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By *man86 OP Man
over a year ago
Chesterfield |
Just wondering I've been out the scene for a while but went to a private party last night and it was really gd. paid 25 as a single guy hadn't been yo a club for a while.....
Ringing to find prices for other local venues and I'm told its 40 for the night 45 at weekends or pay 35 for membership and the its 20 every other time. Its not that I mind paying its the extortion which as single guys have to pay some times. Because single guys are the repeat customers so are single ladies but they will get in free couples pay slightly less but the guys will always come in and pay regardless if there is anything or not why do some place's charge a arm and a leg? |
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Just to put you right on one point OP.
As a single lady I've only ever got into two clubs free, cupids on a curvy event and club 29 during the daytime.
I always expect to pay and it is usually £10. Yes it is much cheaper for single ladies to attend but clubs do this to try and encourage more of us to attend - on some visits I've been the only single lady there.
Not all clubs are out to rip off single men and some charge the same for couples as they do single men. |
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A few points. Firstly, it's not always free for single women - I've paid £20-25 for the last 3 events I've been to.
Secondly, if it was say a fiver for a single man to go, it would be over run and just a club full of single men. Fun!
Thirdly, what do you mean by 'regardless of if there is anything or not'? |
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"If your paying for their fanny their hookers I don't pay I get it free don't want a woman who only shags me for a fiver "
Think you've seriously misunderstood clubs there. And swinging. And women.
We're not paying for sex in a club, we're paying to socialise and use the facilities - if there is play, that's a bonus. |
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"If your paying for their fanny their hookers I don't pay I get it free don't want a woman who only shags me for a fiver
Think you've seriously misunderstood clubs there. And swinging. And women.
We're not paying for sex in a club, we're paying to socialise and use the facilities - if there is play, that's a bonus. "
That's our take on it also. There's the added bonus that you get to establish a rapport on the night with others, so even if you don't play, there's every chance of getting an invite, away from the club at a future date. Networking is always good if you can make a good impression. |
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"I mean if you go in how often do do you see girls just standing around waiting for a guy to come in  "
I'm guessing that might well be a response to my query on what you meant about 'regardless of anything or not.'
No - you won't see any woman or couple standing around waiting for a guy to come in because they're there to socialise, relax and have fun on their own terms. Not sit there like wallflowers waiting for a bloke to walk in and pick them. You're thinking of something else if that's your image... |
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"If your paying for their fanny their hookers I don't pay I get it free don't want a woman who only shags me for a fiver
Think you've seriously misunderstood clubs there. And swinging. And women.
We're not paying for sex in a club, we're paying to socialise and use the facilities - if there is play, that's a bonus.
That's our take on it also. There's the added bonus that you get to establish a rapport on the night with others, so even if you don't play, there's every chance of getting an invite, away from the club at a future date. Networking is always good if you can make a good impression."
Totally agree. I love going to have a dance, a drink and a chat. The rare times I don't drive, a hotel is part of that package. It's great to meet people even if it never turns into anything but a natter about life, love and taxes in the jacuzzi! |
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By *man86 OP Man
over a year ago
Chesterfield |
"If your paying for their fanny their hookers I don't pay I get it free don't want a woman who only shags me for a fiver
Think you've seriously misunderstood clubs there. And swinging. And women.
We're not paying for sex in a club, we're paying to socialise and use the facilities - if there is play, that's a bonus.
That's our take on it also. There's the added bonus that you get to establish a rapport on the night with others, so even if you don't play, there's every chance of getting an invite, away from the club at a future date. Networking is always good if you can make a good impression."
Don't get me wrong and please try to actually understand the question at the being which is why for a private party guest list only I pay 25 in place and yet to another it's 40 as standard. I get why it's cheaper for women but at the same time it takes two to tango the girls won't come if the guys ain't there and vicer versa.... Well actually not cost guys will always come and sit there waiting lol |
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By *man86 OP Man
over a year ago
Chesterfield |
"I don't think I would want to pay for a fiver I don't know what I'd be getting lol 
Add £50+ for a Ferry to that...
