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So the tax on sugary drinks comes in today.
I applaud the government for their action in fighting obesity.
I had no idea that adding extra tax reduced calorie content.
I'm going into the fridge to tax the butter , the chocolate, the cake and the sausages.
The money is going to tackling teen obesity ...... what a laugh.
It's like taxing ciggies n having oxygen tanks outside each shop.
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"This is all too nanny state for my liking"
Mine too. The woman I saw last night surprised me. She seemed to know that too much sugar was bad for her children but seemed powerless to act until some sort of legislation was in place.  |
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"A woman in a vox pop interview last night said it was good because it might stop her children drinking so much pop. It must be a good thing then...  "
How the heck does she work that one out,do her children actually buy the pop themselves I wonder?! |
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"This is all too nanny state for my liking
Mine too. The woman I saw last night surprised me. She seemed to know that too much sugar was bad for her children but seemed powerless to act until some sort of legislation was in place. "
People like that make it easy for governments to take our money ffs |
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"A woman in a vox pop interview last night said it was good because it might stop her children drinking so much pop. It must be a good thing then...
How the heck does she work that one out,do her children actually buy the pop themselves I wonder?!"
I suspect part of it was that she was keen to be seen as knowing that sugar was bad and in agreement with the sugar tax and got a bit caught in a trap of her own making and part as I said above. |
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"This is all too nanny state for my liking
Mine too. The woman I saw last night surprised me. She seemed to know that too much sugar was bad for her children but seemed powerless to act until some sort of legislation was in place.
People like that make it easy for governments to take our money ffs"
And for people to be controlled. |
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My daughter hates fizzy drinks. But if it was an issue I'd just ban her from having them. I'm the parent not her.
It works out at 7p per can or something like that. Hardly a hike. |
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The idea is that sugar free drinks will be cheaper and/or larger size packaging, for example 6 packs of but 8 packs of diet for the same price.At least they're trying,it's not about raising taxes, but for me it's the energy drinks that cause most harm in kids |
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"The idea is that sugar free drinks will be cheaper and/or larger size packaging, for example 6 packs of but 8 packs of diet for the same price.At least they're trying,it's not about raising taxes, but for me it's the energy drinks that cause most harm in kids"
I wouldn't let my kids have sugar free either. |
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Luckily I don't like them, far too sweet, strange coming from a chocaholic. I'm a water and coffee girl..... as well as wine, beer, vodka, Baileys, turps etc
My youngest drinks litres of water a day, where as my hubby and eldest drink litres of full fat Pepsi, nasty stuff. |
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I was in Greggs the other day to grab a coffee (only place near by) and I saw that they were charging an extra 7p if you have a full sugar drink I mentioned the sugar tax to the cashier and she said it was a crap idea..I personally think it’s a great idea but I hardly think it’s going to solve the bigger picture. |
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I had a argument in bar as i asked for diet tonic and i got low sugar tonic but low sugar tonic is still high in sugar compared to diet tonic .he went and read the labels and i was correct .only diet tonic had no sugar in .So alot of bars are selling low sugar as diet but its not .It pisses me off .(rant over )  |
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"I had a argument in bar as i asked for diet tonic and i got low sugar tonic but low sugar tonic is still high in sugar compared to diet tonic .he went and read the labels and i was correct .only diet tonic had no sugar in .So alot of bars are selling low sugar as diet but its not .It pisses me off .(rant over ) "
But can you get diet gin?  |
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"If this kinda thing worked then surely alot less people would still smoke!
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If you're going to chose something to argue against this smoking duty is pretty much the worst choice you could make.
As a tax to offset a social problem its been hugely successful, the number of smokers has plummeted and the tax revenue actually exceeds all the health costs caused by smoking.
So in terms of reducing smoking it worked.
In terms of making smokers cover the cost of thier healthcare it worked and provides a few billion in profit.
Same for the car tax changes with hybrids it was so effective they had to reverse it a few years later to maintain revenue
I dislike this tax though as sugar is no inherently harmful like smoking, alcohol or emissions so it punishes normal people for the idiocy of others.
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"The idea is that sugar free drinks will be cheaper and/or larger size packaging, for example 6 packs of but 8 packs of diet for the same price.At least they're trying,it's not about raising taxes, but for me it's the energy drinks that cause most harm in kids"
to buy energy drinks you have to be 16 now
So kids should only be having them if thier parents are buying them.
