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"Why don’t cyclists use cycle paths ? The fact they don’t holds up the traffic. Two today were next to a cycle path and weren’t using it. " Because dog owners can't control their dogs. | |||
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"Why don’t cyclists use cycle paths ? The fact they don’t holds up the traffic. Two today were next to a cycle path and weren’t using it. " Mainly because the cycle paths at the side of the roads are full of pot holes broken glass and other debris pushed off the road. How long did they hold you up 30 seconds? Next time I’m on my motorbike and Your in my way I might say the same about you | |||
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"Depends on the path. Many are not fit for purpose. Shared ones are fucking horrendous for anyone not pooling along at walking pace. And the ones that are nothing g mire than a white line at the side of the road often involve multiple hazards. " Yup, yup and yup. Plus cyclists are legally entitled to ride on the road. So why shouldn't they? I will add I generally hate cyclists (I work in Cambridge FFS), but am willing to acknowledge the above points. Just if everyone that use the roads did so following the rules and showing a tiny bit of consideration (truck, car, bike, cyclist, pedestrian whatever). It would probably be a lot less painful for everyone... | |||
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"Depends on the path. Many are not fit for purpose. Shared ones are fucking horrendous for anyone not pooling along at walking pace. And the ones that are nothing g mire than a white line at the side of the road often involve multiple hazards. Yup, yup and yup. Plus cyclists are legally entitled to ride on the road. So why shouldn't they? I will add I generally hate cyclists (I work in Cambridge FFS), but am willing to acknowledge the above points. Just if everyone that use the roads did so following the rules and showing a tiny bit of consideration (truck, car, bike, cyclist, pedestrian whatever). It would probably be a lot less painful for everyone... " | |||
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" Just if everyone that use the roads did so following the rules and showing a tiny bit of consideration (truck, car, bike, cyclist, pedestrian whatever). It would probably be a lot less painful for everyone... " Some people are dicks. The mode of transport rarely changes or influences that | |||
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"Cyclists are angry little creatures who think they own the road, don't follow the rules of the road and get very nasty if you put them in their place.. and that was my experience in few words " I suspect that the responses on this thread will show that motorists get far nastier a d far angrier than cyclists. Well that's usually the case when a thread like this appears on here | |||
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"Somebody explain me why don't cyclists stop at traffic lights? " They do. Or at leat the vast majority do. Do you want to explain why motorists speed, drink/drug drive, use mobiles while driving? The answer is of course most don't but generalisations work both ways | |||
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"Somebody explain me why don't cyclists stop at traffic lights? They do. Or at leat the vast majority do. Do you want to explain why motorists speed, drink/drug drive, use mobiles while driving? The answer is of course most don't but generalisations work both ways" But this thread is about cyclists! Typical cyclist defence is to try and shift the blame. If you want to see some of the worst road users in relation to vulnerability, cyclists are it! As for the jumping of lights? Lots do it and the ones that don't are either the older ones or the ones that shoot up the pathway and cross in the pedestrian area! Come to our town and take a look! (From a pissed off cyclist who is fed up with the majority giving the minority a bad name!) | |||
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" Do you want to explain why motorists speed, drink/drug drive, use mobiles while driving? The answer is of course most don't but generalisations work both ways But this thread is about cyclists! Typical cyclist defence is to try and shift the blame. If you want to see some of the worst road users in relation to vulnerability, cyclists are it! " I don't think anyone was shifting blame there. Simply pointing out that no one group of road users are particularly good or bad, but that there are arseholes everywhere. Come to my town and I'll point at the boy racers speeding up and down the roads. I think motorists generally don't like cyclists because they slow them down, even if the cyclists are abiding to the letter of the law. I know the guys out at the weekend on the country roads round here annoy me, but have to admit they (on the whole) don't do a thing wrong! ;-) | |||
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"The best bit about lycramen Is that a huge amount of their lonely wifes are getting some naughty fun whilst that are getting there arse ripped to pieces and getting too tired for a nighttime cuddle!!" Hey! you leave the lycra men alone | |||
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" Do you want to explain why motorists speed, drink/drug drive, use mobiles while driving? The answer is of course most don't but generalisations work both ways But this thread is about cyclists! Typical cyclist defence is to try and shift the blame. If you want to see some of the worst road users in relation to vulnerability, cyclists are it! I don't think anyone was shifting blame there. Simply pointing out that no one group of road users are particularly good or bad, but that there are arseholes everywhere. Come to my town and I'll point at the boy racers speeding up and down the roads. I think motorists generally don't like cyclists because they slow them down, even if the cyclists are abiding to the letter of the law. I know the guys out at the weekend on the country roads round here annoy me, but have to admit they (on the whole) don't do a thing wrong! ;-)" Exactly. I would have thought that it was obvious I was making reference to the sweeping generalisation in tbe question I responded to. I've been cycling all my life amd I don't know why some cyclists jump lights. And I'm pretty sure that most motorists can't explain why some other motorists are such dicks nor would anyone ever expect them to be able too | |||
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"The best bit about lycramen Is that a huge amount of their lonely wifes are getting some naughty fun whilst that are getting there arse ripped to pieces and getting too tired for a nighttime cuddle!!" More likey to just be at home with the kids i expect. | |||
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"I had my wing mirror clattered by a twat in lycra... when i beeped my horn to let him know he had done it he stopped, wheeled the cars length he had travelled back and spat on my windscreen, called me a cunt and rode off. Nice chap. The sooner they bring in the need for registration and insuring bikes the better." Did he know you? | |||
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"Cyclists are angry little creatures who think they own the road, don't follow the rules of the road and get very nasty if you put them in their place.. and that was my experience in few words I suspect that the responses on this thread will show that motorists get far nastier a d far angrier than cyclists. Well that's usually the case when a thread like this appears on here" Or it could simply mean there aren't to many cyclists on here. | |||
