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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Now I'm far from mocking this bloke.. I noticed him last night and he has a bloody obvious speech impediment.
Now is this the right job for him?
Your thoughts? |
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All I can say to this is ‘biscuit’ I’m glad the girl the found to present with Tourette’s syndrome ‘cat’ had some control but the odd ‘fuck’ may have added a little humour.
On the whole it can’t be a bad thing just sad the some of the TV channels make entertainment out of people issues. |
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"I think that's the point. Channel 4 are promoting acceptance and understanding of disability and I think it's great.
Why shouldn't he do it? "
I'm far from saying he shouldn't do it and I'm all for what you said...but tbh he was not easy on the ear...which I thought was the main part of a announcers job.
But that's why I said your thoughts. |
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I think it’s good to get people with disabilities into the public eye and just doing every job possible.
Much worse is employing children’s TV presenters who can’t stop shouting and who treat every banal occurrence like it’s the announcement of world peace. |
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"I think that's the point. Channel 4 are promoting acceptance and understanding of disability and I think it's great.
Why shouldn't he do it?
I'm far from saying he shouldn't do it and I'm all for what you said...but tbh he was not easy on the ear...which I thought was the main part of a announcers job.
But that's why I said your thoughts."
Is it uneasy on the ear because we aren't used to hearing a voice like that? It's not difficult to understand what he's saying. I think it's a good move.
It isn't that long since regional accents were banned from telly. |
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"Now I'm far from mocking this bloke.. I noticed him last night and he has a bloody obvious speech impediment.
Now is this the right job for him?
Your thoughts?"
Why wouldn't it be the right job for him, apart from not being easy in your ear?
Should we hide away those with d speech impediments for fear that you might hear them or cause you to listen a little more closely to what is being said? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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He's providing inspiration for people with speech impediments everywhere.
Like the first black footballers he may have to take a bit of stick but he's paving the way for others to follow.
Good on Channel 4! |
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"I think that's the point. Channel 4 are promoting acceptance and understanding of disability and I think it's great.
Why shouldn't he do it?
I'm far from saying he shouldn't do it and I'm all for what you said...but tbh he was not easy on the ear...which I thought was the main part of a announcers job.
But that's why I said your thoughts.
Is it uneasy on the ear because we aren't used to hearing a voice like that? It's not difficult to understand what he's saying. I think it's a good move.
It isn't that long since regional accents were banned from telly."
Yeah I get that and I'm old enough to remember when they all talked in clipped tones...until that bugger who just live up the road from me got the announcers job on big brother 
Maybe your right on its just a voice I'm not used to hearing.
But had does come across like a bad X factor auditionist and I'm trying to view the panels reaction.
I must be the grumpy Simon Cowell on this one eh |
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"I think that's the point. Channel 4 are promoting acceptance and understanding of disability and I think it's great.
Why shouldn't he do it?
I'm far from saying he shouldn't do it and I'm all for what you said...but tbh he was not easy on the ear...which I thought was the main part of a announcers job.
But that's why I said your thoughts.
Is it uneasy on the ear because we aren't used to hearing a voice like that? It's not difficult to understand what he's saying. I think it's a good move.
It isn't that long since regional accents were banned from telly.
Yeah I get that and I'm old enough to remember when they all talked in clipped tones...until that bugger who just live up the road from me got the announcers job on big brother
Maybe your right on its just a voice I'm not used to hearing.
But had does come across like a bad X factor auditionist and I'm trying to view the panels reaction.
I must be the grumpy Simon Cowell on this one eh "
Lol. I've heard other people say it's not easy on their ears. I don't think that's a bad thing to say I find e.g. Sarah Millican difficult to listen to because her voice sounds too high pitched for my ears as if she's in a constant state of agitation. |
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"I think that's the point. Channel 4 are promoting acceptance and understanding of disability and I think it's great.
Why shouldn't he do it?
I'm far from saying he shouldn't do it and I'm all for what you said...but tbh he was not easy on the ear...which I thought was the main part of a announcers job.
But that's why I said your thoughts.
Is it uneasy on the ear because we aren't used to hearing a voice like that? It's not difficult to understand what he's saying. I think it's a good move.
It isn't that long since regional accents were banned from telly.
Yeah I get that and I'm old enough to remember when they all talked in clipped tones...until that bugger who just live up the road from me got the announcers job on big brother
Maybe your right on its just a voice I'm not used to hearing.
But had does come across like a bad X factor auditionist and I'm trying to view the panels reaction.
I must be the grumpy Simon Cowell on this one eh
Lol. I've heard other people say it's not easy on their ears. I don't think that's a bad thing to say I find e.g. Sarah Millican difficult to listen to because her voice sounds too high pitched for my ears as if she's in a constant state of agitation."
But do you question whether she should be a comedian based in the fact you don't like her voice? |
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"I think that's the point. Channel 4 are promoting acceptance and understanding of disability and I think it's great.
