cyclist and the temporary holdup, is guess they have personality issues that make them unsuitable to drive anyway!!
Ermmm imagine a car doing 30mph on a motorway.. hope this answers your riddle
How would you approach such a situation? "The question should be, did you get the point? | |||
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"I feel sorry for them ... Our roads are a maze of pot holes .... then there's the lorries , and other Inconsiderate road users Cycles are slow moving vehicles, car and lorries aren’t hence different roads. Cycles don’t have side mirrors, insurance and most importantly a positive attitude towards other road users.. Most cyclists are also car drivers so do have good attitudes to other road users. Car drivers think they own the road and have poor attitudes to anything not powered by an engine (pedestrians, horse riders etc). Most also have insurance through their house insurance. They are legal users of the road. The twat who knocked off my side mirror didn’t have insurance.. had to pay £160 myself as he didn’t even stop while filtering between cars Cycles don’t have insurance
Lots do these days. Admittedly it's generally avid cyclists who ride for more than the odd day a month.
I cycle lots, for leisure, sport and socially. If a person cant drive a car without dealing with the a cyclist and the temporary holdup, is guess they have personality issues that make them unsuitable to drive anyway!!
Ermmm imagine a car doing 30mph on a motorway.. hope this answers your riddle
Some do. People moan, then pass it? Besudes the road is for everyone...even if not everyone likes that? "If they do, they're breaking the law. There's a minimum speed for motorways, and sitting in the middle lane when not overtaking is also illegal. For good reason. You're welcome. | |||
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"I agree, I'm terrified of knocking someone off their bike. I wish they could use the pavements so they are safer
Clearly many of them agree with you as they already do.
Lol did you go to school with David Cameron? Cyclists don’t use pavements, I spent 45 minutes behind a bunch of cyclists on a country road yesterday.. they built up traffic and didn’t have the courtesy to stop and let’s cars go to ease traffic.. "They’re not meant to go one by one now... they form a sort of pack, going in twos for safety. I think. | |||
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"As someone who rides their bike often but also drives too there does seem to be an attitude in cyclists that they have the given right to ride two abreast, it’s a recent thing too, I have also been knocked off by a driver who didn’t see me as they didn’t look, there is no single answer, just don’t be a dickhead on the road wether you ride or drive, simples" It's in the highway code about riding 2 a breast. | |||
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"I feel sorry for them ... Our roads are a maze of pot holes .... then there's the lorries , and other Inconsiderate road users Cycles are slow moving vehicles, car and lorries aren’t hence different roads. Cycles don’t have side mirrors, insurance and most importantly a positive attitude towards other road users.. Most cyclists are also car drivers so do have good attitudes to other road users. Car drivers think they own the road and have poor attitudes to anything not powered by an engine (pedestrians, horse riders etc). Most also have insurance through their house insurance. They are legal users of the road. The twat who knocked off my side mirror didn’t have insurance.. had to pay £160 myself as he didn’t even stop while filtering between cars Cycles don’t have insurance
Lots do these days. Admittedly it's generally avid cyclists who ride for more than the odd day a month.
I cycle lots, for leisure, sport and socially. If a person cant drive a car without dealing with the a cyclist and the temporary holdup, is guess they have personality issues that make them unsuitable to drive anyway!!
Ermmm imagine a car doing 30mph on a motorway.. hope this answers your riddle
How would you approach such a situation?
The question should be, did you get the point? "Not really, there is often plenty of room to avoid slow moving vehicles on the motorway. | |||
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"I feel sorry for them ... Our roads are a maze of pot holes .... then there's the lorries , and other Inconsiderate road users Cycles are slow moving vehicles, car and lorries aren’t hence different roads. Cycles don’t have side mirrors, insurance and most importantly a positive attitude towards other road users.. Most cyclists are also car drivers so do have good attitudes to other road users. Car drivers think they own the road and have poor attitudes to anything not powered by an engine (pedestrians, horse riders etc). Most also have insurance through their house insurance. They are legal users of the road. The twat who knocked off my side mirror didn’t have insurance.. had to pay £160 myself as he didn’t even stop while filtering between cars Cycles don’t have insurance
Lots do these days. Admittedly it's generally avid cyclists who ride for more than the odd day a month.
I cycle lots, for leisure, sport and socially. If a person cant drive a car without dealing with the a cyclist and the temporary holdup, is guess they have personality issues that make them unsuitable to drive anyway!!
Ermmm imagine a car doing 30mph on a motorway.. hope this answers your riddle
How would you approach such a situation?
The question should be, did you get the point?
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"I feel sorry for them ... Our roads are a maze of pot holes .... then there's the lorries , and other Inconsiderate road users Cycles are slow moving vehicles, car and lorries aren’t hence different roads. Cycles don’t have side mirrors, insurance and most importantly a positive attitude towards other road users.. Most cyclists are also car drivers so do have good attitudes to other road users. Car drivers think they own the road and have poor attitudes to anything not powered by an engine (pedestrians, horse riders etc). Most also have insurance through their house insurance. They are legal users of the road. The twat who knocked off my side mirror didn’t have insurance.. had to pay £160 myself as he didn’t even stop while filtering between cars Cycles don’t have insurance
Lots do these days. Admittedly it's generally avid cyclists who ride for more than the odd day a month.
I cycle lots, for leisure, sport and socially. If a person cant drive a car without dealing with the a cyclist and the temporary holdup, is guess they have personality issues that make them unsuitable to drive anyway!!
Ermmm imagine a car doing 30mph on a motorway.. hope this answers your riddle
How would you approach such a situation?
The question should be, did you get the point?
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"Cyclists aren't polluting the atmosphere with exhaust fumes and mostly are not fat and lazy. There are a whole lot of inconsiderate bad drivers of cars ect, at least cyclists are getting off their arses and trying to keep fit. XXX" That maybe correct but slow moving and fast moving vehicles can’t be on the same road for everyone’s safety. | |||
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"I feel sorry for them ... Our roads are a maze of pot holes .... then there's the lorries , and other Inconsiderate road users Cycles are slow moving vehicles, car and lorries aren’t hence different roads. Cycles don’t have side mirrors, insurance and most importantly a positive attitude towards other road users.. Most cyclists are also car drivers so do have good attitudes to other road users. Car drivers think they own the road and have poor attitudes to anything not powered by an engine (pedestrians, horse riders etc). Most also have insurance through their house insurance. They are legal users of the road. The twat who knocked off my side mirror didn’t have insurance.. had to pay £160 myself as he didn’t even stop while filtering between cars Cycles don’t have insurance
Lots do these days. Admittedly it's generally avid cyclists who ride for more than the odd day a month.