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"Why don’t cyclists use cycle paths ? The fact they don’t holds up the traffic. Two today were next to a cycle path and weren’t using it. Mainly because the cycle paths at the side of the roads are full of pot holes broken glass and other debris pushed off the road. How long did they hold you up 30 seconds? Next time I’m on my motorbike and Your in my way I might say the same about you" | |||
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"I had my wing mirror clattered by a twat in lycra... when i beeped my horn to let him know he had done it he stopped, wheeled the cars length he had travelled back and spat on my windscreen, called me a cunt and rode off. Nice chap. The sooner they bring in the need for registration and insuring bikes the better." Well that is out of order but I’m not sure how insurance and registration will work, where would he put the number plate. Also if it was a car driver what would have been the difference | |||
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"I had my wing mirror clattered by a twat in lycra... when i beeped my horn to let him know he had done it he stopped, wheeled the cars length he had travelled back and spat on my windscreen, called me a cunt and rode off. Nice chap. The sooner they bring in the need for registration and insuring bikes the better. Did he know you? " There was a lovely green tarmac cycle track 3 metres to the left of the road that Slough Borough Council had at great expence provided for cyclists but no he decided he would ride along the white lines in the centre of the road. I was stationary, he knocked the drivers side mirror pedalling past the traffic. Slough has cycle routes on all the main roads and cctv covering busy areas. You can guarantee if i drove in a cycle lane id get a ticket but he can ride up the middle of the road? Im not the violent type but if i could have got hold of him id have given him a right wedgey in his stoopid lycra shorts! | |||
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"I jump red lights on my bike, I've done it all my life, it's pretty easy, you just gotta have your wits about you when doing it. Why do I do it? Coz I can " Last group of cyclists I seen going through a red light had to stop when their lead cyclists decided to kiss the front of a van. Cyclists don't like stopping at traffic lights and roundabouts simply because they can't be arsed taking their shoes out of their cleats. | |||
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"Why don’t cyclists use cycle paths ? The fact they don’t holds up the traffic. Two today were next to a cycle path and weren’t using it. " Cyclist don't have to use the cycle paths, its their choice. I prefer the roads as cycle paths are often shared with pedestrians; I average @ 20mph and don't want to contend with on-coming cyclists sharing a narrow strip of pavement, runners using both the cycle path side and the pedestrian side of the pavement and of course pedestrains. Someone asked why don't cyclist stop at tragic lights? Most of us do. I could ask, why when I'm coming through a 30 area at 28mph , do car drivers have to over take? And why do car drivers feel the need to over take cyclists on bends with on comming traffic? Basically there's good and bad cyclists and drivers, the roads are for everyone, just show respect for others and the rules. | |||
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"I had my wing mirror clattered by a twat in lycra... when i beeped my horn to let him know he had done it he stopped, wheeled the cars length he had travelled back and spat on my windscreen, called me a cunt and rode off. Nice chap. The sooner they bring in the need for registration and insuring bikes the better. Did he know you? There was a lovely green tarmac cycle track 3 metres to the left of the road that Slough Borough Council had at great expence provided for cyclists but no he decided he would ride along the white lines in the centre of the road. I was stationary, he knocked the drivers side mirror pedalling past the traffic. Slough has cycle routes on all the main roads and cctv covering busy areas. You can guarantee if i drove in a cycle lane id get a ticket but he can ride up the middle of the road? Im not the violent type but if i could have got hold of him id have given him a right wedgey in his stoopid lycra shorts! " I don’t know slough but in Manchester the cycle lanes are a death trap the rest of the roads are just as bad. He is allowed to ride down the road regardless of whether there is another route available to him, no one tells you which way to go home. But that being said twatting your wing mirror then spitting on your car is a cunts trick | |||
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"I think cyclists are very brave, or mad to cycle around London. Although we don't get many in my part of London, they are usually in the cycle lanes. " True that! I gave up road riding 2 years ago when drivers started seeing cyclists as "sport". | |||
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"I jump red lights on my bike, I've done it all my life, it's pretty easy, you just gotta have your wits about you when doing it. Why do I do it? Coz I can " And. Because I get to work faster than the rows of people stuck in their cars. Yes, it's potentially hazardous, but I'm unlikely to do more damage to the occupant of a 2 ton steel box than they are to me | |||
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"I jump red lights on my bike, I've done it all my life, it's pretty easy, you just gotta have your wits about you when doing it. Why do I do it? Coz I can And. Because I get to work faster than the rows of people stuck in their cars. Yes, it's potentially hazardous, but I'm unlikely to do more damage to the occupant of a 2 ton steel box than they are to me" What about the pedestrians? | |||
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"I jump red lights on my bike, I've done it all my life, it's pretty easy, you just gotta have your wits about you when doing it. Why do I do it? Coz I can And. Because I get to work faster than the rows of people stuck in their cars. Yes, it's potentially hazardous, but I'm unlikely to do more damage to the occupant of a 2 ton steel box than they are to me What about the pedestrians?" I was hit by a bike on a pavement when I was a kid. The man didn't even stop to see if I was ok. Ironically, I was on my way back from my St John's ambulance first aid classes. | |||
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"Motorists are just pissed about it coz they can't, tough titty , your dry and out of the wind, you don't see me complaining " Of course they could get bikes too Dave. I doubt it's because they're so law-abiding and god-fearing to disobey a traffic signal. There's only really 2 reasons. Too lazy. And too chickenshit as a result of all the lazy motorists saying how dangerous it must be. | |||
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"I jump red lights on my bike, I've done it all my life, it's pretty easy, you just gotta have your wits about you when doing it. Why do I do it? Coz I can And. Because I get to work faster than the rows of people stuck in their cars. Yes, it's potentially hazardous, but I'm unlikely to do more damage to the occupant of a 2 ton steel box than they are to me What about the pedestrians? I was hit by a bike on a pavement when I was a kid. The man didn't even stop to see if I was ok. Ironically, I was on my way back from my St John's ambulance first aid classes. " Don't understand. Nobody is advocating cycling on the pavement. We're all saying use the road responsibly | |||
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"Same as drivers of Mercedes cars not signalling" Why would we signal? Im not warning any mamil im gonna side swipe then!! We evolved from trikes stick to the paths | |||
