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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Honestly I can not believe that us guys are always getting told to put more effort into theses messages. The last 3 women I have got intouch with I'd get more conversation out of a brick 1 or 2 word answers. Come on lady's start putting the effort in

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Well said buddy ! Well said !

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By *ady LickWoman  over a year ago

Northampton Somewhere

If they're replying to your message (is that what you mean?) I'd say they're being polite but aren't interested perhaps?

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By *SAchickWoman  over a year ago

Hillside desolate

They're probably men

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Not just boring or stuck up like I've found at parties just recently

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By *crumdiddlyumptiousMan  over a year ago

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Yes

No

Maybe

Thanks

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Honestly I can not believe that us guys are always getting told to put more effort into theses messages. The last 3 women I have got intouch with I'd get more conversation out of a brick 1 or 2 word answers. Come on lady's start putting the effort in "

Funny you should say that. I got chatting to a female yesterday and it was painful. Tried my hardest to make conversation, but her replies were one word answers. Painful.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

There will always be someone making excuses for women not putting any effort in. It will always be the man's fault.

We have the power you know; we can do no wrong.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

If you started the conversation why do they need to make the effort?

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By *crumdiddlyumptiousMan  over a year ago

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"If you started the conversation why do they need to make the effort? "

It helps with the conversation

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"If you started the conversation why do they need to make the effort? "
booom there women can't do nothing wrong I've put the effot in to chat must of been a good effort to get a reply. So why message me back if you can't be arsed to talk.

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By *igeiaWoman  over a year ago

Bristol

Meh. When it feels right, effort doesn't seem like effort. When it doesn't it becomes a chore. The equation goes both ways.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

LOL and the chances of you getting any replies have dropped to 0.000009% after this post

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By *emini ManMan  over a year ago

There and to the left a bit

Some people you just "click" with and conversation flows easily, others there's no spark and things either fizzle out or don't get started, it's just the way it is

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"LOL and the chances of you getting any replies have dropped to 0.000009% after this post "
to be honest I couldn't give a shit. I attend parties and get enough there. But it's becoming a joke always the man's fault because for some reason only on here women are the chief judge and executioner

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Op if you get a reply you luckier than some there plenty of threads about messages being deleted without being read

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

How does the saying go... if you have to force it it’s probably shit? Keep that in mind

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"There will always be someone making excuses for women not putting any effort in. It will always be the man's fault.

We have the power you know; we can do no wrong. "

This...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Honestly I can not believe that us guys are always getting told to put more effort into theses messages. The last 3 women I have got intouch with I'd get more conversation out of a brick 1 or 2 word answers. Come on lady's start putting the effort in "

At least a response!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Women are lazy anyway.

They wait for you.to make the first move even when they like you

They're bthe cheapest creatures around, expecting you to pay for everything yet in the same always going on about how they don't need a man, independent and got their money but at the dinner table, their socialists.

I don't care if you say my chances of getting a meet go down. Only proves my point, your only selling point is your pussy, one that depreciates with age and every pump.

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By *rightonsteveMan  over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

I think, OP, they were being polite at answering but were giving you the hint that they weren’t interested.

I find myself in similar situations with men on occasion but an easy to understand “GET LOST” usually works.

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By *SAchickWoman  over a year ago

Hillside desolate


"LOL and the chances of you getting any replies have dropped to 0.000009% after this post to be honest I couldn't give a shit. I attend parties and get enough there. But it's becoming a joke always the man's fault because for some reason only on here women are the chief judge and executioner "

But you just said a few posts ago the women at parties recently are boring and stuck up

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By *ady LickWoman  over a year ago

Northampton Somewhere


"If you started the conversation why do they need to make the effort? booom there women can't do nothing wrong I've put the effot in to chat must of been a good effort to get a reply. So why message me back if you can't be arsed to talk. "

They would put the effort in if they were interested in meeting you ~ I'm pretty sure of that.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Women are lazy anyway.

They wait for you.to make the first move even when they like you

They're bthe cheapest creatures around, expecting you to pay for everything yet in the same always going on about how they don't need a man, independent and got their money but at the dinner table, their socialists.

I don't care if you say my chances of getting a meet go down. Only proves my point, your only selling point is your pussy, one that depreciates with age and every pump."

Oh wow I don’t even know where to start with you

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

But if not interested why not just say be honest. And why say they like your pics if they can't be bothered

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"If you started the conversation why do they need to make the effort? "

Are you being serious?

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By *SAchickWoman  over a year ago

Hillside desolate


"Women are lazy anyway.

They wait for you.to make the first move even when they like you

They're bthe cheapest creatures around, expecting you to pay for everything yet in the same always going on about how they don't need a man, independent and got their money but at the dinner table, their socialists.

I don't care if you say my chances of getting a meet go down. Only proves my point, your only selling point is your pussy, one that depreciates with age and every pump.

Oh wow I don’t even know where to start with you "

Mr fantastic wonder living up to his username

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Women are lazy anyway.

They wait for you.to make the first move even when they like you

They're bthe cheapest creatures around, expecting you to pay for everything yet in the same always going on about how they don't need a man, independent and got their money but at the dinner table, their socialists.

I don't care if you say my chances of getting a meet go down. Only proves my point, your only selling point is your pussy, one that depreciates with age and every pump."

You've pretty much described me.

I'm getting plenty of sex despite all that though.

Pussy power!!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"If you started the conversation why do they need to make the effort?

It helps with the conversation"

But if the conversation is hard work at hello surely you just move on, it's one of the very first filters.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Some people you just "click" with and conversation flows easily, others there's no spark and things either fizzle out or don't get started, it's just the way it is "

A meeting of minds.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Women are lazy anyway.

They wait for you.to make the first move even when they like you

They're bthe cheapest creatures around, expecting you to pay for everything yet in the same always going on about how they don't need a man, independent and got their money but at the dinner table, their socialists.

I don't care if you say my chances of getting a meet go down. Only proves my point, your only selling point is your pussy, one that depreciates with age and every pump.

Oh wow I don’t even know where to start with you

Mr fantastic wonder living up to his username "

The mind boggles

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Those that are effort ain't worth it.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Meh. When it feels right, effort doesn't seem like effort. When it doesn't it becomes a chore. The equation goes both ways."

Just this

Perhaps the other person is too busy to give a conversation their full attention right at that moment, but in that case I'd hope they have the manners to say so.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Women are lazy anyway.

They wait for you.to make the first move even when they like you

They're bthe cheapest creatures around, expecting you to pay for everything yet in the same always going on about how they don't need a man, independent and got their money but at the dinner table, their socialists.

I don't care if you say my chances of getting a meet go down. Only proves my point, your only selling point is your pussy, one that depreciates with age and every pump.

Oh wow I don’t even know where to start with you

Mr fantastic wonder living up to his username

The mind boggles"

Go for it.

Refute my claims and don't use emotion

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By *s_macWoman  over a year ago

Traffic land


"Women are lazy anyway.

They wait for you.to make the first move even when they like you

They're bthe cheapest creatures around, expecting you to pay for everything yet in the same always going on about how they don't need a man, independent and got their money but at the dinner table, their socialists.

I don't care if you say my chances of getting a meet go down. Only proves my point, your only selling point is your pussy, one that depreciates with age and every pump."

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By *SAchickWoman  over a year ago

Hillside desolate


"Women are lazy anyway.

They wait for you.to make the first move even when they like you

They're bthe cheapest creatures around, expecting you to pay for everything yet in the same always going on about how they don't need a man, independent and got their money but at the dinner table, their socialists.

I don't care if you say my chances of getting a meet go down. Only proves my point, your only selling point is your pussy, one that depreciates with age and every pump.

Oh wow I don’t even know where to start with you

Mr fantastic wonder living up to his username

The mind boggles

Go for it.