I cycle lots, for leisure, sport and socially. If a person cant drive a car without dealing with the a cyclist and the temporary holdup, is guess they have personality issues that make them unsuitable to drive anyway!!
Ermmm imagine a car doing 30mph on a motorway.. hope this answers your riddle
How would you approach such a situation?
The question should be, did you get the point?
Not really, there is often plenty of room to avoid slow moving vehicles on the motorway.
Try again, did you get the point? "I find the buses around here worse than cyclists. They’re such shit heads! | |||
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"As someone who rides their bike often but also drives too there does seem to be an attitude in cyclists that they have the given right to ride two abreast, it’s a recent thing too, I have also been knocked off by a driver who didn’t see me as they didn’t look, there is no single answer, just don’t be a dickhead on the road wether you ride or drive, simples It's in the highway code about riding 2 a breast. " cyclists can ride two abreast on dual carriageways only, leaving a lane free for other road users to over take, im a cyclist and it even pisses me off when they block a single lane carriageway. Most cyclists do take the piss, i see it daily when i’m on the road going to work, jumping red lights, weaving through traffic to get to the front, and if they get knocked off they blame the motorist, if the cyclist was following the highway code properly, they’d have nothing to worry about. | |||
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"I feel sorry for them ... Our roads are a maze of pot holes .... then there's the lorries , and other Inconsiderate road users Cycles are slow moving vehicles, car and lorries aren’t hence different roads. Cycles don’t have side mirrors, insurance and most importantly a positive attitude towards other road users.. Most cyclists are also car drivers so do have good attitudes to other road users. Car drivers think they own the road and have poor attitudes to anything not powered by an engine (pedestrians, horse riders etc). Most also have insurance through their house insurance. They are legal users of the road. The twat who knocked off my side mirror didn’t have insurance.. had to pay £160 myself as he didn’t even stop while filtering between cars Cycles don’t have insurance
Lots do these days. Admittedly it's generally avid cyclists who ride for more than the odd day a month.
I cycle lots, for leisure, sport and socially. If a person cant drive a car without dealing with the a cyclist and the temporary holdup, is guess they have personality issues that make them unsuitable to drive anyway!!
Ermmm imagine a car doing 30mph on a motorway.. hope this answers your riddle
How would you approach such a situation?
The question should be, did you get the point?
Not really, there is often plenty of room to avoid slow moving vehicles on the motorway.
Try again, did you get the point?
I find the buses around here worse than cyclists. They’re such shit heads!"Maybe a different thread about buses will address your issues | |||
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"As someone who rides their bike often but also drives too there does seem to be an attitude in cyclists that they have the given right to ride two abreast, it’s a recent thing too, I have also been knocked off by a driver who didn’t see me as they didn’t look, there is no single answer, just don’t be a dickhead on the road wether you ride or drive, simples It's in the highway code about riding 2 a breast. cyclists can ride two abreast on dual carriageways only, leaving a lane free for other road users to over take, im a cyclist and it even pisses me off when they block a single lane carriageway. Most cyclists do take the piss, i see it daily when i’m on the road going to work, jumping red lights, weaving through traffic to get to the front, and if they get knocked off they blame the motorist, if the cyclist was following the highway code properly, they’d have nothing to worry about." Internet, Meet my spokesperson | |||
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"Cyclists aren't polluting the atmosphere with exhaust fumes and mostly are not fat and lazy. There are a whole lot of inconsiderate bad drivers of cars ect, at least cyclists are getting off their arses and trying to keep fit. XXX That maybe correct but slow moving and fast moving vehicles can’t be on the same road for everyone’s safety. " well most people seem to be able to cope most of the time..if someone driving a faster vehicle is unable to cope with traffic of differing speeds then they shouldnt be on the roads.This country is flooded with cars, anything that encourages people to cycle instead is undeniably a good thing! | |||
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"I feel sorry for them ... Our roads are a maze of pot holes .... then there's the lorries , and other Inconsiderate road users Cycles are slow moving vehicles, car and lorries aren’t hence different roads. Cycles don’t have side mirrors, insurance and most importantly a positive attitude towards other road users.. Most cyclists are also car drivers so do have good attitudes to other road users. Car drivers think they own the road and have poor attitudes to anything not powered by an engine (pedestrians, horse riders etc). Most also have insurance through their house insurance. They are legal users of the road. The twat who knocked off my side mirror didn’t have insurance.. had to pay £160 myself as he didn’t even stop while filtering between cars Cycles don’t have insurance
Lots do these days. Admittedly it's generally avid cyclists who ride for more than the odd day a month.
I cycle lots, for leisure, sport and socially. If a person cant drive a car without dealing with the a cyclist and the temporary holdup, is guess they have personality issues that make them unsuitable to drive anyway!!
Ermmm imagine a car doing 30mph on a motorway.. hope this answers your riddle
How would you approach such a situation?
The question should be, did you get the point?
Not really, there is often plenty of room to avoid slow moving vehicles on the motorway.
Try again, did you get the point?
I find the buses around here worse than cyclists. They’re such shit heads!
Maybe a different thread about buses will address your issues "Nah, I’d prefer to use this one | |||
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"Many road users are pretty inconsiderate these days. Standards are shocking in most quarters.." Yes people only look out for themselves now | |||
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"I feel sorry for them ... Our roads are a maze of pot holes .... then there's the lorries , and other Inconsiderate road users Cycles are slow moving vehicles, car and lorries aren’t hence different roads. Cycles don’t have side mirrors, insurance and most importantly a positive attitude towards other road users.. Most cyclists are also car drivers so do have good attitudes to other road users. Car drivers think they own the road and have poor attitudes to anything not powered by an engine (pedestrians, horse riders etc). Most also have insurance through their house insurance. They are legal users of the road. The twat who knocked off my side mirror didn’t have insurance.. had to pay £160 myself as he didn’t even stop while filtering between cars Cycles don’t have insurance
Lots do these days. Admittedly it's generally avid cyclists who ride for more than the odd day a month.
I cycle lots, for leisure, sport and socially. If a person cant drive a car without dealing with the a cyclist and the temporary holdup, is guess they have personality issues that make them unsuitable to drive anyway!!
Ermmm imagine a car doing 30mph on a motorway.. hope this answers your riddle
How would you approach such a situation?
The question should be, did you get the point?
Not really, there is often plenty of room to avoid slow moving vehicles on the motorway.
Try again, did you get the point?
I find the buses around here worse than cyclists. They’re such shit heads!