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"I jump red lights on my bike, I've done it all my life, it's pretty easy, you just gotta have your wits about you when doing it. Why do I do it? Coz I can Last group of cyclists I seen going through a red light had to stop when their lead cyclists decided to kiss the front of a van. Cyclists don't like stopping at traffic lights and roundabouts simply because they can't be arsed taking their shoes out of their cleats." . Wouldn't bother me I can brake balance for minutes quite easily, I've been riding a bike for ooooo 45 years now, seemed to have managed so far ok | |||
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"Motorists are just pissed about it coz they can't, tough titty , your dry and out of the wind, you don't see me complaining Of course they could get bikes too Dave. I doubt it's because they're so law-abiding and god-fearing to disobey a traffic signal. There's only really 2 reasons. Too lazy. And too chickenshit as a result of all the lazy motorists saying how dangerous it must be." . No you had it right first time, there just lazy feckers who don't like seeing cyclists razz past them while there stuck in endless hours of fucking traffic going nowhere and getting brain fucked in the process. | |||
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"Somebody explain me why don't cyclists stop at traffic lights? " Some of us do. We don't want to die under the wheels of a lorry or 4x4. | |||
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"I think cycle paths should be maintained more, such as being swept of road debris. It is annoying to see them not being used for the purpose they were laid." I agree with this. To cover the cost of maintenance all cyclists should have to take a test and then register for a licence. Once they have this they should get insurance and a certificate to say their bike is suitable and fit to be allowed to use the paths. All bikes (or bike helmets) should also be fitted with a distinguishing plate, similar to a car number plate so they can be identified in case of an accident or when they break the rules. Seems fair to me. | |||
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"I think cycle paths should be maintained more, such as being swept of road debris. It is annoying to see them not being used for the purpose they were laid. I agree with this. To cover the cost of maintenance all cyclists should have to take a test and then register for a licence. Once they have this they should get insurance and a certificate to say their bike is suitable and fit to be allowed to use the paths. All bikes (or bike helmets) should also be fitted with a distinguishing plate, similar to a car number plate so they can be identified in case of an accident or when they break the rules. Seems fair to me." Jeez! What's the insurance gonna be for my 8 year old?! | |||
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"I think cycle paths should be maintained more, such as being swept of road debris. It is annoying to see them not being used for the purpose they were laid. I agree with this. To cover the cost of maintenance all cyclists should have to take a test and then register for a licence. Once they have this they should get insurance and a certificate to say their bike is suitable and fit to be allowed to use the paths. All bikes (or bike helmets) should also be fitted with a distinguishing plate, similar to a car number plate so they can be identified in case of an accident or when they break the rules. Seems fair to me." What do we charge pedestrians for the upkeep of their pavements (that not all of them use all of the time) Do they also have to have insurance and a special plate inserted somewhere because they cause accidents too. | |||
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"I think cycle paths should be maintained more, such as being swept of road debris. It is annoying to see them not being used for the purpose they were laid. I agree with this. To cover the cost of maintenance all cyclists should have to take a test and then register for a licence. Once they have this they should get insurance and a certificate to say their bike is suitable and fit to be allowed to use the paths. All bikes (or bike helmets) should also be fitted with a distinguishing plate, similar to a car number plate so they can be identified in case of an accident or when they break the rules. Seems fair to me." You must really love sitting in traffic jams fella. Cos we do what you suggest no one will ride a bike. There must be hundreds of thousands of cyclists and they will all be in cars in front of you. Sounds like a fantastic idea, I don’t care I ride a motorbike | |||
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"Cyclists are generally only an issue for drivers who lack basic decency and driving skill. " Try being a pedestrian on the Bristol Footpath and Cycleway in Bristol, especially near the Bitton Railway! The whole of the trail is treated like the cyclists private training track! | |||
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"I had my wing mirror clattered by a twat in lycra... when i beeped my horn to let him know he had done it he stopped, wheeled the cars length he had travelled back and spat on my windscreen, called me a cunt and rode off. Nice chap. The sooner they bring in the need for registration and insuring bikes the better." You do know that you would have been entitled to stop him and demand his name, address and home insurance details right? Because under the home insurance policy you can claim off of any cyclist for damages they have caused. It's a little known fact, and if they aren't insured then you have the right to call the police for damage to personal property which in turn allows you to take them to small claims court for reimbursement. | |||
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"Depends on the path. Many are not fit for purpose. Shared ones are fucking horrendous for anyone not pooling along at walking pace. And the ones that are nothing g mire than a white line at the side of the road often involve multiple hazards. Yup, yup and yup. Plus cyclists are legally entitled to ride on the road. So why shouldn't they? I will add I generally hate cyclists (I work in Cambridge FFS), but am willing to acknowledge the above points. Just if everyone that use the roads did so following the rules and showing a tiny bit of consideration (truck, car, bike, cyclist, pedestrian whatever). It would probably be a lot less painful for everyone... " Don't be so bloody sensible! C | |||
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"I had my wing mirror clattered by a twat in lycra... when i beeped my horn to let him know he had done it he stopped, wheeled the cars length he had travelled back and spat on my windscreen, called me a cunt and rode off. Nice chap. The sooner they bring in the need for registration and insuring bikes the better. You do know that you would have been entitled to stop him and demand his name, address and home insurance details right? Because under the home insurance policy you can claim off of any cyclist for damages they have caused. It's a little known fact, and if they aren't insured then you have the right to call the police for damage to personal property which in turn allows you to take them to small claims court for reimbursement. " I think this information is a little dubious!! | |||