We stand by our previous post though...  "
I agree love networking and I think you meet people who are genueinly real rather than I a night out in town cos if someone is willing to talk to you practically naked who you have never meet before but talk to you as a human being they are going to be their true self rather than what they are wearing or what they can buy ect ect.... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"If your paying for their fanny their hookers I don't pay I get it free don't want a woman who only shags me for a fiver "
The women are paying too, so that makes the men male Hookers according to your logic..... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Does he realise you dont pay the individual??? Haha
No different from you paying to go into a decent night club
Would that mean, if i pulled on a night out, in a club in which we both paid, that im a hooker?
If so, i need to add this to my profile or even my CV i need to get reviews for this. Oh, and potentially customer feedback and if id be recommended. Might do it out of a 5 star rating aswell. Would i put professional male sex worker or amateur though?
I should know this stuff really its supposedly my occupation |
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"I get why it's cheaper for women but at the same time it takes two to tango the girls won't come if the guys ain't there and vicer versa.... Well actually not cost guys will always come and sit there waiting lol"
I have been to a club several times to find more women than men because they don't just use it for sex sometimes the girls just like to meet up, drink wine, soak in the hot tub, chill out together and chat :D it's a great social venue. Especially in the day time when there are less people. And correct; women won't just sit around waiting for men to arrive, they always find some way of keeping busy gods forbid they may fuck each other when men aren't around!  |
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Amd sometimes if you are reeeally lucky you are the only person in the place and have free rein of everything you like without feeling like you have to talk. So blissful just sitting in the hot tub and floating for ages alone in silence. It is like a personal spa lol. |
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By *man86 OP Man
over a year ago
Chesterfield |
"Does he realise you dont pay the individual??? Haha
No different from you paying to go into a decent night club
Would that mean, if i pulled on a night out, in a club in which we both paid, that im a hooker?
If so, i need to add this to my profile or even my CV i need to get reviews for this. Oh, and potentially customer feedback and if id be recommended. Might do it out of a 5 star rating aswell. Would i put professional male sex worker or amateur though?
I should know this stuff really its supposedly my occupation "
Please read the original msg which started the forum and yes you could be a male escourt and if that is the case your over charging yourself know what your worth!!! |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
chelmsford |
"If your paying for their fanny their hookers I don't pay I get it free don't want a woman who only shags me for a fiver
Think you've seriously misunderstood clubs there. And swinging. And women.
We're not paying for sex in a club, we're paying to socialise and use the facilities - if there is play, that's a bonus.
That's our take on it also. There's the added bonus that you get to establish a rapport on the night with others, so even if you don't play, there's every chance of getting an invite, away from the club at a future date. Networking is always good if you can make a good impression.
Don't get me wrong and please try to actually understand the question at the being which is why for a private party guest list only I pay 25 in place and yet to another it's 40 as standard. I get why it's cheaper for women but at the same time it takes two to tango the girls won't come if the guys ain't there and vicer versa.... Well actually not cost guys will always come and sit there waiting lol"
I suppose these places have overheads, especially if it's a club rather than say, a house party  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"If your paying for their fanny their hookers I don't pay I get it free don't want a woman who only shags me for a fiver "
Yet you have swingers clubs on your interests |
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By *man86 OP Man
over a year ago
Chesterfield |
Please understand the question I am actually trying to put forward is for a private party 25 and guest list only another club 40 as standard that's the whole context everything else is now lost in translation  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Does he realise you dont pay the individual??? Haha
No different from you paying to go into a decent night club
Would that mean, if i pulled on a night out, in a club in which we both paid, that im a hooker?
If so, i need to add this to my profile or even my CV i need to get reviews for this. Oh, and potentially customer feedback and if id be recommended. Might do it out of a 5 star rating aswell. Would i put professional male sex worker or amateur though?
