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By *rsTrellis OP   Woman  over a year ago

Cambridge

FAB CRAP RUNNERS' CLUB

WEEK SEVENTEEN!!!!

MOTTO: We run #LikeAToddlerChasingAPug

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Hey lovely Fab Crap Runners!

It's Week Seventeen! The weather finally got warmer and suddenly we jumped from “it’s too cold to run” to “it’s too hot to run”. There must be an exact perfect temperature!

I’ve decided to stop the person-by-person summary at the beginning of each thread. It’s been fun to do but takes a good couple of hours each Sunday evening and it’s tricky to reliably find that time every week. I hope that’ll be ok with everyone. We’ll still run andchat snd cheer each other on exactly like before.

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STOP PRESS... STOP PRESS... STOP PRESS... STOP PRESS... STOP PRESS...

Two dates for your diaries:

1) The next Fab Crap Runners' Club parkrun and social will be at 8.45am on Sat 5 May 2018 at the Great Denham parkrun near Bedford followed by coffee and gossip in a nearby pub. All welcome. Please RSVP by direct message.

2) The FCRC sex-club social will be on 8 June at Vanilla Alternative from 8pm. (Please note, you'll need to ensure you're a member of the club and that you've booked a place well in advance). Again, please RSVP.

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EXPLANATION AND ETHOS:

EVERYONE is welcome in the Fab Crap Runners' Club (the crapper the better).

From 1st January, a bunch of Fabbers began improving our fitness through running. None of us were natural athletes (I was a natural couch potato!) but we did it anyway.

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FOR COMPLETE BEGINNERS:

"Couch to 5k" (C25K) is a nine-week running programme for absolute beginners, available on various free phone apps (I used Get Running). But you can join this thread to get fit by any means including walking and cycling - all are welcome. If you're expecting to be utterly crap at it (I mean reeeeeeeeeally bad), you're in the right place. Join the thread, tell us what your aim is and we'll cheer you on each week, just for trying.

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AND FINALLY:

Any activity is better than none so keep at it you fabulous specimens of gorgeousness.

Mrs Trellis x

PS - Don't forget the socials! All are welcome. Please RSVP by direct message.

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By *rsTrellis OP   Woman  over a year ago

Cambridge

Hi everyone

I volunteered at a junior parkrun yesterday. The kids were lovely.

As for my running, I didn’t manage it at all last week so I’ll be all over it this week. I’m scared that if I miss too many days I’ll be straight back to week one!!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I went out this morning for an early morning run, saw the sun rise on this beautiful day

Phone worked for a change, but only managed 4.6k legs didn't want to move as much as my brain wanted them to!

Have a lovely day FCRC x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Reporting for duty

Working this week but may get out on wed on my shift swap. Walked just over 11 miles yesterday

Have a good day everyone

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By *itch and TwatCouple  over a year ago

Near Rushden Lakes

Bookmarking the thread...

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By *elfastblondMan  over a year ago

Belfast

I'd a busy weekend of running parkrun on Saturday in lovely sunshine and a half marathon in the rain yesterday

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By *alking DisasterWoman  over a year ago

South Oxfordshire


"I'd a busy weekend of running parkrun on Saturday in lovely sunshine and a half marathon in the rain yesterday"

How did you get on at your half yesterday?

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By *alking DisasterWoman  over a year ago

South Oxfordshire

Ran three times last week, two club sessions (including a hill one!) and parkrun where I took another almost 30 seconds off last weeks time.

I didn't end up running yesterday because I was in a grump - lots of things, but the route I was meant to do was hilly and off road and my club forgot to confirm that the social run started at 8:30, not 9:00...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Just checking in. Yesterday I went for a long walk with the dog.

Any advice for a sore hip. I did parkrun the other week think I jarred it running on the mud. It was sore for a couple of days then stopped but flared up yesterday. Not sure if it was the position I'd been in the night before or the walk. Should I carry on or rest ? Thanks on advance x

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By *ookingforlustMan  over a year ago

northants

Didn’t run last week sadly. But getting back on it this week.

Having a bit of a problem with really sore feet at the minute. Both feet, on the side about half way along. Anyone know what it might be? Is it a common running problem? Am I just getting too old?

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By *alking DisasterWoman  over a year ago

South Oxfordshire


"Didn’t run last week sadly. But getting back on it this week.

Having a bit of a problem with really sore feet at the minute. Both feet, on the side about half way along. Anyone know what it might be? Is it a common running problem? Am I just getting too old? "

Have you ever had your gait analysed? It might be that you overpronate, but are wearing neutral shoes.

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By *elfastblondMan  over a year ago

Belfast


"I'd a busy weekend of running parkrun on Saturday in lovely sunshine and a half marathon in the rain yesterday

How did you get on at your half yesterday?"

I didn't get a PB but I won it

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By *itch and TwatCouple  over a year ago

Near Rushden Lakes


"Didn’t run last week sadly. But getting back on it this week.

Having a bit of a problem with really sore feet at the minute. Both feet, on the side about half way along. Anyone know what it might be? Is it a common running problem? Am I just getting too old?

Have you ever had your gait analysed? It might be that you overpronate, but are wearing neutral shoes."

That was my thought exactly...

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By *ookingforlustMan  over a year ago

northants


"Didn’t run last week sadly. But getting back on it this week.

Having a bit of a problem with really sore feet at the minute. Both feet, on the side about half way along. Anyone know what it might be? Is it a common running problem? Am I just getting too old?

Have you ever had your gait analysed? It might be that you overpronate, but are wearing neutral shoes."

I haven’t. And to be honest I didn’t know that was a thing. Where would I get my gait analysed?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Long day out in London yeaterday. Specifically supporting the runners running for the charity my girlfriend ran VLM for in 2016. I've pretty much lost my voice and got bruised hands! Not once did I wish I was running it, the heat was brutal.

Back on it tonight with a run through the fields planned as my commute home

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By *alking DisasterWoman  over a year ago

South Oxfordshire


"I'd a busy weekend of running parkrun on Saturday in lovely sunshine and a half marathon in the rain yesterday

How did you get on at your half yesterday?

