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Tesco Ditching "Best before dates" on fruit and veg
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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This is not the "use by date" which needs to be put on for health reasons.
Basically there prepacked fruit and veg will have not date at all to cut down on wastage. But Do you agree with this?
And will you have confidence in buying fruit and veg when you no longer know how long it has been on the shelf?
Your thoughts
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The best before date is just that, an indication when the item will be at its best. Most people go off the appearance and smell of food before they eat it anyway. In terms of fruit, you stick it in a bowl or basket when you get home anyway and throw the packaging away. The use by day will remain but even that is just a guideline. |
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"If it smells, looks, or tastes funky, or you have any doubts about it: don't eat it. Simples 
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The thing as most are bagged as in spuds and apples...so you only get the smell and the full feel when you get home and open the bags.. |
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"If it smells, looks, or tastes funky, or you have any doubts about it: don't eat it. Simples
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The thing as most are bagged as in spuds and apples...so you only get the smell and the full feel when you get home and open the bags.."
Don't buy the ones where the use by date is tomorrow then
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"If it smells, looks, or tastes funky, or you have any doubts about it: don't eat it. Simples
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The thing as most are bagged as in spuds and apples...so you only get the smell and the full feel when you get home and open the bags..
Don't buy the ones where the use by date is tomorrow then
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Read link...I can't see nothing on it that says they will be replaced by a user by date... |
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If people cant tell the difference between fresh and off fruit and veg then they should probably do the gene pool a favour and just stop eating altogether |
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"If people cant tell the difference between fresh and off fruit and veg then they should probably do the gene pool a favour and just stop eating altogether"
We thought the same thing. Sprouted jacket potato and wrinkly carrots for tea ? |
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"If people cant tell the difference between fresh and off fruit and veg then they should probably do the gene pool a favour and just stop eating altogether
We thought the same thing. Sprouted jacket potato and wrinkly carrots for tea ? "
mmmmm sounds like a fresh healthy meal. Count me in |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"If people cant tell the difference between fresh and off fruit and veg then they should probably do the gene pool a favour and just stop eating altogether"
When it is bagged it is not so simple....and believe me I know how to fecking shop  |
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I rarely buy my fruit pre-packed. Even if I do, I don’t look at best before dates, for a few reasons. Firstly, the fruit lasts much, much longer than they think. You can see and feel at the time of buying them if they’re good. Perhaps it’s also because I’m also used to buying at Aldi, where the best before date is hidden in a code that I can’t be arsed looking for and deciphering. |
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I agree with it. It's a canny move by Tesco, they will reduce the amount of fruit and veg they have to sell at discounts because it's close to the best before date. We try and avoid packaged fruit and vegetables if we can because there's often at least one rotten item but strawberries etc are difficult to find loose for obvious reasons.
I know too many people who refuse to eat anything past it's best before date and it's a shame. We've been known to merrily eat a ham sandwich then discover it's a week out of date  . It's a wonder we're normal really ...  |
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"If people cant tell the difference between fresh and off fruit and veg then they should probably do the gene pool a favour and just stop eating altogether"
It's not that easy with prepacked. Have you never bought strawberries and found at least one off in the middle? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"If people cant tell the difference between fresh and off fruit and veg then they should probably do the gene pool a favour and just stop eating altogether
We thought the same thing. Sprouted jacket potato and wrinkly carrots for tea ?
mmmmm sounds like a fresh healthy meal. Count me in"
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By (user no longer on site)
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"If people cant tell the difference between fresh and off fruit and veg then they should probably do the gene pool a favour and just stop eating altogether
It's not that easy with prepacked. Have you never bought strawberries and found at least one off in the middle?"
No. I don't know if its different in shops near you, but here thyre all in clear containers |
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"If people cant tell the difference between fresh and off fruit and veg then they should probably do the gene pool a favour and just stop eating altogether
It's not that easy with prepacked. Have you never bought strawberries and found at least one off in the middle?"
Or tomato sauce. ...nearly all come in bags of 6 in all supermarkets now...the loose fruit and veg is very limited. |
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"If people cant tell the difference between fresh and off fruit and veg then they should probably do the gene pool a favour and just stop eating altogether
It's not that easy with prepacked. Have you never bought strawberries and found at least one off in the middle?
No. I don't know if its different in shops near you, but here thyre all in clear containers"
No it isn't different they are in clear containers but not a single layer. The mouldy strawberry will be in the middle visible only to the likes of me who possess the super power of x-ray vision |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"If people cant tell the difference between fresh and off fruit and veg then they should probably do the gene pool a favour and just stop eating altogether
It's not that easy with prepacked. Have you never bought strawberries and found at least one off in the middle?
No. I don't know if its different in shops near you, but here thyre all in clear containers
No it isn't different they are in clear containers but not a single layer. The mouldy strawberry will be in the middle visible only to the likes of me who possess the super power of x-ray vision "
Sit down, let me tell you about an incredible piece of physics called 'movement'
How this works in this instance is, you pick up the container, then tilt it, causing the 'movement' to the contents inside allowing you to see what was once previously hidden.
No super powers needed, just good ol' fashion common sense and a little bit of science |
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This is where they lose money. It’s a way to stop ppl leaving short dated items in preference of longer dated produce. What they haven’t considered is their staff are useless at rotating stock. They will ultimately end up with more waste and lose more money  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Co op were selling bags of mis shapen potatoes for 89p that were the most potato shaped potatoes I had ever seen. Next to a fancy brand for about 2.50 that was full of all the little fiddly buggers that once peeled have vanished.