Refute my claims and don't use emotion"

I don't feed trolls. Back under the bridge with you

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Politeness is free if you can't be arsed just say don't say mmm nice after I've sent a pic then proceed to be the most boring effortless person since David Cameron. Then blame the man for everything.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Politeness is free if you can't be arsed just say don't say mmm nice after I've sent a pic then proceed to be the most boring effortless person since David Cameron. Then blame the man for everything. "

I don't get what the issue is. If you aren't happy end the conversation. It's not really a big deal

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Women are terrible conversation starters. All the ones who have messaged me first usually just say “face pic?” Or some variation of that

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Women are lazy anyway.

They wait for you.to make the first move even when they like you

They're bthe cheapest creatures around, expecting you to pay for everything yet in the same always going on about how they don't need a man, independent and got their money but at the dinner table, their socialists.

I don't care if you say my chances of getting a meet go down. Only proves my point, your only selling point is your pussy, one that depreciates with age and every pump.

Oh wow I don’t even know where to start with you

Mr fantastic wonder living up to his username

The mind boggles

Go for it.

Refute my claims and don't use emotion

I don't feed trolls. Back under the bridge with you "

I’m quite busy getting ready for a meet

What’s the point anyway when your narrow little mind is made up? I’m not going to change it nor waste my time and energy trying when both are going to be better spent tonight if you know what I mean

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Single females are able to be fussier and don't need to put any effort in.. ( well at least they feel they don't need to )

They can easily move onto the next message and arrange a meet, unfortunately for single guys ( and couples looking for that unicorn ) you/we have to stand out and show we are worth their time... Fir us it easily could be weeks or months before. We get chatting properly again... Fir her.. a matter of mins if not seconds...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Women are terrible conversation starters. All the ones who have messaged me first usually just say “face pic?” Or some variation of that"

Send them a message back saying yes please, I'd like to see if I fancy you before I spend any energy talking to you.

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By *s_macWoman  over a year ago

Traffic land


"Women are terrible conversation starters. All the ones who have messaged me first usually just say “face pic?” Or some variation of that"

Or FAF?

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

I'm just putting my point across that it's not always us men that's at fault for not making the effort you women need to look at yourself and stop been so stuck up thinking everybody owes you something

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Single females are able to be fussier and don't need to put any effort in.. ( well at least they feel they don't need to )

They can easily move onto the next message and arrange a meet, unfortunately for single guys ( and couples looking for that unicorn ) you/we have to stand out and show we are worth their time... Fir us it easily could be weeks or months before. We get chatting properly again... Fir her.. a matter of mins if not seconds...

"

Not true for all. But thanks for the generalisation

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Honestly I can not believe that us guys are always getting told to put more effort into theses messages. The last 3 women I have got intouch with I'd get more conversation out of a brick 1 or 2 word answers. Come on lady's start putting the effort in

Funny you should say that. I got chatting to a female yesterday and it was painful. Tried my hardest to make conversation, but her replies were one word answers. Painful. "

She wasn’t interested then, I make an effort with guys I’m interested in x

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By *uke olovingmanMan  over a year ago

Gravesend

No

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'm just putting my point across that it's not always us men that's at fault for not making the effort you women need to look at yourself and stop been so stuck up thinking everybody owes you something "

I'll definitely do that now you've said. If you could just change your ways to please me then we'll all be happy

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Honestly I can not believe that us guys are always getting told to put more effort into theses messages. The last 3 women I have got intouch with I'd get more conversation out of a brick 1 or 2 word answers. Come on lady's start putting the effort in

Funny you should say that. I got chatting to a female yesterday and it was painful. Tried my hardest to make conversation, but her replies were one word answers. Painful.

She wasn’t interested then, I make an effort with guys I’m interested in x"

Oh, so that’s why you only send one word replies....hint taken

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Women are lazy anyway.

They wait for you.to make the first move even when they like you

They're bthe cheapest creatures around, expecting you to pay for everything yet in the same always going on about how they don't need a man, independent and got their money but at the dinner table, their socialists.

I don't care if you say my chances of getting a meet go down. Only proves my point, your only selling point is your pussy, one that depreciates with age and every pump.

Oh wow I don’t even know where to start with you

Mr fantastic wonder living up to his username

The mind boggles

Go for it.

Refute my claims and don't use emotion"

My pussy is like a fine wine...or cheese

It gets better with age

And no...you can't pay the cheese and wine bill

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By *edgehogMan  over a year ago

Swansea

Sounds like women aren't for you. Maybe consider your options.

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By *rightonsteveMan  over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

I quite fancy a nibble of cheese and a sipple of wine

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Women are lazy anyway.

They wait for you.to make the first move even when they like you

They're bthe cheapest creatures around, expecting you to pay for everything yet in the same always going on about how they don't need a man, independent and got their money but at the dinner table, their socialists.

I don't care if you say my chances of getting a meet go down. Only proves my point, your only selling point is your pussy, one that depreciates with age and every pump."

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By *edgehogMan  over a year ago

Swansea


"I'm just putting my point across that it's not always us men that's at fault for not making the effort you women need to look at yourself and stop been so stuck up thinking everybody owes you something

I'll definitely do that now you've said. If you could just change your ways to please me then we'll all be happy "

Haha!

Perfect response!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Honestly I can not believe that us guys are always getting told to put more effort into theses messages. The last 3 women I have got intouch with I'd get more conversation out of a brick 1 or 2 word answers. Come on lady's start putting the effort in "

Maybe they just aren't interested or they dont like your line in banter

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By *layfullsamMan  over a year ago

Solihull


"How does the saying go... if you have to force it it’s probably shit? Keep that in mind"

That works for anal sex as well

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I quite fancy a nibble of cheese and a sipple of wine "

How big is your....wallet?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"[CBA poster at 16/05/18 21:38:57]"

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By *ensualtouch15Man  over a year ago

ashby de la zouch


"If you started the conversation why do they need to make the effort? "

That is a stupid comment !

I'm a reasonably intelligent , reasonably articulate , reasonably attractive , reasonably attentive and competent at engaging in pleasurable sexual encounters

Read reasonable as being modest

And my standards will not lower to a woman expecting a performing dog

Now general rule of fab is women oddly think they need not message as out of the 300 messages they receive there will be occasionally a man they find attractive and would WANT to become intimate with

At that point the power switches from the woman to an equal status

Even if messaged by the man first IF the man is desirable with desirable human attributes , physical and personality , he deserves and is worthy of mutual respect and mutual seduction

I send a first message to give a lady an opportunity to discover more and if she is tempted by my profile an opportunity to persuade me that I want to meet her too

It is beyond me why so many seem to think that their ideal match would be sycophantic with so little self respect that if would tolerate a one sided chase ?

If ladies want to be chased by desperate sycophantic men who perform more like a circus animal than a sentient interesting man, then indeed they will find a fist full however many ladies from the forum seem greatly more discerning and rarely appreciate a pretty performing seal?

X

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By *mmabluTV/TS  over a year ago

upton wirral


"How does the saying go... if you have to force it it’s probably shit? Keep that in mind"

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

As soon as it’s an effort move on, she’s not interested. Don’t jump through hoops for them.

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By *omesticated_VixenWoman  over a year ago

sw London

It depends on what the message says, sometimes you can only answer with a one or two word answer. Others you can put more into.

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By *acavityMan  over a year ago

Redditch

some people are hard work.

I have had fantasy conversations where the other person would only give very passive answers, such as "that's nice" "what then?"

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By *SAchickWoman  over a year ago

Hillside desolate


"some people are hard work.

I have had fantasy conversations where the other person would only give very passive answers, such as "that's nice" "what then?"

"

Or the classic "mmmmmmmm"

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'm just putting my point across that it's not always us men that's at fault for not making the effort you women need to look at yourself and stop been so stuck up thinking everybody owes you something "

They spoil it for us decent women.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Women are lazy anyway.

They wait for you.to make the first move even when they like you

They're bthe cheapest creatures around, expecting you to pay for everything yet in the same always going on about how they don't need a man, independent and got their money but at the dinner table, their socialists.

I don't care if you say my chances of getting a meet go down. Only proves my point, your only selling point is your pussy, one that depreciates with age and every pump.

Oh wow I don’t even know where to start with you "

Not even worthy of an response

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"If you started the conversation why do they need to make the effort?