I didn't get a PB but I won it "

Fantastic

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By *alking DisasterWoman  over a year ago

South Oxfordshire


"Didn’t run last week sadly. But getting back on it this week.

Having a bit of a problem with really sore feet at the minute. Both feet, on the side about half way along. Anyone know what it might be? Is it a common running problem? Am I just getting too old?

Have you ever had your gait analysed? It might be that you overpronate, but are wearing neutral shoes.

I haven’t. And to be honest I didn’t know that was a thing. Where would I get my gait analysed?"

In Peterborough there are two shops you can try Advanced Performance and Sweatshop. I've not used the first, but know people that have and they liked the shop. I've personally used the Sweatshop in Peterborough and found the staff nice and helpful. (I used to live locally and have done the Peterborough half twice).

I believe with both shops, gait analysis is free if you buy a pair of trainers from them. I'm not sure how much they charge if you don't.

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By *ookingforlustMan  over a year ago

northants


"Didn’t run last week sadly. But getting back on it this week.

Having a bit of a problem with really sore feet at the minute. Both feet, on the side about half way along. Anyone know what it might be? Is it a common running problem? Am I just getting too old?

Have you ever had your gait analysed? It might be that you overpronate, but are wearing neutral shoes.

I haven’t. And to be honest I didn’t know that was a thing. Where would I get my gait analysed?

In Peterborough there are two shops you can try Advanced Performance and Sweatshop. I've not used the first, but know people that have and they liked the shop. I've personally used the Sweatshop in Peterborough and found the staff nice and helpful. (I used to live locally and have done the Peterborough half twice).

I believe with both shops, gait analysis is free if you buy a pair of trainers from them. I'm not sure how much they charge if you don't."

Thanks for the info. I will get over there and see if they can sort me out.

Thank you for the help!!

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By *ertsDrewMan  over a year ago

Hitchin

Hello again folks. I haven't run since last Wednesday. Desperately need one this evening.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Hey everybody, just stumbled across this thread and hope you don’t mind me joining in!

I was lucky enough to run/walk through the streets of London yesterday..... had a great time which I’d recommend to anyone

I was beaten by a sprinting Zippy in the last 100 yards as well as a load of other assorted creatures by the time I finished but at least I had a big smile on my face!

Absolutely no running (and hardly any walking) today though

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By *alking DisasterWoman  over a year ago

South Oxfordshire


"Hey everybody, just stumbled across this thread and hope you don’t mind me joining in!

I was lucky enough to run/walk through the streets of London yesterday..... had a great time which I’d recommend to anyone

I was beaten by a sprinting Zippy in the last 100 yards as well as a load of other assorted creatures by the time I finished but at least I had a big smile on my face!

Absolutely no running (and hardly any walking) today though "

The more, the merrier.

Well done on completing London. It was a hot one out there yesterday? I've wanted to run it since the first time I saw it on tv (I think I was about 7).

I once did a 10k and was beaten by a load of bananas...

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By *itch and TwatCouple  over a year ago

Near Rushden Lakes


"Hey everybody, just stumbled across this thread and hope you don’t mind me joining in!

I was lucky enough to run/walk through the streets of London yesterday..... had a great time which I’d recommend to anyone

I was beaten by a sprinting Zippy in the last 100 yards as well as a load of other assorted creatures by the time I finished but at least I had a big smile on my face!

Absolutely no running (and hardly any walking) today though "

There was that I was passed by a couple of Mr.Men, Bill and Ben the Flowerpot Men...although I did manage a photo finish win against Little Weed...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

It was boiling yesterday...... so much so they ran out of water at some of the stops

I think the ballot for next year opens next week so get your hat in the ring..... you’ll love it !

(And nothing wrong being beaten by a banana)

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By *elfastblondMan  over a year ago

Belfast


"Hey everybody, just stumbled across this thread and hope you don’t mind me joining in!

I was lucky enough to run/walk through the streets of London yesterday..... had a great time which I’d recommend to anyone

I was beaten by a sprinting Zippy in the last 100 yards as well as a load of other assorted creatures by the time I finished but at least I had a big smile on my face!

Absolutely no running (and hardly any walking) today though

The more, the merrier.

Well done on completing London. It was a hot one out there yesterday? I've wanted to run it since the first time I saw it on tv (I think I was about 7).

I once did a 10k and was beaten by a load of bananas..."

I was beaten by a banana and overtaken buy a guy with a bionic leg at the Belfast marathon

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By *alking DisasterWoman  over a year ago

South Oxfordshire

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By *alking DisasterWoman  over a year ago

South Oxfordshire


"It was boiling yesterday...... so much so they ran out of water at some of the stops

I think the ballot for next year opens next week so get your hat in the ring..... you’ll love it !

(And nothing wrong being beaten by a banana) "

It will be the third time I've entered the ballot - each time I was secretly relieved that I hadn't got in.

The 30th April is now in my diary though...

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By *arryJones1975Man  over a year ago

ely

Will be at the next social

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By *alking DisasterWoman  over a year ago

South Oxfordshire


"Will be at the next social "

Running, or just the social?

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By *arryJones1975Man  over a year ago

ely


"Will be at the next social

Running, or just the social?"

Hopefully running or at least fast walking again

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By *alking DisasterWoman  over a year ago

South Oxfordshire


"Will be at the next social

Running, or just the social?

Hopefully running or at least fast walking again "

See you there then

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By *arryJones1975Man  over a year ago

ely


"Will be at the next social

Running, or just the social?

Hopefully running or at least fast walking again

See you there then "

Hurrah x x x

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By *lla_maiWoman  over a year ago

staffordshire

Bookmarking, still feeling unwell, didnt run last week at all and doubt i will this week either, which is a pain as i actually want to get out there. Whatever it is, its completely drained me

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By *alking DisasterWoman  over a year ago

South Oxfordshire


"Bookmarking, still feeling unwell, didnt run last week at all and doubt i will this week either, which is a pain as i actually want to get out there. Whatever it is, its completely drained me "

Hope you feel better soon. Don't make the mistake of thinking you are better and going out for a run before you are well enough to, it will only set you back even further

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By *lla_maiWoman  over a year ago

staffordshire


"Bookmarking, still feeling unwell, didnt run last week at all and doubt i will this week either, which is a pain as i actually want to get out there. Whatever it is, its completely drained me

Hope you feel better soon. Don't make the mistake of thinking you are better and going out for a run before you are well enough to, it will only set you back even further"

Im listening to my body, its not often it wants to sleep as much as it does atm. Never thought id say im sick of sleeping but atm i really am

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Long day out in London yeaterday. Specifically supporting the runners running for the charity my girlfriend ran VLM for in 2016. I've pretty much lost my voice and got bruised hands! Not once did I wish I was running it, the heat was brutal.