Maybe a different thread about buses will address your issues
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"I think there's enough room for them on the road just as long as cyclists don't ride two abreast and car drivers don't think they're as wide as a double decker bus and just pass with care. "It’s like saying that cyclists and pedestrians can be on the same pavement.. well needless to say that there will be accidents | |||
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"If we all cyclical then world would have a healther world " Unicorns and butterflies | |||
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"Cyclists and buses and lorries dont mix well at all. My daughter cycles, I worry." I would too. | |||
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"I feel sorry for them ... Our roads are a maze of pot holes .... then there's the lorries , and other Inconsiderate road users Cycles are slow moving vehicles, car and lorries aren’t hence different roads. Cycles don’t have side mirrors, insurance and most importantly a positive attitude towards other road users.. Most cyclists are also car drivers so do have good attitudes to other road users. Car drivers think they own the road and have poor attitudes to anything not powered by an engine (pedestrians, horse riders etc). Most also have insurance through their house insurance. They are legal users of the road. The twat who knocked off my side mirror didn’t have insurance.. had to pay £160 myself as he didn’t even stop while filtering between cars Cycles don’t have insurance
Lots do these days. Admittedly it's generally avid cyclists who ride for more than the odd day a month.
I cycle lots, for leisure, sport and socially. If a person cant drive a car without dealing with the a cyclist and the temporary holdup, is guess they have personality issues that make them unsuitable to drive anyway!!
Ermmm imagine a car doing 30mph on a motorway.. hope this answers your riddle
How would you approach such a situation?
The question should be, did you get the point?
Not really, there is often plenty of room to avoid slow moving vehicles on the motorway.
Try again, did you get the point? "No because its a stupid analogy | |||
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"I feel sorry for them ... Our roads are a maze of pot holes .... then there's the lorries , and other Inconsiderate road users Cycles are slow moving vehicles, car and lorries aren’t hence different roads. Cycles don’t have side mirrors, insurance and most importantly a positive attitude towards other road users.. Most cyclists are also car drivers so do have good attitudes to other road users. Car drivers think they own the road and have poor attitudes to anything not powered by an engine (pedestrians, horse riders etc). Most also have insurance through their house insurance. They are legal users of the road. The twat who knocked off my side mirror didn’t have insurance.. had to pay £160 myself as he didn’t even stop while filtering between cars Cycles don’t have insurance
Lots do these days. Admittedly it's generally avid cyclists who ride for more than the odd day a month.
I cycle lots, for leisure, sport and socially. If a person cant drive a car without dealing with the a cyclist and the temporary holdup, is guess they have personality issues that make them unsuitable to drive anyway!!
Ermmm imagine a car doing 30mph on a motorway.. hope this answers your riddle
How would you approach such a situation?
The question should be, did you get the point?
Not really, there is often plenty of room to avoid slow moving vehicles on the motorway.
Try again, did you get the point?
No because its a stupid analogy "Alright then | |||
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"cyclists can ride two abreast on dual carriageways only, leaving a lane free for other road users to over take" Somebody needs to read his Highway Code, because that is not true. | |||
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"We have lots of Country roads near me that hold cycling races. Many is the time i’ve nearly swerved into a ditch after oggling the hot men in lycra looking all sweaty and sunglassed up. Then i see their calves and a i feel a bit faint as i don’t like the way the calf muscle bulges out when they’re cycling " Yep seen a few cows riding a bike too | |||
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" Joking aside, the long and short is, that cycling on roads isn't going away. People forget that the inconvenience is actually a person. A vulnerable person at that if you drive aggressively and impatiently. Both sides have obligations. I tbink encouraging cycling is a good thing. " Hear hear The roads would be so much safer if more people got out of cars. Help the environment and the obesity epidemic | |||
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"I think there's enough room for them on the road just as long as cyclists don't ride two abreast and car drivers don't think they're as wide as a double decker bus and just pass with care.
It’s like saying that cyclists and pedestrians can be on the same pavement.. well needless to say that there will be accidents "In my area there are many shared pavements for cyclists and pedestrians. The rule for a cyclist to use them is they must go at a safe speed and give way to pedestrians. Its not that unsafe.. | |||
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"Here you go bananaman.... Knock yourself out "Absolutely, until they pay road tax and insurance and all the road tax we pay can go towards repairing all the bloody potholes and not towards cycle lanes. There you go. Lolololololo | |||
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"As someone who rides their bike often but also drives too there does seem to be an attitude in cyclists that they have the given right to ride two abreast, it’s a recent thing too, I have also been knocked off by a driver who didn’t see me as they didn’t look, there is no single answer, just don’t be a dickhead on the road wether you ride or drive, simples It's in the highway code about riding 2 a breast. cyclists can ride two abreast on dual carriageways only, leaving a lane free for other road users to over take, im a cyclist and it even pisses me off when they block a single lane carriageway. Most cyclists do take the piss, i see it daily when i’m on the road going to work, jumping red lights, weaving through traffic to get to the front, and if they get knocked off they blame the motorist, if the cyclist was following the highway code properly, they’d have nothing to worry about. Internet, Meet my spokesperson " There will always be arsehole road users in all category. End of | |||
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"We have lots of Country roads near me that hold cycling races. Many is the time i’ve nearly swerved into a ditch after oggling the hot men in lycra looking all sweaty and sunglassed up. Then i see their calves and a i feel a bit faint as i don’t like the way the calf muscle bulges out when they’re cycling Yep seen a few cows riding a bike too "Haha this guy! | |||
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" Joking aside, the long and short is, that cycling on roads isn't going away. People forget that the inconvenience is actually a person. A vulnerable person at that if you drive aggressively and impatiently. Both sides have obligations. I tbink encouraging cycling is a good thing. Hear hear The roads would be so much safer if more people got out of cars. Help the environment and the obesity epidemic "I run to my vehicle | |||
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"As someone who rides their bike often but also drives too there does seem to be an attitude in cyclists that they have the given right to ride two abreast, it’s a recent thing too, I have also been knocked off by a driver who didn’t see me as they didn’t look, there is no single answer, just don’t be a dickhead on the road wether you ride or drive, simples It's in the highway code about riding 2 a breast. cyclists can ride two abreast on dual carriageways only, leaving a lane free for other road users to over take, im a cyclist and it even pisses me off when they block a single lane carriageway. Most cyclists do take the piss, i see it daily when i’m on the road going to work, jumping red lights, weaving through traffic to get to the front, and if they get knocked off they blame the motorist, if the cyclist was following the highway code properly, they’d have nothing to worry about. Internet, Meet my spokesperson There will always be arsehole cyclist in all category. End of " I agree | |||