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By *ugby 123Couple
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"I will do what I normally do, use my eyes
I do that....but the latest date won't be there to see"
I don't look for any date, I look with my eyes and decide if the fruit or veg looks good enough to eat |
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"I will do what I normally do, use my eyes
I do that....but the latest date won't be there to see
oh good god "
I bet you've never done a shop in your life... good on opinions though eh |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I will do what I normally do, use my eyes
I do that....but the latest date won't be there to see
oh good god
I bet you've never done a shop in your life... good on opinions though eh "
No idea how you got to that assumption since I can spot fresh food better than you |
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"I will do what I normally do, use my eyes
I do that....but the latest date won't be there to see
I don't look for any date, I look with my eyes and decide if the fruit or veg looks good enough to eat"
As I've explained ruggers it's not always that easy when it's prepacked.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I will do what I normally do, use my eyes
I do that....but the latest date won't be there to see
I don't look for any date, I look with my eyes and decide if the fruit or veg looks good enough to eat
As I've explained ruggers it's not always that easy when it's prepacked.
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As I've already explained, its in clear packaging.
What is it about clear packaging that makes it hard for you to see the contents? |
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"I will do what I normally do, use my eyes
I do that....but the latest date won't be there to see
oh good god
I bet you've never done a shop in your life... good on opinions though eh
No idea how you got to that assumption
since I can spot fresh food better than you"
Reading |
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By *ugby 123Couple
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"I will do what I normally do, use my eyes
I do that....but the latest date won't be there to see
I don't look for any date, I look with my eyes and decide if the fruit or veg looks good enough to eat
As I've explained ruggers it's not always that easy when it's prepacked.
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It is, I have been doing it for years |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I will do what I normally do, use my eyes
I do that....but the latest date won't be there to see
oh good god
I bet you've never done a shop in your life... good on opinions though eh
No idea how you got to that assumption
since I can spot fresh food better than you
Reading "
You need nannying on what food to buy....good for you you're a winner |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I will do what I normally do, use my eyes
I do that....but the latest date won't be there to see
I don't look for any date, I look with my eyes and decide if the fruit or veg looks good enough to eat
As I've explained ruggers it's not always that easy when it's prepacked.
As I've already explained, its in clear packaging.
What is it about clear packaging that makes it hard for you to see the contents?"
Well let's try the apples and pears that are stood in a foamed bottom tray...also the strawberries that as been mentioned...oh and it's hard to smell the feckers in them plastic bags |
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"I will do what I normally do, use my eyes
I do that....but the latest date won't be there to see
I don't look for any date, I look with my eyes and decide if the fruit or veg looks good enough to eat
As I've explained ruggers it's not always that easy when it's prepacked.
As I've already explained, its in clear packaging.
What is it about clear packaging that makes it hard for you to see the contents?
Well let's try the apples and pears that are stood in a foamed bottom tray...also the strawberries that as been mentioned...oh and it's hard to smell the feckers in them plastic bags "
Tell you what, instead of taking the horrifying risk that is buying fruit and veg without a best before date on it. Just buy them at a different supermarket which caters your needs.
I'll go to tesco where there will undoubtedly be less queues since no one knows what fresh fruit looks like |
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"All the bags have wholes in them, sniff in the hole"
Tbh I would sooner see a date and if they have gone off I would take them back for a refund as they are still in date. ..now when there is not a date there... |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I will do what I normally do, use my eyes
I do that....but the latest date won't be there to see
I don't look for any date, I look with my eyes and decide if the fruit or veg looks good enough to eat
As I've explained ruggers it's not always that easy when it's prepacked.
As I've already explained, its in clear packaging.
What is it about clear packaging that makes it hard for you to see the contents?
Well let's try the apples and pears that are stood in a foamed bottom tray...also the strawberries that as been mentioned...oh and it's hard to smell the feckers in them plastic bags
Tell you what, instead of taking the horrifying risk that is buying fruit and veg without a best before date on it. Just buy them at a different supermarket which caters your needs.
I'll go to tesco where there will undoubtedly be less queues since no one knows what fresh fruit looks like"
You do that |
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"All the bags have wholes in them, sniff in the hole
Tbh I would sooner see a date and if they have gone off I would take them back for a refund as they are still in date. ..now when there is not a date there..."
Then use the use by date? Just a thought |
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Back in the day when there was a fruit and veg stall / shop in every town and village , everything was packed at the point of sale into a paper bag . No best before date , no plastic , no tray .
Life was so much easier them  |
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"All the bags have wholes in them, sniff in the hole
Tbh I would sooner see a date and if they have gone off I would take them back for a refund as they are still in date. ..now when there is not a date there...
Then use the use by date? Just a thought"
If you insist on popping up and quoting every post I make....please read further up in the thread where I have addressed that |
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By *ugby 123Couple
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"All the bags have wholes in them, sniff in the hole
Tbh I would sooner see a date and if they have gone off I would take them back for a refund as they are still in date. ..now when there is not a date there..."
Then you might need to stop shopping in Tesco's
Mr Ruggers has brought home fruit before now that he has checked the date rather than the bag and the fruit went off well before the date said, so believing the date could be an issue anyway |
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"All the bags have wholes in them, sniff in the hole
Tbh I would sooner see a date and if they have gone off I would take them back for a refund as they are still in date. ..now when there is not a date there...
Then use the use by date? Just a thought
If you insist on popping up and quoting every post I make....please read further up in the thread where I have addressed that "
Do some research. Fresh goods have to have a use by on them. |
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"Back in the day when there was a fruit and veg stall / shop in every town and village , everything was packed at the point of sale into a paper bag . No best before date , no plastic , no tray .
Life was so much easier them "
Agreed supermarkets introduced the prepacked and sell very little loose fruit and veg now...but they backed it up with a date for customer confidence...but with this comes losses so they are now backing out of the dated stuff...and yes I would sooner see it all sold loose agian |
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"Back in the day when there was a fruit and veg stall / shop in every town and village , everything was packed at the point of sale into a paper bag . No best before date , no plastic , no tray .