Back on it tonight with a run through the fields planned as my commute home"

As a 1st time runner it was brutual and the water stations running out of water was a joke..

If it hadnt been for spectators more then the 750 DNF would of happened.

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By *utie91Woman  over a year ago

Hitchin

I’m back had to have a few weeks off the gym altogether, had too many work shifts and also been quite ill... now waiting for 2 surgeries rather than one

Anyway... just started back small... only managed 1km on treadmill (half jog half walk)

And 4km on bike. Gonna work this up abit over the few weeks hopefully

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By *om_HardlyMan  over a year ago

Exeter

It’s probably been said already in these threads but Parkrun has been fantastic getting people up and out to exercise in the great outdoors. It was a brilliant concept and works so well. I did my first 4 years ago and it has led to me completing 6 half marathons. I have lost a little weight, built some leg muscle and my confidence and general well being has improved. I haven’t become a total slave to or addict to running either especially in the winter but everyone finds there own level and a BIG WELL DONE to everyone on here who has found the motivation to get going and has broken through there own physical and mental barriers to finish a Parkrun

When I run at the Exeter, Killerton or Exmouth Parkruns on a Saturday morning I often look around and wonder if any of the runners are fellow Fabsters too!! Lol .......Devon Parkrunners reveal yourselves!!

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By *alking DisasterWoman  over a year ago

South Oxfordshire


"Long day out in London yeaterday. Specifically supporting the runners running for the charity my girlfriend ran VLM for in 2016. I've pretty much lost my voice and got bruised hands! Not once did I wish I was running it, the heat was brutal.

Back on it tonight with a run through the fields planned as my commute home

As a 1st time runner it was brutual and the water stations running out of water was a joke..

If it hadnt been for spectators more then the 750 DNF would of happened."

I can understand how frustrating that is. However, it is difficult for the organisers to plan for exactly how many bottles they need at each station - it is not practical to have 40,000 bottles at every water station. And yes, I have done a race on a blazing hot day where they ran out of water.

What does annoy me is that they give out full sized bottles of water which people only take one or two sips out of then throw away. There are alternatives.

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By *alking DisasterWoman  over a year ago

South Oxfordshire


"I’m back had to have a few weeks off the gym altogether, had too many work shifts and also been quite ill... now waiting for 2 surgeries rather than one

Anyway... just started back small... only managed 1km on treadmill (half jog half walk)

And 4km on bike. Gonna work this up abit over the few weeks hopefully "

Good luck for your surgeries.

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By *alking DisasterWoman  over a year ago

South Oxfordshire


"It’s probably been said already in these threads but Parkrun has been fantastic getting people up and out to exercise in the great outdoors. It was a brilliant concept and works so well. I did my first 4 years ago and it has led to me completing 6 half marathons. I have lost a little weight, built some leg muscle and my confidence and general well being has improved. I haven’t become a total slave to or addict to running either especially in the winter but everyone finds there own level and a BIG WELL DONE to everyone on here who has found the motivation to get going and has broken through there own physical and mental barriers to finish a Parkrun

When I run at the Exeter, Killerton or Exmouth Parkruns on a Saturday morning I often look around and wonder if any of the runners are fellow Fabsters too!! Lol .......Devon Parkrunners reveal yourselves!! "

parkrun - all one word and in lower case.

I've not done those parkruns, but I know the area slightly. I used to work in a hotel on Dartmoor.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Long day out in London yeaterday. Specifically supporting the runners running for the charity my girlfriend ran VLM for in 2016. I've pretty much lost my voice and got bruised hands! Not once did I wish I was running it, the heat was brutal.

Back on it tonight with a run through the fields planned as my commute home

As a 1st time runner it was brutual and the water stations running out of water was a joke..

If it hadnt been for spectators more then the 750 DNF would of happened."

I was at mile 17 just after a water station and that definitely didn't run out. I also went passed a water station at around mile 22, that hadnt ran out and even though the sweeper car had gone passed and the station was officially closed volunteers had stayed back to make sure the stragglers were okay.

There was the equivalent of 4.5 litres of water per runner on the course, if runners had listened to the advice of taking just one bottle there wouldn't have been an issue.

I've been at a race where water ran out early on and people were dropping like flies, I was also at Brighton last year and saw how distressed runners were when water had ran out. That simply wasn't happening on sunday and even the back markers passing me did not appeared to have had significant problems with a lack of water.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Done circuits this morning looking at going gym tonight.

Gutted I can't come on 5th but hopefully make June. If anyone wants to help me reach my target for my charity abseil please message I'll send you the link to pay straight into the charity. It's cash for kids in Liverpool x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It’s probably been said already in these threads but Parkrun has been fantastic getting people up and out to exercise in the great outdoors. It was a brilliant concept and works so well. I did my first 4 years ago and it has led to me completing 6 half marathons. I have lost a little weight, built some leg muscle and my confidence and general well being has improved. I haven’t become a total slave to or addict to running either especially in the winter but everyone finds there own level and a BIG WELL DONE to everyone on here who has found the motivation to get going and has broken through there own physical and mental barriers to finish a Parkrun

When I run at the Exeter, Killerton or Exmouth Parkruns on a Saturday morning I often look around and wonder if any of the runners are fellow Fabsters too!! Lol .......Devon Parkrunners reveal yourselves!!

parkrun - all one word and in lower case.

I've not done those parkruns, but I know the area slightly. I used to work in a hotel on Dartmoor."

I don't get up early enough for a parkrun (all one word, all lower case )

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By *itch and TwatCouple  over a year ago

Near Rushden Lakes


"Long day out in London yeaterday. Specifically supporting the runners running for the charity my girlfriend ran VLM for in 2016. I've pretty much lost my voice and got bruised hands! Not once did I wish I was running it, the heat was brutal.