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"I agree, I'm terrified of knocking someone off their bike. I wish they could use the pavements so they are safer "I take it you've never been to Tokyo?!! | |||
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"Here you go bananaman.... Knock yourself out
Absolutely, until they pay road tax and insurance and all the road tax we pay can go towards repairing all the bloody potholes and not towards cycle lanes. There you go. Lolololololo "And there is the complete ignorance. Road tax does not pay for mending roads.. your council tax does! Road tax is to pay for the pollution you create cos as a country we have to pay a world organisation for the amount of pollution we create. Therefore the less your vehicle pollutes the less tax you pay. Simple fact As for insurance that was introduced to protect innocent 3rd parties as cars cause so much damage. It was never needed before cars even tho there was bikes and horses on our roads.. says it all really. If your that worried you can be protected from the uninsured if you but the right policy :/ | |||
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"I agree, I'm terrified of knocking someone off their bike. I wish they could use the pavements so they are safer
I take it you've never been to Tokyo?!!"I take it you have never been to London or a country road?!! | |||
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"As someone who rides their bike often but also drives too there does seem to be an attitude in cyclists that they have the given right to ride two abreast, it’s a recent thing too, I have also been knocked off by a driver who didn’t see me as they didn’t look, there is no single answer, just don’t be a dickhead on the road wether you ride or drive, simples It's in the highway code about riding 2 a breast. cyclists can ride two abreast on dual carriageways only, leaving a lane free for other road users to over take, im a cyclist and it even pisses me off when they block a single lane carriageway. Most cyclists do take the piss, i see it daily when i’m on the road going to work, jumping red lights, weaving through traffic to get to the front, and if they get knocked off they blame the motorist, if the cyclist was following the highway code properly, they’d have nothing to worry about. Internet, Meet my spokesperson There will always be arsehole cyclist in all category. End of I agree "Why did you change what i said? I said all road users.. stop putting all cyclists in the same boat. When youre judgemental like that it is a reflection on you not the cyclists | |||
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"Noooo cycling on pavements should be banned unless it’s a cycle path. Sooo tempted to knock them off. And I do tend to ask if their Mum won’t let them ride on the road
Disclaimer- the opposite side of our road has a wide cycle path. They’re too lazy to cross to it. "If you read my post about this. There are many shared pavenments. Check the highway code as they will be signposted. | |||
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"As someone who rides their bike often but also drives too there does seem to be an attitude in cyclists that they have the given right to ride two abreast, it’s a recent thing too, I have also been knocked off by a driver who didn’t see me as they didn’t look, there is no single answer, just don’t be a dickhead on the road wether you ride or drive, simples It's in the highway code about riding 2 a breast. cyclists can ride two abreast on dual carriageways only, leaving a lane free for other road users to over take, im a cyclist and it even pisses me off when they block a single lane carriageway. Most cyclists do take the piss, i see it daily when i’m on the road going to work, jumping red lights, weaving through traffic to get to the front, and if they get knocked off they blame the motorist, if the cyclist was following the highway code properly, they’d have nothing to worry about. Internet, Meet my spokesperson There will always be arsehole cyclist in all category. End of I agree
Why did you change what i said?
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"As someone who rides their bike often but also drives too there does seem to be an attitude in cyclists that they have the given right to ride two abreast, it’s a recent thing too, I have also been knocked off by a driver who didn’t see me as they didn’t look, there is no single answer, just don’t be a dickhead on the road wether you ride or drive, simples It's in the highway code about riding 2 a breast. cyclists can ride two abreast on dual carriageways only, leaving a lane free for other road users to over take, im a cyclist and it even pisses me off when they block a single lane carriageway. Most cyclists do take the piss, i see it daily when i’m on the road going to work, jumping red lights, weaving through traffic to get to the front, and if they get knocked off they blame the motorist, if the cyclist was following the highway code properly, they’d have nothing to worry about. Internet, Meet my spokesperson There will always be arsehole cyclist in all category. End of I agree
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I said all road users.. stop putting all cyclists in the same boat. When youre judgemental like that it is a reflection on you not the cyclists"That’s a dam good idea put the cyclists in a boat & push them out to sea | |||
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"Noooo cycling on pavements should be banned unless it’s a cycle path. Sooo tempted to knock them off. And I do tend to ask if their Mum won’t let them ride on the road
Disclaimer- the opposite side of our road has a wide cycle path. They’re too lazy to cross to it.
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"Here you go bananaman.... Knock yourself out
Absolutely, until they pay road tax and insurance and all the road tax we pay can go towards repairing all the bloody potholes and not towards cycle lanes. There you go. Lolololololo "You don't pay road tax....no one does. | |||
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"Here you go bananaman.... Knock yourself out
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"Now the saddle sniffers who are riding round in full Sky kit on €10,000 bicycles; that's an instant ban "Or any Rapha kit that they paid retail for | |||
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"Here you go bananaman.... Knock yourself out
Absolutely, until they pay road tax and insurance and all the road tax we pay can go towards repairing all the bloody potholes and not towards cycle lanes. There you go. Lolololololo
You don't pay road tax....no one does.
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"Now the saddle sniffers who are riding round in full Sky kit on €10,000 bicycles; that's an instant ban
Or any Rapha kit that they paid retail for "I’ve heard most of them use pre-owned Lycra suits to save the environment | |||
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"Here you go bananaman.... Knock yourself out
Absolutely, until they pay road tax and insurance and all the road tax we pay can go towards repairing all the bloody potholes and not towards cycle lanes. There you go. Lolololololo
You don't pay road tax....no one does.
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"Here you go bananaman.... Knock yourself out
Absolutely, until they pay road tax and insurance and all the road tax we pay can go towards repairing all the bloody potholes and not towards cycle lanes. There you go. Lolololololo
You don't pay road tax....no one does.
Excuse me??
It's true.
Is it? "Yes | |||
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"Here you go bananaman.... Knock yourself out
Absolutely, until they pay road tax and insurance and all the road tax we pay can go towards repairing all the bloody potholes and not towards cycle lanes. There you go. Lolololololo
You don't pay road tax....no one does.
Excuse me??
It's true.
Is it?
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"Here you go bananaman.... Knock yourself out
Absolutely, until they pay road tax and insurance and all the road tax we pay can go towards repairing all the bloody potholes and not towards cycle lanes. There you go. Lolololololo
You don't pay road tax....no one does.
Excuse me??
It's true.
Is it?
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"Now the saddle sniffers who are riding round in full Sky kit on €10,000 bicycles; that's an instant ban
Or any Rapha kit that they paid retail for
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"Here you go bananaman.... Knock yourself out
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You don't pay road tax....no one does.