Life was so much easier them
Agreed supermarkets introduced the prepacked and sell very little loose fruit and veg now...but they backed it up with a date for customer confidence...but with this comes losses so they are now backing out of the dated stuff...and yes I would sooner see it all sold loose agian "
I fear there is a generation who wouldn’t buy anything not prepacked and dated . We but pretty much all our fruit and veg , bread , cheese , eggs and whatever else we can from our local market and farmers markets . |
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We are spoiled tf in this country. There's nothing wrong with eating sprouting spuds and wrinkly carrots especially if prepared decently. 30% of produced food ends up in the bin, it's disgusting. |
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"We are spoiled tf in this country. There's nothing wrong with eating sprouting spuds and wrinkly carrots especially if prepared decently. 30% of produced food ends up in the bin, it's disgusting. "
And I will eat pouting spuds...just would not buy them in that condition |
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I still fail to understand how a cheese that's been maturing in a cave for years, can then be packaged and given a use by date of just a few weeks. Don't people ignore those dates? I do and just cut off anything that looks unappetizing. |
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"I still fail to understand how a cheese that's been maturing in a cave for years, can then be packaged and given a use by date of just a few weeks. Don't people ignore those dates? I do and just cut off anything that looks unappetizing."
I think its something to do with the packaging itself. Same reason as why bottled water has a use by date on it.
Could be wrong though |
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Tesco has been gradually introducing this over the past few weeks, it's only now that it has been announced.
When shopping online with Tesco they have always stated on the website that products will have a minimum shelf life, I.e 3+ days, 1+ week, use on same day. They have been phasing this out for a few months now and every time we shop fewer items have this.
We always have issues with products having a shorter than promised shelf life, we just phone them up and they give us a refund for them.
Perhaps they are losing too much money if everyone does this |
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I've honestly never paid much attention to sell by/best before dates on fruit and veg. We eat a lot of home grown and farm produce and none of it has this info on it when it's pulled up or picked.
If it smells bad or looks off it goes in the compost, otherwise it all gets eaten however old it is and we're all still here to tell the tale |
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"I still fail to understand how a cheese that's been maturing in a cave for years, can then be packaged and given a use by date of just a few weeks. Don't people ignore those dates? I do and just cut off anything that looks unappetizing.
I think its something to do with the packaging itself. Same reason as why bottled water has a use by date on it.
Could be wrong though"
Bottled water doesn't have a use by date, it has a "best before" date. There is a lot of confusion amongst the general public because they are very different.
Items with a use by date can be harmful to health if consumed after the date - e.g. fresh fish/meat will have higher levels of bacteria growth which may cause illness.
Items with a best before date are not normally harmful if eaten after the date but the quality may have deteriorated - your packet of biscuits won't kill you if you eat them after the date but they might have gone soft. |
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"I still fail to understand how a cheese that's been maturing in a cave for years, can then be packaged and given a use by date of just a few weeks. Don't people ignore those dates? I do and just cut off anything that looks unappetizing.
I think its something to do with the packaging itself. Same reason as why bottled water has a use by date on it.
Could be wrong though
Bottled water doesn't have a use by date, it has a "best before" date. There is a lot of confusion amongst the general public because they are very different.
Items with a use by date can be harmful to health if consumed after the date - e.g. fresh fish/meat will have higher levels of bacteria growth which may cause illness.
Items with a best before date are not normally harmful if eaten after the date but the quality may have deteriorated - your packet of biscuits won't kill you if you eat them after the date but they might have gone soft."
Yea I know, I knew water had a date on it but I wasn't sure which one, which is embarrassing because I've got a bottle of water right next to me
But people often ask, why does water have a use by date when its billions of years old |
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"We are spoiled tf in this country. There's nothing wrong with eating sprouting spuds and wrinkly carrots especially if prepared decently. 30% of produced food ends up in the bin, it's disgusting.
And I will eat pouting spuds...just would not buy them in that condition "
Pouting spuds
My favourite auto-wrinkly carrot of the day so far |
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"We are spoiled tf in this country. There's nothing wrong with eating sprouting spuds and wrinkly carrots especially if prepared decently. 30% of produced food ends up in the bin, it's disgusting.
And I will eat pouting spuds...just would not buy them in that condition
Pouting spuds
My favourite auto-wrinkly carrot of the day so far "
I didn't even see the fecker  |
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"I will do what I normally do, use my eyes
I do that....but the latest date won't be there to see
I don't look for any date, I look with my eyes and decide if the fruit or veg looks good enough to eat
As I've explained ruggers it's not always that easy when it's prepacked.
As I've already explained, its in clear packaging.
What is it about clear packaging that makes it hard for you to see the contents?"
The organic strawberries I buy are in cardboard as they are phasing out plastic! See through that one smarty pants  |
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"I still fail to understand how a cheese that's been maturing in a cave for years, can then be packaged and given a use by date of just a few weeks. Don't people ignore those dates? I do and just cut off anything that looks unappetizing."
When the cheese is in the cave it is a massive lump and any bacteria that are around can only grow on the outside. When it is cut up into small pieces and packaged up for sale in the supermarket it has a much larger surface area to volume ratio and the amount of bacterial growth is higher so can reach harmful levels much quicker.
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"I still fail to understand how a cheese that's been maturing in a cave for years, can then be packaged and given a use by date of just a few weeks. Don't people ignore those dates? I do and just cut off anything that looks unappetizing.
When the cheese is in the cave it is a massive lump and any bacteria that are around can only grow on the outside. When it is cut up into small pieces and packaged up for sale in the supermarket it has a much larger surface area to volume ratio and the amount of bacterial growth is higher so can reach harmful levels much quicker.
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Hence why them bags of grated cheese go off in no fecking time |
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"I still fail to understand how a cheese that's been maturing in a cave for years, can then be packaged and given a use by date of just a few weeks. Don't people ignore those dates? I do and just cut off anything that looks unappetizing.
I think its something to do with the packaging itself. Same reason as why bottled water has a use by date on it.
Could be wrong though
Bottled water doesn't have a use by date, it has a "best before" date. There is a lot of confusion amongst the general public because they are very different.
Items with a use by date can be harmful to health if consumed after the date - e.g. fresh fish/meat will have higher levels of bacteria growth which may cause illness.
