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"Do you believe in fate?
Are our life events pre designed or is it all just coincidence and luck? "
Life would be pretty boring if it was pre determined only so many people can become great
I like the idea that at at any moment something wonderfull can happen so no not a fan of fate |
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I like to think that life is a series of choices but those choices are determined by certain parameters and for most people they are predetermined through birth. There are those who are exceptions to this but for most where and when they are born is fate that stays with us for the rest of our lives. So yes I believe in fate up to a point. |
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"I like to think that life is a series of choices but those choices are determined by certain parameters and for most people they are predetermined through birth. There are those who are exceptions to this but for most where and when they are born is fate that stays with us for the rest of our lives. So yes I believe in fate up to a point."
Is that more to do with limits and expectations than fate? |
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"I like to think that life is a series of choices but those choices are determined by certain parameters and for most people they are predetermined through birth. There are those who are exceptions to this but for most where and when they are born is fate that stays with us for the rest of our lives. So yes I believe in fate up to a point."
Can one believe in fate partially or as only applicable to certain people? If fate affects only certain areas of our lives or particular people where does it's influence end? |
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"Do you believe in fate?
Are our life events pre-designed or is it all just coincidence and luck?
I think life is all predetermined and there ain't nothing we can do about it, hence deja-vu "
Thats just a change to the matrix everyone knows that |
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"Do you believe in fate?
Are our life events pre designed or is it all just coincidence and luck? "
As a wise man once said;
"Beyond a wholesome discipline, be gentle with yourself.
You are a child of the universe no less than the trees and the stars;
you have a right to be here.
And whether or not it is clear to you,
no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should."
I like this........ |
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"I think there are some things that could be described as fate, However ultimately we choose which paths to follow in life. "
Totally agree and along those paths are opportunities and pitfalls or better termed as being in the right place at the right time or the wrong place at the wrong time . I do believe you can edge your bets and tilt luck your way . That’s known as effort and hard work  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Everything happens for a reason. Usually because you're a moron that makes bad choices.
Recognising yourself in that statement  "
Yep.  I'm whatever is worse than a moron though! |
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"So if we can influence it is it fate? 
Yes ,,,, because fate is a double edged sword "
How do you mean?
If our lives are ruled by fate we have no influence on the outcome because we're fated to behave a certain way. |
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By *eesideMan
over a year ago
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"Do you believe in fate?
Are our life events pre designed or is it all just coincidence and luck? "
Fate or coincidence I'm not holding my breath wen it comes me finding and being with sumone
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"So if we can influence it is it fate?
Yes ,,,, because fate is a double edged sword
How do you mean?
If our lives are ruled by fate we have no influence on the outcome because we're fated to behave a certain way."
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"So if we can influence it is it fate?
Yes ,,,, because fate is a double edged sword
How do you mean?
If our lives are ruled by fate we have no influence on the outcome because we're fated to behave a certain way."
Fate means the development of events outside a persons control . I get where you are coming from ,,, but ,,, what I’m saying is how you interact with those events as in positively or in a negative way will determine a persons ultimate fate |
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No I have never believed in fate. I think we choose our path. Some go down the wrong path and some choose the right. My sister is an example of this. Brought up same way as me and my other two siblings. She has a tough life. Despite numerous attempts by her family to get out of a bad relationship, she decided against this and chose her path & therefore shes had nothing but grief and pain because of it.
You cant say our paths were predetermined.. we chose them and sometimes you have to make tough decisions to have a better life. |
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"So if we can influence it is it fate?
Yes ,,,, because fate is a double edged sword
How do you mean?
If our lives are ruled by fate we have no influence on the outcome because we're fated to behave a certain way.
Fate means the development of events outside a persons control . I get where you are coming from ,,, but ,,, what I’m saying is how you interact with those events as in positively or in a negative way will determine a persons ultimate fate "
So fate doesn't determine our lives...we do? The way I see it the course of our life is either predetermined or its not. If one believes in fate then our responses and interactions with events are predetermined too. I can't believe that fate applies up to a point then takes a back seat, it sounds too much like religions definition of God.
It's an interesting discussion. Im not sure if our lives are predetermined or not, I think human beings tend to look for reasons for what happens to them and phrases like "fate stepped in" make it easier to absolve themselves of responsibility. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"So if we can influence it is it fate?
Yes ,,,, because fate is a double edged sword
How do you mean?