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"Depends on the path. Many are not fit for purpose. Shared ones are fucking horrendous for anyone not pooling along at walking pace. And the ones that are nothing g mire than a white line at the side of the road often involve multiple hazards. Yup, yup and yup. Plus cyclists are legally entitled to ride on the road. So why shouldn't they? I will add I generally hate cyclists (I work in Cambridge FFS), but am willing to acknowledge the above points. Just if everyone that use the roads did so following the rules and showing a tiny bit of consideration (truck, car, bike, cyclist, pedestrian whatever). It would probably be a lot less painful for everyone... " I hate being a pedestrian on Cambridge because of the cyclists. The amount of times I've almost been hit by one sailing through a red light when I'm crossing the road! | |||
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"I jump red lights on my bike, I've done it all my life, it's pretty easy, you just gotta have your wits about you when doing it. Why do I do it? Coz I can " Thanks, it's people like you that scare the s*it out of me when it is my right of way crossing a road. | |||
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"I jump red lights on my bike, I've done it all my life, it's pretty easy, you just gotta have your wits about you when doing it. Why do I do it? Coz I can Thanks, it's people like you that scare the s*it out of me when it is my right of way crossing a road." . Don't panic, keep a straight line and a steady speed and I'll make sure we never crash | |||
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"There is so much misunderstanding in this thread. The tax a vehicle pays is based on emissions. This is because as a country we have to pay a world organisation based on pollution we create. So the more we pollute, the more we pay. So vehicle tax is the owner paying for the pollution they create towards the bill the country has to pay. Hence why some vehicles are tax exempt as they have zero emissions. And the more emissions the higher the tax. So road repairs are paid by your local council" . Ooh yes. Which organisation do we fork out out to then? | |||
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"Cyclists are angry little creatures who think they own the road, don't follow the rules of the road and get very nasty if you put them in their place.. and that was my experience in few words " Weirdly enough I find that with an awful lot of drivers whether I'm cycling or driving. | |||
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"I think cycle paths should be maintained more, such as being swept of road debris. It is annoying to see them not being used for the purpose they were laid. I agree with this. To cover the cost of maintenance all cyclists should have to take a test and then register for a licence. Once they have this they should get insurance and a certificate to say their bike is suitable and fit to be allowed to use the paths. All bikes (or bike helmets) should also be fitted with a distinguishing plate, similar to a car number plate so they can be identified in case of an accident or when they break the rules. Seems fair to me." Let's do the same for pedestrians too. | |||
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"Motorists are just pissed about it coz they can't, tough titty , your dry and out of the wind, you don't see me complaining Of course they could get bikes too Dave. I doubt it's because they're so law-abiding and god-fearing to disobey a traffic signal. There's only really 2 reasons. Too lazy. And too chickenshit as a result of all the lazy motorists saying how dangerous it must be.. No you had it right first time, there just lazy feckers who don't like seeing cyclists razz past them while there stuck in endless hours of fucking traffic going nowhere and getting brain fucked in the process. " This. Don't make me post that fox and the sour grapes story again. | |||
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"Tempted to drive down them. They usually have less potholes than the road " | |||
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"I jump red lights on my bike, I've done it all my life, it's pretty easy, you just gotta have your wits about you when doing it. Why do I do it? Coz I can Thanks, it's people like you that scare the s*it out of me when it is my right of way crossing a road.. Don't panic, keep a straight line and a steady speed and I'll make sure we never crash" Actually, when the cyclists come flying through the red light right where you are, you have no choice but to stop. Arrogant idiot! | |||
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"Tempted to drive down them. They usually have less potholes than the road " ...at the average speed of city traffic no doubt! | |||
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"I jump red lights on my bike, I've done it all my life, it's pretty easy, you just gotta have your wits about you when doing it. Why do I do it? Coz I can Thanks, it's people like you that scare the s*it out of me when it is my right of way crossing a road.. Don't panic, keep a straight line and a steady speed and I'll make sure we never crash Actually, when the cyclists come flying through the red light right where you are, you have no choice but to stop. Arrogant idiot!" . I've never made a car stop in my life, if there's a gap I can get through without causing problems, I get through it. It's not rocket science | |||
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"They're an option, not mandated - the cyclists may know their route well, such as needing to soon bear right, which may be more dangerous if emerging from a more isolated left position. They may also be car drivers and know the general lanes better." Read my comments above about road signs! | |||
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"Tagging this thread to use the block feature later on. If you are interested in getting to your destination as quick as you can with no care and regard for the other 'road user' ..... perhaps you are not what I am looking for in a fuck! " Oh no! I was definitely up for a trip to Staffford! | |||
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"Tagging this thread to use the block feature later on. If you are interested in getting to your destination as quick as you can with no care and regard for the other 'road user' ..... perhaps you are not what I am looking for in a fuck! Oh no! I was definitely up for a trip to Staffford! " . On yer bike..... And remember to stop at all the lights | |||
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"Tagging this thread to use the block feature later on. If you are interested in getting to your destination as quick as you can with no care and regard for the other 'road user' ..... perhaps you are not what I am looking for in a fuck! " I can imagine but looking at profile I think you’d like to borrow his bike lock!! | |||
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"Tagging this thread to use the block feature later on. If you are interested in getting to your destination as quick as you can with no care and regard for the other 'road user' ..... perhaps you are not what I am looking for in a fuck! I can imagine but looking at profile I think you’d like to borrow his bike lock!!" I let other men park their bike in my garage.... just not my husband! | |||
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"I still think cyclists should have a minimum of 3rd party insurance as they are riding on the road, but dont know how it would be implemented. I also thought it was law to have lights on the bike at night. Scarey when a cyclist jumps off the pavement at night when its dark with no lights" Again, you're confusing cyclists with "cunts who happen to be on bicycles". The same distinction can be used for people who drive cars. | |||
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"Why don’t cyclists use cycle paths ? The fact they don’t holds up the traffic. Two today were next to a cycle path and weren’t using it. " In the same way as why do some people drive like selfish w*nkers. There are good and bad on the road. Unfortunately, it's getting awful out there | |||