Items with a best before date are not normally harmful if eaten after the date but the quality may have deteriorated - your packet of biscuits won't kill you if you eat them after the date but they might have gone soft.
Yea I know, I knew water had a date on it but I wasn't sure which one, which is embarrassing because I've got a bottle of water right next to me
But people often ask, why does water have a use by date when its billions of years old"
The date on the bottled water is for the plastic bottle not the water |
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"I still fail to understand how a cheese that's been maturing in a cave for years, can then be packaged and given a use by date of just a few weeks. Don't people ignore those dates? I do and just cut off anything that looks unappetizing.
When the cheese is in the cave it is a massive lump and any bacteria that are around can only grow on the outside. When it is cut up into small pieces and packaged up for sale in the supermarket it has a much larger surface area to volume ratio and the amount of bacterial growth is higher so can reach harmful levels much quicker.
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Bloodyhell are you a scientist? |
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"I still fail to understand how a cheese that's been maturing in a cave for years, can then be packaged and given a use by date of just a few weeks. Don't people ignore those dates? I do and just cut off anything that looks unappetizing.
When the cheese is in the cave it is a massive lump and any bacteria that are around can only grow on the outside. When it is cut up into small pieces and packaged up for sale in the supermarket it has a much larger surface area to volume ratio and the amount of bacterial growth is higher so can reach harmful levels much quicker.
Bloodyhell are you a scientist?"
Google ffs |
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"I can't believe people have found things to argue about on this thread.
Fab never ceases to amaze me.
*Wanders off mumbling about eyes and seeing and bags and stuff..."
You forgot the nose |
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"I still fail to understand how a cheese that's been maturing in a cave for years, can then be packaged and given a use by date of just a few weeks. Don't people ignore those dates? I do and just cut off anything that looks unappetizing.
I think its something to do with the packaging itself. Same reason as why bottled water has a use by date on it.
Could be wrong though
Bottled water doesn't have a use by date, it has a "best before" date. There is a lot of confusion amongst the general public because they are very different.
Items with a use by date can be harmful to health if consumed after the date - e.g. fresh fish/meat will have higher levels of bacteria growth which may cause illness.
Items with a best before date are not normally harmful if eaten after the date but the quality may have deteriorated - your packet of biscuits won't kill you if you eat them after the date but they might have gone soft.
Yea I know, I knew water had a date on it but I wasn't sure which one, which is embarrassing because I've got a bottle of water right next to me
But people often ask, why does water have a use by date when its billions of years old
The date on the bottled water is for the plastic bottle not the water "
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"I will do what I normally do, use my eyes
I do that....but the latest date won't be there to see
I don't look for any date, I look with my eyes and decide if the fruit or veg looks good enough to eat
As I've explained ruggers it's not always that easy when it's prepacked.
As I've already explained, its in clear packaging.
What is it about clear packaging that makes it hard for you to see the contents?
The organic strawberries I buy are in cardboard as they are phasing out plastic! See through that one smarty pants "
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"I can't believe people have found things to argue about on this thread.
Fab never ceases to amaze me.
*Wanders off mumbling about eyes and seeing and bags and stuff...
You forgot the nose "
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"I can't believe people have found things to argue about on this thread.
Fab never ceases to amaze me.
*Wanders off mumbling about eyes and seeing and bags and stuff...
You forgot the nose
True, I'm obliged. "
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"Grow your own....
Surprisingly they don't come out if the ground or off a tree with dates stamped on them "
Oi you get back to doing cheese in your cave |
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Surely if you buy fruit and veg to eat you are sharp enough to be able to tell if it is still good to use or not! I have bought these things very cheap because of these dates and still had some uneaten and edible a week or two later, occasionally longer, depending on what it is and how it is stored...we are not children...we should have learned about this stuff before we start buying it! I don't see a problem with this...apart from for the people that have to shop from the reduced sections |
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"I still fail to understand how a cheese that's been maturing in a cave for years, can then be packaged and given a use by date of just a few weeks. Don't people ignore those dates? I do and just cut off anything that looks unappetizing.
I think its something to do with the packaging itself. Same reason as why bottled water has a use by date on it.
Could be wrong though
Bottled water doesn't have a use by date, it has a "best before" date. There is a lot of confusion amongst the general public because they are very different.
Items with a use by date can be harmful to health if consumed after the date - e.g. fresh fish/meat will have higher levels of bacteria growth which may cause illness.
Items with a best before date are not normally harmful if eaten after the date but the quality may have deteriorated - your packet of biscuits won't kill you if you eat them after the date but they might have gone soft.
Yea I know, I knew water had a date on it but I wasn't sure which one, which is embarrassing because I've got a bottle of water right next to me
But people often ask, why does water have a use by date when its billions of years old"
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"Buy from local farm shops and green grocers, less unnecessary plastic waste and not a best before date in sight "
I saw a shrink wrapped packet of 4 onions a couple of weeks ago, Styrofoam tray, plenty of clear plastic wrapping, all beautifully displaying 4 peeled onion's.
I mean, if only they come with some sort of protective layer..... |
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"I can't believe people have found things to argue about on this thread.
Fab never ceases to amaze me.
*Wanders off mumbling about eyes and seeing and bags and stuff..."
You need to find the whinging thread |
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"I still fail to understand how a cheese that's been maturing in a cave for years, can then be packaged and given a use by date of just a few weeks. Don't people ignore those dates? I do and just cut off anything that looks unappetizing.
When the cheese is in the cave it is a massive lump and any bacteria that are around can only grow on the outside. When it is cut up into small pieces and packaged up for sale in the supermarket it has a much larger surface area to volume ratio and the amount of bacterial growth is higher so can reach harmful levels much quicker.
Bloodyhell are you a scientist?
Google ffs "
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"I still fail to understand how a cheese that's been maturing in a cave for years, can then be packaged and given a use by date of just a few weeks. Don't people ignore those dates? I do and just cut off anything that looks unappetizing.