Back on it tonight with a run through the fields planned as my commute home

As a 1st time runner it was brutual and the water stations running out of water was a joke..

If it hadnt been for spectators more then the 750 DNF would of happened.

I was at mile 17 just after a water station and that definitely didn't run out. I also went passed a water station at around mile 22, that hadnt ran out and even though the sweeper car had gone passed and the station was officially closed volunteers had stayed back to make sure the stragglers were okay.

There was the equivalent of 4.5 litres of water per runner on the course, if runners had listened to the advice of taking just one bottle there wouldn't have been an issue.

I've been at a race where water ran out early on and people were dropping like flies, I was also at Brighton last year and saw how distressed runners were when water had ran out. That simply wasn't happening on sunday and even the back markers passing me did not appeared to have had significant problems with a lack of water."

Hugh Brasher (the event coordinator) has said that 4.5 litres of water were available per runner, more than any other mass-participation event in the world, but water did run out at miles 8,9 and 10. I guess that’s when water was being used more for cooling than hydration and many runners in the middle of the field were starting to realise just how tough the day was going to be.

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By *DFL6828Man  over a year ago

Leicester

Its been a while since ive been in here and didnt realise there was a running group. Did a liot of running on the treadmill over the winter but decided to go and get a gos watch and go out on the road. Been now doing that for the past 12 weeks. Have started doing my do my local ParkRun once every couple of weeks. And am doing my first local 10k (29th)for about 6 or 7 years.. the goal at this point is to get round without stopping

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By *alking DisasterWoman  over a year ago

South Oxfordshire


"Its been a while since ive been in here and didnt realise there was a running group. Did a liot of running on the treadmill over the winter but decided to go and get a gos watch and go out on the road. Been now doing that for the past 12 weeks. Have started doing my do my local ParkRun once every couple of weeks. And am doing my first local 10k (29th)for about 6 or 7 years.. the goal at this point is to get round without stopping"

Welcome to the thread!

Just have one thing to say - parkrun, it's all one word in lower case...

Happy running

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Well that's the last time I forget my running kit and think oh fuck it, I'll go anyway.

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By *alking DisasterWoman  over a year ago

South Oxfordshire


"Well that's the last time I forget my running kit and think oh fuck it, I'll go anyway. "

It depends on what you forgot

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By *itch and TwatCouple  over a year ago

Near Rushden Lakes


"Well that's the last time I forget my running kit and think oh fuck it, I'll go anyway.

It depends on what you forgot "

Jock strap?

Ouch...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Bionic leg is just cheating..... I'm old enough to remember how fast Lee Majors could run

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By *ocbigMan  over a year ago

Birmingham


"Long day out in London yeaterday. Specifically supporting the runners running for the charity my girlfriend ran VLM for in 2016. I've pretty much lost my voice and got bruised hands! Not once did I wish I was running it, the heat was brutal.

Back on it tonight with a run through the fields planned as my commute home

As a 1st time runner it was brutual and the water stations running out of water was a joke..

If it hadnt been for spectators more then the 750 DNF would of happened.

I was at mile 17 just after a water station and that definitely didn't run out. I also went passed a water station at around mile 22, that hadnt ran out and even though the sweeper car had gone passed and the station was officially closed volunteers had stayed back to make sure the stragglers were okay.

There was the equivalent of 4.5 litres of water per runner on the course, if runners had listened to the advice of taking just one bottle there wouldn't have been an issue.

I've been at a race where water ran out early on and people were dropping like flies, I was also at Brighton last year and saw how distressed runners were when water had ran out. That simply wasn't happening on sunday and even the back markers passing me did not appeared to have had significant problems with a lack of water.

Hugh Brasher (the event coordinator) has said that 4.5 litres of water were available per runner, more than any other mass-participation event in the world, but water did run out at miles 8,9 and 10. I guess that’s when water was being used more for cooling than hydration and many runners in the middle of the field were starting to realise just how tough the day was going to be. "

One would hope it was used for cooling, 4.5l would be a potentially lethal amount to take in, hyponatremia very likely at that volume..drink to thirst people.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Todays run/jog.....the sun was shinning so slapped on the suncream as i got to the park it started raining and within 10 mins i was soaked, thankfully a dark t-shirt and no pervs around i was going to give up on the first circuit but decided to carry on, no personal bests but I still ran

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By *enuine Single GuyMan  over a year ago

Clitheroe


"Just checking in. Yesterday I went for a long walk with the dog.

Any advice for a sore hip. I did parkrun the other week think I jarred it running on the mud. It was sore for a couple of days then stopped but flared up yesterday. Not sure if it was the position I'd been in the night before or the walk. Should I carry on or rest ? Thanks on advance x "

Don’t run give it two weeks rest

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By *enuine Single GuyMan  over a year ago

Clitheroe


"Didn’t run last week sadly. But getting back on it this week.

Having a bit of a problem with really sore feet at the minute. Both feet, on the side about half way along. Anyone know what it might be? Is it a common running problem? Am I just getting too old?

Have you ever had your gait analysed? It might be that you overpronate, but are wearing neutral shoes.

I haven’t. And to be honest I didn’t know that was a thing. Where would I get my gait analysed?

In Peterborough there are two shops you can try Advanced Performance and Sweatshop. I've not used the first, but know people that have and they liked the shop. I've personally used the Sweatshop in Peterborough and found the staff nice and helpful. (I used to live locally and have done the Peterborough half twice).

I believe with both shops, gait analysis is free if you buy a pair of trainers from them. I'm not sure how much they charge if you don't.

Thanks for the info. I will get over there and see if they can sort me out.

Thank you for the help!!"

Be careful with sweatshop and running on a treadmill is a totally different way of running to road running. Sweatshop sold me some

Support trainers even though I’ve only worn neutral as they said I needed them. I did two 18 mile runs and was injured for 6 months

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By *alking DisasterWoman  over a year ago

South Oxfordshire


"Didn’t run last week sadly. But getting back on it this week.

Having a bit of a problem with really sore feet at the minute. Both feet, on the side about half way along. Anyone know what it might be? Is it a common running problem? Am I just getting too old?