Excuse me??
It's true.
Is it?
Yes
Is this your final answer?
Well as its the correct answer then I guess it will have to be "If you own a car, you pay road tax. Thank me later | |||
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"Now the saddle sniffers who are riding round in full Sky kit on €10,000 bicycles; that's an instant ban
Or any Rapha kit that they paid retail for
I’ve heard most of them use pre-owned Lycra suits to save the environment
Strangely enough there is a market for them "Vaseline sales are gong through the roof!! | |||
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"Here you go bananaman.... Knock yourself out
Absolutely, until they pay road tax and insurance and all the road tax we pay can go towards repairing all the bloody potholes and not towards cycle lanes. There you go. Lolololololo
You don't pay road tax....no one does.
Excuse me??
It's true.
Is it?
Yes
Is this your final answer?
Well as its the correct answer then I guess it will have to be
If you own a car, you pay road tax. Thank me later "When do you pay this tax? | |||
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"Here you go bananaman.... Knock yourself out
Absolutely, until they pay road tax and insurance and all the road tax we pay can go towards repairing all the bloody potholes and not towards cycle lanes. There you go. Lolololololo
You don't pay road tax....no one does.
Excuse me??
It's true.
Is it?
Yes
Is this your final answer?
Well as its the correct answer then I guess it will have to be
If you own a car, you pay road tax. Thank me later
When do you pay this tax? "And the point where I stop feeding troll and suggest you google | |||
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"Ooo, controversial.
I’m well known for saying controversial stuff "Me too, I could start a fight in a empty room | |||
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"Here you go bananaman.... Knock yourself out
Absolutely, until they pay road tax and insurance and all the road tax we pay can go towards repairing all the bloody potholes and not towards cycle lanes. There you go. Lolololololo
You don't pay road tax....no one does.
Excuse me??
It's true.
Is it?
Yes
Is this your final answer?
Well as its the correct answer then I guess it will have to be
If you own a car, you pay road tax. Thank me later
When do you pay this tax?
And the point where I stop feeding troll and suggest you google "Did you Google and realise I was right?! | |||
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"Now the saddle sniffers who are riding round in full Sky kit on €10,000 bicycles; that's an instant ban
Or any Rapha kit that they paid retail for
I’ve heard most of them use pre-owned Lycra suits to save the environment
Strangely enough there is a market for them
Vaseline sales are gong through the roof!! "Vaseline!!! FFS! Nothing less than the same £50 chamois creme that Brad had rubbed on his gooch! | |||
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"Fuck off on tracks designed for bikes leave the rds for vehicles And they use up more of the rds than cars do. Pain in the arse " How is that even possible? People do get rather irrational about this subject lol | |||
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"Fuck off on tracks designed for bikes leave the rds for vehicles And they use up more of the rds than cars do. Pain in the arse " Suppose you wish to ban horses too? | |||
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"Now the saddle sniffers who are riding round in full Sky kit on €10,000 bicycles; that's an instant ban
Or any Rapha kit that they paid retail for
I’ve heard most of them use pre-owned Lycra suits to save the environment
Strangely enough there is a market for them
Vaseline sales are gong through the roof!!
Vaseline!!! FFS! Nothing less than the same £50 chamois creme that Brad had rubbed on his gooch!"Have you ever met a vegan cyclist with his/her own re-useable metal straw? | |||
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"Fuck off on tracks designed for bikes leave the rds for vehicles And they use up more of the rds than cars do. Pain in the arse How is that even possible? People do get rather irrational about this subject lol " Rightly so.. | |||
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"Fuck off on tracks designed for bikes leave the rds for vehicles And they use up more of the rds than cars do. Pain in the arse How is that even possible? People do get rather irrational about this subject lol Rightly so.." Surely if someone is rightly irrational they are rational?! | |||
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"Fuck off on tracks designed for bikes leave the rds for vehicles And they use up more of the rds than cars do. Pain in the arse Suppose you wish to ban horses too?" I always find horse riders to be some of the most considerate road users. I always ride like someone is trying to kill me and my horse feels the same so we go slow and steady certainly never two abreast. | |||
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"Fuck off on tracks designed for bikes leave the rds for vehicles And they use up more of the rds than cars do. Pain in the arse How is that even possible? People do get rather irrational about this subject lol Rightly so.. Surely if someone is rightly irrational they are rational?! " With you so far but could go the way of Professor B.C., will remain interesting but will be left clueless | |||
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"Fuck off on tracks designed for bikes leave the rds for vehicles And they use up more of the rds than cars do. Pain in the arse Suppose you wish to ban horses too? I always find horse riders to be some of the most considerate road users. I always ride like someone is trying to kill me and my horse feels the same so we go slow and steady certainly never two abreast. " And you don’t jump lights, filter stationary cars and so on | |||
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"Fuck off on tracks designed for bikes leave the rds for vehicles And they use up more of the rds than cars do. Pain in the arse How is that even possible? People do get rather irrational about this subject lol Rightly so.. Surely if someone is rightly irrational they are rational?! With you so far but could go the way of Professor B.C., will remain interesting but will be left clueless "Haha | |||
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"Fuck off on tracks designed for bikes leave the rds for vehicles And they use up more of the rds than cars do. Pain in the arse Suppose you wish to ban horses too? I always find horse riders to be some of the most considerate road users. I always ride like someone is trying to kill me and my horse feels the same so we go slow and steady certainly never two abreast. " Horses have more right to be on the road than motor vehicles......My bike and I feel the same way on the roads as you and your horse | |||
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"Now the saddle sniffers who are riding round in full Sky kit on €10,000 bicycles; that's an instant ban
Or any Rapha kit that they paid retail for
I’ve heard most of them use pre-owned Lycra suits to save the environment
Strangely enough there is a market for them
Vaseline sales are gong through the roof!!
Vaseline!!! FFS! Nothing less than the same £50 chamois creme that Brad had rubbed on his gooch!
Have you ever met a vegan cyclist with his/her own re-useable metal straw? "Sir! If you have seen this amongst cyclists, then I have nothing more to bring to the party! #Trumped | |||
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"Now the saddle sniffers who are riding round in full Sky kit on €10,000 bicycles; that's an instant ban
Or any Rapha kit that they paid retail for
I’ve heard most of them use pre-owned Lycra suits to save the environment
Strangely enough there is a market for them
Vaseline sales are gong through the roof!!
Vaseline!!! FFS! Nothing less than the same £50 chamois creme that Brad had rubbed on his gooch!
Have you ever met a vegan cyclist with his/her own re-useable metal straw?