That is a stupid comment !

I'm a reasonably intelligent , reasonably articulate , reasonably attractive , reasonably attentive and competent at engaging in pleasurable sexual encounters

Read reasonable as being modest

And my standards will not lower to a woman expecting a performing dog

Now general rule of fab is women oddly think they need not message as out of the 300 messages they receive there will be occasionally a man they find attractive and would WANT to become intimate with

At that point the power switches from the woman to an equal status

Even if messaged by the man first IF the man is desirable with desirable human attributes , physical and personality , he deserves and is worthy of mutual respect and mutual seduction

I send a first message to give a lady an opportunity to discover more and if she is tempted by my profile an opportunity to persuade me that I want to meet her too

It is beyond me why so many seem to think that their ideal match would be sycophantic with so little self respect that if would tolerate a one sided chase ?

If ladies want to be chased by desperate sycophantic men who perform more like a circus animal than a sentient interesting man, then indeed they will find a fist full however many ladies from the forum seem greatly more discerning and rarely appreciate a pretty performing seal?

X"

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Meh. When it feels right, effort doesn't seem like effort. When it doesn't it becomes a chore. The equation goes both ways."

Here here.. I bet that pic of you tied up was no effort at all

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By *ilNdoCouple  over a year ago

Liverpool

Some couples are the same & they make the initial contact and no pics seen, still it's painful!!!

Ive concluded some people are just dull!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Some couples are the same & they make the initial contact and no pics seen, still it's painful!!!

Ive concluded some people are just dull!! "

Oh fuck me yeah, the ones that think you should bow down before them cause they sent you a wink!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Some couples are the same & they make the initial contact and no pics seen, still it's painful!!!

Ive concluded some people are just dull!! "

Not some. I'd argue quite a lot

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Honestly I can not believe that us guys are always getting told to put more effort into theses messages. The last 3 women I have got intouch with I'd get more conversation out of a brick 1 or 2 word answers. Come on lady's start putting the effort in "

A pp would help

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"If you started the conversation why do they need to make the effort?

That is a stupid comment !

I'm a reasonably intelligent , reasonably articulate , reasonably attractive , reasonably attentive and competent at engaging in pleasurable sexual encounters

Read reasonable as being modest

And my standards will not lower to a woman expecting a performing dog

Now general rule of fab is women oddly think they need not message as out of the 300 messages they receive there will be occasionally a man they find attractive and would WANT to become intimate with

At that point the power switches from the woman to an equal status

Even if messaged by the man first IF the man is desirable with desirable human attributes , physical and personality , he deserves and is worthy of mutual respect and mutual seduction

I send a first message to give a lady an opportunity to discover more and if she is tempted by my profile an opportunity to persuade me that I want to meet her too

It is beyond me why so many seem to think that their ideal match would be sycophantic with so little self respect that if would tolerate a one sided chase ?

If ladies want to be chased by desperate sycophantic men who perform more like a circus animal than a sentient interesting man, then indeed they will find a fist full however many ladies from the forum seem greatly more discerning and rarely appreciate a pretty performing seal?

X"

And that takes us back to my original post a few days ago that women have all the power on this site

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'm just putting my point across that it's not always us men that's at fault for not making the effort you women need to look at yourself and stop been so stuck up thinking everybody owes you something

They spoil it for us decent women. "

Genuine women.

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By *hetalkingstoveMan  over a year ago

London


"

And that takes us back to my original post a few days ago that women have all the power on this site "

Who the fuck cares? These endless topics about how Fabs isn't fair are just sad to read.

Message who you want, chat to who you want, enjoy the meets you get. Don't get bitter about the way other people behave.

And don't make Fabs the sole focus of your sex life.

Worrying about who has the power and what that says about men and women is completely pointless and self defeating.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"If you started the conversation why do they need to make the effort?

That is a stupid comment !

I'm a reasonably intelligent , reasonably articulate , reasonably attractive , reasonably attentive and competent at engaging in pleasurable sexual encounters

Read reasonable as being modest

And my standards will not lower to a woman expecting a performing dog

Now general rule of fab is women oddly think they need not message as out of the 300 messages they receive there will be occasionally a man they find attractive and would WANT to become intimate with

At that point the power switches from the woman to an equal status

Even if messaged by the man first IF the man is desirable with desirable human attributes , physical and personality , he deserves and is worthy of mutual respect and mutual seduction

I send a first message to give a lady an opportunity to discover more and if she is tempted by my profile an opportunity to persuade me that I want to meet her too

It is beyond me why so many seem to think that their ideal match would be sycophantic with so little self respect that if would tolerate a one sided chase ?

If ladies want to be chased by desperate sycophantic men who perform more like a circus animal than a sentient interesting man, then indeed they will find a fist full however many ladies from the forum seem greatly more discerning and rarely appreciate a pretty performing seal?

X

And that takes us back to my original post a few days ago that women have all the power on this site "

Only if the men let them.

If the men all stopped mailing them ... carnage.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

And that takes us back to my original post a few days ago that women have all the power on this site

Who the fuck cares? These endless topics about how Fabs isn't fair are just sad to read.

Message who you want, chat to who you want, enjoy the meets you get. Don't get bitter about the way other people behave.

And don't make Fabs the sole focus of your sex life.

Worrying about who has the power and what that says about men and women is completely pointless and self defeating."

You're quite interesting to read...for a stove.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"If you started the conversation why do they need to make the effort?

That is a stupid comment !

I'm a reasonably intelligent , reasonably articulate , reasonably attractive , reasonably attentive and competent at engaging in pleasurable sexual encounters

Read reasonable as being modest

And my standards will not lower to a woman expecting a performing dog

Now general rule of fab is women oddly think they need not message as out of the 300 messages they receive there will be occasionally a man they find attractive and would WANT to become intimate with

At that point the power switches from the woman to an equal status

Even if messaged by the man first IF the man is desirable with desirable human attributes , physical and personality , he deserves and is worthy of mutual respect and mutual seduction

I send a first message to give a lady an opportunity to discover more and if she is tempted by my profile an opportunity to persuade me that I want to meet her too

It is beyond me why so many seem to think that their ideal match would be sycophantic with so little self respect that if would tolerate a one sided chase ?

If ladies want to be chased by desperate sycophantic men who perform more like a circus animal than a sentient interesting man, then indeed they will find a fist full however many ladies from the forum seem greatly more discerning and rarely appreciate a pretty performing seal?

X

And that takes us back to my original post a few days ago that women have all the power on this site

Only if the men let them.

If the men all stopped mailing them ... carnage. "

They wouldn't be able to start threads moaning about all the mail they have to delete unread.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"If you started the conversation why do they need to make the effort?

That is a stupid comment !

I'm a reasonably intelligent , reasonably articulate , reasonably attractive , reasonably attentive and competent at engaging in pleasurable sexual encounters

Read reasonable as being modest

And my standards will not lower to a woman expecting a performing dog

Now general rule of fab is women oddly think they need not message as out of the 300 messages they receive there will be occasionally a man they find attractive and would WANT to become intimate with

At that point the power switches from the woman to an equal status

Even if messaged by the man first IF the man is desirable with desirable human attributes , physical and personality , he deserves and is worthy of mutual respect and mutual seduction

I send a first message to give a lady an opportunity to discover more and if she is tempted by my profile an opportunity to persuade me that I want to meet her too

It is beyond me why so many seem to think that their ideal match would be sycophantic with so little self respect that if would tolerate a one sided chase ?

If ladies want to be chased by desperate sycophantic men who perform more like a circus animal than a sentient interesting man, then indeed they will find a fist full however many ladies from the forum seem greatly more discerning and rarely appreciate a pretty performing seal?

X

And that takes us back to my original post a few days ago that women have all the power on this site

Only if the men let them.

If the men all stopped mailing them ... carnage.

They wouldn't be able to start threads moaning about all the mail they have to delete unread. "

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By *ensualtouch15Man  over a year ago

ashby de la zouch


"If you started the conversation why do they need to make the effort?