Have you ever had your gait analysed? It might be that you overpronate, but are wearing neutral shoes.

I haven’t. And to be honest I didn’t know that was a thing. Where would I get my gait analysed?

In Peterborough there are two shops you can try Advanced Performance and Sweatshop. I've not used the first, but know people that have and they liked the shop. I've personally used the Sweatshop in Peterborough and found the staff nice and helpful. (I used to live locally and have done the Peterborough half twice).

I believe with both shops, gait analysis is free if you buy a pair of trainers from them. I'm not sure how much they charge if you don't.

Thanks for the info. I will get over there and see if they can sort me out.

Thank you for the help!!

Be careful with sweatshop and running on a treadmill is a totally different way of running to road running. Sweatshop sold me some

Support trainers even though I’ve only worn neutral as they said I needed them. I did two 18 mile runs and was injured for 6 months"

The only time I went there, they suggested the same type of shoe that I already had (not the newest version, but newer).

All gait analysis is done on a treadmill.

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By *elfastblondMan  over a year ago

Belfast


"Todays run/jog.....the sun was shinning so slapped on the suncream as i got to the park it started raining and within 10 mins i was soaked, thankfully a dark t-shirt and no pervs around i was going to give up on the first circuit but decided to carry on, no personal bests but I still ran "

Brilliant that you kept going!

I met a few others last night to finishformatt, set off in the sunshine so just shorts and t-shirt, just as we started out it rained, rained and rained some more, got back drenched!

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By *enuine Single GuyMan  over a year ago

Clitheroe

I had my gait assessed running on the road with the Physio watching behind and confirmed I’m neutral

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Todays run/jog.....the sun was shinning so slapped on the suncream as i got to the park it started raining and within 10 mins i was soaked, thankfully a dark t-shirt and no pervs around i was going to give up on the first circuit but decided to carry on, no personal bests but I still ran

Brilliant that you kept going!

I met a few others last night to finishformatt, set off in the sunshine so just shorts and t-shirt, just as we started out it rained, rained and rained some more, got back drenched!"

Had it continued raining all the way i probably would've just done the 1 circuit but it stopped....but i continuously ran 1 lap walked a bit on the 2nd.

Not much fun running in the rain especially as its gone cold again! I'm guessing thats our summer gone

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By *elfastblondMan  over a year ago

Belfast


"Todays run/jog.....the sun was shinning so slapped on the suncream as i got to the park it started raining and within 10 mins i was soaked, thankfully a dark t-shirt and no pervs around i was going to give up on the first circuit but decided to carry on, no personal bests but I still ran

Brilliant that you kept going!

I met a few others last night to finishformatt, set off in the sunshine so just shorts and t-shirt, just as we started out it rained, rained and rained some more, got back drenched!

Had it continued raining all the way i probably would've just done the 1 circuit but it stopped....but i continuously ran 1 lap walked a bit on the 2nd.

Not much fun running in the rain especially as its gone cold again! I'm guessing thats our summer gone "

It was bitterly cold. I hope summer isn't over!

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By *opsy RogersWoman  over a year ago

London

I’m regularly running 3-5k now, still hate it but a real treat this coming Sunday; a FCRC member and I are going to watch the sun come up while drinking coffee and then *possibly* run for a bit.

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By *alking DisasterWoman  over a year ago

South Oxfordshire


"I had my gait assessed running on the road with the Physio watching behind and confirmed I’m neutral"

Tbh, that's not the normal way. Most don't have access to a physio. That must have cost more than the trainers.

I think all the other experienced runners on here say the same - go to a sports shop. It's more accessible. You are the only person out of the hundreds (yes, literally) of runners I know that has had a problem.

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By *alking DisasterWoman  over a year ago

South Oxfordshire


"I’m regularly running 3-5k now, still hate it but a real treat this coming Sunday; a FCRC member and I are going to watch the sun come up while drinking coffee and then *possibly* run for a bit. "

Hope you both have a good time glad they are finally getting you out!

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By *alking DisasterWoman  over a year ago

South Oxfordshire


"Todays run/jog.....the sun was shinning so slapped on the suncream as i got to the park it started raining and within 10 mins i was soaked, thankfully a dark t-shirt and no pervs around i was going to give up on the first circuit but decided to carry on, no personal bests but I still ran

Brilliant that you kept going!

I met a few others last night to finishformatt, set off in the sunshine so just shorts and t-shirt, just as we started out it rained, rained and rained some more, got back drenched!"

Well done on the run - for a good cause.

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By *ocbigMan  over a year ago

Birmingham


"I had my gait assessed running on the road with the Physio watching behind and confirmed I’m neutral

Tbh, that's not the normal way. Most don't have access to a physio. That must have cost more than the trainers.

I think all the other experienced runners on here say the same - go to a sports shop. It's more accessible. You are the only person out of the hundreds (yes, literally) of runners I know that has had a problem."

all gait analysis is not created equal. As mentioned treadmill running is not real world running, but can show tendencies. Easy enough to get your own analysis, I pad/phone download an app, get filmed , use software to assess, poss consult a coach/ physio about results .

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By *ocbigMan  over a year ago

Birmingham

Dart fish is good, btw.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Long day out in London yeaterday. Specifically supporting the runners running for the charity my girlfriend ran VLM for in 2016. I've pretty much lost my voice and got bruised hands! Not once did I wish I was running it, the heat was brutal.

Back on it tonight with a run through the fields planned as my commute home

As a 1st time runner it was brutual and the water stations running out of water was a joke..

If it hadnt been for spectators more then the 750 DNF would of happened.

I was at mile 17 just after a water station and that definitely didn't run out. I also went passed a water station at around mile 22, that hadnt ran out and even though the sweeper car had gone passed and the station was officially closed volunteers had stayed back to make sure the stragglers were okay.

There was the equivalent of 4.5 litres of water per runner on the course, if runners had listened to the advice of taking just one bottle there wouldn't have been an issue.

I've been at a race where water ran out early on and people were dropping like flies, I was also at Brighton last year and saw how distressed runners were when water had ran out. That simply wasn't happening on sunday and even the back markers passing me did not appeared to have had significant problems with a lack of water.