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"Tagging this thread to use the block feature later on. If you are interested in getting to your destination as quick as you can with no care and regard for the other 'road user' ..... perhaps you are not what I am looking for in a fuck! Oh no! I was definitely up for a trip to Staffford! " I wasnt as clear as I could have been, but was defending cyclists! | |||
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"The reason we need so much health and safety is because most people just breeze through they're day in a complete brain dead haze, add to that they most people are crap at driving or riding a bike and voila, we need more and more checks and balances to keep the sheeple safe from their own folly. All day every day you'll see people step off pavements without looking, mother's push prams out around blind corners, toddlers being walked on the road side of the pavement, drivers in a cotton wool ball, people who just can't cycle giving it a go on the busiest of roads. We're just not "switched on" any more when doing things that have an element of danger to them. No laws were broken, no cunts, no idiots, just unswitched on people meandering through life in a haze. " everyone? Don't tell me you're not one of those idiots? | |||
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"Tagging this thread to use the block feature later on. If you are interested in getting to your destination as quick as you can with no care and regard for the other 'road user' ..... perhaps you are not what I am looking for in a fuck! Oh no! I was definitely up for a trip to Staffford! I wasnt as clear as I could have been, but was defending cyclists! " I got it | |||
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"Tagging this thread to use the block feature later on. If you are interested in getting to your destination as quick as you can with no care and regard for the other 'road user' ..... perhaps you are not what I am looking for in a fuck! Oh no! I was definitely up for a trip to Staffford! I wasnt as clear as I could have been, but was defending cyclists! I got it " Thanks Evie! Secret work fabbing in small offices means brevity of messages! | |||
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"Somebody explain me why don't cyclists stop at traffic lights? " I'll see your traffic lights question and raise you... Somebody explain me why car drivers break the speed limit and park dangerously outside schools. | |||
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"The reason we need so much health and safety is because most people just breeze through they're day in a complete brain dead haze, add to that they most people are crap at driving or riding a bike and voila, we need more and more checks and balances to keep the sheeple safe from their own folly. All day every day you'll see people step off pavements without looking, mother's push prams out around blind corners, toddlers being walked on the road side of the pavement, drivers in a cotton wool ball, people who just can't cycle giving it a go on the busiest of roads. We're just not "switched on" any more when doing things that have an element of danger to them. No laws were broken, no cunts, no idiots, just unswitched on people meandering through life in a haze. everyone? Don't tell me you're not one of those idiots? " . EVERYONE? You'll never make a proof reader will you. | |||
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"Tagging this thread to use the block feature later on. If you are interested in getting to your destination as quick as you can with no care and regard for the other 'road user' ..... perhaps you are not what I am looking for in a fuck! Oh no! I was definitely up for a trip to Staffford! I wasnt as clear as I could have been, but was defending cyclists! " It didn't matter. My pet forum hate is "this thread is such a good filter" like we'd have planned to meet anyway! . You catch my drift. | |||
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"Somebody explain me why don't cyclists stop at traffic lights? I'll see your traffic lights question and raise you... Somebody explain me why car drivers break the speed limit and park dangerously outside schools." Or park in cycle lanes and then throw their rubbish in cycle lanes?? About the lights - I get you, we will hold on until green but please dont moan that we didnt go when it was safe to do so and your are now held up waiting for us to get up to speed and get past the junction and other cars! Cycled all over the world - only had problems in the UK. | |||
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"I still think cyclists should have a minimum of 3rd party insurance as they are riding on the road, but dont know how it would be implemented. I also thought it was law to have lights on the bike at night. Scarey when a cyclist jumps off the pavement at night when its dark with no lights" Most cyclists do have third party insurance, either as part of their home policy, or a cycle specific policy. If you have membership of a cycling club or a British Cycling member you get £5million third party libiltity. It’s worth getting for the legal cover to help sue the driver that runs into you whilst putting their lipstick on or trying to control the car load of kids. I’d be all for making it (insurance) compulsory, once it had been proven to me that their wasn’t a single uninsured motor vehicle or MOT failiure death trap on the road. Yes, cyclists should have lights when riding on the road at night but you still have an obligation not to drive into them. Lumping everyone who rides a bike in the same category is as unhelpful as lumping in everyone who has ever driven a car. I need to be compared to a 15 year old kid dropping off drugs on a stolen mountain bike just as little as you need to to be compared to a bunch of delinquents doing donuts in McDonald’s car park. | |||
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"I feel it's time for a bit of Billy ocean. Red light, spells danger " | |||
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"I still think cyclists should have a minimum of 3rd party insurance as they are riding on the road, but dont know how it would be implemented. I also thought it was law to have lights on the bike at night. Scarey when a cyclist jumps off the pavement at night when its dark with no lights Most cyclists do have third party insurance, either as part of their home policy, or a cycle specific policy. If you have membership of a cycling club or a British Cycling member you get £5million third party libiltity. It’s worth getting for the legal cover to help sue the driver that runs into you whilst putting their lipstick on or trying to control the car load of kids. I’d be all for making it (insurance) compulsory, once it had been proven to me that their wasn’t a single uninsured motor vehicle or MOT failiure death trap on the road. Yes, cyclists should have lights when riding on the road at night but you still have an obligation not to drive into them. Lumping everyone who rides a bike in the same category is as unhelpful as lumping in everyone who has ever driven a car. I need to be compared to a 15 year old kid dropping off drugs on a stolen mountain bike just as little as you need to to be compared to a bunch of delinquents doing donuts in McDonald’s car park." This^^^ I dont judge all parent by the scummy mummys I see using a push chair without due care and attention while smoking and texting! I dont judge all drivers by the guy who nearly took me out last week in his 4ton lump of metal while texting at the wheel! I dont judge all walkers by the weekend wankers in the hills and mountains who obviously are city folk who seem to shout obscenities at you rather than move 1 foot when I say excuse me. Suppose it all about who you are! Judge people by your own standards is a pretty good saying! | |||