That is a stupid comment !

I'm a reasonably intelligent , reasonably articulate , reasonably attractive , reasonably attentive and competent at engaging in pleasurable sexual encounters

Read reasonable as being modest

And my standards will not lower to a woman expecting a performing dog

Now general rule of fab is women oddly think they need not message as out of the 300 messages they receive there will be occasionally a man they find attractive and would WANT to become intimate with

At that point the power switches from the woman to an equal status

Even if messaged by the man first IF the man is desirable with desirable human attributes , physical and personality , he deserves and is worthy of mutual respect and mutual seduction

I send a first message to give a lady an opportunity to discover more and if she is tempted by my profile an opportunity to persuade me that I want to meet her too

It is beyond me why so many seem to think that their ideal match would be sycophantic with so little self respect that if would tolerate a one sided chase ?

If ladies want to be chased by desperate sycophantic men who perform more like a circus animal than a sentient interesting man, then indeed they will find a fist full however many ladies from the forum seem greatly more discerning and rarely appreciate a pretty performing seal?

X

And that takes us back to my original post a few days ago that women have all the power on this site "

That's daft too ?

My post illustrate that they do not !!

They only have power over the weak minded and performing seals! If YOU think they have the power then .... logically

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I have to add that I agree to some point.

I've had several messages that simply say "Face and cock pic.." or some variant.

When you check their profile they are the same women that request, nay, DEMAND, that a guys opening message is original and interesting.

There is double standards at work, this point cannot be refuted in any way.

But it's not all women. Same as not all men are cock wombles.

The sheer fact that the supply and demand regarding women and males on here means that women can afford to be this brutal.

We either suck it up, don't take it personally or we're in the wrong place.

And P.S. The women who have messaged me with one word messages and requests have politely been told that we will not be compatible.

I may be one guy in a tiny pond of eligible women, but I know my worth.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Well said buddy ! Well said ! "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Well I've been lucky enough to have a 2 hour conversation... Lol lucky me

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I have to add that I agree to some point.

I've had several messages that simply say "Face and cock pic.." or some variant.

When you check their profile they are the same women that request, nay, DEMAND, that a guys opening message is original and interesting.

There is double standards at work, this point cannot be refuted in any way.

But it's not all women. Same as not all men are cock wombles.

The sheer fact that the supply and demand regarding women and males on here means that women can afford to be this brutal.

We either suck it up, don't take it personally or we're in the wrong place.

And P.S. The women who have messaged me with one word messages and requests have politely been told that we will not be compatible.

I may be one guy in a tiny pond of eligible women, but I know my worth. "

Good for you!

Do you ever ask them to go read their own profile and explain their hypocrisy?

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By *emini ManMan  over a year ago

There and to the left a bit


"

And that takes us back to my original post a few days ago that women have all the power on this site

Who the fuck cares? These endless topics about how Fabs isn't fair are just sad to read.

Message who you want, chat to who you want, enjoy the meets you get. Don't get bitter about the way other people behave.

And don't make Fabs the sole focus of your sex life.

Worrying about who has the power and what that says about men and women is completely pointless and self defeating."

Couldn't agree more

Unfortunately there are those that will always look to blame others or find reasons (where none are needed) for all manner of things not going their way on here.

To the OPs point, why does it matter if someone isn't answering the way he wants? It's got nothing to do with lack of effort or anything other than that person just not being a match, simple as!!

If someone's "perception" is that someone else is expecting them to jump through hoops, then don't fucking jump through them and accept that person is not for you - don't bleat about it or look to blame them!!

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By *ilNdoCouple  over a year ago

Liverpool


"Well I've been lucky enough to have a 2 hour conversation... Lol lucky me "

Show off

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Lol its a first in 6 months

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I have to add that I agree to some point.

I've had several messages that simply say "Face and cock pic.." or some variant.

When you check their profile they are the same women that request, nay, DEMAND, that a guys opening message is original and interesting.

There is double standards at work, this point cannot be refuted in any way.

But it's not all women. Same as not all men are cock wombles.

The sheer fact that the supply and demand regarding women and males on here means that women can afford to be this brutal.

We either suck it up, don't take it personally or we're in the wrong place.

And P.S. The women who have messaged me with one word messages and requests have politely been told that we will not be compatible.

I may be one guy in a tiny pond of eligible women, but I know my worth.

Good for you!

Do you ever ask them to go read their own profile and explain their hypocrisy? "

No. That's not my place to tell them anything.

I just get on with my own business.

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By *hatYorkLadMan  over a year ago

York

I often see the "make your message stand out, be original" line in profiles, and whilst I wouldn't expect a reply to just "Hi", I dont know what kind of witty, creative and fantastic first message they are expecting from a stranger who knows nothing about them other than a few pics and a shopping list of demands.

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By *ilNdoCouple  over a year ago

Liverpool


"Some couples are the same & they make the initial contact and no pics seen, still it's painful!!!

Ive concluded some people are just dull!!

Oh fuck me yeah, the ones that think you should bow down before them cause they sent you a wink! "

Yep came across them too!

I see it as, if u can't make an effort talking yr probably a shit shag!! Ha

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I often see the "make your message stand out, be original" line in profiles, and whilst I wouldn't expect a reply to just "Hi", I dont know what kind of witty, creative and fantastic first message they are expecting from a stranger who knows nothing about them other than a few pics and a shopping list of demands. "

Lower your expectations - Increase happiness.

People don't always respond as you'd like them too. Realise that we are all individuals and all converse with different degrees of gusto and it's all gravy.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Honestly I can not believe that us guys are always getting told to put more effort into theses messages. The last 3 women I have got intouch with I'd get more conversation out of a brick 1 or 2 word answers. Come on lady's start putting the effort in "

Sorry buddy i cant help you i cant speak to people im far too shy

My guess is there not overly interested but willing to give you a shot

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By *tingly ByronMan  over a year ago

In a town Fab forgot


"Women are lazy anyway.

They wait for you.to make the first move even when they like you

They're bthe cheapest creatures around, expecting you to pay for everything yet in the same always going on about how they don't need a man, independent and got their money but at the dinner table, their socialists.

I don't care if you say my chances of getting a meet go down. Only proves my point, your only selling point is your pussy, one that depreciates with age and every pump."

Don't beat around the bush, tell us what you really mean, you scrumptious fanny magnet you.....

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By *hubaysiWoman  over a year ago

Leeds


"LOL and the chances of you getting any replies have dropped to 0.000009% after this post to be honest I couldn't give a shit. I attend parties and get enough there. But it's becoming a joke always the man's fault because for some reason only on here women are the chief judge and executioner "

You’ll always find him in the kitchen at parties tra la la...

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By *rincess peachWoman  over a year ago

shits creek


"Honestly I can not believe that us guys are always getting told to put more effort into theses messages. The last 3 women I have got intouch with I'd get more conversation out of a brick 1 or 2 word answers. Come on lady's start putting the effort in "

Maybe they're putting as much effort into their responses as you have creating your profile. Effort in = reward out.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Some couples are the same & they make the initial contact and no pics seen, still it's painful!!!

Ive concluded some people are just dull!!

Oh fuck me yeah, the ones that think you should bow down before them cause they sent you a wink!

Yep came across them too!

I see it as, if u can't make an effort talking yr probably a shit shag!! Ha "

I'm a really lazy typer.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"There will always be someone making excuses for women not putting any effort in. It will always be the man's fault.

We have the power you know; we can do no wrong. "

This with big massive bells on it!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Honestly I can not believe that us guys are always getting told to put more effort into theses messages. The last 3 women I have got intouch with I'd get more conversation out of a brick 1 or 2 word answers. Come on lady's start putting the effort in

Maybe they're putting as much effort into their responses as you have creating your profile. Effort in = reward out.

"

True dat!

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By *emini ManMan  over a year ago

There and to the left a bit


"Honestly I can not believe that us guys are always getting told to put more effort into theses messages. The last 3 women I have got intouch with I'd get more conversation out of a brick 1 or 2 word answers. Come on lady's start putting the effort in

Maybe they're putting as much effort into their responses as you have creating your profile. Effort in = reward out.