Why shouldn't he do it?
I'm far from saying he shouldn't do it and I'm all for what you said...but tbh he was not easy on the ear...which I thought was the main part of a announcers job.
But that's why I said your thoughts.
Is it uneasy on the ear because we aren't used to hearing a voice like that? It's not difficult to understand what he's saying. I think it's a good move.
It isn't that long since regional accents were banned from telly.
Yeah I get that and I'm old enough to remember when they all talked in clipped tones...until that bugger who just live up the road from me got the announcers job on big brother
Maybe your right on its just a voice I'm not used to hearing.
But had does come across like a bad X factor auditionist and I'm trying to view the panels reaction.
I must be the grumpy Simon Cowell on this one eh
Lol. I've heard other people say it's not easy on their ears. I don't think that's a bad thing to say I find e.g. Sarah Millican difficult to listen to because her voice sounds too high pitched for my ears as if she's in a constant state of agitation.
But do you question whether she should be a comedian based in the fact you don't like her voice? "
No, I base that on the content of her show. |
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This is the 21st century ... yes people do have speach impediments .. we dont put them in institutions and segregate anymore ...
Why shouldn't he be a broadcaster.
Trevor mcdonald is a black newsreader .. shock horror .
Disabled athletes win medals ....take a look in the mirror OP .. what do you see |
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"Now I'm far from mocking this bloke.. I noticed him last night and he has a bloody obvious speech impediment.
Now is this the right job for him?
Your thoughts?"
Here is where you question if he should have the job he does..... |
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"I think that's the point. Channel 4 are promoting acceptance and understanding of disability and I think it's great.
Why shouldn't he do it?
I'm far from saying he shouldn't do it and I'm all for what you said...but tbh he was not easy on the ear...which I thought was the main part of a announcers job.
But that's why I said your thoughts."
I'll concede this point as you do say that your aren't saying he shouldn't do it, although you do claim he isn't easy on the ear.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"That is the point ..they also have an announcer with a strong Caribbean accent too "
How can you compare a strong Carribbean accent to a speech impediment?  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Now I'm far from mocking this bloke.. I noticed him last night and he has a bloody obvious speech impediment.
Now is this the right job for him?
Your thoughts?"
My thoughts are it shows a world of equality and humanity. Good on channel 4. And good on him imagine how much guts that's taken him.  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Now I'm far from mocking this bloke.. I noticed him last night and he has a bloody obvious speech impediment.
Now is this the right job for him?
Your thoughts?
Here is where you question if he should have the job he does..... "
Where's does it say I said he shouldn't? |
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"Now I'm far from mocking this bloke.. I noticed him last night and he has a bloody obvious speech impediment.
Now is this the right job for him?
Your thoughts?
Here is where you question if he should have the job he does.....
Where's does it say I said he shouldn't? "
Maybe read the bit I said before you quoted it! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It's the right job because he got the job.Like the weather girl with one arm.Good luck to them.Its not a challenge for them but can be challenging for those watching or listening. |
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"I think that's the point. Channel 4 are promoting acceptance and understanding of disability and I think it's great.
Why shouldn't he do it?
I'm far from saying he shouldn't do it and I'm all for what you said...but tbh he was not easy on the ear...which I thought was the main part of a announcers job.
But that's why I said your thoughts.
I'll concede this point as you do say that your aren't saying he shouldn't do it, although you do claim he isn't easy on the ear.
I'm nothing if not big enough to admit when I get something wrong "
Fair enough
I'm far from body or any other shaming.
But I did question in my mind if it was the right job for him....that is why I asked for thoughts on this.
So apologies if anyone thinks I was being bigoted as that is not what I'm about. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"That is the point ..they also have an announcer with a strong Caribbean accent too
How can you compare a strong Carribbean accent to a speech impediment? "
I am not.. I am making the point of channel 4 showing and using diversity in their announcers |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I'm actually a little bit in agreement with the OP here. Disabled people in the public eye have exactly the same rights to be criticised and disliked as any able-bodied person in the public eye, and I see no shortage of criticising other people on tv on these forums. Disabled people should not be molly-coddled because of their disabilities - this is just positive discrimination which is as bad as the negative kind. They are people who have their faults, just like everyone else. |
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"That is the point ..they also have an announcer with a strong Caribbean accent too
How can you compare a strong Carribbean accent to a speech impediment?
I am not.. I am making the point of channel 4 showing and using diversity in their announcers "
Apologies,I picked that up wrong. |
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"I think that's the point. Channel 4 are promoting acceptance and understanding of disability and I think it's great.
Why shouldn't he do it?
Exactly this! "
there was a lovely lady on e4 with a speech tick x she would randomly say biscuits, thought she was fantastic x |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"That is the point ..they also have an announcer with a strong Caribbean accent too
How can you compare a strong Carribbean accent to a speech impediment?