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"Can’t believe people going on about cyclists on Fab. But to answer the question, cycle paths are usually in a bad state, the debris ends up there, causing punctures, also you get cars pulling out of side roads etc" Why can't we talk about cyclists on fab? | |||
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"Why don’t cyclists use cycle paths ? The fact they don’t holds up the traffic. Two today were next to a cycle path and weren’t using it. " it's probably because they are self entitled gomeys pssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhh | |||
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"Somebody explain me why don't cyclists stop at traffic lights? " You missed out the word "some" Just like "some" drivers drive like dicks. | |||
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"Somebody explain me why don't cyclists stop at traffic lights? You missed out the word "some" Just like "some" drivers drive like dicks. " Well said | |||
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"The ones in Brighton usually have numpties walking in them listening to their headphones, I got fed up straightening my handlebars after hitting them at about 25mph. The ones in Merseyside have broken glass in them, you get fed up with getting punctures. Cyclists are allowed to use the roads, just make sure you give the required 3 foot gap when you over take them." 3 foot? I was taught 6 foot!! I can hear my driving instructor now "three feet from parked cars, six feet from cyclists! As for you doing 25 MPH on a cycle/foot path where pedestrians are, especially very young children, you deserve to be knocked off! | |||
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"Can’t believe people going on about cyclists on Fab. But to answer the question, cycle paths are usually in a bad state, the debris ends up there, causing punctures, also you get cars pulling out of side roads etc Why can't we talk about cyclists on fab? " No reason, I’m cycling from lands end to John o groats in June, just didn’t expect cycling to be mentioned on a swingers site! | |||
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"The ones in Brighton usually have numpties walking in them listening to their headphones, I got fed up straightening my handlebars after hitting them at about 25mph. The ones in Merseyside have broken glass in them, you get fed up with getting punctures. Cyclists are allowed to use the roads, just make sure you give the required 3 foot gap when you over take them. 3 foot? I was taught 6 foot!! I can hear my driving instructor now "three feet from parked cars, six feet from cyclists! As for you doing 25 MPH on a cycle/foot path where pedestrians are, especially very young children, you deserve to be knocked off!" there isn't one | |||
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"Can’t believe people going on about cyclists on Fab. But to answer the question, cycle paths are usually in a bad state, the debris ends up there, causing punctures, also you get cars pulling out of side roads etc Why can't we talk about cyclists on fab? No reason, I’m cycling from lands end to John o groats in June, just didn’t expect cycling to be mentioned on a swingers site! " We chat about alsorts of shit on here lol there is more to us than sexy times | |||
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"The ones in Brighton usually have numpties walking in them listening to their headphones, I got fed up straightening my handlebars after hitting them at about 25mph. The ones in Merseyside have broken glass in them, you get fed up with getting punctures. Cyclists are allowed to use the roads, just make sure you give the required 3 foot gap when you over take them. 3 foot? I was taught 6 foot!! I can hear my driving instructor now "three feet from parked cars, six feet from cyclists! As for you doing 25 MPH on a cycle/foot path where pedestrians are, especially very young children, you deserve to be knocked off!" The good people in Brighton council deemed it perfectly safe to paint a line down the pavement, marking quite clearly the numpties area from the cycle path. Not my fault people don't notice the line, or aren't spatially aware of their surroundings. Luckily for them a cyclist bit them, not a car. | |||
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"West Midlands Police’s announcement last month that they would start prosecuting motorists for not giving people on bikes sufficient room was hailed by the charity Cycling UK as “the best road cyclist safety initiative ever.” West Midlands Police issues prosecution notices to 14 close-pass drivers It has led to calls for forces elsewhere to follow suit, with Metropolitan Police officers in the London Borough of Camden already saying that they will do so, including deploying plain clothes officers on bikes. What the Birmingham police force implemented recently." 1.5 metres minimum. Many drivers don't allow half this in my experience. | |||
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"West Midlands Police’s announcement last month that they would start prosecuting motorists for not giving people on bikes sufficient room was hailed by the charity Cycling UK as “the best road cyclist safety initiative ever.” West Midlands Police issues prosecution notices to 14 close-pass drivers It has led to calls for forces elsewhere to follow suit, with Metropolitan Police officers in the London Borough of Camden already saying that they will do so, including deploying plain clothes officers on bikes. What the Birmingham police force implemented recently." I'm under cover... | |||
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"West Midlands Police’s announcement last month that they would start prosecuting motorists for not giving people on bikes sufficient room was hailed by the charity Cycling UK as “the best road cyclist safety initiative ever.” West Midlands Police issues prosecution notices to 14 close-pass drivers It has led to calls for forces elsewhere to follow suit, with Metropolitan Police officers in the London Borough of Camden already saying that they will do so, including deploying plain clothes officers on bikes. What the Birmingham police force implemented recently." Coincidentally this was launched in Hertfordshire this week, the forst day saw a handfull of officers out for 3 hours and multiple arrests for close passes, using mobiles while driving and driving without a seatbelt. | |||
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"I jump red lights on my bike, I've done it all my life, it's pretty easy, you just gotta have your wits about you when doing it. Why do I do it? Coz I can " Ok, if what you're saying is in jest, then HaHa! If on the other hand, you're being serious, then it's the eejits like you who give cycling a bad name! | |||
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"Cyclists are angry little creatures who think they own the road, don't follow the rules of the road and get very nasty if you put them in their place.. and that was my experience in few words Weirdly enough I find that with an awful lot of drivers whether I'm cycling or driving. " So do I and loads of crappy curb hugging drivers | |||
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"Cyclist think they own the road They wind me up ..especially at traffic lights when they pull up right in front of me when I'm first away . Why not just stay over to the left so I , the car can pull away at normal speed instead of at mph because I have to follow you Use common sense cyclist ...or take the bus . " Same could said for yourself. Use common sense, let the cyclists go. Or get the bus. | |||