If our lives are ruled by fate we have no influence on the outcome because we're fated to behave a certain way.
Fate means the development of events outside a persons control . I get where you are coming from ,,, but ,,, what I’m saying is how you interact with those events as in positively or in a negative way will determine a persons ultimate fate
So fate doesn't determine our lives...we do? The way I see it the course of our life is either predetermined or its not. If one believes in fate then our responses and interactions with events are predetermined too. I can't believe that fate applies up to a point then takes a back seat, it sounds too much like religions definition of God.
It's an interesting discussion. Im not sure if our lives are predetermined or not, I think human beings tend to look for reasons for what happens to them and phrases like "fate stepped in" make it easier to absolve themselves of responsibility."
This is what I was thinking. My rational mind knows and understands that we look for links in things. Our brains constantly strive to find reason.
But then there are things that come along that just feel right. Like there is no effort or decisions to be made. It just is. Like it was meant to be. The things that happen, the way things feel, there's no other explanation. |
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"So if we can influence it is it fate?
Yes ,,,, because fate is a double edged sword
How do you mean?
If our lives are ruled by fate we have no influence on the outcome because we're fated to behave a certain way.
Fate means the development of events outside a persons control . I get where you are coming from ,,, but ,,, what I’m saying is how you interact with those events as in positively or in a negative way will determine a persons ultimate fate
So fate doesn't determine our lives...we do? The way I see it the course of our life is either predetermined or its not. If one believes in fate then our responses and interactions with events are predetermined too. I can't believe that fate applies up to a point then takes a back seat, it sounds too much like religions definition of God.
It's an interesting discussion. Im not sure if our lives are predetermined or not, I think human beings tend to look for reasons for what happens to them and phrases like "fate stepped in" make it easier to absolve themselves of responsibility.
This is what I was thinking. My rational mind knows and understands that we look for links in things. Our brains constantly strive to find reason.
But then there are things that come along that just feel right. Like there is no effort or decisions to be made. It just is. Like it was meant to be. The things that happen, the way things feel, there's no other explanation. "
Do you mean there's no other explanation than fate?
Personally I believe that human beings have far more abilities in terms of intuition than we credit ourselves for. Therefore when things coincide we intuitively know it's right and will continue to be because we've unconsciously worked it out.
I haven't articulated that well and maybe you're fated never to understand what I mean  |
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I think as people to a point we control our destiny.. for example I was incredibly unhappy in my work life so I made the conscious decision to get off my arse and do something about it... however sometimes I do believe we are destined for certain things to happen as well...and that fate takes control!? xx |
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"So if we can influence it is it fate?
Yes ,,,, because fate is a double edged sword
How do you mean?
If our lives are ruled by fate we have no influence on the outcome because we're fated to behave a certain way.
Fate means the development of events outside a persons control . I get where you are coming from ,,, but ,,, what I’m saying is how you interact with those events as in positively or in a negative way will determine a persons ultimate fate
So fate doesn't determine our lives...we do? The way I see it the course of our life is either predetermined or its not. If one believes in fate then our responses and interactions with events are predetermined too. I can't believe that fate applies up to a point then takes a back seat, it sounds too much like religions definition of God.
It's an interesting discussion. Im not sure if our lives are predetermined or not, I think human beings tend to look for reasons for what happens to them and phrases like "fate stepped in" make it easier to absolve themselves of responsibility."
I’m not sure on the God part of it . But I think you’ll find we are singing from the same hymn book . Again it’s back to the definition as in events out of our control . However as you quite rightly point out . So often people blame fate and not their own actions . If fate deals me a bad hand . Do I wallow or do I make the best of that bad hand and try to influence fate ? Nothing is predetermined , well that’s what I believe . |
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Sorry Rubidoux was at work and only just had the chance to reply.
"Is that more to do with limits and expectations than fate?"
I'm not sure in all honesty. I think they are interlinked. Its fate to be born where and when you are and for the vast majority of people that is what determines their choices.
Sorry Nicecouple561 for not replying sooner, as above I have just arrived home from work.
"Can one believe in fate partially or as only applicable to certain people? If fate affects only certain areas of our lives or particular people where does it's influence end?"
I believe everyone has choices but its fate that determines what those choices are in all aspects of peoples lives. You are born into whatever situation, socially, environmentally, geographically, and that influences the person you become which in turn influences the choices you make. Some people do find a way to break this but for the majority its influence never ends.
