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"A bit surprised at the great man's funeral yesterday he was well know for his atheist believes not sure he would be comfortable with Eddie Redmayne's bible readings and the church service '"
Maybe he was a hypocrite.
Maybe he said that his family could do as they wished.
Maybe at the time of judgement he suddenly decided he didn't want to upset God in case he got snapped up by Beelzebub.
If my family were religious and it helped them to have a church service then they can do that. As an atheist, I believe i'll be dead and simply return to earth. Makes no odds to me. |
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My aunt was an atheist her entire life. When she was diagnosed with terminal cancer she began to go to church. She told the vicar she still didn't believe though. I think she was hedging her bets. |
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I was having a similar conversation the other day. Their relative was cremated with no service or anything. She thought it was horrible that the family did no service for the relative.
I said perhaps they were respecting the dead relative's wishes.
Maybe his family wanted the service and he said it was ok. |
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"I was having a similar conversation the other day. Their relative was cremated with no service or anything. She thought it was horrible that the family did no service for the relative.
I said perhaps they were respecting the dead relative's wishes.
Maybe his family wanted the service and he said it was ok. "
I suspect that he would have had his funeral planned for some time.
The bible has some beautiful passages in it that are worth reading even if you aren't religious. |
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"I think his wife is a devout Christian, so no doubt it would have been important to her.
Mrs"
Yup. As an atheist , my family found comfort in sending me 'up' to God for safekeeping then so be it. |
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"An atheist wouldn't care what was done or said after they were dead but would want whatever comforts their family most."
believers usually have a doctrine in common and it can often be reasonable to suggest what they would think based upon their belief system
atheists have one thing in common , none of the human invented god concepts are convincing enough to take a stance of belief
beyond that no one can make a reasoned assessment of what any individual atheist may or not think
I have it in my will that I will not be having any funeral
to my close friends it would seems disrespectful to my memory if anything religious or ceremonial was part of my death !
but to suggest atheists share a like mind or doctrine is misleading x |
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"A bit surprised at the great man's funeral yesterday he was well know for his atheist believes not sure he would be comfortable with Eddie Redmayne's bible readings and the church service '"
Since he's dead he won't care, surely? I don't believe in a God or an afterlife so what my loved ones choose to do when I go is irrelevant to me. |
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"QUOTE atheists have one thing in common , none of the human invented god concepts are convincing enough to take a stance of belief UNQUOTE
This is agnosticism according to me."
A without
theism belief in any current god concept
that's it
as you say some atheists are agnostic thus open to a thought that a god concept not currently in existence may one day be shown
and none agnostic atheists like myself who feel there is enough data to illustrate a creator cannot exist and cannot ever be shown to exist
I have very little doubt a more advanced alien exists within the cosmos but not a creator/god |
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"QUOTE atheists have one thing in common , none of the human invented god concepts are convincing enough to take a stance of belief UNQUOTE
This is agnosticism according to me.
A without
theism belief in any current god concept
that's it
as you say some atheists are agnostic thus open to a thought that a god concept not currently in existence may one day be shown
and none agnostic atheists like myself who feel there is enough data to illustrate a creator cannot exist and cannot ever be shown to exist
I have very little doubt a more advanced alien exists within the cosmos but not a creator/god "
You cannot be an agnostic atheist.
You are one or the other. |
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"QUOTE atheists have one thing in common , none of the human invented god concepts are convincing enough to take a stance of belief UNQUOTE
This is agnosticism according to me.
A without
theism belief in any current god concept
that's it
as you say some atheists are agnostic thus open to a thought that a god concept not currently in existence may one day be shown
and none agnostic atheists like myself who feel there is enough data to illustrate a creator cannot exist and cannot ever be shown to exist
I have very little doubt a more advanced alien exists within the cosmos but not a creator/god
You cannot be an agnostic atheist.
You are one or the other. "
and that is written where ?
an atheist has no belief in any god concept
an agnostic has no belief in any god concept
an agnostic is an atheist who is more open minded that a concept may exist
it is popularised that atheists are hard non believers and agnostics are fence sitters but the truth of the defined semantics is as above
an agnostic is a branch of atheism |
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"QUOTE atheists have one thing in common , none of the human invented god concepts are convincing enough to take a stance of belief UNQUOTE
This is agnosticism according to me.