When the cheese is in the cave it is a massive lump and any bacteria that are around can only grow on the outside. When it is cut up into small pieces and packaged up for sale in the supermarket it has a much larger surface area to volume ratio and the amount of bacterial growth is higher so can reach harmful levels much quicker.
Bloodyhell are you a scientist?
Google ffs
Woah back off ok"
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"I still fail to understand how a cheese that's been maturing in a cave for years, can then be packaged and given a use by date of just a few weeks. Don't people ignore those dates? I do and just cut off anything that looks unappetizing.
When the cheese is in the cave it is a massive lump and any bacteria that are around can only grow on the outside. When it is cut up into small pieces and packaged up for sale in the supermarket it has a much larger surface area to volume ratio and the amount of bacterial growth is higher so can reach harmful levels much quicker.
Bloodyhell are you a scientist?"
Haha not anymore, I ditched it after A levels
I have worked in both the food industry and retail for the last 25+ years though. |
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"Grow your own....
Surprisingly they don't come out if the ground or off a tree with dates stamped on them
Oi you get back to doing cheese in your cave"
Blue veined....
Stilton |
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"I still fail to understand how a cheese that's been maturing in a cave for years, can then be packaged and given a use by date of just a few weeks. Don't people ignore those dates? I do and just cut off anything that looks unappetizing.
When the cheese is in the cave it is a massive lump and any bacteria that are around can only grow on the outside. When it is cut up into small pieces and packaged up for sale in the supermarket it has a much larger surface area to volume ratio and the amount of bacterial growth is higher so can reach harmful levels much quicker.
Bloodyhell are you a scientist?
Haha not anymore, I ditched it after A levels
I have worked in both the food industry and retail for the last 25+ years though. "
Well I'm still one. And I worked in the food industry for a few years. As far as cheese is concerned, those airborne bacteria are the same ones the cheesemaker uses. Cheese, much like aluminium or copper seals itself. Eventually the mould on the outside could make its way all the way through, but it takes an age for that to happen. Me, I'm happy to cut off any blue bits on a cheddar. I've never thrown out a stilton unless there was fur on it! |
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"Grow your own....
Surprisingly they don't come out if the ground or off a tree with dates stamped on them
Oi you get back to doing cheese in your cave
Blue veined....
Stilton "
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"Grow your own....
Surprisingly they don't come out if the ground or off a tree with dates stamped on them
Oi you get back to doing cheese in your cave
Blue veined....
Stilton
Aw a bloody tory....that's all I need "
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"They never put the booze in the OOPS aisles do they? Funny that."
Yep when I used to drink around 5 years back I got a few cases of John smiths 12 pack cans on a yellow stickers at £1.50 a case |
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"Grow your own....
Surprisingly they don't come out if the ground or off a tree with dates stamped on them
Oi you get back to doing cheese in your cave
Blue veined....
Stilton
Aw a bloody tory....that's all I need
You can get cream for that "
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
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I've always been paranoid about use by and best before dates on food. I never use anything after a use by date, but obviously best before, will check it out before eating. Tend to buy fruit and veg separately, when we're not growing our own. |
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"If people cant tell the difference between fresh and off fruit and veg then they should probably do the gene pool a favour and just stop eating altogether
It's not that easy with prepacked. Have you never bought strawberries and found at least one off in the middle?
No. I don't know if its different in shops near you, but here thyre all in clear containers
No it isn't different they are in clear containers but not a single layer. The mouldy strawberry will be in the middle visible only to the likes of me who possess the super power of x-ray vision
Sit down, let me tell you about an incredible piece of physics called 'movement'
How this works in this instance is, you pick up the container, then tilt it, causing the 'movement' to the contents inside allowing you to see what was once previously hidden.
No super powers needed, just good ol' fashion common sense and a little bit of science"
I read that standing up .
May be the packaging is different where we live then because I'm definitely not lacking in common sense old fashioned or otherwise but it's still not possible to see the strawberries in the middle of the pack no matter how much I move it.
Oranges in nets and potatoes etc in plastic bags are different, it's possible to move the items around inside the pack and check them.
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By *i1971Man
over a year ago
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Does no one buy from a fruit & veg shop or stall where nothing is pre-packed or has any dates on? Pretty much the only way I buy fruit & veg. The sooner retailers ditch such dates, the better. |
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"Does no one buy from a fruit & veg shop or stall where nothing is pre-packed or has any dates on? Pretty much the only way I buy fruit & veg. The sooner retailers ditch such dates, the better. "
We would if we had one nearby. The only greengrocers near us sells the stuff that nobody else will stock. None of it keeps longer than a day or two and the last thing I bought there was a butternut squash, it was so old that the seeds inside were sprouting. There was no way of telling from looking at it though. After that I've stopped buying from them. |
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"Does no one buy from a fruit & veg shop or stall where nothing is pre-packed or has any dates on? Pretty much the only way I buy fruit & veg. The sooner retailers ditch such dates, the better.
We would if we had one nearby. The only greengrocers near us sells the stuff that nobody else will stock. None of it keeps longer than a day or two and the last thing I bought there was a butternut squash, it was so old that the seeds inside were sprouting. There was no way of telling from looking at it though. After that I've stopped buying from them."
So that butternut squash would have benefited from a sell by date eh |
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"Does no one buy from a fruit & veg shop or stall where nothing is pre-packed or has any dates on? Pretty much the only way I buy fruit & veg. The sooner retailers ditch such dates, the better.
We would if we had one nearby. The only greengrocers near us sells the stuff that nobody else will stock. None of it keeps longer than a day or two and the last thing I bought there was a butternut squash, it was so old that the seeds inside were sprouting. There was no way of telling from looking at it though. After that I've stopped buying from them.
So that butternut squash would have benefited from a sell by date eh"
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"Does no one buy from a fruit & veg shop or stall where nothing is pre-packed or has any dates on? Pretty much the only way I buy fruit & veg. The sooner retailers ditch such dates, the better.