I am not.. I am making the point of channel 4 showing and using diversity in their announcers
Apologies,I picked that up wrong."
no worries |
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"I'm actually a little bit in agreement with the OP here. Disabled people in the public eye have exactly the same rights to be criticised and disliked as any able-bodied person in the public eye, and I see no shortage of criticising other people on tv on these forums. Disabled people should not be molly-coddled because of their disabilities - this is just positive discrimination which is as bad as the negative kind. They are people who have their faults, just like everyone else."
 not for their disabilities! Another ignoramus I see. Criticise their clothing, hair cut etc.... That's fair game but not their disabilities. |
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Good on C4 ... fair play I say! We're all the same at the end of the day.
Now what about fair pay .. do you think this presenter is getting paid the same as 'normal' male or even female presenters? |
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"I'm actually a little bit in agreement with the OP here. Disabled people in the public eye have exactly the same rights to be criticised and disliked as any able-bodied person in the public eye, and I see no shortage of criticising other people on tv on these forums. Disabled people should not be molly-coddled because of their disabilities - this is just positive discrimination which is as bad as the negative kind. They are people who have their faults, just like everyone else.
not for their disabilities! Another ignoramus I see. Criticise their clothing, hair cut etc.... That's fair game but not their disabilities. "
And I kind of get what your saying but in my opinion. ...on this one you only have the voice to go on...we do not see the clothes or hair type...and i don't think it was ignorant to ask in the op..it is a perfectly reasonable question to ask on this point in my opinion |
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"I'm actually a little bit in agreement with the OP here. Disabled people in the public eye have exactly the same rights to be criticised and disliked as any able-bodied person in the public eye, and I see no shortage of criticising other people on tv on these forums. Disabled people should not be molly-coddled because of their disabilities - this is just positive discrimination which is as bad as the negative kind. They are people who have their faults, just like everyone else.
not for their disabilities! Another ignoramus I see. Criticise their clothing, hair cut etc.... That's fair game but not their disabilities.
And I kind of get what your saying but in my opinion. ...on this one you only have the voice to go on...we do not see the clothes or hair type...and i don't think it was ignorant to ask in the op..it is a perfectly reasonable question to ask on this point in my opinion "
As you might have guessed.... I strongly disagree. This isn't about positive discrimination or molly codling this is about challenging ignorance. Your only reason for questioning his suitability for the job was based on his disability. Not his accent or his mumbling or tone or any other audible issues that would make the job unsuitable for anyone. I watch c4 all the time and not once have I had any difficulties understanding any of the announcers on there.
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"I'm actually a little bit in agreement with the OP here. Disabled people in the public eye have exactly the same rights to be criticised and disliked as any able-bodied person in the public eye, and I see no shortage of criticising other people on tv on these forums. Disabled people should not be molly-coddled because of their disabilities - this is just positive discrimination which is as bad as the negative kind. They are people who have their faults, just like everyone else.
not for their disabilities! Another ignoramus I see. Criticise their clothing, hair cut etc.... That's fair game but not their disabilities.
And I kind of get what your saying but in my opinion. ...on this one you only have the voice to go on...we do not see the clothes or hair type...and i don't think it was ignorant to ask in the op..it is a perfectly reasonable question to ask on this point in my opinion
As you might have guessed.... I strongly disagree. This isn't about positive discrimination or molly codling this is about challenging ignorance. Your only reason for questioning his suitability for the job was based on his disability. Not his accent or his mumbling or tone or any other audible issues that would make the job unsuitable for anyone. I watch c4 all the time and not once have I had any difficulties understanding any of the announcers on there.
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I think we just need to agree to disagree on this one...yes? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I think that's the point. Channel 4 are promoting acceptance and understanding of disability and I think it's great.
Why shouldn't he do it?
I'm far from saying he shouldn't do it and I'm all for what you said...but tbh he was not easy on the ear...which I thought was the main part of a announcers job.
But that's why I said your thoughts.
I'll concede this point as you do say that your aren't saying he shouldn't do it, although you do claim he isn't easy on the ear.
I'm nothing if not big enough to admit when I get something wrong
Fair enough
I'm far from body or any other shaming.
But I did question in my mind if it was the right job for him....that is why I asked for thoughts on this.
So apologies if anyone thinks I was being bigoted as that is not what I'm about."
You were asking a question. You weren't slagging off the guy.
It's a shit world when we're not allowed to ask questions or discuss things for fear of offending people.
I find it difficult to understand strong accents and people with speech impediments. I'll make my own way to the gallows. |
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"Now I'm far from mocking this bloke.. I noticed him last night and he has a bloody obvious speech impediment.
Now is this the right job for him?
Your thoughts?"
I recognise his voice from a programme a while ago.
I think it's good they've given him the job. Good to give different speaker types a 'voice'.  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Now I'm far from mocking this bloke.. I noticed him last night and he has a bloody obvious speech impediment.