"

You're baaaaaaaddd!!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Honestly I can not believe that us guys are always getting told to put more effort into theses messages. The last 3 women I have got intouch with I'd get more conversation out of a brick 1 or 2 word answers. Come on lady's start putting the effort in

Maybe they're putting as much effort into their responses as you have creating your profile. Effort in = reward out.

"

He's having a conversation with them and making an effort in doing so. Are you suggesting they read his profile and decided to send one word replies? Wouldn't they just ignore or delete the message without responding?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

This will probably be an unpopular answer but I’m not worried lol...I find (mrs) a lot of women on here have these huge egos and quite often huge arrogance to go with it purely because they are in the minority so undoubtedly get a lot of attention on here, people that we wouldn’t even notice if we were to walk past them in the normal world, are very often rude, demanding and quite often fake lol, fab goes straight to their heads, and it baffles me as to why, personalities can make someone so much uglier than any face can

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By *hatYorkLadMan  over a year ago

York


"I often see the "make your message stand out, be original" line in profiles, and whilst I wouldn't expect a reply to just "Hi", I dont know what kind of witty, creative and fantastic first message they are expecting from a stranger who knows nothing about them other than a few pics and a shopping list of demands.

Lower your expectations - Increase happiness.

People don't always respond as you'd like them too. Realise that we are all individuals and all converse with different degrees of gusto and it's all gravy. "

To be honest I'm not even that bothered, it's more an observation than something I'd get wound up over. I'm lucky enough that in the real world I get far more offers from the calibre of women who would just delete my messages without even reading them on here.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Honestly I can not believe that us guys are always getting told to put more effort into theses messages. The last 3 women I have got intouch with I'd get more conversation out of a brick 1 or 2 word answers. Come on lady's start putting the effort in

Maybe they're putting as much effort into their responses as you have creating your profile. Effort in = reward out.

He's having a conversation with them and making an effort in doing so. Are you suggesting they read his profile and decided to send one word replies? Wouldn't they just ignore or delete the message without responding?"

There is this.

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By *rincess peachWoman  over a year ago

shits creek


"Honestly I can not believe that us guys are always getting told to put more effort into theses messages. The last 3 women I have got intouch with I'd get more conversation out of a brick 1 or 2 word answers. Come on lady's start putting the effort in

Maybe they're putting as much effort into their responses as you have creating your profile. Effort in = reward out.

He's having a conversation with them and making an effort in doing so. Are you suggesting they read his profile and decided to send one word replies? Wouldn't they just ignore or delete the message without responding?"

Is it a conversation though, or just polite responses?

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By *emini ManMan  over a year ago

There and to the left a bit


"There will always be someone making excuses for women not putting any effort in. It will always be the man's fault.

We have the power you know; we can do no wrong. "

Thing is it's often no-one's fault - it's just lack of compatibility. Unfortunately though there are those that feel the need to try and blame someone else because they can't accept the blindingly obvious.

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By *ollymollWoman  over a year ago

Stockport

Some people just aren’t very good at online conversations.

They may be much more interesting face to face.

I suppose you just have to make a decision whether it’s worth having less interesting online messages in case they’re really actually fun people when you get to meet them.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Women are terrible conversation starters. All the ones who have messaged me first usually just say “face pic?” Or some variation of that

Send them a message back saying yes please, I'd like to see if I fancy you before I spend any energy talking to you. "

Haha great reply that ..I'm using that!

Some women on here think they are in charge and make you feel like you should be privileged that they replied...once I feel like that it's s thanks but no thanks I don't do big heads

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I actually don’t know how you can not reply to someone, I’d feel a bit of a cunt, if someone’s put in an effort with the message. Also even if I’m not interested in that person I’d still be polite, but hey that’s just me.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Women are lazy anyway.

They wait for you.to make the first move even when they like you

They're bthe cheapest creatures around, expecting you to pay for everything yet in the same always going on about how they don't need a man, independent and got their money but at the dinner table, their socialists.

I don't care if you say my chances of getting a meet go down. Only proves my point, your only selling point is your pussy, one that depreciates with age and every pump.

Oh wow I don’t even know where to start with you

Mr fantastic wonder living up to his username

The mind boggles

Go for it.

Refute my claims and don't use emotion

I don't feed trolls. Back under the bridge with you "

So yes, all.becuase I have a different opinion. Makes me a troll. A troll is someone who does not have a horse in the race and is only commenting to get a reaction. I'm not tolling thus I have a horse in the race.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Well I've been lucky enough to have a 2 hour conversation... Lol lucky me "

It was probably a man pretending

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Women are terrible conversation starters. All the ones who have messaged me first usually just say “face pic?” Or some variation of that

Send them a message back saying yes please, I'd like to see if I fancy you before I spend any energy talking to you.

Haha great reply that ..I'm using that!

Some women on here think they are in charge and make you feel like you should be privileged that they replied...once I feel like that it's s thanks but no thanks I don't do big heads "

I was chatting to one bird, she not here. We going good until she said I should feel honoured by Interest as she is very picky with guys.

Turned me right off and walked away. Bitch making it sound like she's doing me a favour.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Think of it as your lucky to receive a reply at all it's not easy being a single fem inundated with messages....i know some ladies bulk delete if not interested and that's their choice...I've always said I'd reply to all even if I'm not interested however that's impossible lol

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Single females are able to be fussier and don't need to put any effort in.. ( well at least they feel they don't need to )

They can easily move onto the next message and arrange a meet, unfortunately for single guys ( and couples looking for that unicorn ) you/we have to stand out and show we are worth their time... Fir us it easily could be weeks or months before. We get chatting properly again... Fir her.. a matter of mins if not seconds...

"

in all honastly guys in almost every aspect of nature the art of seduction plus attraction is key to securing a good old ride... Hate to burst your bubble gents but nature hasn't changed since it began or won't anytime soon

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"This will probably be an unpopular answer but I’m not worried lol...I find (mrs) a lot of women on here have these huge egos and quite often huge arrogance to go with it purely because they are in the minority so undoubtedly get a lot of attention on here, people that we wouldn’t even notice if we were to walk past them in the normal world, are very often rude, demanding and quite often fake lol, fab goes straight to their heads, and it baffles me as to why, personalities can make someone so much uglier than any face can "

You have so hit the nail on the head here especially the below part

"people that we wouldn’t even notice if we were to walk past them in the normal world, are very often rude, demanding and quite often fake lol, fab goes straight to their heads"

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I actually don’t know how you can not reply to someone, I’d feel a bit of a cunt, if someone’s put in an effort with the message. Also even if I’m not interested in that person I’d still be polite, but hey that’s just me. "

I've had a lady show me how many unread messages she's got waiting to be answered.

I wouldn't reply to that many.

I'm happy with my 1 or 2 a week.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS  over a year ago

Central

It's good to ask questions but open questions don't usually get such one word answers.

It could be useful to share more about you too, in excess of what is on your profile.

It may seem obvious why you are messaging to you bit the recipients may still need to be sold on you as someone to be interested in. Otherwise it potentially stays as one sided interest.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Women are terrible conversation starters. All the ones who have messaged me first usually just say “face pic?” Or some variation of that

Send them a message back saying yes please, I'd like to see if I fancy you before I spend any energy talking to you.

Haha great reply that ..I'm using that!

Some women on here think they are in charge and make you feel like you should be privileged that they replied...once I feel like that it's s thanks but no thanks I don't do big heads

I was chatting to one bird, she not here. We going good until she said I should feel honoured by Interest as she is very picky with guys.

Turned me right off and walked away. Bitch making it sound like she's doing me a favour."