We would if we had one nearby. The only greengrocers near us sells the stuff that nobody else will stock. None of it keeps longer than a day or two and the last thing I bought there was a butternut squash, it was so old that the seeds inside were sprouting. There was no way of telling from looking at it though. After that I've stopped buying from them.
So that butternut squash would have benefited from a sell by date eh"
It would have benefited from some kind of date for sure. It was unusable and trust me I tried, it tasted vile.
I think we are all capable of judging if food is fresh and edible using our senses. However sometimes it isn't possible to see or smell it properly |
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I buy lots of stuff past its best before date, get some real bargains.
As for fruit and veg, even buying it in date is no guarantee it will last, so I cant see it matters if its dated or not. |
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"Does no one buy from a fruit & veg shop or stall where nothing is pre-packed or has any dates on? Pretty much the only way I buy fruit & veg. The sooner retailers ditch such dates, the better.
We would if we had one nearby. The only greengrocers near us sells the stuff that nobody else will stock. None of it keeps longer than a day or two and the last thing I bought there was a butternut squash, it was so old that the seeds inside were sprouting. There was no way of telling from looking at it though. After that I've stopped buying from them.
So that butternut squash would have benefited from a sell by date eh
It would have benefited from some kind of date for sure. It was unusable and trust me I tried, it tasted vile.
I think we are all capable of judging if food is fresh and edible using our senses. However sometimes it isn't possible to see or smell it properly"
Thank you
That was my point but you have made it far more eloquently than I ever could |
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"Does no one buy from a fruit & veg shop or stall where nothing is pre-packed or has any dates on? Pretty much the only way I buy fruit & veg. The sooner retailers ditch such dates, the better.
We would if we had one nearby. The only greengrocers near us sells the stuff that nobody else will stock. None of it keeps longer than a day or two and the last thing I bought there was a butternut squash, it was so old that the seeds inside were sprouting. There was no way of telling from looking at it though. After that I've stopped buying from them.
So that butternut squash would have benefited from a sell by date eh
It would have benefited from some kind of date for sure. It was unusable and trust me I tried, it tasted vile.
I think we are all capable of judging if food is fresh and edible using our senses. However sometimes it isn't possible to see or smell it properly"
My advice would be, tell the greengrocer your issue, and don’t shop there again until he fixes things his end. That’s bad stock rotation, something the supermarkets are great at.
I still think we as consumers should be exercising the power we have. If we don’t like it, don’t buy into it.
The best before date is hogswash. I’ve got a jar of chilli sauce that’s supposed to have gone off 8yr ago, and I still use it. |
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"Does no one buy from a fruit & veg shop or stall where nothing is pre-packed or has any dates on? Pretty much the only way I buy fruit & veg. The sooner retailers ditch such dates, the better.
We would if we had one nearby. The only greengrocers near us sells the stuff that nobody else will stock. None of it keeps longer than a day or two and the last thing I bought there was a butternut squash, it was so old that the seeds inside were sprouting. There was no way of telling from looking at it though. After that I've stopped buying from them.
So that butternut squash would have benefited from a sell by date eh
It would have benefited from some kind of date for sure. It was unusable and trust me I tried, it tasted vile.
I think we are all capable of judging if food is fresh and edible using our senses. However sometimes it isn't possible to see or smell it properly
My advice would be, tell the greengrocer your issue, and don’t shop there again until he fixes things his end. That’s bad stock rotation, something the supermarkets are great at.
I still think we as consumers should be exercising the power we have. If we don’t like it, don’t buy into it.
The best before date is hogswash. I’ve got a jar of chilli sauce that’s supposed to have gone off 8yr ago, and I still use it. "
It's one of those greengrocers that stock only produce that's on the point of being unsaleable. It's cheaper than other shops but it's really only worth shopping there if you're using the stuff that day and you can actually see from the outside that its ok. No good buying pears or squashes etc. Therefore not much point telling him of the issues. |
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"Does no one buy from a fruit & veg shop or stall where nothing is pre-packed or has any dates on? Pretty much the only way I buy fruit & veg. The sooner retailers ditch such dates, the better.
We would if we had one nearby. The only greengrocers near us sells the stuff that nobody else will stock. None of it keeps longer than a day or two and the last thing I bought there was a butternut squash, it was so old that the seeds inside were sprouting. There was no way of telling from looking at it though. After that I've stopped buying from them.
So that butternut squash would have benefited from a sell by date eh
It would have benefited from some kind of date for sure. It was unusable and trust me I tried, it tasted vile.
I think we are all capable of judging if food is fresh and edible using our senses. However sometimes it isn't possible to see or smell it properly
My advice would be, tell the greengrocer your issue, and don’t shop there again until he fixes things his end. That’s bad stock rotation, something the supermarkets are great at.
I still think we as consumers should be exercising the power we have. If we don’t like it, don’t buy into it.
The best before date is hogswash. I’ve got a jar of chilli sauce that’s supposed to have gone off 8yr ago, and I still use it.
It's one of those greengrocers that stock only produce that's on the point of being unsaleable. It's cheaper than other shops but it's really only worth shopping there if you're using the stuff that day and you can actually see from the outside that its ok. No good buying pears or squashes etc. Therefore not much point telling him of the issues."
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To be honest it can be difficult to spot one bad fruit in a punnet. It's not about people not knowing how to shop. Also some of the above posters are assuming all shoppers are super intelligent. What I do is take my fruit and vegetables from the back of the shelf where it has a longer date. Therefore has been packaged for a shorter time, thus likely to be fresher.I think I may go over to getting loose stuff though. Not at my local greengroccers though as their stuff is not very fresh xxx |
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"Does no one buy from a fruit & veg shop or stall where nothing is pre-packed or has any dates on? Pretty much the only way I buy fruit & veg. The sooner retailers ditch such dates, the better. "
I don't buy from my local shops because they are all outside on the pavement by roads that have a lot of traffic, including buses.