I should know this stuff really its supposedly my occupation
Please read the original msg which started the forum and yes you could be a male escourt and if that is the case your over charging yourself know what your worth!!! "
Werent a reply to the OP mate, my bad should of quoted |
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Don't get me wrong and please try to actually understand the question at the being which is why for a private party guest list only I pay 25 in place and yet to another it's 40 as standard. I get why it's cheaper for women but at the same time it takes two to tango the girls won't come if the guys ain't there and vicer versa.... Well actually not cost guys will always come and sit there waiting lol "
But its the sitting or more likely standing waiting that is a big problem that they create for themselves, network, chat with others...
That is why even high-end car dealerships have sales-staff. The cars in theory should sell themselves, but the people they are trying to take them, expect more than an inanimate object |
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By *man86 OP Man
over a year ago
Chesterfield |
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I suppose these places have overheads, especially if it's a club rather than say, a house party "
I do get the over heads there are staff to pay to mange it there is looking after everyone and making sure everyone is alright the the drinks are flowing nobody's not doing anything they shouldn't be do on and so forth but I'm trying to figure out the whole price diffrnce between places and everyone seems to be thinkinging otherwise |
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"Please understand the question I am actually trying to put forward is for a private party 25 and guest list only another club 40 as standard that's the whole context everything else is now lost in translation "
A private party and a swingers club are very different.
Private parties are usually held in people's homes and they have very few overheads. Swingers clubs have costs associate with running the business and these have to be passed on to patrons.
I would be wary of private parties that charge entry fees. They are often run to make big profits for the organisers and in my opinion are nothing like a "proper" private party.
To use an analogy, a "proper" private party is more akin to visiting a friends house for a dinner party than going to a restaurant. |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
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"Please understand the question I am actually trying to put forward is for a private party 25 and guest list only another club 40 as standard that's the whole context everything else is now lost in translation "
If you're comparing a private house party with a club, I would think the club have higher overheads, thus charge more than a party |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Overheads at clubs. Money to fund jetwashing the spunk and gush off the place every night.
Greed at parties. It doesn't cost hundreds of pounds to wash their own sheets.
Prostitution at both. Money is changing hands and sex is involved.
If I go to a club I'm well aware that people are paying for the chance of sex. If they wanted a hot tub they'd go to a spa! |
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"Overheads at clubs. Money to fund jetwashing the spunk and gush off the place every night.
Greed at parties. It doesn't cost hundreds of pounds to wash their own sheets.
Prostitution at both. Money is changing hands and sex is involved.
If I go to a club I'm well aware that people are paying for the chance of sex. If they wanted a hot tub they'd go to a spa!"
I often go to swingers clubs for the spa!
It is only a tenner for the club but my local spa charges £70 if you book well in advance and £99 if you don't!
Plus you can be naughty at a club if you want too  |
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By *adame BWoman
over a year ago
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This battle scene went down on the Irish forum's yesterday about single guy's getting an unfair deal. Having gone to club's as a single female, a couple FF and a couple MF there is usually a higher amount of single guy's plus the huge stand by list of those that didn't get the invite. Some single guy's are not as reliable so that has to be allowed for. Single guy's are the majority so the number's looking for invites is higher (supply and demand)
I understand the logic but don't agree with the unfairness of it.
As for those saying it's to socialise...no. socialising is an aspect of going there but mainly you chose the venue for the opportunity of sex with other swingers if truth be told. You don't go in ticking off the amount that you can get through but it is the reason behind going otherwise you would have gone to a social or vanilla club. It is a great environment to meet swingers and socialise in group of like minded people and is set at the prices it is set at for numbers ratio and business reasons. I can't see it changing regardless of single guy's attending as they always will and that's a reality because the club environment increases their chances of making connections and potentially leading to sex. Your entrance fee is for entry to the club only! Not for sex. |
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It's a pity that there is this price differential permitted in private clubs, as other business types would be breaking the law. I dislike it, as it perpetuates inequality, which goes against the grain for me.
Often discussed here but it's the general norm in the UK club scene. I wish the law had included private clubs in equality legislation and the clubs had found a way to be profitable, without some going bust.
