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Do you believe in karma?
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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According to the OED the definition of karma is (in Hinduism and Buddhism) the sum of a persons actions in this and previous states of existence, viewed as deciding their fate in future existences..
My thoughts about it were always a bit ambivalent but as the now ex wife of a man who used his fists to settle arguements, and who kept me fear of him for years.. i was financially and domestically abused and had to also protect my son from his wrath..
So imagine how i felt when a mutual friend told me he had been diagnosed with Motor Neurone disease.. well actually i felt nothing but my son said he knew karma would pay 'that man a visit some day' .. out of the mouths of babes |
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No, I don't believe in karma.
It doesn't sit well with me that a child could be born into a life of suffering because their previous lives were bad in some way. Charlie Gard and Alfie Evans must have done some bad stuff in previous incarnations.
Also there are plenty of people who do terrible things and live a life of luxury and apparent happiness.
It doesn't add up in my opinion
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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No. If I did I would not believe it's instant. The teachings, as I understand them, are that karma affects your next life and you learn from that before moving on. You might repeat lessons or have new ones.
As to babies with devastating illnesses, they live short lives and ascend to their next life quickly. A faster route to Nirvana than those of us struggling through our lessons. My Buddhist nun described it as them visiting to teach us something. It helped me after my baby son died.
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By (user no longer on site)
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No I don't believe in Karma. As another person has said, there are some truly evil people in this world yet they live happy lives. Meanwhile the nicest of people struggle and suffer. |
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"No. If I did I would not believe it's instant. The teachings, as I understand them, are that karma affects your next life and you learn from that before moving on. You might repeat lessons or have new ones.
As to babies with devastating illnesses, they live short lives and ascend to their next life quickly. A faster route to Nirvana than those of us struggling through our lessons. My Buddhist nun described it as them visiting to teach us something. It helped me after my baby son died.
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That's how I understand it too.
I'm glad it helped you. X |
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"According to the OED the definition of karma is (in Hinduism and Buddhism) the sum of a persons actions in this and previous states of existence, viewed as deciding their fate in future existences..
My thoughts about it were always a bit ambivalent but as the now ex wife of a man who used his fists to settle arguements, and who kept me fear of him for years.. i was financially and domestically abused and had to also protect my son from his wrath..
So imagine how i felt when a mutual friend told me he had been diagnosed with Motor Neurone disease.. well actually i felt nothing but my son said he knew karma would pay 'that man a visit some day' .. out of the mouths of babes"
If karma is as you describe it, why did karma put you in an abusive marriage? |
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"Oh yes I beleive in karma,
what does round comes round
and did you know " karma has no deadline" "
This, Karma does seem to miss quite a few but I've met too many with similar stories to the OP to doubt it |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"No, I don't believe in karma.
It doesn't sit well with me that a child could be born into a life of suffering because their previous lives were bad in some way. Charlie Gard and Alfie Evans must have done some bad stuff in previous incarnations.
Also there are plenty of people who do terrible things and live a life of luxury and apparent happiness.
It doesn't add up in my opinion
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That about sums it up for me |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"According to the OED the definition of karma is (in Hinduism and Buddhism) the sum of a persons actions in this and previous states of existence, viewed as deciding their fate in future existences..
My thoughts about it were always a bit ambivalent but as the now ex wife of a man who used his fists to settle arguements, and who kept me fear of him for years.. i was financially and domestically abused and had to also protect my son from his wrath..
So imagine how i felt when a mutual friend told me he had been diagnosed with Motor Neurone disease.. well actually i felt nothing but my son said he knew karma would pay 'that man a visit some day' .. out of the mouths of babes" oh yesssss definately.a few people who have hurt me have had karma blessed upon them.you can't go through life treating people like shit and expect to get away with it. |
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In local paper about a year ago a car thief stole somebody’s car police chased him the thief crashed the car and ended up in a wheelchair the rest of his life and his family tried to get compensation from Cleveland police unbelievable still was a satisfying out come hope the blokes got his insurance pay out for his car |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"According to the OED the definition of karma is (in Hinduism and Buddhism) the sum of a persons actions in this and previous states of existence, viewed as deciding their fate in future existences..