Haha don't blame you pal I would of done exactly the same

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I actually don’t know how you can not reply to someone, I’d feel a bit of a cunt, if someone’s put in an effort with the message. Also even if I’m not interested in that person I’d still be polite, but hey that’s just me. "

I'm quite alright with that. Must be a cunt then. There are literally hundreds I've never replied to. Can you tell them I'm not interested? Thanks. I'm sure they'll be much happier.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"This will probably be an unpopular answer but I’m not worried lol...I find (mrs) a lot of women on here have these huge egos and quite often huge arrogance to go with it purely because they are in the minority so undoubtedly get a lot of attention on here, people that we wouldn’t even notice if we were to walk past them in the normal world, are very often rude, demanding and quite often fake lol, fab goes straight to their heads, and it baffles me as to why, personalities can make someone so much uglier than any face can

You have so hit the nail on the head here especially the below part

"people that we wouldn’t even notice if we were to walk past them in the normal world, are very often rude, demanding and quite often fake lol, fab goes straight to their heads""

On the flip side, it seems to turn others into bitter, snivelling bitches. I wonder who you blame in a pub or other real life scenario when you can’t find anyone to fuck you.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"This will probably be an unpopular answer but I’m not worried lol...I find (mrs) a lot of women on here have these huge egos and quite often huge arrogance to go with it purely because they are in the minority so undoubtedly get a lot of attention on here, people that we wouldn’t even notice if we were to walk past them in the normal world, are very often rude, demanding and quite often fake lol, fab goes straight to their heads, and it baffles me as to why, personalities can make someone so much uglier than any face can

You have so hit the nail on the head here especially the below part

"people that we wouldn’t even notice if we were to walk past them in the normal world, are very often rude, demanding and quite often fake lol, fab goes straight to their heads"

On the flip side, it seems to turn others into bitter, snivelling bitches. I wonder who you blame in a pub or other real life scenario when you can’t find anyone to fuck you."

Hahaha...ohh I can assure you, I’m never short of offers, I am far from bitter, quite the opposite, you’ll find it’s me that says no ...what was I just saying about personalities??? Lol

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"This will probably be an unpopular answer but I’m not worried lol...I find (mrs) a lot of women on here have these huge egos and quite often huge arrogance to go with it purely because they are in the minority so undoubtedly get a lot of attention on here, people that we wouldn’t even notice if we were to walk past them in the normal world, are very often rude, demanding and quite often fake lol, fab goes straight to their heads, and it baffles me as to why, personalities can make someone so much uglier than any face can

You have so hit the nail on the head here especially the below part

"people that we wouldn’t even notice if we were to walk past them in the normal world, are very often rude, demanding and quite often fake lol, fab goes straight to their heads""

That's why women don't respond. They know they will be normally ignored. We ain't fucking stupid.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"This will probably be an unpopular answer but I’m not worried lol...I find (mrs) a lot of women on here have these huge egos and quite often huge arrogance to go with it purely because they are in the minority so undoubtedly get a lot of attention on here, people that we wouldn’t even notice if we were to walk past them in the normal world, are very often rude, demanding and quite often fake lol, fab goes straight to their heads, and it baffles me as to why, personalities can make someone so much uglier than any face can

You have so hit the nail on the head here especially the below part

"people that we wouldn’t even notice if we were to walk past them in the normal world, are very often rude, demanding and quite often fake lol, fab goes straight to their heads"

That's why women don't respond. They know they will be normally ignored. We ain't fucking stupid.

"

We don't wanna be someone's last resort!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"This will probably be an unpopular answer but I’m not worried lol...I find (mrs) a lot of women on here have these huge egos and quite often huge arrogance to go with it purely because they are in the minority so undoubtedly get a lot of attention on here, people that we wouldn’t even notice if we were to walk past them in the normal world, are very often rude, demanding and quite often fake lol, fab goes straight to their heads, and it baffles me as to why, personalities can make someone so much uglier than any face can

You have so hit the nail on the head here especially the below part

"people that we wouldn’t even notice if we were to walk past them in the normal world, are very often rude, demanding and quite often fake lol, fab goes straight to their heads"

That's why women don't respond. They know they will be normally ignored. We ain't fucking stupid.

We don't wanna be someone's last resort!"

If you jump to that conclusion that that’s your own demons I guess

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"This will probably be an unpopular answer but I’m not worried lol...I find (mrs) a lot of women on here have these huge egos and quite often huge arrogance to go with it purely because they are in the minority so undoubtedly get a lot of attention on here, people that we wouldn’t even notice if we were to walk past them in the normal world, are very often rude, demanding and quite often fake lol, fab goes straight to their heads, and it baffles me as to why, personalities can make someone so much uglier than any face can

You have so hit the nail on the head here especially the below part

"people that we wouldn’t even notice if we were to walk past them in the normal world, are very often rude, demanding and quite often fake lol, fab goes straight to their heads"

On the flip side, it seems to turn others into bitter, snivelling bitches. I wonder who you blame in a pub or other real life scenario when you can’t find anyone to fuck you.

Hahaha...ohh I can assure you, I’m never short of offers, I am far from bitter, quite the opposite, you’ll find it’s me that says no ...what was I just saying about personalities??? Lol"

Who dealt you in? Thanks for your input though...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Well this escalated quickly.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I think the responses from the women (except me, lol) only go to further confirm the topic of the post...it’s ok though, my self worth doesn’t come from a swinging site, although by the response from other females I think it’s safe to say they do shame

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"This will probably be an unpopular answer but I’m not worried lol...I find (mrs) a lot of women on here have these huge egos and quite often huge arrogance to go with it purely because they are in the minority so undoubtedly get a lot of attention on here, people that we wouldn’t even notice if we were to walk past them in the normal world, are very often rude, demanding and quite often fake lol, fab goes straight to their heads, and it baffles me as to why, personalities can make someone so much uglier than any face can

You have so hit the nail on the head here especially the below part

"people that we wouldn’t even notice if we were to walk past them in the normal world, are very often rude, demanding and quite often fake lol, fab goes straight to their heads"

On the flip side, it seems to turn others into bitter, snivelling bitches. I wonder who you blame in a pub or other real life scenario when you can’t find anyone to fuck you.

Hahaha...ohh I can assure you, I’m never short of offers, I am far from bitter, quite the opposite, you’ll find it’s me that says no ...what was I just saying about personalities??? Lol

Who dealt you in? Thanks for your input though..."

Dealt me in...you quoted a response from me...are you able to see that? Not that I need an invite seen as though it’s my message that was responded too...I must admit, I’m more than amused ha

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"This will probably be an unpopular answer but I’m not worried lol...I find (mrs) a lot of women on here have these huge egos and quite often huge arrogance to go with it purely because they are in the minority so undoubtedly get a lot of attention on here, people that we wouldn’t even notice if we were to walk past them in the normal world, are very often rude, demanding and quite often fake lol, fab goes straight to their heads, and it baffles me as to why, personalities can make someone so much uglier than any face can

You have so hit the nail on the head here especially the below part

"people that we wouldn’t even notice if we were to walk past them in the normal world, are very often rude, demanding and quite often fake lol, fab goes straight to their heads"

That's why women don't respond. They know they will be normally ignored. We ain't fucking stupid.

We don't wanna be someone's last resort!

If you jump to that conclusion that that’s your own demons I guess "

Ha ha ha. Just responding to an idiotic post with an equal response. I can't say I've ever actually had that thought.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I think the responses from the women (except me, lol) only go to further confirm the topic of the post...it’s ok though, my self worth doesn’t come from a swinging site, although by the response from other females I think it’s safe to say they do shame "

Oooh you are far above us mere mortal women. We look to you for guidance.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"This will probably be an unpopular answer but I’m not worried lol...I find (mrs) a lot of women on here have these huge egos and quite often huge arrogance to go with it purely because they are in the minority so undoubtedly get a lot of attention on here, people that we wouldn’t even notice if we were to walk past them in the normal world, are very often rude, demanding and quite often fake lol, fab goes straight to their heads, and it baffles me as to why, personalities can make someone so much uglier than any face can

You have so hit the nail on the head here especially the below part

"people that we wouldn’t even notice if we were to walk past them in the normal world, are very often rude, demanding and quite often fake lol, fab goes straight to their heads"

That's why women don't respond. They know they will be normally ignored. We ain't fucking stupid.

We don't wanna be someone's last resort!