I feel sure that it will become illegal to do this before long. |
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"Overheads at clubs. Money to fund jetwashing the spunk and gush off the place every night.
Greed at parties. It doesn't cost hundreds of pounds to wash their own sheets.
Prostitution at both. Money is changing hands and sex is involved.
If I go to a club I'm well aware that people are paying for the chance of sex. If they wanted a hot tub they'd go to a spa!
I often go to swingers clubs for the spa!
It is only a tenner for the club but my local spa charges £70 if you book well in advance and £99 if you don't!
Plus you can be naughty at a club if you want too "
Bloody hell I take back my comment then! £99?!?! Sod that.  |
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"Please understand the question I am actually trying to put forward is for a private party 25 and guest list only another club 40 as standard that's the whole context everything else is now lost in translation "
Owners will charge differently according to their popularity, the numbers they get in, the reputation they are trying to create, the facilities.... a million reasons. This isn't an oligopoly! |
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By *adame BWoman
over a year ago
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"Last time I'm going to say it cos ppl are going on their own tangents which is quite interesting because it shows how your train of thinking when given such words. But what I'm trying to establish is the price difrence from venue to venue if that makes it clearer for anyone else who has two cents to throw in "
Because they can I think.
Lack of regulations and popularity will dictate prices for different venue's. Some will factor in safety, facilities and maintenance into price and some are chancers. |
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By *man86 OP Man
over a year ago
Chesterfield |
"Please understand the question I am actually trying to put forward is for a private party 25 and guest list only another club 40 as standard that's the whole context everything else is now lost in translation
Owners will charge differently according to their popularity, the numbers they get in, the reputation they are trying to create, the facilities.... a million reasons. This isn't an oligopoly!"
your right prices will variety depending on the clientele you want to bring in and popularity so on and so on but at the same time it's very niche market unless ppl are on Fab most ppl don't realise swing clubs exist. And my point is 40 guys go in to a place which charges 25 that's a a 1000 you could have that on a average night let alone a weekend so do the math and then tell me about overheads. Just saying |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
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"Please understand the question I am actually trying to put forward is for a private party 25 and guest list only another club 40 as standard that's the whole context everything else is now lost in translation
Owners will charge differently according to their popularity, the numbers they get in, the reputation they are trying to create, the facilities.... a million reasons. This isn't an oligopoly! your right prices will variety depending on the clientele you want to bring in and popularity so on and so on but at the same time it's very niche market unless ppl are on Fab most ppl don't realise swing clubs exist. And my point is 40 guys go in to a place which charges 25 that's a a 1000 you could have that on a average night let alone a weekend so do the math and then tell me about overheads. Just saying"
They're in business to make money, as is any other business |
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"Please understand the question I am actually trying to put forward is for a private party 25 and guest list only another club 40 as standard that's the whole context everything else is now lost in translation
Owners will charge differently according to their popularity, the numbers they get in, the reputation they are trying to create, the facilities.... a million reasons. This isn't an oligopoly! your right prices will variety depending on the clientele you want to bring in and popularity so on and so on but at the same time it's very niche market unless ppl are on Fab most ppl don't realise swing clubs exist. And my point is 40 guys go in to a place which charges 25 that's a a 1000 you could have that on a average night let alone a weekend so do the math and then tell me about overheads. Just saying"
Are you so naive that you think they're covering their overheads and that's that?
If this is a private party, in someone's house, as already explained - many people agree with you unless they're going all out and putting on expensive food (e.g. BBQ) and lots of booze - even then it's a bit rich asking for more than a contribution to have friends round for the evening.
But clubs are businesses - they exist to make the owners money. And they will charge what they can while still getting people in.
You're also totally wrong in your assumption that it's just Fab that is fuelling the attendance at clubs - some of them have been around for years, 18 and more, before any of the swinging sites existed. There was a scene long before the internet. Even now I still meet people who aren't members of any sites or who just joined after hearing about them in a club but aren't all that into the online side of things. |
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"Last time I'm going to say it cos ppl are going on their own tangents which is quite interesting because it shows how your train of thinking when given such words. But what I'm trying to establish is the price difrence from venue to venue if that makes it clearer for anyone else who has two cents to throw in "
OP the simple answer is just because they can and their customers are willing to pay it.