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"Cyclist think they own the road They wind me up ..especially at traffic lights when they pull up right in front of me when I'm first away . Why not just stay over to the left so I , the car can pull away at normal speed instead of at mph because I have to follow you Use common sense cyclist ...or take the bus . Same could said for yourself. Use common sense, let the cyclists go. Or get the bus." Knock them out of the way. There should be a weekly purge of the fookers | |||
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"Cyclist think they own the road They wind me up ..especially at traffic lights when they pull up right in front of me when I'm first away . Why not just stay over to the left so I , the car can pull away at normal speed instead of at mph because I have to follow you Use common sense cyclist ...or take the bus . Same could said for yourself. Use common sense, let the cyclists go. Or get the bus. Knock them out of the way. There should be a weekly purge of the fookers " What do you mean? | |||
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"Cyclist think they own the road They wind me up ..especially at traffic lights when they pull up right in front of me when I'm first away . Why not just stay over to the left so I , the car can pull away at normal speed instead of at mph because I have to follow you Use common sense cyclist ...or take the bus . Same could said for yourself. Use common sense, let the cyclists go. Or get the bus. Knock them out of the way. There should be a weekly purge of the fookers What do you mean? " I mean im not a fan of cyclists | |||
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"Cyclist think they own the road They wind me up ..especially at traffic lights when they pull up right in front of me when I'm first away . Why not just stay over to the left so I , the car can pull away at normal speed instead of at mph because I have to follow you Use common sense cyclist ...or take the bus . Same could said for yourself. Use common sense, let the cyclists go. Or get the bus. Knock them out of the way. There should be a weekly purge of the fookers What do you mean? I mean im not a fan of cyclists " Let's hope a driver out there does use the same thought process on a family member of yours....... | |||
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"Why can't we show tolerance for all road users, doesn't matter whether you have two wheels or four. A bit of respect and tolerance ensures everyone has a safe and peaceful journey. Lose control of your emotions in a situation then you shouldn't be in control of a car imho. " Exactly, you don't see cyclists getting all hot headed, frustrated, with the blood pressure boiling over as they're sitting in the traffic jams. | |||
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"Cyclist think they own the road They wind me up ..especially at traffic lights when they pull up right in front of me when I'm first away . Why not just stay over to the left so I , the car can pull away at normal speed instead of at mph because I have to follow you Use common sense cyclist ...or take the bus . " I used to love doing just this to idiot car drivers, after they passed close by. What I found pathetic was, the car driver wouldn't get close to me till 2nd or 3rd gear once they got away from the lights. | |||
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"Cyclist think they own the road They wind me up ..especially at traffic lights when they pull up right in front of me when I'm first away . Why not just stay over to the left so I , the car can pull away at normal speed instead of at mph because I have to follow you Use common sense cyclist ...or take the bus . I used to love doing just this to idiot car drivers, after they passed close by. What I found pathetic was, the car driver wouldn't get close to me till 2nd or 3rd gear once they got away from the lights." *sigh* (not an acronym) | |||
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"The ones in Brighton usually have numpties walking in them listening to their headphones, I got fed up straightening my handlebars after hitting them at about 25mph. The ones in Merseyside have broken glass in them, you get fed up with getting punctures. Cyclists are allowed to use the roads, just make sure you give the required 3 foot gap when you over take them. 3 foot? I was taught 6 foot!! I can hear my driving instructor now "three feet from parked cars, six feet from cyclists! As for you doing 25 MPH on a cycle/foot path where pedestrians are, especially very young children, you deserve to be knocked off!" The stretch along hove is better, I got 40 mph according to Strava. I was overtaking cars doing only 30, I hopped off the cycle path in time to set the speed camera off. | |||
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"Local Council spent thousands fir a dedicated cycle lane along a very long road near us. Do the cyclists use it? Like fuck do they. If a path is provided it should be compulsory for cyclists to use it. Had one smash into my car only last month. He was actually in the cycle lane and I was turning left. As I turned he just ploughed into the side if my car smashing the indicator. Had the fucking cheek to tell me I should give way, that was until I pointed out the STOP lines on the cycle lane. On a good note, his bike was totally fucked and he had to pay my repair bill!!" This is why cyclists don't use cycle paths. Stay on the road and you don't have to stop every time there's a side road. | |||
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"Local Council spent thousands fir a dedicated cycle lane along a very long road near us. Do the cyclists use it? Like fuck do they. If a path is provided it should be compulsory for cyclists to use it. Had one smash into my car only last month. He was actually in the cycle lane and I was turning left. As I turned he just ploughed into the side if my car smashing the indicator. Had the fucking cheek to tell me I should give way, that was until I pointed out the STOP lines on the cycle lane. On a good note, his bike was totally fucked and he had to pay my repair bill!! This is why cyclists don't use cycle paths. Stay on the road and you don't have to stop every time there's a side road. " No, you get idiots left hooking you the same though. | |||
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"Local Council spent thousands fir a dedicated cycle lane along a very long road near us. Do the cyclists use it? Like fuck do they. If a path is provided it should be compulsory for cyclists to use it. Had one smash into my car only last month. He was actually in the cycle lane and I was turning left. As I turned he just ploughed into the side if my car smashing the indicator. Had the fucking cheek to tell me I should give way, that was until I pointed out the STOP lines on the cycle lane. On a good note, his bike was totally fucked and he had to pay my repair bill!! This is why cyclists don't use cycle paths. Stay on the road and you don't have to stop every time there's a side road. No, you get idiots left hooking you the same though." Been there! | |||
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"I try to avoid roads even with cycle paths as much as I can. Motorists are too inconsiderate/reckless for a cyclist to feel safe on the road " Agreed | |||