A without
theism belief in any current god concept
that's it
as you say some atheists are agnostic thus open to a thought that a god concept not currently in existence may one day be shown
and none agnostic atheists like myself who feel there is enough data to illustrate a creator cannot exist and cannot ever be shown to exist
I have very little doubt a more advanced alien exists within the cosmos but not a creator/god
You cannot be an agnostic atheist.
You are one or the other. "
It's a common term, but probably more useful to call them soft atheists.
An agnostic or soft atheist is someone who doesn't definitely assert there is no God, but says the evidence is not sufficient to warrant belief in a God.
An hard atheist would be someone who definitely asserts there is no God.
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"A bit surprised at the great man's funeral yesterday he was well know for his atheist believes not sure he would be comfortable with Eddie Redmayne's bible readings and the church service '"
great, great man! |
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"QUOTE atheists have one thing in common , none of the human invented god concepts are convincing enough to take a stance of belief UNQUOTE
This is agnosticism according to me.
A without
theism belief in any current god concept
that's it
as you say some atheists are agnostic thus open to a thought that a god concept not currently in existence may one day be shown
and none agnostic atheists like myself who feel there is enough data to illustrate a creator cannot exist and cannot ever be shown to exist
I have very little doubt a more advanced alien exists within the cosmos but not a creator/god
You cannot be an agnostic atheist.
You are one or the other.
It's a common term, but probably more useful to call them soft atheists.
An agnostic or soft atheist is someone who doesn't definitely assert there is no God, but says the evidence is not sufficient to warrant belief in a God.
An hard atheist would be someone who definitely asserts there is no God.
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An agnostic is not a 'soft atheist'.
An atheist does not believe.
An agnostic is willing to believe in the face of evidence.
Atheist = No.
Agnostic = Maybe.
Believer - agnostic - atheist.
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"QUOTE atheists have one thing in common , none of the human invented god concepts are convincing enough to take a stance of belief UNQUOTE
This is agnosticism according to me.
A without
theism belief in any current god concept
that's it
as you say some atheists are agnostic thus open to a thought that a god concept not currently in existence may one day be shown
and none agnostic atheists like myself who feel there is enough data to illustrate a creator cannot exist and cannot ever be shown to exist
I have very little doubt a more advanced alien exists within the cosmos but not a creator/god
You cannot be an agnostic atheist.
You are one or the other.
It's a common term, but probably more useful to call them soft atheists.
An agnostic or soft atheist is someone who doesn't definitely assert there is no God, but says the evidence is not sufficient to warrant belief in a God.
An hard atheist would be someone who definitely asserts there is no God.
An agnostic is not a 'soft atheist'.
An atheist does not believe.
An agnostic is willing to believe in the face of evidence.
Atheist = No.
Agnostic = Maybe.
Believer - agnostic - atheist.
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I don't believe and call myself an atheist, but if a voice suddenly spoke from the sky asserting it was God and everyone else witnessed it, so I knew it wasn't an illusion, that for me would be compelling evidence and I would then believe.
I don't think there is any atheist who would not believe in the face of such compelling evidence, so does make us all really agnostics?
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"An atheist wouldn't care what was done or said after they were dead but would want whatever comforts their family most.
Nope, as an atheist I'd like my family to still respect my wishes."
Indeed. I think it shows a huge amount of disrespect for the deceased to impose your beliefs on them when they are gone. |
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"An atheist wouldn't care what was done or said after they were dead but would want whatever comforts their family most.
Nope, as an atheist I'd like my family to still respect my wishes.
Indeed. I think it shows a huge amount of disrespect for the deceased to impose your beliefs on them when they are gone. "
Absolutely. I've made it clear I want no funeral, just a quick cremation with nobody there. I've said they're quite welcome to have a party once it's all done, that's the only thing that is up to them. |
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"QUOTE atheists have one thing in common , none of the human invented god concepts are convincing enough to take a stance of belief UNQUOTE
This is agnosticism according to me.
A without
theism belief in any current god concept
that's it
as you say some atheists are agnostic thus open to a thought that a god concept not currently in existence may one day be shown
and none agnostic atheists like myself who feel there is enough data to illustrate a creator cannot exist and cannot ever be shown to exist
I have very little doubt a more advanced alien exists within the cosmos but not a creator/god
You cannot be an agnostic atheist.
You are one or the other.