Hugh Brasher (the event coordinator) has said that 4.5 litres of water were available per runner, more than any other mass-participation event in the world, but water did run out at miles 8,9 and 10. I guess that’s when water was being used more for cooling than hydration and many runners in the middle of the field were starting to realise just how tough the day was going to be.

One would hope it was used for cooling, 4.5l would be a potentially lethal amount to take in, hyponatremia very likely at that volume..drink to thirst people.

"

After running on Sunday i feel rightly placed to comment, there was not water at 8,9,10 from very early on for the mid runners, i am not fast a run in the 13 min/mile bracket, i think people taking to were under the instruction of the water stations further up had ran out. I ran past plenty of water stations that had packed up and even started sweeping up the bottles, of which i had to pick bottles out the gutter just to get water.

After all the emails that VMLM sent out about slowing pace etc, more water added. It seems them giving out bottles just to be sipped then thrown in the gutter just up the road explains where a lot of the water went. Also advice was to empty the bottle then throw it, this allows they to crush under foot rather than roll causing injury. All in all in was brutual out there with no water for miles, and i wasnt even the slowest.

The water is supplied by a sponsor (not bought) why have a limit? Just return the pallets of disused water to the sponsor. Lucazade in large 500ml bottles, i’m sure no one drank that much in one hit.. again they wont make small bottles of it as its not cost effective, so you end up with open bottles with a couple mouthfuls out, plus the stuff is awful when you are actually needing fluids.

I think VMLM were very lucky more people werent injured duevto lack of hydration, the spectators did amazing job of buying water or even bringing large jugs out of their houses to keep runners in water.

They have said that there will be an investigation into the water situation and will reply in a week or so.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

just uploaded the 10k app

Anybody doing this?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" just uploaded the 10k app

Anybody doing this? "

I am *waves frantically*

Using the 10k run app, its OK, not brilliant, but haven't looked around for any others. If you find a good one, please let me know

I'm on Week 5 run 2, should have done run 3 by now but long shifts have taken and destroyed my energy levels

So the couch has become my friend again

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" just uploaded the 10k app

Anybody doing this?

I am *waves frantically*

Using the 10k run app, its OK, not brilliant, but haven't looked around for any others. If you find a good one, please let me know

I'm on Week 5 run 2, should have done run 3 by now but long shifts have taken and destroyed my energy levels

So the couch has become my friend again "

*waves back *

It asked me if I'd already done c25k and put me at week 9, 4x10 mins run. I'll be starting tomorrow when i wake up from nights

I know what you mean about shifts, i do 12 hour days and nights i try and run on my in between days as well as my days off....still have to push myself need to get off the couch just go there after a run

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" just uploaded the 10k app

Anybody doing this?

I am *waves frantically*

Using the 10k run app, its OK, not brilliant, but haven't looked around for any others. If you find a good one, please let me know

I'm on Week 5 run 2, should have done run 3 by now but long shifts have taken and destroyed my energy levels

So the couch has become my friend again

*waves back *

It asked me if I'd already done c25k and put me at week 9, 4x10 mins run. I'll be starting tomorrow when i wake up from nights

I know what you mean about shifts, i do 12 hour days and nights i try and run on my in between days as well as my days off....still have to push myself need to get off the couch just go there after a run "

I do the same, but last three shifts have killed me, not literally as I wouldn't be typing this but haven't been this zombified in ages but another day off tomorrow, fresh start and I do plan to go out do some of this pug chasing

I started at week 5, as stupidly pulled some muscles a couple of weeks ago and had a few too many breaks in between. You seem to be doing amazingly , so best if luck and let us know how you get on x

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By *alking DisasterWoman  over a year ago

South Oxfordshire

Good luck both of you!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Good luck both of you!"

Thanks

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" just uploaded the 10k app

Anybody doing this?

I am *waves frantically*

Using the 10k run app, its OK, not brilliant, but haven't looked around for any others. If you find a good one, please let me know

I'm on Week 5 run 2, should have done run 3 by now but long shifts have taken and destroyed my energy levels

So the couch has become my friend again

*waves back *

It asked me if I'd already done c25k and put me at week 9, 4x10 mins run. I'll be starting tomorrow when i wake up from nights

I know what you mean about shifts, i do 12 hour days and nights i try and run on my in between days as well as my days off....still have to push myself need to get off the couch just go there after a run

I do the same, but last three shifts have killed me, not literally as I wouldn't be typing this but haven't been this zombified in ages but another day off tomorrow, fresh start and I do plan to go out do some of this pug chasing

I started at week 5, as stupidly pulled some muscles a couple of weeks ago and had a few too many breaks in between. You seem to be doing amazingly , so best if luck and let us know how you get on x"

You're doing amazing too let me know how you get on too

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

so glad to see the rain today it was supposed to be my run day today but my nipples are sore i think it happened when i ran in the rain on wed, they were stuck out and cold all through my run but i didn't realise they're not rubbed raw just really tender and hurt when touched as i finished work this morning i shall be having a pj day and run tomorrow

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" so glad to see the rain today it was supposed to be my run day today but my nipples are sore i think it happened when i ran in the rain on wed, they were stuck out and cold all through my run but i didn't realise they're not rubbed raw just really tender and hurt when touched as i finished work this morning i shall be having a pj day and run tomorrow "

Joggers nipple Ouch!

I have to confess something.... I didn't go out either

But first thing tomorrow morning before I go to work

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By *itch and TwatCouple  over a year ago

Near Rushden Lakes


" so glad to see the rain today it was supposed to be my run day today but my nipples are sore i think it happened when i ran in the rain on wed, they were stuck out and cold all through my run but i didn't realise they're not rubbed raw just really tender and hurt when touched as i finished work this morning i shall be having a pj day and run tomorrow "

It is a horrible feeling- I’ve seen runners with blood streaming down their tops finishing races. Vaseline worked for me (before running)...

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By *alking DisasterWoman  over a year ago

South Oxfordshire


" so glad to see the rain today it was supposed to be my run day today but my nipples are sore i think it happened when i ran in the rain on wed, they were stuck out and cold all through my run but i didn't realise they're not rubbed raw just really tender and hurt when touched as i finished work this morning i shall be having a pj day and run tomorrow

It is a horrible feeling- I’ve seen runners with blood streaming down their tops finishing races. Vaseline worked for me (before running)..."