If you jump to that conclusion that that’s your own demons I guess

Ha ha ha. Just responding to an idiotic post with an equal response. I can't say I've ever actually had that thought. "

Ohh I see, because you don’t agree it’s idiotic....thanks I’m making notes of how to form my future opinions thank you

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I think the responses from the women (except me, lol) only go to further confirm the topic of the post...it’s ok though, my self worth doesn’t come from a swinging site, although by the response from other females I think it’s safe to say they do shame

Oooh you are far above us mere mortal women. We look to you for guidance. "

Happy to help

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

In a different league being a couple but from observation I can say that women here are given multiple times the sexual attention they receive socially and most of them dont have the capacity to cope with it rationally, hence the bitter behavior.

It takes 10 times the sffort here for a guy than in a bar in most cases.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"In a different league being a couple but from observation I can say that women here are given multiple times the sexual attention they receive socially and most of them dont have the capacity to cope with it rationally, hence the bitter behavior.

It takes 10 times the sffort here for a guy than in a bar in most cases."

Well said and nice pics too

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By *bsolutebeginnersCouple  over a year ago

Planet Ork


"I have to add that I agree to some point.

I've had several messages that simply say "Face and cock pic.." or some variant. "

We prefer face and cake pic

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"This will probably be an unpopular answer but I’m not worried lol...I find (mrs) a lot of women on here have these huge egos and quite often huge arrogance to go with it purely because they are in the minority so undoubtedly get a lot of attention on here, people that we wouldn’t even notice if we were to walk past them in the normal world, are very often rude, demanding and quite often fake lol, fab goes straight to their heads, and it baffles me as to why, personalities can make someone so much uglier than any face can

You have so hit the nail on the head here especially the below part

"people that we wouldn’t even notice if we were to walk past them in the normal world, are very often rude, demanding and quite often fake lol, fab goes straight to their heads"

On the flip side, it seems to turn others into bitter, snivelling bitches. I wonder who you blame in a pub or other real life scenario when you can’t find anyone to fuck you."

This might possibly be aimed at me after I agreed to the message and replied....if it is aimed at me then fine I can take it I'm not bitter at all and regarding real life I don't go out looking for a fuck I go out with friends for a great night and a laugh if there's a chance of a fuck then great but I'm quite shy so I don't actively go out looking for it...if I see a girl looking at me I won't act on it most of the time due to my shyness and most of the time thinking to myself she can't be looking at me she's too good for me...I've probably missed out on a lot of sex due to this stumbling block and putting myself down...so the only blame I have is on myself

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"In a different league being a couple but from observation I can say that women here are given multiple times the sexual attention they receive socially and most of them dont have the capacity to cope with it rationally, hence the bitter behavior.

It takes 10 times the sffort here for a guy than in a bar in most cases.

Well said and nice pics too "

I echo that and agree about the pics x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"This will probably be an unpopular answer but I’m not worried lol...I find (mrs) a lot of women on here have these huge egos and quite often huge arrogance to go with it purely because they are in the minority so undoubtedly get a lot of attention on here, people that we wouldn’t even notice if we were to walk past them in the normal world, are very often rude, demanding and quite often fake lol, fab goes straight to their heads, and it baffles me as to why, personalities can make someone so much uglier than any face can "

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By *eal_curves_is_backWoman  over a year ago

London


"Women are lazy anyway.

They wait for you.to make the first move even when they like you

They're bthe cheapest creatures around, expecting you to pay for everything yet in the same always going on about how they don't need a man, independent and got their money but at the dinner table, their socialists.

I don't care if you say my chances of getting a meet go down. Only proves my point, your only selling point is your pussy, one that depreciates with age and every pump."

How interesting.

I always pay for the hotel when going out. I buy the man drinks if we are on friendly enough terms. I chip in for petrol or pay for taxis. I have lent men money. Some of it is still owed back.

Not sure what has depreciated as no part of my body has ever had a price put on it or ever will. The only thing I do sell is the power of my brain, which seems to still be paying my bills.

It does not stop me appreciating being treated the way I deserve as a woman and a lady. Why should we deny ourselves that?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I now remember why I stopped coming on here

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By *eal_curves_is_backWoman  over a year ago

London


"Women are terrible conversation starters. All the ones who have messaged me first usually just say “face pic?” Or some variation of that

Send them a message back saying yes please, I'd like to see if I fancy you before I spend any energy talking to you.

Haha great reply that ..I'm using that!

Some women on here think they are in charge and make you feel like you should be privileged that they replied...once I feel like that it's s thanks but no thanks I don't do big heads

I was chatting to one bird, she not here. We going good until she said I should feel honoured by Interest as she is very picky with guys.

Turned me right off and walked away. Bitch making it sound like she's doing me a favour."

Not meaning to follow you around the thread, but wasn't this a joke? No one will say "you should be honoured by my interest" with a straight face. Ever heard of irony?

Some women happen to be selective. You should not be honoured but maybe a bit pleased with yourself if they choose you. How is that a bad thing? If you don't like her, fine, just be honest and tell her that. No need to insult her.

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By *iverpool LoverMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"If you started the conversation why do they need to make the effort?

That is a stupid comment !

I'm a reasonably intelligent , reasonably articulate , reasonably attractive , reasonably attentive and competent at engaging in pleasurable sexual encounters

Read reasonable as being modest

And my standards will not lower to a woman expecting a performing dog

Now general rule of fab is women oddly think they need not message as out of the 300 messages they receive there will be occasionally a man they find attractive and would WANT to become intimate with

At that point the power switches from the woman to an equal status

Even if messaged by the man first IF the man is desirable with desirable human attributes , physical and personality , he deserves and is worthy of mutual respect and mutual seduction

I send a first message to give a lady an opportunity to discover more and if she is tempted by my profile an opportunity to persuade me that I want to meet her too

It is beyond me why so many seem to think that their ideal match would be sycophantic with so little self respect that if would tolerate a one sided chase ?

If ladies want to be chased by desperate sycophantic men who perform more like a circus animal than a sentient interesting man, then indeed they will find a fist full however many ladies from the forum seem greatly more discerning and rarely appreciate a pretty performing seal?

X"

I like this guy

Very well put my friend.

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By *iss.ddWoman  over a year ago

Leeds + Newcastle

There's so many sad songs being played on tiny violins in here

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By *gnitemybodyWoman  over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor

You men are so demanding,first you're moaning about not getting an answer then when women do you still moan. Just be bloody grateful.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Arguing with strangers about shit that doesn’t matter on the interweb, what a time to be alive!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

The sun is shining and we're all alive ... So grumblers, chill please and smile

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By *sGivesWoodWoman  over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL

Even more reason to delete unread now lol

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Even more reason to delete unread now lol"

I’m trying to put the cat on my profile, but I can only draw squirrels, is that okay ?

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By *ablo minibar123Woman  over a year ago

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"

And that takes us back to my original post a few days ago that women have all the power on this site

Who the fuck cares? These endless topics about how Fabs isn't fair are just sad to read.

Message who you want, chat to who you want, enjoy the meets you get. Don't get bitter about the way other people behave.

And don't make Fabs the sole focus of your sex life.

Worrying about who has the power and what that says about men and women is completely pointless and self defeating."

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Is this still going on?!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Is this still going on?! "

Is now you just started it.

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By *nderIwonder.Man  over a year ago

2nd City

They seem to have loads to say for them selves in their profile.

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By *nderIwonder.Man  over a year ago

2nd City

Sounds like someone is guilty of saying such things

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"If you started the conversation why do they need to make the effort?

It helps with the conversation"

As someone said before...maybe they don’t want to help the conversation....but are too polite to say so....?