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"So if we can influence it is it fate?
Yes ,,,, because fate is a double edged sword
How do you mean?
If our lives are ruled by fate we have no influence on the outcome because we're fated to behave a certain way.
Fate means the development of events outside a persons control . I get where you are coming from ,,, but ,,, what I’m saying is how you interact with those events as in positively or in a negative way will determine a persons ultimate fate
So fate doesn't determine our lives...we do? The way I see it the course of our life is either predetermined or its not. If one believes in fate then our responses and interactions with events are predetermined too. I can't believe that fate applies up to a point then takes a back seat, it sounds too much like religions definition of God.
It's an interesting discussion. Im not sure if our lives are predetermined or not, I think human beings tend to look for reasons for what happens to them and phrases like "fate stepped in" make it easier to absolve themselves of responsibility.
I’m not sure on the God part of it . But I think you’ll find we are singing from the same hymn book . Again it’s back to the definition as in events out of our control . However as you quite rightly point out . So often people blame fate and not their own actions . If fate deals me a bad hand . Do I wallow or do I make the best of that bad hand and try to influence fate ? Nothing is predetermined , well that’s what I believe . "
Got it! You're saying certain events are outside our control but how we react to them is within our control. I don't call that fate but I do agree with what you say.
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"So if we can influence it is it fate?
Yes ,,,, because fate is a double edged sword
How do you mean?
If our lives are ruled by fate we have no influence on the outcome because we're fated to behave a certain way.
Fate means the development of events outside a persons control . I get where you are coming from ,,, but ,,, what I’m saying is how you interact with those events as in positively or in a negative way will determine a persons ultimate fate
So fate doesn't determine our lives...we do? The way I see it the course of our life is either predetermined or its not. If one believes in fate then our responses and interactions with events are predetermined too. I can't believe that fate applies up to a point then takes a back seat, it sounds too much like religions definition of God.
It's an interesting discussion. Im not sure if our lives are predetermined or not, I think human beings tend to look for reasons for what happens to them and phrases like "fate stepped in" make it easier to absolve themselves of responsibility.
This is what I was thinking. My rational mind knows and understands that we look for links in things. Our brains constantly strive to find reason.
But then there are things that come along that just feel right. Like there is no effort or decisions to be made. It just is. Like it was meant to be. The things that happen, the way things feel, there's no other explanation.
Do you mean there's no other explanation than fate?
Personally I believe that human beings have far more abilities in terms of intuition than we credit ourselves for. Therefore when things coincide we intuitively know it's right and will continue to be because we've unconsciously worked it out.
I haven't articulated that well and maybe you're fated never to understand what I mean "
No I'm the same. I have quite a scientific black and white kinda mind. Fate makes no sense to me. We are born, we live, we die. That makes sense.
I had events recently which are to most a random set of coincidences but the volume of them has been phenomenal and all involve one person.
I guess I agree with your point about intuition. Maybe because subconsciously I know it's right I've been allowing things to be open and just happen naturally. It just feels like the coincidences have been leading somewhere.
I'm probably not wording it well either.
I guess my view is that I'm in control of my own life but I have a wee bit of doubt sometimes and I'm ok with that. If fate is real then it's giving me a good hand right now and I'm grateful. |
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"Do you believe in fate?
Are our life events pre designed or is it all just coincidence and luck?
As a wise man once said;
"Beyond a wholesome discipline, be gentle with yourself.
You are a child of the universe no less than the trees and the stars;
you have a right to be here.
And whether or not it is clear to you,
no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should."
I like this........"
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"So if we can influence it is it fate?
Yes ,,,, because fate is a double edged sword
How do you mean?
If our lives are ruled by fate we have no influence on the outcome because we're fated to behave a certain way.
Fate means the development of events outside a persons control . I get where you are coming from ,,, but ,,, what I’m saying is how you interact with those events as in positively or in a negative way will determine a persons ultimate fate
So fate doesn't determine our lives...we do? The way I see it the course of our life is either predetermined or its not. If one believes in fate then our responses and interactions with events are predetermined too. I can't believe that fate applies up to a point then takes a back seat, it sounds too much like religions definition of God.
It's an interesting discussion. Im not sure if our lives are predetermined or not, I think human beings tend to look for reasons for what happens to them and phrases like "fate stepped in" make it easier to absolve themselves of responsibility.