I was about to say Vaseline too. I think you can get nipple protectors too.

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By *elfastblondMan  over a year ago

Belfast


" so glad to see the rain today it was supposed to be my run day today but my nipples are sore i think it happened when i ran in the rain on wed, they were stuck out and cold all through my run but i didn't realise they're not rubbed raw just really tender and hurt when touched as i finished work this morning i shall be having a pj day and run tomorrow

It is a horrible feeling- I’ve seen runners with blood streaming down their tops finishing races. Vaseline worked for me (before running)...

I was about to say Vaseline too. I think you can get nipple protectors too."

I've tried plasters (sweat and they fall off, the plasters that is!), tried Vaseline (instead of blood stains have greasy nipple stains), have been told about corn plasters, i need something as I've constantly sore nips!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Mine aren't rubbed sore, they feel bruised, as if someone has pinched them really hard and they're still tender

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

did 7km last night but my calf muscles felt very very tight, almost like they were about to cramp up, from about 100 yards in and all the way round - hence my usual 'slow shuffle' gait must have looked even slower and shufflier than normal. Managed to get round in 6.30 mins/km without dying, and I can just about walk today, so all good

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By *elfastblondMan  over a year ago

Belfast


"Mine aren't rubbed sore, they feel bruised, as if someone has pinched them really hard and they're still tender "

Sounds like they need a bit of TLC

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Mine aren't rubbed sore, they feel bruised, as if someone has pinched them really hard and they're still tender

Sounds like they need a bit of TLC"

No-oneis touching them too painful

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I have been working on running a 10 min mile the last 2 weeks. Finally achieved it. Having real problems with a sore hip though. I've booked in to see a physio.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I have been working on running a 10 min mile the last 2 weeks. Finally achieved it. Having real problems with a sore hip though. I've booked in to see a physio. "

Well done for the achievement! but sorry to hear about your hip , hope you get better soon x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I did it! I got my lazy butt outside as planned and did week 5, run 3, but as expected didn't do as well as the last run

4.43km need to get my fitness level back up to how it was two weeks ago

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By *elfastblondMan  over a year ago

Belfast


"I did it! I got my lazy butt outside as planned and did week 5, run 3, but as expected didn't do as well as the last run

4.43km need to get my fitness level back up to how it was two weeks ago "

Well done for getting out and doing it, that's the only way you will get you're fitness back

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Anyone doing parkrun this morning. I went to bed at 2 and I'm awake thinking about doing it then sleep later ?

My nipples don't hurt/rub does this mean I'm not working hard enough or not got big enough boobs

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By *elfastblondMan  over a year ago

Belfast


"Anyone doing parkrun this morning. I went to bed at 2 and I'm awake thinking about doing it then sleep later ?

My nipples don't hurt/rub does this mean I'm not working hard enough or not got big enough boobs "

I can't do parkrun this morning as I'm doing a charity 10k at the ad time.

I have seen your boobs but I'm sure they just fine, probably got the right bra!

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By *itch and TwatCouple  over a year ago

Near Rushden Lakes


"Anyone doing parkrun this morning. I went to bed at 2 and I'm awake thinking about doing it then sleep later ?

My nipples don't hurt/rub does this mean I'm not working hard enough or not got big enough boobs "

If you let us have a look, we’ll let you know if they’re big enough

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By *elfastblondMan  over a year ago

Belfast


"Anyone doing parkrun this morning. I went to bed at 2 and I'm awake thinking about doing it then sleep later ?

My nipples don't hurt/rub does this mean I'm not working hard enough or not got big enough boobs

I can't do parkrun this morning as I'm doing a charity 10k at the ad time.

I have seen your boobs but I'm sure they just fine, probably got the right bra!"

I meant, I haven't seen them!

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By *alking DisasterWoman  over a year ago

South Oxfordshire


"Anyone doing parkrun this morning. I went to bed at 2 and I'm awake thinking about doing it then sleep later ?

My nipples don't hurt/rub does this mean I'm not working hard enough or not got big enough boobs "

Mine have never rubbed in the 8-10 years I've been running. Take that as you will...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Anyone doing parkrun this morning. I went to bed at 2 and I'm awake thinking about doing it then sleep later ?

My nipples don't hurt/rub does this mean I'm not working hard enough or not got big enough boobs "

I'm guessing that if men get it then it doesn't matter the size of your boobs

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Went for a run this morning, too late for the parkrun but still out

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Ran my local parkrun which isn't my regular one. Dropped my phone in the first few hundred metres, it's not fun stopping and bending over to pick something up on a path only a car's width amd with 250 tightly packed runners behind you!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I did it but had an ice cream this afternoon. I'm going circuits tomorrow tho x

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By *alking DisasterWoman  over a year ago

South Oxfordshire


"Went for a run this morning, too late for the parkrun but still out "

Well done

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

No parkrun for me again this week but 8 Miles in the pouring rain this morning .... things we do for ‘fun’

MK Marathon next weekend - anyone here running ?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Went for a run this morning, too late for the parkrun but still out "

Did you try the 10k app out??

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By *alking DisasterWoman  over a year ago

South Oxfordshire


"No parkrun for me again this week but 8 Miles in the pouring rain this morning .... things we do for ‘fun’

MK Marathon next weekend - anyone here running ?"

No, but good luck.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Went for a run this morning, too late for the parkrun but still out

Did you try the 10k app out?? "

Yes and turned her off lol she wanted me to run before I was ready I haven't run continuously for a while

Still did 6.8k but no pb's .....thats why I just put that I'd run

How did your run go?

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By *alking DisasterWoman  over a year ago

South Oxfordshire


"Went for a run this morning, too late for the parkrun but still out

Did you try the 10k app out??

Yes and turned her off lol she wanted me to run before I was ready I haven't run continuously for a while

Still did 6.8k but no pb's .....thats why I just put that I'd run

How did your run go? "

Don't worry about not getting pb's. You are now running longer, so you will run slower (and it will take a while for your body to get used to it!)

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Went for a run this morning, too late for the parkrun but still out

Did you try the 10k app out??