Bizarrely this meant at Tesco today on the self service I could buy a bottle of caustic soda drain cleaner that could blind people fine but needed ID to buy the can of monster |
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"I had a argument in bar as i asked for diet tonic and i got low sugar tonic but low sugar tonic is still high in sugar compared to diet tonic .he went and read the labels and i was correct .only diet tonic had no sugar in .So alot of bars are selling low sugar as diet but its not .It pisses me off .(rant over )
But can you get diet gin? "
No lol but feels better with diet tonic |
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"I had a argument in bar as i asked for diet tonic and i got low sugar tonic but low sugar tonic is still high in sugar compared to diet tonic .he went and read the labels and i was correct .only diet tonic had no sugar in .So alot of bars are selling low sugar as diet but its not .It pisses me off .(rant over )
But can you get diet gin?
No lol but feels better with diet tonic "
Makes sense...I think |
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"A woman in a vox pop interview last night said it was good because it might stop her children drinking so much pop. It must be a good thing then... "
Typical of modern society, everybodies else's responsibility, how about she showed parental guidance in the first place! |
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Diet drinks taste awful and we've yet to see the consequences of those chemicals!.
I always get full fat Coke from a bottle none of that soda shit and drink sensible.. unless it's with Jack Daniels |
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"A woman in a vox pop interview last night said it was good because it might stop her children drinking so much pop. It must be a good thing then...
Typical of modern society, everybodies else's responsibility, how about she showed parental guidance in the first place!"
But how have we arrived at this point? We're sleep walking into a high surveillance, highly legislated society that's going to allow us to be tightly controlled "for our own good" in my opinion. |
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"Luckily I don't like them, far too sweet, strange coming from a chocaholic. I'm a water and coffee girl..... as well as wine, beer, vodka, Baileys, turps etc
My youngest drinks litres of water a day, where as my hubby and eldest drink litres of full fat Pepsi, nasty stuff."
Full fat or diet turps? |
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"A woman in a vox pop interview last night said it was good because it might stop her children drinking so much pop. It must be a good thing then...
Typical of modern society, everybodies else's responsibility, how about she showed parental guidance in the first place!
But how have we arrived at this point? We're sleep walking into a high surveillance, highly legislated society that's going to allow us to be tightly controlled "for our own good" in my opinion."
People just don't seem to take any responsibility any more so they are trying to fix that by being a nanny state. I don't know what the answer is.  |
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I've just seen an ad saying adopt early,or something like that, for diet cherry flavour. If it were caffeine free I'd try it.
I drink decaf diet Coke anyway, or I get a caffeine rush. |
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I refused to buy my grandson a can of Coke yesterday but wasn't really sure what an alternative would be. I think it would be better if patents didn't get them into the habit in the first place-even diet sodas.
I know some families who have a fizzy drink with their meals. We didn't drink anything with our meals and my children didn't either. My son has milk or water with his food now. |
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"A woman in a vox pop interview last night said it was good because it might stop her children drinking so much pop. It must be a good thing then...
Typical of modern society, everybodies else's responsibility, how about she showed parental guidance in the first place!
But how have we arrived at this point? We're sleep walking into a high surveillance, highly legislated society that's going to allow us to be tightly controlled "for our own good" in my opinion.
People just don't seem to take any responsibility any more so they are trying to fix that by being a nanny state. I don't know what the answer is. "
Neither do I. All we can do is take responsibilty for ourselves and encourage any children we have to do the same.
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"So the tax on sugary drinks comes in today.
I applaud the government for their action in fighting obesity.
I had no idea that adding extra tax reduced calorie content.
I'm going into the fridge to tax the butter , the chocolate, the cake and the sausages.
The money is going to tackling teen obesity ...... what a laugh.
It's like taxing ciggies n having oxygen tanks outside each shop.
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hahahaha BRILLIANT X |
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"My daughter hates fizzy drinks. But if it was an issue I'd just ban her from having them. I'm the parent not her.
It works out at 7p per can or something like that. Hardly a hike. "
banning her or any child is fairly pointless, kids arnt allowed to smoke but they do... more education would be far more beneficial than tax or banning in my opinion |
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"I had a argument in bar as i asked for diet tonic and i got low sugar tonic but low sugar tonic is still high in sugar compared to diet tonic .he went and read the labels and i was correct .only diet tonic had no sugar in .So alot of bars are selling low sugar as diet but its not .It pisses me off .(rant over )
But can you get diet gin? "
Depends which diet you are on. It's carb free and no problem on a low carb regime |
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"I had a argument in bar as i asked for diet tonic and i got low sugar tonic but low sugar tonic is still high in sugar compared to diet tonic .he went and read the labels and i was correct .only diet tonic had no sugar in .So alot of bars are selling low sugar as diet but its not .It pisses me off .(rant over )
But can you get diet gin?