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"Local Council spent thousands fir a dedicated cycle lane along a very long road near us. Do the cyclists use it? Like fuck do they. If a path is provided it should be compulsory for cyclists to use it. Had one smash into my car only last month. He was actually in the cycle lane and I was turning left. As I turned he just ploughed into the side if my car smashing the indicator. Had the fucking cheek to tell me I should give way, that was until I pointed out the STOP lines on the cycle lane. On a good note, his bike was totally fucked and he had to pay my repair bill!! This is why cyclists don't use cycle paths. Stay on the road and you don't have to stop every time there's a side road. No, you get idiots left hooking you the same though. Been there! " That usually carries 3 points, a fine and a compensation claim for the car driver | |||
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"Somebody explain me why don't cyclists stop at traffic lights? They do. Or at leat the vast majority do. Do you want to explain why motorists speed, drink/drug drive, use mobiles while driving? The answer is of course most don't but generalisations work both ways" | |||
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"There will never be peace on our roads until drivers and cyclists unite around a common cause. Let's all agree that we hate mobility scooters" Great idea ?? really tickled me | |||
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"Local Council spent thousands fir a dedicated cycle lane along a very long road near us. Do the cyclists use it? Like fuck do they. If a path is provided it should be compulsory for cyclists to use it. Had one smash into my car only last month. He was actually in the cycle lane and I was turning left. As I turned he just ploughed into the side if my car smashing the indicator. Had the fucking cheek to tell me I should give way, that was until I pointed out the STOP lines on the cycle lane. On a good note, his bike was totally fucked and he had to pay my repair bill!! This is why cyclists don't use cycle paths. Stay on the road and you don't have to stop every time there's a side road. No, you get idiots left hooking you the same though. Been there! That usually carries 3 points, a fine and a compensation claim for the car driver " Only if they stop. She didn't. | |||
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"Somebody explain me why don't cyclists stop at traffic lights? They do. Or at leat the vast majority do. Do you want to explain why motorists speed, drink/drug drive, use mobiles while driving? The answer is of course most don't but generalisations work both ways" The other day I saw a cyclist using his mobile phone whilst cycling on the pavement. He did stop and apologise to the women he hit though, so it was all ok and he didn't have to show his bike licence and registration documents!!! | |||
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"Somebody explain me why don't cyclists stop at traffic lights? They do. Or at leat the vast majority do. Do you want to explain why motorists speed, drink/drug drive, use mobiles while driving? The answer is of course most don't but generalisations work both ways The other day I saw a cyclist using his mobile phone whilst cycling on the pavement. He did stop and apologise to the women he hit though, so it was all ok and he didn't have to show his bike licence and registration documents!!! " Thank God he wasn't in his car at the time eh? | |||
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"Car tax isn’t about paying some random organisation for the emissions we put out!! It was our government who decided to start doing that to incentivise people to start driving cars with lower emissions because our cities especially have too much poisonous gases being expelled into them causing serious illness and ultimately death. Car tax was introduced for the upkeep of our roads but has been gradually siphoned off to pay for other public services. Along with by the looks of things paying for our blessed new smart motorways with ever decreasing hard shoulders on them which quite frankly I think is plain dangerous and lunacy in terms of safety especially for people who break down or accident situations.." Car tax, road fund tax call it what you will was abolished in 1938 by Winston Churchill . | |||
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"Yesterday I watched a car and a pushbike jump a red light, the same red light at the same time" Thursday fact .... | |||
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"I try to avoid roads even with cycle paths as much as I can. Motorists are too inconsiderate/reckless for a cyclist to feel safe on the road " I think this is exactly the attitude they (the motorists and the establishment supporting them) want you to take. Continuing to preach that cycling is dangerous and therefore reducing the number of bikes on the road suits their purpose. Actually an acknowledgment that the danger is that posed by the motor vehicle, rather than the bike per se, a combination of education and punishment of dangerous drivers and the increasing the number of bikes on the road by abolishing cycle lanes is what is required. Bikes must be allowed to use the road, and know that they can do so safely. Otherwise, as one poster above has said, they will end up being confined to shitty cycle paths. An increase, to a critical mass of cyclists would increase awareness and slowly moderate the behaviour of drivers, and ultimately make the road we have to share better for everyone. But for now, do not accept someone else telling you it’s too dangerous, they may have another agenda. | |||
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"Local Council spent thousands fir a dedicated cycle lane along a very long road near us. Do the cyclists use it? Like fuck do they. If a path is provided it should be compulsory for cyclists to use it. Had one smash into my car only last month. He was actually in the cycle lane and I was turning left. As I turned he just ploughed into the side if my car smashing the indicator. Had the fucking cheek to tell me I should give way, that was until I pointed out the STOP lines on the cycle lane. On a good note, his bike was totally fucked and he had to pay my repair bill!!" Interesting.. I assume the cycle path was on the left hand side of the carriageway. I also assume that anyone who drives with care and attention will check that there is nothing to the inside of them before turning left whether there’s a cycle lane or not. Combining these assumptions, I struggle to see how could you possibly have collided. | |||
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"Local Council spent thousands fir a dedicated cycle lane along a very long road near us. Do the cyclists use it? Like fuck do they. If a path is provided it should be compulsory for cyclists to use it. Had one smash into my car only last month. He was actually in the cycle lane and I was turning left. As I turned he just ploughed into the side if my car smashing the indicator. Had the fucking cheek to tell me I should give way, that was until I pointed out the STOP lines on the cycle lane. On a good note, his bike was totally fucked and he had to pay my repair bill!! Interesting.. I assume the cycle path was on the left hand side of the carriageway. I also assume that anyone who drives with care and attention will check that there is nothing to the inside of them before turning left whether there’s a cycle lane or not. Combining these assumptions, I struggle to see how could you possibly have collided. " I assumed he was talking about those cycle paths built onto existing pavement. | |||
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"Duel use pedestrian and cycle paths tend to be dangerous if you plan on cycling at any sort of speed. " Most cyclists on this would need protecting from ‘pedestrians’. By this I mean gangs of truanting kids, Rottweilers and teenage mums with earphones, tearway toddlers and a fag on the lip. | |||
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