Now is this the right job for him?
Your thoughts?
I recognise his voice from a programme a while ago.
I think it's good they've given him the job. Good to give different speaker types a 'voice'. "
And tbh I agree...but I did give it some thought as the voice is the only thing for this work....but ffs I'd better keep quiet as I've been on the gallows once today |
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"I think that's the point. Channel 4 are promoting acceptance and understanding of disability and I think it's great.
Why shouldn't he do it?
I'm far from saying he shouldn't do it and I'm all for what you said...but tbh he was not easy on the ear...which I thought was the main part of a announcers job.
But that's why I said your thoughts.
I'll concede this point as you do say that your aren't saying he shouldn't do it, although you do claim he isn't easy on the ear.
I'm nothing if not big enough to admit when I get something wrong
Fair enough
I'm far from body or any other shaming.
But I did question in my mind if it was the right job for him....that is why I asked for thoughts on this.
So apologies if anyone thinks I was being bigoted as that is not what I'm about.
You were asking a question. You weren't slagging off the guy.
It's a shit world when we're not allowed to ask questions or discuss things for fear of offending people.
I find it difficult to understand strong accents and people with speech impediments. I'll make my own way to the gallows. "
I agree |
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"Now I'm far from mocking this bloke.. I noticed him last night and he has a bloody obvious speech impediment.
Now is this the right job for him?
Your thoughts?
I recognise his voice from a programme a while ago.
I think it's good they've given him the job. Good to give different speaker types a 'voice'.
And tbh I agree...but I did give it some thought as the voice is the only thing for this work....but ffs I'd better keep quiet as I've been on the gallows once today"
Been opening your gob again have you tut tut |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
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I haven't seen this chap, but will look out for him. So, whilst I can't comment on whether the job is right for him, his skills obviously have to be those appropriate to his job. As an example, when I was in banking, we had a lovely lady cashier, who discovered she had 'number dyslexia', so the job wasn't appropriate for her, they however found her a position in another department and she was very successful there. So if this chap is doing his job that is satisfying the public, all well and good, if not then....it's nothing to do with disability. |
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"I'm actually a little bit in agreement with the OP here. Disabled people in the public eye have exactly the same rights to be criticised and disliked as any able-bodied person in the public eye, and I see no shortage of criticising other people on tv on these forums. Disabled people should not be molly-coddled because of their disabilities - this is just positive discrimination which is as bad as the negative kind. They are people who have their faults, just like everyone else.
not for their disabilities! Another ignoramus I see. Criticise their clothing, hair cut etc.... That's fair game but not their disabilities. "
Is it really "fair game" to criticise people on their appearance???
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"I think that's the point. Channel 4 are promoting acceptance and understanding of disability and I think it's great.
Why shouldn't he do it?
I'm far from saying he shouldn't do it and I'm all for what you said...but tbh he was not easy on the ear...which I thought was the main part of a announcers job.
But that's why I said your thoughts.
I'll concede this point as you do say that your aren't saying he shouldn't do it, although you do claim he isn't easy on the ear.
I'm nothing if not big enough to admit when I get something wrong
Fair enough
I'm far from body or any other shaming.
But I did question in my mind if it was the right job for him....that is why I asked for thoughts on this.
So apologies if anyone thinks I was being bigoted as that is not what I'm about.
You were asking a question. You weren't slagging off the guy.
It's a shit world when we're not allowed to ask questions or discuss things for fear of offending people.
I find it difficult to understand strong accents and people with speech impediments. I'll make my own way to the gallows. "
I’m with you on the accent thing. I speak 4 languages but I find strong accents incredibly difficult to understand  |
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"I think that's the point. Channel 4 are promoting acceptance and understanding of disability and I think it's great.
Why shouldn't he do it?
I'm far from saying he shouldn't do it and I'm all for what you said...but tbh he was not easy on the ear...which I thought was the main part of a announcers job.
But that's why I said your thoughts.
I'll concede this point as you do say that your aren't saying he shouldn't do it, although you do claim he isn't easy on the ear.
I'm nothing if not big enough to admit when I get something wrong
Fair enough
I'm far from body or any other shaming.
But I did question in my mind if it was the right job for him....that is why I asked for thoughts on this.
So apologies if anyone thinks I was being bigoted as that is not what I'm about.
You were asking a question. You weren't slagging off the guy.
It's a shit world when we're not allowed to ask questions or discuss things for fear of offending people.
I find it difficult to understand strong accents and people with speech impediments. I'll make my own way to the gallows. "
It's not about sending people to the gallows and saying you find someone difficult to understand is one thing but questioning whether someone should have the job they do because they are disabilities is another thing completely.