My thoughts about it were always a bit ambivalent but as the now ex wife of a man who used his fists to settle arguements, and who kept me fear of him for years.. i was financially and domestically abused and had to also protect my son from his wrath..
So imagine how i felt when a mutual friend told me he had been diagnosed with Motor Neurone disease.. well actually i felt nothing but my son said he knew karma would pay 'that man a visit some day' .. out of the mouths of babes
If karma is as you describe it, why did karma put you in an abusive marriage?"
Thats not my description..
Thats from the OED |
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No I don't believe in Karma. Whilst it's good to see some utter shitbag get their comeuppance it doesn't always happen, yet some of the nicest people have awful things happen to them. Life is all just to chance. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Yes I believe in it. Yes there are scumbags who glide through life without a care in the world and they hurt people. Whether it’s mentally or physically. But things catch up with people in the end. They either die young or end up old and lonely with no one giving a shit about them. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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No I don't.
Look at anyone's life long enough and you'll generally see peaks and troughs.
Maybe we notice the pitfalls of those who have wronged us more intently?
Life's chaotic and doesn't go the way we always want. All we can do is steer it as best we can.
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"According to the OED the definition of karma is (in Hinduism and Buddhism) the sum of a persons actions in this and previous states of existence, viewed as deciding their fate in future existences..
My thoughts about it were always a bit ambivalent but as the now ex wife of a man who used his fists to settle arguements, and who kept me fear of him for years.. i was financially and domestically abused and had to also protect my son from his wrath..
So imagine how i felt when a mutual friend told me he had been diagnosed with Motor Neurone disease.. well actually i felt nothing but my son said he knew karma would pay 'that man a visit some day' .. out of the mouths of babes
If karma is as you describe it, why did karma put you in an abusive marriage?
Thats not my description..
Thats from the OED"
Also i dont say i believe in it per se, i was asking if anyone else did |
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"According to the OED the definition of karma is (in Hinduism and Buddhism) the sum of a persons actions in this and previous states of existence, viewed as deciding their fate in future existences..
My thoughts about it were always a bit ambivalent but as the now ex wife of a man who used his fists to settle arguements, and who kept me fear of him for years.. i was financially and domestically abused and had to also protect my son from his wrath..
So imagine how i felt when a mutual friend told me he had been diagnosed with Motor Neurone disease.. well actually i felt nothing but my son said he knew karma would pay 'that man a visit some day' .. out of the mouths of babes
If karma is as you describe it, why did karma put you in an abusive marriage?
Thats not my description..
Thats from the OED"
Ok, if it's as the OED describes it, what was karmas purpose for you? Do you or your son feel you'd done something bad in this or a previous life?
I just think we tend to think of karma as applying to other people. |
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"According to the OED the definition of karma is (in Hinduism and Buddhism) the sum of a persons actions in this and previous states of existence, viewed as deciding their fate in future existences..
My thoughts about it were always a bit ambivalent but as the now ex wife of a man who used his fists to settle arguements, and who kept me fear of him for years.. i was financially and domestically abused and had to also protect my son from his wrath..
So imagine how i felt when a mutual friend told me he had been diagnosed with Motor Neurone disease.. well actually i felt nothing but my son said he knew karma would pay 'that man a visit some day' .. out of the mouths of babes
If karma is as you describe it, why did karma put you in an abusive marriage?
Thats not my description..
Thats from the OED
Also i dont say i believe in it per se, i was asking if anyone else did "
Ok. Ignore my post above then |
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My bullying ex husband died a painful death ten years ago ... he was an alcoholic ... also someone who controlled me in a relationship for far too long is recovering from throat cancer and the second husband a gambler had a heart attack a few years back .... he stole from me etc etc to find the addiction
so yep I believe in Karma what you out out you receive back ..... Law of Attraction too |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I'm hoping it exists. But too many good people die young so I'm not so sure.