Some only sell by the bowl too. |
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"Most be something seriously wrong with people if they rely on a stamped date to tell them if something is fresh or not. Makes me wonder how these people function"
It’s a Nanny state sometimes. I never understand buying those bags of lettuce, it takes two secs to chop up an iceberg lettuce.
I get lots of my fruit and veg from a local market, so no dates. |
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if you buy from a fruit n veg shop rarely got use by dates on
bit like loose potatoes, loose carrots , loose mushrooms etc
i keep all my stuff in the fridge..
half the time if you put your fruit in the fruit bowl its passed its date before you eat it anyway
veg you boil so wouldnt know the difference |
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"To be honest it can be difficult to spot one bad fruit in a punnet. It's not about people not knowing how to shop. Also some of the above posters are assuming all shoppers are super intelligent. What I do is take my fruit and vegetables from the back of the shelf where it has a longer date. Therefore has been packaged for a shorter time, thus likely to be fresher.I think I may go over to getting loose stuff though. Not at my local greengroccers though as their stuff is not very fresh xxx"
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And that's from a not super intelligent fecker |
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"This is not the "use by date" which needs to be put on for health reasons.
Basically there prepacked fruit and veg will have not date at all to cut down on wastage. But Do you agree with this?
And will you have confidence in buying fruit and veg when you no longer know how long it has been on the shelf?
Your thoughts
Link here
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-44211616"
No I won't have confidence in it. The date is useful because it gives an indication of how long ago it was picked and packaged. A longer date means it *should* last longer. I still look at it because fruit with the same date might be rotten in one bag but ok in another with the same date.
It also makes it obvious if the staff haven't rotated the stock. The fruit looks the same in the bag but 3 days difference in when it was packed can mean the older bag will last 3 days less than the more recent date.
So just looking at the current condition of the fruit won't help. |
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"To be honest it can be difficult to spot one bad fruit in a punnet. It's not about people not knowing how to shop. Also some of the above posters are assuming all shoppers are super intelligent. What I do is take my fruit and vegetables from the back of the shelf where it has a longer date. Therefore has been packaged for a shorter time, thus likely to be fresher.I think I may go over to getting loose stuff though. Not at my local greengroccers though as their stuff is not very fresh xxx
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And that's from a not super intelligent fecker "
And selfish. Why not take it from the front....helping us use the food that needs to be eaten sooner....helping to stop wastage?  |
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"To be honest it can be difficult to spot one bad fruit in a punnet. It's not about people not knowing how to shop. Also some of the above posters are assuming all shoppers are super intelligent. What I do is take my fruit and vegetables from the back of the shelf where it has a longer date. Therefore has been packaged for a shorter time, thus likely to be fresher.I think I may go over to getting loose stuff though. Not at my local greengroccers though as their stuff is not very fresh xxx
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And that's from a not super intelligent fecker
And selfish. Why not take it from the front....helping us use the food that needs to be eaten sooner....helping to stop wastage? "
You can if you want matey...I pay my money and want the freshest of whatever I buy |
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"This is not the "use by date" which needs to be put on for health reasons.
Basically there prepacked fruit and veg will have not date at all to cut down on wastage. But Do you agree with this?
And will you have confidence in buying fruit and veg when you no longer know how long it has been on the shelf?
Your thoughts
Link here
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-44211616
No I won't have confidence in it. The date is useful because it gives an indication of how long ago it was picked and packaged. A longer date means it *should* last longer. I still look at it because fruit with the same date might be rotten in one bag but ok in another with the same date.
It also makes it obvious if the staff haven't rotated the stock. The fruit looks the same in the bag but 3 days difference in when it was packed can mean the older bag will last 3 days less than the more recent date.
So just looking at the current condition of the fruit won't help."
And the most common sense post of today |
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"To be honest it can be difficult to spot one bad fruit in a punnet. It's not about people not knowing how to shop. Also some of the above posters are assuming all shoppers are super intelligent. What I do is take my fruit and vegetables from the back of the shelf where it has a longer date. Therefore has been packaged for a shorter time, thus likely to be fresher.I think I may go over to getting loose stuff though. Not at my local greengroccers though as their stuff is not very fresh xxx
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And that's from a not super intelligent fecker
And selfish. Why not take it from the front....helping us use the food that needs to be eaten sooner....helping to stop wastage?
You can if you want matey...I pay my money and want the freshest of whatever I buy "
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you seen country of origin on the labels
could have been picked donkeys ago ,in and out of warehouses and lorrys , distribution centres etc etc
like icelands gear , i saw an under cover documentary deliveries defrost sometimes and then goes back in there freezers
all a bit dodgy .. |
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If it's really a ploy to make shoppers pay more for produce for longer then it's unfair - I am assuming that this will increase their income by increasing what we pay overall.
Perhaps they could introduce sliding scale percentage reductions as the product becomes decreasingly 'best' quality, so it's an equal win for customers and then. Otherwise it's reasonable to be skeptical and untrusting of the money grabbers.
I'd like to see them donate all the money plus a penalty, for all of the money that they have overcharged customers each year, due to computer and pricing errors. Separate issue but also a blatant con. |
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"If it's really a ploy to make shoppers pay more for produce for longer then it's unfair - I am assuming that this will increase their income by increasing what we pay overall.
Perhaps they could introduce sliding scale percentage reductions as the product becomes decreasingly 'best' quality, so it's an equal win for customers and then. Otherwise it's reasonable to be skeptical and untrusting of the money grabbers.
I'd like to see them donate all the money plus a penalty, for all of the money that they have overcharged customers each year, due to computer and pricing errors. Separate issue but also a blatant con."
Did you know that tesco pay you double the difference if they over charge you?
I've been over charged by £240 after spending a total of £300...work that out |
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over a year ago
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"If it's really a ploy to make shoppers pay more for produce for longer then it's unfair - I am assuming that this will increase their income by increasing what we pay overall.
Perhaps they could introduce sliding scale percentage reductions as the product becomes decreasingly 'best' quality, so it's an equal win for customers and then. Otherwise it's reasonable to be skeptical and untrusting of the money grabbers.