It's a common term, but probably more useful to call them soft atheists.
An agnostic or soft atheist is someone who doesn't definitely assert there is no God, but says the evidence is not sufficient to warrant belief in a God.
An hard atheist would be someone who definitely asserts there is no God.
An agnostic is not a 'soft atheist'.
An atheist does not believe.
An agnostic is willing to believe in the face of evidence.
Atheist = No.
Agnostic = Maybe.
Believer - agnostic - atheist.
I don't believe and call myself an atheist, but if a voice suddenly spoke from the sky asserting it was God and everyone else witnessed it, so I knew it wasn't an illusion, that for me would be compelling evidence and I would then believe.
I don't think there is any atheist who would not believe in the face of such compelling evidence, so does make us all really agnostics?
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No. I'm an atheist. I don't believe. However , if indisputable evidence came forward i'd be a believer. I'm an atheist and don't believe there will ever be proof. |
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"An atheist wouldn't care what was done or said after they were dead but would want whatever comforts their family most.
Nope, as an atheist I'd like my family to still respect my wishes.
Indeed. I think it shows a huge amount of disrespect for the deceased to impose your beliefs on them when they are gone.
Absolutely. I've made it clear I want no funeral, just a quick cremation with nobody there. I've said they're quite welcome to have a party once it's all done, that's the only thing that is up to them."
As the people likely to be responsible are my kids who were brought up as and remain firm atheists, I am confident there will be none of this religious stuff when I kick the bucket.... |
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None of us know what this man wanted for his funeral and what arrangements he had made with his wife. As I don’ know them I certainly wouldn’t want to assume her to have gone against his wishes. I’ve also heard somewhere that he did attend church with her from time to time.
Mrs |
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"A bit surprised at the great man's funeral yesterday he was well know for his atheist believes not sure he would be comfortable with Eddie Redmayne's bible readings and the church service '"
The particular Bible reading was all about time, which seems relevant |
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"An atheist wouldn't care what was done or said after they were dead but would want whatever comforts their family most."
I've heard atheists say that... "you do what your by to do for your benefit, I don't care i'll be dead" |
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"QUOTE atheists have one thing in common , none of the human invented god concepts are convincing enough to take a stance of belief UNQUOTE
This is agnosticism according to me.
A without
theism belief in any current god concept
that's it
as you say some atheists are agnostic thus open to a thought that a god concept not currently in existence may one day be shown
and none agnostic atheists like myself who feel there is enough data to illustrate a creator cannot exist and cannot ever be shown to exist
I have very little doubt a more advanced alien exists within the cosmos but not a creator/god
You cannot be an agnostic atheist.
You are one or the other.
It's a common term, but probably more useful to call them soft atheists.
An agnostic or soft atheist is someone who doesn't definitely assert there is no God, but says the evidence is not sufficient to warrant belief in a God.
An hard atheist would be someone who definitely asserts there is no God.
An agnostic is not a 'soft atheist'.
An atheist does not believe.
An agnostic is willing to believe in the face of evidence.
Atheist = No.
Agnostic = Maybe.
Believer - agnostic - atheist.
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simplistic and wrong |
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"My family love a good sing song at a funeral, so there will be hymns. "
My mum was a Buddhist but quite enjoyed going to Christian church services because she loved to sing the hymns  |
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"QUOTE atheists have one thing in common , none of the human invented god concepts are convincing enough to take a stance of belief UNQUOTE
This is agnosticism according to me.
A without
theism belief in any current god concept
that's it
as you say some atheists are agnostic thus open to a thought that a god concept not currently in existence may one day be shown
and none agnostic atheists like myself who feel there is enough data to illustrate a creator cannot exist and cannot ever be shown to exist
I have very little doubt a more advanced alien exists within the cosmos but not a creator/god
You cannot be an agnostic atheist.
You are one or the other.
It's a common term, but probably more useful to call them soft atheists.
An agnostic or soft atheist is someone who doesn't definitely assert there is no God, but says the evidence is not sufficient to warrant belief in a God.
An hard atheist would be someone who definitely asserts there is no God.
An agnostic is not a 'soft atheist'.
An atheist does not believe.
An agnostic is willing to believe in the face of evidence.
Atheist = No.
Agnostic = Maybe.
Believer - agnostic - atheist.
simplistic and wrong "
Supporting evidence ? |
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