Depends which diet you are on. It's carb free and no problem on a low carb regime"
I just had a quick Google and a vodka and soda has only half the calories then a G an T....just saying... |
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"I had a argument in bar as i asked for diet tonic and i got low sugar tonic but low sugar tonic is still high in sugar compared to diet tonic .he went and read the labels and i was correct .only diet tonic had no sugar in .So alot of bars are selling low sugar as diet but its not .It pisses me off .(rant over )
But can you get diet gin?
Depends which diet you are on. It's carb free and no problem on a low carb regime
I just had a quick Google and a vodka and soda has only half the calories then a G an T....just saying..."
Change the Tonic for diet or O% sugar tonic...... barn pot. |
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"I had a argument in bar as i asked for diet tonic and i got low sugar tonic but low sugar tonic is still high in sugar compared to diet tonic .he went and read the labels and i was correct .only diet tonic had no sugar in .So alot of bars are selling low sugar as diet but its not .It pisses me off .(rant over )
But can you get diet gin?
Depends which diet you are on. It's carb free and no problem on a low carb regime
I just had a quick Google and a vodka and soda has only half the calories then a G an T....just saying..."
I dont like vodka .im diabetic so need diet tonic not low sugar .i should try gin and diet lemonade if bars have no diet tonic .But i bet it tastes poop .  |
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"Gin n diet tonic is ambrosia to me............ prefer wine tho"
I love red wine but i cant drink it all night if i go out .i fall off heels or start feeling mens bulges in pants |
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Apparently our bodies turn the stuff in diet drinks into sugar anyway, as it doesn't recognise them correctly.
I don't think this tax will work all that well to reduce obesity and fatness. It also penalises people who drink them but are not fat.
I don't think the government are bothered so much about health, more the cost of treating the related conditions people might develop. |
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"Gin n diet tonic is ambrosia to me............ prefer wine tho
I love red wine but i cant drink it all night if i go out .i fall off heels or start feeling mens bulges in pants "
Just a pair of piss heads you two...I'll stick with me no sugar latte |
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"Gin n diet tonic is ambrosia to me............ prefer wine tho
I love red wine but i cant drink it all night if i go out .i fall off heels or start feeling mens bulges in pants
Just a pair of piss heads you two...I'll stick with me no sugar latte "
With packet of chocolate biscuits i bet. |
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I hate the taste of artificial sweeteners and it is becoming increasingly difficult, to find sugar-sweetened soft drinks, anywhere (especially in pubs/restaurants).
I'm not keen on Pepsi and I've never liked Coke - but they are among the very rare fizzy drinks, which still use sugar.
I applaud M&S for leading the way and banning aspartame, in their products - but they've dropped the ball, by choosing to mainly stock chemically sweetened substitutes.
My 'local' (4 miles away) M&S only stock 1L bottles of sugared lemonade. |
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"Gin n diet tonic is ambrosia to me............ prefer wine tho
I love red wine but i cant drink it all night if i go out .i fall off heels or start feeling mens bulges in pants
Just a pair of piss heads you two...I'll stick with me no sugar latte
With packet of chocolate biscuits i bet. "
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"I hate the taste of artificial sweeteners and it is becoming increasingly difficult, to find sugar-sweetened soft drinks, anywhere (especially in pubs/restaurants).
I'm not keen on Pepsi and I've never liked Coke - but they are among the very rare fizzy drinks, which still use sugar.
I applaud M&S for leading the way and banning aspartame, in their products - but they've dropped the ball, by choosing to mainly stock chemically sweetened substitutes.
My 'local' (4 miles away) M&S only stock 1L bottles of sugared lemonade."
This is my pet hate lately .... the increasing use of artificial sweeteners in drinks you'd normally describe as 'full fat' and would therefore expect to be sweetener free. Ribena being one example where some of the sugar in the purple variety (as opposed to the blue sugar free version) has been replaced with sweeteners and now tastes completely different. This might well be to try and swerve the sugar tax but many manufacturers don't make this clear, e.g. on the front of packaging, and aspartame etc can cause very unpleasant side effects for people with various bowel conditions who need to avoid it. It's almost impossible now to find squash sweetened just with sugar - though Rocks is one, and the French brand Teisseire is another. If you want fizz San Pellegrino is also currently sugar loaded.