Also.... People we allowed to have and express differing opinions from those of the op without being accused of sending them to the gallows. |
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By *amissCouple
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"I'm actually a little bit in agreement with the OP here. Disabled people in the public eye have exactly the same rights to be criticised and disliked as any able-bodied person in the public eye, and I see no shortage of criticising other people on tv on these forums. Disabled people should not be molly-coddled because of their disabilities - this is just positive discrimination which is as bad as the negative kind. They are people who have their faults, just like everyone else.
not for their disabilities! Another ignoramus I see. Criticise their clothing, hair cut etc.... That's fair game but not their disabilities.
Is it really "fair game" to criticise people on their appearance???
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It isn't, but people should dress appropriately for their job, especially on tv and customer facing jobs. |
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"I'm actually a little bit in agreement with the OP here. Disabled people in the public eye have exactly the same rights to be criticised and disliked as any able-bodied person in the public eye, and I see no shortage of criticising other people on tv on these forums. Disabled people should not be molly-coddled because of their disabilities - this is just positive discrimination which is as bad as the negative kind. They are people who have their faults, just like everyone else.
not for their disabilities! Another ignoramus I see. Criticise their clothing, hair cut etc.... That's fair game but not their disabilities.
Is it really "fair game" to criticise people on their appearance???
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Poor choice of words but the sentiment was that it is never OK to mock someone's disability |
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"I wouldnt class anyone with a speech impediment as disabled.. lots of people in broadcasting journalism and showbiz do... even singers
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Yeah I agree and there were no mention of it being so in the op.
This came in the first post and twisted the whole op in my opinion....after all Jonathan Ross has one of the biggest speech impediments on tv and he mocks himself for that fact.
I would suggest the op was read again. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I've not seen or heard the guy.
Good luck to him.
He's got to be easier on the ears than Ray Winstan
So is Ray Winstone disabled?
Ridiculous statement "
You have quoted my question to the statement above it...for clarity who are you replying to? |
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"I've not seen or heard the guy.
Good luck to him.
He's got to be easier on the ears than Ray Winstan
So is Ray Winstone disabled?
Ridiculous statement
You have quoted my question to the statement above it...for clarity who are you replying to?"
Apologies..... Question. Facetious |
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"I wouldnt class anyone with a speech impediment as disabled.. lots of people in broadcasting journalism and showbiz do... even singers
Yeah I agree and there were no mention of it being so in the op.
This came in the first post and twisted the whole op in my opinion....after all Jonathan Ross has one of the biggest speech impediments on tv and he mocks himself for that fact.
I would suggest the op was read again."
You obviously didn't consider the professional offence takers when the OP was done. Some on here are so deluded that they even make up their own version of a post in their mind, then get offended at others because of what they themselves made up. Hilarious |
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"Now I'm far from mocking this bloke.. I noticed him last night and he has a bloody obvious speech impediment.
Now is this the right job for him?
Your thoughts?"
No I don't think he should be doing that job. The whole point of a programme announcer is to be clear and understood and not distracting. It's channel 4 taking diversity too far x |
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"I wouldnt class anyone with a speech impediment as disabled.. lots of people in broadcasting journalism and showbiz do... even singers
Yeah I agree and there were no mention of it being so in the op.
This came in the first post and twisted the whole op in my opinion....after all Jonathan Ross has one of the biggest speech impediments on tv and he mocks himself for that fact.
I would suggest the op was read again.
You obviously didn't consider the professional offence takers when the OP was done. Some on here are so deluded that they even make up their own version of a post in their mind, then get offended at others because of what they themselves made up. Hilarious "
By no means a professional offence taker but I do question ignorance and out sated views, psrtiv7around disability. Is that wrong? |
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"Now I'm far from mocking this bloke.. I noticed him last night and he has a bloody obvious speech impediment.
Now is this the right job for him?
Your thoughts?
No I don't think he should be doing that job. The whole point of a programme announcer is to be clear and understood and not distracting. It's channel 4 taking diversity too far x"
Wow. So you may have to listen a little closer (although I hardly have to break rhythm in my crochet to understand what programmes are being g announced. Such hardship. |
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He's obviously not the right man for the job, the whole point of an announcer is to speak loud and clear for all to understand, nobodys saying that he shouldnt have the job, good on him but he clearly only got the job in the first place based on his speech impediment and channel 4 is just trying to be cool and promote equality. You wouldnt employ a blind man to lead the blind, yeah maybe he can get the job done but theres obviously someone better suited for that job. |
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"I wouldnt class anyone with a speech impediment as disabled.. lots of people in broadcasting journalism and showbiz do... even singers
Yeah I agree and there were no mention of it being so in the op.
This came in the first post and twisted the whole op in my opinion....after all Jonathan Ross has one of the biggest speech impediments on tv and he mocks himself for that fact.
I would suggest the op was read again.
You obviously didn't consider the professional offence takers when the OP was done. Some on here are so deluded that they even make up their own version of a post in their mind, then get offended at others because of what they themselves made up. Hilarious "
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No it's ridiculous. I wish I had a great 'radio voice' or 'trailer man voice' but I don't so I'll never do those jobs. Same way as I'm not good looking enough to be a model, so I'll never have that job either.