Sir! If you have seen this amongst cyclists, then I have nothing more to bring to the party! #Trumped "I’ve, unfortunately | |||
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"Now the saddle sniffers who are riding round in full Sky kit on €10,000 bicycles; that's an instant ban
Or any Rapha kit that they paid retail for
I’ve heard most of them use pre-owned Lycra suits to save the environment
Strangely enough there is a market for them
Vaseline sales are gong through the roof!!
Vaseline!!! FFS! Nothing less than the same £50 chamois creme that Brad had rubbed on his gooch!
Have you ever met a vegan cyclist with his/her own re-useable metal straw?
Sir! If you have seen this amongst cyclists, then I have nothing more to bring to the party! #Trumped
I’ve, unfortunately "Aluminium or titanium? I guess the traditionalists would put forward an argument for double butted steel. | |||
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"Noooo cycling on pavements should be banned unless it’s a cycle path." It is. Unless it is a designated cycle path, cycling on the pavement is an offence. Bananaman, you don’t pay road tax. Nobody pays road tax. The thing you pay for your car is vehicle excise. It’s based on the pollution your car creates, and has nothing to do with roads. | |||
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"Now the saddle sniffers who are riding round in full Sky kit on €10,000 bicycles; that's an instant ban
Or any Rapha kit that they paid retail for
I’ve heard most of them use pre-owned Lycra suits to save the environment
Strangely enough there is a market for them
Vaseline sales are gong through the roof!!
Vaseline!!! FFS! Nothing less than the same £50 chamois creme that Brad had rubbed on his gooch!
Have you ever met a vegan cyclist with his/her own re-useable metal straw?
Sir! If you have seen this amongst cyclists, then I have nothing more to bring to the party! #Trumped
I’ve, unfortunately
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"Noooo cycling on pavements should be banned unless it’s a cycle path. It is. Unless it is a designated cycle path, cycling on the pavement is an offence. Bananaman, you don’t pay road tax. Nobody pays road tax. The thing you pay for your car is vehicle excise. It’s based on the pollution your car creates, and has nothing to do with roads." It may not be called road tax, but the majority of vehicles on the road have to pay a tax, duty, excise - (whatever you want to call it, it's still money coming out of your pocket) to be on the road. The "tax" is supposed to be based on emissions, but your car can sit on your drive and pump out noxious gases as much as you want without paying a tax, duty, excise etc. It's not until you go onto the road that you have to give over your hard-earned money. In summation, there is no "road tax" in name, but most motorists have to give the government some money for using the roads. | |||
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"Noooo cycling on pavements should be banned unless it’s a cycle path. It is. Unless it is a designated cycle path, cycling on the pavement is an offence. Bananaman, you don’t pay road tax. Nobody pays road tax. The thing you pay for your car is vehicle excise. It’s based on the pollution your car creates, and has nothing to do with roads. It may not be called road tax, but the majority of vehicles on the road have to pay a tax, duty, excise - (whatever you want to call it, it's still money coming out of your pocket) to be on the road. The "tax" is supposed to be based on emissions, but your car can sit on your drive and pump out noxious gases as much as you want without paying a tax, duty, excise etc. It's not until you go onto the road that you have to give over your hard-earned money. In summation, there is no "road tax" in name, but most motorists have to give the government some money for using the roads." It's not for using the roads though. That's what council tax pays for. | |||
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"Noooo cycling on pavements should be banned unless it’s a cycle path. It is. Unless it is a designated cycle path, cycling on the pavement is an offence. Bananaman, you don’t pay road tax. Nobody pays road tax. The thing you pay for your car is vehicle excise. It’s based on the pollution your car creates, and has nothing to do with roads. It may not be called road tax, but the majority of vehicles on the road have to pay a tax, duty, excise - (whatever you want to call it, it's still money coming out of your pocket) to be on the road. The "tax" is supposed to be based on emissions, but your car can sit on your drive and pump out noxious gases as much as you want without paying a tax, duty, excise etc. It's not until you go onto the road that you have to give over your hard-earned money. In summation, there is no "road tax" in name, but most motorists have to give the government some money for using the roads. It's not for using the roads though. That's what council tax pays for. " That's what you're told, but is that actually the case? As I said, no "excise duty" no road use is the law. Council Tax used to be called "Poll tax" until people marched and complained, so the govt changed the name to "council tax" and everyone's happy. You still give someone else the same amount of money though - who knows where it ends up? | |||
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"Here you go bananaman.... Knock yourself out "Onley problem is the lour ses cyclists carnt ride on the parth unles its a cycle path. | |||
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"Noooo cycling on pavements should be banned unless it’s a cycle path. It is. Unless it is a designated cycle path, cycling on the pavement is an offence. Bananaman, you don’t pay road tax. Nobody pays road tax. The thing you pay for your car is vehicle excise. It’s based on the pollution your car creates, and has nothing to do with roads. It may not be called road tax, but the majority of vehicles on the road have to pay a tax, duty, excise - (whatever you want to call it, it's still money coming out of your pocket) to be on the road. The "tax" is supposed to be based on emissions, but your car can sit on your drive and pump out noxious gases as much as you want without paying a tax, duty, excise etc. It's not until you go onto the road that you have to give over your hard-earned money. In summation, there is no "road tax" in name, but most motorists have to give the government some money for using the roads. It's not for using the roads though. That's what council tax pays for. That's what you're told, but is that actually the case? As I said, no "excise duty" no road use is the law. Council Tax used to be called "Poll tax" until people marched and complained, so the govt changed the name to "council tax" and everyone's happy. You still give someone else the same amount of money though - who knows where it ends up? "If you're not using the car or emitting the fumes then you SORN it so you are not paying for something you are not doing.... Polluting the atmosphere. | |||
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"Noooo cycling on pavements should be banned unless it’s a cycle path. It is. Unless it is a designated cycle path, cycling on the pavement is an offence. Bananaman, you don’t pay road tax. Nobody pays road tax. The thing you pay for your car is vehicle excise. It’s based on the pollution your car creates, and has nothing to do with roads. It may not be called road tax, but the majority of vehicles on the road have to pay a tax, duty, excise - (whatever you want to call it, it's still money coming out of your pocket) to be on the road. The "tax" is supposed to be based on emissions, but your car can sit on your drive and pump out noxious gases as much as you want without paying a tax, duty, excise etc. It's not until you go onto the road that you have to give over your hard-earned money. In summation, there is no "road tax" in name, but most motorists have to give the government some money for using the roads. It's not for using the roads though. That's what council tax pays for. That's what you're told, but is that actually the case? As I said, no "excise duty" no road use is the law. Council Tax used to be called "Poll tax" until people marched and complained, so the govt changed the name to "council tax" and everyone's happy. You still give someone else the same amount of money though - who knows where it ends up?