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"Gin n diet tonic is ambrosia to me............ prefer wine tho
I love red wine but i cant drink it all night if i go out .i fall off heels or start feeling mens bulges in pants "
Let me just top up that drink for you |
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I hate diet drinks, the artificial sweeteners make me hurl. How about taxing things that make our kids lazy, computer games etc. If our kids were more active perhaps that would help with the obesity problem. |
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"I hate the taste of artificial sweeteners and it is becoming increasingly difficult, to find sugar-sweetened soft drinks, anywhere (especially in pubs/restaurants).
I'm not keen on Pepsi and I've never liked Coke - but they are among the very rare fizzy drinks, which still use sugar.
I applaud M&S for leading the way and banning aspartame, in their products - but they've dropped the ball, by choosing to mainly stock chemically sweetened substitutes.
My 'local' (4 miles away) M&S only stock 1L bottles of sugared lemonade."
Pepsi has both sugar and sweeteners in it.... Coke only has sugar |
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"This is my pet hate lately .... the increasing use of artificial sweeteners in drinks you'd normally describe as 'full fat' and would therefore expect to be sweetener free. Ribena being one example where some of the sugar in the purple variety (as opposed to the blue sugar free version) has been replaced with sweeteners and now tastes completely different. This might well be to try and swerve the sugar tax but many manufacturers don't make this clear, e.g. on the front of packaging, and aspartame etc can cause very unpleasant side effects for people with various bowel conditions who need to avoid it. It's almost impossible now to find squash sweetened just with sugar - though Rocks is one, and the French brand Teisseire is another. If you want fizz San Pellegrino is also currently sugar loaded.
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I find it really annoying, when stockists change the ingredients without telling you.
I used to buy Morrison's high juice: 50% juice, compared with Ribena 35% - and it tasted great.
Noticed the label suddenly changed and sure enough, they are now using sucralose to sweeten it. Yuk.
Tesco used to sell nice lemonade and ginger beer - same happened but the label didnt change. I only realised, when it tasted horrible (aspartame).
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"The idea is that sugar free drinks will be cheaper and/or larger size packaging, for example 6 packs of but 8 packs of diet for the same price.At least they're trying,it's not about raising taxes, but for me it's the energy drinks that cause most harm in kids
to buy energy drinks you have to be 16 now
So kids should only be having them if thier parents are buying them.
Bizarrely this meant at Tesco today on the self service I could buy a bottle of caustic soda drain cleaner that could blind people fine but needed ID to buy the can of monster "
Are you under 16?!  |
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"Apparently our bodies turn the stuff in diet drinks into sugar anyway, as it doesn't recognise them correctly.
I don't think this tax will work all that well to reduce obesity and fatness. It also penalises people who drink them but are not fat.
I don't think the government are bothered so much about health, more the cost of treating the related conditions people might develop. "
There's some research (which I can't be arsed to find right now) that indicates it's also the bubbles making us fat. This includes calorie free bubbly water.
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"Gin n diet tonic is ambrosia to me............ prefer wine tho
I love red wine but i cant drink it all night if i go out .i fall off heels or start feeling mens bulges in pants "
Do what I do. Wine, water, wine , water , wine , water,,,, |
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"Apparently our bodies turn the stuff in diet drinks into sugar anyway, as it doesn't recognise them correctly.
I don't think this tax will work all that well to reduce obesity and fatness. It also penalises people who drink them but are not fat.
I don't think the government are bothered so much about health, more the cost of treating the related conditions people might develop.
There's some research (which I can't be arsed to find right now) that indicates it's also the bubbles making us fat. This includes calorie free bubbly water.
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Calories in air ? |
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"As I understand it the manufacturers have indeed reduced the sugar content of many drinks to avoid the tax - that's a result IMO."
Absolutely it is a result.
Besides, the sugar tax is not just about obesity, it is about tooth decay in infancy and childhood. |
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"Gin n diet tonic is ambrosia to me............ prefer wine tho
I love red wine but i cant drink it all night if i go out .i fall off heels or start feeling mens bulges in pants
Do what I do. Wine, water, wine , water , wine , water,,,,"
You turn wine into water... Does this make you the anti Christ? |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
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"Apparently our bodies turn the stuff in diet drinks into sugar anyway, as it doesn't recognise them correctly.
I don't think this tax will work all that well to reduce obesity and fatness. It also penalises people who drink them but are not fat.
I don't think the government are bothered so much about health, more the cost of treating the related conditions people might develop.
There's some research (which I can't be arsed to find right now) that indicates it's also the bubbles making us fat. This includes calorie free bubbly water.
Calories in air ? "
There aren't any calories but we have a response to the bubbles that holds on to calories and turns us fat. Something like that. I'll find it tomorrow. I'm supposed to be getting ready for swinging.