Why does asda charge 50p for a tin of branded baked beans yet waitrose charge 80p?
Same answer |
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By *man86 OP Man
over a year ago
Chesterfield |
"Please understand the question I am actually trying to put forward is for a private party 25 and guest list only another club 40 as standard that's the whole context everything else is now lost in translation
Owners will charge differently according to their popularity, the numbers they get in, the reputation they are trying to create, the facilities.... a million reasons. This isn't an oligopoly! your right prices will variety depending on the clientele you want to bring in and popularity so on and so on but at the same time it's very niche market unless ppl are on Fab most ppl don't realise swing clubs exist. And my point is 40 guys go in to a place which charges 25 that's a a 1000 you could have that on a average night let alone a weekend so do the math and then tell me about overheads. Just saying
They're in business to make money, as is any other business "
that was the simplest awnser and I just wanted to see how ppl see it |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
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"Please understand the question I am actually trying to put forward is for a private party 25 and guest list only another club 40 as standard that's the whole context everything else is now lost in translation
Owners will charge differently according to their popularity, the numbers they get in, the reputation they are trying to create, the facilities.... a million reasons. This isn't an oligopoly! your right prices will variety depending on the clientele you want to bring in and popularity so on and so on but at the same time it's very niche market unless ppl are on Fab most ppl don't realise swing clubs exist. And my point is 40 guys go in to a place which charges 25 that's a a 1000 you could have that on a average night let alone a weekend so do the math and then tell me about overheads. Just saying
They're in business to make money, as is any other business that was the simplest awnser and I just wanted to see how ppl see it"
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By *man86 OP Man
over a year ago
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"Please understand the question I am actually trying to put forward is for a private party 25 and guest list only another club 40 as standard that's the whole context everything else is now lost in translation
Owners will charge differently according to their popularity, the numbers they get in, the reputation they are trying to create, the facilities.... a million reasons. This isn't an oligopoly! your right prices will variety depending on the clientele you want to bring in and popularity so on and so on but at the same time it's very niche market unless ppl are on Fab most ppl don't realise swing clubs exist. And my point is 40 guys go in to a place which charges 25 that's a a 1000 you could have that on a average night let alone a weekend so do the math and then tell me about overheads. Just saying
Are you so naive that you think they're covering their overheads and that's that?
If this is a private party, in someone's house, as already explained - many people agree with you unless they're going all out and putting on expensive food (e.g. BBQ) and lots of booze - even then it's a bit rich asking for more than a contribution to have friends round for the evening.
But clubs are businesses - they exist to make the owners money. And they will charge what they can while still getting people in.
You're also totally wrong in your assumption that it's just Fab that is fuelling the attendance at clubs - some of them have been around for years, 18 and more, before any of the swinging sites existed. There was a scene long before the internet. Even now I still meet people who aren't members of any sites or who just joined after hearing about them in a club but aren't all that into the online side of things. "
no I get that and what I'm trying to say that fab is a good way of them getting publicity but besides that it's word off mouth and it's not like you could walk into a town center and just ask a random person where's the best swingers club but ask them for a dance club or rnb club they can usually point you in the right direction. I'm not neive it is a buissnes and it's about profit I'm just questioning the margins between places that's all. |
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By *man86 OP Man
over a year ago
Chesterfield |
"Last time I'm going to say it cos ppl are going on their own tangents which is quite interesting because it shows how your train of thinking when given such words. But what I'm trying to establish is the price difrence from venue to venue if that makes it clearer for anyone else who has two cents to throw in
OP the simple answer is just because they can and their customers are willing to pay it.
Why does asda charge 50p for a tin of branded baked beans yet waitrose charge 80p?
Same answer "
cos the packaging is difrent my mate works where they make same batch masse produced exactly the same just get a diffrent label at the end ha ha |
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