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"Only the incompetent cyclists should be banned. I agree but cycles can’t maintain the road speed hence are a danger to themselves and others on the roads.. " What an complete bollocks you speak. My cycle group can maintain over 40kph average on the road and yet idiot motorist have to be macho and pass them. Like in all things there are idiots in cars lorries on bikes but all arexrosd users give people that means road users the courtesy they deserve. | |||
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" It's in the highway code about riding 2 a breast. " By implication. Section ( I think) 66 says, to paraphrase, "Cyclist should ride single file on narrow or busy roads". Which cyclists have decided means that can ride two abreast when ever they judge the road to be wide and not busy. "No such thing as road tax" is a common litany from militant cyclists playing with semantics. All powered vehicles are liable for 'Vehicle Excise duty' if that vehicle is used on the road therefore it is a tax on using the road but is not called a tax and doesn't refer to the road but the effect is the same. "It is based on emission". Nope. Fossil fuel generators do not pay it because they are not used on the road. Tractors and other farm vehicles do not pay it because they are not used on the road. Very low emission cars and electric cars ARE liable to VED (because they are used on the road) it is just that they are CURRENTLY rated as £0 per year tax ... sorry ....duty which is NOT the same as being exempt from VED. Not calling it 'road tax' is a psychological 'trick' to deny ownership but the fact remains that if you do not pay this 'duty' and use the road in a powered vehicle you will end up in court. | |||
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"Noooo cycling on pavements should be banned unless it’s a cycle path. It is. Unless it is a designated cycle path, cycling on the pavement is an offence. Bananaman, you don’t pay road tax. Nobody pays road tax. The thing you pay for your car is vehicle excise. It’s based on the pollution your car creates, and has nothing to do with roads. It may not be called road tax, but the majority of vehicles on the road have to pay a tax, duty, excise - (whatever you want to call it, it's still money coming out of your pocket) to be on the road. The "tax" is supposed to be based on emissions, but your car can sit on your drive and pump out noxious gases as much as you want without paying a tax, duty, excise etc. It's not until you go onto the road that you have to give over your hard-earned money. In summation, there is no "road tax" in name, but most motorists have to give the government some money for using the roads. It's not for using the roads though. That's what council tax pays for. That's what you're told, but is that actually the case? As I said, no "excise duty" no road use is the law. Council Tax used to be called "Poll tax" until people marched and complained, so the govt changed the name to "council tax" and everyone's happy. You still give someone else the same amount of money though - who knows where it ends up?
If you're not using the car or emitting the fumes then you SORN it so you are not paying for something you are not doing.... Polluting the atmosphere. "Are you kidding? I have a 3.5 V8 Land Rover that I round round my land all the time. It pumps out great clouds of exhaust but I never take it on the road, so I pay nothing to the govt for it. When I take my 1.2 litre car onto the road, I have to pay money. Does it matter what it's called - I still have to pay it to use the road! | |||
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"Noooo cycling on pavements should be banned unless it’s a cycle path. It is. Unless it is a designated cycle path, cycling on the pavement is an offence. Bananaman, you don’t pay road tax. Nobody pays road tax. The thing you pay for your car is vehicle excise. It’s based on the pollution your car creates, and has nothing to do with roads. It may not be called road tax, but the majority of vehicles on the road have to pay a tax, duty, excise - (whatever you want to call it, it's still money coming out of your pocket) to be on the road. The "tax" is supposed to be based on emissions, but your car can sit on your drive and pump out noxious gases as much as you want without paying a tax, duty, excise etc. It's not until you go onto the road that you have to give over your hard-earned money. In summation, there is no "road tax" in name, but most motorists have to give the government some money for using the roads. It's not for using the roads though. That's what council tax pays for. That's what you're told, but is that actually the case? As I said, no "excise duty" no road use is the law. Council Tax used to be called "Poll tax" until people marched and complained, so the govt changed the name to "council tax" and everyone's happy. You still give someone else the same amount of money though - who knows where it ends up?
If you're not using the car or emitting the fumes then you SORN it so you are not paying for something you are not doing.... Polluting the atmosphere.
Are you kidding? I have a 3.5 V8 Land Rover that I *round round my land all the time. It pumps out great clouds of exhaust but I never take it on the road, so I pay nothing to the govt for it. When I take my 1.2 litre car onto the road, I have to pay money. Does it matter what it's called - I still have to pay it to use the road!"*run round | |||
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"Here you go bananaman.... Knock yourself out "Cyclists should just have to pay the right amount of road tax for their vehicle, then there would be nothing to complain about. | |||
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"Only the incompetent cyclists should be banned. I agree but cycles can’t maintain the road speed hence are a danger to themselves and others on the roads.. What an complete bollocks you speak. My cycle group can maintain over 40kph average on the road and yet idiot motorist have to be macho and pass them. Like in all things there are idiots in cars lorries on bikes but all arexrosd users give people that means road users the courtesy they deserve. " Everybody, Meet the cycle group I was telling you about. Hey guys | |||
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"Foresters, I’ll give you the fact that you can indeed declare your car off-road and not pay vehicle excise. The reality, though, is that doesn’t happen in sufficient numbers to be remotely concerned about it. Your ignorance about how tax is collected and distributed does not make you right. *You* maybe don’t know that your council tax pays your roads, and your vehicle excise license does not, but *I* do. The fact that people informally call it road tax, or that council tax is poll tax in all but name, mean absolutely nothing in this context. The position put forward was that road tax should be used for pot holes instead of cycle lanes. The fact is it’s used for neither." Mate, you are special | |||
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"Not calling it 'road tax' is a psychological 'trick' to deny ownership but the fact remains that if you do not pay this 'duty' and use the road in a powered vehicle you will end up in court." Again, all of which means nothing when the discussion is about whether ‘road tax’ is used to pay for road repairs. It isn’t. I’m not a cyclist, btw. | |||
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"Foresters, I’ll give you the fact that you can indeed declare your car off-road and not pay vehicle excise. The reality, though, is that doesn’t happen in sufficient numbers to be remotely concerned about it. Your ignorance about how tax is collected and distributed does not make you right. *You* maybe don’t know that your council tax pays your roads, and your vehicle excise license does not, but *I* do. The fact that people informally call it road tax, or that council tax is poll tax in all but name, mean absolutely nothing in this context. The position put forward was that road tax should be used for pot holes instead of cycle lanes. The fact is it’s used for neither." Even the gov website calls it "vehicle tax". You're just arguing semantics of what happens to the money I give out. I don't care, I just know that if I didn't use my car on the ***road*** I wouldn't have to pay out as much money. Yours is a typical tax collectors argument. | |||
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"Here you go bananaman.... Knock yourself out