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By *icketysplitsWoman
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"As I understand it the manufacturers have indeed reduced the sugar content of many drinks to avoid the tax - that's a result IMO.
Absolutely it is a result.
Besides, the sugar tax is not just about obesity, it is about tooth decay in infancy and childhood."
I was appalled to learn that a very middle class couple I know have allowed their 5 year old to get 10 cavities. He has to have a general anaesthetic to deal with them.
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"I hate the taste of artificial sweeteners and it is becoming increasingly difficult, to find sugar-sweetened soft drinks, anywhere (especially in pubs/restaurants).
I'm not keen on Pepsi and I've never liked Coke - but they are among the very rare fizzy drinks, which still use sugar.
I applaud M&S for leading the way and banning aspartame, in their products - but they've dropped the ball, by choosing to mainly stock chemically sweetened substitutes.
My 'local' (4 miles away) M&S only stock 1L bottles of sugared lemonade.
Pepsi has both sugar and sweeteners in it.... Coke only has sugar "
That must be why I don't like Pepsi. |
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"A woman in a vox pop interview last night said it was good because it might stop her children drinking so much pop. It must be a good thing then...
Typical of modern society, everybodies else's responsibility, how about she showed parental guidance in the first place!
But how have we arrived at this point? We're sleep walking into a high surveillance, highly legislated society that's going to allow us to be tightly controlled "for our own good" in my opinion.
People just don't seem to take any responsibility any more so they are trying to fix that by being a nanny state. I don't know what the answer is.
Neither do I. All we can do is take responsibilty for ourselves and encourage any children we have to do the same.
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"Gin n diet tonic is ambrosia to me............ prefer wine tho
I love red wine but i cant drink it all night if i go out .i fall off heels or start feeling mens bulges in pants
Do what I do. Wine, water, wine , water , wine , water,,,,"
Good idea granny but mates be thinking im nuts going to bar for water . |
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"As I understand it the manufacturers have indeed reduced the sugar content of many drinks to avoid the tax - that's a result IMO.
Absolutely it is a result.
Besides, the sugar tax is not just about obesity, it is about tooth decay in infancy and childhood.
I was appalled to learn that a very middle class couple I know have allowed their 5 year old to get 10 cavities. He has to have a general anaesthetic to deal with them.
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I was quite strict with my children with sweets and fizzy drinks. I explained to them that they were bad for them and they didn't make a fuss about not having sweets or fizzy drinks except on a Friday evening.
None of them had a filling until they were in their 20s. I used to make sure they brushed their teeth properly too. |
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"Gin n diet tonic is ambrosia to me............ prefer wine tho
I love red wine but i cant drink it all night if i go out .i fall off heels or start feeling mens bulges in pants
Do what I do. Wine, water, wine , water , wine , water,,,,
Good idea granny but mates be thinking im nuts going to bar for water . "
You go to the bar and you say ...... A glass of ( fave red ) and a glass of tap water pls.
One visit. Two drinks. |
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"I hate the taste of artificial sweeteners and it is becoming increasingly difficult, to find sugar-sweetened soft drinks, anywhere (especially in pubs/restaurants).
I'm not keen on Pepsi and I've never liked Coke - but they are among the very rare fizzy drinks, which still use sugar.
I applaud M&S for leading the way and banning aspartame, in their products - but they've dropped the ball, by choosing to mainly stock chemically sweetened substitutes.
My 'local' (4 miles away) M&S only stock 1L bottles of sugared lemonade.
Pepsi has both sugar and sweeteners in it.... Coke only has sugar
That must be why I don't like Pepsi. "
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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The fizzy drink research (Birzeit University in Palestine) was on rats and a small group (20) of young men
Precis of the conclusion on the NHS site:
There seemed to be a clear distinction in this study between fizzy and non-fizzy drink consumption in terms of weight gain, appetite and ghrelin production.
These findings were further supported by the study in healthy adult volunteers, which similarly showed that fizzy drinks increased ghrelin production.
It had been thought that the sugar content in soft drinks causes obesity, but this doesn't account for the link between weight gain and diet drinks that don't contain sugar. The researchers suggest carbonation could be the common link between the two...
Even in the rats, they found that even though the rats had increased levels of the appetite hormone, there was no effect on the levels of another hormone that tells them when they're full. This means we can't be certain that ghrelin provides the whole answer.
Overall, this study raises the interesting possibility that fizzy drinks could stimulate the appetite and cause weight gain, which is definitely worthy of further research. |
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. You'd think
Think it's the wine bread and cheese that has done the damage 