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By *hyntravCouple  over a year ago

North Somerset


"I actually don’t know how you can not reply to someone, I’d feel a bit of a cunt, if someone’s put in an effort with the message. Also even if I’m not interested in that person I’d still be polite, but hey that’s just me. "

I've always been like this but my patience has worn thin recently. I love chatting to people, however because of the nature of the site all conversations inevitably lead to can we meet and fuck. Because that's not possible right now we have added a code word in our profile so people who message have actually understood that it won't end in a fuck but a lot of people seem to think we're lying. I even had one yesterday who clearly had just looked for the code word, told me how he'd read the profile and loved it and then proceeded to tell me he was free that afternoon if I was (not we, just me). I really don't have the patience to reply to those any more. Then there's the ones who have put an effort in so I do reply with a polite thank you but no thank you but that has them opened the doorway to a barrage of numerous messages that they then expect more answers to.

Rhy

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By *iverpool LoverMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"If you started the conversation why do they need to make the effort?

It helps with the conversation

As someone said before...maybe they don’t want to help the conversation....but are too polite to say so....?"

If thats the case dont reply at all or just reply with a sorry but your not what im looking for at this time.

Thinking you are being polite by replying with one word replys when your not interested until the guy finally gets bored and moves on isnt actually being polite, its being a rude and being on the coward side.

I think most men would sooner get a sorry your not for me reply or no reply at all, than one worded replys.

And yes most first messages i receive as some people have said is things like "face pic?"

"Fit"

"Nice body"

"Kik"

"Hey"

Ect and yet on some of their profiles they say guys need to put effort into their messages if they expect a reply.

Double standards on here is phenomenal sometimes.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Op ,

What’s the difference between a whore and a bitch ?

A whore will fuck anyone.

A bitch will fuck anyone but you..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Women are lazy anyway.

They wait for you.to make the first move even when they like you

They're bthe cheapest creatures around, expecting you to pay for everything yet in the same always going on about how they don't need a man, independent and got their money but at the dinner table, their socialists.

I don't care if you say my chances of getting a meet go down. Only proves my point, your only selling point is your pussy, one that depreciates with age and every pump."

Although I don't want to agree I can't help but do so. In real life I'd say not so much, but on here there's a lot of women who come across like that, usually the ones who wouldn't get a second glance in real life.

Unfortunately it's just a power thing here which fortunately doesn't transfer to real life.

Use this place and the women here for fun and take it with a pinch of salt.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

There's a great thing called open ended questions which generally require more than one word answers - some guys should try it

D x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"There's a great thing called open ended questions which generally require more than one word answers - some guys should try it

D x "

What’s your Favorite colour ?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Honestly I can not believe that us guys are always getting told to put more effort into theses messages. The last 3 women I have got intouch with I'd get more conversation out of a brick 1 or 2 word answers. Come on lady's start putting the effort in "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"If you started the conversation why do they need to make the effort?

It helps with the conversation

As someone said before...maybe they don’t want to help the conversation....but are too polite to say so....?

If thats the case dont reply at all or just reply with a sorry but your not what im looking for at this time.

Thinking you are being polite by replying with one word replys when your not interested until the guy finally gets bored and moves on isnt actually being polite, its being a rude and being on the coward side.

I think most men would sooner get a sorry your not for me reply or no reply at all, than one worded replys.

And yes most first messages i receive as some people have said is things like "face pic?"

"Fit"

"Nice body"

"Kik"

"Hey"

Ect and yet on some of their profiles they say guys need to put effort into their messages if they expect a reply.

Double standards on here is phenomenal sometimes."

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Yeah I won’t lie I struggle to reply to messages that I can clearly see are copy and paste ones that you know have been sent to 100s of other woman too

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"This will probably be an unpopular answer but I’m not worried lol...I find (mrs) a lot of women on here have these huge egos and quite often huge arrogance to go with it purely because they are in the minority so undoubtedly get a lot of attention on here, people that we wouldn’t even notice if we were to walk past them in the normal world, are very often rude, demanding and quite often fake lol, fab goes straight to their heads, and it baffles me as to why, personalities can make someone so much uglier than any face can "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yeah I won’t lie I struggle to reply to messages that I can clearly see are copy and paste ones that you know have been sent to 100s of other woman too"

What about that guy that chats you up on a night out, you know, the one that has chatted up several other girls before he got to you.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"This will probably be an unpopular answer but I’m not worried lol...I find (mrs) a lot of women on here have these huge egos and quite often huge arrogance to go with it purely because they are in the minority so undoubtedly get a lot of attention on here, people that we wouldn’t even notice if we were to walk past them in the normal world, are very often rude, demanding and quite often fake lol, fab goes straight to their heads, and it baffles me as to why, personalities can make someone so much uglier than any face can

"

I agree but it also gives us females a bad name

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yeah I won’t lie I struggle to reply to messages that I can clearly see are copy and paste ones that you know have been sent to 100s of other woman too

What about that guy that chats you up on a night out, you know, the one that has chatted up several other girls before he got to you. "

Ohh that would mean going out in the real world I don’t do that lol

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yeah I won’t lie I struggle to reply to messages that I can clearly see are copy and paste ones that you know have been sent to 100s of other woman too"

What do you mean "clearly see" how can you tell, can you give an example?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yeah I won’t lie I struggle to reply to messages that I can clearly see are copy and paste ones that you know have been sent to 100s of other woman too

What do you mean "clearly see" how can you tell, can you give an example?"

Ohhh I have an example in my inbox even after we chatted a while he still sent me the original message again yesterday

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By *alandNitaCouple  over a year ago

Scunthorpe


"Honestly I can not believe that us guys are always getting told to put more effort into theses messages. The last 3 women I have got intouch with I'd get more conversation out of a brick 1 or 2 word answers. Come on lady's start putting the effort in "

The difference us that women have no problem getting meets, they are not clambering over each other to try to get a response from a small number of guys. So... the ladies can be as choosy as they like and no effort us NEEDED. If one guy isn't interested she can just move to the next.

Cal

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yeah I won’t lie I struggle to reply to messages that I can clearly see are copy and paste ones that you know have been sent to 100s of other woman too

What do you mean "clearly see" how can you tell, can you give an example?

Ohhh I have an example in my inbox even after we chatted a while he still sent me the original message again yesterday "

One example?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yeah I won’t lie I struggle to reply to messages that I can clearly see are copy and paste ones that you know have been sent to 100s of other woman too

What do you mean "clearly see" how can you tell, can you give an example?

Ohhh I have an example in my inbox even after we chatted a while he still sent me the original message again yesterday

One example? "

Just off the top of my head yeah

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yeah I won’t lie I struggle to reply to messages that I can clearly see are copy and paste ones that you know have been sent to 100s of other woman too

What do you mean "clearly see" how can you tell, can you give an example?

Ohhh I have an example in my inbox even after we chatted a while he still sent me the original message again yesterday

One example? "

Also if you read my profile it would promt for a different type of message to the norm “oh nice profile wanna chat” kinda message

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yeah I won’t lie I struggle to reply to messages that I can clearly see are copy and paste ones that you know have been sent to 100s of other woman too

What do you mean "clearly see" how can you tell, can you give an example?

Ohhh I have an example in my inbox even after we chatted a while he still sent me the original message again yesterday

One example?

Just off the top of my head yeah "

Well at least it's only one example from one male. Good that you're not judging all men by one example from one male.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS  over a year ago

Central

Often people need guidance - there's nothing wrong with a person who messages, they may be compatible. But if you've got loads of inbox messages, perhaps the majority of them not getting a reply, the onus is potentially still on the person who has the greater level of interest to communicate really well, in order to develop the relationship beyond where it is at.

With the ratios here between the genders being as they are, a disproportionate pressure is placed upon men, so it's an alien environment to them. Many relish the challenge to succeed and do, others don't have such adaptive success.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Hahahaa

This has to be one of the most amusing threads I've read in ages

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

It's a good morning read this..and it seems to have hit a nerve with some on here for whatever reason....all id say is everyone is entitled to an opinion and some are taking it personally..chill out!

I do think sometimes though that you are left to feel a little beneath the woman and that you should feel honoured that you've been acknowledged and you've just got to take it on the chin and that's where I end the conversation

The fab world and real life are so different but if you want to be part of the fab world this is just something you have to accept

**just my opinion remember **

I mainly stay on fab for the forums and pics to perv on to be honest lol

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