Tokenism is never good. |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
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"Now I'm far from mocking this bloke.. I noticed him last night and he has a bloody obvious speech impediment.
Now is this the right job for him?
Your thoughts?
No I don't think he should be doing that job. The whole point of a programme announcer is to be clear and understood and not distracting. It's channel 4 taking diversity too far x"
I agree that a presenter should be clear and concise with his/her speech, that could mean someone with a very strong accent too, may be difficult to understand. We all have to fit the criteria of the position we are applying for. |
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"No it's ridiculous. I wish I had a great 'radio voice' or 'trailer man voice' but I don't so I'll never do those jobs. Same way as I'm not good looking enough to be a model, so I'll never have that job either.
Tokenism is never good. "
Do you say the same of the downs syndrome girl making it on the catwalk? She isn't 'conventionally' pretty yet is making a good living modelling.
Gone are the days of perfect diction on TV. They even have black people and the gays on TV now.... Shock horror!
Such archaic views on display here. His job is to announce the upcoming programmes and he does that perfectly well.
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"No it's ridiculous. I wish I had a great 'radio voice' or 'trailer man voice' but I don't so I'll never do those jobs. Same way as I'm not good looking enough to be a model, so I'll never have that job either.
Tokenism is never good.
Do you say the same of the downs syndrome girl making it on the catwalk? She isn't 'conventionally' pretty yet is making a good living modelling.
Gone are the days of perfect diction on TV. They even have black people and the gays on TV now.... Shock horror!
Such archaic views on display here. His job is to announce the upcoming programmes and he does that perfectly well.
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I haven't actually heard him so I don't know,but if some people can't understand him then he's not doing it perfectly well is he. |
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"No it's ridiculous. I wish I had a great 'radio voice' or 'trailer man voice' but I don't so I'll never do those jobs. Same way as I'm not good looking enough to be a model, so I'll never have that job either.
Tokenism is never good.
Do you say the same of the downs syndrome girl making it on the catwalk? She isn't 'conventionally' pretty yet is making a good living modelling.
Gone are the days of perfect diction on TV. They even have black people and the gays on TV now.... Shock horror!
Such archaic views on display here. His job is to announce the upcoming programmes and he does that perfectly well.
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Not all catwalk models are conventionally pretty, IMO and these models are displaying clothes and obviously that young lady is good at doing that |
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"No it's ridiculous. I wish I had a great 'radio voice' or 'trailer man voice' but I don't so I'll never do those jobs. Same way as I'm not good looking enough to be a model, so I'll never have that job either.
Tokenism is never good.
Do you say the same of the downs syndrome girl making it on the catwalk? She isn't 'conventionally' pretty yet is making a good living modelling.
Gone are the days of perfect diction on TV. They even have black people and the gays on TV now.... Shock horror!
Such archaic views on display here. His job is to announce the upcoming programmes and he does that perfectly well.
Not all catwalk models are conventionally pretty, IMO and these models are displaying clothes and obviously that young lady is good at doing that "
That's my thoughts as well. |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
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Not sure why black people have to be mentioned, but from a newsreader/presenter, point of view and the ones I enjoy listening to are George Alagiah, Trevor Mcdonald and Khrisnan Guru Murthy, because they have beautiful speaking voices. |
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"Not sure why black people have to be mentioned, but from a newsreader/presenter, point of view and the ones I enjoy listening to are George Alagiah, Trevor Mcdonald and Khrisnan Guru Murthy, because they have beautiful speaking voices. "
My thoughts too when I asked the original question....I know things have changed as bloody hell we even have a boro lass on BBC breakfast tv.
But surely clarity is the only part that has to be right for a announcers job.
But hey ho each to Thier own views eh |
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"No it's ridiculous. I wish I had a great 'radio voice' or 'trailer man voice' but I don't so I'll never do those jobs. Same way as I'm not good looking enough to be a model, so I'll never have that job either.
Tokenism is never good.
Do you say the same of the downs syndrome girl making it on the catwalk? She isn't 'conventionally' pretty yet is making a good living modelling.
Gone are the days of perfect diction on TV. They even have black people and the gays on TV now.... Shock horror!
Such archaic views on display here. His job is to announce the upcoming programmes and he does that perfectly well.
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What have black or gay people have to do with this? Are you saying that being black or gay (or both!) are disabilities? Does your trendyism extend to having partially sighted pilots or brain surgeons with MS? |
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By *amissCouple
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Back to the OP. No doubt this is the right job for him, personally, but as I've said before, if an announcer was, 'not so easy on the ear' then I probably wouldn't listen to that programme. It's like some of the mumbling actors in some dramas, it makes it difficult to pick up on their speech. |
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"Now I'm far from mocking this bloke.. I noticed him last night and he has a bloody obvious speech impediment.