Cyclists should just have to pay the right amount of road tax for their vehicle, then there would be nothing to complain about. "And insurance | |||
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"Mate, you are special "Care to expand on that? Refute any of it? Or just do your usual thing? | |||
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" It's in the highway code about riding 2 a breast. By implication. Section ( I think) 66 says, to paraphrase, "Cyclist should ride single file on narrow or busy roads". Which cyclists have decided means that can ride two abreast when ever they judge the road to be wide and not busy. "No such thing as road tax" is a common litany from militant cyclists playing with semantics. All powered vehicles are liable for 'Vehicle Excise duty' if that vehicle is used on the road therefore it is a tax on using the road but is not called a tax and doesn't refer to the road but the effect is the same. "It is based on emission". Nope. Fossil fuel generators do not pay it because they are not used on the road. Tractors and other farm vehicles do not pay it because they are not used on the road. Very low emission cars and electric cars ARE liable to VED (because they are used on the road) it is just that they are CURRENTLY rated as £0 per year tax ... sorry ....duty which is NOT the same as being exempt from VED. Not calling it 'road tax' is a psychological 'trick' to deny ownership but the fact remains that if you do not pay this 'duty' and use the road in a powered vehicle you will end up in court. " Nope rule 66 says you should never ride more than 2 abreast and ride in single file on narrow or busy lanes and round bends. | |||
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"Here you go bananaman.... Knock yourself out
Cyclists should just have to pay the right amount of road tax for their vehicle, then there would be nothing to complain about. "But there isn't a road tax, its vehicle excise duty based on emissions so essentially we do pay the correct amount of tax.... Nothing! | |||
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" Again, all of which means nothing when the discussion is about whether ‘road tax’ is used to pay for road repairs. It isn’t. I’m not a cyclist, btw." It is irrelevant what it is used for. Flight tax levied on every flight is not used to maintain airports. | |||
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"If you pay council tax, and then the council uses part of it to pay for the roads, you're still paying for a road tax even if it goes through the council first. How difficult is this to understand?" But that's not even relevant to the issue being discussed. People are claiming that those who pay VED are paying road tax and that its used for the roads which is why cyclists should pay the same but they are wrong. How difficult is that to understand? | |||
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"Was nearly knocked over by cyclists just now on a footpath and was given abuse when I pointed out the no cycling sign" Did he/she tell you that he/she is saving the environment by not walking on the pavement? | |||
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"If you pay council tax, and then the council uses part of it to pay for the roads, you're still paying for a road tax even if it goes through the council first. How difficult is this to understand? But that's not even relevant to the issue being discussed. People are claiming that those who pay VED are paying road tax and that its used for the roads which is why cyclists should pay the same but they are wrong. How difficult is that to understand? " Haha.. Evie, are you not going out with your cycle today? | |||
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"Even the gov website calls it "vehicle tax". You're just arguing semantics of what happens to the money I give out. I don't care, I just know that if I didn't use my car on the ***road*** I wouldn't have to pay out as much money. Yours is a typical tax collectors argument." It’s not semantics. The fact is that any cyclist who is paying council tax is paying what they are due for the roads. As are the pedestrians. Because a road network is a societal requirement. Everyone, including people who don’t use them, benefits from the road network. | |||
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"If you pay council tax, and then the council uses part of it to pay for the roads, you're still paying for a road tax even if it goes through the council first. How difficult is this to understand? But that's not even relevant to the issue being discussed. People are claiming that those who pay VED are paying road tax and that its used for the roads which is why cyclists should pay the same but they are wrong. How difficult is that to understand? Haha.. Evie, are you not going out with your cycle today? " No. I'm hurting from a 34 mile ride yesterday. I went out in my car on which I pay VED and insurance though. | |||
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" But there isn't a road tax, its vehicle excise duty based on emissions so essentially we do pay the correct amount of tax.... Nothing! " Semantics. "It is not called road tax ergo it is not a tax on using the road" despite the fact that you only pay it if you use the road. | |||
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"If you pay council tax, and then the council uses part of it to pay for the roads, you're still paying for a road tax even if it goes through the council first. How difficult is this to understand? But that's not even relevant to the issue being discussed. People are claiming that those who pay VED are paying road tax and that its used for the roads which is why cyclists should pay the same but they are wrong. How difficult is that to understand? Haha.. Evie, are you not going out with your cycle today? No. I'm hurting from a 34 mile ride yesterday. I went out in my car on which I pay VED and insurance though. " I think you should go cycling today as well | |||
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"Even the gov website calls it "vehicle tax". You're just arguing semantics of what happens to the money I give out. I don't care, I just know that if I didn't use my car on the ***road*** I wouldn't have to pay out as much money. Yours is a typical tax collectors argument. It’s not semantics. The fact is that any cyclist who is paying council tax is paying what they are due for the roads. As are the pedestrians. Because a road network is a societal requirement. Everyone, including people who don’t use them, benefits from the road network." Yeah, ok. | |||
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" But there isn't a road tax, its vehicle excise duty based on emissions so essentially we do pay the correct amount of tax.... Nothing! Semantics. "It is not called road tax ergo it is not a tax on using the road" despite the fact that you only pay it if you use the road. " | |||
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"Even the gov website calls it "vehicle tax". You're just arguing semantics of what happens to the money I give out. I don't care, I just know that if I didn't use my car on the ***road*** I wouldn't have to pay out as much money. Yours is a typical tax collectors argument. It’s not semantics. The fact is that any cyclist who is paying council tax is paying what they are due for the roads. As are the pedestrians. Because a road network is a societal requirement. Everyone, including people who don’t use them, benefits from the road network. Yeah, ok." Lol you are giving in??!! | |||
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"Was nearly knocked over by cyclists just now on a footpath and was given abuse when I pointed out the no cycling sign" Or you could say... I was nearly knocked over by some twat riding where they shouldn't. Why do we have to put individual into groups and tar them with the same brush? | |||
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"As someone who rides their bike often but also drives too there does seem to be an attitude in cyclists that they have the given right to ride two abreast, it’s a recent thing too, I have also been knocked off by a driver who didn’t see me as they didn’t look, there is no single answer, just don’t be a dickhead on the road wether you ride or drive, simples" This I agree with. I think cyclists have been driven to exhibit a sense of entitlement on the road due to the lack of consideration by other road users. This in turn is inciting even the most considerate and empathetic of road users, myself included | |||
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