I'd like to see them donate all the money plus a penalty, for all of the money that they have overcharged customers each year, due to computer and pricing errors. Separate issue but also a blatant con."
Most supermarkets do this anyway. The staff do a “would I buy this?” Check. Anything unsuitable for sale is wasted, things like open Apple bags but the fruit is still fine or there’s an apple missing etc is marked down.
The dates are a guide. Things go off before the dates for any number of reasons. Years ago they didn’t have dates so not sure how it’s a “con” to take dates of to help prevent waste. Because many people won’t eat things past BB dates. |
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By *FFB69Woman
over a year ago
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"To be honest it can be difficult to spot one bad fruit in a punnet. It's not about people not knowing how to shop. Also some of the above posters are assuming all shoppers are super intelligent. What I do is take my fruit and vegetables from the back of the shelf where it has a longer date. Therefore has been packaged for a shorter time, thus likely to be fresher.I think I may go over to getting loose stuff though. Not at my local greengroccers though as their stuff is not very fresh xxx
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And that's from a not super intelligent fecker
And selfish. Why not take it from the front....helping us use the food that needs to be eaten sooner....helping to stop wastage?
You can if you want matey...I pay my money and want the freshest of whatever I buy
Ps I do like my steak to be 21 days matured though "
Yeah. Unless you check the dates of the stuff “at the back” it’s not always fresher or longer dates. People do this ALL the time without looking at the dates, not realsing the stuff underneath has the same dates as stuff on top/in front.
It also is usually only a day or two so relatively makes little difference. Fresh food goes off for a number of reasons. Sometimes well before the date sometimes after. |
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over a year ago
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"To be honest it can be difficult to spot one bad fruit in a punnet. It's not about people not knowing how to shop. Also some of the above posters are assuming all shoppers are super intelligent. What I do is take my fruit and vegetables from the back of the shelf where it has a longer date. Therefore has been packaged for a shorter time, thus likely to be fresher.I think I may go over to getting loose stuff though. Not at my local greengroccers though as their stuff is not very fresh xxx
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And that's from a not super intelligent fecker
And selfish. Why not take it from the front....helping us use the food that needs to be eaten sooner....helping to stop wastage?
You can if you want matey...I pay my money and want the freshest of whatever I buy
Ps I do like my steak to be 21 days matured though
Yeah. Unless you check the dates of the stuff “at the back” it’s not always fresher or longer dates. People do this ALL the time without looking at the dates, not realsing the stuff underneath has the same dates as stuff on top/in front.
It also is usually only a day or two so relatively makes little difference. Fresh food goes off for a number of reasons. Sometimes well before the date sometimes after. "
Bread has a normal shelf life of 4 days...a large loaf will last me 4 days....but the shelf will have on average 3.. sometimes 4 days difference.
So yeah I check dates and I know this is not fruit or veg...but it's a good example on why I check dates. |
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By *FFB69Woman
over a year ago
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"To be honest it can be difficult to spot one bad fruit in a punnet. It's not about people not knowing how to shop. Also some of the above posters are assuming all shoppers are super intelligent. What I do is take my fruit and vegetables from the back of the shelf where it has a longer date. Therefore has been packaged for a shorter time, thus likely to be fresher.I think I may go over to getting loose stuff though. Not at my local greengroccers though as their stuff is not very fresh xxx
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And that's from a not super intelligent fecker
And selfish. Why not take it from the front....helping us use the food that needs to be eaten sooner....helping to stop wastage?
You can if you want matey...I pay my money and want the freshest of whatever I buy
Ps I do like my steak to be 21 days matured though
Yeah. Unless you check the dates of the stuff “at the back” it’s not always fresher or longer dates. People do this ALL the time without looking at the dates, not realsing the stuff underneath has the same dates as stuff on top/in front.
It also is usually only a day or two so relatively makes little difference. Fresh food goes off for a number of reasons. Sometimes well before the date sometimes after.
Bread has a normal shelf life of 4 days...a large loaf will last me 4 days....but the shelf will have on average 3.. sometimes 4 days difference.
So yeah I check dates and I know this is not fruit or veg...but it's a good example on why I check dates."
Not always. Depends on deliveries and also who has actually put the stock out. Some people are great at rotating. Others not. And sometimes it’s super busy and ones get missed. The difference is usually 2/3 days. |
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"To be honest it can be difficult to spot one bad fruit in a punnet. It's not about people not knowing how to shop. Also some of the above posters are assuming all shoppers are super intelligent. What I do is take my fruit and vegetables from the back of the shelf where it has a longer date. Therefore has been packaged for a shorter time, thus likely to be fresher.I think I may go over to getting loose stuff though. Not at my local greengroccers though as their stuff is not very fresh xxx
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And that's from a not super intelligent fecker
And selfish. Why not take it from the front....helping us use the food that needs to be eaten sooner....helping to stop wastage?
You can if you want matey...I pay my money and want the freshest of whatever I buy
Ps I do like my steak to be 21 days matured though
Yeah. Unless you check the dates of the stuff “at the back” it’s not always fresher or longer dates. People do this ALL the time without looking at the dates, not realsing the stuff underneath has the same dates as stuff on top/in front.
It also is usually only a day or two so relatively makes little difference. Fresh food goes off for a number of reasons. Sometimes well before the date sometimes after.
Bread has a normal shelf life of 4 days...a large loaf will last me 4 days....but the shelf will have on average 3.. sometimes 4 days difference.
So yeah I check dates and I know this is not fruit or veg...but it's a good example on why I check dates.
Not always. Depends on deliveries and also who has actually put the stock out. Some people are great at rotating. Others not. And sometimes it’s super busy and ones get missed. The difference is usually 2/3 days. "
Nope I also squeeze the fecker for softness |
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over a year ago
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"I buy loose fruit and veg, so it's a non issue for me
Just watch out for the butternut squash's
Duly noted "
Oh and turnips ...or as the southerners call them swedes |
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