Now is this the right job for him?
Your thoughts?"
What about mr woss used to be on itv couldn’t even pwonounce
His name I think it’s great times are changing move with them |
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"Now I'm far from mocking this bloke.. I noticed him last night and he has a bloody obvious speech impediment.
Now is this the right job for him?
Your thoughts?
What about mr woss used to be on itv couldn’t even pwonounce
His name I think it’s great times are changing move with them "
Can't listen to him! |
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"Now I'm far from mocking this bloke.. I noticed him last night and he has a bloody obvious speech impediment.
Now is this the right job for him?
Your thoughts?
What about mr woss used to be on itv couldn’t even pwonounce
His name I think it’s great times are changing move with them
Can't listen to him! "
Ah but there you go...I mentioned him earlier and I quite like him but mainly for his with. ...but if he just had a announcers job I think it would be tiresome to listen to just that.  |
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over a year ago
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"Now I'm far from mocking this bloke.. I noticed him last night and he has a bloody obvious speech impediment.
Now is this the right job for him?
Your thoughts?
What about mr woss used to be on itv couldn’t even pwonounce
His name I think it’s great times are changing move with them
Can't listen to him!
Ah but there you go...I mentioned him earlier and I quite like him but mainly for his with. ...but if he just had a announcers job I think it would be tiresome to listen to just that. "
He's not someone I enjoy watching, but agree with you on the announcers job |
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"Now I'm far from mocking this bloke.. I noticed him last night and he has a bloody obvious speech impediment.
Now is this the right job for him?
Your thoughts?"
Bravo Chanel 4.
Bravo him.
So yes, its the right job for him. |
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"No it's ridiculous. I wish I had a great 'radio voice' or 'trailer man voice' but I don't so I'll never do those jobs. Same way as I'm not good looking enough to be a model, so I'll never have that job either.
Tokenism is never good.
Do you say the same of the downs syndrome girl making it on the catwalk? She isn't 'conventionally' pretty yet is making a good living modelling.
Gone are the days of perfect diction on TV. They even have black people and the gays on TV now.... Shock horror!
Such archaic views on display here. His job is to announce the upcoming programmes and he does that perfectly well.
What have black or gay people have to do with this? Are you saying that being black or gay (or both!) are disabilities? Does your trendyism extend to having partially sighted pilots or brain surgeons with MS?"
No, I'm showing how far we have come from the archaic view points on display here. It was somewhat flippant. |
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"Now I'm far from mocking this bloke.. I noticed him last night and he has a bloody obvious speech impediment.
Now is this the right job for him?
Your thoughts?
Bravo Chanel 4.
Bravo him.
So yes, its the right job for him."
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"No it's ridiculous. I wish I had a great 'radio voice' or 'trailer man voice' but I don't so I'll never do those jobs. Same way as I'm not good looking enough to be a model, so I'll never have that job either.
Tokenism is never good.
Do you say the same of the downs syndrome girl making it on the catwalk? She isn't 'conventionally' pretty yet is making a good living modelling.
Gone are the days of perfect diction on TV. They even have black people and the gays on TV now.... Shock horror!
Such archaic views on display here. His job is to announce the upcoming programmes and he does that perfectly well.
What have black or gay people have to do with this? Are you saying that being black or gay (or both!) are disabilities? Does your trendyism extend to having partially sighted pilots or brain surgeons with MS?
No, I'm showing how far we have come from the archaic view points on display here. It was somewhat flippant. "
Oh..... And as announcing upcoming programmes has zero effect on the lives of other people I find you 'trendyism' comment far from comparable. |
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over a year ago
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"Now I'm far from mocking this bloke.. I noticed him last night and he has a bloody obvious speech impediment.
Now is this the right job for him?
Your thoughts?
What about mr woss used to be on itv couldn’t even pwonounce
His name I think it’s great times are changing move with them
Can't listen to him!
Ah but there you go...I mentioned him earlier and I quite like him but mainly for his with. ...but if he just had a announcers job I think it would be tiresome to listen to just that. "
Jonathan Ross is likely to speak/be heard more on his radio/televisions shows and for longer, more complex speech than the announcer. We get used to the cadence of speech the more we hear it.
I have more issues with standard speech on television and radio with dropped aitches, pronouncing them as 'haitch' and that 'Boro lass pronouncing ambulance as amberlance. I wouldn't denounce them all as unfit for their jobs because of it.
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"Now I'm far from mocking this bloke.. I noticed him last night and he has a bloody obvious speech impediment.
Now is this the right job for him?
Your thoughts?
What about mr woss used to be on itv couldn’t even pwonounce
His name I think it’s great times are changing move with them
Can't listen to him!
Ah but there you go...I mentioned him earlier and I quite like him but mainly for his with. ...but if he just had a announcers job I think it would be tiresome to listen to just that.