I’m not sure on the God part of it . But I think you’ll find we are singing from the same hymn book . Again it’s back to the definition as in events out of our control . However as you quite rightly point out . So often people blame fate and not their own actions . If fate deals me a bad hand . Do I wallow or do I make the best of that bad hand and try to influence fate ? Nothing is predetermined , well that’s what I believe .
Got it! You're saying certain events are outside our control but how we react to them is within our control. I don't call that fate but I do agree with what you say.
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Yes . The only thing we have control of are ourselves and the choices we make . It’s all a bit heavy ,, |
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Do you mean there's no other explanation than fate?
Personally I believe that human beings have far more abilities in terms of intuition than we credit ourselves for. Therefore when things coincide we intuitively know it's right and will continue to be because we've unconsciously worked it out.
I haven't articulated that well and maybe you're fated never to understand what I mean
No I'm the same. I have quite a scientific black and white kinda mind. Fate makes no sense to me. We are born, we live, we die. That makes sense.
I had events recently which are to most a random set of coincidences but the volume of them has been phenomenal and all involve one person.
I guess I agree with your point about intuition. Maybe because subconsciously I know it's right I've been allowing things to be open and just happen naturally. It just feels like the coincidences have been leading somewhere.
I'm probably not wording it well either.
I guess my view is that I'm in control of my own life but I have a wee bit of doubt sometimes and I'm ok with that. If fate is real then it's giving me a good hand right now and I'm grateful. "
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"So if we can influence it is it fate?
Yes ,,,, because fate is a double edged sword
How do you mean?
If our lives are ruled by fate we have no influence on the outcome because we're fated to behave a certain way.
Fate means the development of events outside a persons control . I get where you are coming from ,,, but ,,, what I’m saying is how you interact with those events as in positively or in a negative way will determine a persons ultimate fate
So fate doesn't determine our lives...we do? The way I see it the course of our life is either predetermined or its not. If one believes in fate then our responses and interactions with events are predetermined too. I can't believe that fate applies up to a point then takes a back seat, it sounds too much like religions definition of God.
It's an interesting discussion. Im not sure if our lives are predetermined or not, I think human beings tend to look for reasons for what happens to them and phrases like "fate stepped in" make it easier to absolve themselves of responsibility.
I’m not sure on the God part of it . But I think you’ll find we are singing from the same hymn book . Again it’s back to the definition as in events out of our control . However as you quite rightly point out . So often people blame fate and not their own actions . If fate deals me a bad hand . Do I wallow or do I make the best of that bad hand and try to influence fate ? Nothing is predetermined , well that’s what I believe .
Got it! You're saying certain events are outside our control but how we react to them is within our control. I don't call that fate but I do agree with what you say.
Yes . The only thing we have control of are ourselves and the choices we make . It’s all a bit heavy ,, "
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"So if we can influence it is it fate?
Yes ,,,, because fate is a double edged sword
How do you mean?
If our lives are ruled by fate we have no influence on the outcome because we're fated to behave a certain way.
Fate means the development of events outside a persons control . I get where you are coming from ,,, but ,,, what I’m saying is how you interact with those events as in positively or in a negative way will determine a persons ultimate fate
So fate doesn't determine our lives...we do? The way I see it the course of our life is either predetermined or its not. If one believes in fate then our responses and interactions with events are predetermined too. I can't believe that fate applies up to a point then takes a back seat, it sounds too much like religions definition of God.
It's an interesting discussion. Im not sure if our lives are predetermined or not, I think human beings tend to look for reasons for what happens to them and phrases like "fate stepped in" make it easier to absolve themselves of responsibility.
I’m not sure on the God part of it . But I think you’ll find we are singing from the same hymn book . Again it’s back to the definition as in events out of our control . However as you quite rightly point out . So often people blame fate and not their own actions . If fate deals me a bad hand . Do I wallow or do I make the best of that bad hand and try to influence fate ? Nothing is predetermined , well that’s what I believe .
Got it! You're saying certain events are outside our control but how we react to them is within our control. I don't call that fate but I do agree with what you say.
Yes . The only thing we have control of are ourselves and the choices we make . It’s all a bit heavy ,,
I have very little control around certain types of biscuit. "
My lack of control centres on Indian food . But Jaffa cakes will often figure |
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