Yes and turned her off lol she wanted me to run before I was ready I haven't run continuously for a while

Still did 6.8k but no pb's .....thats why I just put that I'd run

How did your run go? "

Crap lol, but new week new start, determined to get back on track

I'm not a fan of the app either , but need someone to tell me what to do!

Well done for getting out today and you're still going further than I am, keep at it x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"No parkrun for me again this week but 8 Miles in the pouring rain this morning .... things we do for ‘fun’

MK Marathon next weekend - anyone here running ?"

Ran the half last year amd enoted it. Might come up amd watch it as not running the full or the half this year

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Did parkrun yesterday my results still arent in, I hope they scanned it properly.

I know I was slower coz my hip was sore but still nice to know. I'm going circuits this morning burn off the ice cream I had yesterday.

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By *alking DisasterWoman  over a year ago

South Oxfordshire


"Did parkrun yesterday my results still arent in, I hope they scanned it properly.

I know I was slower coz my hip was sore but still nice to know. I'm going circuits this morning burn off the ice cream I had yesterday. "

Have you checked the results page on their local parkrun page? I've had a quick look at the all events results page and it looks like all the results are in. If you are missing, you can contact the office and they'll add you in.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Did parkrun yesterday my results still arent in, I hope they scanned it properly.

I know I was slower coz my hip was sore but still nice to know. I'm going circuits this morning burn off the ice cream I had yesterday.

Have you checked the results page on their local parkrun page? I've had a quick look at the all events results page and it looks like all the results are in. If you are missing, you can contact the office and they'll add you in."

yes if your number didn't scan there will be an "unknown" in the result page and the RD shold be able to easily rectify it if you email them

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By *elfastblondMan  over a year ago

Belfast


"Did parkrun yesterday my results still arent in, I hope they scanned it properly.

I know I was slower coz my hip was sore but still nice to know. I'm going circuits this morning burn off the ice cream I had yesterday. "

It's always good to keep a mental note of your position as they can make mistakes, I hope you get it sorted

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By *arryJones1975Man  over a year ago

ely

No running again for me but hoping for a long cycle ride this afternoon.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Did parkrun yesterday my results still arent in, I hope they scanned it properly.

I know I was slower coz my hip was sore but still nice to know. I'm going circuits this morning burn off the ice cream I had yesterday.

Have you checked the results page on their local parkrun page? I've had a quick look at the all events results page and it looks like all the results are in. If you are missing, you can contact the office and they'll add you in."

I haven't didn't know you could do that last time I had an email. I will look into thank you x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Rest week this week so only 14 miles today.

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By *opsy RogersWoman  over a year ago

London


"Did parkrun yesterday my results still arent in, I hope they scanned it properly.

I know I was slower coz my hip was sore but still nice to know. I'm going circuits this morning burn off the ice cream I had yesterday.

Have you checked the results page on their local parkrun page? I've had a quick look at the all events results page and it looks like all the results are in. If you are missing, you can contact the office and they'll add you in.

I haven't didn't know you could do that last time I had an email. I will look into thank you x "

There’s also a unique number on the token

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By *opsy RogersWoman  over a year ago

London

An enforced six day rest for me. Rain, rain (I do not run in rain) club visits and CBA resulted in a PB today of 5.3k in 30 minutes.

Happy Tops.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"An enforced six day rest for me. Rain, rain (I do not run in rain) club visits and CBA resulted in a PB today of 5.3k in 30 minutes.

Happy Tops. "

Top work

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By *opsy RogersWoman  over a year ago

London


"An enforced six day rest for me. Rain, rain (I do not run in rain) club visits and CBA resulted in a PB today of 5.3k in 30 minutes.

Happy Tops.

Top work "

Ta. I’m on a park bench enjoying the sight of spring birds and then I’m gokng to do a quick jog up an incline before my favourite sprint downhill all the way home.

That should get my lungs stretched and I usually get some admiring glances that I like.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Did parkrun yesterday my results still arent in, I hope they scanned it properly.

I know I was slower coz my hip was sore but still nice to know. I'm going circuits this morning burn off the ice cream I had yesterday.

Have you checked the results page on their local parkrun page? I've had a quick look at the all events results page and it looks like all the results are in. If you are missing, you can contact the office and they'll add you in.

I haven't didn't know you could do that last time I had an email. I will look into thank you x

There’s also a unique number on the token "

I was 26th out of 47, PB 0f 32 mins but I usually go round the roundabout but this time we went the other way so maybe nearer 33 still a PB

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By *alking DisasterWoman  over a year ago

South Oxfordshire


"An enforced six day rest for me. Rain, rain (I do not run in rain) club visits and CBA resulted in a PB today of 5.3k in 30 minutes.

Happy Tops. "

Well done! That's fantastic!

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By *alking DisasterWoman  over a year ago

South Oxfordshire


"Did parkrun yesterday my results still arent in, I hope they scanned it properly.

I know I was slower coz my hip was sore but still nice to know. I'm going circuits this morning burn off the ice cream I had yesterday.

Have you checked the results page on their local parkrun page? I've had a quick look at the all events results page and it looks like all the results are in. If you are missing, you can contact the office and they'll add you in.

I haven't didn't know you could do that last time I had an email. I will look into thank you x

There’s also a unique number on the token

I was 26th out of 47, PB 0f 32 mins but I usually go round the roundabout but this time we went the other way so maybe nearer 33 still a PB "

Any alternative routes are also measured to 5k, so it's still a pb!

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By *DFL6828Man  over a year ago

Leicester

Did my first 10k today for about 20 years.. got round in 1H 2m 16s. So now I now have my Base line. Going to cuthe back distance as I have a slight achellies strain befor i step it up as my next 1 I have booked in is my local Half in October

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By *alking DisasterWoman  over a year ago

South Oxfordshire


"Did my first 10k today for about 20 years.. got round in 1H 2m 16s. So now I now have my Base line. Going to cuthe back distance as I have a slight achellies strain befor i step it up as my next 1 I have booked in is my local Half in October"

Well done! That's a fantastic time and a really good baseline.

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By *arryJones1975Man  over a year ago

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Arghhh according to Strava I have not ran 5k in over a month.

Guess who is going to struggle on Saturday

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