If it does exist I should be living a charmed life
It's currently missed someone that really needs a visit from it, someone that continues to treat people like shit and more and more stories come out about him but he's on his own has no real friends and because of the way he treats woman they never stay around long so maybe he is getting karma that way as when his parents get to a age he will be left with no one.
But then wishing bad karma on someone is surely a way to get bad karma yourself? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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No i don’t.
The man who cheated me found a girlfriend 4 months after i dumped him and is now engaged to her. I’m still single and seem to choose emotionally unavailable men.
I must have been a cunt at some point in my life. |
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By *ynecplCouple
over a year ago
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I think possibly the best word for seeing something happen to somebody else in this life is Schadenfreude.
Definitely not Karma which relates to the next life as far as I understand it. |
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"I believe that energy has to be balanced so one way or the other at some point, it will. As above, so below type of thing. "
I believe that too. I think your bad deeds, thoughts, words affect your "self". That doesn't mean bad things happen to you in the form of illness etc. I don't think the universe deals in revenge. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Completely agree with it. Bad karma only finds its way to where there’s bad vibes.
We see it all the time, bad thinks happen to had people. "
Not true. I don't class myself as a bad person. I've always cared for others sacrificing my own needs for them. I've worked in a caring role most of my life. But I've lost my sister, Mum and dad all at young ages. I gave up my whole life style (job,house, area I lived in, moved from friends) to look after a family member.
So am I a bad Person if bad things only happen to bad people?? |
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By *w214Couple
over a year ago
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If Karma does exist, then surely spending time wishing ill on others, regardless if they deserve it in your eyes, will condem you to be a figure of hate in someone else's eyes in the next life. Perhaps in order to be that hate figure, you have to be the wife eater, baby shaker or general twat. If you believe in the principles of Karma then you shouldn't be carrying hate, it's not a virtue pick'n'mix. |
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But then wishing bad karma on someone is surely a way to get bad karma yourself?
A point many seem to be missing."
In fact, it might come back to bite you on the bum more than you sent. So don’t. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"My bullying ex husband died a painful death ten years ago ... he was an alcoholic ... also someone who controlled me in a relationship for far too long is recovering from throat cancer and the second husband a gambler had a heart attack a few years back .... he stole from me etc etc to find the addiction
so yep I believe in Karma what you out out you receive back ..... Law of Attraction too "
Oh wow you are an Angel |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Hell yeah, Sunderland beating Newcastle 6 derby games in a row and having to listen to all the piss taking from my work mates. Yesterday's relegation into league one was Karma. Work can't come quick enough for me tomorrow |
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By (user no longer on site)
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But then wishing bad karma on someone is surely a way to get bad karma yourself?
A point many seem to be missing.
In fact, it might come back to bite you on the bum more than you sent. So don’t. "
What you send out comes back times three so yes be careful x Amelia x |
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By (user no longer on site)
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But then wishing bad karma on someone is surely a way to get bad karma yourself?
A point many seem to be missing.
In fact, it might come back to bite you on the bum more than you sent. So don’t.
What you send out comes back times three so yes be careful x Amelia x"
Seriously Amelia? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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But then wishing bad karma on someone is surely a way to get bad karma yourself?
A point many seem to be missing.
In fact, it might come back to bite you on the bum more than you sent. So don’t.
What you send out comes back times three so yes be careful x Amelia x
Seriously Amelia? "
Yes I seriously believe this |
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By (user no longer on site)
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But then wishing bad karma on someone is surely a way to get bad karma yourself?
A point many seem to be missing.
In fact, it might come back to bite you on the bum more than you sent. So don’t.
What you send out comes back times three so yes be careful x Amelia x
Seriously Amelia?
Yes I seriously believe this "
Okay then |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"I think possibly the best word for seeing something happen to somebody else in this life is Schadenfreude.
Definitely not Karma which relates to the next life as far as I understand it. "
Exactly! |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"Certain people I can happily say deserve karma "
Karma is cause and effect but applied to the next life. That applies to good and bad actions (causes).
As I stated above, if I believed in it I couldn't believe it's instant (this lifetime). I can believe in cause and effect that is immediate and longer-term across a lifetime but I wouldn't call it karma.
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