Jonathan Ross is likely to speak/be heard more on his radio/televisions shows and for longer, more complex speech than the announcer. We get used to the cadence of speech the more we hear it.
I have more issues with standard speech on television and radio with dropped aitches, pronouncing them as 'haitch' and that 'Boro lass pronouncing ambulance as amberlance. I wouldn't denounce them all as unfit for their jobs because of it.
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“that ‘Boro lass” ... 
Really??? |
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"Now I'm far from mocking this bloke.. I noticed him last night and he has a bloody obvious speech impediment.
Now is this the right job for him?
Your thoughts?
What about mr woss used to be on itv couldn’t even pwonounce
His name I think it’s great times are changing move with them
Can't listen to him!
Ah but there you go...I mentioned him earlier and I quite like him but mainly for his with. ...but if he just had a announcers job I think it would be tiresome to listen to just that.
Jonathan Ross is likely to speak/be heard more on his radio/televisions shows and for longer, more complex speech than the announcer. We get used to the cadence of speech the more we hear it.
I have more issues with standard speech on television and radio with dropped aitches, pronouncing them as 'haitch' and that 'Boro lass pronouncing ambulance as amberlance. I wouldn't denounce them all as unfit for their jobs because of it.
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Thats cos it's an amberlance up here |
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"Now I'm far from mocking this bloke.. I noticed him last night and he has a bloody obvious speech impediment.
Now is this the right job for him?
Your thoughts?
What about mr woss used to be on itv couldn’t even pwonounce
His name I think it’s great times are changing move with them
Can't listen to him!
Ah but there you go...I mentioned him earlier and I quite like him but mainly for his with. ...but if he just had a announcers job I think it would be tiresome to listen to just that.
Jonathan Ross is likely to speak/be heard more on his radio/televisions shows and for longer, more complex speech than the announcer. We get used to the cadence of speech the more we hear it.
I have more issues with standard speech on television and radio with dropped aitches, pronouncing them as 'haitch' and that 'Boro lass pronouncing ambulance as amberlance. I wouldn't denounce them all as unfit for their jobs because of it.
“that ‘Boro lass” ...
Really???"
Really....I'm from the boro and that's how I described her earlier on this thread |
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"Now I'm far from mocking this bloke.. I noticed him last night and he has a bloody obvious speech impediment.
Now is this the right job for him?
Your thoughts?
What about mr woss used to be on itv couldn’t even pwonounce
His name I think it’s great times are changing move with them
Can't listen to him!
Ah but there you go...I mentioned him earlier and I quite like him but mainly for his with. ...but if he just had a announcers job I think it would be tiresome to listen to just that.
Jonathan Ross is likely to speak/be heard more on his radio/televisions shows and for longer, more complex speech than the announcer. We get used to the cadence of speech the more we hear it.
I have more issues with standard speech on television and radio with dropped aitches, pronouncing them as 'haitch' and that 'Boro lass pronouncing ambulance as amberlance. I wouldn't denounce them all as unfit for their jobs because of it.
“that ‘Boro lass” ...
Really???
Really....I'm from the boro and that's how I described her earlier on this thread "
Well I will give you a stern face as well then!!!
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"Now I'm far from mocking this bloke.. I noticed him last night and he has a bloody obvious speech impediment.
Now is this the right job for him?
Your thoughts?
What about mr woss used to be on itv couldn’t even pwonounce
His name I think it’s great times are changing move with them
Can't listen to him!
Ah but there you go...I mentioned him earlier and I quite like him but mainly for his with. ...but if he just had a announcers job I think it would be tiresome to listen to just that.
Jonathan Ross is likely to speak/be heard more on his radio/televisions shows and for longer, more complex speech than the announcer. We get used to the cadence of speech the more we hear it.
I have more issues with standard speech on television and radio with dropped aitches, pronouncing them as 'haitch' and that 'Boro lass pronouncing ambulance as amberlance. I wouldn't denounce them all as unfit for their jobs because of it.
Thats cos it's an amberlance up here "
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"Now I'm far from mocking this bloke.. I noticed him last night and he has a bloody obvious speech impediment.
Now is this the right job for him?
Your thoughts?
What about mr woss used to be on itv couldn’t even pwonounce
His name I think it’s great times are changing move with them
Can't listen to him!
Ah but there you go...I mentioned him earlier and I quite like him but mainly for his with. ...but if he just had a announcers job I think it would be tiresome to listen to just that.
Jonathan Ross is likely to speak/be heard more on his radio/televisions shows and for longer, more complex speech than the announcer. We get used to the cadence of speech the more we hear it.
I have more issues with standard speech on television and radio with dropped aitches, pronouncing them as 'haitch' and that 'Boro lass pronouncing ambulance as amberlance. I wouldn't denounce them all as unfit for their jobs because of it.
“that ‘Boro lass” ...
Really???"
I was just quoting how she was referred to earlier in the thread.
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